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SMNTY Classics: The Last of Us Special, Episode 2 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: I'll never told you a production of iHeartRadio, and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to another classic around our watch. Thing that we did
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  Speaker 1: around the Last of Us was that twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even remember. It was a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: So don't ask me questions about days. I'm still.
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  Speaker 1: It was really fun. Samantha, you were so kind and
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  Speaker 1: hosting it at your place, and we did themed meals.
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  Speaker 1: This second episode that we're doing right now that we
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  Speaker 1: are bringing back I was the one where we had
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  Speaker 1: decided we were going to do kind of a reaction
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  Speaker 1: recap episode after everyone. So the first one not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: was I thinking that when we did that, but this
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  Speaker 1: one we were. And I feel like, I'm curious to
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  Speaker 1: see what they do in season two. But I feel
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  Speaker 1: like in season one every episode was like, here's your
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  Speaker 1: emotional heartbreaker, here's your like story. Move on, here's your
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  Speaker 1: emotional heartbreaker, here's your like So it was very alternate,
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  Speaker 1: and this one was we're kind of getting to see
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  Speaker 1: all the zombies and the outside world. So yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: how they handled the the spreading of the court steps
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  Speaker 1: in it has a very good cold open and I recall.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, Last of His Day is coming up, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm I've got all my clothes laid out, all of
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  Speaker 1: my Last of Us.
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  Speaker 2: Clothes, low key cosplay.
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  Speaker 1: My low key cosplay. I'm ready to go, So please
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  Speaker 1: enjoy this classic episode.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Stefan
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  Speaker 3: Never Told You, a production of iHeartRadio, and welcome to
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  Speaker 3: our very special unsponsored by HBO.
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  Speaker 1: Max mini series. Yes, I'm outraged. I'm outraged by the whole.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like I said before, we'll make it our own.
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  Speaker 1: Then it's true. It's true you share. You were very
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  Speaker 1: supportive in this, and I love you for it. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for it.
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  Speaker 2: I gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So this is our episode two of our nine
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  Speaker 1: part episode on the Last of Us show, which is
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  Speaker 1: on HBO Max. So Samantha and I are planning on
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  Speaker 1: watching most, if not all of them together and then
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  Speaker 1: recording our reactions recapped thoughts about the episode that just aired.
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  Speaker 1: There are nine episodes, so right now we're on episode two,
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  Speaker 1: which is called Infected, so there will be spoilers for
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  Speaker 1: the first two episodes. Samantha's gonna help me rein it in. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you've miraculously avoid spoilers for the whole game, two games right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here for it. A lot of my friends have
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  Speaker 1: contacted me and said, basically like, don't talk to me
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  Speaker 1: about it, even though I have talked to them about it.
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  Speaker 2: So you do. But if you don't understand right, like
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  Speaker 2: you've never seen it, you're not going to really put
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  Speaker 2: things together. So right now that they're watching it, they
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  Speaker 2: will start putting things together.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, That's what several of my friends have said,
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  Speaker 1: including Christina, who is going on this journey with us.
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  Speaker 1: Producer Christina who is watching along and somehow didn't take
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  Speaker 1: in any of the spoilers. So I'm very happy. But
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  Speaker 1: also thanks to super producer Christina, because for these nine
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  Speaker 1: weeks that this is airing, we're going to replace my
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  Speaker 1: Happy Hours, which come out every other week, with these,
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to come out on Saturdays, so you
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  Speaker 1: can get prepared for the next episode that comes out
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday. So it's a little bit more work for Christina.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you very much. We will go
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  Speaker 1: after this is over, we'll be going back to our
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  Speaker 1: regular scheduled.
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  Speaker 2: Program May, but there's something else we're going to jump
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  Speaker 2: into We love change and we love trying anything new
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  Speaker 2: we do.
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  Speaker 1: We do And if you know listening to this, you
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  Speaker 1: have any other ideas or things we could try, just
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  Speaker 1: let us know. We are on TikTok now And one
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  Speaker 1: of the videos went up last week about the first
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  Speaker 1: episode we did. That episode was very haphazard. I think
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  Speaker 1: we decided to do it like right before. Right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so that's a little chaotic. It was a little chaotic,
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  Speaker 1: but now now we have a better idea of how
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna go. Now Samantha and I have like washed
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  Speaker 1: our faces and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, actually, uh, brush teeth, combed hair, things like that, hopefully,
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  Speaker 2: although I will say my hair, I've been trying new things.
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  Speaker 2: I watched this YouTube with an Asian creator. She's so cute.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, just do this. Lies, I can't just do this.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't happen for me. So I just look like
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  Speaker 2: I have like clown hair, a little bally. You know what,
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  Speaker 2: it's better than what it was before?
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Does it look like what she had? No, not at all,
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  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna try so to that Asian creator, You're
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  Speaker 2: so cute, but it's not as simple.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it looks you look good to.
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  Speaker 2: Me, Smath I blend in the background, so it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: It's fun. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but do you do
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  Speaker 1: You've got to sneak peak about how we normally look.
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  Speaker 2: I had my like Comfy, yeah, like lesser comfy, which
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  Speaker 2: is like a little thinner than the original Comfy. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and you were like so tired but over excited. That
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  Speaker 2: was definitely our luck. And right now you are wearing
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  Speaker 2: an ode to Lost of Us shirt, the Lost of
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  Speaker 2: Us of Us that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So this shirt I think is going to come out.
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  Speaker 1: It's an Ellie. She wears it throughout most of the
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  Speaker 1: first game. I think in the next episode we're going
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  Speaker 1: to see this shirt. But if you haven't seen it,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of a like Hawaiian style retro surf shirt.
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  Speaker 1: I usually wearing a dragon con and people recognize it.
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  Speaker 1: People do recognize it.
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  Speaker 2: It's your low key cosplay.
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  Speaker 1: I yes, as you said, and I think you're correct.
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  Speaker 1: That's been my pandemic style.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's been your style.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm also throwing an ode because one of the
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  Speaker 2: things I don't know if you can see it, one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that we do for each other for Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: We love very themed, very on point presence, and you, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I think this is the one I bought.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I you had bought a tumbler mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: That was last of us themed and then I also
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  Speaker 2: bought a tumblers to actually have you know, more tumblers
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  Speaker 2: at each other's places, and this one has the butterfly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm going to be talking about Oh, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be talking about and I'm sipping from something that
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  Speaker 1: you also gave me, which is my infamous new favorite
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  Speaker 1: wine Tumblr. So I can read fan fiction or write
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  Speaker 1: fan fiction, yeah, without spilling it hopefully.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the intent. I was like, I need,
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  Speaker 2: I need to get you a sippy cup for a bed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was saying like I would love to
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  Speaker 1: just relax in bed and do this with the wine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you, We got this. Yes, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's get into this, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. You're gonna So we
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  Speaker 1: thought we would have Samantha give yes the recap, and
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you a.
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  Speaker 2: Recap because I want to probably a little more succinct
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  Speaker 2: and less detail than you. That's what we were saying,
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  Speaker 2: like in that level, as you get so excited, and
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  Speaker 2: then you could caught up in like what's in the
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  Speaker 2: video games, which listeners I may end up trying to
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: video Annie watching an episode because it's quite delightful to
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: see her react in the moment to these episodes. I
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  Speaker 2: may have to actually record this with your permission, of course,
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  Speaker 2: but you're quite giddy. So no surprise to anyone at
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  Speaker 2: this episode was huge. Annie has a lot of predictions.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to give those predictions because most likely
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be on point since she has played
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  Speaker 2: the games, yes, and so we're not going to do
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  Speaker 2: that to you. We have predictions, actually, Annie, and have
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  Speaker 2: predictions for the finale too, and how they're gonna do
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  Speaker 2: we won't we won't tell you until after the fact.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to be that cruel. So let's do
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  Speaker 2: a quick recap before we begin. We see that Ellie, Joel,
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  Speaker 2: and Tests are in an abandoned home, very picturesque scene.
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  Speaker 2: She's lying it looks like on a meadow with a
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  Speaker 2: cute butterfly. And I have a lot of questions about
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  Speaker 2: these creatures, by the way, and how they are not infected.
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  Speaker 2: But okay, Joel and Tests have just found out that
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  Speaker 2: Ellie had been mitten but not quite infected, even though
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  Speaker 2: that little radar little detector did say she was infected,
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  Speaker 2: but she hadn't turned so they're very cautious. Little wary
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  Speaker 2: Joel wants to turn back, send her on her way.
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  Speaker 2: If they kill her, great, if they don't, doesn't matter,
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  Speaker 2: it's not up to them. Tests is like, no, this
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  Speaker 2: is about getting the car. We have a mission, we
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  Speaker 2: need a battery. We got to keep going. But Test
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  Speaker 2: is also very interested in Ellie and what she is about,
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  Speaker 2: so there's a lot of questions. She finally finds out
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  Speaker 2: the secret that Marlene is wanting her to go to
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  Speaker 2: a center, a firefly center with doctors who may be
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  Speaker 2: able to get a cure through Ellie. So big secret,
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  Speaker 2: all right, whatever what not? Here we have Tests being
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  Speaker 2: all like monotone and tough and be like this is
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  Speaker 2: about us. We all care about us. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: do what we need for us. So we'll take you there,
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  Speaker 2: but if you twitch or anything, we're taking you out essentially.
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  Speaker 2: And so they're on the way. We have the fun
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  Speaker 2: line before they leave about sandwiches and Ellie trying to
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  Speaker 2: get a gun. She'd be like, fine, I'll just throw
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  Speaker 2: a sandwich at them. Hilarious. We love it, and I've
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  Speaker 2: seen a lot of memes about oh yeah, she's definitely
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  Speaker 2: our Ellie because this kind of does track. It does
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  Speaker 2: very well.
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  Speaker 1: Tracked with it.
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  Speaker 2: Ellie of the video games, sarcastic, trying to be very tough,
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  Speaker 2: being stoic, little private, and jokey, very very joky with
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  Speaker 2: her sarcasm. We stand. So they move on and talk
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  Speaker 2: more about their past. There's a connection a little bit
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  Speaker 2: with Joel and Ellie at the hotel. And yes, I
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  Speaker 2: believe there is a hotel scene in the game. Correct,
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  Speaker 2: So this is really on point, y'all when we say
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  Speaker 2: is on point, they did a great job. So the
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  Speaker 2: hotel scene is pretty true. She gets really excited. There
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  Speaker 2: is a swim scene. She does learn to swim later
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  Speaker 2: on right spoiler ahead because of things like this where
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  Speaker 2: she says I can't swim. Of course she can't swim,
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  Speaker 2: and then Joel is a smart like jumps in and
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  Speaker 2: it's just waisted. She's like, oh yeah, like I'm supposed
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  Speaker 2: to know that.
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  Speaker 1: Very cute.
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  Speaker 2: They move on. He is portray protective of heart. We
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  Speaker 2: saw that previously because he kind of has that flashback
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  Speaker 2: with his daughter. He even protected when she jumps from
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: a corpse and he's right there helps her up, so
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  Speaker 2: you start to seeing a connection, but he's trying to
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: still be gruff and push her away. They move on
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  Speaker 2: and we have that moment where test checks it out,
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: which also in the game, so one boy that she
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  Speaker 2: They go and see all the zombies. Essentially, I'm gonna
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: call them zombies for now because at this point we
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  Speaker 2: haven't truly seen the clicker. We've heard them in an
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  Speaker 2: episode one, but we haven't seen it. And then they
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  Speaker 2: go through the museum, yes, Boston Museum with all of
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  Speaker 2: the things, and we meet the clickers, which BT dubs
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  Speaker 2: were the actual actors and the voice actors in the game.
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  Speaker 2: We love this. We love this, and the costumes are
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  Speaker 2: on point. Everything, even the battle you played this, you
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  Speaker 2: played this scene, y'all is incredible. But they make it
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  Speaker 2: out finally, after a lot of shooting, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: beating down, a lot of scariness being completely silent, and
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  Speaker 2: there is, y'all in the game you have to be
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  Speaker 2: completely silent as well. Real good, they make it out.
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  Speaker 2: But oh and they make it to the checkpoint where
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  Speaker 2: they're supposed to take La. Oh no, everyone's dead. What
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  Speaker 2: has happened because it doesn't it wasn't the clickers. Right
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  Speaker 2: at this point, we know the clickers don't do this.
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  Speaker 2: It was more violent than that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So however, oh no, they step on the what are
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  Speaker 2: the tundrils? So what we're the tendril lines which all
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  Speaker 2: communicate with all of them, so they're all linked to this,
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  Speaker 2: which is the variation from the game, and the game
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  Speaker 2: is spores, and this we have tendrils. So it alerts
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  Speaker 2: all of the zombies. They all come and all know
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  Speaker 2: all the fighting. Oh no, everything's happening and it's getting bad.
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  Speaker 2: Oh good, We're okay. And then Test has a change
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  Speaker 2: of heart because they're like, wait, this is where we
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  Speaker 2: were supposed to go and we didn't get anything we needed.
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  Speaker 2: We need to turn back all these things. And Test
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  Speaker 2: is like, no, she's our only hope. At this point,
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  Speaker 2: She's like, I will hold them off. After she's convincing Joel,
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  Speaker 2: you have to take her. You have to take her.
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  Speaker 2: This is this is what we need. And then it
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  Speaker 2: turns out, oh no, Test got bitten and by the way,
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  Speaker 2: Ellie got bit again. I think in this that did
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  Speaker 2: not happen in the game, so I was really kind
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  Speaker 2: of what just happened? That happens too, but she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: change as where Obviously, Testa's bite is infected very quickly,
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  Speaker 2: so she stays behind while she gives them a chance
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  Speaker 2: to run away a lot of sadness. Ellie wants to stay. Joel,
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  Speaker 2: Daddy Joel or Daddy Pedro Pascalis y'all want to say,
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  Speaker 2: grabs her, runs away and we see the really horrific
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  Speaker 2: scene by the way of her making out with the
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  Speaker 2: ten driled zombie turning clicker guy, and it was really horrific.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody was like, why did this have to happen? I
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: was like, why did this have to happen? And then
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: she was able to after a very tense moment with
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  Speaker 2: the lighter. Constantly, I was like, why don't you just
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: spark it? Just lay down and spark it. I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand that sparks would be enough, but whatever, I digress.
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  Speaker 2: She finally gets it, throws it, boom explodes, and next
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  Speaker 2: thing we see is Joel and Ellie are on their
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: way to Portland Sea. I don't where are they going?
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Where are they going?
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  Speaker 1: Annie? They're going to see Bill and Frank who have
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: been helped.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, said go take him to Bill and Frank, And
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  Speaker 2: we did get a preview for he did say the preview.
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  Speaker 2: You know Nick Offerman is coming into play as Bill, right, okay,
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  Speaker 2: and yes, this this this is all in part with
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  Speaker 2: the game. I forgot the beginning part which we do see.
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  Speaker 2: The scene of the beginning of the infection in Jakarta
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: with the doctor is now infamously a meme is now
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: too saying bomb bomb everything. Yeah, it is now a meme,
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  Speaker 2: which is really sad, which was shocking for all of us.
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  Speaker 2: And this scene is not a part of the game.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: So they actually pushed back even more to get the backstory,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: which we all very much enjoyed. And what's glad that
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: they did that. Yeah, So next up possibly Bill and
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Frank and more deaths, probably all just all the guests.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have. Yeah, as I said, it's a grim story.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I've had at least two friends text me like, how
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  Speaker 1: did you do this? I'm like, no, I will have
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  Speaker 1: like my non spoiler predictions at the end, I promise.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like really keeping this in mind. That was an
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  Speaker 1: excellent recaps about Okay, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I tried. I'm trying to make you proud and then
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: keep it in the scene.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes, And I also want to thank you
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: because you are very kind and half hosted these.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: We did our Lunar New Year. I was very excited
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: because even though Last of Us is not necessarily anything
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: to do with the Lunar New Year, I wanted to
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: do all the Korean traditions, and we did it. We
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: had the soup cook and I love that. So hopefully
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: we'll have good luck, including good luck with these episodes
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  Speaker 2: being heard by the right people to know that Annie
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: obviously needs a podcast about Last of Us.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously obviousviously right. Okay, so I have a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: I have a lot of things I want to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, there is something I want to do
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  Speaker 1: quick like, like I said the last episode, we didn't
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  Speaker 1: know we were going to do this. Every time you
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: probably heard like artifacts of that, so I wasn't being
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: as detailed. A couple things I wanted to point out
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  Speaker 1: very quickly. I forgot to mention that you start the
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: game playing Sarah, so imagine like how heartbreaking it was
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  Speaker 1: when you watched it, Like it's you were playing Sarah, right,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: and you don't, as I said in there, and I
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: won't spoil it anymore, but you don't always play Joel.
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  Speaker 1: You do spend most of the game playing Joel, but
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  Speaker 1: you don't always play Joel. But that was one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that was really heartbreaking. Something else that came
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: up in this second episode that the creators have mentioned
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: about what they changed between adapting it from the game
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  Speaker 1: to TV was Joel's physicality, and so he's like, kind
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: of I think he's hard of hearing in one ear.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: They have that line like they have bad knees, yes,
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  Speaker 1: at one point, So trying to be more accurate, I
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  Speaker 1: guess in that aspect of it.
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  Speaker 2: But you're definitely more realistic, right, I have a lot
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: of a and paigns and I'm not quite fifty for
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  Speaker 2: me sit.
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  Speaker 1: On my couch these days. But Joel mentions that he
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: got a hairline fracture from punching that soldier over and
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: over a game when he had that flashback about Sarah
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in the first episode. So he says he got a hairline,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and I felt like it was supposed to be kind
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: of symbolic of his leftover trauma from Sarah because there
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: is the scene where he helps Ellie up with his
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: hand and then like jerks it away because it hurts.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: He has a hairline fracture. Also, just to scare you
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: even more, Cordy Steps is a real thing. Yeah, he
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: probably that's a real You probably have seen a lot
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of articles coming out about it from scientists. It is
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: a real thing. It does. It has a history with insects,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: as they did in the first episode mentioned, So just
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: leave that there unt.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: You to have nightmares about. There you go, this could happen.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I did have a conversation with them Laura and over
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: on Savor who's very scientifically minded and she's heard me
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: talk about the game a lot, and she knows about
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Cordys Steps and she watched it. The first thing she
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: said to me was like, well, they really went for it,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: didn't they.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, that's a nightmare.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: It's so scary. There's also I realized they have. But
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: they do have a bunch of things from the second game,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: which I won't go into too much, but one of
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: them is this almarm sound that keeps coming up, and
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that is huge in the second one, So watch out
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: for that. As long as as the butterflies, moths and fireflies.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Those are big symbols and motifs as well. So you
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: scene the butterflies a lot with Sarah and now with
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Ellie as you mentioned one, and then the fireflies obviously,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and the moss I think will come in. They'll come
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: in later, but something else to look forward to. I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: did want to talk about the opening scene moving into
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: episode two now fully, I feel like they've really done
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: a great job with the cold opens, which aren't in
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the game, but they kind of establish how dire this is, right,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and so in this one, first of all, the whole
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: flower fan theory turned out to be cool, correct.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's verified through the doctor and the militarya Jakarta yes.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Which we mentioned in the previous episode. But I did
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: love that episode. I thought it was like, it was horrifying,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and when we were watching it, when they're examining the body,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: we thought it was going to like snap her mouth,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I thought, to be honest, me too, me too. I
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: liked that it didn't, and I liked the ominous like yeah,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: bomb bomb everything, and then her kind of crying and saying,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I just want to go home and be with my family. Uh.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And then I noticed in my like fifth rewatch of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: watched it so many times already. It spreads so quickly
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: because it's nine, it's September twenty fourth in Jakarta when
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: she does that, and the in the first episode with
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: what happens with Joel and Sarah, that's September twenty sixth.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, and now my birthday, which is also September twenty sixth,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: is always she literally says happy birthday, this last of
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: us day. That's just how it goes.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: The worst person in the world.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: It's quite funny. I'm like, well, you know, that's about right,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: that's about right.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it just treads so fast, like that's that's terrifying. Yeah.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And then I have a couple of themes for this
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: episode that I wanted to talk about. One is, as
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: we mentioned, I think in the first episode there wasn't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: that much of l She was introduced, but she wasn't
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: in it that much. This episode had a lot more
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of her, of her character and seeing more about her.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: As you said, she's very sarcastic, she's funny. She's kind
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: of like a dichotomy of like childish innocence and curiosity
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: but also like cursing. It has seen violence, and which
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: is throughout the game and very very spot on with
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: her character. I do think they did a really good
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: job of establishing like how important she is, perhaps better
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: than they did in the game, because in the game
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you're kind of like, oh, yeah, I mean it's important,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: but in this they're like, there's no vaccine, there's no medicine,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and then they have her like maybe she could be
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the cure for all of this, and how how horrible
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it is. So I think they did a really good
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: job with that. When she talks about how she was
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and which you'll see more of, they didn't do that
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: in the first game, but it is a good reminder
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that she was like a fourteen year old child who's
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: grown up in kind of a military school, right, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: she wanted to go see what a moll was like.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: And there are a couple of scenes throughout where she
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: gets curious about what life was like before and kind
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: of flums by it, like oh, you were going to
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: go see these movies, or you were worried about your
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: weight or all of these things and it just doesn't
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: make sense to.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Her, right. And like again, her interest in that hotel,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the whole scene of being like did you stay at
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: one of these, right, but that's a novelty and I
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: liked his the response, this is a lot of our paper,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: we couldn't afford this place, which is like, yeah, I
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: get that, but yeah, I think it's really right on
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: with our character. And I know there's a conversation about
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: bellow Ramsey being this character, but I feel like she's
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: kind of taken it on her own, but still is
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: really on point with the game. So her childlike characters,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: her anger, her stoicness, that's exactly what I remember in
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: her trying to get to know, like that whole thing
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: when she's trying to ask all the questions with Joel
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: kind of was on point with the game as well,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: because she wants to know so many things. She's trying
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: to learn some things. Her wanting a gun that was
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a whole theme throughout as well. So I feel like
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: it was really on point in getting her established as
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: this I want to be tough, but I'm very curious
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: and I'm still a.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Child right right, because she's never been outside, like she
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: said that in the first episode, and it almost like
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: gave them away because she's never been outside the Quarantine
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Zone the QZ, and so like the scenery resolved. Yes,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: as you said spot on in the game, but her
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: kind of in wonderment of these buildings that have collapsed
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: in like seeing this in this light.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And y'all when that scenery popped up, Annie and then
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the prints went, oh my god, Like that was the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: reaction of the scenery because it was so on point
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and it was so grand and it's filming and the
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: way they filmed it. But like, yes, the reaction was.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yes. So many people texted me about the museum because
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: they were like, this is exactly Oh my god, I'm
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: getting like chills. Yes, I know. Also, I'm not going
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: to say much more about this, but Ellie's knife is important.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: That probably doesn't surprise you, but her doing the little
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: tricks with her knife.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Behind the scenes. Yeah, remember, yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: A little little peak I kent. Yes, I didn't think
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it was interesting when they go through the hotel and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: all those discordant notes happened on piano when Joel and
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Ellie are trying to like connect her communicate, because I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: feel like they are He's starting to see the world
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: through her eyes a little bit, because she has a
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: couple of moments where he's just taken it back by
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: her view of like when she's like, oh, look at this,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: you can't deny this view, and he's kind of like
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: what because he.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Doesn't her he said, he's weird.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, but it's like they're trying to find
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: some common ground and connect but it's not there yet. Yes,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: which brings us to Tests.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Oh Tess tests ri ip or one out for her.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Oh oh my god. They did change her story quite
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a bit. And it's funny because I've heard, you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: gamers is going to be gamers and they're like to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: be mad about things, but people were kind of mad
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: about it. I thought it was pretty good. I like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I always liked about Tests. Unfortunately that with so many
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: characters in the in these games, you don't know them
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: for very long or you don't get to know them
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: in depth, and it doesn't that doesn't necessarily mean they
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: die or anything. It's just kind of the nature of
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the game. But I always loved about her that she
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was she was like Joel, but as you said in
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the last one, she's much more kind of like even killed,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: cool headed, responsible, And so when this thing happens with Ellie,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: she is the one in the game and in the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: show who's like, Okay, we've made this decision and kind
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: of makes an effort to maybe not bond with Ellie
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: but like get to know Ellie, like talks to her,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: answers her questions in a way that Joel does not.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Joel's very like.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Right, right, and she and she talks about the whole
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: mall scene and she's a man, you got some balls
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: on you, like that's what she says to Ellie, which
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Ellie text is a compliment obviously, yes, But that level
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: of non fear of Ellie, which is obviously changing as
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: she is growing and seeing more and more tests, admires
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: and obviously sees that as a strength for her, but
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: also sees her as a child China needing to protect her,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: right Yeah.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: And she is very protective of her. She also has
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that scene where she's like, I'm going to talk to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you like an adult, but is protective and I think
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: pretty quickly has a respect for her, like a they bond.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: They do bond, and Ellie really respected tests and tests
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: dying does not leave her quickly, which is one of
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: the things I do love about the game is like
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: those things linger, uh, you can see the trauma throughout.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: That is also a theme as a reminder.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: One of the things I do enjoy about Test's character
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: as well is that she when she realizes she's going
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: to die, she's the one that's like, this could be real,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Like this Ellie could be the cure, she could be
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the vaccine. We've done some terrible things. This might be
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: like a way for redemption or something. But she uses
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: like whereas I think Joel would very much be like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: well it's over, I give up, she was like, no,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: we have to see this through. We have to see
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: this through, and kind of offering that leadership and using
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: that like still having hope, even though from what we've
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: seen of her largely she's kind of like, yeah, we're people, Joel,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: We're not good people, right.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: She does say set things right, right.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: She does. She is more in the scene versus what
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: happens in the game. She is more like the lines
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: safe who you can save that's unique to the show.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: She's much more like, you know, we got to see
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: this as far as it can go. If you care
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: about me at all, you will do this for me,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: this last thing. And she does have like some of
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: my favorite lines that they kept in there. I like
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: how she reveals the bite and says oops. Right. This
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: also was very much change how she died versus in
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the game versus the show. It was pretty changed, and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: this was one of the things where we saw, like
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the kiss, the very disturbing kiss. That was one of
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the big things they changed was how it spreads and
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: how they communicate. So as you said, like in the game,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about like tendrils. Sometimes the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: they're called runners, the regular zombies will swarm, but that's
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: more because if they hear sound, they will come. This
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: brings us to the clickers. Of the clickers are so
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: terrifying in the game.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: There was audible screaming.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I screamed aloud the audience. I screwed aloud twice. It
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was so well done. But it's so scary. But one
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: of the most diabolical things about this game is when
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: you first meet a clicker number one. They're not easy
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to kill, and they can hear you, like if you
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: step on glass, if you move too quickly, they can
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: hear you. But runners and so called regular zombies can
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: see you. So you've got a problem because one group
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: can see you but can't hear too well. And the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: other ones can hear everything you do but can't see you.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It's strategy, you're gonna be smart, true. But they were
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: very well done. The sound was excellent, so one point
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: scary scary.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Very m it was scary, like it made me jump.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I didn't scream, but it made me jump for sure.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And the costuming was great.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: The movements of the actors were right there with the
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: movements of the game as well, like the hiding and
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the ducking and the crawling and the rolling right. Yes,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: it was as in the game when people play. M h.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: This is also why I can't play games. I don't
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: know how to do all that, Like what are these buttons?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. The scene where like Joel is like
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: trying to like hold his flashlight in between his like
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: his chin and his shoulder and he's trying to get
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the AMMO and the gun and the camera moves and
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the clickers right next to him. So good, because it's true,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: if you could be quiet, they could be right there.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: You just have to hope they don't accidentally turn your
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: way anyway. But yeah, I people were very excited about
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: it and looking forward to it. If you've played the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: game and that was one of the that's one of
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the fun things. It's like, if you haven't played it,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you don't know. They're called clickers, and I thought they
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: did such a good job of when you see Joel
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and Tessa's fear about, oh, there might be clickers in
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: this building spot on spot on. I also loved Ellie's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: kind of joking line where she's like, so there aren't
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: herege zombies that throws four packets at you, and Tessa's like, god,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I hope not, and then she says, and there aren't
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: ones that have their heads split open and can hear
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: like bats. And they go both go like woa, yes, okay.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: So in the final wrap up of this, I did
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: want to read we got some We've gotten some messages
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: about this, so thank you, you love it, and I want
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: to read this one from Steph who wrote, greetings from
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Edmonton or as you know it, post Apocalypse of Boston.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I just watched episode two of the Last of Us,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: which was partly filmed in Edmonton. I never expected the
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: city to be so recognizable. The first outdoor and scene
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: was shot in front of my current workplace. My building
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: is hidden by a pile of rubble I remember watching
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: them film it last year, and they eventually walked past
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: my old building on the way to the State House
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: aka Alberta Legislature. If you're wondering, the short way between
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: these buildings would take about ten minutes to walk. My
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: partner and I got such a kick pointing out local
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: landmarks as we watched it. If you are ever in town,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the Legislature is worth a visit. It is on the
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: bank of a river surrounded by a park. It's actually
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: beautiful when it's not covered in zombies. That's great, I
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: believe it. Yeah.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, We've had a lot of stuff filmed in Atlanta,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: and one of the fun things is to see if
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: you recognize and know exactly where they're located. I'm like, oh,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: that's that rich and that's that lane. Yep, it is
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: really so I can only imagine. Yes, yes, it did
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: look beautiful minus the zombies. Yeah, the view was lovely.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: There were so many scenes that I of course was like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: there it is it's not.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, So here's my non spoiler things to
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: look forward to. One would be the Bloater Bloaters.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: And if you watch the after scene with all of
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the directors, you may have actually understand what we're talking about.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: To my dude, Uh, now there is we're gonna get.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to be introduced to some queer
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: storylines in the next one. I think the next one
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: is going to be amazing. And I also think it's
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: going to be the biggest departure from the game actual gameplay, right,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: because that story does exist, but it's easily.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: You have to do the you have to do the extras.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I know during your playthrough with my partner, you made
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: him go through all that extra I did. Yeah, go
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: to this building and go to that building and turn
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: that note over. And by the way, in the game,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: there's an O to Supernatural Weird.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: There is, Yes, there is. But yeah, I'm, as I
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: told you, kind of like perhaps very very nerdedly. It's like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: it's been fun to watch something that I've loved and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to see it adapted so well and to have these
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: kind of new things in it where I'm like, oh,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I'm really loving, like I said, these cold opens, I'm
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: loving the changes that they did. But the acting is amazing,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the scenery is amazing, the clickers so good, so good, yeah,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: so good. Yes, So I can't I can't emphasize this enough.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: We are not sponsored by that, just to clarify once again, but.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that we don't love it, and it
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean we'll ever stop talking about it, because Annie
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: will never stop. You can't make that.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I can't. I can't stop. I have so many thoughts
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and I think the next ones. I'm so excited.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited, So get that popcorn ready.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, thanks for sharing this with me, Samantha, and love
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: it you listeners as well. As I said, I hope.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Plenty of people have written in, including Steph who said
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I've never played the game, but I enjoyed listening to
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you talk about it, and I'm enjoying the show, so
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I hope that even if you're not super into it,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: you can enjoy this a little bit. But yes, we
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: will see you next time. As I said, we'll get
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: back to regularly scheduled programming March mid March after the finale. Yes, yes,
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