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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Friday, the twenty third of May
- 0:13Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. We're a little bit after one o'clock.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Welcome to UK column News. I'm your hopes. Brian Gerrish
- 0:18Speaker 1: delighted up with me in the studio. Patrick Heningson, great
- 0:22Speaker 1: to be with you, Brian, okay, excellent, and we've also
- 0:25Speaker 1: got Mark Anderson joining us from the United States bylive
- 0:29Speaker 1: video link. Now we've got an interesting mix of news
- 0:33Speaker 1: for you today because we're going to be having a
- 0:36Speaker 1: look at what seems to me at least to be
- 0:39Speaker 1: the rush towards deeper war with the Russians, and of
- 0:42Speaker 1: course Britain and the BBC at the lead of that charge.
- 0:47Speaker 1: We're going to be having a look at relations between
- 0:50Speaker 1: what Americans are thinking about Israel. We're going to be
- 0:54Speaker 1: having a look at Trump's comments in relation to South Africa.
- 1:00Speaker 1: And we've also got an update on that mysterious political
- 1:04Speaker 1: advisor that we mentioned on Monday, Charles Smith. And while
- 1:10Speaker 1: Hanson is also going to be covering a little bit
- 1:13Speaker 1: on the Trilateral Commission, one of the powerful agencies at
- 1:17Speaker 1: work helping drive global political policy. So I think this
- 1:23Speaker 1: is going to keep us busy. Patrick So let's kick
- 1:27Speaker 1: off with how the BBC views the world. And here
- 1:32Speaker 1: we've got their report, which was clearly delighted that the
- 1:37Speaker 1: Germans are now putting troops into Lithuania. I'll just put
- 1:41Speaker 1: a little banner over this. The German troops are to
- 1:44Speaker 1: be sent permanently to Lithuania's eastern border. Now, if we
- 1:51Speaker 1: just play this little video clip, we can have a
- 1:54Speaker 1: we can get a little bit of a feel for
- 1:56Speaker 1: the pomp and ceremony about the Germans arriving back in Lithuania,
- 2:01Speaker 1: and then we're going to show some other clips and
- 2:04Speaker 1: comment on what the reality of the history the relation
- 2:08Speaker 1: with the German army in Lithuania is. But let's see
- 2:11Speaker 1: the pomp and ceremony. Well, Patrick, great music, uplifting as
- 2:48Speaker 1: the military get onto the eastern flank of NATO. And
- 2:52Speaker 1: to my mind, this is another provocation of the situation
- 2:56Speaker 1: with Russia. I don't know whether you have any immediate
- 2:59Speaker 1: reaction to seeing those happy troops on the ground and
- 3:03Speaker 1: the cheerful music.
- 3:04Speaker 2: No, I can only say that to the Baltic States
- 3:06Speaker 2: are among the most virulent anti Russian forces right now
- 3:11Speaker 2: within NATO and the European Union.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Yeah, so what have we got going on? Well, let's
- 3:16Speaker 1: have a look at how the BBC reported this arrival
- 3:20Speaker 1: of the German troops.
- 3:24Speaker 3: I'm on a German military plane heading to Lithuania because
- 3:29Speaker 3: Lithuania is where Germany is in the process of setting
- 3:33Speaker 3: up a brigade there in response to Russian aggression. And
- 3:37Speaker 3: this is a big deal for Germany because it will
- 3:40Speaker 3: be the first permanent foreign troop deployment it's done since
- 3:45Speaker 3: World War II. This display by the German army in
- 3:55Speaker 3: a country the Nazis once occupied would have been almost
- 4:00Speaker 3: unthinkable not long ago. Germany has been seen as a
- 4:03Speaker 3: country with an underfunded military and a nation too that's
- 4:06Speaker 3: almost allergic to showing military might because of its past.
- 4:11Speaker 3: But now the German Chancellor, Friedrich Mertz says he wants
- 4:14Speaker 3: Germany to have the strongest conventional army in Europe as
- 4:17Speaker 3: a way of deterring future aggressors.
- 4:19Speaker 4: Peace in Europe has been broken each and every day.
- 4:25Speaker 5: Russia is wirelighting no order that recollectively adopted as a
- 4:31Speaker 5: lesson from the horrors of the.
- 4:34Speaker 4: Second World War.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Lithuania is on what's known as the Eastern flank of
- 4:38Speaker 3: the NATO Military Alliance, a small country. It borders Belarus,
- 4:42Speaker 3: Moscow's ally and the Russian exclave Kaliningrad.
- 4:49Speaker 1: Well, there we are another happy BBC video, clearly delighted
- 4:53Speaker 1: that the German troops are back in Lithuania. And there
- 4:57Speaker 1: was the underlying reason because those no Russians have upset
- 5:01Speaker 1: our order. If you listen to it, to what the
- 5:04Speaker 1: Chancellor was saying, there, the order that's been established by
- 5:08Speaker 1: the West, nobody can touch that. So the German troops
- 5:13Speaker 1: now going overseas. This in my mind is a very
- 5:16Speaker 1: very dangerous escalation of the situation in Eastern Europe, but
- 5:23Speaker 1: the BBC absolutely not concerned about it. Now I've got
- 5:27Speaker 1: another little video clip here about Lithuania. This is going
- 5:32Speaker 1: back to the Nazis in Lithuania. If you want to
- 5:37Speaker 1: or you feel the neat look away, because there's some
- 5:40Speaker 1: very very upsetting images in this clip. But I think
- 5:43Speaker 1: we need to put it on screen to understand why
- 5:47Speaker 1: the average person in Western Europe should be very concerned
- 5:51Speaker 1: about what Germany is now up to with the full
- 5:54Speaker 1: support of UK and the European Union. Let's have a
- 5:57Speaker 1: look at this little clip.
- 6:01Speaker 6: Then, in the summer of nineteen forty one, the Germans
- 6:03Speaker 6: invaded the Soviet Union and occupied Lithuania. Many of the
- 6:07Speaker 6: local citizens collaborated with the Nazis and within six months
- 6:12Speaker 6: fifty thousand of the seventy thousand Vilnius Jews were killed.
- 6:20Speaker 1: So we man't no apologies for putting that little clip up,
- 6:23Speaker 1: And of course we could put up a lot more
- 6:27Speaker 1: material about the horrors that went on in Lithuania as
- 6:30Speaker 1: a result of the Nazi German troops on the grounds.
- 6:34Speaker 1: But for the BBC, what happened to the Jewish population,
- 6:38Speaker 1: and indeed what happened to the population Lithuania as a whole,
- 6:41Speaker 1: that's of absolutely no concern. The BBC is thrilled to
- 6:46Speaker 1: have the German army back on the ground. Patrick as
- 6:49Speaker 1: I put this section together, the arrogance and the I
- 6:55Speaker 1: run out of words really to describe the BBC and
- 6:58Speaker 1: what's going on here. Can can anybody be elated that
- 7:02Speaker 1: we've got Germany now talking about building a substantial army
- 7:07Speaker 1: and getting into Lithuania to ramp up the tension with
- 7:12Speaker 1: the Russians. It's madness.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Well, you say you've run out of Wordzbrian, but the
- 7:16Speaker 2: BBC provided those words for you. Did you hear the
- 7:19Speaker 2: reporter on the ground, She said, what was once unthinkable? Well,
- 7:22Speaker 2: it's still unthinkable, but unthinkable once once is past tense
- 7:26Speaker 2: for the BBC, but for normal people, for people who
- 7:29Speaker 2: live in that region, people who remember the legacy of
- 7:32Speaker 2: the Second World War, it is still unthinkable. And Frederick
- 7:36Speaker 2: Mertz said that Russia has broken the peace in Europe.
- 7:40Speaker 2: What did NATO do to Yugoslavia, by the way, in
- 7:43Speaker 2: the nineties, Where does that come into that equation?
- 7:47Speaker 1: You want to start with the bombing?
- 7:48Speaker 2: Should we just how about seventy five days of bombing
- 7:50Speaker 2: Belgrade straight and then partitioning countries and drawing borders. And
- 7:54Speaker 2: then what about the minx peace process that was confirmed
- 7:58Speaker 2: by the UN Security Council, Britain, France and the other
- 8:01Speaker 2: major powers all agree to unanimously. They let that lapse intentionally,
- 8:06Speaker 2: We have that on record. And what about NATO expansion?
- 8:09Speaker 2: What about commitments made by previous governments in the US
- 8:12Speaker 2: and so forth not to expand eastward. Maybe it's maybe
- 8:16Speaker 2: NATO broke the peace in Europe. Is that a controversial statement?
- 8:19Speaker 1: Well, it absolutely is a controversial statement, Patrick, because you're
- 8:23Speaker 1: not allowed to say it. And although I've been a
- 8:26Speaker 1: huge critic of Nigel Frage. In many areas, When Nigel
- 8:30Speaker 1: Frage talked about this publicly, he was vilified for daring
- 8:35Speaker 1: to suggest that maybe NATO policy was wrong. And here
- 8:39Speaker 1: we are now. The fighting hasn't stopped in Ukraine. We're
- 8:42Speaker 1: ramping up the tension. BBC delighted those German troops are
- 8:47Speaker 1: going overseas. But I'm going to encourage our viewers if
- 8:51Speaker 1: you really want to understand the horrors of German troops
- 8:55Speaker 1: in Lithuania and other countries on the eastern flanks of
- 9:00Speaker 1: of the European Union, just simply look at some really
- 9:03Speaker 1: excellent documentaries online, truly astonishing.
- 9:07Speaker 2: I just wondered they didn't show in that last historical
- 9:12Speaker 2: film you showed, which was excellent, but it left out
- 9:14Speaker 2: something brain you know what? That was the ending? How
- 9:17Speaker 2: did it end for the Germans after Operation bay Grayshohn.
- 9:21Speaker 2: It didn't end well for Germany.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Destroyed a destroyed country in Europe and Europe and millionsteads.
- 9:28Speaker 1: You're absolutely right on that. Let me just add this,
- 9:32Speaker 1: because this is the way that the UK is crowing
- 9:35Speaker 1: about this very dangerous situation. I've put in this headline here.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Great news for UK we're going to ramp up the war.
- 9:43Speaker 1: We're going to build EU defense unification. This is something
- 9:47Speaker 1: many people thought had gone away, but of course it
- 9:50Speaker 1: was Brexit without the exit, and now Germany is allowing
- 9:54Speaker 1: the UK to build the gun barrels for this future
- 9:58Speaker 1: war that these peop are trying to create. What am
- 10:02Speaker 1: I talking about, Well, first of all, I'm just going
- 10:03Speaker 1: to bring in this look at the colors that are
- 10:07Speaker 1: being used in order to report sanctions against Putin. This
- 10:12Speaker 1: is like Nazi Germany, the stamp the red and the
- 10:16Speaker 1: black and the Russians to be attacked. This is a
- 10:21Speaker 1: report from This is Defense HQ twitter stream where they're
- 10:26Speaker 1: talking about the wonderful rise of the UK EU Security
- 10:31Speaker 1: and Defense Partnership. UK column warning and warning and warning
- 10:35Speaker 1: about this over many years, and of course it never
- 10:38Speaker 1: went away. It's now broken surface. And here is the
- 10:42Speaker 1: beggy pardon, let's come through those again. Let's come to
- 10:45Speaker 1: this which a little bit of a technical issue here,
- 10:50Speaker 1: see whether we can do this? Will it behave itself?
- 10:55Speaker 7: No?
- 10:56Speaker 1: I don't know why. That is the last of those
- 10:58Speaker 1: slides is actually saying that the German company Rhyine Metal
- 11:03Speaker 1: is going to allow is going to help little UK
- 11:08Speaker 1: to build gun barrels, So no real jobs and expertise
- 11:13Speaker 1: for British companies. We're going to use a German company
- 11:18Speaker 1: in UK to build the gun barrels for this future war.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Patrick, outrageous, and we've learned anything from the last eighty years,
- 11:27Speaker 2: that's the fundamental question. Well, I'm going to say I have,
- 11:30Speaker 2: but I'm not sure the BBC has at all with
- 11:33Speaker 2: the Royal we need.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Indeed, so whilst we've got the European rules based International
- 11:40Speaker 1: Order ramping up war in Europe, we've got what a
- 11:45Speaker 1: distracting dialogue in America now with Trump.
- 11:48Speaker 2: It's very distracting, but it's actually much more once you
- 11:51Speaker 2: dig beneath the surface on this. This is a fascinating story.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Donald Trump has really outdone himself, Brian. And remember what
- 12:02Speaker 2: he did to Zelenski at the end of February where
- 12:04Speaker 2: he invited him to the White House and really took
- 12:06Speaker 2: him out publicly and to great applause from a lot
- 12:11Speaker 2: of people. Obviously, Zelensky not a particularly popular character. But
- 12:15Speaker 2: South Africa's had very friendly relations with the United States
- 12:18Speaker 2: for a very long time, and they've always had good
- 12:21Speaker 2: Republicans and Democrats, Brian, So what's changed in the last
- 12:26Speaker 2: twelve months.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Well, I would say propaganda, Patrick, but you take his
- 12:30Speaker 1: through this segment.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Well, so Sarah Ramaposa was invited for a state visit
- 12:35Speaker 2: to the Oval Office, and he's probably expecting there was
- 12:39Speaker 2: going to be some aggression from Trump. So he brought
- 12:42Speaker 2: his white agricultural minister and two top PGA golfers because
- 12:47Speaker 2: Trump loves golf. Very canny by Sarah Ramaposa, South Afcan President.
- 12:51Speaker 2: But that wasn't enough. Donald Trump basically unleashed what can
- 12:56Speaker 2: only be described, Brian, by not just myself but many
- 13:00Speaker 2: others as a as an absolute tsunami of propaganda, uh
- 13:04Speaker 2: to to basically demean the fame and to discredit the
- 13:08Speaker 2: president and his government. And we'll tell you why in
- 13:10Speaker 2: a moment. Here's Donald Trump and a small clip from
- 13:13Speaker 2: from their exchange yesterday.
- 13:16Speaker 4: That I could show you a couple of things, and
- 13:19Speaker 4: I would, I just I have to. It has to
- 13:22Speaker 4: be responded to. Sure, we have let me see.
- 13:25Speaker 8: The articles plays of a you would and excuse me,
- 13:28Speaker 8: turn the lights down, turn the lights down and just.
- 13:32Speaker 4: Put this on. It's right behind you.
- 13:35Speaker 8: John, It's not the disparliament get We talked you people
- 13:40Speaker 8: that went toward my land with let me said from
- 13:44Speaker 8: you from the president from what a few days, death
- 13:50Speaker 8: of people, death, death, death.
- 13:57Speaker 4: Horrible death.
- 14:02Speaker 2: It's pretty incredibly. He had a stack of internet articles.
- 14:06Speaker 2: We can't see what they were. We found one of
- 14:07Speaker 2: them by doing a zoom in on the screenshot and
- 14:10Speaker 2: it was from the American Thinker and it was actually
- 14:12Speaker 2: from a Congolese murder case of women in the Congo,
- 14:17Speaker 2: black African women. And he showed a Clipbrian, of this thing.
- 14:22Speaker 2: A lot of people seen on social media of white
- 14:24Speaker 2: crosses along the road in South Africa, and Trump said
- 14:28Speaker 2: this was a mass grave, and there was a massacre,
- 14:31Speaker 2: and those were graves of people who have been slaughtered
- 14:34Speaker 2: by blacks, white farmers that have been slaughtered in the
- 14:37Speaker 2: implication is there's a white genocide in South Africa. So
- 14:40Speaker 2: Trump basically laid all this on and basically really embarrassing
- 14:45Speaker 2: for the South African present, and probably it's going to
- 14:48Speaker 2: make quite a few other world leaders think twice about
- 14:51Speaker 2: accepting invitations to the Oval Office. But the white crosses
- 14:55Speaker 2: is interesting, Brian. We did some research on this and
- 14:58Speaker 2: it turns out it's not a mask those are crosses
- 15:02Speaker 2: that have been put as a memorial to two white farmers,
- 15:06Speaker 2: a couple that was killed. The memorial was set up
- 15:09Speaker 2: by all the residents. In twenty twenty, black and white
- 15:12Speaker 2: residents came together to do a vigil giant display of unity,
- 15:17Speaker 2: and Trump, Elon Musk and the others have cynically twisted
- 15:20Speaker 2: this into a propaganda exercise of division, stoking absolute race
- 15:26Speaker 2: eight on an international level. Here's a documentary showing the
- 15:30Speaker 2: story of the crosses that Trump left out of his
- 15:33Speaker 2: presentation with Ramaposa. Here it is.
- 15:38Speaker 9: So what happened to him although he is white. We
- 15:42Speaker 9: don't look at the kana. We look at what we
- 15:46Speaker 9: are doing. We're doing the same thing all farmers. Next time,
- 15:52Speaker 9: it's going to kill me.
- 15:53Speaker 10: We here this morning at Newcastle, about away last week
- 15:58Speaker 10: there was a couple just outside towards Norman Deanway. So
- 16:02Speaker 10: all the farmers and yeah, everyone interested in the cause
- 16:05Speaker 10: has gathered together now and we are going to be
- 16:08Speaker 10: driving from Newcastle to Norman Dean to the farm where
- 16:10Speaker 10: the couple was murdered. And yeah, and fighting for the cause,
- 16:14Speaker 10: for fighting for the farmers, fighting for equality, fighting against corruption.
- 16:19Speaker 11: Fighter a local farmer and friend of the refitees, Rob Hodson,
- 16:25Speaker 11: put up hundreds of crosses along the road leading to
- 16:28Speaker 11: their farm. Almost overnight, three thousand people climbed into one
- 16:33Speaker 11: thousands so vehicles, directors, BUCkies, sprayers, trucks, combies and cars.
- 16:40Speaker 11: It took hours for the somber precision to pass the
- 16:42Speaker 11: boulevard of crossing.
- 16:46Speaker 2: So Brian Trump showed this these images without any context
- 16:50Speaker 2: to the South African president, put them on the spot
- 16:52Speaker 2: in front of the world audience and said that was
- 16:54Speaker 2: a genocide, mass grave.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Go and make another Just come in to make another
- 17:00Speaker 1: point there, Patrick is when Trump was holding up the
- 17:03Speaker 1: pages another death, another death, another death. He could have
- 17:07Speaker 1: done this during COVID. That's one thing I got to say.
- 17:10Speaker 1: But the second thing is he wasn't doing that during
- 17:13Speaker 1: the attacks in Gaza. No, we weren't seeing here's another thousand,
- 17:20Speaker 1: here's another ten thousand. So the point that I think
- 17:24Speaker 1: it's important for our audience to really think about is
- 17:27Speaker 1: why is there this sudden switch between massive death and
- 17:31Speaker 1: carnage in Ukraine and Gaza to South Africa. So this
- 17:36Speaker 1: is not belittling the people who've been killed in South Africa.
- 17:40Speaker 1: We know there's some terrible things going on there, But
- 17:43Speaker 1: why the massive switch in attention? This is the key issue.
- 17:47Speaker 2: I've got the explanation for that in the moment. But
- 17:49Speaker 2: the other thing that Trump didn't mention, Brian is more
- 17:52Speaker 2: farmers in America have committed suicide from the banks doing
- 17:56Speaker 2: predatory you know, land seizures and taking their proper he's
- 18:00Speaker 2: away and making basically the farming industry impossible. For small
- 18:05Speaker 2: to medium size, family owned farms in America, the suicide
- 18:09Speaker 2: rate is off the charts, and it dwarfs any murders
- 18:13Speaker 2: of white farmers and black farmers in the whole of
- 18:16Speaker 2: South Africa. And that's in the United States of America.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Where's Donald Trump for the American people?
- 18:22Speaker 1: This is to me, this is switching. This is a
- 18:26Speaker 1: massive attempt to switch world views from one area of
- 18:31Speaker 1: the world to somewhere completely different. He doesn't want to
- 18:34Speaker 1: point it back on America because that would destabilize his
- 18:37Speaker 1: own position if he was to talk about these problems
- 18:40Speaker 1: in America.
- 18:40Speaker 2: But it's gaslighting on a geopolitical level. So not only
- 18:44Speaker 2: was this memorial that wasn't a mass grave. We did
- 18:48Speaker 2: a little checking, Brian. We used Google maps, we looked
- 18:51Speaker 2: at the coordinates of where this was outside of Newcastle
- 18:56Speaker 2: in South Africa, and we'll bring the image up on
- 18:58Speaker 2: screen here obviously any but he can do this at home.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Even Donald Trump's research team has access to Google Maps,
- 19:05Speaker 2: I'm sure. So the memorial site, here's a shot, Brian.
- 19:08Speaker 2: The crosses have been removed. This is a two year
- 19:11Speaker 2: old picture, so the crosses have been gone for two
- 19:15Speaker 2: years from that memorial. But Donald Trump is showing it
- 19:18Speaker 2: to the world as if it's a mass grave now,
- 19:21Speaker 2: so it's not only is it not a mass grave,
- 19:23Speaker 2: the crosses aren't even there anymore. So can he afford
- 19:26Speaker 2: I mean, I'm happy to provide research services for the
- 19:30Speaker 2: White House UK com we'll do it for you when
- 19:33Speaker 2: we'll do it for free because we have access to
- 19:35Speaker 2: Google so we feel very well equipped in that respect.
- 19:40Speaker 2: But this is what it's all about. We'll go to
- 19:42Speaker 2: the next image here, Brian. And this is the controversial item.
- 19:49Speaker 2: Here South Africa rejects Trump's accusations on land seizures. So
- 19:55Speaker 2: this is all about from Trump's gaslighting anyway, the Land
- 19:59Speaker 2: of pro Creations Act controversial that has recently passed. What
- 20:03Speaker 2: this was doing. And here's the irony again. Here's the
- 20:06Speaker 2: iron again. The old Act was a nineteen seventy five
- 20:09Speaker 2: apartheid era Act Brian which had all kinds of very
- 20:13Speaker 2: harsh government apartheid government land expropriation clauses. What this did
- 20:19Speaker 2: is put in due process for the government has to
- 20:22Speaker 2: go through a rigorous due process of applications and compensation
- 20:27Speaker 2: for emminent domain. We have eminent domain laws in America.
- 20:31Speaker 2: The government needs it for a highway or to do anything.
- 20:34Speaker 2: Britain has it, the military uses it in all countries.
- 20:37Speaker 2: South Africa now has updated that and that has been
- 20:40Speaker 2: twisted by Elon Musk, Marco Rubio and Donald Trump to
- 20:43Speaker 2: make it like this is a law to confiscate white
- 20:47Speaker 2: land and pay no compensation. It's a total lie. I mean,
- 20:51Speaker 2: we could go into the details of that legislation, which
- 20:53Speaker 2: I've done on this program with Mike Robinson a couple
- 20:56Speaker 2: of months ago, but that's the fact of it all.
- 20:59Speaker 2: So again more but we've done a full We provided
- 21:02Speaker 2: a full analysis on this up at twenty first century
- 21:06Speaker 2: wire dot com. Just see the top story today. Trump's
- 21:09Speaker 2: white genocide in South Africa from fake news to orchestrated propaganda.
- 21:14Speaker 2: So really, good comparative analysis shows all the crime data
- 21:17Speaker 2: to the political system. How where all these fringe parties
- 21:21Speaker 2: like Julius Malema, the guy who you heard his voice talking,
- 21:24Speaker 2: who's actually a number of court cases against him by
- 21:28Speaker 2: the government of South Africa and so forth. But you
- 21:32Speaker 2: have to go no further than Afro Form. The Afrikaans,
- 21:35Speaker 2: one of their political representatives was asked point blank in
- 21:38Speaker 2: a big podcast in South Africa, is there a white genocide?
- 21:42Speaker 2: Here's what he said.
- 21:46Speaker 7: Everyone who's lost someone to murder and especially cruse and murder,
- 21:50Speaker 7: and in this context on the phone, whether they're an
- 21:52Speaker 7: or no or worker, I'd like to share my sympathies
- 21:55Speaker 7: and condolences to anyone that you may know personally and
- 21:59Speaker 7: that maybe some of your may know personally. In the
- 22:03Speaker 7: discussion of some of these matters, and it's very important
- 22:05Speaker 7: that we discuss them. We need to always raise the
- 22:09Speaker 7: importance of the human element. And then also on behalf
- 22:14Speaker 7: of Africa Forum, are you saying white genuside does not
- 22:16Speaker 7: exist in South Africa, whether farm murders or otherwise.
- 22:19Speaker 12: There's not a white genoside going on in South Africa.
- 22:22Speaker 12: And the afric Forum doesn't claim that there is one.
- 22:25Speaker 12: So it's not just me talking and talking as a
- 22:26Speaker 12: representative of every forum. Okay, that is not the reality
- 22:30Speaker 12: in South Africa, and we've devastated.
- 22:32Speaker 1: Is a lot of questions to be asked Patrick on this,
- 22:38Speaker 1: and we want to look at the audience in the
- 22:40Speaker 1: eye and say we know that we've got viewers and
- 22:43Speaker 1: listeners in South Africa. We know there's huge problems in
- 22:47Speaker 1: that country. But at the moment there's something very sinister
- 22:51Speaker 1: going on over the top of what's happening on a
- 22:54Speaker 1: national level.
- 22:56Speaker 2: And where did this all come from, Brian? Where how
- 22:57Speaker 2: did this come to the fore? How did this reach
- 22:59Speaker 2: the White House level? It started with Elon Musk and
- 23:02Speaker 2: it's also then was picked up by Marco Rubio. Both
- 23:06Speaker 2: Mark Rubio and Elon Musk are very much in the
- 23:09Speaker 2: capture zone of the Israeli lobby. They tweet pretty much
- 23:13Speaker 2: the same things all the time, along with other top
- 23:15Speaker 2: Israeli accounts, along with Tommy Robinson's pretty much a carbon
- 23:19Speaker 2: copy of all how they tweet at the same time
- 23:21Speaker 2: on all of these issues. So there's clearly campaigns going on.
- 23:24Speaker 2: But why would you attack South Africa? Why what did
- 23:28Speaker 2: South Africa do in the last two years.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Well, I guess does it take attention away from something.
- 23:34Speaker 2: Note to discredit South Africa, And we'll bring this up
- 23:36Speaker 2: on screen here. Let's not forget South Africa. Israel not
- 23:40Speaker 2: complying with the World Court order in a genocide case
- 23:43Speaker 2: filed by South Africa. So there is basically a campaign,
- 23:49Speaker 2: an effort to discredit the government in South Africa, to
- 23:52Speaker 2: create the idea of a genocide in South Africa while
- 23:55Speaker 2: diminishing an actual genocide happening in Gaza. So these two
- 24:01Speaker 2: things are absolutely politically linked. And we'll bring this up
- 24:04Speaker 2: up on stage. Just further proof, Israel asking the US
- 24:07Speaker 2: Congress to pressure putting pressure on Congress to get South
- 24:11Speaker 2: Africa to drop the ICJ genocide case and also to
- 24:15Speaker 2: curtail aid to South Africa. So Israel and the lobby
- 24:18Speaker 2: are very much involved in attacking the country of South Africa.
- 24:22Speaker 2: That's where this is coming from. Anybody can see it
- 24:25Speaker 2: with a moticum of basic research. And just to add
- 24:29Speaker 2: a little bit of substance to this, one of the
- 24:32Speaker 2: main spokespersons here on the white genocide campaign in America
- 24:35Speaker 2: is a man named Ernst Roetz, and he is heavily
- 24:39Speaker 2: promoted by the Daily Wire. Here Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson,
- 24:43Speaker 2: they fly him over to the United States. A lot
- 24:46Speaker 2: of money is being spent to bring these people campaigning
- 24:50Speaker 2: and promoting the idea of a white genocide in South
- 24:53Speaker 2: Africa across certain podcasts, mainly the Daily Wire, another pro
- 24:59Speaker 2: Israel and pro o Zionist lobby media outlets. Because again
- 25:03Speaker 2: this is part of a political pr exercise, a propaganda campaign,
- 25:08Speaker 2: it's pretty clear. And they come over to raise funds
- 25:11Speaker 2: for NGOs in America. So America's backing licksnis Brian America's
- 25:16Speaker 2: backing NGOs in foreign countries to help these stabilize the government.
- 25:20Speaker 2: Isn't that what they Trump and everyone have accused the
- 25:22Speaker 2: left of doing with the USAID And then they're weaponizing crime,
- 25:27Speaker 2: basic crime in a country and putting a race theme
- 25:30Speaker 2: on it, which is exactly what the left did with
- 25:32Speaker 2: George Floyd. That's what Ben Shapiro and these people made
- 25:35Speaker 2: their career off of calling out the radical left, the
- 25:39Speaker 2: woke left, for doing exactly this, instrumentalizing what's crime and
- 25:44Speaker 2: then turning into race war, a race war. Basically, we
- 25:48Speaker 2: called it race hustling back in the old days.
- 25:50Speaker 1: And The irony is they do all this whilst calling
- 25:53Speaker 1: themselves the rules based international order, as if they sit
- 25:58Speaker 1: on a platform of HOI moral standards.
- 26:01Speaker 2: So everything George Soros, it does, Brian, the Right is
- 26:05Speaker 2: now doing as well, but for different issues. But the
- 26:08Speaker 2: mechanisms are exactly the same. Yeah, and that's the point.
- 26:12Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, what an excellent point to bring in
- 26:16Speaker 1: Mark Anders and Mark, welcome to Sorry, you've got one
- 26:20Speaker 1: more to cover all.
- 26:21Speaker 2: Well, I was going to introduce this, but we'll bring
- 26:23Speaker 2: in Mark and then I'll go to that.
- 26:24Speaker 1: Well, let's let's bring you on the screen. Mark, And
- 26:27Speaker 1: just fascinating how all of this has been coming together
- 26:30Speaker 1: and the information that we've got for today's UK column
- 26:35Speaker 1: News because you've been having a look at what the
- 26:38Speaker 1: American opinion of Israel is. But you had to add
- 26:42Speaker 1: to that post before.
- 26:43Speaker 2: We get to that. And Mark does have some very
- 26:45Speaker 2: compelling data to share with us. But Mike, have you noticed, Brian,
- 26:48Speaker 2: In the last two weeks the narrative has shifted mainstream
- 26:52Speaker 2: media outlets. European leaders are basically saying it's a genocide
- 26:56Speaker 2: in Gaza after being completely silent about it for the
- 27:00Speaker 2: last nineteen twenty months. Have you noticed this. It's a
- 27:03Speaker 2: sea change, it's a major pivot. And here's Jonathan Cook,
- 27:08Speaker 2: an amazing journalist here and he's saying, ignores Starmar's theatrics,
- 27:11Speaker 2: Gaza's trail of blood leads straight to his door. Why
- 27:15Speaker 2: is this narrative come, Let's take a look at what
- 27:18Speaker 2: Jonathan Cook says. He said the establishment media's narrative had
- 27:22Speaker 2: to shift first, so that the sudden outpouring of moral
- 27:25Speaker 2: and political concern at Gaza's suffering from the British Prime
- 27:29Speaker 2: Minister kir Starmer, French President Emmanuel Macron, Canadian Prime Minister
- 27:34Speaker 2: Mark Harney after more than a year and a half
- 27:36Speaker 2: of indifference did not appear so abrupt or too strange.
- 27:41Speaker 2: And he goes on and he says they are acting
- 27:43Speaker 2: as if some corner has been turned in Israel's genocide.
- 27:47Speaker 2: That but genocides don't have corners. They just progress relentlessly
- 27:51Speaker 2: until stopped. And he finally concludes, the media and politicians
- 27:55Speaker 2: are carefully managing any cognitive dissonance for their public. So
- 28:00Speaker 2: they're basically what Jonathan Cook is saying, Brian, is they
- 28:03Speaker 2: are setting up a reconfiguration of the narrative a reframing
- 28:07Speaker 2: exercise is happening right now. What is it going to
- 28:11Speaker 2: lead to? Is it's an attack on Iran? Is this
- 28:13Speaker 2: to somehow marginalize bb net Yahoo and move him off
- 28:18Speaker 2: the stage to be replaced by another Israeli leader, thus
- 28:22Speaker 2: diminishing the responsibility of the State of Israel and putting
- 28:25Speaker 2: it all on Netanyahu. That will wait and see what's
- 28:28Speaker 2: going to happen the next couple of weeks. But it
- 28:30Speaker 2: is happening. There is a concerted campaign in effort, a
- 28:33Speaker 2: coordinated rapid response effort happening.
- 28:37Speaker 4: Right.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Let's bring you in Mark, because you've been watching what
- 28:41Speaker 1: the American public are thinking about Israel.
- 28:47Speaker 4: Indeed, good day gentlemen, Good day UK column listeners and viewers. Yeah.
- 28:52Speaker 4: The Chicago consul Line Global Affairs, the former Chicago CFIR,
- 28:56Speaker 4: created in nineteen twenty two, does an annual Last Crown
- 29:00Speaker 4: Center on US Foreign Policy Survey. This survey was done
- 29:04Speaker 4: in coordination not only with the Chicago Council, of course,
- 29:07Speaker 4: but Ipso's, a multinational marketing firm based in Paris, France.
- 29:11Speaker 4: Americans grow more divided on US support for Israel, and
- 29:16Speaker 4: we can go through this in a relatively brief way,
- 29:19Speaker 4: I'll give some preliminary information the Lester Crown Center and
- 29:23Speaker 4: US Foreign policy they were established. That center was established
- 29:28Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen with a transformative ten million dollar gift
- 29:31Speaker 4: from the Crown Family, a Jewish family very prominent connected
- 29:35Speaker 4: to General Dynamics, a major defense contractor. And the Leicester
- 29:39Speaker 4: Crown Center on US Foreign Policy is driven by the
- 29:41Speaker 4: belief that the public plays a critical role in determining
- 29:45Speaker 4: US foreign policies direction and that an informed and engaged public,
- 29:49Speaker 4: they say, is critical for effective policy making. And the
- 29:53Speaker 4: centerpiece of the Lester Crown Center is its annual survey
- 29:57Speaker 4: of American public opinion. And this won this year is
- 30:00Speaker 4: on American views the American public's views towards the support
- 30:04Speaker 4: of Israel. Some preliminary information besides imposing a total humanitarian
- 30:10Speaker 4: blockade on Gaza to catastrophic effect, this is the summary
- 30:13Speaker 4: in the Council's survey of American opinion, Israel launched a
- 30:18Speaker 4: massive aerial assault that killed more than four hundred Palestinians
- 30:22Speaker 4: and injured at least five hundred more. And again keep
- 30:26Speaker 4: in mind that the Chicago Council is backed by the
- 30:29Speaker 4: Leicster Crown Center the Leicster Crown family, and that's a
- 30:33Speaker 4: Jewish family, And the Chicago Council also gets a lot
- 30:36Speaker 4: of support from the Pritzker family, a major owner of
- 30:39Speaker 4: Hyatt Hotels, and JB. Pritzker is the current governor of Illinois,
- 30:44Speaker 4: where the Chicago Council is obviously based. And the Council's
- 30:49Speaker 4: summary that goes along with his survey goes on to
- 30:51Speaker 4: say that the Israeli government approved a broader military offensive,
- 30:55Speaker 4: and that summary adds the most political leaders on Capitol
- 30:59Speaker 4: Hill have remained steadfast in their support for the US
- 31:03Speaker 4: Israeli relationship, but the American public has become much more
- 31:07Speaker 4: divided in its views. And we'll get into now some
- 31:11Speaker 4: of the details on this. The survey was fielded between
- 31:16Speaker 4: April eighteen and twenty and May the second and May
- 31:20Speaker 4: the fourth, a couple different time gaps there where they
- 31:24Speaker 4: did the survey, and they're finding they're finding a widening
- 31:28Speaker 4: gap between Democrats and Republicans on the US approach to
- 31:32Speaker 4: the so called conflict between Israel and Palestine. Americans give
- 31:38Speaker 4: Israel a lukewarm rating of fifty on a zero to
- 31:42Speaker 4: one hundred scale, where one hundred represents the most favorable rating.
- 31:47Speaker 4: This is the lowest rating Israel has ever received in
- 31:51Speaker 4: Chicago Council polling, dating all the way back to nineteen
- 31:54Speaker 4: seventy eight. Moreover, more Americans now say Israel is playedaying
- 32:00Speaker 4: a negative role in resolving the key challenges facing the
- 32:04Speaker 4: Middle East. Sixty one percent of American surveyed are saying
- 32:08Speaker 4: that now, compared to fifty four percent just one year ago,
- 32:12Speaker 4: So that's a bit of an uptick there. Of some
- 32:15Speaker 4: more basic stats, and we'll be looking at some graphs
- 32:19Speaker 4: in a moment. Americans are closely divided between those who
- 32:22Speaker 4: say current Israeli actions are justified twenty seven percent and
- 32:27Speaker 4: those who say they are not twenty nine percent. But
- 32:30Speaker 4: a plurality of Americans say they are not informed enough
- 32:34Speaker 4: to offer an opinion. That's the other forty two percent,
- 32:37Speaker 4: And I would say a lot of that is from
- 32:39Speaker 4: media missteps. The media just doesn't inform people correctly on
- 32:42Speaker 4: this overall issue. Moreover, Furthermore, slightly fewer now fifty five
- 32:48Speaker 4: percent compared to last year when it was sixty percent,
- 32:52Speaker 4: say the United States should support Israel militarily until the
- 32:57Speaker 4: remaining hostage is taken by Hamas are returned nearly half
- 33:01Speaker 4: of those surveys support continuing US military aid to Israel
- 33:06Speaker 4: until Hamas is dismantled or destroyed forty seven percent, similar
- 33:11Speaker 4: to forty nine percent that said that a year ago.
- 33:15Speaker 4: And I would note that totally dismantling or destroying Hamas
- 33:19Speaker 4: is probably impossible because it's just a kind of a networked,
- 33:25Speaker 4: disorganized thing. It's not a mechanized army. So to just
- 33:29Speaker 4: simply say you're going to weed out Hamas altogether is
- 33:31Speaker 4: probably the next next best thing to impossible. Anyway, we
- 33:36Speaker 4: have some very interesting slides to look at, and this
- 33:40Speaker 4: is feelings toward Israel, where the red line is Republican
- 33:44Speaker 4: way up there, the dark blue line at the bottom
- 33:48Speaker 4: is Democrat, the black line is overall, and the yellow
- 33:52Speaker 4: line is Independent. You'll see that the Republican red line
- 33:55Speaker 4: on feelings toward Israel is way up there, and then Democrats,
- 34:00Speaker 4: independence and overall is well below that. And this drives
- 34:05Speaker 4: home the basic finding here, guys that the Republican Party
- 34:09Speaker 4: is the real lynchpin to the ongoing military and general
- 34:12Speaker 4: foreign aid for Israel across the board, which is why
- 34:17Speaker 4: APEX focuses so much of its lobbying on Republican representatives,
- 34:21Speaker 4: and why so much a probrium reigns down on people
- 34:24Speaker 4: that fight back like Thomas Massey of Kentucky, who don't
- 34:27Speaker 4: want to go along with the flow. Here you see,
- 34:33Speaker 4: and when people were asked, excuse me for just a moment,
- 34:37Speaker 4: when people were asked, in your opinion, are the following
- 34:40Speaker 4: countries playing a very positive, somewhat positive, somewhat negative, or
- 34:43Speaker 4: negative role in resolving the key problems facing the Middle East.
- 34:48Speaker 4: You'll see that the red line is flatline from nineteen
- 34:52Speaker 4: eighty all the way till now on Republican steadfast support
- 34:57Speaker 4: for Israel again, while independence, Democrats and overall continues to
- 35:02Speaker 4: decline somewhat gradually, but a very detectable and consistent decline
- 35:07Speaker 4: in support there. It's taking a long time. Yes, there
- 35:10Speaker 4: was a flaw however in the survey where it mentioned
- 35:14Speaker 4: like I noted the following countries, but it didn't name
- 35:17Speaker 4: what those following countries were. So that's one wrinkle I
- 35:20Speaker 4: found in the Chicago Council survey. This next one we
- 35:24Speaker 4: see justification of breaking the Gaza cease fire. The top
- 35:29Speaker 4: one Israel has gone too far and its military actions
- 35:34Speaker 4: aren't justified. The Republican response to that is very low.
- 35:39Speaker 4: The rest of them are quite high. That's why there's
- 35:41Speaker 4: a short red line in the middle one. Israel is
- 35:44Speaker 4: defending its interests and its military actions are justified. Therefore,
- 35:49Speaker 4: you see in the middle one the Republican red line
- 35:52Speaker 4: is way to the right, extending well beyond the Democrats,
- 35:55Speaker 4: the Independence, and the overall response I don't have enough
- 35:59Speaker 4: information have an opinion. Then things tend to even out
- 36:02Speaker 4: a bit, which again is interesting and I think is
- 36:05Speaker 4: largely due to the mass media cartel, the legacy media.
- 36:09Speaker 4: Now we'll move on to the next one and go
- 36:11Speaker 4: through these fairly breezely US military support for Israel. Do
- 36:16Speaker 4: favor or oppose the United States doing that? In support,
- 36:22Speaker 4: the top two are supporting Israel militarily until the hostages
- 36:26Speaker 4: are returned. Again, you see Republicans almost off the page
- 36:30Speaker 4: in favor of that. That was a year ago, and
- 36:35Speaker 4: the bottom one of the top two, the Republican support
- 36:39Speaker 4: is almost exactly the same. In fact, it is the same,
- 36:42Speaker 4: whereas the overall the Democrat and the Independence have shrunk
- 36:46Speaker 4: somewhat from a year before. Now the bottom two in
- 36:49Speaker 4: this graph have to do with supporting Israel militarily until
- 36:52Speaker 4: Hamas is dismantled or destroyed again, same old song and dance.
- 36:58Speaker 4: The Republicans are way up there, almost of the chart.
- 37:01Speaker 4: A year ago, the other ones were a little less
- 37:05Speaker 4: than half, and now this year the overall the Democrats
- 37:09Speaker 4: and the independence have shrunk even more compared to a
- 37:12Speaker 4: year ago. And of course viewers that watched this show
- 37:18Speaker 4: once it's archived can freeze these frames and look at
- 37:20Speaker 4: these and there'll be a link to the overall Chicago
- 37:24Speaker 4: survey in the show notes. And moving on diplomatic and
- 37:28Speaker 4: humanitarian support for the Palestinians. The top two of the
- 37:34Speaker 4: top two, the top one is twenty twenty four, where
- 37:37Speaker 4: the Republican response to that was quite low, supporting the
- 37:40Speaker 4: Palestinians the reconstruction of Gaza, whereas overall and Democrats and
- 37:45Speaker 4: Independents were markedly high, especially the Democrats. That's why there's
- 37:49Speaker 4: the long blue line there. And the bottom one of
- 37:52Speaker 4: the top two is this year twenty twenty five. The
- 37:58Speaker 4: support for Palestinians is about the same roughly for the
- 38:07Speaker 4: everyone but the Republicans, although in twenty twenty five, the
- 38:12Speaker 4: diplomatic and humanitarians support for Palestinians has went up somewhat
- 38:17Speaker 4: for the Republicans, and then in the bottom two officially
- 38:20Speaker 4: recognized a Palestinian state. The bottom two and that same
- 38:23Speaker 4: one the Republican Republicans were thirty three thirty three percent
- 38:33Speaker 4: against that in twenty twenty four, and they're even more
- 38:37Speaker 4: opposed to it now, whereas again the support among anyone
- 38:43Speaker 4: other than Republicans has remained quite strong for officially recognizing Palestine. Again,
- 38:49Speaker 4: that has shrunk among Republicans from last year, but it
- 38:52Speaker 4: has stayed the same or grown for all the other
- 38:55Speaker 4: parties that were questioned, and there's a couple more. I
- 39:00Speaker 4: won't take a lot of time with this. The US
- 39:02Speaker 4: side in the Middle East, in the Middle East conflict,
- 39:05Speaker 4: do you think the US should take Israel side, take
- 39:07Speaker 4: the Palestinian side, or take neither side. You've got the
- 39:16Speaker 4: not not taking either side is apparently the top one
- 39:22Speaker 4: of those surveyed taking the Palestinian side is I believe
- 39:29Speaker 4: the bottom one, and then the one in the middle
- 39:33Speaker 4: is not taking either side. So some of the color
- 39:40Speaker 4: coding is a little confusing on that. At any rate,
- 39:44Speaker 4: the that that's basically the the the sum and substance
- 39:50Speaker 4: of it, guys. It's a fairly complex survey, but overall,
- 39:55Speaker 4: what's what it boils down to is the Republican Party
- 39:58Speaker 4: is the mainstay and keep this support going. And it
- 40:01Speaker 4: shows the consequences, in my opinion, of not allowing more
- 40:06Speaker 4: independence to get on ballots to be elected to public office.
- 40:10Speaker 4: And that's a major reason why the two dominant parties
- 40:13Speaker 4: have went to such lengths to control ballot access and
- 40:17Speaker 4: to keep people with more independent opinions out of public office,
- 40:21Speaker 4: and to keep the Republicans in command of the so
- 40:24Speaker 4: called conservative culture. And that has had some good, you know,
- 40:28Speaker 4: good good consequences on domestic issues, but when it comes
- 40:32Speaker 4: to this, it's been the real cement keeping everything together,
- 40:38Speaker 4: keep keeping everything in place, for supporting the state of
- 40:41Speaker 4: Israel at all costs. So back to you guys on this.
- 40:46Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that report. Fascinating to see
- 40:49Speaker 1: these statistics, and this is really something to help people
- 40:54Speaker 1: think about public opinion, real public opinion about events taking
- 40:58Speaker 1: place in the world. To correct you on the last slide,
- 41:02Speaker 1: if we can pop that one up on screen. So
- 41:05Speaker 1: the top line from two thousand and two to twenty
- 41:08Speaker 1: twenty five, which is light blue, that is support for
- 41:12Speaker 1: taking the Palestinian side up at fifty eight. The darker
- 41:17Speaker 1: blue line below it, which is taking Israel side, is
- 41:22Speaker 1: pegged at twenty eight, So fifty eight for Palestine, twenty
- 41:26Speaker 1: eight for Israel, and then the light green which is
- 41:30Speaker 1: the bottom which is not taking either side, which is
- 41:33Speaker 1: of you many people you would have thought would take
- 41:35Speaker 1: that is twelve. So I just needed to correct you
- 41:38Speaker 1: on that. But thank you very much for that excellent
- 41:43Speaker 1: analysis of how public opinion is changing there in the States.
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- 45:20Speaker 1: Where do we go from that, Well, I just want
- 45:22Speaker 1: to focus attention back on kir Starmer for a few moments.
- 45:27Speaker 1: Over the last couple of my UK column news, I've
- 45:31Speaker 1: been talking about this man obviously trying to drag us
- 45:34Speaker 1: back into the EU, but also military unification with the EU.
- 45:40Speaker 1: We raised some questions about why these are Ukrainian individuals
- 45:45Speaker 1: and new him and were targeting. So they're Ukrainians, surely
- 45:49Speaker 1: we are friends with the Ukraine. One appears to be
- 45:52Speaker 1: labeled as a rent boy. Not quite sure what that means.
- 45:55Speaker 1: But we also said on the side, we've got the
- 45:59Speaker 1: UK military simply executing people by means of drone strikes
- 46:04Speaker 1: in Aleppo. But this was the key point that I
- 46:07Speaker 1: raised that we had to go to the Jerusalem Post
- 46:11Speaker 1: and Middle East media in order to find out what
- 46:14Speaker 1: the UK was really up to. This was the Jerusalem
- 46:18Speaker 1: Post talking about a meeting of a political advisor, Charles Smith,
- 46:24Speaker 1: with the Syrian Defense Ministry. It was also reported here
- 46:28Speaker 1: at the media line Trusted Mid East News, but it
- 46:33Speaker 1: wasn't reported in UK media. So we started to ask
- 46:36Speaker 1: questions about what was going on. And we were particularly
- 46:39Speaker 1: interested in what the UK public wasn't being told. And
- 46:43Speaker 1: of course this is clearly that now we've got the
- 46:46Speaker 1: British military engaged to help what has been a terrorist
- 46:51Speaker 1: organization to build up its military capability. This was the
- 46:56Speaker 1: man who was simply described as a political advisor. We
- 47:00Speaker 1: can now reveal that this man is actually an army officer.
- 47:04Speaker 1: He's been an instructor at the Land Warfare School at
- 47:06Speaker 1: the British Army. If you've got a LinkedIn you can
- 47:09Speaker 1: actually have a look at more of his career and
- 47:12Speaker 1: then when we know who he is, surprisingly or maybe
- 47:16Speaker 1: not surprisingly, we can find that he's been taking part
- 47:20Speaker 1: in other meetings in the Middle East. This is in Lebanon,
- 47:23Speaker 1: but clearly the UK media does not want to talk
- 47:28Speaker 1: about these behind the scenes but very high level meetings
- 47:32Speaker 1: to restructure policy in Lebanon and Syria itself.
- 47:37Speaker 2: Just leave that image up on screen from Brian, A
- 47:40Speaker 2: nice little bit of our well in newspeak, to support
- 47:43Speaker 2: Lebanon's stability. That means instability.
- 47:46Speaker 1: Yes, I absolutely agree with that. If you don't know
- 47:49Speaker 1: what they're doing, try using the statement that it will
- 47:53Speaker 1: be the opposite of what they say. So basically UK
- 47:59Speaker 1: public is in the dark about what's going on. This
- 48:03Speaker 1: is actually the report from Lebanon itself at the time,
- 48:09Speaker 1: so we've got more information about what was going on
- 48:11Speaker 1: here meeting with senior Lebanese and UN officials. But no,
- 48:16Speaker 1: we don't want the UK public to know about this.
- 48:20Speaker 1: People can have a look at this after the news
- 48:22Speaker 1: and we'll put this up on the notes to UK
- 48:26Speaker 1: column News today. But here we are Defense Attache, Lieutenant
- 48:32Speaker 1: Colonel Charles Smith. So that's what's been happening in the
- 48:36Speaker 1: Middle East. But closer to home, we've got changes in
- 48:40Speaker 1: the structure, the high level structure of the British military,
- 48:43Speaker 1: and we've got Sir Gwynn Jenkins now in posters First Sea. Lord.
- 48:49Speaker 1: Forgive me for this, but I couldn't resist the resemblance.
- 48:52Speaker 1: I'd like to know whether we've got the UK military
- 48:55Speaker 1: being run by an officer and gentlemen or Rambo. It
- 49:00Speaker 1: would have been nice if he could have got into
- 49:02Speaker 1: some decent uniform in order to present himself to the public,
- 49:05Speaker 1: but I think Rambo wins. And then of course in
- 49:08Speaker 1: the background we've got our illustrious King can barely stand
- 49:14Speaker 1: up due to the weight of the medals, but presumably
- 49:18Speaker 1: he's helping to leave these interesting people into post and
- 49:23Speaker 1: I just want to end with this segment, which I
- 49:26Speaker 1: just find astonishing. Of course, recently we had Sir ben
- 49:30Speaker 1: Key stepping down apparently as the boss of the Armed Forces,
- 49:36Speaker 1: and in the telegraph report he's quoted as saying, I
- 49:40Speaker 1: am unhappy with the state of the Navy. But of
- 49:42Speaker 1: course the sun went for the juggular and said Navy shock,
- 49:47Speaker 1: head of raw Navy suspended over quote secret affair with
- 49:52Speaker 1: subordinate as married dad of three faces misconduct pro Now,
- 49:57Speaker 1: notice that the junior officer, who I believe is female,
- 50:01Speaker 1: but I don't know that for certain, she's not named,
- 50:04Speaker 1: even though as an officer she was also breaking the
- 50:07Speaker 1: rules and silence on that. But there was the man
- 50:12Speaker 1: breaking his own rules in having a relationship with a
- 50:16Speaker 1: junior female officer. Let's have a look at this video
- 50:21Speaker 1: clip where a young lady was in great distress due
- 50:25Speaker 1: to some really unpleasant sexual bullying on board a submarine.
- 50:31Speaker 3: I mean, this report from skysider Chowdhury contains explicit descriptions
- 50:36Speaker 3: of sexual harassment.
- 50:38Speaker 13: I sort of woke up to as like a bit
- 50:39Speaker 13: of a fumble that was going on as an officer
- 50:44Speaker 13: seeing it to myself, was trying to get into my
- 50:46Speaker 13: bed and kissing me.
- 50:49Speaker 14: Two years after this interview with Sky News, the Ministry
- 50:52Speaker 14: of Defense is making changes. Sophie Brooke, a former sub mariner,
- 50:58Speaker 14: told us sexual harassment and misogyny was commonplace in the
- 51:03Speaker 14: Royal Navy's submarine service.
- 51:05Speaker 13: I'd said a number of times to various people, you know,
- 51:11Speaker 13: I'd rather be dead think going on this patrol today.
- 51:14Speaker 14: The mod admitted a problem, it said a report into
- 51:17Speaker 14: Sophie's claims marks an inflection point for the Royal Navy.
- 51:22Speaker 13: Mynors reaction is I am appreciative of the full and
- 51:26Speaker 13: nonreserved apology that the First Sea Lord has given me.
- 51:29Speaker 13: It means a lot to have had that, both verbally
- 51:33Speaker 13: and in a written letter, an acknowledgment of everything that
- 51:37Speaker 13: had happened. And yeah, just I think relief that it's
- 51:42Speaker 13: finally come to an end.
- 51:44Speaker 14: That's the investigation, but Sophie says the impact of her
- 51:48Speaker 14: experience inside the Navy's submarines doesn't go away.
- 51:53Speaker 13: I was punched in the kidney as while I was
- 51:55Speaker 13: on the periscope. I had someone licked my ear while
- 52:01Speaker 13: I was again on the periscope and then I had
- 52:05Speaker 13: the same person also put their penis in my pocket
- 52:10Speaker 13: whilst I was doing my job.
- 52:13Speaker 14: Today, the head of the Royal Navy issued an apology.
- 52:17Speaker 14: He said, the investigation has confirmed misogyny, bullying and other
- 52:22Speaker 14: unacceptable behaviors did occur during the investigation period and this
- 52:27Speaker 14: is intolerable.
- 52:30Speaker 1: So for our audience, the incredible situation inside the British
- 52:34Speaker 1: military that the man who made the apology to that
- 52:38Speaker 1: young lady as well he shirt for the obscene abuse
- 52:41Speaker 1: she suffered, is the man who is also breaking the
- 52:44Speaker 1: rules himself. This is complete breakdown at the military structure.
- 52:49Speaker 1: This is not accidental, this is orchestrated and the UK
- 52:53Speaker 1: column will dig into this more in the future. Patrick,
- 52:57Speaker 1: I'll watch your expression as that apology came up on screen.
- 53:01Speaker 2: Truly unbelievable and incredible. I mean, this is the type
- 53:04Speaker 2: of thing you try to avoid, right in politics and institutions,
- 53:07Speaker 2: not to have the situations where the head of the
- 53:10Speaker 2: organization has to be exposed to that degree. Do they
- 53:14Speaker 2: normally resign, don't they? They do the honorable thing and
- 53:16Speaker 2: quietly take their retirement. Right.
- 53:18Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do more we'll say more in extra time
- 53:22Speaker 1: on this, but Mark, let's bring you back on. Because
- 53:25Speaker 1: people can't understand how politics on a global scale works.
- 53:30Speaker 1: We've got to understand what this rules based international order
- 53:34Speaker 1: is and what the component parts of that order is.
- 53:37Speaker 1: And of course the Trilateral Commission is a very powerful
- 53:40Speaker 1: part of this.
- 53:44Speaker 2: Oh.
- 53:44Speaker 4: Absolutely. The Trilateral Commission is often seen as sort of
- 53:48Speaker 4: the first cousin, you might say, of the Builderberg group.
- 53:52Speaker 4: And I've typically reported in past years, especially over the
- 53:57Speaker 4: past decade or so, in the spring on the Trilateral
- 54:01Speaker 4: Commission because what they talk about and who shows up
- 54:05Speaker 4: sometimes we'll give you an inkling of what Builderberg's going
- 54:07Speaker 4: to talk about and what's on Bilderberg's mind. At any rate,
- 54:12Speaker 4: as was the case in twenty fourteen, the Trilateral Commission
- 54:15Speaker 4: held a major meeting in Washington, d c. On the
- 54:18Speaker 4: shores of the Potomac. It was called an Era of Revelation.
- 54:21Speaker 4: Excuse me, an Era of revolutions. Maybe revelations would be better,
- 54:25Speaker 4: right At first it looked like it said an end
- 54:28Speaker 4: of revolutions, but it's actually an era of revolutions. Kind
- 54:32Speaker 4: of a weird script there, and it shows the flowers
- 54:35Speaker 4: that come out in DC in the springtime, a very
- 54:37Speaker 4: pretty place to be this time of year. At any rate.
- 54:40Speaker 4: A number of things were covered, and this is a
- 54:45Speaker 4: statement that was put out on the last day. This
- 54:48Speaker 4: meeting was recent. It was April four through six in DC,
- 54:52Speaker 4: so it didn't just happen. But these things, of course
- 54:55Speaker 4: have long range implications. There was this statement put out
- 54:59Speaker 4: that says the Trial Federal Commission has for more than
- 55:01Speaker 4: half a century, created in nineteen seventy three, champion a
- 55:05Speaker 4: commitment to the rule of law, what they call the
- 55:07Speaker 4: rule of law, open economies and societies, which has a
- 55:11Speaker 4: double meeting and democratic principles. As we meet in d
- 55:14Speaker 4: C amid deep domestic and foreign divisions. The Trilateral Commission's
- 55:19Speaker 4: mission remains vital today. We reaffirm these values. Founded in
- 55:23Speaker 4: seventy three by David Rockefeller, the major banker, also Builderberg.
- 55:28Speaker 4: The Trilateral Commission brings together senior policymakers, business leaders, and
- 55:32Speaker 4: top thinkers just like Bildeberg, from across North America Europe,
- 55:35Speaker 4: and they have an Asian component in the Trilateral Commission
- 55:39Speaker 4: that tends not to be there for Bildeberg. The members
- 55:42Speaker 4: discuss issues that are common to democracies in those three regions,
- 55:47Speaker 4: and we'll move on. There's a little more detail that
- 55:50Speaker 4: they shared through their publications. The Trilateral Commission is notably
- 55:56Speaker 4: more open about their meetings than Buildeberg, both beforehand and afterwards.
- 56:00Speaker 4: I'll mention that too. At our global meeting, the one
- 56:03Speaker 4: that happened in early April, we bring together a wide
- 56:06Speaker 4: range of stakeholders, including members of the Trump administration who
- 56:09Speaker 4: were there. But I can only track down two, by
- 56:12Speaker 4: the way, and there were thinkers on the right and
- 56:14Speaker 4: the left, former policymakers, and they want to foster international cooperation.
- 56:19Speaker 4: The founding statement of the Trilateral Commission, just to give
- 56:22Speaker 4: a little more foundation to those who aren't familiar with it,
- 56:25Speaker 4: says Japan, Western Europe and North America, in view of
- 56:28Speaker 4: their great weight in the world economy, bear a special
- 56:31Speaker 4: responsibility for developing effective international cooperation for themselves and the
- 56:36Speaker 4: rest of the world. And the major goal of the
- 56:39Speaker 4: Trilateral Commission, no matter what the details are, is the
- 56:42Speaker 4: renewal and maintenance of the rules based international system that's
- 56:47Speaker 4: to be shouldered by all Trilateral members. So, also in
- 56:53Speaker 4: early April, Joseph Nye, the noted soft power theorist and
- 56:59Speaker 4: Harvard professors. In fact, he's a developer of soft power.
- 57:03Speaker 4: He took part in the early April meeting, but about
- 57:06Speaker 4: a month later, on the sixth of May, he passed away.
- 57:09Speaker 4: And there's a letter here that viewers can look at
- 57:12Speaker 4: in more detail, but it was written by Megan O'Sullivan,
- 57:16Speaker 4: the chairman of the North American part of the Trilateral Commission,
- 57:20Speaker 4: and they just basically say that now we say goodbye
- 57:23Speaker 4: to him. Joseph Nye spelled. Nye had been an integral
- 57:29Speaker 4: part of the Trilateral Commission since its earliest days when
- 57:32Speaker 4: it was formed by ze Big New Brazinski and David Rockfeller.
- 57:36Speaker 4: Mister Nye was a founding member of the Trilateral Commission
- 57:39Speaker 4: and a chair of the North American group for a
- 57:41Speaker 4: decade following the departure at that time of House Speaker
- 57:46Speaker 4: Tom Foley, So a Speaker of the House of Representatives
- 57:49Speaker 4: was actually a major leader in the Trilateral Commission at
- 57:53Speaker 4: one time, which is a pretty grave conflict of interest.
- 57:56Speaker 4: Here's some of the key US and UK attendees the
- 58:00Speaker 4: to Trump administration. People that the Trilateral people referred to
- 58:04Speaker 4: were Scott Bissent, US Secretary of the Treasury and Sohan
- 58:11Speaker 4: boys Gupta, an Indian guy, Assistant Secretary for Trade and
- 58:16Speaker 4: Economic Security, US Department of Homeland Security. And one of
- 58:20Speaker 4: the major UK attendees is Antony bibore B E V
- 58:24Speaker 4: O R, a visiting professor University of Kent. He was
- 58:29Speaker 4: among a few different UK personalities who were there at
- 58:33Speaker 4: any rate. We see in this next slide we see
- 58:36Speaker 4: Scott Bissent, the Treasury Secretary, meeting with CFR board Chairman
- 58:42Speaker 4: David Rubinstein. He's the Consul on Foreign Relations board chairman.
- 58:47Speaker 4: He's also with the Carlisle Group, and they simply said
- 58:51Speaker 4: that mister Bessant's topic was a special conversation with that
- 58:56Speaker 4: CFR board chair chairman, mister Rubinstein. So those are some
- 59:00Speaker 4: of the highlights. They covered a whole bunch of things
- 59:04Speaker 4: regarding AI, regarding tariffs, regarding international relations. There was very little,
- 59:09Speaker 4: if anything about the Israeli matter with regards to Gaza
- 59:13Speaker 4: or any of that. But there'll be much more guys
- 59:17Speaker 4: on this. We do have a couple short video clips.
- 59:20Speaker 4: If I had to pick one, I'd go with the
- 59:22Speaker 4: second one. But why don't we show one of those?
- 59:25Speaker 4: This is Edward Luce showing him there. He's with the
- 59:29Speaker 4: Financial Times. He wrote a book on the Trilateral Commission
- 59:33Speaker 4: co founders of Big New Brazinski. The book is simply
- 59:36Speaker 4: called Zabig. Brazinski, of course, was a major US strategist.
- 59:40Speaker 4: He died in twenty seventeen, as did David Rockefeller that
- 59:43Speaker 4: same year. Here's a little bit of what mister Leuce
- 59:47Speaker 4: had to say talking with Ian Brazinski is a Big
- 59:50Speaker 4: Brazinski's son, and this gives you a little more flavor
- 59:54Speaker 4: of Trilateral Commission related matters.
- 59:57Speaker 15: As of late, Obama was able to call on, you know,
- 1:00:03Speaker 15: the Democrat, the most hawkish Democrat at least in memory,
- 1:00:08Speaker 15: who would be known as darf Fader by the left
- 1:00:11Speaker 15: in the nineteen seventies. He was the Darth Vader. For
- 1:00:15Speaker 15: Obama to be able to get your dad's endorsement was
- 1:00:18Speaker 15: and I had talked a lot to the Obama people.
- 1:00:21Speaker 15: It was a punch the air moment for them because
- 1:00:24Speaker 15: this neutralized Hillary Clinton's attack and it's.
- 1:00:28Speaker 5: Big offered to introduce Obama and it was a whole
- 1:00:31Speaker 5: big deal. And to remind, going back to Jimmy Carter,
- 1:00:35Speaker 5: Carter credited him really with teaching him foreign policy. Carter
- 1:00:40Speaker 5: read huge amounts of material and you describe how the
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: Trilateral Commission was formed, and Carter was the first governor
- 1:00:48Speaker 5: democratic governor to be asked to be a member and
- 1:00:51Speaker 5: so forth, and so he really, I mean, he had
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: an extraordinary impact.
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: To summarize very briefly, guys, I know, time is tight.
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: Jane Harmon, the host herself, is a member of the
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: Trilateral Commission, a former California congresswoman, and so she has
- 1:01:10Speaker 4: a special interest in this. But they did a very
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: in depth interview with mister Luce on his book, and
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: it exposed a lot of the Trilateral Commissions machinations through
- 1:01:21Speaker 4: is of being in Brazinski, and one of them was
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: schooling Jimmy Carter to make him into a better globalist
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: than he might have been otherwise. So there'll be more
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: on this as Bilderberg approaches in Stockholm, and some of
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: this will be brought into it from the Trilateral meeting,
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: but we'll leave it there for now.
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: Werk, Thank you very much for that. And as I
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: said earlier, on some really fascinating statistics there of how
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: opinion at least in America at least is beginning to
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: change and Hopefully as people get access to more direct media,
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: less of the political boy, they are going to be
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: out of frame much more sensible opinions as to what's
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: going on in the world. Now we're a little bit
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: over for time, but I have to say that UK
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: column does pay attention when people pick us up and
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: say that what we've reported hasn't been accurate. But to
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: bring a little bit of black humor into this end
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: of today's news, the subject was but it's black, Sorry,
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: it's back to black love song with Zelenski, and I
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: just pointed out that the Italian Prime Minister switched to
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: black when she met Zelensky in black and they made
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: a lovely couple, Zelenski looking very happy at his conquest.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: So we put this back. It's become controversy apparently, and
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: I was challenged and we had a very interesting exchange
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: about this because we mentioned Amy Weinhaus, which is back
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: to black, but our viewer said, surely you're thinking of ACD,
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: which is back in black. So we just want to
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: end saying we do pay attention to what you say,
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: but sometimes we do get it right, and it's great
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: to see that at least the subject of music has
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: brought something a little bit lighter to the four.
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: Which do you prefer Brian Amy wine House or ac DC.
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: Well, I've got to say that while Backer started to
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: look at a little bit of information about Eating Winehouse
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: and her career and her background, and I do like
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: some of her music, I think I prefer more than
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: ac DC. But I'm the age I am, so maybe
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: that's unfair criticism. We must end there huge thank you
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: to everybody who's joined us today for today's news. We
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: will have a UK Column Extra in a few minutes,
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: and of course if you're a member of UK Column
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- 1:03:56Speaker 1: We also have a guest with us and that is
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: Mark from Not on the Bebe. So he is another
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: journalist and Mark has been doing some really good work.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: He's produced a book where he's challenging AI will be
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: talking about that, but he's also going to be telling
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