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Steve Price | 12 June · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live. This is Steve Price. Good evening, working to the show.
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Speaker 1: Steve Price with you. Here's what's coming up on the
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Speaker 1: program tonight. Donald Trump dramatically pulls back from planned military
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Speaker 1: strikes and Iran and claims a deal has been approved.
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Speaker 1: While we'll wait and see, We'll get the latest on
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Speaker 1: what happens next in the Middle East with Professor Greg Barton.
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Speaker 1: One Nation has now raised over three million dollars from
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Speaker 1: public supporters in just forty eight hours. Extraordinary, and boy
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Speaker 1: aren't the critics coming out of the woodwork and the
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Speaker 1: major parties are panicking. One Nation's victorian MP Ricky Lee
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Speaker 1: Tyrrell live from a Melbourne fundraiser. Fundraiser starring haulin herself
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Speaker 1: two thousand dollars ahead to join that event tonight. And
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Speaker 1: unrest continues in Belfast following that horror attempted for heading
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Speaker 1: on a suburban street. Caleb was just talking about that,
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Speaker 1: plus the ongoing fallout following the murder of Henry Novak.
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Speaker 1: It's a powder keg in Britain at the moment, and
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Speaker 1: we'll cross to London for the latest. Plus my shock
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Speaker 1: of the week iconic barbecue retailer Barbecue's Galore goes under.
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Speaker 1: What does that say about the state of the Australian economy?
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Speaker 1: Warren Hogan from ERQ Economics coming up shortly, But first,
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Speaker 1: the One Nation Orange Tsunami rolls on tonight with a
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Speaker 1: fresh fundraiser in Melbourne's Mooney Ponds. Scheduled for tonight canceled
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Speaker 1: at the last moment and moved to a location which
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Speaker 1: we're not going to reveal to you, but it seems
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Speaker 1: the protesters have already found out where it is. It
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Speaker 1: seems safety fears for the reason that the function was moved.
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Speaker 1: A range of protesters out the front of the building.
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Speaker 1: Already full detail shortly. And meanwhile, next week One Nation
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Speaker 1: leader Pauline Hansen, as we know, we'll address the National
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Speaker 1: Press Club on Wednesday. It'll be covered here at Live
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Speaker 1: on Sky hosted by Tom Connell. Look, it was only
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Speaker 1: May last year at the federal election that the party
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Speaker 1: One Nation pulled just over six percent of the primary vote. Now,
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Speaker 1: depending on which pole you read, the party is ahead
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Speaker 1: of all the majors federally, including Labor. Hanson's popularity is
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Speaker 1: through the roof and they have, as I just said,
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Speaker 1: raised over three million dollars in forty eight hours. Who
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Speaker 1: could believe that off the back, of course of a
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Speaker 1: stolen slogan from Peter Kredlin fire the liar referencing the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi. And they're now even selling merchandise
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Speaker 1: with the same phrase, and boy, you know they are
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Speaker 1: having an impact on the traditional major parties. More than that,
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Speaker 1: the Labor Party and the Coalition, in my view, are
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Speaker 1: in a blind panic over this. Everywhere you turn, current
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Speaker 1: labor MPs, former treasurer's State labor MPs and the left
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Speaker 1: leaning media like the ABC will and have turned from
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Speaker 1: pretending One Nation's numbers will suddenly disappear around election time
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Speaker 1: because they know that's now not going to happen. Listened
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Speaker 1: to the Victorian Deputy Premier and he could be leader
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Speaker 1: of the Victorian government this time next week. Ben Carroll
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Speaker 1: teeing off at the Surging Party today.
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Speaker 2: The history of One Nation has shown they are polarizing,
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Speaker 2: deeply at times racist. Saying and not backtracking that there
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Speaker 2: are no good Muslims is an absolute disgrace, but we
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Speaker 2: have to call out One Nation. Pauline Hanson has voted
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Speaker 2: against every single measure to support workers. She is devising
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Speaker 2: a divisive populist approach where Victorians are smart, they want
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Speaker 2: good policy and they want a government that is in
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Speaker 2: the center looking at for them and spending their dollars Wisely.
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Speaker 1: Victorians are certainly smart. Ben, They're going to be smart
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Speaker 1: enough to throw your government out on the twenty eighth
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Speaker 1: of November this year. I mean, he's got his eyes
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Speaker 1: on the Victorian state election at the end of the
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Speaker 1: year and he could very well be Premier of this
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Speaker 1: state by the middle of next week. Now, out of
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Speaker 1: metropolitan suburbs and especially in the western suburbs of Melbourne,
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Speaker 1: long ignored by that Labor Party and treated as rusted
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Speaker 1: on supporters of the Andrews Allen government, no more. They're
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Speaker 1: walking in droves to One Nation and to reinforce the
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Speaker 1: panic at the top of the traditional parties. When the
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister was asked yesterday what he made of what
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Speaker 1: then was a two million dollar burst of cash support
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Speaker 1: for One Nation, he couldn't help himself questioning whether the
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Speaker 1: figure was real.
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Speaker 3: She smashed him in the fundraising race.
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Speaker 4: So she raised more than a million dollars.
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Speaker 5: Did she did?
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Speaker 4: She?
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Speaker 5: Did she?
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Speaker 1: What evidence is there? Well, as we now know, prem
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Speaker 1: she didn't raise two she raised three million. Look, I
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Speaker 1: know it hurts to be called a liar publicly. No
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Speaker 1: one likes that. And indeed your own speaker in the Parliament,
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Speaker 1: Milton Dick, has banned the use of the word liar
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Speaker 1: in question time in the House. But as Pauline Hanson
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Speaker 1: pointed out yesterday, does the Prime Minister actually think she
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Speaker 1: is a fool? Well he probably does privately when she
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Speaker 1: said this about the donations.
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Speaker 6: Why would I call out the liar by the wire
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Speaker 6: than go and do something like that myself.
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Speaker 1: It would destroy me. Is it legitimate? Very legitimate? No problems.
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Speaker 6: We've actually said we all get an independent auditor into
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Speaker 6: go through it, so everyone who donates so it gets
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Speaker 6: a receipt sent back to them.
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Speaker 1: So very legitimate. Well, as I said, we now know
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Speaker 1: it's much more than two million, and it's headed for
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Speaker 1: three million. I think it was three million and eighty
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Speaker 1: thousand the last time that we checked. The insults so
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Speaker 1: they kept coming. One of Australia's worst treasurers, God remember him,
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Speaker 1: Wayne Swan, Well, he couldn't help himself joining in.
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Speaker 7: Let me tell you, when it comes to big money
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Speaker 7: in this country, it's all going to one Nation, and
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Speaker 7: this whole debate is a smokescreen for the fact that
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Speaker 7: they are actually run by the top end of Dawn
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Speaker 7: and they deliver the policies for the top end of
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Speaker 7: her I don't know about made suppression for the rest.
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Speaker 1: Will you guys do exactly the same thing? Absolutely don't.
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Speaker 7: We don't do the same thing in favor of disclosure.
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Speaker 7: We're in favor of disclosure. If this is the fair
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Speaker 7: income fundraiser, let's see the detail.
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Speaker 1: Fancy Wayne Swan talking about the top end of town.
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Speaker 1: Since he got out of politics, he's been chairman of
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Speaker 1: a massive superannuation fund. I mean, give me a break now.
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Speaker 1: Another bad treasure of the current bloke, Jim Charmers, he's
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Speaker 1: talking to his party faithful. He was talking to his
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Speaker 1: party Faithful and made the false claim that One Nation
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Speaker 1: and Pauline Hansen take their riding instructions from mining magnate
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Speaker 1: Gina Reinhart. And all these critics go on about the
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Speaker 1: donation of a small plane to reach parts of out
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Speaker 1: back Queensland and New South Wales and what about the
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Speaker 1: Channel nine reporter. I mean, this is just embarrassing. I
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Speaker 1: feel sorry for this young woman because I imagine the
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Speaker 1: questions were given to her. She was questioning Pauline Hanson
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Speaker 1: at the Perth airport this week, chirping about whether alling
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Speaker 1: had flown there in Gina's plane.
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Speaker 6: Have a look, it's jus, it's jenis Jack's genius, Jack Bro,
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Speaker 6: Why didn't you fly Gena's Jack?
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Speaker 5: What a dumb question?
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Speaker 6: Did you fly cattle class? I'm not answering your.
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Speaker 4: Stupid questions, right, get some credibility about you as a
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Speaker 4: journalist and learn respect as well.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to answer your stupid questions. That's as
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Speaker 1: good as suck it up, Sunshine, which was aimed at
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Speaker 1: the Premier of Victoria to Cinder Allen. I mean, fancy
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Speaker 1: asking her if she flows cattle class. I mean, do
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Speaker 1: you think that young woman, whoever she is, or whoever
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Speaker 1: gave her those questions, who ought to be sacked, would
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Speaker 1: ask that question of the Prime Minister Anthony Alberanezi or
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Speaker 1: any of the ministers that fly from Canberra back to Perth.
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Speaker 1: Are you flying cattle class? No, they're not flying cattle class. Look,
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Speaker 1: there are huge tests to come for one nation. The
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Speaker 1: next federal election could be as far away as two
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Speaker 1: from now. The big test though, to come is Victoria
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Speaker 1: in November, and don't forget New South Wales goes to
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Speaker 1: the polls in March. But one thing is for sure here.
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Speaker 1: The damage that has been done to the Liberal and
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Speaker 1: National parties is very real and they are now on
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Speaker 1: their way to marching through what used to be this
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Speaker 1: is One Nation safe labor seats as well. All right
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Speaker 1: for more now on the One Nation momentum and the
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Speaker 1: event that was supposed to be happening in Melbourne's Mooney
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Speaker 1: Ponds around now. Pauline Hanson and Barnaby Joyce wered you
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Speaker 1: to speak with the rest of the One Nation team,
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Speaker 1: including my next guest coming up, meeting with business leaders,
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Speaker 1: community figures and supporters as they seek to strengthen their
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Speaker 1: presence here in Victoria. That event, it was a two
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Speaker 1: thousand dollars ahead meet and greet with One Nation. Now
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Speaker 1: you could have probably held that in a small garage
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Speaker 1: twelve months ago. We can't need more but to give
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Speaker 1: you an idea of the reason One Nation support among
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Speaker 1: ours average Australians is surging. Here's a flyer that was
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Speaker 1: sent out this week to get the normal crowd of
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Speaker 1: protesters out at the event that has now been canceled
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Speaker 1: and shifted to a new location. I won't use all
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Speaker 1: of the names, but speakers or the protesters who were
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Speaker 1: out there. You had campaign against racism and fascism, you
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Speaker 1: had a Victorian Socialist, you had students for Palestine. What
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Speaker 1: that's got to do with one nation? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Plus Senator Marine FAROOKI of course Deputy Leader of the Greens.
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Speaker 1: So that says it all. Joining us now, Victorian Upper
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Speaker 1: House MP and the one one Nation Representative in the
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Speaker 1: Victorian Parliament for Northern Victoria, Ricky Lee Terrell, Ricky welcome.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to say where you are, but it
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Speaker 1: looks like the normal gang have been rounded up and
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Speaker 1: are protesting out in the front. Is that right?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, they're out the front. They're out on the
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Speaker 8: street where they belong at the moment.
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Speaker 1: With that kind of attitude, Yeah, I saw Barnaby's that
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Speaker 1: they're saying death to one nation. I mean, seriously, what
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Speaker 1: are students for Palestine got to do with a one
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Speaker 1: nation event? I don't know.
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Speaker 8: Look, I think they're feeling a little threatened because they
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Speaker 8: have this preconceived notion that one nation's out to get
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Speaker 8: everybody with an opposing opinion, but we're really not.
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Speaker 1: Look, there's a real buzz in the air. As we know,
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Speaker 1: One Nation has been I think the top of the
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Speaker 1: news bulletins right through the week because of this fundraiser.
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Speaker 1: Now I should ask you first, I think the latest
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Speaker 1: update on how much in forty eight hours you've raised
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Speaker 1: from the fire. The Lyre fundraiser has gone over three
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Speaker 1: million dollars? Am I correct?
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Speaker 3: You are correct? I checked out about fifteen minutes ago.
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Speaker 8: When we're pushing towards three point two million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Why do you think it's resonated so much with the
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Speaker 1: public around the country.
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Speaker 3: I think it's resonated a lot with the people around
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Speaker 3: the country. Is because they've had an absolutely gut full
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Speaker 3: with the major parties over the past few decades.
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Speaker 8: They cannot afford to continue going down this path. A
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Speaker 8: lot of people have woken up to how much it's
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Speaker 8: actually costing the Aussie households and they're saying that's it.
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Speaker 3: We're changing parties, we're going to change course. We're giving
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Speaker 3: One Nation a go.
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Speaker 1: But as you know, Ricky Lee, it's one thing to
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Speaker 1: say I support One Nation and I will more than
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Speaker 1: likely vote for them. Coming up in November in Victoria,
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Speaker 1: and another thing for someone to pick up the phone
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Speaker 1: or go on to their laptop and send money out
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Speaker 1: of their own pocket during a cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 1: That's a big jump for people. And for it to
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Speaker 1: be three million dollars is absolutely staggering.
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Speaker 3: It is, it is, and this is where it's got to.
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Speaker 8: People are really wanting to send that message to Albanezi
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Speaker 8: right now, saying we've had a gut bull mate, this
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Speaker 8: is it where we mean business.
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Speaker 1: You're based in Sheperdon and you represent the Northern region
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Speaker 1: in Victoria's Upper House. What are the key issues in
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Speaker 1: that area for people who are saying, Okay, I've had
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Speaker 1: enough of the Nats, I've had enough of the Libs.
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Speaker 1: I never want to vote labor anyway. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: vote one nation. What's driving them to vote for you.
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Speaker 3: They're sick to death of being taken for granted.
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Speaker 8: All of their representatives that they've elected in over the
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Speaker 8: years are continuing to turn a deaf ear to them.
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Speaker 3: I'm boots on the ground, girl. I get out there.
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Speaker 3: As soon as I have somebody call me we've made
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Speaker 3: an appointment.
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Speaker 8: I get out there and I have a look at
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Speaker 8: the actual issues and then I'm bringing it up in
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Speaker 8: Parliament straight away. They're not seeing that from their other
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Speaker 8: representatives and so they're seen one nation can deliver.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, given the region you've got, I mean,
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Speaker 1: how do you handle a question when immigration comes up?
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Speaker 1: Because we all know that a lot of the businesses
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Speaker 1: in shep, particularly the fruit blockies, rely on migrant workers.
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Speaker 1: What do you say about that?
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Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, as long as people who are coming to
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Speaker 8: us are assimilating and they're working there, contributing to the
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Speaker 8: economy and the community, one.
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Speaker 3: Nation doesn't have an issue with that.
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Speaker 8: It's the people that are come in here bringing a
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Speaker 8: very large family that are not helping out. They're not,
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Speaker 8: you know, pulling their weight, and they're drowning the system.
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Speaker 8: Our resources cannot sustain the population we've got right now.
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Speaker 1: Pauline said this week that the Victorian premier should suck
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Speaker 1: up criticism following the Ditch the Witch advertising that was
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Speaker 1: doing the rounds in Melbourne, CBD. Did you think such
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Speaker 1: a target and personal campaign was fair? I mean I
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Speaker 1: told her also to suck it up, and I wonder
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Speaker 1: if you could, Ricky for me get one of those
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Speaker 1: suck it up sunshine t shirts that are on sale.
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Speaker 1: If you can get one, I'll pay you back.
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Speaker 3: I will definitely get you on.
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Speaker 7: Look.
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Speaker 3: I like the tough and up buttercups line a little
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Speaker 3: bit better for my area. And I prefer to myself
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Speaker 3: as a good witch to the north. And I'm happy
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Speaker 3: to ride that broom. So I don't know what she's
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Speaker 3: carrying on about.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, very precious. The real concerns in Victoria, how do
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Speaker 1: you feel the party more generally is going to go?
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Speaker 1: You're the lone one nation MP at the moment. Are
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Speaker 1: you getting a feeling that you're going to be joined
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Speaker 1: by a lot of colleagues come November December?
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Speaker 8: I do have a suspicion that I might be joined
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Speaker 8: by a few more colleagues, and I'm making sure that
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Speaker 8: those people are ready to go if they are elected
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Speaker 8: in I'm very optimistic to see one nation grow in Victoria.
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Speaker 1: What's just finally, what sort of numbers? What sort of
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Speaker 1: numbers do you think might be outside? We've just seen
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Speaker 1: some vision from the police of police out the front,
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Speaker 1: which will show in a sec But what sort of
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Speaker 1: numbers have you got inside?
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Speaker 3: It's starting to fill up right now.
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Speaker 5: I'll just have a.
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Speaker 8: Look, looking at about fifty to one hundred people. We're
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Speaker 8: expecting a few more though, so they're starting to creep in.
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Speaker 8: They've got to get free that crowd out the front though.
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately there's a massive police presence out there now, Ricky Lee,
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Speaker 1: I mean that is incredible to see that this is
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Speaker 1: a one nation fundraiser with not a huge crowd and
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Speaker 1: from that vision that we've just shown there, that's just in.
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Speaker 1: I would be estimating this somewhere between fifty and sixty
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Speaker 1: police out the front. I mean that what a waste
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Speaker 1: of resources when, as you and I both know, Ricky,
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Speaker 1: we're in the middle of a crime crisis in Victoria
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Speaker 1: and these police have got to stand out there to
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Speaker 1: protect an Australian politician. That's ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: It is ridiculous.
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Speaker 8: Look, we're here for democracy and people need to accept
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Speaker 8: that one nation is not the enemy.
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Speaker 3: We want the best for all Australians.
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Speaker 1: Ricky Lee, good luck tonight. Thank you very much for
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Speaker 1: Johnny us. Appreciate it. That's Ricky Lee there at t
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Speaker 1: I mean that is crazy. That police presence you just
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Speaker 1: saw there, those pictures just in that that is just ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, Okay, let's go to the issues with
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Speaker 1: Donald try Rump and his dramatic decision to call off
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Speaker 1: that plan military strikes on Iran and claim some form
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Speaker 1: of agreement has now been approved. It comes after, of course,
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Speaker 1: days of escalating tension and fears the conflicts could get
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Speaker 1: into another wider regional war. Dick and University's Global Islamic
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Speaker 1: Politics chair as Professor Greg Barton. He joined us on
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Speaker 1: a regular basis. Greg, welcome. This appeared to be moving
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Speaker 1: rapidly today. We saw we saw President Trump in the
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Speaker 1: in the Oval office talking about how he thinks the
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Speaker 1: deal will be signed quickly. But we've heard this before,
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Speaker 1: haven't we.
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Speaker 4: We have heard this before, We've seen this movie before.
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Speaker 4: Question is how this movie ends this time? I think
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Speaker 4: there is you know, a couple of things I clear, Steve.
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Speaker 4: One is there are no good military options to President
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Speaker 4: Trump doesn't want to be the guy involved in forever wars.
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Speaker 4: He campaigned against that. He really wants an off ramp.
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Speaker 4: And three, the Iranians unfortunately, feel they have the upper hand.
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Speaker 4: They feel that, you know, they've taken a lot of punishment.
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Speaker 4: They don't want more. But if they have to go
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Speaker 4: through months of conflict. They could endure it as long
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Speaker 4: as they survive, and they're confident they can. And even
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Speaker 4: though they've got very little air force and Navy left,
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Speaker 4: they can still project power, particularly across the Strait of
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Speaker 4: holl Moves, and that, of course is the clincher. They've
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Speaker 4: learned that they can control that straight and we know
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Speaker 4: that there are no military solutions to open the strait.
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Speaker 4: So the uncomfortable reality for President Trump is that the
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Speaker 4: least worst of the options is to enter into an
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Speaker 4: agreement that enables further negotiations down the track, including particularly
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Speaker 4: of the nuclear program, but to immediately get that straight open.
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Speaker 4: He knows that he just doesn't want to be seen
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Speaker 4: to be a loser. He's always wanted to be seen
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Speaker 4: to be the guy holding the cards. It does look
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Speaker 4: like he's not really holding the cards, So he needs
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Speaker 4: to find a face setting way to quickly exit because
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Speaker 4: we're running to the point where oil stocks are going
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Speaker 4: to hit zero and then things get really crazy.
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Speaker 1: Greg you've studied this regime closely, your ears would have
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Speaker 1: pucked up when the President said, I believe that this
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Speaker 1: regime has changed. I believe that this regime is is
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Speaker 1: more likely to be able to talk to us. Sensibly,
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Speaker 1: I believe that this regime might be there to do
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Speaker 1: a deal. Is he kidding himself or are the Iranians
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Speaker 1: and their economy in such bad shape that perhaps the
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Speaker 1: head of the Iranian regime realizes they've got to do
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Speaker 1: some sort of deal before the whole country's destroyed.
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Speaker 4: I think both sides actually, Steve recognize that, you know,
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Speaker 4: no one's going to benefit from carrying since there's no
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Speaker 4: military solution to this. There's no military way out of this.
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Speaker 4: America certainly is much more powerful than in Iran. It
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Speaker 4: can afflict a lot of damage. The Iranian economy is
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Speaker 4: really suffering. They're doing okay in oil sales just because
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Speaker 4: of smuggled oil and oil going over land, but also
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Speaker 4: elevated prices, but the economy is certainly suffering. These ninety
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Speaker 4: three million Iranians are suffering even more than they have
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Speaker 4: in many years. So there is a and this regime
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Speaker 4: does want to be as popular as it can. It
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Speaker 4: certainly wants to survive, so it wants to find a
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Speaker 4: way out. They also have their vested interest in you.
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Speaker 4: They control the economy, so you know, it's their economics
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Speaker 4: as well as their people's economics, and President Trump knows
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Speaker 4: that there's no other good options here, so he just
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Speaker 4: wants this to end the straight to open before oil
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Speaker 4: reserves run out and before US gas prices really spike
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Speaker 4: ahead of the November midterms. I think what you're hearing
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Speaker 4: from him saying this about has been changed in Tehran
19:21
Speaker 4: is you know, guys, please returnd on my phone calls.
19:23
Speaker 4: Let's get on with solving this. We're not going to
19:25
Speaker 4: achieve anything by drawing this out any longer, and you
19:28
Speaker 4: can sort of unpack whose fault it is and what
19:31
Speaker 4: missed opportunities there are. But I think the important takeaway,
19:34
Speaker 4: and the markets are pricing this in, is that both
19:36
Speaker 4: sides want to find a way to the off ramp.
19:39
Speaker 1: What's you read on the relationship currently between Donald Trump
19:42
Speaker 1: and Benjamin Nitt and Yahoo and the US and israel
19:45
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly the President got very annoyed when the
19:49
Speaker 1: Israelis went hard in to Lebanon again with threats of
19:54
Speaker 1: bombing by route. He claims the President that he got
19:58
Speaker 1: them to back off. The his Bala threat is still there.
20:04
Speaker 1: Do you think that Benjamin netnya who's listening to Donald
20:07
Speaker 1: Trump or he's just keeping him happy but going on
20:11
Speaker 1: and doing his own thing.
20:13
Speaker 4: I think several things are possibly true. I mean, one
20:15
Speaker 4: thing is very clear his Bla remains a threat. But
20:18
Speaker 4: also it's clear that there's no military solution to ending
20:20
Speaker 4: his ballah's power. If there was, Israel would have got
20:24
Speaker 4: there by now. They've had a series of tactical successes,
20:27
Speaker 4: but no lasting strategic victory and probably no real strategic roadmap.
20:32
Speaker 4: They occupied not just southern Lebanon, but Beiru in nineteen
20:36
Speaker 4: eighty two. That was before his bulla existed, but that
20:39
Speaker 4: gave rise to his bulla, and you know, all the
20:42
Speaker 4: decades since this problem hasn't gone away. And this latest campaign,
20:46
Speaker 4: militarily impressive, hasn't made his bola go away. The government
20:51
Speaker 4: in Lebanon is not able to deal with and the
20:54
Speaker 4: government is weaker than his bulla. So this is a
20:55
Speaker 4: really devilish problem. I think in some ways Minister Nanna,
21:00
Speaker 4: who would himself like an off rant on this, but
21:03
Speaker 4: he's going to elections in a few months, says he's
21:05
Speaker 4: at the date, but it's not far off, and he
21:07
Speaker 4: wants to be I think a wartime prime minister because
21:10
Speaker 4: he puts him in the strongest position, so he certainly
21:13
Speaker 4: has a difference of outlook compared with Donald Trump. Donald
21:16
Speaker 4: Trump is an old friend Prime Minister Natna who has
21:20
Speaker 4: invested a lot in stroking Donald Trump's ego. But I
21:23
Speaker 4: do think that relationship is heading towards breaking point, if
21:26
Speaker 4: not there already. President Trump has a long history of
21:30
Speaker 4: relationships that have gone sour of people betray him. If
21:33
Speaker 4: he feels let down, he'll turn on people. And although Natna,
21:37
Speaker 4: who has counted on Trump up until now, I don't
21:39
Speaker 4: think he would be wise to count on this relationship.
21:42
Speaker 4: And during too much more provocation, Trump knows that he's
21:45
Speaker 4: being played in terms of embarrassed in terms of this
21:49
Speaker 4: deal with Tehran, being sort of stymied by Natna who's approach,
21:55
Speaker 4: and he sees Natua who is serving his own interests,
21:57
Speaker 4: and he's none too impressed by.
21:59
Speaker 1: That great assessment. Greg Barton, thank you mate. We'll talk
22:03
Speaker 1: to you shortly now. Coming up after the break balling,
22:05
Speaker 1: Hanson annoints her daughter as the future One Nation leader,
22:08
Speaker 1: while Peter Betty, the former Queensland premier, has reopened some
22:12
Speaker 1: old political wounds and is Australia becoming poorer because labor
22:16
Speaker 1: has no answers on productivity. More to come after the break.
22:24
Speaker 1: Welcome back Steep Price with you. I'll get to Campbell
22:27
Speaker 1: Newman in just a moment. I want to go back
22:28
Speaker 1: to this situation around this One Nation gathering that's taking place.
22:32
Speaker 1: It was originally supposed to be in Mooney Pond's and
22:34
Speaker 1: the inner northern suburbs of Melbourne. It's now been shifted
22:38
Speaker 1: to South Melbourne. Those pictures are just in. We've got
22:40
Speaker 1: a camera crew on the spot and look at the
22:43
Speaker 1: number of police resources that are now required to protect
22:48
Speaker 1: some people from One Nation who simply wanted to have
22:51
Speaker 1: a fundraiser in a venue. Now, where's free spreech in
22:56
Speaker 1: this country when you've got this sort of thing going on?
22:58
Speaker 1: And who are they? Well, it's Social Life Action, it's
23:01
Speaker 1: Student Friends of Palestine, it's you know, the ragtag collection
23:05
Speaker 1: of rentable protest Does I mean seriously it's ridiculous. Well,
23:11
Speaker 1: because One Nation, as we said at the start of
23:13
Speaker 1: the show, I've had a huge week. They've raised more
23:15
Speaker 1: than three million dollars. I think it's still going up
23:17
Speaker 1: as we speak, and scenes like that will make it
23:20
Speaker 1: go up even quicker. Former Queensland Premier Peter Betty claimed
23:24
Speaker 1: he orchestrated a political witch hunt. Pauline said that send
23:27
Speaker 1: her to jail for electoral fraud. In two thousand and three,
23:30
Speaker 1: our Friday Night Regular from a Queensland Premier Campbell Newman
23:34
Speaker 1: joins us, I mean just on the police presence there,
23:37
Speaker 1: Campbell at a fundraiser where I'm told it's two thousand
23:42
Speaker 1: dollars ahead for people to go and have a meet
23:44
Speaker 1: and greet with Pauline Hanson, Barnaby Joyce and the other
23:48
Speaker 1: one Nation MPs and James Ashby. You've done enough many
23:53
Speaker 1: of these fundraisers. Do we really seriously think it's good
23:57
Speaker 1: use of police resources to be doing that? Well, it's
24:02
Speaker 1: it's not a.
24:03
Speaker 9: Good use of police resources, particularly when you're the crime
24:07
Speaker 9: capital of Australia. Stephen, I know, I know you would
24:11
Speaker 9: agree with me on that. Sadly, the beautiful city of
24:14
Speaker 9: Melbourne is just plagued by you know, this outbreak of crime.
24:20
Speaker 9: But you know, I look at the end of the day,
24:22
Speaker 9: I suppose there's a view there that you know, the
24:27
Speaker 9: safety you've attendees is threatened and this is just the
24:31
Speaker 9: left today in Australia, and you don't you don't see
24:33
Speaker 9: There's a lot of talk about the right, the extreme right,
24:37
Speaker 9: et cetera, but you know, you don't see them turning up.
24:41
Speaker 9: You know, I don't see conservatives turning up to abuse
24:45
Speaker 9: and heckle and try and shut down events that the
24:49
Speaker 9: Labor Party of the Greens are running. It is disgraceful
24:53
Speaker 9: and as you just said in your intro, this is
24:55
Speaker 9: why this fundraising campaign to fire the lare By one
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Speaker 9: will continue to go off. I mean I checked just
25:03
Speaker 9: before I came on air. It's now at three point
25:05
Speaker 9: two to six million dollars. I have no doubt that
25:08
Speaker 9: it's faired income, legitimate dollars from over fifty thousand Australians.
25:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at Barnaby. Joyce earlier said that, you know
25:18
Speaker 1: they were chanting death to one nation as these people
25:21
Speaker 1: as they arrived to this new venue. The protests has
25:24
Speaker 1: quickly found out where it was. I mean, you and
25:26
Speaker 1: I are old enough to remember when Pauline first came
25:28
Speaker 1: on the scene. Some of the violence directed at her
25:32
Speaker 1: back then thirty years ago was just disgraceful and again
25:37
Speaker 1: it soaked up police resources right around the country. What
25:39
Speaker 1: about Pauline's reference to Peter Beatty remind me about what
25:43
Speaker 1: Beattie's role was in Hanson going to jail. I thought
25:47
Speaker 1: it was more to do with John Howard involved in fraud.
25:54
Speaker 1: Was it Beattie or was it the Federal Libs.
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Speaker 9: Well, I was a bit surprised. I used to see
26:00
Speaker 9: this sort of coming out that somehow Betty was involved.
26:03
Speaker 1: I thought that it was more.
26:06
Speaker 9: Someone like actually Tony Abbott, who I believe is subsequently
26:11
Speaker 9: sort of sort of acknowledged that in a way. I'm
26:16
Speaker 9: sorry if I'm wrong about that, Toney. But Peter Birdie, Well,
26:21
Speaker 9: I think Beatty had to deal with the outcomes of
26:25
Speaker 9: the Shepherdson inquiry, which was an inquiry into essentially wrongdoing
26:31
Speaker 9: by members of the Labor Party. You had a former
26:35
Speaker 9: well he's Deputy Premier, Jim Elder lost his job over it,
26:39
Speaker 9: Mike Kaiser, who went then on to other sort of
26:43
Speaker 9: things in the Labor Party in the public sector. He
26:46
Speaker 9: was found have done the wrong thing.
26:49
Speaker 5: Because they were.
26:50
Speaker 9: There was vote rigging and branch stacking and all sorts
26:52
Speaker 9: of things going on, and Bedie had to act and
26:55
Speaker 9: he did have to change the electoral laws in Queensland.
26:59
Speaker 9: I don't think he singled out Pauline Hanson if she's
27:03
Speaker 9: saying that, I actually don't believe that's what was motivating
27:07
Speaker 9: Peter Beadie. It wasn't about going after her. Other people
27:11
Speaker 9: may have. Other people may have pointed out that she
27:14
Speaker 9: was in breach for the law, but I think Beatty
27:16
Speaker 9: was dealing with the issue that he was confronted with
27:19
Speaker 9: at the time.
27:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went back because I dragged out some quotes
27:23
Speaker 1: of abuse toward people like Tony Abbott to make a
27:26
Speaker 1: comparison between how Jacinda Allen down here got so upset
27:30
Speaker 1: about the ditch the witch billboard that was going around town,
27:34
Speaker 1: and certainly Tony Abbott and John Howard I think had
27:37
Speaker 1: much more to do with Pauline Hanson in the early
27:40
Speaker 1: days because took her preselection away from her in that seat,
27:45
Speaker 1: even though it was so close to the election from
27:47
Speaker 1: my memory, and they had of vote cards had already
27:50
Speaker 1: been printed, so Pauline Hansen stood as a one nation candidate,
27:53
Speaker 1: but on the ballot it said she was still in
27:55
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party.
27:58
Speaker 9: Well, look, I want to touch on this of name
28:00
Speaker 9: calling stuff. I don't like seeing people start throwing around
28:05
Speaker 9: this ditch the witch stuff, whether it's against your Premier
28:10
Speaker 9: Disenter Allen, whether it's about former Prime Minister Gillard or
28:13
Speaker 9: for that matter, Pauline Hanson. And there's stuff in the
28:17
Speaker 9: media this afternoon Labor lined Ipswich councilor Paul Tully was
28:23
Speaker 9: holding up a sign like that about Hanson back thirty
28:26
Speaker 9: years ago. You know what gets me though, is that
28:30
Speaker 9: the hypocrisy of the left, the way they curl up
28:33
Speaker 9: and they carry on and winge and cry and scream
28:37
Speaker 9: when these sorts of things have directed them. And again
28:39
Speaker 9: I want to emphasize I don't engage in that sort
28:43
Speaker 9: of name calling. I try and be scrupless.
28:45
Speaker 10: About it on this network, but you know they do
28:48
Speaker 10: dish it out.
28:50
Speaker 9: When I was premier, my wife and my daughters were
28:53
Speaker 9: abused by Labor Party operatives, by union leaders on poling booths, etc.
29:00
Speaker 9: And when I complained in the media at the time,
29:02
Speaker 9: guess what the media up here in Queensland looked at
29:05
Speaker 9: me and said, glass jaw, what a winger, what a wine?
29:10
Speaker 9: You know, grow some backbone. That's the difference, you see, mate.
29:14
Speaker 9: The Left will dish it out when it comes back
29:16
Speaker 9: to them. They scream and yell and cry, and really
29:20
Speaker 9: everyone should get on with it. But you know I'm
29:22
Speaker 9: not You know, there shouldn't be the name calling in
29:25
Speaker 9: the first place, is my position.
29:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, having been called the poison dwarf by people in
29:32
Speaker 1: the media myself, duck up water off a duck's back, mate,
29:36
Speaker 1: Who cares. I don't give rats about that. But you know,
29:39
Speaker 1: labor dishes it out Tony. We had all the current
29:43
Speaker 1: prime minister at of the Albanesi back then saying Tony
29:46
Speaker 1: Abbott's was nuts. And if you read McCollum up in
29:49
Speaker 1: the here, it's up online now. I've got about twenty
29:52
Speaker 1: examples of current labor ministers in the Albanese government using
29:57
Speaker 1: that sort of language about Tony Abbott. It's all over
30:00
Speaker 1: the place, Campbell.
30:01
Speaker 5: Great to see you at a high pip.
30:03
Speaker 9: Yeah, cheers mate.
30:04
Speaker 1: So I know hypocrites, they are hypocrites. Good on you,
30:08
Speaker 1: Thank you mate. I'll talk to you next Friday. All right.
30:10
Speaker 1: I want to go quickly to the state of the economy.
30:12
Speaker 1: I was really shocked this week to see that Barbecue's
30:15
Speaker 1: Galore of all places is heading for liquidation. Could be
30:18
Speaker 1: up to five hundred jobs gone. Sixty two of the
30:21
Speaker 1: company owned stools to begin closing from the sixteenth to June.
30:25
Speaker 1: I must say some of the franchisees will stay open.
30:30
Speaker 1: Who would have thought a barbecue shop in Australia, of
30:33
Speaker 1: all businesses, would fall over? I reckon. It's a perfect
30:36
Speaker 1: example of how bad the economy really is. Someone who
30:40
Speaker 1: knows much more about economics than me Economics Managing Director
30:43
Speaker 1: Warren Hogan, How bad are we traveling if a barbecue
30:47
Speaker 1: shop goes broke?
30:49
Speaker 11: Yeah, good evening, Steve. Look, I think there's as good
30:52
Speaker 11: and bad news in this the bad news and I
30:56
Speaker 11: think it's probably playing a big role here is just
30:59
Speaker 11: this inability of the government and the Reserve Bank to
31:02
Speaker 11: get inflation under control. It is, at his heart just
31:05
Speaker 11: consistent upward pressure on business costs and it means that
31:10
Speaker 11: if any business misses a beat, they're in trouble. And
31:15
Speaker 11: of course it's the cost of living crisis which is
31:17
Speaker 11: driving people to one notion as well.
31:19
Speaker 1: So this is at the heart of it.
31:21
Speaker 11: And of course that's the first thing any government's got
31:23
Speaker 11: to do in any country at any point in time
31:26
Speaker 11: is stabilized inflation. And the reality is we learnt in
31:29
Speaker 11: the past twelve months this government has failed that test
31:33
Speaker 11: and the Reserve Bank has failed that test. So that's
31:37
Speaker 11: the economic management piece. But in terms of I think
31:40
Speaker 11: the decision to sell it all down is probably a
31:44
Speaker 11: reflection of the industry changing more intense competition that cost pressure.
31:49
Speaker 11: But also there is record low vacancy rates for what
31:52
Speaker 11: they call large format retailers, so they'll be able to
31:55
Speaker 11: release the stores pretty effectively at a decent price. And
31:59
Speaker 11: of course there's a huge shortage of staff in the
32:02
Speaker 11: large format retail industry. There's about five hundred workers that
32:05
Speaker 11: are at risk here. There's about five hundred thousand who
32:08
Speaker 11: work in this large format retail industry in Australia. So
32:12
Speaker 11: you know there will be other jobs out there, and
32:14
Speaker 11: if people play their cards right, they'll get their entitlements,
32:17
Speaker 11: all the store credits will be paid, and you know
32:19
Speaker 11: they can get another job pretty quickly, might get a
32:21
Speaker 11: bit of a financial kick. So that's the good news.
32:24
Speaker 11: We've got an economy that has still got a bit
32:27
Speaker 11: of enough demand in it to get these people jobs again,
32:30
Speaker 11: and of course release these sites.
32:33
Speaker 1: Well let's hope they do get jobs. I mean, what
32:34
Speaker 1: we're talking there about, of course, is discretionary spending. I mean,
32:37
Speaker 1: if you've got a barbecue that's five years old, and
32:39
Speaker 1: you go, I'd love a new one, but given all
32:42
Speaker 1: the costs that have gone on the bottom line at
32:44
Speaker 1: home on the dining room table, I'll wait for the
32:47
Speaker 1: barbecue for another couple of years. Let's also talk about
32:49
Speaker 1: this article in The Australian. The cafe culture, according to
32:52
Speaker 1: one experts on the brink as a result of the
32:55
Speaker 1: Fair Work Commission decision to bump up those award rates
32:58
Speaker 1: we've tot I heard you talk about this last week.
33:00
Speaker 1: Four point four dollars seventy four point seventy five percent.
33:04
Speaker 1: The minimum wage now is over one thousand dollars. It's
33:09
Speaker 1: almost impossible now for cafes. I mean, you go into
33:13
Speaker 1: a cafe on our public holiday and then the two
33:15
Speaker 1: people behind the jump and I've experienced this myself, are
33:18
Speaker 1: more than likely the owners because they can't afford to
33:21
Speaker 1: have staff in there.
33:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, and this is that cost pressure.
33:26
Speaker 11: And of course the biggest cost in our economy across
33:29
Speaker 11: all industry is staff, is labor. And of course you
33:33
Speaker 11: get the Fair Work Commission. I think this is probably
33:35
Speaker 11: the most irresponsible decision they've made in the last five
33:39
Speaker 11: years since this old inflation episode started. This was the
33:44
Speaker 11: time when they needed to sort of you know, everyone
33:47
Speaker 11: needed to chip in. But you know, when the government
33:50
Speaker 11: themselves don't do anything in their budgets, they're still spending
33:53
Speaker 11: at three percent plus. And you know, why would the
33:56
Speaker 11: Fair Work Commission think lower paident workers should make their
33:59
Speaker 11: make their contribution and maybe only increase wages by four
34:03
Speaker 11: They went for five and six for the minimum wage.
34:07
Speaker 11: It's it's just a lack of financial restraint from the
34:11
Speaker 11: from anyone in government, from the Fair Work Commission. Of course,
34:14
Speaker 11: in the end, who pays for it? Businesses who've got
34:17
Speaker 11: the costs and if they can't, if they can pass.
34:20
Speaker 5: The cost on, then the consumer pays. We all pay.
34:23
Speaker 11: It's an unsustainable economy. And you know there's something working
34:27
Speaker 11: around the corner that's not great. Whether it's a lot
34:29
Speaker 11: of rate hikes or just an economy that goes into
34:31
Speaker 11: a downturn, I'm not sure. But we can't keep going
34:34
Speaker 11: like this because, as you just said, we're going to
34:36
Speaker 11: start to see whole chunks of industry start to fall away.
34:39
Speaker 11: And it's yeah, something will give before we get to there.
34:44
Speaker 1: You're the guru of interest rate predictions, sometimes right, sometimes wrong,
34:49
Speaker 1: like everybody because No one really knows what the RBA
34:52
Speaker 1: Board's going to do. They've got a meeting next week.
34:54
Speaker 1: We'll get a result on Tuesday. A few people today
34:58
Speaker 1: talking about them putting it on hold. What's your feeling, Oh, well.
35:04
Speaker 11: I think they've told us that they're not going to
35:06
Speaker 11: do anything, and the market certainly doesn't think so. And
35:08
Speaker 11: I don't think there's an economist out there calling for
35:10
Speaker 11: a movie either way. But is that the right thing
35:13
Speaker 11: to do? I mean, Steve, I can give a forecasting
35:17
Speaker 11: an economy of twenty seven million Australians my best shot,
35:19
Speaker 11: and do it better than the average. I can't forecast
35:22
Speaker 11: what nine people up at the Reserve Bank are going
35:24
Speaker 11: to do, and all I can take is their past behavior,
35:28
Speaker 11: and you know they're just not willing. They don't have
35:31
Speaker 11: the courage of the conviction to do what's needed to
35:33
Speaker 11: get on top of this inflation. And what we're seeing
35:36
Speaker 11: is it's not just having these economic effects, it's having
35:39
Speaker 11: political ones, and it's having real potential long term implications
35:44
Speaker 11: through our country. So they should be raising rates next
35:46
Speaker 11: week because we need a higher interest rate to help
35:49
Speaker 11: realign the economy, the rebalance it. But they won't and look,
35:54
Speaker 11: if the economy just keeps suffering over the month's ahead,
35:57
Speaker 11: we may be done for the time being on raid Hix.
36:00
Speaker 11: That doesn't mean we're done on inflation. And that's the
36:02
Speaker 11: key is how much pressure has been put on business
36:05
Speaker 11: and on households because of prices going up.
36:08
Speaker 1: It It was good to catch up Warren Hogan, have
36:10
Speaker 1: a great weekend, thank you very much. Now coming up
36:12
Speaker 1: rights on the streets of Northern Ireland. It's been unreal
36:15
Speaker 1: to watch what's happened there, more unrest across Britain. Our
36:18
Speaker 1: regular Adrian Hayes joins us up next from London. Welcome
36:26
Speaker 1: back our panel, come out. I'll check in again at
36:28
Speaker 1: that One Nation event that's unfolding in South Melbourne. A
36:32
Speaker 1: huge police presence there. We'll find out exactly what's happening.
36:35
Speaker 1: It pales into significance though, when you consider what's playing
36:38
Speaker 1: out in Northern Ireland and parts of the UK, people
36:42
Speaker 1: gathering on the streets, police again coming under attack in
36:45
Speaker 1: the latest incidents. Now, of course it follows that horror
36:48
Speaker 1: attack in near beheading of a man at the alleged
36:51
Speaker 1: hands of a Sudanese refugee, and meanwhile five men have
36:55
Speaker 1: been jailed following violent protests linked to the murder of
36:59
Speaker 1: Henry Sky. Ish contributor Adrian Hayes happens to be in
37:04
Speaker 1: Hampshire where some of those rights have taken place. Adrian,
37:08
Speaker 1: things relatively quiet now or is there still a lot
37:10
Speaker 1: of anger around?
37:12
Speaker 10: Well?
37:13
Speaker 12: As you said, Steven, Northern Ireland, the riots were pretty
37:16
Speaker 12: serious and some you know, the thuggery sort of took
37:20
Speaker 12: hold of it on that.
37:21
Speaker 10: Of course, normal line is not you know, is not
37:24
Speaker 10: new to riots.
37:25
Speaker 12: The protests on the streets and riots are something that's
37:27
Speaker 12: been throughout their history.
37:28
Speaker 10: But it was pretty serious. But I think the anger
37:31
Speaker 10: on the streets is really two for one of this.
37:35
Speaker 12: Obviously, the sense of the Northern Island a silent seeker
37:38
Speaker 12: who tried to be head a man on the streets.
37:41
Speaker 12: There's an anger that if it was just one event,
37:43
Speaker 12: I think there'll be, you know, a sort of sporadic
37:46
Speaker 12: anger to come to the four straight away. But it's
37:49
Speaker 12: because this sort of thing is happening weekly, in fact
37:51
Speaker 12: daily in the case of assaults and crimes on the
37:55
Speaker 12: you know, in London, I think seventy five percent of
37:57
Speaker 12: all the rest are legal immigrants, but there's that but
38:00
Speaker 12: there's also the anger against the political establishment.
38:03
Speaker 10: Their response to.
38:04
Speaker 1: It, so their response to it is look away, nothing
38:10
Speaker 1: to see here. It would seem from the starma government.
38:13
Speaker 1: I mean, this has been going on for years. It
38:15
Speaker 1: would seem month after month after month, you've still got
38:18
Speaker 1: boats coming across the channel with illegals on board. Many
38:22
Speaker 1: of these illegals, as you've told me before, get housed
38:24
Speaker 1: in hotels, I get, you know, welfare straight away. When
38:28
Speaker 1: they start to turn on the very people that have
38:31
Speaker 1: given them a new home, and they do it violently,
38:35
Speaker 1: you know, that's a different story.
38:38
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're right, And this is where the complete frustration.
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Speaker 12: So for the government, the response is to blame Elon Musk,
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Speaker 12: Tommy Robinson, Nigel Barage and so on. And of course
38:48
Speaker 12: the rioters, the rioters or the riots that came gave
38:51
Speaker 12: them a convenience excuse that allow them to take their
38:54
Speaker 12: eye off the actual a terrible assault by this illegal immigrant,
38:59
Speaker 12: you know, and an active leadership would be saying that,
39:02
Speaker 12: a real leadership this country is saying that we understand
39:04
Speaker 12: the anger.
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Speaker 10: This was a terrible assault, but we are going to
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Speaker 10: sort out this problem.
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Speaker 12: We're going to sort out how this guy got here
39:10
Speaker 12: and we're going to make sure this doesn't happen again.
39:12
Speaker 12: But no, they will prefer to sort of class everyone
39:15
Speaker 12: as far right who's and there was a lot of
39:17
Speaker 12: peaceful protests on the streets, both in Southampton near me
39:20
Speaker 12: and in northern Ireland. But of course it got overtaken
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Speaker 12: by some buggery, but they would prefer to blame that
39:26
Speaker 12: and then take the rye and get off the hook
39:28
Speaker 12: on the actual assaults that took place.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Noak death and this idea that
39:36
Speaker 1: there's two levels of policing in your country. Henry Noak
39:40
Speaker 1: left handcuffed, he'd been stabbed. There was that twelve minute
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Speaker 1: message from from the Indian people who claimed that he
39:48
Speaker 1: was he was assaulting them. Is it really a two
39:53
Speaker 1: level policing in the UK? I can't believe that.
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Speaker 10: The one would like you to think otherwise. But the
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Speaker 10: head of Hampshire Police.
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Speaker 12: Which is my local police station I live near Southampton,
40:08
Speaker 12: said in twenty twenty two being anti racist, ethical and
40:11
Speaker 12: inclusive is top of our agenda. Now some people may think, well,
40:15
Speaker 12: actually catching criminals should be top, but it's in the
40:18
Speaker 12: police guidance. The College of Police and states that anti
40:21
Speaker 12: racism is the top priority the race action plans.
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Speaker 10: It is there in black and white.
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Speaker 12: And so you had got this this terrible case of
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Speaker 12: Henry Novak, a student who was murdered by a seat
40:34
Speaker 12: knifeman but was put in handcuffs, and this news made
40:38
Speaker 12: a sort of news across the world. And again the
40:40
Speaker 12: police response to it, the half hearted apology, which is
40:44
Speaker 12: what got protests on the streets outside of the Suhampton
40:47
Speaker 12: Police station, then unfortunately went a little bit to riotous
40:51
Speaker 12: a little bit later.
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Speaker 1: Adrian, I'm sadley thinking that that sort of things hitded
40:57
Speaker 1: to our country, But I just hope and pray it
40:59
Speaker 1: to always good to catch up with my friend. I've
41:01
Speaker 1: talked to you in a couple of weeks, Adrian Hayes.
41:03
Speaker 1: There coming up next Melbourne family battling the suburban rail loop,
41:07
Speaker 1: bureaucrats spending big can you believe this on lunches and
41:11
Speaker 1: rooftop bars, And there's new warnings about social media and
41:15
Speaker 1: teenage of mental health. Our Frida panel. Next, Welcome back
41:23
Speaker 1: Rondine coming up. That one Nation meeting down here and
41:26
Speaker 1: the police resources are thrown at it just is crazy.
41:30
Speaker 1: But I suspect this is going to happen around the country.
41:32
Speaker 1: I mean, we're two years away from a federal election campaign,
41:36
Speaker 1: two years and yet it feels like the federal election
41:39
Speaker 1: campaign started already. We've got a Victorian election first, and
41:42
Speaker 1: we had a New South Wales election early next year,
41:44
Speaker 1: but it seems like it started already. Sky News contributed
41:48
Speaker 1: Joe hilde Brand joint us and we have Mia slip
41:50
Speaker 1: with it shortly.
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Speaker 10: Joe.
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Speaker 1: We're a long way away from an election. But poor
41:55
Speaker 1: old Angus Taylor today he was in Perth. Now, as
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Speaker 1: an East Coaster who used to run a radio network,
42:03
Speaker 1: I know the dangers of going to a place where
42:06
Speaker 1: you don't really know who the people are, or what
42:09
Speaker 1: they're doing or what they think. Have a look at
42:11
Speaker 1: poor old Angus who was quiz by one of the
42:14
Speaker 1: journos from Perth and they're very parochial. As you know,
42:17
Speaker 1: you can't talk about anything other than wa have her
42:21
Speaker 1: listened to poor old Angus trying to get out of
42:23
Speaker 1: the fact that he had no idea where.
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Speaker 6: He was and the name of seat you're standing in
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Speaker 6: right now.
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Speaker 13: Well, I mean, as I said, I'm going to focus,
42:31
Speaker 13: I'm going to focus not on the politics of individual
42:34
Speaker 13: seats or this or that. I'm going to focus on
42:36
Speaker 13: the future of this country, and that is I'm going
42:39
Speaker 13: to focus on the future of this country. Do you
42:41
Speaker 13: not know the freet We're going to keep going, keep going.
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Speaker 1: Of the electric, keep going around in Wa. Well, he
42:48
Speaker 1: quite cleverly got out of it by saying I'm not
42:51
Speaker 1: interested in individual seats. The only problem with that answer
42:55
Speaker 1: was Joe he is in a seat because he's interested
42:58
Speaker 1: in winning the seat.
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Speaker 5: Right. Yeah, that's it, really is. That's right. I mean,
43:03
Speaker 5: that was just excruciating to watch. I don't think. I
43:07
Speaker 5: mean the thing with WA.
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Speaker 14: The first thing to remember, when Australia was first federated,
43:12
Speaker 14: we were more likely to end up with New Zealand
43:15
Speaker 14: as a state than we were with WA. That's how
43:18
Speaker 14: much they think of us, That's how much they want
43:20
Speaker 14: to be part of the East Coast of Australia. So
43:23
Speaker 14: when you go over there, as you said, Pricey, you've
43:25
Speaker 14: really got to lay it on. You've got to make
43:27
Speaker 14: sure you are paying attention, that you understand West Australians,
43:30
Speaker 14: that you understand that they are different species and according
43:33
Speaker 14: to themselves, a superior one, and you have got to
43:36
Speaker 14: go and sort of kneel at the altar and kiss
43:38
Speaker 14: the ring, and to sort of go over there and
43:40
Speaker 14: just not know where you what seat you're even fighting for.
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Speaker 1: You're bringing back, really, you're bringing back really bad memories
43:48
Speaker 1: for me. I went over there and sacked the presenter
43:51
Speaker 1: of a morning radio talkback program. He went to the
43:54
Speaker 1: ABC and he was number one for the next ten years.
43:57
Speaker 1: So that shows what you have to know what you're doing.
44:00
Speaker 1: Me in the same Griffith Society, joins us Mia. I
44:04
Speaker 1: want to talk about this federal government. They've spent a
44:06
Speaker 1: quarter million dollars developing a first nation's foreign policy strategy,
44:12
Speaker 1: but when asked to produce it, officials insisted, are it's
44:15
Speaker 1: not actually a policy, it's a direction rather than actual document.
44:19
Speaker 1: It's reminiscent I think Joe and Mia of this one
44:23
Speaker 1: liner from an Australian classic. Let's look what section of
44:29
Speaker 1: the constitution has been breached?
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Speaker 5: Section what section? There is no one section. It's just
44:40
Speaker 5: the vibe.
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Speaker 1: Miya. I'm going to go back and watch that on
44:46
Speaker 1: the weekend. It's such a great film. How does the
44:49
Speaker 1: taxpayer gets quarter of a million dollars spent on something
44:53
Speaker 1: apparently doesn't exist?
44:56
Speaker 15: Yeah, great film, Steve. Fantastic reference there. But are we
45:00
Speaker 15: really shocked the federal government has wasted more of our
45:04
Speaker 15: taxpayer funds? I certainly am not shocked. It is frustrating,
45:08
Speaker 15: and I think many Australians are frustrated by the amount
45:10
Speaker 15: of waste we are seeing from this federal government. But
45:13
Speaker 15: for me, what I think is more shocking is this ideology.
45:16
Speaker 15: This idea that we will have a separate policy for
45:19
Speaker 15: First Nations people is exactly the kind of idea that
45:23
Speaker 15: Australians fundamentally rejected when a majority voted no to the
45:27
Speaker 15: Voice to Parliament. They declined this idea that they want
45:30
Speaker 15: to continue to be divided on the basis of race.
45:33
Speaker 3: They said they wanted to be unified.
45:34
Speaker 15: Yet despite that, we have a federal labor government and
45:38
Speaker 15: state governments all around the country who seem determined to
45:41
Speaker 15: push ahead with these ideas of dividing us by race,
45:45
Speaker 15: regardless of that not being what Australians actually want.
45:50
Speaker 1: Joe, We've also got an ambassador for First Nations people,
45:53
Speaker 1: justin Muhammad. He's on four hundred thousand dollars a year.
45:56
Speaker 1: Good luck to him, it's a nice salary. He's got
45:58
Speaker 1: an office he's got ten people working for him, a
46:01
Speaker 1: budget of thirteen point six million, and he spent eight
46:04
Speaker 1: hundred thy twenty eight overseas trips. I mean, really, do
46:07
Speaker 1: we need this sort of role?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
46:09
Speaker 5: I mean I find this.
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Speaker 14: I can't really understand what the role is, to be honest.
46:13
Speaker 14: And I don't know why there would be a sort
46:15
Speaker 14: of foreign policy strategy or even a foreign policy vibe
46:18
Speaker 14: that was just for First Nations people. I mean, we
46:21
Speaker 14: saw just recently with the horrible death of the little
46:25
Speaker 14: girl and Alice Springs and the circumstances in which that arose.
46:29
Speaker 14: And again I cannot be clear on this. It is
46:31
Speaker 14: not just the one off of that horrible crime, but
46:34
Speaker 14: the entire cluster of disadvantage of substance abuse or lack
46:40
Speaker 14: of safe housing and secure housing for kids.
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Speaker 5: I've seen it firsthand. People have seen it firsthand.
46:47
Speaker 14: And yet we have, you know, these sorts of spending
46:52
Speaker 14: initiatives that make it look to the outside like in fact,
46:56
Speaker 14: this is just a sort of big imaginary wrought that
46:59
Speaker 14: all these kinds of bureaucratic elites are in on. While
47:04
Speaker 14: at the coal phase there's this horrible, horrible disadvantage and
47:08
Speaker 14: the suffering of Indigenous people in town camps and remote
47:10
Speaker 14: and regional settlements. And it's just it's unfathomable to me.
47:14
Speaker 14: I cannot join those two dits.
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Speaker 4: Me.
47:18
Speaker 1: I mean talking bureaucrats and elites. I mean, we've got
47:21
Speaker 1: a family living next door to the suburban rail loop.
47:24
Speaker 1: They just wanted to have a fair buy out. Instead
47:26
Speaker 1: they got off a temporary accommodation. But the Herald Sun
47:30
Speaker 1: reports this morning that there is a whole issue with
47:34
Speaker 1: the people who run these public service organizations. They're out
47:39
Speaker 1: there having lunches and drinks on a rooftop, and I
47:43
Speaker 1: mean it's just extraordinary public servants when they, you know,
47:47
Speaker 1: when their numbers increase, they just take a law onto
47:51
Speaker 1: their own hands and they go out and think they
47:53
Speaker 1: can spend whatever they want to spend. And it's not
47:56
Speaker 1: and it's they don't realize it's a taxpayer's money. I mean,
47:59
Speaker 1: that's extraordinary.
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Speaker 15: Well, I think what it is, Steve. It's arrogant, That's
48:05
Speaker 15: what happened. When they're out there. Then they know it's
48:07
Speaker 15: taxpayers money, they understand that, but they think there is
48:10
Speaker 15: a rule for everyone else, and then a different standard
48:13
Speaker 15: that they can hold upon themselves and They think if
48:15
Speaker 15: they can get away with it, then it doesn't matter
48:17
Speaker 15: how with how much disdain they treat taxpayer funds. And
48:21
Speaker 15: I think that is why we are seeing, oh, the
48:23
Speaker 15: rise of the number of mainstream Australians who have simply
48:25
Speaker 15: just had enough of this. I mean, the cost of
48:28
Speaker 15: living is rising, Times are tough for so many Australian families.
48:31
Speaker 6: People moment instead.
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Speaker 1: Of it really drives people absolutely. It drives people clearly crazy,
48:39
Speaker 1: and you know, someone's got to rain these people in.
48:41
Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable. Thank you Joe, Thank you Mia. Appreciate
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Speaker 1: that he might, he might coming up rounding