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  Speaker 1: Our next guest will be there. She will be a
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  Speaker 1: part of the coverage that starts top of the hour
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  Speaker 1: nine o'clock runs to four o'clock every day of kickoff,
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  Speaker 1: ACC Kickoff here and Charlotte today, Tomorrow and Friday. She's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be busy, but she's nice enough to stop and
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  Speaker 1: chat with us here on the Mac and Bone Show.
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  Speaker 1: She is Taylor chan and Baum from the ACC Network
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  Speaker 1: in ESPN. Taylor, how was your summer and are you
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  Speaker 1: ready for football talking?
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  Speaker 2: I am so ready. Summer was great, did some traveling,
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  Speaker 2: did some hanging out. It feels like I haven't worked
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  Speaker 2: in one hundred years, so I'm ready to get back
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  Speaker 2: on the desk. And ACC kickoff is earlier than it
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  Speaker 2: has been in years past, so it feels like we're
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  Speaker 2: getting started at a much faster clip this year. But
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that. We're like double digit days
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  Speaker 2: away from kickoff and it starts week zero for this league,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm pumped.
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  Speaker 3: It's here in Miami. Is up today, Mac betched, Darien
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  Speaker 3: Mensa and Crystal Ball. How high up the list when
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  Speaker 3: you look at national title contenders? How high up the
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  Speaker 3: list do you put Miami in that group?
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  Speaker 2: I put them higher than a lot of other people
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  Speaker 2: are putting them. I think, you know, ESPN even has
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  Speaker 2: them around seven, you know, in the preseason early rankings
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  Speaker 2: of where they stand, and that's your national runner up
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  Speaker 2: who I would argue, with all due respect to Carson Beck,
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  Speaker 2: who I love and I think really exceeded expectations this
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  Speaker 2: last year. They've leveled up at quarterback with Darien Mensa.
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  Speaker 2: You have a year two Malachai Tony, who was arguably
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  Speaker 2: the best player in the country at wide receiver last year.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be a sophomore and he has help
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  Speaker 2: around him. You know. Cooper Barcade also comes from Duke
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  Speaker 2: and joins Darien Mensa, and they had an incredible relationship
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  Speaker 2: in their first year at Duke together from quarterback to
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver. I think that only translates even more this year.
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  Speaker 2: And I know, you know a lot of people will
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  Speaker 2: say they lost some dogs, especially defensively, a couple of
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  Speaker 2: first round picks on that d line and Ruben Bain
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  Speaker 2: and a key messador. But there have been dudes that
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  Speaker 2: Mario Christobal has been recruiting since twenty twenty two that
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  Speaker 2: have been waiting their turn who have been in rotations
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  Speaker 2: just haven't had these increased roles. It's sort of the
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  Speaker 2: old school way of doing it. Guys, we don't really
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  Speaker 2: see it where you can kind of stockpile talent and
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  Speaker 2: I wait your turn. But that D line has a
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  Speaker 2: ton of talent we just haven't really seen on a
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  Speaker 2: consistent basis yet. So it's going to be up to
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  Speaker 2: them to perform, right And I don't think you're going
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  Speaker 2: to have that same duo. But if you can do
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  Speaker 2: it by committee, then why not Miami? So I think
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  Speaker 2: I would put them in a top five, if not
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  Speaker 2: top two at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Taylor, we've spent a lot of time talking about Miami.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny how I used to hate on the Canes
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  Speaker 1: and now they are teaching there. I don't need to
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  Speaker 1: tell a Florida State grad that, but now all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, they are the big dog for the ACC.
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  Speaker 1: They proved themselves last year and I want to see
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  Speaker 1: them represent again. But there's been a lot of talk about, okay,
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  Speaker 1: below them, who's that next group? But I forget who
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  Speaker 1: did this. I wish I could give the proper attribution,
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  Speaker 1: but it was someone on Twitter. The covers. You know,
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  Speaker 1: a team in the league or the league or something,
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  Speaker 1: and they did that kind of tier rankings for the
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  Speaker 1: ACC and they had Miami by themselves, which I think
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. But that second tier was Louisville, Miami and Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: Would you do that? Would you go through? Would you
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  Speaker 1: go all three of them for a second tier? Would
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  Speaker 1: you put anyone else? How would you do a second
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  Speaker 1: tier at the ACC? Wait?
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  Speaker 2: Year second? So it's.
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  Speaker 1: Reammy yeah, as on their own standalone up top, and
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  Speaker 1: then the second tier all together were Louisville SMU and
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  Speaker 1: they put Clemson in there too, which I thought was
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  Speaker 1: was interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's just a respect thing too.
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  Speaker 2: And when you look at a big picture, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you were to perform, you know, in a scientific world,
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  Speaker 2: you know, or a mathematics world, like you're looking at
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  Speaker 2: data points right and a big field of data instead
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  Speaker 2: of just like an anomaly with one year, And that's
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  Speaker 2: sort of what seven and six was at Clemson. And
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  Speaker 2: you're going to see if it starts to become a trend,
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  Speaker 2: but at this point it is an outlier on a graph.
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  Speaker 2: They have fourteenth straight you know, nine win seasons. The
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  Speaker 2: seven and six is very uncharacteristic of a Davos Sweeney squad. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the landscape has certainly changed over the course of the
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  Speaker 2: last five years. Can this be the year that they
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  Speaker 2: revert back to course? They've made some changes with Chad
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  Speaker 2: Morris now back as the OC and Tom Allen in
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  Speaker 2: year two, and a lot of coaches will tell you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you have a new defensive coordinator, it
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  Speaker 2: can take a year to really implement, a couple of
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  Speaker 2: years to really implement that system and get it right.
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  Speaker 2: No question, they have the talent. Can they execute on
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  Speaker 2: the field better? And no doubt it starts up front.
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  Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher is going to talk about it today. He
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  Speaker 2: talked about it in our meeting yesterday. When Clemson was elite.
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  Speaker 2: It started in the trenches. They have the bodies, but
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  Speaker 2: what does it look like on the field? And that
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  Speaker 2: was the biggest most confusing thing last year, right guys,
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  Speaker 2: was like, we know they're talented, what's going on out there?
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  Speaker 2: So I would still keep them in the second tier
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  Speaker 2: because of a proven track record. They did go into
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  Speaker 2: the portal double digit portal editions this year, and you
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  Speaker 2: have dudes at some key positions linebacker, wide, receiver that
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  Speaker 2: can really emerge and become great as long as everyone
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  Speaker 2: plays their role.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor, what do you think about NC State entering the season.
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  Speaker 3: We know how good the quarterback is. Do you think
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  Speaker 3: there's enough around CJ. Bailey to make this a successful
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  Speaker 3: year for the back?
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 2: Now does that translate again onto the field, I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: I do think they have a schedule that can allow
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  Speaker 2: them to have some success. You know, I know Dave
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  Speaker 2: Doran would probably prefer to not have us talk about it,
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  Speaker 2: but also like they do deserve some credit. I think
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  Speaker 2: Dj Elliott obviously had been going through some things. He'll
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  Speaker 2: be better for it this year. Is back in that
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator role once again, So I just think there
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  Speaker 2: can be some growth there. CJ. Bailey's elite, and I
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  Speaker 2: do think they added some playmakers, some key playmakers. Duke
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  Speaker 2: Scott showed some real flashes at running back last year.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to have an increased role, and then a
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver. You add guys for Miami, a guy like
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  Speaker 2: Jojo Trader who CJ. Bailey played with in high school.
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  Speaker 2: Like they already have a very very proven track record together.
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  Speaker 2: So I do like what MC State has done in
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  Speaker 2: the offseason defensively or where most of my question marks
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  Speaker 2: are because it's just been such a shift over the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of seasons defensively. But I do think there's
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  Speaker 2: potential with mc State and they could teeter on that
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  Speaker 2: second third tier like it, you're gonna find out what
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  Speaker 2: they can be. But when you have a quarterback, you
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  Speaker 2: can win. And they have a CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Bailey Taylor the year two Bill Belichick, there's way less fanfare,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe that's a good Maybe that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's a good thing. Do you think will they
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  Speaker 1: be better? And the question is like, will it be
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  Speaker 1: significantly better? Do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I wish I could answer that question for you because
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  Speaker 2: this roster is a roster that quite literally it's not
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  Speaker 2: just me. Nobody knows much about it except for like
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  Speaker 2: watching film on some of these transfers. They have a
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  Speaker 2: ton of freshmen coming in ten from the ESPN three
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  Speaker 2: hundred or next three hundred, you know that are going
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  Speaker 2: to have to play important roles. So do I think
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  Speaker 2: it will be better than four and eight? It should
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  Speaker 2: be like that should not be the standard. You have,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a competition at quarterback with some players who
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  Speaker 2: have played college football before I just I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it looks like with Bobby Petrino as OC. I
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  Speaker 2: know they can put up the big numbers, but does
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  Speaker 2: that mean they win. The defense looked nothing like a
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  Speaker 2: Bill Belichick defense last year. There were mistakes, there were snaffoos.
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  Speaker 2: It was just not what you'd expect from a coach
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  Speaker 2: who was so buttoned up at the NFL. But then again,
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  Speaker 2: this is the college level. It's different. And these are young,
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  Speaker 2: talented players, sure, but that needs to be developed keyword developed.
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  Speaker 2: So what happened in this offseason with some of the
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  Speaker 2: development of these young players, I'm not sure. But I
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  Speaker 2: can't even put an expectation on it because I have
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  Speaker 2: a zero clue what this roster looks like altogether on
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  Speaker 2: a football So not even a semblance of an idea.
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  Speaker 1: That's a fair We will not We do not thrill
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  Speaker 1: you and get mad at that is fair.
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  Speaker 3: In this belgis met some of the guys yet Taylor, Many, Diaz,
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  Speaker 3: and Duke they've exceeded expectations both in his first two years.
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  Speaker 3: They've gone They've won eighteen games. They've gone above and
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  Speaker 3: beyond what we thought in both years. Can can they
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  Speaker 3: do that again? Or is this going to be a
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  Speaker 3: tough one based off what they lost and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of what they lost to Miami also playing a factory here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they lost quite a bit. And here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing on contrary to what I just talked about
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  Speaker 2: with Bill Belichick, like, they play some pretty clean football
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  Speaker 2: and Manny Diaz is going to have them buttoned up
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  Speaker 2: and ready to go. And I think that's part of
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  Speaker 2: why they've had so much success is they're good where
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  Speaker 2: like in those small margins a lot of the times.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know there were some questionable interceptions last
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  Speaker 2: year and maybe cost them a couple of games, that
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  Speaker 2: they were right in all of those if it weren't
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  Speaker 2: for some of those turnovers. I think, you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: a great coach and that's what he does best is
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  Speaker 2: getting the best out of the most talent of some
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  Speaker 2: of these players who may not be the four and
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  Speaker 2: five star recruits. So I think they will do that again.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that you would have seen them in
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  Speaker 2: the ACC Championship at seven and five without that tie
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  Speaker 2: break situation, which I think there will be potential for
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  Speaker 2: some announcement this week.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, I was going to ask about it.
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  Speaker 2: I would assume at some point they did say they've
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  Speaker 2: been talking about it and that announcement is to come.
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  Speaker 2: So it with seasons just around the corner, So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what it looks like. And they deserve credit.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they won the ACC. They beat a Virginia
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  Speaker 2: team in that championship game Farren square after playing them
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  Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks prior. I do think though,
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  Speaker 2: when you lose your quarterback and your top playmaker as
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  Speaker 2: late in the game as they did, it's tough to
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  Speaker 2: recover from. But if anybody, as a head coach king
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  Speaker 2: have his team ready to be the best that they
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  Speaker 2: can possibly be, it's going to be many das Taylor.
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  Speaker 3: How fired up are you for James Franklin and the
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  Speaker 3: ACC and Virginia Tech getting back to a level that
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  Speaker 3: they were at for so long?
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  Speaker 2: I'm fired up, I really. You know, that's one you
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  Speaker 2: can say, like, obviously it's quote unquote a rebuild, but
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  Speaker 2: you have a coach who has done this everywhere he's gone.
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  Speaker 2: You have the investment now from Virginia Tech and the
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  Speaker 2: backing and millions and millions and millions of dollars and
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  Speaker 2: resources and all the things you can possibly ask for.
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  Speaker 2: They have the sixteenth ranked quote unquote newcomer class per ESPN,
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  Speaker 2: which is transfers and freshmen coming in. James Franklin can
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  Speaker 2: get the players, and I think that they can execute
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  Speaker 2: on the field too, And it starts at the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 2: Ethan Grunkemeyer did prove some things at Penn State when
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  Speaker 2: Drew Aller went down, and it wasn't perfect, didn't always
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  Speaker 2: result in a win, but there was a ton of
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  Speaker 2: success in terms of his position and he only got
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  Speaker 2: better as the season progressed. And I think his quarterback
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  Speaker 2: coach came along with him. Obviously, the head coach is
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  Speaker 2: James Franklin, once again the guy who recruited him. So
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  Speaker 2: I think you're going to get the best out of him,
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  Speaker 2: and I have real faith in this Virginia Tech team early.
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  Speaker 2: The start is going to be so important. That's been there,
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  Speaker 2: Achilles Heal the last couple of years. Man, when you
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  Speaker 2: think they're going to start four and oh they start
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  Speaker 2: one in three or two and two and then it
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  Speaker 2: just kind of snowballed from there. That cannot be the
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  Speaker 2: case this year. But man, that energy is real. It's palpable,
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  Speaker 2: and the expectations should be high, especially in this league.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, that's huge for the conference getting a coach
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  Speaker 1: like that man, and huge for the conference. All right,
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  Speaker 1: T squared, we appreciate it. We know you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be working. You went ta square? Is either that or
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  Speaker 1: double T? I went hey are either squared? Are either
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  Speaker 1: of these nicknames? T squared or double T? Or am
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  Speaker 1: I making stuff up? No?
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  Speaker 2: T squared, I've been called plenty of times double te
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  Speaker 2: kt ta tan. It all works, age, whatever you want,
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  Speaker 2: you got.
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  Speaker 1: It, It all works. It all works, and you can
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  Speaker 1: watch whatever you call her. You can watch her on
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  Speaker 1: ACC Network nine am to four. The whole crew hunker
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  Speaker 1: down here in Charlotte ACC Media Days for the next
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  Speaker 1: three days. Taylor, thank you so much, appreciate it, have
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  Speaker 1: fun this week.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you guys.
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