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Zizian Cult Unveiled – Tying It All Together - Ep 7 · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, look at us.
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  Speaker 3: Hello.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, hey guys, it's not Thursday. Today is Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: It is Sunday. Oh who is? Let's we have? The
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  Speaker 2: dark Lord has joined us.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm too busy moving an anchor line.
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  Speaker 2: Is that one of the most people? Yes, the Sith Lord.
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  Speaker 4: Guess that's a light faber. That's called the light Saber.
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  Speaker 4: I've been studying. Oh did I not say it right?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 3: You didn't. You're completely.
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  Speaker 2: Have you been doing research, Darry?
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  Speaker 4: I have because I'm gonna learn about the war Star
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  Speaker 4: stuff before we go live so that I look edgeumicated.
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  Speaker 2: I love your War Stars so much.
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  Speaker 4: I have decided I can never call it the real
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  Speaker 4: thing because it just won't mean as much.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you ever should stick with the War Stars.
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  Speaker 2: I love it so much. Well, on, guy, note, let's
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  Speaker 2: introduce ourselves, shall we. I'll give you the floor down there.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, guys, I am Tarry true crime, and I haven't
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  Speaker 4: apologize up front. I've been drinking a lot, so just
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  Speaker 4: be prepared. Just be honest.
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy, some of those questions we had backstage.
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  Speaker 4: Can't wait for the show, okay, I have to just
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  Speaker 4: be honest, y'all are not gonna shame me. If y'all
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  Speaker 4: watched this On Thursday, JT drank multiple guinnesses I for moments.
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  Speaker 4: I asked, question, Oh, it's not it's Guinness, right Guinness?
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  Speaker 5: Anyway?
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  Speaker 4: I asked if it was because it was a dark beer,
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  Speaker 4: if it made his poop dark? What was that? A
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  Speaker 4: funny question?
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  Speaker 3: Is you got to understandop is only as dark as
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  Speaker 3: your soul, and therefore my poop can't get any darker.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, when I drink green beers, I have green
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  Speaker 4: poop for two days. So is that an odd question?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but you better start dying your your
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  Speaker 3: beer pink and sparkly.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's why I add the glitter to my beer
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  Speaker 4: because or to my wine, because when you add it,
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  Speaker 4: you douce poop sparkles.
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  Speaker 3: That was going to be.
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  Speaker 4: You will have some next weekend and you will go
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  Speaker 4: sparkles when you go home.
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  Speaker 3: I am I am the more sober one. JT and
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  Speaker 3: Uh also with us for this ride. The head lama
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  Speaker 3: shoved us on and said, let's go until we vomit
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  Speaker 3: and then let's go again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh sorry, my dinner is being made in the kitchen,
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  Speaker 2: So that's pretty noisy. On that note, I'm Lama, and
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  Speaker 2: we have a reoccurring guess here this way. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: good with the reverse pointing to people who are who
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  Speaker 2: do we got here?
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  Speaker 5: It's me Cappin.
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  Speaker 6: I'm back to finish up this saga and to talk
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  Speaker 6: about I'm here to talk about poop?
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  Speaker 5: What do we want to talk about? I love it?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I love it?
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't there any mom out there that hasn't had the
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  Speaker 4: poop conversation?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: We have it literally all the time, just with our friends.
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  Speaker 4: So okay, yes, lady and Gray, I'm aware green beer
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  Speaker 4: has died in it, But why would I eat a
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  Speaker 4: cupcake with green food coloring? I don't poop green, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's about the quantity that makes it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, those of you that don't know me, I
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  Speaker 4: am not a beer drinker, so I can guarantee you
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  Speaker 4: it is like one green beer. So once again my
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  Speaker 4: question is why do I poop green after one beer?
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  Speaker 4: But I can eat three green cupcakes and not poop green.
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  Speaker 4: It's something in the beer. It's the wheat, the barley.
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  Speaker 3: You're not irish enough to absorb.
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  Speaker 4: The de Okay, I'm not Irish at all, so okay.
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  Speaker 3: There it is.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to just shut up.
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  Speaker 7: If you haven't yet liked this video, please do because
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  Speaker 7: the YouTube gods love it and it pushes us up
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  Speaker 7: in the algorithm so other people can find this ridiculous
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  Speaker 7: conversation we're having.
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  Speaker 2: Also, be sure to subscribe and hit the notification because
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure this topic will come up again another time.
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  Speaker 2: But on that note, Tonight we dive into the last
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  Speaker 2: episode of our special investigation, Zizzy and Unfield. This multi
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  Speaker 2: part deep dive exposes the chilling truth behind a Zizzy
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  Speaker 2: and cult, a radical mix of trans vegan rationalist anarchists
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  Speaker 2: who have left a trail of bodies stretching coast to coast.
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  Speaker 2: This is, without a doubt, the most bizarre and complex
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  Speaker 2: true crime case I've ever accounted, and I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 2: for everyone else. And there are new details emerging almost daily.
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  Speaker 2: This story keeps getting wilder. But before we get into
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  Speaker 2: wrapping this all up, JT, why don't you uh or
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Terry, why don't you let us know what
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  Speaker 2: we're drinking tonight? Shall we? So people know these aren't
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  Speaker 2: sober conversations. We're having.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, I can put up the thing up front. So, guys,
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  Speaker 4: I planned on not drinking tonight, okay at all, because
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  Speaker 4: I just want to tell y'all what I've drink in
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  Speaker 4: the last twenty four hours. Last night was my bestie's
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  Speaker 4: birthday party. She may be on if you are hello,
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  Speaker 4: miss Cheryl. I had way too many strawberry margaritas. Vodka
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  Speaker 4: shapes were more strawberry margaritas. And then I finally went
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  Speaker 4: to bed at two thirty in the morning, okay, And
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  Speaker 4: then I drove back home and then I went to
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  Speaker 4: c See Wine in Company tonight as a guest for
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  Speaker 4: their Vault Society Club. I did eight different wine tastings,
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  Speaker 4: full glasses of wine. And I went there because they
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  Speaker 4: wanted me to tell them about true crime and wine
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  Speaker 4: time and we're talking about doing a live show there.
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  Speaker 4: So it was all good and they had great food too.
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  Speaker 4: So all of that just to say, I think I
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  Speaker 4: have more alcohol in my blood system than I do blood.
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  Speaker 4: So I wasn't going to drink. But then I drank
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  Speaker 4: this wine there tonight, okay, And I'm gonna we all
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  Speaker 4: know I'm not good with words. It's luda ludo vicious. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: it's a garnache, not a grunache. It's a garnache and
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  Speaker 4: I tasted it. I loved it. But the tasting notes
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  Speaker 4: are bright red berries, roses, and spice on the nose,
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  Speaker 4: so it's a juicy raspberry, cherry and pepper on the palate,
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  Speaker 4: medium tannins, and then it says it has a nice
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  Speaker 4: length to finish.
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  Speaker 2: That is fancy.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm intoxicated. But I'm intoxicated, and I apologize now
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  Speaker 4: because I am pouring me a glass now.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Can we talk about cabins By makeup and the adorable
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  Speaker 2: shirt dress she's wearing. I'm not sure which it is,
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  Speaker 2: but I love it was to be like War Stars,
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  Speaker 2: War Stars hold Off. Oh yeah, we're not going away, JT.
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  Speaker 2: What are you drinking today?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you guys always told me never to go fool ziz,
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  Speaker 3: but obviously I did in the beginning and it got
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  Speaker 3: very hot to I don't know who the hell designs
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  Speaker 3: graduation gowns, but they should be shot because obviously they're
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  Speaker 3: just bitter because they never did maybe, but they're hot
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  Speaker 3: as hell anyways, doesn't matter. I mean, what better to
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  Speaker 3: end the series for now than with something dark? Full
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  Speaker 3: bodied and basically a sith and a cup. So I've
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  Speaker 3: gone for Parkway Brewings, Ravens Roost, Baltic Porter. It's super
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  Speaker 3: easy to drink. Uh, It's got some chocolate tastes in
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  Speaker 3: it and things like that. Anyways, it's it's really easy
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  Speaker 3: to go down, unlike this story because yikes, Captain, you go.
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  Speaker 2: Lighting now? Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: So well, because there's a light switch upstairs and somebody
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  Speaker 6: has turned it off. So I just talked to them
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  Speaker 6: to say, can you please turn the light back on?
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  Speaker 2: Well? If not, you look and I think lighting.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: It was a dark, dark night and I was drinking.
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  Speaker 6: Well for all the other episodes, I said I was
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  Speaker 6: drinking to drink beer because I didn't want to get
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  Speaker 6: you drunk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Could you use your mind to make that happen in
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  Speaker 4: a text?
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  Speaker 6: If I had the force, I could have done it
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  Speaker 6: with the forest, Harry.
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  Speaker 5: But so I'm not drinking beer tonight, I said, screw it.
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  Speaker 5: Face the beer. I decided to make a picture of.
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  Speaker 6: Cocktails to drink tonight. It is a white wine sprinzer.
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  Speaker 6: So what it's not like as usual cocktail.
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  Speaker 4: That's a cocktail, honey, but it is it is.
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  Speaker 5: A champagne with crumb to violette and lime juice.
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  Speaker 6: I found the recipe on line, but the name of
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  Speaker 6: it is don't fall off.
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  Speaker 5: The roof and ruin the party.
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  Speaker 6: So I promise I can promise you at least half
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  Speaker 6: of that.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds freaking delicious.
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  Speaker 5: Our skulls, Honestly, I don't know if that, but.
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  Speaker 2: I love them. They're my favorite and their Bell's favorite too. Well.
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  Speaker 2: I know it can't be ruin a party because partying
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  Speaker 2: with Capin is always a good time based on my experience,
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  Speaker 2: and I feel like she is now one of us
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  Speaker 2: because we've all we've all been there, Capin.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, I am finishing my bottle of Yellowstone Road mescato,
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  Speaker 2: and I found a bag of wine.
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  Speaker 4: In the fridge.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure which box it's from in the last
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  Speaker 2: seven weeks. I have no idea, but we all like
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  Speaker 2: the surprises, so okay.
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  Speaker 4: My first problem is, how are you finishing a bottle
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  Speaker 4: of Yellowstone Road? Because quarks are for quitters, and you're
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  Speaker 4: not a quitter.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a quitter. But it's also a twist that's invisible.
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  Speaker 4: You've got it's a twist off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, I open this one today. I had three
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  Speaker 2: bottles since the Thursday show. The bag though apparently that
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  Speaker 2: stays fresh for a while, so it does.
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  Speaker 4: It will last thirty five days, I will tell you.
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  Speaker 4: I've pushed it to about fifty and it's been okay.
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  Speaker 2: Really because uh elbow Feet was like, hmmm, you got
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  Speaker 2: a bag of wine in the fridge. I'm like, what
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  Speaker 2: are you talking about? I would never He's like, you do.
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  Speaker 4: As long as you keep it very cold, you can
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  Speaker 4: go about fifty days. So I'm that person that takes
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  Speaker 4: it out of the box because I like to lay
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  Speaker 4: it in the refrigerator in just the bag because it
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  Speaker 4: gets colder, and then take a SHARPI and I write
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  Speaker 4: the date on it of one N.
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  Speaker 2: That's smart. That's smart. All right, Well that's what we're drinking. JT.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you want to kick off the show and
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  Speaker 2: we'll get on the ways.
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  Speaker 3: Sure. So the series involves many non binary and transgender people.
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  Speaker 3: We're not going to avoid these topics as they are
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  Speaker 3: important to the philosophy of the cult. All subjects are
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  Speaker 3: going to be introduced with their chosen name and legal name.
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  Speaker 3: For the sake of legal research. We will do our
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  Speaker 3: best to use appropriate pronouns, but know that if any
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  Speaker 3: mistakes are made, it speaks to the vast number of
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  Speaker 3: players in this case and the complicated nature of their beliefs,
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  Speaker 3: and it's in no way intended to disrespect their gender identity. Now,
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  Speaker 3: we're very proud of the respectful and inclusive CHET community
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  Speaker 3: that we've built here. Our regulars know the drill, But
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: to anyone popping in, please know that we don't tolerate
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  Speaker 3: hate speech. Statistically speaking, trans people are four times more
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  Speaker 3: likely than cisgendered people to be the victims of crime.
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  Speaker 3: We are not here to fan that fire. We are
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  Speaker 3: here to discuss how this group of bright young people
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  Speaker 3: ended up involved in multiple debts.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get into what tonight's gonna bring us,
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  Speaker 2: you guys. But before we do that, so let's recap. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So when we left off in episode six, five people
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  Speaker 2: had died, two had faked their own deaths and reappeared,
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  Speaker 2: three were in jail, and three had gone into hiding.
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  Speaker 2: For a quick recap, Jamie's aj co blogged about trolling Ziz,
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  Speaker 2: but also said that Ziz wanted them to kill their roommate,
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  Speaker 2: Alice Monday. But Alice looked away, and Jamie, for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: only got closer to Ziz. Sorry for the noise, everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's making me dinner.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, Hey, what's for dinner?
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  Speaker 2: Actually it's it's gonna be like chicken and noodle, chicken
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  Speaker 2: noodle soup kind of okay, Yeah, homemade chicken na soup too,
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  Speaker 2: So there's that. So anyway. In early January twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 2: Zajko's parents were found dead in their Pennsylvania home with
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  Speaker 2: bullet wounds in their heads. The police interviewed Zagko at
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  Speaker 2: their home in Vermont, noting that their nine millimeters Smith
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  Speaker 2: and Wesson matched the showcasings found at the crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: When Zajko returned to the Philadelphia area reporting acting suspicious,
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  Speaker 2: the police searched. Sorry, the police searched their hotel room,
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  Speaker 2: as well as one shared by Ziz and Daniel Blink.
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  Speaker 2: Found in the search was forty thousand dollars in cash
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  Speaker 2: and Zajko's gun in five boxes of ammunition. All three
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  Speaker 2: cabaliros Yeah, did I do a good job? Cabairos Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: were detained, but only Ziz was charged. Eventually, the issue
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  Speaker 2: was released into her most mother's custody and did wish
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  Speaker 2: she does best and proceeded not to show up for court.
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  Speaker 2: Every week we've tripped away at this bizarre tale, one
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  Speaker 2: story at a time. This week we'll be telling the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the story and looking at the bigger picture.
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  Speaker 2: Are you guys ready for this? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean no, I have better just say I know
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  Speaker 4: the story and no I'm not. And that's why I
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  Speaker 4: decided to just keep drinking and not go for water.
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  Speaker 4: I just can't with these people. So I love that
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  Speaker 4: our series comes full circle to the Border Patrol shootout
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  Speaker 4: on January twentieth, twenty twenty five. Okay, it was instigated
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  Speaker 4: by Teresa Youngblood in Ophilia Bock Colt. How did I
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  Speaker 4: do with saying that? Guys? Did I get Buck Colt
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  Speaker 4: this time?
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  Speaker 2: You did so well?
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  Speaker 3: Good job?
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  Speaker 4: Thank you because I'm not good with names, so which
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  Speaker 4: hopefully you'll recall because we discussed it in our first episode.
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  Speaker 4: That conflict resulted in the death of Backholt and Border
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  Speaker 4: Patrol officer David Miland. Now a week later, young Blood
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  Speaker 4: appeared in federal court in Burlington, Vermont, arm in a
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  Speaker 4: sling from injury sustained in the shooting. Now they were
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  Speaker 4: charged with intentional use of a deadly weapon while forcibly
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  Speaker 4: assaulting a federal law enforcement officer, which you never want
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  Speaker 4: to do, and with discharging a firearm during an assault
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  Speaker 4: with a deadly whipping, deadly whipping, deadly weapon not the
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  Speaker 4: death of either Miland or black Colt.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and so like on the first episode, we had
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  Speaker 2: talked about why young Blood and young Blood was not
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  Speaker 2: charged with the murders of Bachholt and Milan, and at
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  Speaker 2: that time in the first episode, I believe that, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand why, because this could be considered felonious murder. Right,
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, I saw some notes, and so
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  Speaker 2: I did some further research because it has been bothering
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  Speaker 2: me a lot. Well, young Blood, it's because well this
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  Speaker 2: is my interpretation, so we'll see. But young Blood is
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  Speaker 2: facing federal charges and they do have felonious murder. However,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like according to Cornell's Laws website, and my
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  Speaker 2: interpretation of what they're saying is that because the felony
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  Speaker 2: in this case is whipping out a gun and shooting
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  Speaker 2: it where the end result most likely leads to death,
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  Speaker 2: then felonious murder doesn't apply. Right, because normally it applies
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  Speaker 2: like kidnapping robbery, where the likelihood of death doesn't really
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  Speaker 2: go hand in hand. But I suppose depending on the
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  Speaker 2: investigation evidence we'll see there could be possible murder charges.
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  Speaker 2: But I do see why it's taking a long time
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  Speaker 2: now since that's not option. So I'd like to correct
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  Speaker 2: some of our stuff we're talking about in the first
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  Speaker 2: episode there.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 6: Speaking of evidence, an arrest affidavit signed by FBI agent
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  Speaker 6: Leah Bodnovich gave more details of the shootout. She stated
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  Speaker 6: that three Border patrol vehicles and multiple uniformed officers stop
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  Speaker 6: young Blood and Bachholt over what they thought to be
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  Speaker 6: an expired visa, which has since been shown to not
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  Speaker 6: be expired, so it's possible a computer glitch caused this,
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  Speaker 6: like unfriendly AI. Young Blood allegedly fired upon the officers
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  Speaker 6: fairly immediately, while Bockholt was said to reach for her
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  Speaker 6: own weapon and an officer returned fire.
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  Speaker 2: So I have a little bit of a tenfoil hat
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  Speaker 2: faery here, so like, because we know that young Blood
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  Speaker 2: and Bacole were surveiled for like a whole week and
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  Speaker 2: then they conveniently get pulled over when it seems like
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  Speaker 2: they were leaving town and there's visa issues, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I but wonder like was this illegal traffic stop? Like
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's why young Blood hasn't been charged in regards
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  Speaker 2: to the deaths of Milan and Bacolor. Or maybe I've
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  Speaker 2: been watching too much Canry trial. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 2: it causes me some eyebrow raises.
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  Speaker 4: Girl, same, same, same. I mean, if that was not
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  Speaker 4: a legal traffic stop, that's gonna change a lot of things,
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  Speaker 4: because the best of my knowledge nowhere have up until
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  Speaker 4: recently looked in a database to see that someone might
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  Speaker 4: have an expired visa and decide to surveil them and
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  Speaker 4: stop them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I don't go with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: their crazy crackpot theories Esisians, but this one, I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know. If this is a theory of theirs, this
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  Speaker 2: is a theory of mine. Yeah that I have some
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  Speaker 2: questions about this stop.
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  Speaker 4: But I am part of the Lama cult, so I'm
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  Speaker 4: with you, cult leader, Lama, bless you.
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  Speaker 5: I was.
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  Speaker 6: I was kind of thinking that uh, so many people
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: were shooting that maybe that's part of why the charges
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: hadn't hit yet. Where that APPI David just says the
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: exchange of gunfire resulted in Mail and young Blutt and
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: back Polt sustaining gunshot wounds. So it's a little vague,
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: but I think that's understandable in a situation with that
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: many officers with Yeah, at.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Least, I think that's exactly what I was thinking. So
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: what it seems like here is it's kind of like
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a two v two shark speed jets. Moment, I am
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: up to date on my jazz dancing, so dance battle anyway, No,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: all right, Oh cool?
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I mean if only we had more dance, if only
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: the Cizians had more dance battles, we would have been here.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's what they were missing.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Can help it. When you're a jet, you're a jet
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: all the way, Captain.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: So, not only did the affadavit describe the shootout and
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: the evidence obtained from the prius, it included a line
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: that alluded to the larger story. Because this affidavit is
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: being submitted for the limited purpose of establishing probable cause,
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: it does not include all the facts that I have
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: learned during the course of the investigation. So to further
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: solidify that the FBI is starting to connect the dots
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: at young bloods hearing, US attorney Matthew Dresher filed emotion
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: for detention, stating the defendants escalation of a peaceful law
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: enforcement interaction into a deadly con confrontation alone underscores the
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: danger to the community. Her associations with other individuals suspected
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: of violent acts also warrants caution.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: I would have thought that assault with a deadly.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Weapon would be enough of a reason to detain someone.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, basically, but this is a bit you ain't
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: getting out of jail? Card is what is? She ain't leaving.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Nobody's getting bail, but she is staying yeah, yeah, which
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: makes the motion.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: The motion called out Jamie's Achko, who they found to
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: have purchased the guns used by Young, Blut and Backholt
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: in the shootout in Vermont the February of the previous year,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: when they were a person of interest in a double homicide.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: The motion also casually mentioned that Ophelia Bachholt had flown
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: into the country just hours before the zog Co murders,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and alluded to Ziz as another dangerous connection, having been
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: detained after both the first attack on LND and this, Oh,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: excuse me, this dodg Co murder now kind of interesting.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Do we have any reason to believe Bachholt was involved
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: in the zoch Co murders? I mean, I haven't seen
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: any evidence of it, and no one's been charged.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: No, I mean.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I've seen this statement around as well, that bac Kolt
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: flew from Germany to the States that night. But like,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: where exactly Bacolt flew into that day, I know where
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to be seen. I'm assuming that maybe it's somewhere close
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: since everyone keeps bringing it up, But it is kind
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: of where that nobody said exactly where bach Holt flew
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: in that night. So but it does seem like possibly,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know, do I After what we know of
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Apeelure though, that doesn't seem to jive with her. But
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: you know, all these people surprise us, so yeah, what
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: do we know?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, there's one theme, it's surprise, and it's usually coming
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: out of the back of a box truck. But overall yeah, right, uh,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: actually it's usually coming out from underneath the box truck.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I've forgotten how they leave it.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: That's their door.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: We know, we do know. Here's what we do know.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: We know that someone other than Jamie showed up to
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: the Zajko's home on the night they were shot. It's
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: on unreleased ring camera footage. Thus far, that makes Jamie,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Blank and Bacholt all confirmed to be persons of interest
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: in that double homicide, which is not really something you
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: want to be on the VIP list for MM.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: My only question is if it's unreleased ring camera footage,
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I'm going to just say with this group and everything
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: be speculative in my opinion, how do we know there's
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: really ring camera videos?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, because the police have said so, okay, like it's
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: been reported like that, that evidence the ring camera has
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: been like reported on, but nobody's seen it, right, so
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: we don't know exactly what it sounds and look like
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: we're taking the word of law enforcement, which if you've
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: watched the Karen Karen Retrol, may not be a good idea,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: but it has been reported on a lot. It was
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: one of the very few, very few things they've put
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: out about the zage Co murder because there is next
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to nothing nothing.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to say that the bestie showed up,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: the one who I celebrated her birthday party last night,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: and I drank we too much and why I have
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: more alcohol in my system than I do blood. So
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: I'm glad to know that she is still alive because
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: she more than me.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Happy birthday. I can't sing
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the song because they'll probably get it's in trouble. It's birthday.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: You can do it now.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Oh I don't know.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she doesn't like to be the center of attention,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: so that's not because she will kill me. She's come
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: into our live show in person next weekend. JT. Maybe
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: we should do it then make her come up on
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: stage with the tiara and a banner. I'm kidding, Cheryl,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: just kidding. I love you.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I just got afication that a ticket was refunded, and.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, guys, Cheryl just reminded me, I also
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: drank three cosmos last night.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, how are you fun?
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: That is why I feel like shit?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: That's that's the one reason.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And reason.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: How did I forget? I had three cosmos too.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I think the Margarita's helped with your forgetting. But look
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: at that. We're going to have whatever on True Crime
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and wine time or I need a trial.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: To get into this case tonight, because guys, this case
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: still just makes my head spin. So I am going
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: to blame it on that I drank so much so
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: that we could be on camera tonight. I love that.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Thank you Terry for taking it for the team. Now anyway,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: now that the FBI has linked these cases together, they
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: moved quickly to search those airbnbs in Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I may have given myself this section and not Terry
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: for a reason. Yes, we love you, Terry.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: What is wrong with Chappelle?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Nothing?
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's you know, I've been there and I
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: have friends that live there. Jessica, if you're watching, because
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: you know I watch us on replay. I said Chappelle
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: way back then, and she told me I was the
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: perfect bougie friend.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: You are the perfect I because I say, she's not wrong.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: You're my only Annie, one of our Carolinans. Anyway, you guys,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: prepare yourself for what we're about to tell you. Okay. So,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: in the early morning of February fifth, the residence of
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: a wooded neighborhood to the south of Chapel Hill awoke
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: to loud bangs and bullhorns. Dozens of federal agents and
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: sheriff officers strategically moved through the area entering two homes.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: The airbnb is rented by Jungbla and Bakot. Some of
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: the officers wore uniforms reading Evidence Recovery Team. Oh my,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: look at you Evidence officers helou. The Chatham County Sheriff's
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Office confirmed that they were only assisting the FBI in
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the search. It is yet to be confirmed that they
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: found anything of interest or if they had a go
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: in mind. But in April New York magazine article has
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: this interesting passage you guys, Oh my gosh. I read
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: this and I was like, oh what this?
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay. So photos taken later show empty boxes of
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: ammunition and containers of soilent and supplements. A book about
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the Sandon Oh I was seing these pictures. Okay, it's
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: made out of people. A book about the Scandinavian resistant
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: movements during World War Two, with detailed descriptions of how
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: they poisoned their occupier's water supply, large tanks of argone
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: gas and a cutting device. There were boxes of surgical mask,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: a black metal face mask whatever that means, receipts from
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: chemical supply companies, and a respirator, along with an order
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: slip for a surgical device called a runger used for
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: cutting small bits of bone.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: So I had to do some googling here and I
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: found that argon gas is not poisonous. If added to
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: the water, it can be dangerous have been hailed. It
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: can cause asphyxiation, but in smaller amounts it can cause
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: memory loss and cognitive issues, which is interesting in this
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: group that's doing all these weird mental experiments. But it's
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: also used to control bleeding in some medical procedures.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: And now Captain's officially on every list known and unknown,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: although I have a feeling we all are at this
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: point totally.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: I've done ben right.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: And there was that stretcher found there too when we
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: talked about it in the first episode, like what in
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the hell are they doing with all this stuff? I
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: spend an unhealthy amount of time thinking about it. I
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: will be honest with that. I spend too much time
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: thinking about these people.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: But oh girl, what same because it freaks me out.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I didn't freak out until we got to the medical
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: device to cut up small bone parts. Yeah, no, once
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: that happened, Why do you need that?
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Why don't I don't know, I mean it, it all
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: seems like a means to different ends depending on how
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: things go, kind of like a cult preparing for the end.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: It just like that would require some thinking ahead, which
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem like they do much of that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: I really thought jay Z would take that opportunity to
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: make a joke about noble gas.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I just can't. I can't seem to make a joke,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: especially about what you mentioned above being I mean, it's
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: sad because all of their friends are gone.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: We're our joke, our gune.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: The thing that I found interesting they are smart people.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: How did they not know that if you put that
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: gas in the water, it wasn't gonna work.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I read it in a book.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: Well, I was trying to I was knowing that they
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: were researching poisoning a water supply.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: I was like, is that something they can do that with?
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: And it's not. But there's other things they could do
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: with it.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, weird. I didn't even know the Scandinavians like had
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to resistance during World War Two. It makes sense, I just.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I don't think we've learned that in Texas because we're
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: more focused on Texas history in Texas than we are
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: about the world.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: You're right, screw World War Two.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Who gives a shit?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Right, So we have the Alamo bitches, we got them.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: What do we need you for?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I've learned that. And not even my dad left at
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: My dad jokes because he was here. And I have
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: never felt so inadequate in my life. So I got
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: to work on those kind of a lot.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I'm going to just grab my glass and say, well.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: The FBI got an unexpected break in their case on Sunday,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: February sixteenth, when a resident of Frosburg, Maryland called the
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: local police around three point thirty pm to report two
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: white box trucks with chains on their tires. I just
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: mentioned chains in a previous episode and y'all thought that
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: was weird. But anyway, chains on their tires, trespassing on
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: his property. Three people had asked the owner to let
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: him camp at this site. So this is this person's
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: private property and they asked to camp there for a month.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: In a surprise, I don't think to anyone the landowner
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: said no, thank you, go away. I mean, let's just
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: be honest.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I have two things to say about this actually, One,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: why do they have chains on their tires? Like you
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: don't snow? Chains very often on s Gt.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Do you have there was a white snow squall with
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: high winds that day.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but to put them on and off like you
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: keep You keep snow chains on for like a season,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: don't you. No, they can take them on and off.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: It was trial. It was the Karen Read trial that
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: we talked about this. That I asked and I got
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: reminded that when we lived in Vegas and we would
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: go up to Mount Charleston and it would snow up there,
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: but not down in the valley. You put on the
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: snow chains to go up there, and then when you
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: came down and the snow's gone, you take them off.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, we don't like a condom.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: You put it on when you need it and you
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: take it off when you're done.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: We don't really we get enough weather to like get snowsham.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, we get snow and ship, but like not
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: don't you have snow tire?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: The buildings thing tells me you might need to use them.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Looking so that's a fair point. I don't know somebody
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: snow tires anymore.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: No, they have them over in Finland.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because they're much higher north than that makes sense.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: But we don't get as much severe snow and weather
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: in Ohio like we used to so I remember being
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: a kid and people used to talk about snowtires. But
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know a single damn person in Ohio I
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: get snow tires.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I have never been to.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, thank you all for educating me about snow tires.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Will we eat snow tires in July when we come
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: for the live show.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Him in January?
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: No, okay, I'm good.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: No, But you know, back to this landlord guy Ray,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine what this guy must be thinking now
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: if he found out who they all were and like
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: what happened to Curtis Land? Could you imagine being like what.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Come again? Like I, I honestly can't imagine what the
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: guy was thinking in general, like not only for him
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: to see these people on his steps and his property,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: but then also to have them like treat his no
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: as like a challenge to accept, Like you might be
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: able to do that in California, but certainly not in
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: North Carolina because if you say challenge accepted, it will
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: be met with a so go away, like don't stick around.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't do that now, because we all know
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: I like to be me.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: Because it's Maryland, because we're I'm just try I I
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: didn't catch that earlier.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: In Maryland or North Carolina. Oh, because we were.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Talking about Maryland. Check your phone while you're driving in Maryland.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: There's a stage.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Wine and Amos says, I'm having sympathy drunkenness.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: I can't spell, or type or control a mouse. Tonight,
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: we're poisoning the water supply. So true, with our drunkenness are.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Gone, double H is going to be holding my hair later.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: So now, because speaking of double H, if this group
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: would have just reread Gwenn's slack mobile blog, she literally
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: tells them where you can park to stay off the radar. Okay,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: and I don't think it said private property in small
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: mountain towns that it didn't make the list guys. So anyway,
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: the property owner in Frosburg found the truck owners to
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: be so off putting they called the police. And I'm
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: going to just say they were not off putting. Their
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: crazy radar went off. They were like, these people be.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Great, right, and no one ever listens to our dragon
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Queen Gwyn Gwenn. By the way, if you're out there,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: you still have an email media, please do okay, Tara
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: at media dot com.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Thanks and Gwenn. If you're only on social media and
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: you don't do email, Tara's not on email, but I'm
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: not on social but you can and find Terry True
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Crime Everywhere or dcw T because we would love to
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: meet you, I know.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Anyway, listen, call the police because it's better to say
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: something when you see something. Also, what what Tara said when.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: You kt I think you just said the statement that
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: to just define everything if you see something, just say something.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Says is actually this actually more?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: So let's do that.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: And now you know why I say I am part
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: of Lama's cult. I do what I'm told.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I was part of a cult once zero out of
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: ten stars, do not recommend.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Excuse me, young lady. You are part of the Pinky
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: cult and that is a fact and you cannot change.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: We are a cult. I didn't say the pink cost
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: part of Michael. Now you're part of my cult and
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: we are a subcult of the Lamba cult.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Everybody is personality.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the story. Cabin is that we
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: were in North Carolina. Cabin, we're in Maryland.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: I don't want to be in Maryland, Maryland.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: It looks like a really lovely scenic place. Verry like, uh,
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: it's a wonderful life vibes. So when when stage trooper
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: Brandon Jeffries approached the box trucks, Daniel Blank was sitting
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: in the passenger seat of one of them and asked
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: to raise his hands, Blank advised that he had a
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: learning disability and did not understand what Jeffreys was. Now,
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: we do know that Blank's mother described him as mildly autistic,
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: but now might be a good time to remind you
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: that Blank has a double major in bioengineering and computer
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: science from UC Berkeley.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: It's pretty likely.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: That he knew what he was being asked, especially since
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: he was fluent in at least three languages.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, sir, I don't have any of those degrees compared
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: to that group and only speak two languages, English and sarcasm.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: And I'm going to just say I may not be
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: as smart of them, but even I know what they
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: were asking of. Yeah right, Oh goodness, he expreca English.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Niecks. Uh, not to be outdone, Ziz and Captain look
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: very surprised by that. Uh this and Jamie's sashko uh
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: We're found in the back of the other truck. You
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: guessed it, dressed in all black and strapped with ammunition
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: like a Star Wars Mad Max crossover cosplay. Jefferies ordered
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: them out of the truck, but, as he reported, they
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: complained that quote they were being told too many commands
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: and were not cooperating. He also wrote that the female
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: was crying, saying not to kill her. Jamie seems to
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: have picked up some tricks from SiZ because they refused
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: to put their hands behind their back and had to
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: quote be taken down to the ground by the officer,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: who found a sig Sour handgun in their waistband. At
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: least two other guns were noted in the officer's right up,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: a rifle and another handgun. All three amigos repeatedly refused
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: to give their name. It's like you, I like, I
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: got that on purpose give their names when asked, but
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: were later identified by FBI photos. I tried to please.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: You're fired. It is War Stars. It is not Stars
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: war It is War Stars. Okay, get it right, Get
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: it right.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, somebody to finish what I.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Just heard somebody behind me laugh, And I'm guessing that's
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: the Peanut Gallery.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Oh those tears coming on Jamie's blink anyway, So Zajko, Blink,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: and le Sota were charged with trespassing on private property
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: and obstructing, obstructing and hindering a police officer, and zaj
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Co Andlesota were also charged with misdemeanor firearm possession charges.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Zajko was additionally charged with resisting or interfering with arrest.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: The three were booked into the Allegheny County Detention Center.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: The only real surprise here is that Ziz didn't play
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: dead again, which.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Is well, listen, obviously didn't see over the hedge, or
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: she would have learned all of how to play dead.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: But like, you really need to come up with a
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: running list of charges and states. I can't believe how
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: many they like. It's like a CVS receipt, you know,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: it just keeps going.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Right. They are everywhere anyway. So two days later, on
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: February eighteenth, the three Stouges appeared via video for their
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: bail hearing. For fu sake, Judge Eric with an h
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: at the end bean any relation to mister Bean, we
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: don't know, ordered a yes, ordered all three bail. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: hope this is exactly what the judge did anyway, describing
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: so he ordered all three to be held without bail,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: describing them as dangerous flight risk. Oh my gosh, should
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: he hear about this faking her own debt? Is maybe
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: that why?
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know?
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe all the missing court things. I don't know anyway,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: While Blank and zaje Co generally stayed quiet and replied
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: with yes and no answers like a reasonable human being,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: you know who really didn't play dead our girls, who,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: apparently as soon as her video stream went live, started
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: begging for vegan food. Quote, I might start to death.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I need I need the jail to have a vegan diet.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: It's more important than this hearing is. I'm super glad
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that says A stopped her dramatics.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, I am just gonna have to say, you just
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: gave a run for her money for be an ire
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: enactment girl, and Amy, can you clip that and make
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: a short out of it please, because that is something
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I need to see again and again.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: You need to see it more and more.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, And I'm gonna just tell y'all this should just
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: hope that no one is spitting into her food. She
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: is in prison or jail. But right now, but I
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: mean you're I mean, just eat the pasta and vegetables.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Girl, I mean I get it, But like also, now
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: is not the time. Now is not the freaking time.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: It should be the least of your concerns. You are
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: sitting in freaking jail. Not a good time.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: Okay. Do you think she's flicking mister Bean while she's
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: in jail? Never mind, Just.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I got the answer for you, Terry.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Didn't I did? I just say that outlied?
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was hilarious. Don't take it back. We're going
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: to clip that ship too, Terry. Anyway, where were we? Oh? Here?
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, captain, just come on, just just shut me down.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: Judge Bean shut her down, but he did let her
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: speak later in the hearing when it was appropriate.
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: To do so.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Ziz continued to complain about hunger, saying that she had
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: fasted for over a month during her stay in Pennsylvania
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: jail and that she was already in a mild state
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: of delirium due to lack of.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Food from the I doubt that piles.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Oh god, it's always something with her. Sufferable.
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: She also told the judge that she didn't belong in jail,
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: saying I haven't done anything wrong, which is just okay
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: what you're done, right, Trespassing a weapons charges aren't as
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: serious as all of the murders your friends have been
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: doing allegedly. But come on, girl, I think if you
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: didn't belong in jail, you might have shown up for
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: some of those miscourt dates and not paid your own death.
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: But whatever you say, babe, I.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Agree with you now, and I am gonna I guys,
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: I'm just still in shock by me saying that out loud,
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: but okay, unfortunately I'm not that speechless, so unfortunately Jamie, Jesco,
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Jess Zeshko. Anyway, as they face the judge in Maryland,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: a separate criminal complaint was being filed for the illegal
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: purchase of the firearms used in the Vermae shootout. Now
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: ATF Task four special Agent James F. Loomis fouled an
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: affidavit recapping details of that fatal shooting and sharing the
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: findings of his tracing of the weapons involved. Apparently they
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: had been part of a three gun purchase by Zeschko
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: on Valentine's Day twenty four. Why do these people have
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: to go and make this kind of purchase on my
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: day of love. Okay, guys, that is a crime in
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: itself and she deserves the death penalty for that.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, I can't.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, visuals.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: No, I did not look either. I love it. Good job.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Nope, that's just oh, that's not what I was laughing
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: at at all.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Harry wasn't like, but why aren't the guns pinky gies?
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: You shouldes?
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: And hearts you should not. It's Valentine's Day, come on,
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: come on anyway, So just so you know, this is
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: not the best way to handle being single on Valentine's Day, Okay,
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: just go get a couple of pints of some chocolate
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: monkey ice cream, a couple of bottles of wine, and
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: you will feel much better and just get through it.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: You do not go buy guns, okay. But the third
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: gun purchase was a Ruger LCP and it was a
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: twenty two l R. Now it has not yet been
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: recovered by authorities. Now the sixth hour, which I say,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: I think is what I own, was found on Jane
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: during the Maryland arrest, and it was purchased the day
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: before the other guns. So, guys, the night before you're
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: supposed to be buying flowers, chocolates, jewelry.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks, cap.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Not a gun. And then next day, don't go buy
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: three more guns? Okay, all four purchases made at the
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: same shop in Mount Tabor, Vermont, used the address of
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: the cabin Jamie shared with Alice Monday, and then blank.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Now that cabin had been abandoned and sold over a
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: year previously.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'll be brief, but like some gun control
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: laws could be cool, maybe not cap'n.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: But you know, you know that's specifically not true. How
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: else would we arm bears? I think that's how it goes.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: I think, well, I don't want to bore y'all with
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: my thoughts on gun control, but I've mentioned this on
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: a previous episode. Here in Texas, you can now buy
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: bullets for your gun twenty four to seven out of
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: a bullet vending machine. So at three am, if you're
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: pissed off at somebody and you don't have any bullets,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: you just run down to the local vending machine, buy
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: your bullets, and you're good to go.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Wow, like those red movies or whatever they're called.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: That's cool, great, captain, she said, And I think I
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: have this right. Gun control loss it's gonna be cool maybe.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, I live in Texas and I'm okay with
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: people having guns, but we still need laws. Just like
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: it's okay to drink, but you don't drive after drinking,
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: so laws are not a bad thing.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: You're about.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Massachusetts, that's all right. Even the cops get drunk and drive.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: It's fine everybody.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Again, I really liked you stay in Massachusetts.
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: Massachusetts. I don't know, I'm not great. I like a
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: Boston accent.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: I just heard five pronunciations of Massachusetts in like five seconds.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: And I don't know what to do with this at all.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Crazy. You had a wrangular injury, but we're out of it,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting? I just put it together that Jamie
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: bought all of their guns in the month of February,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Like when we learned about uh Zizz asking her them
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: to kill Alice blah blah blah blah. That is when
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: she bought the gun. They bought the gun that police
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: believed was the gun use in their parents murder. And
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: then here she is they are after this, buying more
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: guns in the month February. What is Jamie's deal with
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: being like, I need guns in February in your mind's crazy.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: It's weird.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: It's weird. I don't know. I would like everyone to
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: write there, just slaters. I would like to say that
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: you cannot buy any firearms during Love month. It's our
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: shortest month of the year. They could restock, they could
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: do paperwork.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: But we shouldn't.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: I love that we shouldn't sell guns during love month because, unfortunately,
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: on a serious note, love month is also a high
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: domestic violence month. So it makes sense on both sides,
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: good and bad. Let's just let's just take a break,
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: kind of like lnt for guns, but we do it
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: during the month of February.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I want to live in Terry's world.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: The fact that we please even have to have a
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: lent for guns is an issue. But let's keep let's
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: keep going on, please.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: We will, Okay, so let's keep going now.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Just so you know, they have license plate readers in
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: case nobody knew that they had this thing. So the
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: license plate readers in New York read the plate number
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: of Aphilia Buck Colts Prius heading north on February thirteenth,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty four in South three days later, presumably to
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: pick up the weapons.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Again on your love day. I want to live in
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Terry's world. Continue on, please us on more JT.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the three muskrat Teers, which is very It's
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: a lot harder to say. I had to say it
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: out loud. I confused. My children earlier have been sitting
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: in Maryland jail since that bail hearing. Everyone else in
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: our cast is either dead or missing. But just last
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: week we were gifted a little gem when the Associated
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Press shared a few snippets of a twenty page letter
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Jamie Zashko wrote on March ninth, kind.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Of quoting for this to happen?
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Yes, are you insulting the real three Musketeers?
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: Well, these are the muscle rat Terry. What'd you say?
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Aren't they fictional?
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: The Three Musketeers or nothing?
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fictional story.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: No it is not, Tonny, come live in my world.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, I commit. I'm joining Terry's world in cult apparently,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: where the Three Musketeers are real people.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Man, you thought glitter was a problem, now.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Literally poop and everything. I mean, what other cult guarantees
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: you glittery poop nine nine true?
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know, all right, anyway, I don't have anything
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: smart to say to that, So I'm not gonna say
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: it at all. We weren't happy with a few snippets
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: because you know how Lamad and the rest of the staff,
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: so we saw it out the full version and basically
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: having to read another blog. So well. Disclosure this has
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: not been verified with the AP. Came straight from the
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Ninth Circle of Hell aka a little site called x
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: which aspires to be the tenth Circle of Hell. So
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: there are a few more Nazis away. Anyways, it's consistent
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: with what the AP has published and with a lot
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: of the tom foolery we've already read on numerous blogs.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: A journalist point posted this image of the beginning of
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: the handwritten letter that matches the file. So we feel
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: pretty good about thinking this is it.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Guys, look at that.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: I just googled the Three Musketeers. They're not real.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, god, that is brand new information. Terry,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: what so seriously, But oh my god, I love your
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: fictional novel. Yeah it is.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: I love you. The funny part is she was watching
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: the Disney version two.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I'm clipping the ship out of this. I love you, Terry.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I can't continue with It's okay, the world has lied
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: to you. It's fine. It's fine. You're so pretty, Terry,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: you are so well.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: It's safe to say that they are not offended by
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: the muskrat tears. Now, so I feel okay.
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: My parents lied to me my whole life.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: What just happen?
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Who gave ap Amy the keys to the car?
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: I love ap Amy and Amy? Could you make a
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: site note for us to talk about all the other
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: things in my life? I'm now questioning that I was
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: lied to about.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: Harry Potter.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Nancy Drew is she either no, she's not real either?
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Or the Hardy Boys. I'm sorry Tom Hardy.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: For Nancy Grace, because holy ship.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: Hold on. Tom Hardy is real. He is in that
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: new Mobleyan show. Tom m Hardy is one of the
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: Hardy Boys. He is an actor, and so is Steve.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Hard Nor Brothers.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Double we broke Terry's brain tonight already are not real?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: We broke Terry's brain?
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: What do you mean.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: He's not a Hardy boy? Oh my god, We're not
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: even gonna go there, Sam. We cannot introduce her to
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: the Mendula Show.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: Sam, how old do you think Tom Hardy is?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: I thought it was like a junior or something.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: You're so pretty, Arry, I'd hate.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: To see what you think about Pete's dragon.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, I obviously need to dream more. All are ruining
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: my life?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: No, no, are you.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: Telling me.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: On the level on Thursday?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: So nope, I love it. Okay, back to the story,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: we have d freakin' railed. Now we know the truth
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: about the three muskrat tears. Anyway, So back this letter
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: that Jamie's sage co wrote you guys. Okay, I'm pretty
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: sure that this is the actual letter because I read
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: the whole thing and it is very on brand to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Jamie's writing in their blogs. I'm fine with saying, yeah,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: this seems pretty legit. Okay. So there is a lot
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: to cover here, so we'll try to be brief. I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: don't know what we're gonna try, okay. So Zajko more
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: or less starts by warning people to not date her ex,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Alice Monday, because that's the most important thing you want
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: to say when you're in jail. Don't date my ex,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: please and thank you if you recall. Monday was accused
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: of abusing both Emma Burhanian and Jamie's sage Coo, but
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Jamie had denied any knowledge of this abuse. That was
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: back before they were friends with Ziz though now that
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: they're in jail facing several charges, they can be honest.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Of course Monday did abuse them, but they lied about
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: it in order to infiltrate and become a whistleblower in
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: the rationalist community, because like so many online arguments these days,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: it all comes down to disgusting crimes against children, if
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: you catch my drift, because I don't know if we're
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: allowed to say that word on YouTube, but you guys
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, right, okay, And the only
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: way to devat to defeat predators and abusers in our
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: communities is to allow ourselves to be abused so we
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: can lure the abusers into a false sense of security apparently,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: and then do jack shit because Asajka writes, quote, then
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: COVID happened and I ended up not even applying to
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: the organizations. Well shit, that was a pretty crucial part
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: of the plan, Jamie, all right, I think it's kind
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: of important. I mean, if this Dizians are known for anything, though,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: it's definitely doing everything have asked.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Is called Chris Hansen, Oh.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: My god, Who's like, yeah, it's all happening. But you
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: know what, COVID happened. I'm dying. I'm not going to
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: talk about the abuse of fucking children. COVID got in
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: the way what we're supposed to believe, you social justice warrior,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: get out of here. Come on.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: My whole life. So I don't know why they're even here.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: You know what, inter fact, I'm playing a joke, joke
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: this whole time. This isn't really my friend or texting.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: I am so sorry. They are ruining it for.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 8: You are That's what they're saying, because they loved me.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: Just giving people lie.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: They lied to you. They lied to you. That's how
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: you love somebody. You told them the truth.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: So they don't your children that there is a Santa clause.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: I feel like the three Musketeers in Santa are a
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: very different.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 9: Level boys, the hardy boys are on anyway, So were
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: you right that the Meeker four were swatted and did
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 9: nothing wrong?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: Of course? I mean, seriously, okay, I'll go with that one.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Is that the sequel the real it's based on the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: real life.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: What's funny is they were too.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: Now. But in sure, guys, maybe Anna Solomon called up
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: the Westminster Woods and end up ended up escalating things
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: in advance somehow, but also maybe some camp counselors saw
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: four black robed guy focuses blocking the only entrance to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: their facility and decided better safe than sorry. But no,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: there's no reason to fear these people, who have by
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: now been tied to multiple homicides, and, as Jamie says,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: the only bombs they have are truth bombs. No, I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: have a gun. If you four black guy focuses show up,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: you're done.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: Done. I don't think that means what you think. It means.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: No somebody that so we can show.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: It later, definitely doesn't.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: Definitely what does the focuses mean?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: Guy FOWKX. He was real?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: He was real, Terry, you know.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: It wasn't just a Natalie Portman film, just a film.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: So what I thought was real is fake, and what
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: I thought was fake is real.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the simulation, Terry.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: But okay, I'm gonna just say, Sammy, you are correct.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: I still believe it's peak rainbows. It's happy. Girls are
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: the prettiest girls.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I love you guys. Never change, never change.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: I hate all of you.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Change.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: By the way, I am one hundred percent taking their
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: truth bombs line because it's I love it, and I
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: think we've been dropping all the truth bombs bombs, and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Jamie has not been dropping all the truth bombs.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: But anyway, thank y'all are dropping the truth bombs.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Told freaking musketeers.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, next you're gonna tell me that I don't
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: have children and my husband doesn't love me. I mean,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: come on, I mean, come on.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: He's heard my husband go, what is happening, Harry, What
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: is happening over there?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Somebody is going to get a Hey, Lucy, she's a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: fine h h.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: We love her. She's doing fantastic.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Camera just so hard.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: You're so pretty and I love you.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, she doesn't need your petty love double h.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: You know what, Terry, I think that's the truth. I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: don't think it's made up. There you go, anyway, all happen.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the story, cappin.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: Because you continue with this letter.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: Jamie writes quite a bit about JD. Pressman, who wrote
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: the zizzians dot info site and occasionally thought a raccoon
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: in his garbage was zizz Remember him? Honestly, this is
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: probably one of the reasons why news outlets aren't publishing
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: this letter in full Zajko makes many serious claims about
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: pressmen committing crimes and cites the tumblr we read from previously,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: the one with that raccoon meme, as proof.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: My favorite.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: They say that everything, like every crime, every death we've discussed,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: is Pressman's fault because he spread the lies and people
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: ran with it.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: And also, as we've mentioned previously, they think he likes
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: underaged people.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 5: Him and a lot of the rationalist community.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: And all of this is about covering up the fact
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: that rationalists are petos.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: Sure, Jan, they do name drop Epstein as being involved
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: in this, by the way.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of name dropping in that letter
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: I get why they didn't publish it either, because there's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of statements.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: Why that raccoon is so cute.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: The raccoon's so cute, right, but it's not.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: I know, he's a fake raccoon's are we.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Talking about Maximilian who's on the page or what are
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: we talking about here?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: Oh? The last the raccoon picture.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think they're just a slide ahead.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: That's Oh, yes, durable. I love raccoons that look like
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: you're going to disembowel me.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: I was good to say. Up next, so.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: Maximilian eventually Schneider a creep and accuses him of essaying
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: sexually assaulting young Blood, and theorizes that when young Blood
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: ran away from him, he hacked into their accounts, decided
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: to secretly support SiZ, and eventually killed Curtis Lynde. It's
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: implied that this is to impress young What we're gonna
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: hear another option that contradicts this theory tonight.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, if this is why he allegedly
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: did what he did, then why was Snyder's first priority?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: His number one priority in jail was to write a
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: fifteen hundred word letter to Eliza Ydowski about turning vegan. Like,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: if all this was to get a girl back or
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: they sorry, to get them back, your first letter is
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: going to be able to this fuck face fan fiction writer,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Like what it's crazy to.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Me anybody named Maximilian Bentley Snyder, I don't know.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. The Zizzians are so exhausting, aren't they?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Can you believe this?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: I'm ready for I had a dog named Maximilian.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: I think it's a great name, but this guy, it's
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: a great name for a dog.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: Well lit another fun.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Continue on Sorry that's fun.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Another fun fact here is that Jamie calls Somni Jabzia.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: It's unclear if this is the new preferred name for
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Latham or a pet name, which is still better than Bey.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: So in Jamie's telling of the death of Emma Borhanian,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Lynde had connections to corrupt rationalists and wanted to kill
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: his tenants and steal their belongings. Okay, it's another sure
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: jan moment, without considering if it negates their previous argument.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: They also wrote that Surrey daw set up the initial
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: attack on Curtis Lynde because they hated trans women. We
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: then arrive at a particularly spectation tacular, which you know,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: if particularly and spectacular are put together, it's gonna be
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: a good one.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Passage in which Zojko purports that if people think about
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: them and Ziz for too long, they go insane.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Too late, Sorry, guys, Oh my gosh, I'm gonna go
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: insane after I read this. Prepare yourselves everyone. Quote. By
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: the way, this is mind blowing to me as someone
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: who's been researching this for months, and to see Jamie's
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: words of like their perspective of what's went down and
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: what they think of certain people. It's crazy. I love
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: it anyway, So this is what they had to write. Quote.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: There is a pattern of humans like Dow slowly losing
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: their minds the more they think about us without them
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: having interacted much with us. Eventually they devolve into screaming
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: wrecks who ran about how their demons or how they
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: personally descended the multiverse or attempted to do terrorist terrorist
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: attacks on community events and blame it on us. When
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: did this ever happen? Or threaten to commit suicide and
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: make it look like a murder to have us be blamed,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: or attack humans we dislike out of some half hearted
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: attempt to make it look like we did it. And
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: way too many humans have become totally fixated on Ziz,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: developing obsessions that have lasted over six years, apparently losing
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: interest in hobbies in order to hunt her down.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: I have never felt so seen. Maybe other Kena is
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 6: actually an Eldridge horror.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: I'm still apt to think that she's a rack like
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: a rabbid Alvin to the Chipmunk. Maybe what.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: So fucking dramatic?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: So dramatic, Terry Alvin. The Chipmunk is fictional, by the way.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: I am so guys, he looks real. No, I know,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: and Marma, I know all in Simon, they're all but
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: my bestie who is still watching Cheryl. She texted me
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: that she has proof that the Three Musketeers are real.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, really.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Were they?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: I am?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: I am not crazy. And then she's worried that y'all
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: can see my text messages and she's like, they can't
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: see me, right, No, Cheryl, they cannot see our private text.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: And that's okay.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: Although we love Cheryl, I think Cheryl.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: And you know what, we love differing opinions around here.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: So if you we do have proof or feel that
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: way by Amy's.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: That is not a proof that they're correct. That is
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: not proof that they're real in any way that is
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: proved they're not.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: We've gone off the rails.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: Everyone, Well, we're going off the rails because y'all are
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: trying to be a cult and lie to people and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: tell them the Three Musketeers. You are trying to be
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: a sop, and I need to make I am the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: voice to let people know that we know that they
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: are real.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 8: Okay, bitch, and verify it's candy.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: This is why I'm on my fourth fier.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: I love this much.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna just keep going and I'm just gonna move on.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: So Jamie legis Terry has mental illness. Wait a minute,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: let me just think again. Jamie is saying that Terry
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: has mental illness while in jail, and so does Terry,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: and that the self harm and starvation is because she
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: thought about ziz or the Three Musketeers for too long.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: But she descended to the multiverse, and guys, I hate
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: it when that happens. But right now I'm wishing I
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: could split my brain where part sleeps in part think because.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: My god, you're joining the.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: World has collapsed.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: Tonight podcast and they wish they could sleep, but they
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: still have to work.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: How preposterous is this whole thing? They descended into the multiverse?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Like what? Okay? But also this gives me like mean
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: girls like I can't act that popular vibes like.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: Abbolutely drives people like shut up, sorry, but you lost me. Okay,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: what I agree.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: I've been researching you guys for months now, and I
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: think y'all are idiots. But okay, let's continue on.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: Go Terry, Lady and Gray. That would be a negative,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: not loud unless you come to our live show JT.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: You will have the opportunity two question, Cheryl.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: I love that I don't have questions. I just want
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: to hang out.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: So now, guys, Jamie describes the two years prior to
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: their arrest as home brewed witness protection. I mean, I've
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: heard of home brewed beer, homebrewed yeast bread, but I've
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: not heard of home brewed witness protection. Okay, just saying,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: are different.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: People are very different homebrews than I was going to
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: go to.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: M We alls been drinking for twenty four hours. But okay,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: they assumed that the I R I M I are
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: I see far folks had hired elite assassins to kill them.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: Oh girl, we wished specifically they want the ziz gang
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: dead because uh, they're like cringe. Girl, that motive is
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: so cringe. So here we get to the passage that's
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: being quoted to the press, and I need to stop drinking.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: You are so fucking cringe.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: Oh So the passage and question is I have been
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: unable to read the news while in jail. The little
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: news I've gotten was enough to determine that my friends
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: and I are being described as like Satan's devil and
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: the Manson family all rolled into one. The newspapers do
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: not seem to realize that there are multiple groups, and
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: that my friends and I are not with Snyder. My
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: grandmother's ex aide is confabulating a conversation that never happened.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: Papers are publishing speculation as fat and someone even invented
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: a tall tale about a non existent machine gun.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: Wait three or post swastika forehead.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I want to know your post it makes
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: a difference in today's world, doesn't make a difference.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: I'm viscerally reminded of witch hunts, of the Satanic panic,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: of the mob that burned Joan of arc at the stakes,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: and of the mom the ripped apart e patia. These
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: papers are flagrantly lying. For instance, there were no truck
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: fulls of guns, no machine gun, and I didn't murder
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: my parents. I assume that if the papers are lying
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 6: about that, and they're lying about a lot of other
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 6: things too, you still have the option to read what
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 6: Zizz actually wrote from the source, instead of relying on
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: misrepresentative summaries and seriously thought, FYI is.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: On the way back machine. You may even like what
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: you read.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: Oh that's right, Jamie has included a plug for Zizz's
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: blog in this missive Is it gonna make us go
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: insane or not?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: Janie? I did that.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Reading those blog posts, every single fucking one. They dried
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: me a little bit insane. But also, I have read
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: so many articles you guys about this case, like if
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: you looked at our googok. I saved so many articles
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: and not a single one that I have read have
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: they mentioned that they are Satan's lapdogs or the devil
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: or certainly nothing along the lines of freaking machine guns,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: because guess what I would have said, so, I would
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: have said so. So I'm not sure what their sources
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: are in jail, but I've read nothing, nothing to back
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: up those claims. You gots nothing of substances of like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: reputable journalism.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: So I looked.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: All over for where the heck machine guns came from
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: and found nothing.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: No, I think she's getting that from. Oh what do
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: they call that, jail house kites? I think that's what
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: it's called.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: Two things. One, they're not that special to be talked
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: about all the time like they think they're. But two,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give you something to talk about. You
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: are straight out of Satan's butthole. Now you can start
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: to writing about it. They go on to write, this
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: is not my leader, and I am not hurt. What
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: we have is called friendship. Sorry, oh my god. And
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: you know you know Oprah forced Scale to go into space.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: By the way, just.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: Oh you ever did this visual capin? If this was you,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: that is amazing.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: That gets all the credit for everything tonight.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, not everything, cappn you have credit for ruining my life.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: So thank you. They just gave you credit for everything.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: What we have is called a friendship. And I love
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: her infinitely, more than I could ever express. I've never
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: met anyone like her, and I'm honored to be able
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: to consider myself among her friends. I'm having a hard
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: time with all the brown on your nose. Now. If
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: this seems to be a little you know what, Captain,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: Sorry Congress, I thought I had it. I thought I
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: had it earlier. I ain't got it now. If this
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: seems a little incongruous with a certain blog post we
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: read last time, don't worry. We're gonna get there and
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: it'll be worth the wait. What is important right now
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: is A this is a witch hunt, and B the
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: justice system is broken, and again this is all JD.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: Pressman and his rationalist friend's fault. Oh and some of
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: them may be connected to the Russian mafia, because why not,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: let's add one more thing to the file. We haven't had.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Him in this story yet.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: Shockingly, how we're gonna breae the Russians, you know what,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, We're all gonna lose connection real
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: fucking fast.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: Right right?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 5: Wow?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, So they go ahead and make allegations of specific
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: mistreatments during their first couple of days of jail, of
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: being denied medical treatment, of being stripped and left lying
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: in a pile of their own sick. They say they
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: are starved and then interrogated when they are weakened. Not
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: unlike what Ziz said during the bail hearing, but they
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: say that Ziz got it worse. Put in solitary after
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: the hearing, unable to use tablets to access the legal
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: library or research her case at Oh, how does Jamie
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: know this? But okay, Jamie has heard that her friends
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: are on a hunger strike. And now we get to
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: that explanation I was waiting for, and probably all of
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: you after our last episode. But you're all wondering why
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: did Jamie previously blog that Ziz threatened to kill her
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: if they didn't kill Alice Monday and then turn around
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: and write about Ziz being the stacy to their Mary Anne.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're all asking that question. Much like the
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: beginning of this letter, where Jamie explains away lying about
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: Alice Monday in a bizarre way, here they write, go ahead, Derry,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: tell us.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: I I have so many things to say about that,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: and I'm trying really hard not.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: To Why You're great, babe?
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: Who You're great? Because I've been drinking. Oh my god,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: and guys, my text are blowing up. I love me.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: My friends that are watching on.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Facebook, we love that.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: Please is the fact that y'all are screen recording this ship?
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: Please stop because this video will be deleted from YouTube tomorrow. Okay,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: I'm changing.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: It again, now changing right now.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: We love you, Terry, RYO tell us more about these pieces,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: though I do.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: So now I have to tell y'all a little Birdie
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: told me that Plum had a brain tumor in twenty
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: twenty one, which calls Plumb to miss hears Zizz on
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: the phone, and guys, the call was recorded and as
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: it turns out no threats were made, and that's why
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: plumb took that post down.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: Except that post was from February twenty twenty two, so
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: I don't buy that. And it's also weird to then
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: refer to yourself as your online name third person. It's
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: fucking weird, Jamie. And if they're blaming this on a
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: brain tumor, then everything else they talk about in that
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: letter during that timeframe wouldn't be reliable either, including the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: stuff you have to say about JD Breathe. I'm just
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: saying it doesn't. You can't pick and choose what it
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: affects and what it doesn't, Jamie. Oh these people kill me.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: They do. But I had a brain tumor in twenty
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: twenty four, on April twenty seventh, but it was a
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: Saturday that year, and so that is why anything you
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: say on YouTube on April twenty seventh, twenty twenty five
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: is not valid. I had a brain tumor. I'm just
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: letting you guys know.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Share you I've been gone having ballad and then I
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: looked at there and I was like, oh shit, that's today.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: So see they are funny, Terry, you are so funny.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: I am not funny, but I think you you're saying
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: that issue, so maybe it's just all the wine in
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: the market. Let's just move on. There aren't two more postscripts,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: but they're both of interest. Guys. It's kind of like
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: Jamie wrote nineteen pages of word vomit and then remembered
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: that there were kind of tangible issues at hand, kind
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: of like Terry True Crime does. Now. The PPS states
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: that Jamie will not willingly testify against young Blot, calling
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: it a show trial. I mean, guys, can you imagine
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: if we could live stream that trial on corch count
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: with Lama, because that would be some entertainment. Guys, that
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: would be sm entertainment. Just saying, now the PPPs last one,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: I swear, guys, I promise it plays down the gun charges,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: basically saying it's only three guns. Guys, none of them
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: were machine guns. Y'all just need to chill out.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: It's fine.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: I needed them to protect myself from the pedophile army
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: coming after me because I am still a five year
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: old girl.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: Now, am I stuff on?
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: Because this letter has everything telling people your ex sucks,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: using Tumblr as evidence for anything descending the multiverse, blaming
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 6: your if I disappear this did it blog post on
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 6: a brain tumor machine guns? Oh, and claiming that their
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 6: friends are all super sweet and nice when we've seen
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 6: things like this.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: Yikes, hold on, can we like? I like, can we
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: make this isn't great?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: Do you want me to read it? Because I can
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: see it and read it?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 4: Please read it because I don't.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: This is from Emma in a discord conversation. It looks
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: like Emma says. I don't know who she's talking to,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: but it's all her words, she says. Emma says, it's
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: totally cool, Like, imagine getting tons and tons of revenge
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: for justice. Isn't that cool? Are you sure this is
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: somebody else? Are you sure? Do you get to hold
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: bloody knives as you plunge the knive into someone's bared throat?
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: AM unclear on how much I actually want to stab
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: my mother's but but probably a lot. What the fuck?
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: All?
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Right? So Emma of course responds in a very rational way.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: You guys, because they're rationalists, remember that. Oh that's right,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: says Yes, I mean, if you want, those can totally
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: be good things, Like there's totally a different way to
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: do good visions versus evil vengeance. Like the shape of
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: the poetry is different, but brutally plunging a knife into
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: someone's throat sounds like a clean kill. They have to
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: be actually bad, though, like forcing you to go to
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: school or something on pa death, which is totally a
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: thing parents do, or any of the other really bad
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: things they do. Quote kill your parents end quote is
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: a very good meme.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: What the fuckery?
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: That's right? Remember you guys, friends are good guys. They're
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: the good guys. What in the fuck?
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: I'm probably shouldn't have asked you to read that, because
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: now that you've read it, I'm like, oh my god.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Going to school? What?
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: I have to tell you I find this precious because
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: our adorable Annie, who's pregnant about to give birth. I
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: could just imagine being his new mom to be. She's
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: sitting there going, oh my effing god.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: Because they're all the time. Don't ye read Harry, that's true.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: Don't want to read Harry Potter. Don't let him watch
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: water Story.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, Harry, No.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: Don't listen a mind game.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Fox Terry.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: So again, this letter is a case of having an
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: unreliable narrator. They barely mentioned their parents murder. First of all,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 6: little odd to me, so weird. And again it's likely
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 6: that no one wanted to publish this because of all
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: the wild allegations against specific people. Because even if we
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 6: want to spend our time reading these blogs in this letter,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: we also know that that's not proof of anything. You
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: can't cite a tumbler as evidence. Jamie thinks the justice
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: system is broken, and damn if it doesn't feel that way.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 6: Sometimes when you when you get down into some of
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 6: these objections, it also seems like maybe they just don't
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: understand how the justice system works.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 5: No, even Lori Valo knew what hearsay was.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: She does fucking suck. But she is a goddess, a
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: multi dimensional time traveling god is so obvious.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: Please do but.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: Look at that photo. But seriously, a prey strul capin
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: this seems like the perfect wanting to plug the new
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  Speaker 2: show on True Crime in one time? Shall I? So
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: we have now? This first week was our couch cort
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  Speaker 2: with Lama. Come watch a thrilling show trial, as Jamie
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  Speaker 2: likes to call it, As Lama learns the ropes of
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  Speaker 2: the Karen reads second trial as it happens live. Join
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  Speaker 2: me and some of my besties at eight thirty a m. Eastern.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: I know it's early, but you can come in your
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: pajamas every day of this week, Monday through Friday.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: That's all Shama can be there at eight thirty.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: You can do facts hard and facts you guys.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: I say, Malama, animal cracker.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Oh you Loma animal crecor.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's about to eat your head off. No,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: I am not eating it, do it? I love it,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: but I'm going to eat the other crackers because I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: think I need to absorb some alcohol.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: It's probably a good idea, Terry.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: As as for the trials of these three, we've literally
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: done everything. What's left little pigs, little pigs, little little
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: little pigs.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, whatever that works. I like it. I like it
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: a lot. Their trials are separately scheduled from late July
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: to late August. If it's anything like their friends in California,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: those dates are flexible. Mm hmm. There is a motion
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: to consolidate Somnia and Surrey's trials that was filled in
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: December and has been continued multiple times, wow multiple times since. Unfortunately,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: none of these hearings are available for public viewing, thankfully,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: though legal reporter Matt Simon's covered in April's eighth, April eighth,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: April's eighth. I think it's the same thing hearing, and
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: Matt writes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, do I do this in like a nineteen
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: twenties voice, like the extra extra.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't, I'll be disappointed all right.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: After Somny was coax from behind the inch thick steel
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: doors that separated her from the courtroom, she produced a
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: piece of paper in her hands and began reading a
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: statement laced with conspiracy and paranoia. She claims that a
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: specific officer has threatened her life and that her jail
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: has been forcibly detransitioning her with hormones as part of
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: a quarter century long initiative. Although it's unclear what she
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: was referring to, Letham's statements appeared more prepared than her
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: apparently impromptu outburst at her previous hearings in March. However,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: she was not able to elaborate on her claims as
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: she was removed from the courtroom shortly after by officers,
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: though she I was able to repeat them at least once.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: That's okay, don't you all applaud at once.
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  Speaker 3: Chee.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Guys, my mind, it's fine.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: Terry golf claps for everybody.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: I mean you.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just gonna we're gonna delete this episode. We're
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: just gonna.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: I am not again, nope, yeah.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: But I'm going to just send you a gold hand
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: clap so you can just lift them up because that
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, your reenactments are great, but glitter everywhere.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: Like the Lebron James when he.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: Doesn't just think, wow, that's a sports reference.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: Lebron James is from fucking Ohio. You guys, come on,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: of course, you know many times I saw him when
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: he played with the Cabs, before he won any championships,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: a lot, and it was awesome. Anyway, JT. What okay, anyway,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: continue on with the story before I killed JT.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: I'm like, after this, dude, dude, don't do that.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: Now, let's just say Judge John b Ellis appeared. He
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: used it this kind of spectacle by now, and he
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: handled it much better than any of us would because
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: he did it calmly, and we know we would not
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: have done that. But he said, because this is Latham
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 4: will not behave herself. We will have to remove her,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: the judge said, and he was almost bored as Latham
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: was led out of the room and placed in an
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: isolation room. Love that an adjacent room connected to the courtroom,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: a large window where she could watch the proceedings. So, guys,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: kind of like that baby room inside the Catholic church
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: where you can go and you can see everything that
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: we can't hear you.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: Where she was.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, she went to the not sub place. Now the
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: funny thing, her muffled shouting could be heard in the
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 4: next room for the rest of the hearings. It's just
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 4: a room.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Can you explain this baby room to me?
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: So in the Catholic Church, you have the church open
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: where the priest is all the people, but we have
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 4: a room for these people who have these little demon
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: children that want to cry. You're in church service. So
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: you go in that room and it's a soundproof room,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: but you have a window so you can see what's
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: going on. But we can't he are you. Okay, you
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: can hear that, but we don't hear the little demon children.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, two things. One, you mean they were acting like children,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: not but Catholic wise definitely made demons. But two that's
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: only available in rich Catholic churches. In the poor Catholic churches,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: you get put in the back, like you just get
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: put in the back.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: That is not in all Catholic churches.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: No, ma'am, I think we did after the show, because
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 6: I need to know if there's like a one way
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 6: mirror whatever.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know. This judge looks like the list Christopher Walking.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: He's making me uncomfortable.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: He does look like walking. And I just need to
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: know real quick. Who is Niko? Because Saving Sunshine says
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: he needs to be.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 5: Thinking about the Lakers? Is she?
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, is that what she's talking I think she's talking basketball,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: don't worry about she's.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: Talking about like he hire somebody named Nico.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: No, the one person probably should. I don't know, fucking idea.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: Worst with a.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: Guy named Nico Once I did. That was his real name,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: which I thought was a very cool name. But he
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: wasn't the wrong she says. The Maverick coach isn't the
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: Maverick coach Mark Cuban. Oh, never, man, he's the owner. Okay,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: we're gonna just shut up, move on all right, back
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: to Carlton instead of sports, you know, a different kind
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: of cult because.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: That's kind of the same, nicely done.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: So Surrey Doo appeared remotely and was described as soft
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 6: spoken and cooperative and does not want their trials consolidated.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 6: Dow filed an opposition to the motion to consolidate January,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 6: claiming that consolidating the two cases would gravely prejudice their
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 6: case for sure, but.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: Also kind of go fucking yourself a little bit, but okay,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: And so just this last Tuesday, on April twenty second,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: Curtis Lynn's friend and tenant, Patrick McMillan testified to his
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: relationship with Lynn and his knowledge of Lynn's Zizzy and tenants,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: as well as the attacks that ended Lynn's life.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 5: This was conditional.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: Testimony, which is testimony recorded in advance when there is
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: a reasonable belief that a witness may be unavailable.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 5: To testify at trial. I wish they had done with Lynne.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: Accuring my bag wine not peeing in case anyone is one.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: Well, now I have to pee so well.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you about that.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 5: Sorry, good there.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: There is hope for McMillan to be an important witness
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 6: in the upcoming trial, but his testimony may be complicated
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 6: by his physical and mental state. At eighty one years,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 6: Patrick McMillan has had eight strokes and nine heart attacks,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 6: testified to memory and cognitive issues.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: Oh damn, eight strokes and nine heart attacks.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 4: That is crazy, and he's still alive.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: And he's still alive. Him and Lynn both went through
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: some crazy asshell things and both of those guys well,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: Lynn is sadly no longer with us, but his recovery
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: from the first attack. I'm just saying, what are their secrets?
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: Because wow, wow.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: Well, McMillan said in court. I can't do math. I
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: can't add. I have difficulty reading.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 6: Names are hard for me and sometimes I can't pick
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: up the right word. In short, he didn't come here
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 6: to math a man after our own hearts.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: First of all, rude. The man's had hearted text. So
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that, but I know, I know.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you said something because all I can think
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: of it respond with his girl, sayme uh. McMillan testified
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: that the Zizians on Lynn's land had threatened lind on
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: multiple occasions, throwing rocks and pulling out knives after disagreements Jeez,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: which led to Lynn purchasing his gun. He testified to
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: seeing eviction notice his taped to the windshields of the
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: Slack the Slack mobiles before the attack, and he confirmed
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: the story of Soomny Daw and Boorhanian's attack on Lind
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: as we told it previously. Now the defense focused on
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: using his admittedly poor memory against him, pointing out inconsistencies.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: What look at that black cat.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I got distracted by the there's just.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 4: A look at that black cat.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Look at that Annie? Are you still watching? Look at
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: this black cat photo? But I'm in the crime scene.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 8: That's like, yes, yes, I.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: Yea Annie Calliope. I mean her little butt the other
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: day was so cute in front of the camera.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: Oh my god. Okay, I'm sorry, but thank you for
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: JT for saying that, because I was like going, oh
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: my god, that nobody's going to talk about the cat.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that picture too perfect.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 4: She is intentional. You may not realize it, but she'd
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: be intentional with her visuals.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: She's a smart Okay, people don't really smart.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: Are you talking about me or the cat?
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: Oh three, you, the cat and capin all three we're
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: all the hopes high seriously any you went to camp instead?
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 3: Good grief wow out in North Carolina.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: The defense focused on using his admittedly poor memory against him,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: pointing out inconsistencies in his testimony and inaccuracies in his memory.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: Of the layout of Lynd's property. They also highlighted his
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: criminal history, which he says were part of his being
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: an intelligence agent for thirty years, and that he had
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: to quote go down with the arrestees a few times.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: Wording the defense spun him as a criminal and a nark,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 3: and one whose career was built on his ability to lie.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: Somni continued her pattern of shouting about being assaulted and
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: threatened by the police before being physically removed from the room. God,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: I wish I was there. This was likely a reference
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: to her August twenty twenty four civil rights complaint filed
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: against Salano County. Their next hearing, their next hearing, that
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: that might be a serial killer's writing that that is
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: that is something I just see journals and journals of it.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: The next hearing schedule for May second, where the motion
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: to consolidate should finally be resolved. Should not real like should.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: Isn't like Thursday or Friday? This week.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, on the third day. Third, that's what.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: There's probably continues to be quite honest, I.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: I just think we're gonna have so many updates coming.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 6: This they they're talking like this hearing is gonna like
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 6: actually with some things as far as moving forwards.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: So I have it on my account, I.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: Hope so awesome. Thank you, Kapvin.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: You know what I find a blog about.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: Interesting is like just I can't wait through Captain's blog
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: and review them in a true crime st.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: The Captain's blog.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: It's right there in faces we.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: Amy. Will you set up a meeting for us to
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: schedule that and talk about all of it and design
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: it so it can happen.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, No, you know I think what is interesting? God,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: these guys and when they're in custody, they're making I
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: get their complaints. Okay, I understand that these things do
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: happen to people that are incarcerated, but for fuck's sake,
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: can you go about it in a different way that
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: is going to maybe, I don't know, maybe have a
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: chance of producing some results or change because there theatrics
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: are exhausting and help nobody, nobody, nobody to take seriously,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I hate these people so much they
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: hurt my brain.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 6: Oh I this was the first time I realized that
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 6: there was a civil rights complaint in Solano County as
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 6: well as the one.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: In Sonoma County.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: Didn't know that either, So I mean again, yeah, it sucks.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 6: I'm sure that a lot of bad stuff happens to
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 6: trans people in jail, but all sorts of people.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: The quantity of the.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: Accusations, the scope of the accusations, there's a lot of
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: them in this game.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody's gonna listen to you when you act
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: like a fool, Yeah, nobody. Nobody's gonna take you seriously,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: your cause seriously. And for some reason, these people who
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: are grown as fucking adults have not picked that up yet.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. I feel like they do more harm
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: than good, but that's just me. Anyway, Let's continue on. Well,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: who else is sitting in jail? You may ask, well,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: Milo aka Teresa Lung young Blood and our favorite name,
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Maximillion Bentley Snyder, which I can't help but pronounce it anyway,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: but that way, because you see, I think that's perfect
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: so fucking pompous, doesn't he anyway? So Teresa Youngblood aka
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: Milo was last in federal court in Burlington, Vermont, on
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: February seventh, where they entered and not guilty plead to
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: a weapons charge related to the shooting of David Miland.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: Further hearings have not been scheduled at this time, which
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: is not surprising for a federal case. Good luck getting
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: a whole lot out of him. We'll hear some things,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: but that's just how federal court works. You all, well,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: I agree. I think at the federal court. Nobody said this,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 2: but I agree with you that the federal court should
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: be more transparent, way more than it is. But here
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: we are now think mm hmmm. I have so many
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: opinions about that, but now is not the time anyway.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: Snyder's last hearing was in March twenty sixth in Vallejo, California,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: where he pleaded not guilty to one count of murder
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: with special circumstances and agreed to delay his preliminary hearing
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: to allow more time to prepare his defense. Good look, buddy.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: His next hearing is scheduled for June sixteenth. Snyder has
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: been accused of lying in wait before attacking eighty two
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: year old Curtis Lnt, which is also an aggravating factor
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: due to his age, making him eligible for the death
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: penalty or life in prison. Now you may be wondering, well, yeah,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: but Lama, he is in California. What are they odds?
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: Weird thing about California guys is they don't have a
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: problem putting people on death row. They just don't follow through,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: which is so interesting their death row count.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: But anyway, I think it was Gavin Newsom, Yes, put
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: that into Yes, And I will say whoever put it
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: in or stopped it, I did like the thought behind it.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: I would rather not put anyone to death than put
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 4: to death an innocent person that I agree with.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: But I won't go into that. But I will say
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: that the death penalty in the state of California has
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: went back and forth numerous times in several decades. This
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: is not new to one particular governor. I mean since
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: the seventies, I believe if it's been it donging back
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: and forth in California. But with his heinous, brutal crime
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: of what he did to Curtis Lynd and what Curtis
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: had survived before, I would not be surprised at all
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: if prosecution went for the death penalty with him based
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: on those aggregate fading factors and the heinousness and brutality
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: of the crime, which is what you need to qualify
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: for a death penalty case.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: By the way, we will take care of Eeman Texas.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, you guys, take.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Cappy, what.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: You got for us?
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: Girl, Well, we did get some hot gss this week
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 6: about these two alleged lovers.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 10: So see, you guys, it's not so much like goss
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 10: as an article with some sites their relationship before the crime,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 10: and a medium article written by their mutual friend.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 6: It's nothing too wild, but it is interesting to see
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: how these two found each other and made the choices
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 6: they did.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: Some of the highlights are.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 6: They connected over their mutual love of Harry Potter and
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 6: the methods of rationality, Because of course they did. You
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 6: just can't discuss this complex multiple homicide case without running
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 6: into that Harry Potter fan fiction.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: No if we did a shot every time that damn,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: that damn fan fic was brought up, Oh my goodness,
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: y' be.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 4: As drunk as I am.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: Right at the same time, that's probably their noise, you
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: That's sorry, I mean, flip it right now. Flip it
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: and repeat it and put it into a mix.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 5: This is.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: This is how you know.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: I've been streaming too many hours on a week. I'm
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: just delusion when I come.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: On, It's fine, okay, see me, you are just so adorable.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: She doesn't want to order argue with any Texan. I'm
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: not saying Texas is right. Okay, I think we're too
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 4: quick to kill. Let me just go on record and
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 4: saying that. But I am gonna say, California, California, y'all
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: be put people on death roll and then you put
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 4: them in this beautiful prison and they overlook the San
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 4: Francisco Bridge in Bay. I don't even have that kind
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 4: of view outside of my bedroom window.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe if you got on our boat fleet, you would, Terry.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: Maybe if you joined the Lama cult boat fleet say that.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 5: I think that's technically Buffy's boat fleet.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot Buffy is in charge of the
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: boat fleet.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 3: My bad, it was Buffy.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: I am getting into that.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: You're right, I have over I shall walk the plank.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: Please walk the plank. Amy add to our meeting for
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: Monday that we need to discuss our lanes and where
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 4: we should Staylama just stepped out of hers.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: Lanes look like plays.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: Oh my.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: Anyway, but anyway, so.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 4: We learn that Milo changed their name in ninth grade,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: with the name coming from the Phantom tool booth. Max's
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 4: nickname was suitcase Kid, which is not a great nickname
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: when you're into true crime.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's not.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: It's it's not a good look. It's it's just not
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 4: a good look. It's not great. Okay, that's my new
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: my new phrase. So Milo described Max. What are you
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 4: talking about?
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: Signed photo?
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: You're welcome.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: Does anybody see that he signed his own photo? Anybody?
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: No, of course, of course he did.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: Oh he did.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 5: Well in the It's probably from someone's Zeer book.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Oh that's a good point.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but that's hags you write, hags have a
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: great summer. Hags. I am, I am doing I am
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: doing this. I am doing this too. We all remember this,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: and if you don't, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: am I that.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 4: Much older than you?
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: Guy?
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: Because the hags means you were an old crotchety woman.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 3: You're a haggs have a great summer, damn it.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: And you youngins need to just learn to spell the words. Okay,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: y'all just don't know how to the Age of Bay
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: and skimmity. So it's okay, we're just moving off any day.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 4: So Max's nickname, suitcase Kid is not great. Okay, it's
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 4: just not great. But Mama described Max as a friend
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 4: with benefits before they even met. I mean, Luke Bryan
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: is my husband that I haven't met yet, Okay, and
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 4: we're gonna do the shake aboubow anyway. Now, Oh, he's aware,
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 4: he's Luke Brian's my free past. It's monkey butt. I
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 4: have to fight because that's her free pass and she's twelve, okay, exactly,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 4: So I don't know about Luke.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 4: It's probably the most interesting thing in that article is
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: the reasoning for the cult. Okay, obviously they are all
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 4: vegan and talk about it a lot, I mean, like
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 4: vomiting a lot. But this article alleges that the issue
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 4: is if AI is developed by meat eaters, the AI
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 4: is going to use a model for factory farming to
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 4: enslave and torture humans.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: Oh so have you met most of the humans, like,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: come up?
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, let's just say. I mean, but in their minds,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: the only way to save the world was to turn
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 4: everyone vegan. Now, apparently they got these views from online spaces,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 4: never having actually met the Zizians. So there's a lot
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 4: of talk of the documentary dominion as being the tool
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 4: used to persuade friends to go vegan. Now, it was
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 4: mentioned in Gwin's blog, and I always say this person's
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 4: I apologize block whatever, Sashka, Terry is drunk, I don't
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 4: know my last and by young Blood. Now, I guess
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 4: it's fair to say it's basically the Potter Harry fan
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 4: fiction of veganism. Okay, guys, I did that on purpose,
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 4: just to see a p Amy in the background, grab
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 4: her head and shake it.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 5: That is.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 4: That is the only reason that was for you, Amy,
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 4: I love you Harry, but it is Harry Potter, not Potter.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: It's so funny. Terra says I love you every time
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 3: that she wants to say, hate you so much.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 4: Now I know if I hate you, I know what
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 4: Harro is saying. You need help is what she's saying.
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I not Harry Plopper. Call invites only Oh,
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: for fox sake, Sam.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 4: Plopper, who is Harry Pop?
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure structured porn parody?
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Anyway, were we.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know always we did a document.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: I guess it's fair to say that Harry Potter fan
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 2: fiction of Beganism anyway.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 3: All right. Their friend Ashes medium article says that Max
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 3: and trenated Milo to this way of thinking and rationalism
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 3: in general. I watched their fringe extreme as Oh my gosh,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna eat my mic at this point with
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: through Max was never cut off, was almost sucked into
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: it with them, was too close to being sucked into
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 3: it with them, What it's happening? I didn't Okay, suck
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: of the suck of the suck suck sure quote we
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: talk about them reshaping my brain, Milo wrote to Ash
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 3: in twenty two and twenty twenty three, Milo wrote, quote,
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 3: I genuinely might be evil. I don't really understand it yet,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 3: but I'm learning ladder later ladder, I want to be
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: It's a fancy later ladder, it says. Milo referred to
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: this as Max quote is pilling everyone he comes into
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: contact with.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: Max.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 6: Max left Oxford to hang in Seattle with Milo and
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 6: eventually Ash as well. They would have threesomes and eat
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 6: vegan mac and cheese and dinosaur faux chicken nuggets.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, if you.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 4: Haven't tried them, what are the threesomes now? I'm talking
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 4: about the faux dinosaur shape nuggets?
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 5: Just making sure.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 4: Food afterwards. Threesomes are good inappropriate situations.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: Provided food, you'd be tired afterwards.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 4: So that's not in carbs.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 3: And this is nothing I want more than after a
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 3: threesome than dinosaur chicken nugs.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 5: And vegan mac and cheese.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 3: That's not real.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 6: I does I've had it. I've had a pretty good one. Actually,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 6: not a par threesome.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: Apparently.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, it seems like everybody was into it.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 6: So a bit later, after Max had tried to fundraise
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 6: to get Ziz out of prison in Pennsylvania, Ash lapsed
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 6: from being a vegan.
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, just wait a minute. You said they all seemed
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 4: like they were into it, because if they weren't, that's
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 4: an additional crime.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: They very much all seemed like there.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: Might be well, might have consolidate.
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, we've heard allegations from in this Ostro letter
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 6: that that Max was assaulting, and this is saying, you know,
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 6: they were friends with benefits.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 4: They were all in looke up the next morn in
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 4: it and had regrets.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: But Ash the additional person in the threesome gave a
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: different perspective. Yeahs Co did, And to be quite honest,
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: Ash didn't need to write any of this. No, So,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: the two who I find more maybe more reliable, is
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: gonna not be sage Ko.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 4: But you know whatever, saje Co is not my reality
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 4: reliable source.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 5: No so a bit later, sorry, I already read that
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 5: Ash is no longer vegan. It's a big deal.
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 6: Then Maximilo suggested Ash that maybe they weren't a good
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 6: person and maybe the world would be better off if
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 6: bad people killed themselves.
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: Sounds familiar.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 6: Understandably, Ash took a step back from that relationship smart
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 6: Milo park to talk to them, even after cutting off
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 6: the parents, saying that they were working on a slackmobile
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 6: with Max. Milo ended up driving that truck alone to
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 6: Chapel Hill. Though they applied for the marriage license later
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 6: that month, less than two months later, they were both
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 6: in jail. So that's just a different perspective than what
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 6: Zosco had to say. Like we just discussed, but some
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 6: of the detail, the dino nuggets and all that, it's
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 6: just it's really an interesting medium article. If anyone really
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 6: wants to go down the rabbit hole. It's like it's
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 6: written with the times shifting, and like it's very artfully done.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 6: It really seems like somebody's just completely mourning the loss
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 6: of a friend.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: It was a very interesting read, that's for sure. It
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: was a little reminiscent some of the other blog posts
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: and the confusingness of them. But I will say this, right,
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: this ash person never needed to write any of this,
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: And I mean it's hard to decide, right, like, is all,
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: who do you find more reliable? But you know who
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: I don't find reliable right now? Jamie's Asco. That's too
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: like youry is already okay?
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 6: If if Max isn't involved with z like I understand
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 6: that maybe they never met Ziz when they loved her ideas,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 6: but like, if Max isn't involved with Ziz, but Max
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 6: and Milo are like super tight, how does Milo end
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 6: up in North Carolina living with Ophelia? Like how she's
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 6: such an important or they such an important player in this.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: I still have so many questions about that specific period
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: in time that we don't have yet, that we probably
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: won't get yet unless it comes from Milo or Max.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: But like, it is very weird, It's very very weird,
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: but Okay, you guys, So maybe that wasn't so much
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: a full circle. It's kind of a loop dy loop
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: that we did tonight plus alcohol.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 4: What are we gonna do?
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: But that's the end of the updates we have at present,
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and update our graphic to show
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: where everyone is now. Oh man, this is what you
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 2: guys have spent the last seven weeks waiting for. Oh
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 2: my gosh. So if Gwynn and Alice Monday are still
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: off the radar, but it is believed that they are alive,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: Gwen email me girl. Jal Soomny and Snyder are in
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: jail in California. Young Blood is thank you, Amy. Young
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: Blood is in jail in Vermont, and Zizz Blank and
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: Zajko are in jail in Maryland. And of course, let's
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: remember the lives lost along the way. Okay, you guys,
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: because we lost a lot of people in this storytelling that, yeah,
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: we all had fun and games, but serious things lost,
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: lives lost. We have Maya Pasik and Jay Winnerford former
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to call them Sizzians, but they were
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 2: there in the early days. Richard and Rita Zajko, the
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: parents of Jamie Michelle Zageko, Curtis lind the landlord of
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: many of these people, David Miland border patrol agent, and
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: Ophelia Bakolt, one of the people shot in the Border
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: Patrol put Border Patrol shootings. That's too many people, too
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: many people lost in this story. Now, this is where
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: we are ending the series for now, but I promise
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 2: you all there will be more in the future once
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: we learn about their court proceedings. Okay, that's the thing
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 2: about court is it is not in any certain time.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: They set dates, but then it gets pushed and it
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: gets pushed and it gets pushed. All right, Zao or
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: Surrey and Latham, We're supposed to go to trial this
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: April and it didn't happen. And if the wills of
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: justice turned slow, they do, they do turn slow, but
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: for good reason, you guys do good reason. So as
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: soon as we have court updates, we'll do an update
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: for all of you.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 4: Guys.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 2: I can assure you that, Okay, the minute somebody goes
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: a trial, you will know. I promise. Maybe we might
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: read some more of Zizz's blog posts. We still have
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 2: plenty to read, you guys. We only read one, maybe
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 2: one and a half of Zizzu's blog posts. By the way,
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: there are so many more to cover about shit craziness,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: and I'm working on some zizzy and ideas for our
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 2: members only, including the highly talked about Harry Harry Potter
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 2: fan fit right written by Potter.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 4: Harry, Yes, Harry Potter, damn it, Carrie, what.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: Your man of powers have come into my brain? It's
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: because we didn't have table legs between us when you
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: were making eye contact with me.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: Just leg the leg, no legs between legs between.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: So we may we may do some readings of the
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: Harry Potter Fine fan fixed section.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, drinking today? Oh I think.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 5: So.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: If you're not a member yet, click join, but click
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: the join buttons so you don't miss out on the
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 2: fun and me pronouncing everything. Because if you think we're
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: crazy on these lives, wait till you get to members
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: where and we still secret. Nothing is off, We sure do,
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: so hold on, let me take a drink.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 3: Jobs.
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I should drink anymore, but okay.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: We're almost done. Tired, it's fine. As a matter of fact,
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: we're going to get to our closing thoughts for this evening.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 2: So we have spent almost twenty hours diving into and
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: talking about this story. Twenty freaking hours issue.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 4: Guys, Yes, okay, can I just pause you there? We're
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 4: talking about twenty hours on camera? Yes, how many hours
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: Hundreds that the team has done.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 4: So I just needed to call that out voluntarily, voluntear.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: I can tell you between February to March, I probably
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: did about two hundred hours of research. Yeah, I'm like,
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: what what and writing?
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 3: But where terror, terror lives, rabbit holes going down them.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: It's legal, so it's fine, that's true.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 4: I just need to point that out because when you
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 4: say twenty hours, it makes it sound like, oh, blah
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah in twenty hours. No, I just want
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 4: people to understand in the background, hundreds of hours.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: Between Amy are a assistant producer and Capin, we have
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 2: covered like every square inch of anything that is available anyway,
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: So she's been I just wanted to get like diamond Twitter,
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: rebbit hole. I'm thinking about messaging people.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 4: Please do it, girl, you go.
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 2: I asked Capin. I was like, hey, cap do you
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: think you could like help me out with visualists for this?
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: And she's like yeah, sure. And now she's in.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: Because I'm happy I have a job, so I don't
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 3: get I know, but when.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 5: You look for the visuals you have for everything, yeah,
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 5: because it's like, well, what is this?
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 6: Is this the real person like started that the first episode,
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 6: it's not you know, it wasn't as into it. It
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 6: was like, oh yeah, But at this point it's like
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 6: I have to find which courthouse is which, and you are.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: So invested you just go down and you're like, I
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: need to know this.
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 4: And this and this.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 3: Don't got enough shit. I got you distracted.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 6: Someone's letter tweeted at me two days ago, and I
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 6: was like, I am in the multiverse now a.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 4: Girl, please put on you Please put on your tinfoil
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 4: hat before you respond. Please love that for you. But no,
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 4: I just wanted everybody to know because this special. You know,
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 4: we're doing the Disney ands you guys in the amount
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 4: of hours in the background, and when we started talking
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 4: about it, it was like, guys, I can't. It makes
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 4: my head spin. So looking at all of the other
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 4: media articles that come out and podcasts, they don't give
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 4: us ship guys. You guys gave us the deep Dive,
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 4: y'all guide us the colonoscopy. You got up in there
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 4: all the way, and I just want people to understand
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 4: that and recognize that.
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Terry, It's very true. I've listened to podcast
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: I listened to a lot of the other podcasts that
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: cover this, and don't get me wrong, they do a
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: great job, but about only seventy percent is right and
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: there's a lot going on. Okay, I'm not slamming them
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 2: or anything, but yeah, I couldn't have done this without
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: the help especially of capin Oh my gosh, her and
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: her amazing visuals and really really getting into this and
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: being like, oh my gosh, the good eye on today.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 3: I need some help.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on, but.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: Anyway, let me finish my closing thought. Thank you Terry
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: for those kind words. It does take a team to
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: get into this, and I'm so excited that other people
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: became very passionate about it as well, because when I
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: read the story, I was like, holy crap, everyone needs
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: to know about this, and so I love how many
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: people of our team has become passionate. So anyway, there's Jasper,
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't even there's Jasper. Look everything
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: I just said.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were going off and I was like, I
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: don't even know what she's saying right now. I just
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 3: I had no idea what she was doing with a
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 3: little bowl earlier when she was off the screen. I
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 3: was very confused. I was like, oh, the Beliefs gave
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 3: her some yogurt. No, I love that.
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe if I were to checked the DM that says,
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: by the way, Jasper's coming on. But I soon busy ranting,
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: oh my god, can you look at the camera.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 4: He's like, Mom, I am not a show goat.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: He is a showgat. He's a super sy. He has
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 2: his own Instagram account.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 5: He's like all of us to be vegan, though I think.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 4: All of what he is eating is vegan.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 3: I've never eaten goat. His goats.
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 4: Goats do not eat meat products.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 2: Okay with me?
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 4: Like he doesn't like ice cream even really?
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 3: Is this really missed her target audience? That's right?
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: What about the goats? All right, Severans has goats. Why
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: did the Zizians not have goats? That's how they would
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: have got us to join. Anyway, let me go on
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 2: with our closing thoughts so we can wrap this up.
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: While Terry is doing whatever she is doing, I know
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: nobody's gonna listen to me. It's fine, let me just
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: say what I have to say. Why you look at
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 2: the adorable goat that is cuter than I am. So
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: when I said this was the craziest case I've ever
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 2: come across, I was not kidding. I think those of
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 2: you that have been around for seven episodes finally get that.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: I think the most important takeaway from this is to
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 2: shut the computer down and go touch some grass. Okay,
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: but really, no Donatama cookies, don't eat the lock. But really,
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: this story shows us that any type of person can
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: fall into this sort of cult like trap. I don't
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: think this was the ending that any of them imagined
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 2: for themselves.
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 4: But here we are.
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 2: It is sad how all of their bright futures have
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: been ruined, so many of them wanting to save the world,
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 2: and have they not all met I really do think
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 2: some of them could have genuinely helped humanity. My heart
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 2: goes out to the families of all the people who
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: lost their lives to all this fuckery, especially Curtis Lynde's family,
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 2: who we're going to have to go, who are probably
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 2: going to have to possively sit through two to three
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 2: trials to get justice, which is asking so much, you
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 2: guys of one family, So my heart really goes out
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: to out to them. None of us needed to happen.
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 2: None of it needed to happen. And you know, we
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: want to hear all of your guys's closing thoughts. You
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 2: guys have been with us for seven episodes. Let us
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: know what you think, all right, so please leave a
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: comment in the video below, and let us let us
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: know what your most interesting takes of this case has
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: been so far and what your thoughts are on it.
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: Capin to hand it over to you.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 5: Also, let us know if you think the Three Musketeers
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 5: are real?
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 4: How dare you?
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 3: How dare you are you telling.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 4: Me ER's not really either? He's right there, I see him.
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 3: It was, you know, it was kind of a Harvey situation.
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 6: Fine, So, honestly, as I've said earlier, I am pretty
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 6: sure I have descended the multiverse at this point, I
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 6: thought about thought about it enough.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 5: If Sage's letter is true, I am now insane. I
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 5: I want to know more. I'm like stalking people on X.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 5: I have it on my calendar.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 4: Isn't it fun?
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, it is an interesting I mean, part of
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 5: part of it is for the show, but I.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 4: Think I'm fun but it's interesting.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 6: It's it is I well, I just want to know
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 6: what comes up. And I even like things I'd already seen.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 6: Seeing other people's takes on it too is interesting to
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 6: me where it's like, oh, well, I've been thinking of
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 6: this one way, and then you kind of bring up
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 6: a valid point and maybe I should be more understanding
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 6: about this, like for sure that's valuable.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 5: But uh, you know, I'm going to.
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 6: Be following this case and so hopefully I can work
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 6: on it and when we come back to it. Uh
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 6: and uh, Gwen email us please again. Really, since you
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 6: showed up in the story, we've been trying to get
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 6: in touch on that.
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to get you to get in touch.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 6: And then also, just having done some of the research,
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 6: I want to really shout out and appreciate the sources
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 6: that are just covering things no one else is covering
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 6: and covering them like really in depth. So we've got
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 6: VT Digger Open Ballet ho and obviously can the Cowboys
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 6: kind of the leader in this. They're just such huge
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 6: resources like any just things, like I said, things you
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 6: don't see anywhere else the picture the neighbor's pictures from
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 6: the North Carolina FBI search, like if you digger got that?
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 6: Like can the Cowboy has a conference of timeline So
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 6: anytime I'm like, wait, what what was the order of things,
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 6: I can just flip back to that.
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 5: Like, these people really have been working and it made
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 5: it so much easier for us to do this work.
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 6: So I just want to make sure that we are
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 6: shouting them out, appreciating journalists and uh people that just
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 6: dedicate their time to following the start.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 3: Your last sentence shout out sounded a lot like a
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 3: country grammy thank you speech. I just.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 5: I didn't even thank God though, no you didn't, but.
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 3: VT digger.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 4: In your country.
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 2: But no, she's not wrong. The San Francis she's not wrong.
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how they actually say that.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 5: But uh the courtroom reporter, Uh yeah there.
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 2: But they've been following them since like the beginning, like
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 2: before them, since the protest.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, but we also need to give credit for Capain
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 4: Lama because like people magazine obviously has way more resources
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 4: than we do, and their article was this the amount
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 4: of research and rabbit holes that y'all gone down well,
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I mean, you guys
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 4: took it above and beyond, and I just think that
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 4: And that's what I love about our channel is that
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 4: we're not just going to go read two articles. We
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 4: all find our own little rabbit holes to go down.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 4: And guys, in case you didn't know, if you're watching this,
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 4: we can read four articles and they all four have
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 4: different facts.
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 2: It's very true.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 4: We have to literally try to go and find court documents,
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 4: things that are actually do coumented that are factual. So
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 4: I think that's important for us to say because the
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 4: fact that you guys spend hundreds of hours doing this,
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 4: I say, thank you, Gwenn. That is one reason why
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 4: you need to respond to them and reach out to
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 4: them on email.
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 2: A safe place.
• 2:24:19
  Speaker 4: And maybe you should come and see us in Ohio
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 4: in July. An you can come to our airbnb. We
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 4: will give you an NDA, we won't tell anyone that
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 4: you're there.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 2: Just do much.
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 4: You're not mind any of this.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 2: She has the idea for super intelligent dogs.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 5: Do you if you come to the airbnb. We're not
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 5: doing the hemosphereic sleep though we are not. I enjoy
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 5: my full sleep.
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 3: Okay program for super intelligence.
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, we're going to put tinfoil on all of
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 4: the windows and all of the space. But I'm just saying,
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 4: I'm on, girl, we won't tell anyone.
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 5: Well, the windows makes a way creepier.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 4: By the way, you just got eaten, and I am sorry.
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  Speaker 5: He hate you?
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 4: You just for eight Okay, that sounds so wrong, just
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 4: for eight your animal cracker.
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: JT or Terry did you have did you finish your
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: closing thought for today? What's going on this case?
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 4: Is I needed to I mean, I'm glad Jasper decided
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 4: to show up. I needed to end it with something
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 4: that can help me sleep tonight because these people are crazy.
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 4: And I am so glad that living in California years ago,
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 4: in the Bay Area, where a lot of this shit happened.
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 4: I've been to those places. I'm glad I didn't live
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 4: there at the time when this happened. M Yeah, because
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 4: now I will say I was never smart enough to
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 4: become one of the I didn't have a bio technical
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 4: engineering YadA, YadA, YadA.
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  Speaker 5: You think the hardy boys, jat, what do you got?
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, Cappin, are you still implying they are
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 4: not real? Tom Hardy has a brother, So there are
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 4: hardy boys. They may not be the hardy boys from
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 4: the book, but they are hardy boys.
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  Speaker 5: I love that. I think the only.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry, the only people that could have researched more on
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 6: this case would have been the Hardy boys.
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  Speaker 2: That's the facts, hard facts. I love the Hardy Boys.
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, the Tom Hardy Boys. I cannot keep my head
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 3: wrapped around this. The concepts or considerations, the friendships, the hatefield, animosity,
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 3: the boats, the sinks, the floats, the floaters, their personalities,
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 3: nor the wish or desire to follow someone like Ziz,
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 3: be around Ziz, be like Ziz, or even have o
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 3: di Ziz. It makes very little sense to me. All
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 3: I'm saying is that I'm glad I drank what I
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 3: did tonight. Honestly, it's the only thing that makes sense anymore.
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 3: I just hope that the law and justice work like
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 3: it should, because these folks just don't deserve the light
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 3: of day any longer. Manipulation of hate to serve one's
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 3: own twisted goals is unforgivable. Then again, so is standing
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 3: on a boat in a black robe using the force
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 3: read post Taco bell gas. The most noble of gases
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 3: to put to pull in an anchor line and just finally,
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 3: you know, our thoughts and prayers go out to the
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 3: victims of the Vancouver Filipino Festival, where victims were aged
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 3: five to sixty five. I even have now total nine.
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 3: Sorry to bring you down, but that's the reality we
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 3: live in today.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: That's so sad, so sad.
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  Speaker 5: Well, sure, I just again, I want to thank everybody
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  Speaker 5: for watching.
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 6: I want to thank the True Crime and One Time
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 6: team for letting me contribute to the series.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 4: A minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Aren't you
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 4: part of that team? Yeah, but this was more of
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 4: a butter eggs.
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 5: This was a different role for me to take on
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 5: here and I lost.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 6: My first time being on camera was this series, and
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 6: that was a step out of my comfort zone, which
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 6: has been great.
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 5: So uh.
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 6: I will say that when while my first told me
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 6: about this case and I looked at the articles on it,
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 6: I did think it was really necessary to cover it
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 6: from a non transphobic place. A lot of what was
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 6: the most popular coverage of it was, in my opinion, horrific.
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 6: So that is why I wanted a part of why
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 6: I wanted to get involved. Obviously, I want to hang out.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 5: With y'all and work with y'all.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 6: But in the spirit of that, I'm gonna be a
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 6: little more serious and not quote Ghostbusters this time. I
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 6: am gonna quote the late great David Lynch, who on
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 6: Twin Peaks the Return spoke the line, well, I'm paraphrasing slightly,
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 6: but in talking about transphobia, he told someone, fix your
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 6: hearts or die. It's tough love, but I support that
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 6: message entirely, so need to fix their hearts. I support
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 6: get into it and that message.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: A great I want to thank you all here for
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: being tonight or did I just watch that or what? Kay?
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 3: Two?
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: Everybody ignore that.
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 4: We're just like, I'm sorry about the noise.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 2: He wants to be a star, of course he does.
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 2: I want to thank you all for being here tonight.
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: I want to thank the staff that has helped with this,
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: especially Captain Kaptain, especially doing all the amazing visuals for
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 2: this has been amazing. I love having her on the show.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: You are welcome to any show ever. You've done great,
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 2: So everybody sent her all the love, especially for this episode.
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: You guys, if you enjoy me, join me on here
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: tomorrow morning at eight thirty a m Eastern God. That
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: sounds rough saying out loud right now, but I will
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: be here. Are on True Crime and Wine Time with
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: couch Court with Lama, where we continue watching the Karen
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: Read retrial with some of my besties. So until next
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 2: next time, go forth and be amazing. It's a fingerheart there,
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 2: it is there, it is you, guys.
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 4: Really you're going to be up at eight thirty.
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm there at eight thirty every morning, Terry, I know.
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 4: But tomorrow after tonight.
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 2: Ambitious Lama did not think this true.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 4: Here we are, I know, I mean, but not on camera.
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 4: I hear so much.
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 2: Anyway, go ahead, Darry.
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 4: Well for those of you that are new here, every
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 4: Monday and Wednesday, I do Midday Missing and it is
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 4: a very serious guy. There's no funny stuff going on there.
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 4: We are talking about families that are missing their loved ones.
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 4: In fact, at my best die's birthday party last night,
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 4: I met someone who's had a brother men missing over
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 4: twenty years here tech and we are going to be
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 4: covering his case. So amore, if you're watching, I am
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 4: so glad Cheryl, you know, hooked us up. We will
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 4: be covering that case. I mean, on our show, we
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 4: have been so blessed with so many families coming on
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 4: that interview, and sometimes we talk to them behind the
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 4: scenes because they don't want to come on camera, because guys,
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 4: think about it, you don't sign up to have a
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 4: loved one go missing and have to get out there
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 4: and talk about it and me on camera. And we
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 4: respect that. So I'm just grateful for any of the
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 4: families that want to come on and talk with us.
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 4: But we are live every Monday and Wednesday. But please understand,
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 4: during the Karen Ree trial, Midday Missing will happen. Durren
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 4: judge Bev's court time for lunch, and I was told
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 4: she was a punctual person. She did everything by the clock.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 4: After last week, I'm gonna just say Bev's having a
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 4: menopause moment or two and she is not on schedule.
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 4: So with that being said, one fifteen Eastern twelve to
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 4: fifteenth Central, sometime between one o'clock and two o'clock, we
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 4: are going to go live with Midday Missing.
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 2: It could be as early as twelve. It'd be quite honest,
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it could be.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 4: You know what they need to do, they need to
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 4: they need to join in.
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 2: They need to hit that notification bell because guess what
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 2: that does. That notifies you when you hit the little bell,
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 2: that notification bell, it tells you when we're going to
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 2: be live, so you will not miss Midday Missing.
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 4: So if we're late, if we say we're going live
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 4: at one fifteen and it's you'll get notified when we
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 4: hit the go live button. So we are doing that
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 4: because Midday Missing is something that me Lama JT producer Amy,
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 4: We're never going to give it up. It is a
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 4: priority for all of us, even Jasper here who just tooted,
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 4: thank you for that, Jasper, Yes, oh thank you, Sammy Sunshine.
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 4: And with that being said, it his gas is great.
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 4: But with the Midday Missing, if you know someone that's
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 4: in your community that's missing and nobody's talking about it,
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 4: or even if it's getting a little bit, send us
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 4: the information. We will cover it on Midday Missing. And
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 4: if it's a loved one and you want to come
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 4: on and share information with us, please reach out to
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 4: us because Midday Missing is all about helping the families.
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, I wear my fine Bianca bracelet all the
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 4: time and I have my Ryan Dinosaur behind on my bookshelf.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 4: We care and I am consistently reaching out to families
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 4: we have I think you said Lama earlier. We have
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 4: four families right now that remains have been found in
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 4: the areas where their loved ones went missing, and they
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 4: are currently doing DNA to find out if that is
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 4: a match. So I guess he's gonna be coliapy and
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 4: give us his bump. He just left for some reason.
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 4: But so it matters because just because the remains are
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 4: found doesn't mean we're going to stop, because the family
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 4: need answers of how. And you're so right, savey sunshine.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 4: If you see something, say something. So now, on a
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 4: more positive note, Saturday May third, JT will be in Austin, Texas.
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 4: We will be together and we will be on the
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 4: stage at a winery with wine everywhere. Come back, he's
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 4: trying to eat our backdrop.
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 3: I did not consent to a wet T shirt contest
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 3: from wine.
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 4: There will be no wet T shirt contest.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 3: We will.
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 4: You can buy tickets. They are still on sale, so
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 4: I learned today. The discount codes are good through tomorrow.
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 4: Oh nice. So the VIP tickets you can get ten
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 4: dollars off if you use the code TCWT for general admission,
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 4: you can get five dollars off if you use wine
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 4: wi ine as your code. I mean, what better code
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 4: is there than that. Now, we do have Chase Lackey's
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 4: dad who is on our special investigation into Chase Lackey,
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 4: Craig Lackie, will be with us at the live event
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 4: and we will do a brief overview of his case.
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 4: So we're excited about that. And then in July we're
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 4: going to Marion, Ohio. No learn what kind of wine
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 4: they have in Marion, Ohio. The guy's the best part,
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 4: Lama J T. Terry Amos. We are going to be
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 4: together in the flesh and blood.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: I hear rumors about a cap in maybe, Oh my god,
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 2: cap I've heard rumors.
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 5: Ever since Columbus was closer than Virginia was like, oh weird.
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 4: There will be a lot of live stuff happening. There
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 4: will be a lot of videos. I've already talked to
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 4: Double H about helping me get a camera that I
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 4: can install that no one knows about in the party room.
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 2: I mean that's fine as long as we charge five dollars.
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 4: And everybody will give consent to what's posted, so anyone
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 4: that you know wants to join us, we are blessed
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 4: for that. And we have a live show that's going
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 4: to happen in August in Crosby, Texas, where we are
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 4: covering the disappearance of Chase Lackey. And then tonight I
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 4: talked to where I was for doing the wine tasting
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 4: and we are working on a live show for September.
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 2: Woo, that's so exciting. I love that.
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 4: So I just want to say, everybody stays safe. Speak up,
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 4: don't get a goat that lives in your house that
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 4: wants to eat your background and who's a diva?
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 2: And I start, I'm trying to call.
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 4: And enjoy your wine time because without wine, in my opinion,
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 4: life can be really boring.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 2: I'm so boring.
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 4: Agreed, roll of wrapping paper in case anybody wants to know.
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 4: If I could turn the camera, I would.
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: I'm hungry for that too. Jasper Hi, I'm on jtuh.
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 3: We've got one more TCWT live before our appearance in
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 3: Austin this Thursday, and it's gonna be at nine eastern
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 3: eighth Central. In the case we are calling Wine, Wealth
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 3: and Murder. The Robert Dahl horror, and I'm just gonna
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 3: leave it at that until then, take care of yourself,
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 3: your friends, your family, and your community. Do not let
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 3: anybody dull your sparkle and shine on, Shine on you,
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 3: crazy diamonds, Shine on all right, Bye, everybody, We'll see
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 3: you soon House Court with Lama tomorrow eight thirty.
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 5: Be there.
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 3: I don't care how drug you are right now, You're
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 3: gonna be there tomorrow. Hi, everybody,