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Trailer Kid's Apple Bet: Money Energy Unleashed (Full) · Solving America's Problems

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Alex: On this takeover episode of Solving America’s Problems, Jerremy tells guest
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host Robyn Ivy that a six-year-old kid in a Georgia trailer with no running
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water somehow bought Apple stock in 1995.
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[thoughtful] That same kid just revealed the exact same energy that
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turned three thousand dollars into life-changing wealth is identical to
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the energy most people bring to their relationships—and to money itself.
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Robyn Ivy presses Jerremy on how commitment issues, shame around pleasure,
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and refusing to feel rich even when you are rich keep the money flowing
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out faster than it ever flows in.
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Jerremy and Dave sit with Robyn as she flips the script, forcing
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Jerremy to confront why hunger still exists in a country with
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billionaires and GLP-1 obesity drugs…
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Hi.
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Welcome back to Solving America's Problems.
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I'm your guest host, Robyn Ivy.
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Today we're doing something different.
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I get to interview one of my favorite people of all time, and like a
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brother to me, Dave Conley, who's living in a support role of Jerremy.
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And I couldn't be happier to meet you Jerremy and
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Jerremy: Likewise.
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Robyn Ivy: I take over your podcast.
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Thanks
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Jerremy: is.
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It's, yeah, it's gonna be so fun.
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So fun.
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I love interacting with new people.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah, this is great.
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It's great to do a little bit of a friendly takeover
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of somebody else's space.
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Jerremy: Yeah, likewise.
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Robyn Ivy: So for your listeners who don't know who I am, my name's Robin Ivy.
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I'm a life coach.
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I live here in Rhode Island, but travel around the world teaching and presenting.
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And I'm a medium and intuitive guide and I host the Robin Ivy podcast where
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we talk about navigating change and creating the life you want while you
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navigate the one you actually have.
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We dive deep in all sorts of spiritual conversations.
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I talk about thought leadership and really how to change your
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life from the inside out.
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So this felt like a pretty cool place to talk about solving problems and
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all the things you guys talk about.
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Jerremy: Yeah, absolutely.
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I think blending and co-creating both worlds will be, uh, very magical.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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Cool.
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Jerremy, when I was in Miami a couple weeks ago with Dave, he said something
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that's like really stuck with me.
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He said, of all the things that he's learned from hanging out with you, that
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you sang to him, that your relationship to money is essentially the same
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as your relationship to everything.
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And that if you figure out your relationship to relationship, then
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your to money will completely change.
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How true is that?
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And tell me about that.
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Jerremy: Radically true.
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Uh, in my opinion, I, I feel like money is a relationship, energy.
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And one thing that I've noticed for some people, not everyone, but a lot
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of people have commitment problems.
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We have commitment issues, so,
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Robyn Ivy: I can't relate.
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Dave: me either.
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Jerremy: Picking something and sticking to it like, all right, cool.
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I guess me and you for a long, long, long time is really, really challenging.
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And.
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For money that oftentimes can feel the same as well, where you get some, but you
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never feel like it's enough and it doesn't stay with you very long because as soon as
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you get it, you pay all the bills, you pay off your debts, you pay all the things.
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And it's like, well, yeah, that's what some I'm supposed to do.
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But then the money doesn't really stay there, just like a relationship might not.
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And you always feel like you're in this circle of the perpetual ness of not ever
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having enough, or the individuals that do actually have plenty of money, not
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recognizing and realizing that they have enough, not feeling like they have enough.
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So it's very much one thing to be rich.
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It's another thing to feel rich.
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It's one thing to have prosperity.
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It's another thing to perpetually create prosperity and to scale it
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and to grow it and to have more of it just like in a relationship, right?
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Having more love and having love expand versus picking someone and
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just dealing with all of their problems again big shifts there.
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Robyn Ivy: Tell me how you know this.
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Jerremy: I've studied both relationships and money in depth very
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closely for a long period of time.
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The relationship piece, more from the study of energy, masculine and feminine
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energy and just understanding to the best of my ability, what embodies an
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individual, what they carry with them from a day-to-day basis, what they
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actually do, what they say, what they use, and what type of energy that is
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holding within themselves and what the purpose of it is and why they're doing it.
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And then also the money piece kind of happened to me and for me, and then
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ultimately through me and the money.
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Understanding money, understanding how it moves was just always fascinating to me.
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I love the stock market since a very little kid and seeing how both
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of them connected was really as I got closer and closer to my wife.
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We got married five years ago in February.
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As that relationship started coming together, it made it a lot more clear.
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'cause she's very much more in your world.
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So she has her doctorate in metaphysics, so she's very, very,
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uh, she's the queen of the Woo, like, as far as you can go into ville.
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My wife is the mayor of
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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Jerremy: and
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Robyn Ivy: Uhhuh.
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Jerremy: learning about her world and, oh, you two will have a blast.
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You two will have a blast.
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So she, she loves it.
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But, and then seeing her, her unique struggle when we met about
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charging money for her services.
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Keeping money, how she did it, how she thought about it, and then just having
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really in depth conversations from someone who's way smarter than I am in everything.
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Uh, and then having this back and forth dialogue of why was she struggling
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with growing her business or making a lot more money, or keeping a lot
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of money or feeling safe around money or feeling safe around men.
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And just having this really cool back and forth and just relaying
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it and tying it all to money.
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Yeah, it's been an awesome, awesome journey for the last five or six years.
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Robyn Ivy: So for my people, Jerremy, who've never heard of you and are
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excited to be meeting you like I am, can you give us a little bit of the
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backstory to put yourself in context?
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Jerremy: Yeah, totally.
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I'll do it.
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And three minutes.
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I grew up in Georgia.
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I lived in a very impoverished place.
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So about as poor as you can grow up in the United States of America.
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I grew up in a single wide trailer tree house.
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With no running water, with no air conditioning in Georgia.
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So it was always hot, it was always sticky.
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Mosquitoes the size of Pterodactyls would
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Robyn Ivy: Uhhuh.
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Jerremy: be my constant companion.
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And I watched a movie for the very first time that changed my life.
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In 1994.
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It was me, my father, and my oldest brother.
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His name is Jerry Roger.
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And we watched the movie Forrest Gump and 80% of the movie Forrest starts
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recounting the story about how he and Lieutenant Dan are investing.
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So he says, Lieutenant Dan invested into some kind of fruit company and said, we
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don't have to worry about money no more.
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So I said, good, one less thing.
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And that just baffled me at that exact moment, that moment in time.
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It was a beautiful paradigm shift.
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'cause I had never ever heard someone say, you do not have to worry about money.
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So I asked my dad, what is a fruit company?
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What's he talking about?
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I have no idea these words.
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And obviously Forrest was talking about Apple.
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They invest into Apple computers.
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And my dad started to the best of his ability explaining what Apple is and what
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the stock market is and what investing is.
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And he told me the a strategy that still works to this day.
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It's in fact probably the easiest way to explain the stock market,
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buy companies that you use.
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Do you understand their products?
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You interact with their money every day or every week.
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And if you continue to like those companies, you keep buying those
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companies, the stock will probably go up.
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And so that advice I kind of carried with me forever.
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So since the age of six, I begged my dad to invest in the stock market
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and he gave me the very, very common answers that most people give when
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we talk about the stock market.
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I don't have enough money.
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I don't have enough time.
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I'm not smart enough.
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Those are the three main ones, right?
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A lot of times it's.
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I just, I don't have any knowledge.
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Like I can't watch the news for 45 hours a day.
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Like, I don't know what you're doing.
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I don't know how to do this.
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And my answer is always, well, it's very easy, right?
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Wealth is second grade math repeated consistently and
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Robyn Ivy: That's good news.
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Jerremy: It is.
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And so once you, but the word is consistent, right?
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It's a repetition.
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It's a repetition.
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So we're all smart enough because Robin, you got an A in second grade math.
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Dave got an A in second grade math when we took in 1912.
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I got a, I got an A in second grade math.
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Um, we all got A's in second grade math.
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Yeah.
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So
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Dave: Ro Robin, we're not gonna,
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Jerremy: Me and
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Dave: here.
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Robyn Ivy: are you gonna do?
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Yeah.
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Dave: a year apart.
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Jerremy: no me and Dave.
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I'd always make fun of Dave.
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Robyn Ivy: was born in 1912.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Boy.
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Oh boy.
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Dave: God.
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All right.
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I'm going everybody.
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Thanks.
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Jerremy: but Dave's off the podcast.
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He's leaving.
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Robyn Ivy: This is how you know we're family.
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Jerremy: Yeah, no, I love Dave.
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And so we, we, yeah, I just love the stock market.
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I asked my, like I begged him and begged him and begged him and he eventually
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caved and said, BR buddy, if you bring me some money on match at dollar for dollar.
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And so I went, I picked blackberries and sold them door to door
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah,
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Jerremy: a dollar a bag and made $1,500 in the summer of 1995.
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And my dad borrowed, matched it, uh, borrowed $1,500 from my uncle Billy.
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We bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in 1995, and ever since then, I have been
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immersed and I've read book, every book I've been to, every class, every webinar.
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I've spent seven hours of my life, probably every day since the age of 12,
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studying and learning the stock market and diving into it and trading it every
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day and interacting with it every day, and helping people from all over the
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world understand it and interact with it, and then grow their wealth from it.
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Robyn Ivy: I think it's so fascinating.
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So like I just said, I'm 51, so five decades on the planet.
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It's so interesting to me how one of us is somehow hardwired
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to turn towards something.
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With great intensity and curiosity that might be a thing that other people
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spend their entire life turning away
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Or
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And when it comes to things like money or metaphysics or politics or solving
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hard problems that feel beyond our own agency, we can either really see that as
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this great opportunity to learn something and to get into that arena with it.
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Or it can be totally the opposite.
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And I love that.
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Now.
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I recognize like nobody has the time to do all of that in every category.
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So thanks for being somebody that does it in that one.
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Because if we all just share those resources with each other, then like none
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of us have to do it at that full throttle unless it's the thing we really wanna do.
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Jerremy: Yeah, totally.
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And to your point I grew up in a cult.
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I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness for
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Far, the vast majority of my life.
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And I would be terrified to talk to you, 15 years ago to talk to anyone
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that's a medium or anyone that works in the energies of something that's not.
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The Bible.
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And it was, uh, to, to your point, like we all have things that we
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love and that we focus on, that we energetically align with.
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And the more that we share that gift through the world, the
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more prosperous we will be.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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And it's interesting 'cause my dad was a Methodist minister and there was
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something about being born behind what I call like that curtain of Oz and
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seeing that discrepancy between being a human being who's here to preach about
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God and but also not be God himself.
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And that immediate question of huh, you don't seem to be living up to the
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expectations that you're preaching about.
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As no one could, right?
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But at
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Jerremy: Yeah, of course.
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Robyn Ivy: I was like, I'm seeing some gap here in this thing.
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And it really opened up a lot of exploration around metaphysical things.
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at the deepest part of that, I really felt catapulted back into
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Christianity at a very deep place because it's all the same thing really.
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It's all the same thing at the end of the road.
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In my
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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It,
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Robyn Ivy: Love that about that.
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Whether it's the energy of money or the energy of God or whatever
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denominational perspective you hold the holier you get, the truer we get
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with the thing, the pure, the energy, it seems like the better it all goes.
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Jerremy: Yes, yes, yes.
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Yep.
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Yeah, well that's, uh, I'll bring it up Robin, just so that you
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have more of the context as well.
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And for your listeners.
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The whole reason that I feel compelled and moved and guided and
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pushed towards running for president is because of all of this, right?
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Growing up, Joe's witness, that was a big no-no.
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In fact, they keep away from all politics.
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So one of their biggest I guess, core tenets of belief is
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Be separate from the world as much as possible and only interact
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with it like when you're working.
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So it's very, very, very small.
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And I would be asked all the time at 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, what
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are you gonna do with your life?
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And I would have to make up something.
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Because I already knew the answer like since I was a kid.
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Like, why, just like you, oh, you're gonna go play baseball and become a
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professional baseball, or a firefighter or a movie star or actress or whatever.
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I've always knew that the whole purpose of my life, the ultimate
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goal is to serve at that capacity, to be a leader in that capacity.
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And I was always terrified of that.
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So as after I, I was terrified of the distinction and the separation.
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'cause there couldn't be both in that particular religion.
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So once I left the religion and I realized what a great gift it was
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for me, it kept me safe, it kept me protected, it kept me from doing really,
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really dumb things because that's how I learned, I learned through mistakes.
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So I was really mistake free.
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For a vast portion of my life, and I don't really have any skeletons in the closet.
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I don't really have anything to be afraid of or ashamed of.
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There's nothing, I didn't do anything.
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I just played basketball with a bunch of witnesses my whole life, you know?
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So I didn't have any, I didn't have any negatives, uh uh, and I started doing
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a lot of the joda spina meditation work, and that's where I met my higher
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self, or the best version of me, or the most disciplined version of me.
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And every time I interact with that beingness, that meanness I've noticed
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that's what I'm supposed to do is at least really make an extremely valiant
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effort to live the reason I was created, which is to, again, to serve as the
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president of the United States of America.
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And I thought, just my funny belief that every male.
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That was born, had that desire.
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And I was like, man, I gotta compete against everybody.
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Like this is gonna be hard.
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And the more I start talking to people, the more people I realize
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that nobody wants that job.
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It's like seven dumb dudes generally want that.
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So that's why I'm here.
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That's why we're here.
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That's why Dave and I are being putting in so much time and energy and effort
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into creating something incredible.
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Robyn Ivy: And it's interesting when you think about serving at scale, like at
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whatever your definition of the highest level is, the fundamentals and the
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foundational things that it's helpful to really understand whether you are in
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full agreement with them or completely not understanding, the, understanding
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the energetics of money and the pain of money and the joy of money and the
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relationality of money or being able to do that in terms of religious experience.
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Whether you agree with things that are more dogmatic or more rigid or you open
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up to something far more unbounded.
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I think it sets you up well, especially if you're exploring masculine energy
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and feminine energy, because the more we understand about leadership, the
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more we're talking about wholeness.
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And we're talking about being able to access these different parts
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of our own humanity, which we see historically was not the case,
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: much hiding who they were in hopes that nobody would
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ever find them out, and the level of pressure of imposter syndrome.
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then you play that out at scale in the Congress and the Senate and like
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Jerremy: Huh
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Robyn Ivy: who's ever run, who never wants to admit they smoked weed
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Jerremy: Uhhuh.
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Robyn Ivy: something stupid or learned by any misstep of any kind do they
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really think that we don't know that they had to have missed steps somewhere in
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Jerremy: Yep.
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Robyn Ivy: learn something?
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Or are we meant to think they're just buffoons having clearly no experience
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other than something positive?
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The, I think the veil's ready to drop,
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Jerremy: I love that.
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Yeah.
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That's beautiful.
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Yep.
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I agree.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah I think there's so much, there's so much liberation in the things
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that at one point maybe feel like they tie us down, and I think that's, I don't know.
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I often think like it was only because I grew up as a preacher's kid, that
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I gave myself the permission to go all the way to the edge of the Woo,
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which I ironically gave me permission to pray a rosary as a Protestant kid.
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I don't I will hope, I will probably pray this rosary every day till
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I die, and who'd have thought?
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But if we're not open to this stuff, whether it's the possibility of becoming
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president or the possibility of leading a family in a different capacity or just
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leading ourself through the world or trying to invest in, in something that we
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don't understand it, what we're here for.
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Right?
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Jerremy: Yeah, I agree.
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Well, let, let's have, I'd like to ask this question, Rob.
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I think it would just be fun,
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Robyn Ivy: Sure.
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Jerremy: As it regards to the stock market.
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Tell me what your beliefs are around it, what fears you may or may not have.
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Just in, in regards to investing in stocks and trading in the markets.
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Robyn Ivy: I tend to go like this and pretend there's no
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such thing as any of this.
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That's been my relationship to all things financial and all things
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relative to financial at all.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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I
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Jerremy: That's fair.
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Robyn Ivy: nothing to do with it.
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It terrifies me, but I've learned it, it terrifies me from a place
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of not trusting myself, right?
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Like the same fear as an A DHD kid of I'm not gonna figure it out.
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I'm gonna have to know more than I know I'm gonna have to be a
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different person to deal with.
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It took me a long time of working through a lot of that fear and I think
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I still have a long way to go with it.
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But I did get smart enough to get a financial advisor and a bookkeeper and
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offload it, but then it left me feeling like I'm not in relationship with it.
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else is in a healthy relationship with it, which is better than no one being in a
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Jerremy: Sure.
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Robyn Ivy: it.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: like, progress.
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Someone is in relationship with this, but it also gets to be me one day
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not hoping they're doing a great job.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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Well, that's, I, I, I appreciate you sharing that with us, and I think
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truthfully, that's probably most people's.
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Interaction with it, and it's just scary.
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I love your awareness of your like, oh wait, I'm scared of it, because
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it's probably gonna be a me thing.
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And that really is.
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I think beau.
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Robyn Ivy: percent gonna be a me thing.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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That's beautiful awareness though.
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Robyn Ivy: more potently.
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It's not only gonna be a me thing, it's gonna be a shame thing.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: It's not.
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It's oh no.
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The only thing I'm ever turning my back on is when it's gonna be a
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shame thing that then is gonna also potentially be compounded with an
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action of consistency thing about a thing I don't feel that much self-trust
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Jerremy: Mm. Love that.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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Most
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Jerremy: that.
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Robyn Ivy: I'm like, let's go Buffalo towards a storm I'm in.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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I hope to have more in depth conversations with you about it because I, I believe
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that there's a lot of healing that goes into that journey because the
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more we understand that world, the more we'll understand about ourselves,
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we start removing and working on and healing that shame a little bit.
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Because really a lot of times it's, uh, it'll be linked to the shame of pleasure.
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'Cause that's what, that's one of the things that money brings into our lives.
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It brings a lot of pleasure.
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Uh, it doesn't have to,
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Robyn Ivy: Oh
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Jerremy: it can bring a,
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Robyn Ivy: me that he he has to spend that you, that he has to send, spend a
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certain amount of money just for fun.
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Jerremy: yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: Like one of your rules.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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WW when people say money that
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Robyn Ivy: that part, by the way.
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Jerremy: No.
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Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: There's no evidence so far to suggest that I am not good
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at spending it for fun, actually.
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Jerremy: Yes.
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Yes.
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And those, those are both interesting words, right.
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Spending and fun.
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Because, yeah, I, I, fun can be pleasurable, but giving
20:16
money away can be pleasurable.
20:18
Building churches, building schools, building hospitals,
20:21
figuring out ways to circulate it.
20:23
Spit out ways to not spend it, but just earn more of it.
20:26
'cause if you give more, you're gonna get more.
20:28
That's the other beautiful law, right?
20:30
Scriptural law in all text is like, you're gonna be provided for the more you give
20:35
and the more you provide for others.
20:37
And that's just also a beautiful recognition.
20:39
So I think that it's just a beautifully interwoven aspect of our lives.
20:43
'cause everyone needs money, right?
20:45
It's not as important as oxygen, but it's right up there.
20:48
It is really, really close, uh, oxygen and currency.
20:54
And when you start playing in both of those worlds, you will start opening
20:57
yourself up for a lot of opportunity, for healing, for expansion, for growth.
21:01
Because yes to make a lot of money and to keep a lot of money, we have to
21:06
become really, really unique containers.
21:08
We have to be a container of someone that can hold all other
21:12
things as well in our life.
21:14
not only relationships, but also, a assets, right?
21:18
Other assets.
21:18
Not necessarily only physical assets, right?
21:20
Intangible assets, things that we really step out into the world
21:24
and we're ready to be a big, bold beacon and say, Hey, look at me.
21:28
'cause again, that's what money does, is it amplifies everything that it touches.
21:31
Robyn Ivy: Totally.
21:32
Jerremy: Yeah.
21:33
Heck yeah.
21:34
Robyn Ivy: a lot of folks in the financial world talk about how money loves speed,
21:38
Something about money and quickness and I, my coaching practice, when people
21:45
are bumping up against self-trust.
21:47
That tends to be where they then wanna slow down the speed.
21:51
'cause they're like, I don't feel like I can move quick at a place of not trust.
21:56
And I was like, then that's gonna be a real setup when
21:58
it comes to money for people.
21:59
If money loves speed, but not trusting ourselves creates a this
22:03
natural inclination to slow down or stop altogether, then we're also
22:07
financially then energetically putting ourselves in a bit of a pickle.
22:12
Jerremy: Yeah, I love that.
22:13
So true.
22:14
Yes, correct.
22:16
Speed is really what, what speed means, is velocity, and then velocity
22:22
generally also means volatility.
22:24
And so you've heard that phrase before, right?
22:26
The stock market, that's a tons of volatility and people are
22:28
like, oh, it's too volatile.
22:30
Don't put me in it.
22:31
Volatility is incredible.
22:32
If you know where you're going.
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Most people don't know where they're going.
22:36
They don't have the clarity, they don't have the intention to sit down and
22:39
go, okay, this is where I wanna go.
22:40
You live in Rhode Island, so if you're gonna come out here to
22:42
Las Vegas and visit me, you're probably gonna be in an airplane
22:45
that's volatile because it's fast.
22:47
But you're gonna choose that overriding a bicycle.
22:50
And it's because one is extremely efficient and the other one's not.
22:54
I think the speed of money is also characterized by the speed of ideas, the
22:59
speed of intention, the speed of creation.
23:02
I do secretly judge people when I take them out to a dinner or, or a
23:06
lunch on how fast they can order food.
23:08
You know, how, how long they take to just interact with the world,
23:11
how long they take to interact with the decisions to move.
23:14
Because having speed of clarity and speed of intention and speed of thought
23:18
does mean that you are, and you have the capacity to create a lot more income,
23:23
money, current to or opportunity.
23:26
Robyn Ivy: is there any cost to that you've noticed?
23:28
Jerremy: Yes, absolutely.
23:29
Because most people will never make the decision.
23:31
They think they will and then they just go and then they don't.
23:34
Because I've heard
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Robyn Ivy: No, I mean
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Jerremy: ca
23:36
Robyn Ivy: fast, is there to going quickly the opposite.
23:39
Is there any cost to being to, yeah.
23:42
Is there any cost to going that quick?
23:45
Jerremy: I'm sure there is.
23:46
Yeah, I'm sure there is.
23:46
I think probably the cost would be you get too wrapped up in it and you have
23:51
the inability to be, most individuals are extremely good at human doings, but
23:56
they're not very good at human beings, so that's probably ultimately the cost is
23:59
like they don't know how to turn it off.
24:01
And they're always flying.
24:02
They're always moving.
24:03
They're always perpetually just going, and they're never here,
24:06
and they're never in the now.
24:08
Robyn Ivy: Okay.
24:08
So how do you manage that as somebody who's really good with the energy
24:12
and speed and velocity of money, but also is good at the being part I.
24:16
Jerremy: The best answer I have to that question is I have to schedule it.
24:19
And I don't know if that's the right or the wrong way, but I have to put on, I
24:24
have to put on the calendar and I have to tell my brain and my body and my mind
24:27
this, Hey, this is where we're going this weekend or this day or these hours.
24:32
You're going to sit down and do X, Y, z. I go to seminars very, very often.
24:38
We'll ask people, Hey, who here, raise your hand if you ever, if you have
24:41
ever worked for 12 hours straight?
24:44
And everyone's like, yeah, right?
24:45
They like badge of on.
24:46
They're like, I've done that.
24:48
And they get all excited.
24:49
And then I ask, who here has ever prayed for 12 hours straight?
24:53
And all the hands go down and it's just this, it's just really this idea of, Hey
25:00
man, what are you working so hard for?
25:03
Why?
25:03
Why are you spending all this time and energy?
25:05
Like if you just get closer to.
25:07
Whatever ultimate being that you believe in, you probably will be able
25:12
to close the gap between time and space.
25:14
And if you close that gap between time and space, it's probably
25:18
gonna happen for you faster.
25:19
That's one of the things I love about Joe Dispenza.
25:21
When he says, uh, the unknown, like the closer you get to the unknown,
25:25
the absolute unknown the nothingness.
25:28
When you and that nothingness become one, everything in your life will
25:32
manifest into reality instantly.
25:34
For me, that nothingness is everythingness, which is god or the
25:38
universe or love or ultimate perfection.
25:41
And I think that's just such an awesome, awesome realization where
25:43
the closer you get to that, the faster things will happen for you and I
25:47
wanna get there as much as possible.
25:49
So I think that's a, uh, a fun place to play in.
25:52
Robyn Ivy: I heard these these two women, and I forget their names, but
25:55
I, if I'm, if I remember correctly, they work for Harvard and they're
25:59
organizational, psychologists, and they were talking about how, that in
26:05
organizations that people they say slow it down to speed it up, that that was
26:10
like a big business ideology for a while.
26:12
Slow it down to speed it up.
26:13
And they said, no, that's not true.
26:15
Speed it up to speed it up.
26:17
But they said the reason that people don't speed it up in organizations
26:21
is similar to the reason we don't speed it up in our own lives.
26:24
Because if we don't trust the foundations of our systems, of our support networks,
26:28
of what we have in place, she was using the analogy of like a dock pillar where
26:33
like, you're not gonna go running out on the pilings if you don't trust that
26:36
they're in place, but if you know they're in place, you could like haul ass down
26:40
the piling no problem, but without believing that they're trustworthy,
26:44
you're gonna take it much slower.
26:46
And I was like, that's such an interesting thing, especially if we're talking about
26:50
the relationality of the money or our own trust that like we can go fast.
26:55
Because we've got the systems in place because we trust our financial person
26:59
or we trust our knowledge of the stock market, or we trust our ability to
27:03
reassure ourselves if we make a bad move that day and lose money like that,
27:07
Jerremy: Yeah.
27:07
Robyn Ivy: just abandon ourselves.
27:09
I thought that
27:09
An interesting parallel.
27:11
Jerremy: yeah.
27:11
I love that.
27:12
I do.
27:13
Robyn Ivy: How do you set yourself up for the kind of balance of rigidity and
27:18
flexibility that you need to thrive?
27:21
Jerremy: I think that also comes down to, for me, again, again,
27:24
just being extremely clear.
27:25
I think the person that's most clear and the most intentional will
27:28
win the fastest or the most often.
27:32
Perfect example.
27:33
If someone says, Hey, I want more money all the time, like that's
27:36
their perpetual daily mantra.
27:39
I would love to have more money.
27:40
I would love to have more money If you get a dollar that is more.
27:44
And, but they're not satisfied with a dollar.
27:46
So now they're upset.
27:47
And then they get this anger of not being grateful or not being in gratitude.
27:53
And the way I structure rigidity and also flexibility is one of my mantras,
28:01
I think, is follow my rules like an engineer, and know when to break them.
28:05
Like an artist, there's always these ebbs and flows, right where you have to be,
28:10
you don't wanna be the most dangerous.
28:14
Gardener in a war, you wanna be the most dangerous warrior in a garden like it.
28:19
There needs to be this balance.
28:22
I mean, that's what it all always is.
28:23
There has to be some level of equilibrium.
28:26
Another incredible, for me, just parallel that really shifts in my
28:31
life in a huge way, just if not that long ago, three or four years ago.
28:34
I heard the story differently for the very first time.
28:37
The story about the two wolves.
28:39
The, there's this Chinese father, or, you know, speaking to his younger son
28:43
and his younger son's asking about life and death and good and bad.
28:47
And the dad says that every man, every person has two wolves inside of them.
28:53
The light wolf and the dark wolf.
28:55
And the dark wolf is there for destruction and terror and creating.
29:05
Anger and making things happen through force.
29:09
And then the light wolf is happy and joyful and prosperous, and
29:12
they're always battling each other.
29:14
These two wolves are always fighting each other, and the young boy looks
29:17
at his dad and says, which wolf wins?
29:19
And the dad says, whichever wolf you feed the most.
29:22
Now, I had never heard the word the most before.
29:27
I always heard whatever wolf you feed, but in reality, we all have those two wolves.
29:31
We all have to feed them.
29:33
And so I do a lot of work with men because men, the brokenness
29:38
of any country is in direct proportion to the brokenness of men.
29:42
And if men do not have this way to internally heal, to understand and
29:48
to adopt, it's never women who have created this, oh, I'm gonna go start a
29:53
giant war for more land and more power.
29:58
Robyn Ivy: We know it's not us.
29:59
Jerremy: No.
30:00
Yeah.
30:00
It's, it is not women.
30:01
Like it's that internal.
30:04
Robyn Ivy: sure that wouldn't be how we do that.
30:07
Jerremy: We would figure out another way.
30:09
Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
30:10
We're pretty sure we could figure out another path to
30:13
And resolution.
30:15
Jerremy: But really that's a gorgeous recognition that I think
30:18
so many people just skip over.
30:19
It's listen, it's not, it's the dudes like they're the ones
30:24
that are ruining everything.
30:25
If there's something that needs to be ruined, leave it up to a
30:28
really angry, egotistical guy and he'll figure out a way to do that.
30:31
That's the big challenge.
30:33
And
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Robyn Ivy: of two, like now grown men, I also think, boy, without
30:37
the men, like men get a bad rap.
30:38
And I'm always like, I always joke that I'd be the first one Vijo,
30:42
voted off Vagina island because I really stand for men and all that.
30:47
Jerremy: yeah, of course.
30:48
Robyn Ivy: that presence, without that, it would, we would just all be different.
30:52
So
30:52
Jerremy: That's the balance, right?
30:54
That
30:54
Robyn Ivy: important parts of this.
30:56
Jerremy: agreed.
30:56
Agreed.
30:57
And that's the balance.
30:57
The balance is the recognition that we have to be in both places.
31:01
We have to know how to do both things.
31:03
We have to know how to live in the both worlds.
31:04
Men need to learn how to heal deeply and to pull their ego
31:08
out and to pull it into light.
31:11
And also be a protector.
31:13
A protector of women, a protector of children, a protector of
31:16
themselves, a protector of their kingdom, the castle, and they have
31:19
to be totally okay to become more.
31:23
Grace to become more kind.
31:24
And I think having the balance and having the blend between all of those
31:28
things we're talking about, which is really the energetics of spirituality,
31:32
of beingness, of who individuals are.
31:34
And you start blending all of that and putting it into money,
31:37
into investing, into politics.
31:40
That is my four corners of like, I can talk about this stuff all day and
31:44
it jazzes me up and it lights me up.
31:45
'cause I know that there are solutions in this box.
31:49
Robyn Ivy: Yeah, I think that I've noticed with women, a pa the
31:51
pattern of there's a pattern of not feeling safe and not feeling worthy.
31:55
And those two things then ripple out into, that becomes almost like a filter
31:59
through which everything it's not safe to put themselves out there in the world.
32:02
It's not safe to start the business.
32:04
It's not safe to ask for that amount of money.
32:06
then on the guy side, I see a lot of, not enoughness, like it's, I'm not enough yet,
32:11
so I can't, I don't feel good enough about myself, so I can't start the thing, do
32:14
the thing, be humble or be compassionate or open, It's such a shame to me because
32:20
if we could see ourselves from that position, reassure that in each other,
32:25
then just keep going out and doing the thing, our contributions and our, what we
32:29
could create here altogether, the problems we can overcome are it's mind blowing.
32:34
Jerremy: Yeah.
32:35
What problem would you like to overcome?
32:36
If you had to pick one that you could just solve tomorrow, what would it be?
32:40
Robyn Ivy: Hunger.
32:40
Hunger to me, hunger.
32:42
Because if you're hungry, I don't care what plans you have,
32:45
I don't care what, I don't care.
32:47
Everything else, if you're hungry, it's over.
32:50
Not doing anything if you're
32:51
So I don't, yeah, I just, I can't fathom for me how it's 20, 25 and five
32:56
decades later people are still hungry.
32:58
To me, this was a problem that should have been solved by the time I was like
33:02
12 years old or long before I got here.
33:04
So the fact that people are still hungry, the fact that we could have this
33:07
many billionaires and hungry people.
33:10
Something is glitchy in the matrix still
33:13
Jerremy: Y yes.
33:13
And not only billionaires.
33:15
So we have this many obese people in the us
33:18
Robyn Ivy: correct?
33:19
Jerremy: So someone's eating a lot of food.
33:20
Robyn Ivy: have GLP if we have GLP ones and hungry people.
33:24
It's astounding.
33:26
Jerremy: Yes.
33:27
Agreed.
33:27
Like there, like to, to that aspect.
33:30
Like what, how are we getting at this incorrect?
33:36
Robyn Ivy: And I also I looked around my house a couple months ago and I
33:38
thought, wow, this is interesting that you can be overwhelmed.
33:41
I could be overwhelmed by the amount of stuff I have to the point that I'm like,
33:44
I gotta get rid of some of this stuff.
33:46
It's this is a lot.
33:47
And then simultaneously have any sense of lack in my life.
33:50
Like how interesting.
33:52
Jerremy: Yeah.
33:52
Robyn Ivy: things can sit there together.
33:54
Jerremy: Yep.
33:54
Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
33:55
Jerremy: I love that.
33:55
Robyn Ivy: But hunger, to me, it's always hunger.
33:57
Jerremy: Okay.
33:58
Robyn Ivy: else, don't know.
33:59
If you're hungry and you're cold, don't have somewhere to stay.
34:03
But you can always you can find somewhere to stay.
34:05
If you can't eat, if you have nothing to eat, you're, what are you figuring out?
34:08
How about you?
34:10
Jerremy: Love that.
34:11
I think my main, I believe my main focus is going to be to radically change the
34:17
educational system in the US because
34:20
Robyn Ivy: system?
34:22
Jerremy: Come on Robin, let's go.
34:25
Be careful.
34:25
You're gonna enter my best friend status real quick.
34:28
Robyn Ivy: That's
34:28
Yeah.
34:29
Get
34:29
Jerremy: I agree.
34:30
It's
34:30
Robyn Ivy: friends.
34:31
I can come rummage through your cabinets.
34:32
If I need a
34:33
Way,
34:33
Jerremy: cool.
34:34
Robyn Ivy: in the acquaintance level,
34:35
Jerremy: Yeah.
34:35
I want snacks.
34:36
I'm with you.
34:37
I'm with you.
34:38
Robyn Ivy: Get one on the Uber Eats, and we're both grabbing the same, yeah.
34:41
Jerremy: It.
34:41
Love it.
34:41
Yeah.
34:42
I think the, our educational system is killing us.
34:46
And it's making us scared to put kids in school.
34:50
It's making our kids less smart.
34:53
It is making our generation and our populace fatter and larger
34:59
and bigger and more complacent and more docile and less creative.
35:03
And it's helping us memorize things that we never use.
35:09
And I believe that if we sit down and we help our children and we
35:13
help our teachers, and we help our staff become extremely creative
35:16
thinkers, I believe that a lot of our problems do slowly dissipate.
35:21
Just as an example, you mentioned hunger.
35:24
Obviously that is a component of many, many, many things.
35:28
But if you have enough smart people in schools, in high schools, middle
35:34
schools, colleges, universities sit down and go, alright, let's creatively
35:38
think of these solutions and let's really, really figure out how.
35:42
This one company, this one product, this one creation can solve that issue.
35:47
And we are rewarded as a community globally, but also also here in the US for
35:54
just extremely creative thinking often.
35:57
I think that's something that really does make a huge, massive impact.
36:01
And we're not, we're not doing that in school, right?
36:04
Our schools are,
36:05
Robyn Ivy: think it's very difficult to get rid of everything that
36:07
fosters creativity in a system, and then expect the people to
36:11
Side with their most creative thinking.
36:13
Jerremy: Yeah,
36:13
Robyn Ivy: I am like if we don't support creativity anywhere, and if we
36:16
don't cr if we don't support feedback and unique perspective and socra
36:22
conversations, opportunity for people to have various opinions and debate.
36:27
Gosh, gosh.
36:28
Debate, did I say debate in
36:30
Jerremy: Oh, my good.
36:31
Oh.
36:32
Robyn Ivy: my no Lord.
36:34
Yeah.
36:34
What a dangerous concept.
36:36
Jerremy: Agreed.
36:37
Robyn Ivy: How are we gonna do anything creatively?
36:39
Jerremy: Yes.
36:40
Yeah, I'm with you.
36:41
And so I, I can see it extremely clearly is we do make huge changes
36:47
there where we actually have that well, 'cause AI is coming, it's coming.
36:51
And if we don't sit down as a nation and go, alright, AI overlords,
36:56
'cause those, those are the people that Dave battles with every day.
36:59
He battles with the AI overlords.
37:01
If we don't, if we don't start getting ready and prepared as a, as a nation
37:08
and also a civilization for what is coming down the pike in 15 to 30
37:13
years, people aren't gonna have they're not gonna be aware to how to have
37:17
jobs, to how to, to how to create.
37:19
They're gonna be extremely complacent.
37:21
And Wally, the kids show the movie that is wildly accurate and hopefully
37:28
never going to happen, but probably is a 200 year dystopian from now.
37:33
That's gonna start happening if we don't get extremely creative on making changes.
37:36
Now
37:38
Robyn Ivy: and Idiocracy is sad that we just watched that a couple
37:40
weeks ago together in Miami, and I said, because I, he's have you
37:43
Jerremy: it's a documentary.
37:44
Robyn Ivy: no, I, what we said.
37:46
I was like, in what universe is this actually more like how it is?
37:50
And then it is.
37:52
It just is.
37:53
It is so much more like how it is, which is terrifying.
37:56
Jerremy: Terrifying.
37:57
Terrifying.
37:59
Crocs is a publicly traded company now, and that's what they're all the
38:03
people wearing Crocs in the whole movie, and they were doing it as a joke.
38:07
Robyn Ivy: on Friday night and I turned to my friend and I was like, I don't
38:10
know I don't know what drug this is.
38:12
They're on, I don't, I cannot identify whatever substance has run through
38:16
this place that we didn't take.
38:18
Everybody was at a frequency I had.
38:21
I'm like, I don't know.
38:22
I know most of them, and I don't know what this is, but people
38:25
were in some kind of weird of half Kensington, like they were just kinda
38:30
There.
38:30
I'm like, this is not normal, but this is very much like that movie.
38:34
Jerremy: Yeah.
38:35
Yeah.
38:36
Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
38:36
Jerremy: what was your,
38:37
Robyn Ivy: feel like it's a rally cry for people who are excited
38:39
and still wanna make a difference.
38:41
Like, how about now
38:42
Jerremy: yes, agreed.
38:43
Dave, what was your,
38:45
Robyn Ivy: the team now.
38:46
Jerremy: the big one that stood out to you in Idiocracy?
38:48
Dave,
38:49
was it the pro wrestling president?
38:52
Dave: The every piece of that thing is really, this was 20 years ago
38:55
and here we are living this thing.
38:57
So it's there.
39:00
It's bonkers,
39:01
Jerremy: Yeah.
39:02
Dave: think that this is actually happening.
39:04
Jerremy: Yeah.
39:04
Robyn Ivy: the fact that it was 20 years ago is one thing, but the
39:06
fact that it was intended to be the most absurd thing on that would ever
39:10
potentially, ever and ever happen
39:13
Dave: Yeah.
39:13
Robyn Ivy: it, and it's now more not this so alarming.
39:17
Jerremy: Dave, chances we could get the creator writers on the show.
39:21
Just have a conversation with him.
39:22
Robyn Ivy: Dax Shepherd,
39:23
Dave: And
39:24
Robyn Ivy: probably.
39:25
Dave: Mac no, it's
39:26
Jerremy: It is possible.
39:27
I think it's possible
39:28
Dave: It's a mike
39:28
Robyn Ivy: Oh, Mike Judge.
39:29
Got it.
39:29
Jerremy: Do
39:30
Dave: I'll reach out.
39:31
Robyn Ivy: Get on that, Dave.
39:32
Jerremy: Get on it, Dave.
39:33
Dave: more people say yes than not, so Yeah.
39:35
Jerremy: Yeah,
39:36
Robyn Ivy: know.
39:37
Jerremy: that's right.
39:38
Robyn Ivy: Jerremy, what do, when you look at the landscape of your
39:40
life in this financial container, what do people, are people get wrong?
39:46
Like, where's the paradigm shift in that?
39:48
If people are, where are they so close, but getting it all wrong.
39:54
Jerremy: That is a very beautiful question.
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Most individuals, in my opinion, have this extremely u extremely bad belief about
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the co, the combination of time and money.
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And so here's what I mean by that.
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They feel like there is so much time they can do it later.
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And that is true.
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So that that's a truth.
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And since there is so much time and you can do it later, if you start doing
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it now, the later becomes amazing and says you can start whatever you want.
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You can start at 67, you can start at 72, you can start at 84.
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The earlier you start though, the better and easier it becomes.
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That is the truth.
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Most people that I connect with, work with discuss, they go, uh, you
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know, one day, one day, one day.
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And every time I go through my calendar, I never see, one day I see a Monday, right?
40:59
Monday's on the calendar, some days not on the calendar, but
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some Sunday's on the calendar.
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It's like we gotta start doing this as soon as humanly possible.
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'cause you said it, money loves speed.
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Quick, fast example.
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Tons of people will say.
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This is a pretty, pretty open statement.
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I'm not blowing your minds here.
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Apple's done innovating.
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They've created the exact same thing for years, and that company's gonna slowly die
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well for the last two and a half years.
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So if you go back to just July, 2023, I'm just gonna pick a really random
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time that's, relatively relevant.
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July of 2023 on Apple, and until today's price over the last two and a half
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years, apple's up 47% just in value.
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47%. They make $90 million net an hour.
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It's a lot of money.
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It's a lot of money.
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Google is up 85% since April of this year.
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Robyn Ivy: Wow.
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Jerremy: there, there are some companies that we,
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Robyn Ivy: unbelievable because of the messaging that AI's taking over
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and nobody's using Google, right?
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Jerremy: I know precisely, yeah.
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That, that messaging is just wrong.
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Robyn Ivy: how it appears.
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Yeah.
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How.
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Jerremy: It's almost never how it appears.
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Yeah.
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So it's just a really wild and beautiful belief and awareness process
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that when we start looking at and navigating the process, like we need
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to start investing into assets now because you do have enough money.
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If you have a dollar, you have enough money to start investing into assets.
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And if you start now, as in today, buying $1 worth of something and
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you can obviously exponentially it to however much you need to
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or want to, or have ability to.
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But we, we just hired an incredible woman to work with myself and my wife
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and my family to help us out with our time and to give us more leverage.
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And she, uh, her name is Nelly.
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She's really, really sweet.
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And I'm getting her, she just really just started working with us like days ago,
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and I've already given her a Robinhood account and I'm already teaching her
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how to invest into stocks because I know her background and her background is
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an amazing background, but it's one of, I need to work really, really hard for
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money and I need to spend six hours a week and order to provide for my family.
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And although that is a truth, right?
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We can and we should.
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And there, that's an a possibility.
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What if instead of working 60 hours, we hired her for 40 hours and is paying
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her the exact same amount she was making when she was making 60 hours.
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And then I'm also gonna teach her how to make more money by investing and
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taking some of the capital that we pay her and taking a portion of that.
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Obviously we all have bills in life.
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You take a portion of that and you put it into the Googles, the NVIDIAs, the apples,
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the Teslas of the world, and guess what?
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The value of your value, your net worth is going to increase because
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those companies are gonna increase because you're betting on America.
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And I think that's really what people don't understand is when you're
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buying assets you're betting on the largest, most powerful, most profitable
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country that in the existence.
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And if you think that's gonna go away that's fine.
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You're entitled to that belief.
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I'm just telling you that you're mathematically wrong.
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It's not gonna go away.
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It's gonna get bigger.
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Robyn Ivy: it.
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So putting your money somewhere else is like a way to make sure you're right,
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which is a terrible idea if winning that it means you don't have a country.
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Jerremy: Oh my goodness.
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The quote of the date.
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Yeah, that's it.
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What do you like if you're like, no, I don't wanna do that, so I'm just gonna
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put all my money into like this bunker and guns because the zombies are coming.
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Robyn Ivy: Okay.
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Jerremy: So that means you're gonna be fighting zombies in 20 years.
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Like, that sucks.
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Like, that's not a great world.
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Let's, let's prevent that from happening.
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Let's prevent the zombies from attacking.
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Robyn Ivy: direct it towards everybody's wellbeing.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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There you go.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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all right, so three things that came up when you were saying that
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is I could feel my own oh, Lord how am I gonna learn everything?
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I would have to learn about this, because this feels like, I don't
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know what it's taken to learn about parenting 24 years deep.
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My friend is a lot, and I'm like,
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: Is it, do I have to that my inner Sisyphus is like, I'm gonna have
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to grab another boulder and hit the road.
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So how can you pacify that fear in me in a
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Jerremy: yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: I am?
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Jerremy: The same way my dad did.
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Where it is as easy as you want it to be that's what investing is.
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You don't have to learn everything to know something.
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You kinda like anything in life.
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I asked you, how can I connect with my dad who's no longer with us?
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There's probably a easier way, a quicker way that you could guide me
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into, and then there's a probably a more in depth way where if I
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needed to go all the way into it.
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So that's, that's with Juujitsu.
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All right.
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I'm a practitioner, juujitsu.
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I love doing it.
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It's an incredible martial art.
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Uh, I'm nowhere close to good.
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Yeah.
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I'm nowhere close to good.
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I'm terrible.
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I'm a 16 year white belt, but I love it.
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It's awesome.
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It's really fun.
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And just like there's levels, there's learning, chess, picket,
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pick anything in life, pickleball, tennis, football, basketball, soccer.
45:47
You can become an incredibly, incredibly proficient at it
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and become a professional, like an immaculate professional.
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Or you can become someone who's aware and.
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Robyn Ivy: But the difference is that with money, if you get it wrong,
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people have a whole lot of ugh, about getting that wrong in a way.
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You don't care if you get the arm bar wrong in Jiujitsu, I think.
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Jerremy: Yeah they, they can, and I think 'cause wrong is back to the
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whole time thing, it's gonna they'll be right if there's enough time.
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Generally I would say 97%
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Robyn Ivy: Ah,
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Jerremy: the time they will be correct over a long enough time horizon.
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And so when you're putting too short of a time horizon, when I first
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started trading and doing the stuff in the stock market and day trading,
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my family literally lit the same week.
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We're like, alright.
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So are you a billionaire yet?
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Like a bi a, a billionaire?
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No, I have started learning finance a week ago.
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And yeah.
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Yeah, it's just, it's just this fascinating asset and it's
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just fascinating realization.
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I do think that really ultimately for all of us having the ability
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for it to make things simple, to make it easy, for me to you, Robin
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would be Yes, baby girl, something.
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Go for it.
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Yeah, of course.
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To make it easy would be invest into companies that you know, that you
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use, that you understand, and it could be any, any amount of money
47:04
that, that's really the quick answer.
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And if you do it repeatedly, it will grow.
47:08
So every time you spend a Netflix account, put the same amount of
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money into the Netflix stock.
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Anytime you buy an Apple iPhone.
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Robyn Ivy: a great idea.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Buy some Apple stock.
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Anytime you pull up Google to search, Google, put some money into Google stock.
47:24
Every time you get into it, every time you make a car payment, like
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most people make a car payment to whoever a finance company, Ford,
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gm, Tesla, somebody, Honda Toyota.
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Put a little bit of money into that stock.
47:35
If you use the realization that we can all be owners rather than just
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consumers, your money will grow.
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So that's a very, very powerful statement, but that's a statement of 100% accuracy.
47:48
You're betting on America, America's gonna win by the companies that you
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use, interact with on a daily basis, and your money will grow over time.
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Robyn Ivy: I love that idea, and I really appreciate you framing that in
47:58
a way that's very pedestrian relatable.
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Jerremy: Yeah, sure.
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Robyn Ivy: makes sense.
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It makes sense why we would do that.
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I can hear the kind of flags of social responsibility of where
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do I wanna be investing in that?
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And at the same time, I think if you're using them, then you
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might wanna be checking in with yourself about that anyway.
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If you don't want to be investing in Apple, then why
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do you have an Apple iPhone?
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Jerremy: Come on, champion.
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Robyn Ivy: want to be
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In
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Jerremy: oh.
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Robyn Ivy: then maybe you don't want to put gas in your car.
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Like I, you're accountable to your money.
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You're accountable to your decisions.
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This is life folks.
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Jerremy: Yes.
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And yes.
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Drink Starbucks or someone else.
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It's up to you.
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You're all making decisions.
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We're all making choices.
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And exactly what you said, we make the social determination and what's
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responsible and what is valuable for us.
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As an example, I do not personally invest into oil companies.
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Why?
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I just think it's dirty.
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That's all.
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That's it.
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I just, it is physically not clean.
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So if there's someone comes into my house and spills a bunch of oil on
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the floor, I'm gonna notice it, right?
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That's all.
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I just don't think it's super, super clean.
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So I also do invest in renewable energy systems, right?
49:10
So I have large investments into solar, into solar companies,
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into solar technology, because.
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To me in my, I have no clue how Solar Works.
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Couldn't explain it.
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No idea.
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I don't know how my cell phone works really.
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Like I just click a button and it things happen.
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I, how are we not all using the sun?
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I haven't learned that yet.
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I No clue.
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Can't figure it out.
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It's just this free energy source that just hangs out there.
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No one has to pay for.
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We just boop, put on Bang energy.
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It is kind of mind blowing to me that we don't do that.
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And it's not because oil is gonna run out and there's a finite supply and
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there's only a little bit, and that I don't even come from it from that
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perspective, I come from the perspective of there's people that have to work really
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hard and tirelessly to do all of those things that need to be done for oil.
49:55
Where you have this ginormous thing.
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Robyn Ivy: ways.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
49:59
Hello.
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And you could just create solar energy for everyone.
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Go, you, we, Robin, we can go to the corner of, of Utah or Nevada.
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And take out the whole corner of the state and, 500,000 acres in solar field
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and all of America's powered by solar.
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That's all it would take.
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That's a
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Robyn Ivy: you see the level of innovation that they have, but it's, again, it goes
50:21
right back to the willingness to think creatively, to problem solve with a way
50:24
that keeps everybody, it's not a communist idea to consider everybody's wellbeing
50:29
when your amount of land is finite, but it's, it's easy to prepare it that way
50:34
here, but it's a matter of understanding The resources are limited and
50:38
Jerremy: Yeah.
50:38
Robyn Ivy: need is different.
50:40
Like great.
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Use 'em as parking lot cover.
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Why not
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Jerremy: Yes.
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Robyn Ivy: wants their car to be cool anyway.
50:47
Jerremy: Agreed.
50:47
Yep.
50:47
Precisely.
50:48
And I think that those are just, anyway, like that's things for me to
50:53
understand and be aware of is it has nothing to do with certain beliefs.
50:57
It has everything to do with, I want things to be easy,
50:58
fast, efficient, simple.
51:00
And the faster we get there as a society and the more we think about it and the
51:04
more we debate and have open discussions where I can just simply disagree with
51:09
you, like me and Dave don't agree on everything, although we agree on a
51:12
lot of things we can have a beautiful, very easy commonality where it's like,
51:18
oh, cool, man, I think you're wrong.
51:20
And you think I'm wrong.
51:21
And high five, dude, it's love you.
51:22
You're awesome.
51:23
But that's like playing poker or playing chess or playing a sport.
51:27
There will be a loser.
51:29
It's okay.
51:30
It's not, doesn't mean that you're a bad person.
51:32
It means that you played a game over a period of time and someone
51:35
lost because of the result was you lost and someone else won.
51:39
That is all right.
51:40
It's okay for that to happen.
51:42
Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
51:42
I really value multiple perspectives.
51:45
I spent 30 years as a commercial photographer, and the entire career is
51:49
essentially wrapped around the idea that there is no one way to look at anything.
51:53
And in fact, if you're only looking at it one way, you're really
51:56
missing 99% of other possibilities of how to see something.
52:00
it's true about ourselves.
52:01
It's true about what we think is possible with our money.
52:03
If you are also in your fifties, like I learned when I inherited
52:07
some money a handful of years ago, it's like you can start at any time.
52:10
Like you, your own thinking about money or your ability to
52:13
invest is the only limitation.
52:14
Because if you tell yourself that, you're gonna have to pick up the
52:18
Boulder and start going, that's also just a thought you're having.
52:21
It's not necessarily how it has to be.
52:23
That's just one thought you chose to have about what it would be like
52:26
to start getting healthy with money.
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But that
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To change as I'm gonna not have ice cream at 10 o'clock in the morning.
52:33
It's
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Jerremy: Or at night.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
52:35
Or whenever.
52:35
Yeah.
52:36
Or you
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Jerremy: Yeah.
52:37
Robyn Ivy: however.
52:38
Jerremy: Exactly.
52:39
Robyn Ivy: knowing that we're really like a few thoughts away
52:41
from it not being a problem.
52:42
I,
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Jerremy: Yeah.
52:43
Precisely.
52:43
I, I'm gonna openly share this with all of your listeners too.
52:46
The week of like, Christmas week, I'm, I'm, I just eat cookies
52:51
and sugar and just get fat and just do nothing for a long time.
52:55
I like it.
52:56
I enjoy it.
52:57
But again, to the point of, I think it should be absolutely okay where we
53:01
all can just sit down and just relax and have a good time and do our thing.
53:04
But that's balance.
53:05
That's the, you can schedule it.
53:07
That's the creation ahead of time.
53:08
That's the thought process ahead of time.
53:10
That's what all these conversations are almost always gonna keep coming back to
53:13
is clarity of time, clarity of purpose, clarity of intentionality, knowing how
53:18
to sit down, think and grow rich, right?
53:21
The book is not called Work Harder to Make More Money.
53:24
It's called Think and Grow Rich.
53:25
And so we have to be able to use our thoughts and our
53:27
thoughts can become things.
53:28
And if thoughts become things, then our words create our world.
53:32
And that's why I think it's called Universe, right?
53:35
You are the verses that we speak out loud.
53:37
So if you start speaking to yourself, I do love money.
53:39
Money is incredible.
53:40
What an amazing tool that money is for myself and for my family.
53:44
I want to interact with it and grow it and expand it because it's so awesome and it's
53:49
incredible everything that it does for me.
53:51
You start speaking like that and using those words often daily,
53:55
guess what's gonna happen?
53:56
You're gonna start having a better relationship with money
53:58
and your wealth is going to grow.
54:00
Robyn Ivy: And noticing, I mean, no matter what your circumstances are right now,
54:04
noticing the abundance of blessings.
54:06
And I don't mean that in some kind of like hashtag blessed silliness.
54:10
Truly looking around on a cold day and recognizing like, you are lucky
54:13
enough to have a warm place to be.
54:15
You do have someone to call.
54:17
There is something to eat in the fridge.
54:20
There is, we're so resourced in ways that we just don't say thank you enough.
54:25
If any of this were to go, we'd care about it.
54:28
So in the moment that we have it, it's really a practice.
54:30
I think it's a devotional practice to just say, I'm gonna be as
54:34
consistent with my acknowledgement of this as I am of the lack of it.
54:39
You spent all this time being aware of what's not here.
54:41
What about the practice of thank you for what is here.
54:43
You for what is here.
54:45
Jerremy: Yes.
54:45
You appreciate appreciates as Oprah Winfrey said.
54:50
So you don't pray or ask or hope from a place of want of I have less.
54:56
It's not from a place of lack.
54:58
It's from a place of love.
54:59
Thank you for what I have.
55:00
I would love more.
55:02
It's a powerful statement.
55:03
I love what I have.
55:04
It's incredible.
55:04
I want more.
55:05
And it doesn't have to be for you.
55:07
You can have more.
55:08
I want more from my cell phone.
55:10
Robyn Ivy: resourced
55:11
We feel the easier it is to give it away.
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Jerremy: Let's go.
55:14
Robyn Ivy: on what we don't have, we're not gonna be giving that much.
55:17
Jerremy: Yes.
55:18
Yes.
55:18
And that's, I love those conversations because I do get a little slack sometimes
55:23
when I get on stage and I say, you're selfish if you do not make enough money.
55:28
Because who are you really, truly, ultimately providing for?
55:32
If you make $40,000 a year and hey, no hate on it.
55:35
I've, I was there for a long time in my life, right?
55:37
The first 20 years of my life, 19 years of my life, guess who I was helping?
55:43
No one.
55:44
I mean, maybe I would tip a waitress 15%, 10%, but probably not.
55:49
I would find ways to kind of skirt around tips, and I would do things
55:53
that I, I didn't have that much money, so I couldn't circulate it.
55:56
I didn't ever go to
55:57
Charity galas.
55:59
I never donated money ever to anyone for any reason.
56:03
I didn't have any, so it's okay to go.
56:05
I love what I have.
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I love my $48,000 a year.
56:08
This is amazing.
56:09
Thank you.
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God.
56:10
Give me more.
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I know there's some available, I know there's more available.
56:12
Let me figure out how.
56:13
Gimme the insight, gimme the wisdom, gimme the knowledge, the path,
56:15
the opportunities, the blessings.
56:17
Give me more because I know more is available.
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Robyn Ivy: I love it.
56:22
Jerremy: Yeah.
56:23
Robyn Ivy: because otherwise what are we doing?
56:26
Yeah.
56:27
Yeah.
56:27
Cool.
56:28
Jerremy, where can people find out more about you and learn more
56:30
about you and connect with you?
56:33
Jerremy: I have an awesome social media team.
56:36
If anybody connects with me, they could reach out.
56:38
Jerremy Newsome on all platforms.
56:41
My name is built with two Rs, so my dad's name was Jerry
56:46
and stands for Jerry and me.
56:48
Jerremy and for my podcast solving America's Problems Anywhere that you
56:53
listen to podcasts and on all the socials, I would love for people to reach out and
56:58
connect with me on, on that podcast so we can continue grow, growing the platform,
57:03
helping people see, know, and understand how we can all be a part of the solution.
57:07
How education is going to be the root fix for almost everything that we are
57:10
struggling over, and that we worry over.
57:12
Because the more we educate, the more we are aware, the more we are aware,
57:17
the more we can have a an extreme clear path on where to go to how to fix it.
57:22
And we love having guests on the show.
57:25
It was an absolute honor and privilege to meet you, and I am quite confident
57:29
that we'll see each other when I pop up to Rhode Island in a month from now.
57:32
Robyn Ivy: Yeah, I am looking forward to it and I really appreciate the chance
57:34
to guest, host on here and hang out with you guys and share the message.
57:38
I think it's a really beautiful opportunity to speak into wholeness
57:43
because it's not it's no different if it's money or if it's your faith,
57:47
or it's your relationship or your marriage or the way you parent, or
57:50
the way you wanna serve our community.
57:52
If we're not all in this together, then we're really not gonna make this happen.
57:58
Jerremy: That's right.
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Robyn Ivy: Thank you for this.