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Things Change (S7 E3 “Lorelai’s First Cotillion”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 3: You know what, guys, I didn't hate it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hate it either.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there are parts I had notes on, but it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't overall terrible.
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  Speaker 1: There was some suckiness, there wasn't a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Emily is back in that saved this episode.
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  Speaker 3: And Richard and Richard back got me in the.
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  Speaker 2: Group Friday Night Dinner finally back when I saw.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, but you need a good bad guy in this thing,
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  Speaker 1: and Emily's the bad guy in this thing, and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's like the antagonist of the shell basically.
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  Speaker 2: And even a bad guy like your entertainment.
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  Speaker 1: That's what makes it so great. It's like that negative
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  Speaker 1: energy versus the positive energy and its sparks fly. It's
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  Speaker 1: just fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: He's a little something.
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  Speaker 1: She's so good.
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 4: Like the second I saw the Gilmour home the driveway,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we're back.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of an awkward scene at the top.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think it landed. The jokes, the jokes were there,
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  Speaker 1: the writing was there, it was all kind of there,
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  Speaker 1: but it was off. It wasn't landing.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, it felt it felt long.
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  Speaker 4: I think that like before before the little girl opened
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  Speaker 4: the door, we could have cut like a minute and
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  Speaker 4: a half from that banter.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny you say that, you guys, because that was
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  Speaker 3: I thought we were I thought the episode was going
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  Speaker 3: to suck from that before the credits roll scene, because
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  Speaker 3: it was like weird banter or Bengal or Bengal or
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  Speaker 3: like it was just trying too hard and they were
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  Speaker 3: trying to sqush, like let's be really really funny right
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  Speaker 3: from the start and people will like us. It's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like how I felt, and I was like yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, But once I got inside it started a
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  Speaker 1: rock and roll.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have that many flags after that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, there's some flags. There are flags. You're going
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  Speaker 1: to step around them. There's some flags.
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  Speaker 3: So are people going to be tragically disappointed that Suzanne
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  Speaker 3: is not here to do this synopsis?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Whoa, I just got a text from her.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to hurry up and do the synopsis so
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  Speaker 2: that she doesn't take it away from me.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to get me to stop you from doing it?
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  Speaker 1: What No, she says, don't let dan Scott. I'm in
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  Speaker 1: New York. Don't let Danielle do the thing I like being.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, guys, this is season seven, episode three, the first Katilion.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna finish it. It's air date October tenth,
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and six. Lorelai expects the worst from her
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  Speaker 2: parents when she finally tells them that she and Luke
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  Speaker 2: have split up. Michelle convinces Laura to attend Ktilion after
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  Speaker 2: Emily host an afternoon tea, and Paris convinces Rory to
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  Speaker 2: send scandalous texts to Logan. Meanwhile, Lane finally tells Zach
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  Speaker 2: she is pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty great, that's a mic drop. Ooh, I'm gonna text Uzanne.
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  Speaker 1: Uh you should worry.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, your queendom may be going away.
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  Speaker 1: The throne Maybe usurped Like I said.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't hate it, and I really don't as a whole.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, I don't hate.
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  Speaker 1: It all right, let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I also thought Lauren Graham looked so good in this
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  Speaker 3: entire episode. You know this is that she ever looked
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  Speaker 3: bad though, I mean no, but she was particularly cute.
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  Speaker 2: This may be the dumbest and very very late revelation
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  Speaker 2: that I don't know how seven seasons later, I'm just
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  Speaker 2: finally like seeing you all have the most piercing blue eyes,
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  Speaker 2: the three of you, Luke, Loreli and Rory. I literally true.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why this episode. I was just like
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  Speaker 2: everyone's eyes.
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  Speaker 3: It was just weird.
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  Speaker 2: It was so weird.
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  Speaker 1: Well that, yeah, but I was was even this.
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  Speaker 3: I was in one in the diner, a good scene
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  Speaker 3: actually with Rory, very good scene. I have a comment
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  Speaker 3: about that scene. And there's a moment in this episode
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  Speaker 3: that causes a lot of controversy that I will talk
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  Speaker 3: about when we get.
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  Speaker 2: There amongst the people, maybe amongst us as well.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe so she would just start going through it. We
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  Speaker 3: already kind of talked about. The open scene didn't totally work. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it was too long, it was too dense, it was
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  Speaker 3: not get on.
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  Speaker 1: The horse and let's get the thing moving.
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  Speaker 4: But when then when they give the drink quarters to
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  Speaker 4: the little girl, Oh my.
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  Speaker 3: God, did everybody think, like, what is going on? Did
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  Speaker 3: they hire a maid that is eleven?
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  Speaker 1: But I knew it was going to pay off and
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  Speaker 1: I knew it was gonna be something like that. But
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  Speaker 1: that first jokey joke from from Lauren or from what
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  Speaker 1: she said, is that legal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she was the best in that whole scene. Plus
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  Speaker 3: with the little girl being like, oh, your mother warned
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  Speaker 3: me you you were you know, you had a smart
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  Speaker 3: mouth or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It was right, But she was so sweet about it.
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  Speaker 1: She wasn't you know, she's cast perfectly. She was very keen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The only part was when Emily yielded her about
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  Speaker 3: the ice. I was like, oh Emily too.
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  Speaker 1: That was but that that guarantees that Emily is the
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  Speaker 1: antagonist of this. Yeah, you know, and Taylor a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I guess are you taking us through what? Scott? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I am pardon me? Let me.
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  Speaker 1: I retired from that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you're so good at that about.
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  Speaker 1: I retired from that?
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  Speaker 3: When did you retire?
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  Speaker 1: I retired last week? And you know, because your.
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  Speaker 3: That was just a one time thing, because of your tooth.
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  Speaker 1: This will be in perpetuity.
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  Speaker 3: The people are not going to like this.
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  Speaker 1: B s.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so we come in.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna love.
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  Speaker 3: It, They're not. They prefer I don't mind, I don't
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  Speaker 3: mind doing it.
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  Speaker 1: No, you'll discuss it.
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  Speaker 3: So we talked about the opening scene, which it seems
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  Speaker 3: like all of us are in agreement. It wasn't great,
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  Speaker 3: and I had concerns. Credits roll and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: but then we go off to the races. So this
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  Speaker 3: little girl opens the door. It turns out to be Charlotte,
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  Speaker 3: and we realized that Emily is kind of coaching up
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  Speaker 3: these little girls, specifically Emily for the Katillion Charlie, and
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  Speaker 3: we had great banter and the whole thing. So let's
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  Speaker 3: let's talk about let's talk about it. Well, all the
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  Speaker 3: way to dinner.
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  Speaker 2: Emily would she would be running the Katillion joint like
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  Speaker 2: she This is so up her alley and I love
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  Speaker 2: seeing her back in this little royal pedestal that she
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  Speaker 2: sits on.
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  Speaker 4: She always finds something to do, like she she finds
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  Speaker 4: like a new hobby and I love it in this world, like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: today I'm going to coach these fifteen girls.
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  Speaker 3: Who did Katillion here you of course, but it was
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't like you guys didn't have Katillia.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even I thought it was just in like movies.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know the thing.
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  Speaker 3: No, we had it in either seventh or eighth grade.
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  Speaker 3: But it's much more casual than this. It's where you
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  Speaker 3: learn to dance, you learn to like dance with boys.
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  Speaker 3: And they still have it now in my town. And
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  Speaker 3: the big thing is that all the kids have a
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  Speaker 3: dinner together, so not like a fancy thing like they
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  Speaker 3: did in this, although not that different. All the kids
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  Speaker 3: before they go to the katillion they go to each week.
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  Speaker 3: It's like five weeks of Katillian and they go to
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  Speaker 3: like one house and that mom has prepared dinner, order
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  Speaker 3: tacos or whatever it is, and then they go off
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  Speaker 3: and they learn to dance and they have.
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  Speaker 5: To would you say, weren't they eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven in this?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was the right age. It's about seventh grade.
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  Speaker 3: I think you do. It's seventh grade probably like well thirteen, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: twelve thirteen?
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  Speaker 4: Really when I have you guys seen the movie at
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  Speaker 4: Danielle You probably have. She's the Man with Amanda Bynes
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  Speaker 4: and then like she goes to Katilion. It always threw
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  Speaker 4: me off because I didn't know what it was. But
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  Speaker 4: they're like teenagers, they're like sixteen seventeen, so I didn't
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  Speaker 4: know it was a specific age.
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  Speaker 2: So you didn't You didn't learn like about the forks
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  Speaker 2: and the.
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  Speaker 3: No, that wasn't part of this arc. What Katillion was
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  Speaker 3: for us, it was learning to dance. So you learned
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  Speaker 3: like the box step and not the walls, but like
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  Speaker 3: some simple dances and then you yeah, and it was
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  Speaker 3: at the I think the dancing part was that you
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  Speaker 3: learned No but is that Bruce Springsteen? No? But then, uh,
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  Speaker 3: where did I have manners classes? I definitely had some
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  Speaker 3: sort of manners thing too, So this was sort of
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  Speaker 3: just combining.
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  Speaker 1: That interesting And what do you remember about the manners class?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? The bread always the bread that you never Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So here's your piece of bread, right, Yes, this is
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  Speaker 3: not toast. This is bread at a at a dignified thing.
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  Speaker 3: Never never take the butter and this never never never.
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  Speaker 3: So you take the butter off, the butter thing, you
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  Speaker 3: put it onto your plate. Then you break off your
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  Speaker 3: bite of bread.
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  Speaker 2: And you did it.
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  Speaker 3: No, you you butter each bite of bread. You don't
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  Speaker 3: butter like slather it off. It's funny you guys bring
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  Speaker 3: this up. So there's this place in San Francisco called
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  Speaker 3: Crown and Crumpet obviously the name Crumpet, and you can
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  Speaker 3: take manners classes there.
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  Speaker 2: Never so my nieces, you could.
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  Speaker 3: My nieces have the worst habit of this. You know,
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  Speaker 3: when you've got like something on your mouth and I'm
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  Speaker 3: like the whole backhand like sweatshirt. It's like no, but
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  Speaker 3: the the buttering of the bread and the forks, the
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  Speaker 3: forks tracked. You definitely would learn about the forks.
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  Speaker 4: Did you know the internet is just learning about what
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  Speaker 4: a charger is what? Because of TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: That's like a very well known thing. It's the decorative
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  Speaker 2: plate under the plate.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even know what it was called. And like
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  Speaker 4: this TikTok went viral because the.
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  Speaker 3: Girl ate off the charger.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, So.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, uh etiquette expert Amy, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: talk tout Okay. So once you let's say you have steak,
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  Speaker 1: you cut the steak. You have to put the knife
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  Speaker 1: down first, and then you switch hands, yes, correct, and
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  Speaker 1: eat with your.
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  Speaker 2: Right hand right unless you're lefty, right, right, Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: you can't do none of the.
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  Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no, you can't hold the knife.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I thought Emily said it very well
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of people mess us up and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of restaurants, you know, like you don't put your
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  Speaker 3: jam knife down on the tablecloth. Oh no, and then
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  Speaker 3: you just got a jam Remember jam hands. It brought
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  Speaker 3: me right back to remember when Luke didn't like jam hands.
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  Speaker 3: But so that was a good, good one. I'll try
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  Speaker 3: and think of more as we go, but right now
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  Speaker 3: we're just setting it up, and I thought I was
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  Speaker 3: so happy. I was like, oh, the banter's great. The
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  Speaker 3: little girl is sort of adding a flavor we needed.
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  Speaker 3: And then we get to the dinner and the whole
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  Speaker 3: reveal of Luke and I broke up and they're sort
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  Speaker 3: of like, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: They couldn't care less, and She's like, oh, mad, I didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Think that they didn't care I just thought that Emily
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  Speaker 4: was waiting for that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she kind of probably knew it was coming from
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  Speaker 3: the house. Tears from the house.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just oh, is that the last time we saw them? Yes, Wow,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a while.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, they comes to my mind, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna swear, damn it, George swear from Back to the Future.
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  Speaker 3: You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't,
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  Speaker 3: if you're the Gilmours with Loralai, because if they caused
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  Speaker 3: a big ruckus, she'd be upset. Now they don't cause
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  Speaker 3: a big ruckus.
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  Speaker 1: She's sort of upset, right She's she's asking for a
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  Speaker 1: normalized family interaction when that is anything but yeah, she's
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  Speaker 1: asking for warmth and support when she is so contentious
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  Speaker 1: most of the time, but for good reason. Still, there's
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  Speaker 1: that imbalance at the dinner table.
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  Speaker 3: And I enjoyed the callback to Bangalore Bangalore. I just
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  Speaker 3: didn't enjoy it when with the setup, but that was
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  Speaker 3: funny and the little girl sitting there through all this,
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  Speaker 3: and the banter between the little girl and the Lorelie
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  Speaker 3: is like a ten out of ten.
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  Speaker 4: I also did like how the scene just ended after
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  Speaker 4: you said Bangalore, like it went with exactly what was
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  Speaker 4: supposed to happen. It's just like, all right, well, conversation's done.
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  Speaker 1: So I actually wanted more at the dinner table. I
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  Speaker 1: went less at the front door and more at the
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  Speaker 1: dinner time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just laughed at that part because
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh they really they could call back work, had.
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  Speaker 3: A lot more banter with the little girl, Charlotte, the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was all great.
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  Speaker 3: So then we go back to lore Lies and first
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  Speaker 3: we're getting the awkward logan calls while Rory's sleeping.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, which this is my first flag, Like he knows
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  Speaker 4: it's two am. He's acting like she's been up and
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  Speaker 4: out and about.
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  Speaker 3: It's also the math. Oh no there on the.
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  Speaker 2: East the East coast is eleven something. It said it
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  Speaker 2: on her alarm clock.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's eleven.
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  Speaker 2: I totally yeah, it's a twelve. Jackie pulled it up on.
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  Speaker 3: But that would be four am in London. Nothing's tracking.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on, there was an alarm clock with the time
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  Speaker 2: on it, because I weirdly was seeing if the alarm
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  Speaker 2: clock changed for like continuity things.
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  Speaker 4: I was, I don't know why, I just put to.
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  Speaker 3: See if the minutes rolled by.
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  Speaker 2: Ye, and two minutes rolled by.
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  Speaker 4: I wrote down two o'clock. But I also watched this
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  Speaker 4: really late last night. Maybe I just made up two am.
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  Speaker 3: But the math doesn't work though if it was eleven in.
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  Speaker 4: The I was thinking, here, I forgot they're on the
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  Speaker 4: East coast. I was thinking, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Still if it's only eleven on the East coast, it's
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  Speaker 3: only five hours later in London.
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  Speaker 4: Right, they're eight hours ahead from us, so it would
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  Speaker 4: have been ten.
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  Speaker 2: Oh here, here we go, here we go. No, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: On Rory's alarm clock, it's stand by.
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  Speaker 1: If it's eight hours from us, then it's five five.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like he's at work at two am or something.
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  Speaker 3: This doesn't make sense, or five am, but.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's more than five hours to Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Alexa, no time is it in London? So it's ten.
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  Speaker 5: It's I'm going to refer to the world eight hours
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  Speaker 5: later from.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay, so it's it's it is eight hours.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: So that's right. That's what makes sense. It makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: It's two am on the East coast, seven am in London.
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  Speaker 3: It's correct.
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  Speaker 4: But my but my point was why is he calling
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  Speaker 4: her at two am? Like he acted like, oh you're asleep.
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  Speaker 3: Oh great point, but I don't know, maybe he forgot.
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  Speaker 4: That was my call out was like the way he
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  Speaker 4: calls and he's talking to her is like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 4: don't you expect my call at two am? Like it
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  Speaker 4: just feels weird, and also seven am you probably just
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  Speaker 4: got to work.
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  Speaker 1: Like here's how maybe it can be justified. Maybe he's
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  Speaker 1: used to her always being up late studying maybe yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they have to be summer, the time has to work.
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  Speaker 3: But that is just getting to work.
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  Speaker 4: So it doesn't work because it's summer.
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  Speaker 1: So it's okay to call her at two am because
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  Speaker 1: it's summer and she doesn't have to get up and study, right.
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  Speaker 3: Because guys, think about it, it's worse if it's ten
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  Speaker 3: am in London, then it's really the middle of the night, right.
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  Speaker 1: And it shows how much he misses.
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  Speaker 2: For the record, the second phone call at the end
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  Speaker 2: of this episode, it's eleven forty seven.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, not this one.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, got it, Yeah, got it, got it. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: we'll get into the math later because there's a bigger
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  Speaker 3: math veil in this way.
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  Speaker 1: I tell you, Thank God, we don't run a golf tour,
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 3: So then Rory gets up and she talks lorealies. Got
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the pop tart situation going? Do I even like pop tarts?
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: She's eaten all the pop tarts?
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Now, I thought that was a very very insightful, uh
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: sort of section of this show. It's she's examining from
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: a psychological standpoint. She's sort of analyzing herself. I like
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: the pop tarts pop tarts, and I thought that's kind
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: of clever.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: It makes sense, like she's like if my mom would
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: have handed me a pop tart. Like it's almost like
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: we don't know if she likes pop tarts or not,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: because if Emily gave it to her she would have
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: hated it. The friends giving it to her she loves it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know what she likes pop tarts.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: But then I think, really the the uncomfortable part was
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I think the pop tart was Luke. Do I really
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: love Luke?
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Oh wow?
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Whoa?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Who am I? Right?
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Who am I?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Like she's questioning all of her choices.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: She doesn't know right who she is.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: She doesn't even know subconsciously, like maybe she just did
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: it despite Emily and took the guy with the hat.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, maybe I am not as smart as you.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: But I did think it was a very good scene.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: I was very into the way they thank you, the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: way they did that. I did get it. I was like, wow,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: she really is sort of questioning who.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: She is, and then it was an interesting moment of
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: reflection and I thought, very well done.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so far, I'm like this is going great.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And even Rory's awkward call with Logan and how she
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: explained it, like I can't remember she explained it to
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Lorelai or Lane later, but there's all the weird pauses
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: and it's so awkward, and it was like, eh, you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: they're like, how is it in? And we'll get to
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: how great I thought Paris was in this episode, but
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: not time. So next we're at Luke's diner. It's the
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: grand reopening, and first of all, I did think that
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the shot was different.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the shot was the.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Way they shot that scene that was not an angle.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I think I'd ever see different.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: It was, you know what it was amy It looked
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: like it was right directly behind the counter instead of
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: at an angle like we saw from Luke's perspective.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I almost felt like the camera was like placed in
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the diner because I could see so much.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: They were favoring Sally Struthers and this Torres. They wanted
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to get those two on camera.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: But I could see like all the people walking. They
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: was so like I could see the whole diner.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: But I do agree, like the windows did look different, like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you know, like they really did.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: That was my takeaway was the shot was so different
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: that I'm.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Like, all, all wonderful crew making it slightly different, you know.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that whole thing was good. It was a
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: it was a nice, funny sort of moment for be
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Bet and Patty to keep talking about what was going on.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Then Rory comes in hint of awkwardness but yet still good. Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: kind of pushing through the awkwardness.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: And then late like the shout we're missing one thing
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: that's very different this scene.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: New hat.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, new hat.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it was so down too far.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I was down way too far. And you know it's
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: one of those like baseball hats that when you.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Have like the opening like usually like for a pony,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: like for a girl's pony tip.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like that. It didn't have a snapback.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It was like this, I couldn't even see Scott's face.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, get rid of that great call out. All
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: in all, good scene, maybe not as good as the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: two before, but but good scene. And that was sort
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: of that's where your big moment was there, Scott you
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: did not get a lot of action in this episode,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: but that's all right. All I can think of is
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Scott's getting paid and he only had to do a
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: half day's work. Darn, It's so funny. It's so true that, like,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: because we do work with a few actors, and I
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: do think sometimes they get excited, like, hey, I don't
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: have to go tomorrow.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: They're filming. I'm not.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: So we go to the Dragonfly and I thought this
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: was kind of clever too. Lorli had her hair different.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I had two flags in this scene.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And the first one, oh, you rewarded yourself. You did.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: My first flag is that larelais had this hairdo in
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the episode in the show and it's literally in season
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: one and as the credit when she kisses Rory on
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: the forehead.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, but I thought this was slightly different, but I'll
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: give you that the one where it's like.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so that's it's like they all acted like
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: she's never had her hair up. My second flag is
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Suki literally made at when they did the catering company.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: She made a whole table of food that was not
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: for kids, but acted like right, oh my god, like
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: the Pep and J's that's the only thing kids eat.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, now she has a kid, but maybe
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: she has a kid.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: But it just sounds like I would eat those Peep
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and Jay sanwiches. They were they weren't just like a
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Peep and Jay sandwich. They were like their tea, a
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: little circle, huge.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: And I guess it was more the way that Emily
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: said it to her, like.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Like I wanted.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I wanted something like, oh my god, I have kids now,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like I feel like I needed.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: But I think she learned her lesson at the birthday party, and.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: That Emily came down so hard on her. There's she
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: was probably shocked her and there's really no way to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: come back.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: It was aggressively mean to I mean, gosh, that was
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: aggressive to Suki. It was like, dude, and they the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: cuts have like the little jelly popping up.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: It was so cute.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: It was so well done.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not at a cucumber sandwich zone. I did think
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: the spinach and the teeth thing was very funny because
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: if you have braces, you're like yeah yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: And Michelle was so Michelle was so good this episode.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: He was I like, I need I needed him back.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: To and I feel like they finally gave him a
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: good episode.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I totally agree, and I like circus food. Okay. Then
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: this is what also nailed the episode for me is
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: we go to Yale to the newsroom, and Paris was Paris,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: but she wasn't annoying. She was actually hilarious calling out
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the little boy. That was fully like googoo gaga over Rory.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Like the whole thing was so funny. So you see
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the tutors doing their thing, and then you just see
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Paris criticizing all of them. It was so funny. And
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: then she's all, I have five minutes. We can be
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: friends for five minutes, and this is where the sexting starts.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: The whole thing was so funny and she's and Rory's like,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: can you not do that? While I'm like talking to you?
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was so it was a yes, I.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Wish they revealed like.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: What was it?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: What was said? You know, like h.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Family show wonder It's so funny.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: When I was watching it, I was like, like, I
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: forget that it's two thousand and six, And so for me,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I was like, does she not know what sexing is?
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: But I guess at that time, like sexing was just starting.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: And they had their sidekicks to say that there was
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: heavy product placement of the sidekick.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: That was mobile just right there.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all I know is I imagine Paris and Doyle
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: being filthy on the sexting.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I feel show.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure is dipping her toe in a little bit
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: more and Logan is upping the ante. But we'll get
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to that. So then this is the only scene that
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I didn't didn't It's not that I didn't love it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't love love it. So we get to the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: apartment and Zach and Brian are talking about sort of
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: how he thinks he's getting divorced, right, He's like it's over,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: and then she comes in and needs to talk and
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: tells him she's pregnant. It was fine, It was fine.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I don't like anything about it. I honestly, the whole
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Lane Lane storyline is really really dragging me down this season.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Like it's just over, you know, it's like everything's just
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: so what can I say?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I wanted Laane to like enjoy being in newlywed and like,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: as where does this sounds like enjoy having sex and
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: enjoy like she's not you know, like enjoy her.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Own.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: She's still with living with her with Brian, you know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: like I wanted them to have their own.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Like be a little wild. But can we talk about
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: the biggest flag in the entire episode? The honeymoon was
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: three weeks ago. He says that, Yeah, there is no
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: way she knows she's pregnant. No way, the honeymoon was
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: three weeks ago.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: She hasn't even gone to the doctor yet. She just
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: did a test.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Dude, she hasn't even missed her period. She's not like that.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: The math is so and this is gonna sound so mean,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: but can you guys tell me who wrote this episode?
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Was a man? A man that doesn't know what I'm saying?
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, technically, but not I don't think.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Wait, Amy, it's a woman who wrote the episode.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Well then how does she not know this because that
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: was strange.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Technically you can find out before you miss your period
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: three weeks I mean that would be before you miss
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: your period.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: No, but can you find out? So basically, she's three
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: weeks she had sex and it's been three weeks. Does
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: a pregnancy test work?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Then it can work like a week before your missed period.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: So technically, yes, yes, it's dice, but technically, yes, that
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: is not the normal. That's not the normal.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: And yeah, so that was a little hanky.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I may say, just felt like they're trying to speak.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: It's like they're dragging on Lane story line but speeding
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: it up at the same time. Do you know what
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, Like, let's just give her like so many
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: scenes that we kind of don't want to see. But
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: also suddenly she's pregnant.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Did somebody go like, what are we going to do
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: with Lane? Aha, let's make her pregnant.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: It would be different if they like if she I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: don't know. I think for me, it would be different
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: if she went on her honeymoon she had sex with
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the first time. She liked it and she was excited
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: about being with Zach. But it's just like it was
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: had sex with this first time on the beach. It
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: was the worst thing ever. I never want to have
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: sex again. That was a weird honeymoon. YadA, YadA, YadA
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to Oh and by the way, I'm pregnant.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I just don't feel like they're serving I actually need
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: justice in this.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I actually wouldn't hate if the sex was bad all
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: that and then like they come back and they're like,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: maybe we should like try again and like those kind
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: of conversations. Yeah, like I think that would be better
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: than just like all right, well now we really don't
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: ever have to have sex again, because.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I get I think they had sex at the end
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: of the episode when they finally hugged, well, they kind.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Of start and they were like really trying to make
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Lane look pregnant. Yeah, three, shirt was lifting and wait,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: not for a bump.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't notice that. I didn't you noticing me?
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Like they literally like her her shirt her pants were
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: so low that her shirt was high and it tried
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: to they tried to show a bump.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Were you sure it wasn't.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Just like, no, they've never showed her skin like that, Like.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Can Jackie find that while we continue so that when.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: We to what, Yeah, yeah, they showed her skin and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it did look like there was a bump.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: They've never done that ever.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: They I don't think Lane Lane's has showed anything but
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: arms exactly.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I need to see that. So we go to the
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Dragonfly for a scene that I love because the girls
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: are coming in for their tea. Michelle is having the
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: time of his life. The one girl that's just like
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: the back you know, the sneakers girl later that's shoving
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: food in her mouth and wall and like, I love
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: that girl and I know a.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Little with the shoes. She's so cute.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: The whole thing was so cute and Michelle is just like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: you must take me and we have the sticky note,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I owe you, you know whatever. That whole everything about
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: it was so good. And setting up that they're going
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: to the Katillion.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I think Michelle, if he could would be like would
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: be in the like it would go through Is it
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: going through a kittilion? What's the correct burbon?
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I just except going to kotillion, like he would.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Go to Kotilion, or like Ailian, like he would be
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: one of the one the girl, oh my god, it's.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: So cute, like he gets her to dance this the
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: whole he took paul Anka all of it. It was
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: very clever and with the girls in the background. I
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: could have watched those girls for so much longer, just
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: all their funny stuff and Emily telling him about the
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: forks and that's where we learn you don't put the
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: knife down on the somewhat fine linen, but much more
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: fancy linen for the it was great.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I agree. I loved everything about the Katilion.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Then the scene that I really did not care for.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: We're back at the apartment and it's like Zuck keeps
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: forgetting that they're pregnant, Like it's.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Like he's like seeing her to drink a beer and ending.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was so dumb. That was just so
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: dumb dumb. Then we go to the library and I
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: enjoyed this scene quite a bit. Lane's reading what to
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Expect when You're Expecting and all the books and she's
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: losing her mind and Rory's trying to read from books
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: how to sext and the whole thing. That was a
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: cute scene and Lane was Lane.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Was Rory too, like going to books again and like
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: trying to read up on it or well it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Is so Rory, right, like of course she's gonna copy
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: out of a book her first sext and then Christopher
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: calls to go to dinner. It was all good.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: I think the one the one thing for me is
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: like and maybe for going back to the Lane storyline
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: is like she just sects so immature. I'm like, at
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: this point they're probably what twenty one, twenty two, twenty one, Yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: like it just for me, I'm like, you're not sixteen, Lane, Like,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: The I agree with you, except for in this scene
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I thought she seemed twenty one where she was sort
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: of telling Rory no sex, do it like she was
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: much more sassy Lane, And so I don't.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Know, you know what, I'm just I'm gonna go out
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: on a limb here. I don't think that's the show
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And I think that was a mistake.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Talk to me. I had a feeling you would feel
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: this way.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: It just is it's not within the parameter of what
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: has already been set up that's appropriate for the show.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think you think. I don't think the audience appreciated.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I think a large part of the audience didn't appreciate
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the sexting, the lay stuff, with how horrible the marriage
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: is and how out of touch they are. And I
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: don't think a lot of what we saw here in
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: this episode, now that I think about it a little
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: bit reflected the values of the show or the values
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: that the show has always represented to this fan base.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I had a feeling you might feel this way because
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: basically what it did, in my opinion is the show
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: is very PG and this took it to PG thirteen.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: I personally liked it. I was ready for it. I
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: enjoyed that last scene with But I'll be interested to
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: see what other fans think because I think there will
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: be people who agree with you.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a little indifferent because, like I didn't mind it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Like I've seen shows obviously that have talked about sex
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: way more, but I think for this show, it just
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: came kind of out of left field right off the
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: bat in the first three episodes of season seven, like
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: maybe if you sprinkled it in sure, but now this
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: is three up? Is it two or three three episodes
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: of like sex talk, and so I think for having
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: six seasons of like the only time sex being mentioned
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: is like Lorelei sleeping with someone.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Because Rory lost her virginity. On this show, you guys
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: do a married man. They've definitely gone there.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: But it wasn't to detail of like how it was
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: where they talked about it so much. I think, like
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: they mentioned it with Dean, but I think this is
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: just like now repetitive where it feels.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: A little forced.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: It feels forced. I would say the Dean storyline totally
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: like made sense, right, Like.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Not that it's a coming of age.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a coming You're right, it's a coming of
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: age story. But I do agree with you. The sex
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: scene storyline and Lane getting pregnant is just feels so
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: jammed down, like our throats. I don't know how to
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: explain it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: It's like so.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Forced and not in line of what I think they
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: would do as characters.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, I liked it. I you know what, I think
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Rory needs to be sexting. I'm gonna say it, like
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: she needs to be a little more like that. And
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I liked that Lane was encouraging her. And Paris of
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: course would be the one to think of it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of. I don't know if I would have.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know what this means, but like I feel
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: like I would have maybe liked it a little bit
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: more coming from Logan first and Rory being like, WHOA
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: what is this?
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: But that could respond. I think Rory had to go
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: first because she is Rory, right, and Logan knows who
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: she's he's dating. If he went first, it could be
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: interpreted as like, h cringe this guy. But because she
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: started it and then he was fully in m hmm,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not mad at it, but I respect see people.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I respect another opinion, but I knew Scott wouldn't like it,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: because Scott.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: No, it's you have to understand the medium you're working in.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: You have to understand the show, right. You risk alienating
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: an audience by going outside of that, you know. And
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: it's like, this business is all about staying in your lane,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: and once you established that you've dominated a lane, you
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: stay there. I don't I think it was risky and
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it didn't work for me personally as
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: a fan of the show. Some people think it's okay,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: it's fine. You know, we can disagree. It just did
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: not seem it didn't fit in the show for me.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'll give you that. It's a little something something.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not wholesome. This is a wholesome show
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: that takes risks in They're already taking big risks with
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the with the Emily and Richard storyline, with you know
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that that broken family, but the focus is this family.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Getting into the details of how horrible the sex was
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: on the beach and I hate sex and I never
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: want to do sex again, and even saying the word sex, sex,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: sex on the beach with Zach was awful. It was terrible.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: There's crabs. Oh, nobody wants to hear this?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I do, I don't.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was funny, not from.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Them, not from that. I liked this.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: That part I didn't like, but I did. I'm into
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: the sexting thing. I thought the scene with Paris was hilarious.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I thought it was hilarious that she was sexting with Doyle.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I thought the comedy was funny with Rory being grossed out,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: and that Rory's copying it out of a book. I
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: don't mind. The pregnancy storyline is not great. The other
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: one I'm okay with. I don't mind it. All right,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: we'll continue, we can agree to disagree and see where
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: it takes us.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, So then now, right now, Arthur Godfrey somewhere is
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: turning over and great.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: We go back to Laura's house where she's picking out
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: her Katillion outfit, which I thought actually was funny when
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: she tried on that outfit that wasn't great AND's like
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: and Rory reveals that she's going to go to dinner
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: with Christopher, and she sort of says, we're not not talking,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: and we kind of get that and then she's doing
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: hashtag relatable what every girl does.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Ask you, Amy, I have a question for here. Why
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: is your Why is your boyfriend always popping up in
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: these episodes now making random phone calls to Rory and Laurela.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Thank you for asking talking about Christopher because my first
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: boyfriend is Logan Christopher. My second boyfriend is Christopher. And
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: here's the thing. I've had some cringe with Ickstaffer, but
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: now I'm kinda back with him. I'm okay with him
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: in this episode.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Oh no, not me.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna definitely agree to disagree because I sort
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: of was enjoying him, so okay, there was something. Oh yes,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Rory is doing what every girl does, which is send
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: a text and then completely stress over it your phone.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Make a friend text you to make sure your phone
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: is working. I mean the whole thing.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: I was like, read check to see if it went through.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, can you send me a text so that I.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: Know that you got that last one? Yeah?
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Oh I'm getting a text like it's so good.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: That's still relatable.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. It really made the episode.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Except now it's is it blue? Did it go?
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, why.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Am I green? Why did I go green. Okay, So
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: then we go back to Lane's apartment. They're having their
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: bagel bites, and this is where they finally talk after like, well,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Brian's feel.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Did we talk about the part where Zach just is
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: like I think it was this scene or maybe it
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: was another scene where she's like, oh, I should be
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: drinking milk and he's like, I'm having cravings too, or
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: you know that, like weird.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Was I think the scene before that was.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I thought all these scenes were forced.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: This one was the like, well, this finds freaking out.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: She's like, well, I'm freaking out.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: This is where they show them.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Can someone show me this? Yeah?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: And then they say this baby totally sucks that.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody showed me this bomb.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: It's just not Gilmore girls, how do you say that
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be in the delivery room and.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: He doesn't want to cut the tube?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Bab you know this. These are the best moments of
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: a father's life. I went through all of those moments
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: and hours twenty one. How old you are, man, that's
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: your kid, and it's a beautiful moment, and I just
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: think that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I think it's also ze they're freaking out right now.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Because they're twenty one, they've been married for a day.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: It's character destruction.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: He also their characters interesting.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: That's an interesting Does.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: He have a job, clearly not if he's in a band.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: He's drinking beer and playing video games as an expectant father,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: which I guess somebody has. How old is he supposed
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: to be in this anyway?
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Isn't he about her age a little bit older?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: How old is that?
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Twenty two, twenty three? Gil is obviously older.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: What's Gil got to do with this?
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying in the band, they're like in
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: the band, I think the three of them are all
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: about the same age. And then he's I'm not looping
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: him in. He's obviously older.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Sent the Let me look, you know, this episode keeps
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: going off the rails, and you know it gets back
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: on from time to time.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: You've got I think that her shirt just went up.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: No, this is not here that.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: It did go up, But I just think it's I
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: don't know, right, I maybe I agree. I don't know
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: if they were intentionally trying to show a bump. I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: just think during the hug and it was so passionate
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: that her shirt went up a little bit and revealed
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: her stomach.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: But like my thought process was like they they would
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: have fixed that or redone the scene, right if they
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: didn't want her skin showing.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look at the video I just sat. It's a
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: little bit clearer there.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I just think she's a day pregnant. Okay, hold on watching.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah that'stically.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're saying like they made her wear something
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: like I don't know, they did stomach.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: They liked that shot, like for I don't know, I
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: I think maybe I don't know, Danielle, when did you
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: start showing with your first baby?
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: You don't show to like four months?
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna say, is like,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Our shirt just went up.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I think our shirt just went up. I don't think
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: we should make a thing about this too, because it's
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: not correct. That's what I love, trying to show a bump, right.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: That's what I look like if my shirt goes.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I totally disagree. I think when they were shooting this,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: they liked that. They liked that that her her shirt
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: went up and we saw her stomach because we never
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: have seen Lane's stomach before this.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh God, For some ofthing that just took me
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: back to when she was like petting that guy's hair,
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: like episode two Good Old Days. We go now to
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: the Ketillion and Michelle is living his best life. He
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: is so stoked he got Loralai a ginormous cassage. She's
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: all mad she didn't get him a boot near. I mean,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: it is so good. She sees the Caroline girl who's
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: sort of the mini Loreli wearing the converse, and they
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: wave and Charlotte is introducing her to the grandparents and
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: they're all so very polite, and Michelle gets sort of
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: dance and she's having a good time. I mean, that
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: was really cute. There are moments where she doesn't hate
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: the world she's from. She just gives it a try.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: And she was so cute with Charlotte, who was talking
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: about the dance, and like, you know, maybe it made
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: me think of I kind of wish that we got
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: more scenes of her with April.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Interesting, you know, honestly, I felt that even this stuff
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: was forced as well. You know, Michelle debanding to go
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: to the Cotillion. I mean, it's quite quite odd, you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I liked it.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that didn't bother me that, like something Michelle would do.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Because he's so like fancy pants and it is like
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: he's with his people. Finally, yeah, he's found his group
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: of peeps.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I liked all that. I liked it for some reason.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I was very drawn to the Charlotte character. I could
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: have had many episodes with her.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: I was drawn to Lorelei's character in the Kilian group,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: like I would have loved to hear them have more
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: of an interaction because for the most part, it was
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: just like Loreal's like, I got eyes on you, I
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: know who you are, I get you, I understand you.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: But they didn't really have, you know, a.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Scene, and she was so cute. Okay, so then we
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: get back to that. We're back at the kitchen at
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: the Gilmours and Chris, Christopher, and Rory are splitting up
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: the food and feeding paul Anka some key lime pie.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I even thought the brownie line was funny. He's like,
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: you ordered a brownie, right, but like only one. I
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: thought that they had a cue banter. And then Christopher
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: and Lorlyi are sort of have their awkward moment and
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: she offers him coffee and then he really just spills
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: his gut, which I get what.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: He's all in. It's his version of being all in.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Gosh, so I don't know what else he was supposed
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: to do. It's like it was a little over the top.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm like, okay, respect.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean an honest moment, right, Yeah, you know
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: he's we don't want him there in the first place.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: But he stood there and face the music and said,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you know, unpacked his feelings. And I thought he did
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: it in an exemplary way. He was honest, and he left.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this and then I'll tell you
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: the thing that everybody asks about this scene. So you're Christopher, right,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: And I know a lot of people are mad at
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Christopher that he slept with Laura Lai right, Like, they're
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: so mad about it. They're like, why would he do that?
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: He should have been her friend, he should have been
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: there for her. But if we are to take it
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: at face value that he loves her and he's so
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: in love with her, she's the one for him and
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: he's finally realized that and she knocks at his door,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I would I don't think very many quote friends in
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: that position would say no.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think Christopher's in the wrong with that. I
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: do think Laurel is the one that's wrong for going there,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and I like he's just he's taking her lead. You know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: she's the one that's leading this relationship. Really, she's the
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: one that's sparking a fire back into it and he's
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: following it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I don't know if Scott
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: and Tarr have a different take on it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: No, I agree because she kind of opened the door
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: for that to happen, Like I don't. He wasn't going
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: to stumble into her house like he knows that she's engaged.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: But I get what you're saying, like if that, if
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: she came in his door, so he took it.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Even if you have episodes ago when she was super
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: drunk at the wedding, he slept on the chair, you know,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: like he.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Is a right, that's a great point. He was a
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: good guy. He's not taking advantage of her, No, just
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: following her lead. But he's definitely we knew at the.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Wedding, stop parasite. He turns up when.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I know you, I get why you
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: don't like him, But at the same time, I'm not
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: sure he's so.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: We're not supposed to like him.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: Well, Scott, I understand what you mean when like he
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: just shows up, but this time it actually really was
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Laurel opening the door and then Rory calling or sorry
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Rory saying like, yeah, let's go to dinner. So like
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: he did get the invite.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: He is a parasite, Like, yeah, for sure, he is
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: a parasite, but he's not to blame in my opinion.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: You know, Laurel.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Did remind me if Laurel I set because all of
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: this spills onto Rory as well, right as well? Right,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: so lare behavior. You know, it's crucial here to set
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: up these boundaries. And maybe she's just not very good.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: It never does that, like not to dog lor Lie,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: but the minute you date.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not trying to do that, but I'm asking
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a question.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: No, No, I'm the one doing the dogging. I'm dogging her,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: right because if you the minute you date your kids teacher,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: you don't have boundaries.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Right, There's there's no boundaries here. So like all of
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: this wackiness and all of this chaos and hurt and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: pain is possible because you've got a seemingly responsible adult
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: who is a great mother, right, a great person, a
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: great mother. But you know there's no boundaries to these,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: That's right. People just keep kind of walking and she's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you know, she's so attractive and she's so wonderful. How
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: people can't resist, right, and this is what we're supposed
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: to believe, and we do that.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Forgot about Digger too, Like you know, she.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Has to dat your dad's business arch or he does it,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: and she has no boundaries for Richard and Emily or Rory.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Now I have a question based on something Scott said,
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: we're not supposed to like Christopher. I disagree. I think
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: we're supposed to like him a little bit.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I think we're supposed to understand him. I don't think
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: we're supposed to like him. I think we're supposed to
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: understand him.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Because I don't think he's seven is a desperate attempt
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: to try to rehabilitate a character that's not rehabilitate to.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Bold, I don't. I think throughout the course.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Of the SERI it's such an awkward season.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm saying you may be right, but
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, throughout the course of the season, I
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: don't think Christopher is the villain. I think we're supposed
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: to like him a little bit because I actually felt
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: for her before when they were kind of hooking up again,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: and then then he finds out that Sherry's pregnant and
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: he goes back to Sherry. That was painful. And we
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have pain like that if we were supposed to
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: hate him, we'd be like, praise the Lord, get rid
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: of this loser. No, we're drawn. I can only speak
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: for myself. I'm a little bit drawn to Christopher. I
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: don't hate him. I do there's things about him I like,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: and I'm intrigued. If he was the villain, I'd be like,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: he sucks, Like I'm trying to think of a villain
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Lex Luthor. I hate Lex Luthor, Like guy sucks.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: I think having a show also, I get what you're saying, Amy,
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: I think the show also may have like changed him
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: a little when like suddenly he got all this money
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: and he wanted to be Rory's dad and so like
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: it makes the audience want to care for him because
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: now he can support his daughter. And I'm not saying
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: that's how it should be in any situation, in every situation,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: but I think for Chris Christopher, like that was kind
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: of of his redemption.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: Take care of Rory.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, so these two Laurelin and Christopher are not speaking
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: right now. Correct, they're not hang on, hang on right,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I know, right, I got that, but they're not right now.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: They're not talking. They're not speaking.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: Well, she just didn't return his phone call.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Rory has an automobile, correct, Yeah, so he
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: forces he makes a phone call and if I'll come
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: pick you up and then i'll drop you off and
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I'll be around and I'll hang around. This is the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: parasitic nature of this character.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: That's her dad.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think a dad is ever gonna say, hey,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: twenty year old drive across.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: She told him not to get his hopes up after
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: the first after they slept together, right. She tried to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: correct her mistake with him, like, please respect my wishes.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: This isn't going any farther her, you know. And here
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: he is making it's fine to go have dinner with
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: your daughter, but at least respect laurelized space.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Right, that's a good point.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I don't want to f up your relationship with your mom,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to f up your world because
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I came picked you up, and you know, I'm trying
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: to create a situation where I'm going to run into
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Laurel I because I love her so much, because I
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: can't control myself because I have no boaler. It's like
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: two people that then a boundary.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: I did think of that. I actually did think of that.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: He also didn't have to come in, like he could
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: have dropped her.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Off, he thought, and then just driven home.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: And actually thought the coming in was the boundary cross
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: not the picking up, because think about how many divorced
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: parents they picked their kids up. They wait outside, or
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: they they knock on the door, and the other person
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: invites them in whatever, into the kitchen. Unless Rory was like, no, dad,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: come in. We don't know.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it was all fine until he
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: came into the kitchen. Like everything else about them going
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: to dinner together, I didn't mind.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: It's not acting like adults.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Okay, so we've got two more super important things. The
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: sexting begins. I know how I feel. How do you
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: all feel?
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to I don't know how to answer this.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: It's like it's not it's a different show. All of
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: a sudden it's euphoria.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: I thought. The one thing that was kind of dumb
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: is that she responded, but she never saw it because
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: she's been checking that phone like crazy.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Well went into some weird secret envelope or something. I
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: don't remember how the side gets.
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: I don't remember.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's because of the time. I don't remember
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: how it worked. But I weirdly didn't hate it at all.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I like Logan sexting, like, you know what, I go
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: for it, Logan, you do you like? I think? I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: think it's it feels right coming from Logan.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: That's why, especially his reaction, what this feels like.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: This feels like a spin off show.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: I would have love that spin off.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: This feels like a spin off show starring where like Laurel,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I and Luca, the supporting characters, Lane and Rory are
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: the main characters. So we're kind of what you're saying.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't even feel like Gilmore Girls anymore.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I I respectfully disagree. This episode felt pretty good to me,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: and I like, I think it's maybe because I crush
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: on Logan so hard. When she calls him and was like,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: did you get my text? And he's like, yeah, I
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: got your I was so in. I was like, oh,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I got I got our text.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: He's also just giving Rory what every girl wants.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: No, that was a good text, you know, and you
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: know he crushed it, freaking Logan crushed.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: I agree, and he wrote back something. He leveled it
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: up like it was like poker, I'll see your whatever,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: and I raise you. And obviously I thought it was
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: exactly cute when she's like, I can't do it while
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: I'm on the phone with you. The whole thing was cute.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: I liked it, and the banter between them with the
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: sex thing was I liked it. I liked it more
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: than the conversation with Laine about it.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: And then we go upstairs for the either gut punch.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Or gut punch.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: For me, it was a sorry, sorry y'all. So, Scott,
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: how do you feel that Laura Lai called Christopher and
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: don't let me forget to say the thing that everyone
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: comments on, don't let me forget.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: It's just at this point it's just a hack show.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: It's not it's not it's just melodrama, you know, It's
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: it's so off the rails it's hard to follow it.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Now you know, you know, I'm I'm entertained by some
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: of the scenes. Some of it feels like the old show,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: but most of it doesn't.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: What's annoying is that every episode in season seven so far,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: and granted I know there's only three, but has ended
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: with Lorelei seeking Christopher. Yeah, you know, it's like, haven'm
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: be together on an even episode two?
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Didn episode two end?
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I think it's. I think it's the
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: unwillingness of the How do I say this without sounding
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: like a complete tool, sounding like a well, it wasn't
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: it hasn't been a problem so far from now.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I want to hear.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess you know, when you destroy a character,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: it's like who cares what anybody does?
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, Luke and Laurel I were such a big
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: part of that show, and now Luke's being treated like,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: you know, just just this sort of like supporting character,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: and now it doesn't really matter, and now we can
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: explore this Christopher thing. And I just think that that's
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: where the mistake was made, right.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of put him on like the back burner,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Like suddenly Christopher is getting more scenes than Luke.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he and he didn't earn him. Yeah, and
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: then there's there's there's no justification for it, there's no
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: logic to it, there's no but I mean, it is
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the nature of life. Sometimes things happen out of the
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: blue and they're you know, they're shocking, and it's just
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: maybe they could have handled it, they've done it a
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: little in a little more artful way, I guess. I
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: don't know. And also it just feels so ham handed
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: and a character just sort of discarded, you know, I think.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: And that's why I think it was so disappointing for
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: the fans, because nobody's really acting like themselves anymore. It's
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: hard to recognize the show. So anyway, there you go.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: So okay, I don't let that sink in. I I
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: don't disagree or agree. I'm sort of like, there definitely
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: are things about season seven where you're like, what's going on?
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: But then there's also things where are like, yeah, gilmore girls.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: So I'm sort of in the middle.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there is if you if you
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: have a successful relationship and a show the deep the
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: taps so deeply in to the fantasy life of a dedicated,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: religiously dedicated fan base. I don't know how you mess
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: with that. I thought that that's a mistake.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that. They know how to not
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: mess with it.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: If you look at look, if you look at Luke
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Laurelai as public service. Okay, let's just look at it
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: like this has been offered to the world. This makes
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: people feel good, This heals people. And I only sound
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: too nutty about it. No, no, but fans worship this relationship.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: This is this is relationship goals. You know, to find
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: a guy like Luke to be a woman like laurel
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I to be together in a new relationship that's that
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: full and that passionate and that fraught with yes, anxiety
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: that it's going to break up somehow. I mean, it's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: really on tender hooks but a lot of the time.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: But that's kind of the beauty of it. That's the
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: magic of it. The sparks are flying all of the time,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: and you idealize something so much for six seasons. That's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: a big chunk of people's lives.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: No, that's true, that's true.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Cross it away, huge misstep. Sorry, that's my two cents.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna shut up now.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: No, no, never shut up. There is a moment in
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: the kitchen that many people are conflicted about, which I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: did listen to seven times. So there are many people
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: that think. Christopher says Lauren that he calls her Lauren,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: and if we replay the scene, you'll see it. He
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: actually upon really listening, he's saying lore And did anybody notice?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't. But should we should we?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Can't it? Well it? Let us watch it.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I can. I can pull it up and then I'll
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: put this sound on my computer.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, good if you really listen in it's lore and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: it was so right Lauren.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: You may not see that.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Let now, but I do.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: Know Lauren, one thinks, he says Lauren.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: He definitely says Lauren.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: No, he says, but it was so right. Do it again.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: You do it again.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: It was so right, Lauren.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: You may not see that right now, but or and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: you may not see that right now, I can see it.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: The English subtitles say too.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: So what do you guys give it?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: I give it eight out of ten. Peb and Jay Sandwiches, I.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Give it six point eight.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Pop Tarts, I'm giving it nine. I owe you from
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: Lorli stickies. M.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: That's cute.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: That's cute.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I got a couple of chuckles out
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: of it. I appreciate that. So, but I do not
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: like witnessing characters being taken behind the shed and shot
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: in the back of the head, as it were. And
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: that's what we're witnessing here with two of the most iconic,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: delightful characters. And so I'm going to give it half
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: a point. Oh my god, not even no, not a
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: full point. No, no way, I can't. I can't support
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: this level of destruction.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: It's just did you feel this way when you were
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: doing it?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: You weren't even on set for this episode, right, I
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: think I was just happy that I wasn't there, you know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: to be around this.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: Were the Were the vibes on set different in this season?
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, they were, they were. It was. Look, it's
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: always good to have a job that long. Yeah, it's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: just so rare, and so I think everybody I was
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: pleased that I had a job. But I I don't know.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe it just what I'm witnessing here. Maybe maybe it
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: was a good idea once Amy and Dan left the show,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: that everybody sort of packed up and left with him.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe the legacy of the show would have
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: been a little more respected, you know, I think.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: It definitely is well respected.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: No, no, I didn't say that it wasn't. I said
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: more respected versus I think once. I think once the
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: original creators exit, then it should be done. It's something
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: like this, it cannot be replicated. And I remember thinking
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: during this episode that I almost regretted being involved in
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: the seventh season. But it's, you know, it's difficult to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: walk away. Actually it's you can't walk away from the job.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, this show is just being
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: destroyed before our eyes, and it's something that means the
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: world to so many people. And now I understand what
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: they say. They can't they just skip season seven, they
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: don't watch it when they rewatch it, you know what
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I'm really trying to be positive about this. Don't get
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: me wrong. I'm really trying. And there was some good
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: things in this and there's some good writing, and it
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: just shows how hard it is to replicate something so
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: unique coming from you know what. You have to admit
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: with Amy and Dan are two geniuses, right are at
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: the top of the business, the top of their craft.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: And this does happen to shows a showrunner leaves and
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: the show the bucket that does happen. You're not This
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: isn't the only thing. I won't go as far as
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: to say that's happening.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: And great writers all on this show season seven, in
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: their own right, could have gone on to write incredibly original, fantastic,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: award winning shows, super talented people. But to ask somebody
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: to like, hey, you want to replace Brando on Broadway
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: and Streetcar named Desire and try to do what he did,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: go ahead, have fun, not gonna happen. You're just gonna
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: you just go.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's it's different because like a good example I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: have is like I've I mean, we love you, buddy,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: Like greas Anatomy just renewed for season twenty one and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Shonda Rhyme's left I don't even know how many seasons ago,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: and like, as someone who's watched the whole time, I
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: definitely notice a shift, but then it would always come back.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: And it's funny because I still love the show and Amy,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: I know you watch too, But there's something so different
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: about Gilmore where it makes me wonder if they got
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: a season eight maybe like they needed to work out
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: the kinks like without Amy and Dan in season seven?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? And maybe there's.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: No there's no way to do that. How you're going
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: to work out the kinks? What do you mean?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know without without those two brains.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Well, what Tur's point was is there are shows that
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: replace a show runner like Shonda Rhimes and you don't
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: miss a beat.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but where have you ever seen a show like
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: this like Gilmore Walking Dead?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: Did it?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: That? Is this unique?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: That's not a dialogue heavy show, is it.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I'm just saying Walking Dead
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: lost their show runner, and I thought the show was
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: as good Aaron Sorkin left West Wing and I thought.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: Really show? Really they bring in Nagan destroys the show.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You felt that was a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: good idea?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all part of the comic book. We don't
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: need a debate Walking Dead because Nigan's in the comic books.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is Aaron Sorkin left West Wing
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: and it did continue to be an amazing show. I'm
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: not saying. Look, I don't hate season seven, but I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: do think Tara's point is taken that Gray's Anatomy lost
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: their amy Sherman Palladino, who is Shonda Rhymes, and the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: show is still amazing. So maybe, look, I'm not saying anything,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: but maybe there was a showrunner that could have taken over.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: I think the problem was it all happened unexpectedly, where
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Shonda Rhimes maybe worked with someone for multiple years to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: coach them up. I don't know, I'm talking out of school.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying Walking Dead maybe a comic book, and
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: they stayed true to it with Nigan, but now Gilmore
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Girls season seven is turned into a comic book.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: See, I disagree with that.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I did not care caricatures of once great characters. I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: don't recognize him and it's hard to watch.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, I loved this. I really really enjoyed this episode.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think there's a lot of people
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: who agree with you. I think there's a majority of
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: people that we're hearing from that do not like season
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: seven that until episode nineteen, they all turn around on
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: episode nineteen, which we're not there yet. I enjoyed this
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: episode quite quite a lot.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Personally. It's hard to watch. You know, you put in
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: six years of hard work into something and everything you
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: have inside you to create a character, right, and then
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: just to see it all sort of pissed on?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: And what do you blame? Hard It's hard to blame
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: how what do you blame that on the showrunners leaving?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: Or do you blame the network because they didn't pay
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: them what they want? I don't give them the two seasons.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anybody to blame. It's just something.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: It's just something that happens, you know, it's just something
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: that it's just something that happened, and you sort of, yeah,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: you can't believe it's happening, but it's, but it is.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: And you're not there as much, and you know, you're
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: at the able reads and you read these stories and
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: storylines and you're just sort of like, hmm, yeah, wow, okay,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: but again your powerless and you are powerless to do
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: anything about it, right, just sort of show up and
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: do your job, you know, well you can.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: I did not dislike this episode, But we'll see what
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: happens next week. I don't know, and I don't know
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: if maybe at episode nineteen, which is you know, feels
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: a long way from now, maybe you'll have a turn around.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: But anyway, well let's now that we're going to leave
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: it on a high note. What an enjoyable listener next week.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: It's wonderful, It's marvelous. It kept making me think of
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: the marvelous missus Maisel.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Really, we're not that lucky. We're not that lucky. Anyway,
• 1:09:56
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