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Baby Blue, Blue Baby & Hooded Man Rituals: Would YOU Play Dangerous Summoning Games On A 2nd Date? · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  Coming up... This is a horrible game. Why did
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  you guys play this? And then... This is our third
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  time we've ever met each other. We're not done
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  yet! We're not done! Oh my god. So, not to sound
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  like that guy in Saw, but... Do you want to play
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  a game? Um... When you say it in that tone of
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  voice... No. No thank you, I'm good. I've actually
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  never seen Saw because I don't like slasher movies.
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  That's not an answer to my question. Well, I'm
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  going to say yes, I do want to play a game. That's
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  fitting. That's exactly what I expected the outcome
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  to be. Because, you guessed it, we're not talking
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  about any old game today. We are talking about
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  ritual games. You know. Like Bloody Mary. The
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  fun party games that typically kids, you know,
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  play together. The more like dares or challenges,
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  you know, there's a list of steps and required
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  items and you have to do these things in order,
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  follow the rules, or else you'll die. They're
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  harmless games, right? Maybe. Supposedly. Or
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  are they something more... Dangerous. Dun dun
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  dun. Dun dun dun. Ignore that. My voice cracked
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  while trying to do that. I'm going to replay
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  it in 3, 2, 1. Dun dun dun. Welcome to our podcast
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  where we take deep dives looking at various topics
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  through a paranormal lens. So this episode was
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  inspired. like we said in the previous episode,
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  by this amazing film we saw at the Midwest Weird
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  Fest called The Midnight Driver. Go back to our
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  previous episode because eventually in the episode,
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  we do talk about it after 40 minutes of utter
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  nonsense. So give that a listen if you want more
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  about the film. But the film itself was inspired
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  by the very real, allegedly, hooded man ritual.
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  The ritual is called the hooded man. ritual and
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  you know what i gotta do we gotta do it i gotta
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  put my no i'm putting on a hood just for the
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  couple people that watch on youtube they get
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  a real this is this is your incentive to to watch
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  this one on youtube because i have a hood oh
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  my god it's the hooded man but i figured we can
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  not do the ritual but we can go through what
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  this ritual is and kind of use this to like talk
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  about the other types of rituals that are kind
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  of in this camp because i feel like this is a
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  really uh good representation of these type of
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  things but back to the hood and man ritual it
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  says danger level is a two i don't know what
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  what that scale is and and what a two danger
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  means where are you getting that from the paranormal
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  rituals, wiki. You can find all these online.
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  What are the other ratings at? Is it a one through
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  five situation? I don't know. What would Bloody
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  Mary be ranked at? Just for reference. Let's
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  see. Light as a feather, stiff as a board I think
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  is one too. I want to do that one as well. Isn't
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  there one that's like Called the Three Kings
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  or something. Yep, yep. Something like that.
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  Okay, so according to this site, the Bloody Mary
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  ritual, danger level zero. Oh. So just for reference.
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  Okay. Zero danger. So the hooded man is twice.
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  No, zero times two is still zero. Still zero.
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  You know what I mean. It's two levels up. It's
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  two levels up. I get you. And, of course, if
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  you are unaware of what Bloody Mary is, you just
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  stare in a mirror. And you spin chanting Bloody
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  Mary three times. Three times. And then, evidently,
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  Bloody Mary should. With the lights off. Oh,
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  yeah. And then she should appear in the mirror.
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  Yeah, standing behind you. You say it 13 times.
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  13 times? I thought it was just three. I thought
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  it was three, too. According to this, it's 13.
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  Yeah, well, that person's wrong. Maybe that's
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  why everyone does it wrong. Maybe. But also.
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  remember we were talking about um this is a tangent
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  um in typical fashion we're about to talk about
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  the hood of man ritual and we're talking about
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  five million other things first but one of my
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  favorite kind of uh revelations we had on the
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  podcast was i forget what episode it even was
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  we're talking about bloody mary a little bit
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  when it comes to like legends and that kind of
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  stuff i'm thinking about like bloody mary that
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  he said in the mirror yeah the amount of times
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  you know Kids say Bloody Mary. I'm sure you...
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  Brianna, you didn't have a pet rock or imaginary
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  friend, but did you ever do Bloody Mary in the
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  mirror as a kid? No. Most other kids... Angela,
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  did... I almost called you Annabelle. Angela,
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  did you? No. Honestly, I was kind of too scared
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  to ever do it. Yeah, same. I'm like, what happened
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  if it's real? Okay, but that's my point. So,
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  kids, other... You guys both knew Bloody Mary,
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  even if you didn't do it. Kids either do Bloody
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  Mary as a kid, or they're too scared to do Bloody
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  Mary as a kid. I was too scared. Yes. Did you
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  play Bloody Mary as a kid? I did once, nothing
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  happened, so that's my story. Why is no one talking
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  about the Bloody Mary egregore? It's going around,
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  like, it's just interesting to me, this whole
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  talk about, and I just thought of this now, so
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  it's not a really fleshed out or full thought.
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  Well, isn't the difference that people know that
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  Bloody Mary is plainly just a game? They don't,
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  you were too scared to do it. You thought Bloody
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  Mary was real. It's so true. Yeah. Well, I'm
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  just, yeah. How is, you know, is this like the
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  new version of Bloody Mary? Like, when we were
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  kids. and everyone knows about Bloody Mary, is
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  Zozo going viral on Twitter, the new version
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  of it. People either use the Ouija board to contact
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  Zozo, or they're too scared to do so. And kids
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  will tell all these great tales of like, you
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  know, Bloody Mary came to me in the mirror, I
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  saw her, and you know, just hazing type of stuff
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  that kids do to each other, you know. Is this
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  like the adult version of it? And is it that
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  we're now adults? I don't know. It's weird. Because
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  then they say, too, that, like, poltergeists,
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  you know, are often created from children or
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  kids, you know, teenagers, you know, specifically
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  during, like, puberty and that time of their
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  life. So, do you need... When you're a kid, does
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  it not fully... Again, I'm not phrasing this
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  good because it's just coming to my head now,
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  but do you need to be a teenager to then... If
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  teenagers create poltergeists, do you need to
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  become a teenager or an adult to then create
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  egregores? Does it not work as a kid? Good question.
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  That's a good question, yeah. I bet if a bunch
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  of adults got together, this might be fun. A
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  bunch of adults? Oh, but imagine what havoc that
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  would cause. If a bunch of adults got together
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  and fully believed in Bloody Mary and did it
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  and created a real Bloody Mary egregore. then
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  you'd have kids legitimately experiencing it
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  every time they did it yeah imagine that yeah
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  but anyways i i have no update on that bloody
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  mary uh you know kind of tangent but just reminded
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  me of it um getting back to the hooded man ritual
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  though um this one again i have no idea what
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  a two really means just that it's more dangerous
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  than bloody mary but um it requires one to three
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  players So theoretically, we could play it right
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  now. But we won't. I want to. Brianna's just
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  like, no. No, thank you. And I guess this ritual,
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  the player calls an entity to drive them to the
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  other world. Dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun. And
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  all you need is a corded telephone, two black
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  cords that are 50 centimeters long, a watch.
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  a table, a chair. And then, something that was
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  not depicted in the film, get naked. I don't
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  believe that one. I'm sorry. I still don't believe
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  that one. There's no need for that. But whatever.
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  Okay. Well, I assume it's going to explain why.
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  And if they don't... Okay, so in order to play
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  this game, first you must prepare a room. You
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  choose a room in your house to play the ritual.
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  and you just make it as dark and silent as possible.
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  These games love darkness and stillness and silence.
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  Sounds like it, yeah. It is recommended you play
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  at night. First, you go to the room you prepared.
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  You sit down before the telephone and count to
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  13. They also love 13, I guess. With a phone
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  on the cradle, dial the number 20496888. Ty,
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  one of the black cords to the telephone's handset.
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  Handset? I almost said headset. Goes to show
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  how little we know about telephones. Oh yeah,
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  that's a big, okay. We're totally down with the
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  old gear and technology. We know. Did you guys
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  not have corded phones growing up? I did. I did
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  too. I had one until I was like teenager. Yeah.
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  Yeah, then your parents were just new age. New
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  age? All you hippie new age parents with your
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  cellular devices. Well, anyways, goes to show
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  who needs to do research around here. But apparently,
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  you have to dial that number. And then you tie
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  one of your additional cords that you brought
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  to the ritual to the handset. Okay, and then
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  use your cord to lift the handset. And then dial
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  the number 255 -15823. You count to 13. Put that
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  handset down, but do not put it on the cradle.
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  Approach your face to the handset. This is all
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  phrased very weirdly. Approach your face to the
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  handset. And you say, hi, I need a cab. Untie
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  the first cord and replace it with the second
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  one. Go outside. If you see a black cab parked
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  near your house with the lights on, open the
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  door and get inside the cab without verifying
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  it's your driver. That sounds like a good way
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  to get kidnapped. Yeah, yeah. No wonder this
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  is a danger level 2. My god, you're getting in
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  a random person's car. Sounds like it should
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  be more of a 4 .5. Though, if I were to do this
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  game and I were to go outside and see a cab,
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  I would be very concerned. Oh, I'd be terrified.
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  I'd be so fucking terrified. There are no cabs
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  here. Yeah, talk about someone who hasn't seen
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  a handset corded phone in many years. I haven't
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  seen a cab, I don't think ever. I've literally
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  never seen a cab. Who are we kidding? This is
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  so old school. There's cabs. Not in Michigan.
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  Maybe not where you are, Brianna, but, like,
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  we're links, Ben. There's cabs here. I've seen
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  them around. Are there? I lived in East Lansing
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  for six years and I never saw a cab. No. You
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  haven't? No. Oh, well, I've seen them. I'm not,
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  like, a hitchhiker. I just read the next sentence
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  of the ritual. It says, it says, if you see a
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  black cab, park... near your house with the lights
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  on, open the door and get inside. Is this when
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  you get naked? No. It says, if the door is locked,
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  do not get in. It is probably a regular car.
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  Trying to break in to a regular car will get
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  you in trouble. With the weird writing of this,
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  approach your head to the headset. And all the
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  weird little sentences. I'm having trouble taking
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  this seriously at this point. But anyways, after
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  you enter the real ghost car. The unlocked car.
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  The unlocked car that definitely has a ghost
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  driving it. You are supposed to lock the doors
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  and make sure to be in a comfortable position.
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  You will fall asleep in approximately 70 seconds.
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  I don't like that. I don't like that. No thanks.
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  If you check below the driver's seat, you will
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  find an iron hook and a dirty spoon. After you
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  wake up, if you're playing with friends, everyone
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  will wake up. At the same time, I guess. Look
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  at your watch. If your watch doesn't read 3 .30
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  a .m., get out of the vehicle, go inside the
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  room you used to call a cab, and destroy the
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  two cords with fire. If your watch does read
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  3 .30, you will fall asleep again in 70 seconds.
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  You will wake up again, but this time the car
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  will be moving, and you will see a hooded man
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  on the driver's seat, driving the cab in a dark
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  place. If you want to go back, say to the driver,
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  I have reached my destination, and he will...
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  Apparently obliged. After you say that, I've
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  reached my destination, you will wake up where
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  you initially called the driver from, and then
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  you're supposed to dial the number 200082 in
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  the telephone and say thank you for the ride,
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  and destroy the cord with fire. The hooded man
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  is an interdimensional agent who wears black
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  vests with hoods, and some people believe that
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  looking at his face leads to death. But, they
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  want to tell you, there's no evidence that it
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  is actually caused a death. That we know of.
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  Don't even know of. Anyone who's looked in his
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  face has died and never was here to tell the
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  story. I guess so. But that's a hooded man ritual.
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  Interesting. It's actually kind of creepy. Kind
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  of. It seems so complicated though. That's how
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  all these are. You need to do this and dial this
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  exact number and then 70 seconds later the seconds
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  matter, the times matter. Each number you dial
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  is different than the last one so you have to
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  have it all written down. If we do this and an
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  actual black car shows up we cannot get in it.
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  But I'd be very scared. fascinated still terrified
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  but curious we should like knock on the door
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  and peer in but not get in the car no you need
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  to play by the rules nothing will happen unless
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  you do each step exactly how it says okay no
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  i'm saying okay well what happened if the cars
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  come car comes up obviously we're not going to
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  get in the car so what would happen once we don't
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  listen the steps from there i don't want to i
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  don't want to assume that you, Angela Wingard,
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  is going to say, we did 10 % of the ritual. Let's
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  just stop there. Yeah, that's what we're going
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  to do. Are you really going to just get in the
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  car because you're afraid of not finishing a
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  fucking ritual? Well, but no, my point being
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  is, and also, also, all you're doing at that
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  point is just summoning a cab to your house.
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  And that's cool enough. You can just call a cab.
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  Yeah. You can do that directly from your phone.
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  You can do it from a mobile phone. Move a Java.
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  You don't need cords. You don't need a handset.
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  You don't need to be 1997. Do you think there's
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  a modern version of this where we can just do
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  it on our cell phone? It's called Uber. No, I'm
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  talking... No. Okay, what would happen if we
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  dialed a number that... Of the numbers they gave
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  us. Probably someone's actual phone number and
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  they're getting like these random phone calls
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  all the time. They're like, why the hell am I
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  getting these phone calls? Imagine how weird
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  that would be. You just get these random phone
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  calls and then you answer and be like, you just
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  hear, I need a ride. And it just hangs up or
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  whatever you have to say. Okay, so I'm going
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  to call the number that's the one you're supposed
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  to say, I need a cab. No. No, do it, actually.
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  Please, actually do it. Welcome to Verizon Wireless.
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  Welcome to Verizon. So it's not an actual phone
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  number. That's disappointing. Is there enough
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  numbers for there to be an area code? Let's see.
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  That's true. Is there an area code? Ooh, they're
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  one number short. That might be why. These aren't
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  real numbers, you guys. Okay, that explains it.
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  So this whole ritual was bullshit. But if you
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  do the ritual and someone actually picks up,
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  then you know it's real. It's a ghost. I'm good.
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  I am Gucci. Should this whole episode just be
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  us calling a number until some ghost picks up?
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  Well, I'm just disappointed. I wish it was a
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  real number. It can't be a phone number if it's
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  one number short. You know how there's that thing
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  where you're supposed to put one before your
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  phone number? Oh, that's true. Then do that one.
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  Do that. Put the one in front of it. No, don't
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  actually, because then you're actually going
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  to dial somebody, and it's going to be awkward.
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  The number you have dialed is not in service.
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  Please check the number and try again. 2 -0 -4.
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  Well, that's a new one. That is new. That number's
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  been discontinued. Disconnected. Maybe too many
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  prank calls. Maybe. Honestly, you never know.
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  Yeah, because, you know, there's a bunch of the
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  numbers at different stages of the ritual, and
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  that's that later stage number. The one where
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  you're supposed to call and thank them for the
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  ride? Mm -hmm. Yeah. Yeah, someone's got prank
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  called too many times. That was fun. That's,
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  I guess, half attempting the ritual. Now, there
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  is a ritual similar to the Hooded Man ritual
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  that Angela and I actually did try on our second
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  date. Really? Yes. What is it called? In this
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  book called Dangerous Games to Play in the Dark.
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  And it's by Lucia Peters. Highly recommend this
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  book for a fun read. That means I got this book
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  on our second date. I mean, within the third
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  date, we're doing a ritual in your bathroom.
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  I highly recommend as a test of if you're compatible
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  with a person to do a ritual with them where
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  you drown a baby in a toilet. That's what we
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  did. What? It's called Blue Baby Baby Blue. It's
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  pretty fun, actually. Nothing happened, but it
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  was fun. Well, let's talk about this ritual.
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  Yes, please. I need to actually hear about it.
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  Page 50 of Dangerous Games to Play in the Dark.
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  Get this book, everyone, and read along with
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  us. The objective is to summon an angry ghost
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  baby. No additional warnings, but the reward,
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  if you complete it, is bragging rights. And content
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  for a podcast. Similar to Bloody Mary, the point
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  of Blue Baby is simple. It's a challenge to prove
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  your bravery. However, while Blue Baby's origins
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  are a little more difficult to trace than Bloody
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  Mary's, they may have come from the same fears
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  that Bloody Mary taps into. In the latter, the
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  ghost is sometimes a mother who has lost her
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  child. I didn't know about that lore about Bloody
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  Mary. While in the former, it's a child who has
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  lost its mother. Oh, okay. So, how to play. First,
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  you find a partner, because it's a two -person
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  game. The game must be played in a bathroom that
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  is equipped with both a mirror and a door that
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  locks. You will not need any other supplies.
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  That's it. You just need a bathroom with a mirror
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  and a lock on the door. No, and a toilet. You
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  have to... and a toilet. That's implied when
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  it says bathroom. You never know. There could
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  be, like... That's a washroom. That's a washroom.
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  Okay, that's fair. Doesn't bathroom apply? Okay,
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  that's fair. How do I know? All my bathrooms
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  are toilets. When night has fallen, you enter
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  the bathroom with your partner. Turn off the
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  lights and lock the door. fog up the mirror in
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  whatever way you wish breathing on it running
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  the shower so it's steam coats the glass etc
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  we we did the shower method because blowing on
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  a mirror in the dark for an hour did not sound
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  fun and then you write in the steam you know
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  condensation on the mirror you write the words
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  blue baby with your finger And then you were
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  supposed to hold your arms as if you were cradling
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  a baby, and I remember Angela had to show me
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  what that was, like how to cradle a baby with
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  my arms. But it says here, too, for other idiots,
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  don't forget to support the baby's head. Babies'
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  necks aren't strong enough to hold their heads
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  up on their own. So it's giving you tips, you
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  know, you're supposed to cradle this imaginary
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  baby. Yeah, okay. If I didn't tell Ben how to
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  hold the baby, and... I don't even hold babies
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  often. It's been a hot second. Okay. Ben probably
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  would just be holding it like a fucking football.
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  I'm going to be honest. I'm like, no, Ben. Put
• 23:35
  your arms together. I still don't necessarily
• 23:37
  know the difference between a football and a
• 23:40
  baby besides one has a head. They're about the
• 23:45
  same size anyway. Maybe a newborn, but yeah.
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  Yeah. Okay, keep going. I want to hear more.
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  So, as you're cradling this imaginary football,
• 23:58
  I mean baby, you may begin to feel your arms
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  growing heavy as if a weight has been placed
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  into your care. Don't be alarmed. That's an indication
• 24:09
  that the game is working. Keep supporting the
• 24:12
  weight. The baby needs your help. And then you
• 24:16
  carefully pass. the weight that you begin to
• 24:19
  feel to your partner. Do not drop the ghost baby.
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  After holding onto the weight for a brief time,
• 24:27
  your partner should then pass it back to you.
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  So it's like hot potato with the ghost baby.
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  Be careful. Be gentle. The baby is very young,
• 24:37
  after all. You may continue passing the weight
• 24:41
  back and forth for as long as you like, but again,
• 24:44
  you cannot, under any circumstances, drop. The
• 24:48
  ghost baby. With each drop, you will find yourself
• 24:53
  on the receiving end of a small but vicious scratch.
• 24:57
  Keep track of the number of times you drop it.
• 24:59
  You only have three chances before your luck
• 25:02
  runs out and you die. So if you drop the baby,
• 25:05
  you get scratched like a tally to three, then
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  you die. I thought this was a low -risk ritual.
• 25:12
  I guess not! Maybe because it's not automatic
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  death. You get warnings. That's true. It's not
• 25:22
  like an instant death. Okay. When you are ready
• 25:28
  to end the game, have the player holding the
• 25:31
  weight go to the mirror and carefully erase the
• 25:33
  words from the surface. Do not drop the weight
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  while performing this action. If done correctly,
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  you will feel the weight slowly lift from your
• 25:40
  arms. When it's gone, you may unlock the door
• 25:43
  and exit the bathroom, but if you drop the baby
• 25:45
  three times before completing the game, run,
• 25:48
  you have no chances left. The baby's mother is
• 25:51
  coming for you. If you're supposedly holding
• 25:54
  the ghost baby with both arms, how are you supposed
• 25:59
  to remove the words off the mirror? That must
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  be the hardest part. A little baby like this?
• 26:07
  Yeah, yeah. You have one arm and you just go...
• 26:10
  I've seen people do that. Or hold the baby and
• 26:17
  push it to the mirror and have them wipe it off.
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  Yeah. Child abuse. Okay. Because I was wondering,
• 26:29
  why did we flush it down the toilet? Where did
• 26:31
  that come from? So I'm reading on and it says,
• 26:33
  a one -player version of the game may also be
• 26:37
  played... By making the following adjustments.
• 26:39
  So I think it didn't work for us. So we tried
• 26:41
  each doing the one player version. I think so.
• 26:45
  That would make sense. Yeah. In addition to having
• 26:49
  a mirror and a lockable door. The bathroom used
• 26:51
  to play the one player version. Must also have
• 26:54
  a functional toilet. You enter the bathroom alone.
• 26:57
  Turn out the lights and lock the door. Instead
• 27:00
  of writing on a bathroom mirror, you rock your
• 27:02
  arms back and forth and chant the phrase, blue
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  baby, baby blue, 13 times like Bloody Mary. That
• 27:08
  sounds more familiar with what we did. You will
• 27:11
  feel the weight appear after you do the Bloody
• 27:14
  Mary version of it. And as you feel the weight
• 27:20
  intensify, now you will also feel scratching
• 27:25
  and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Be
• 27:28
  careful when the scratching begins. It means
• 27:30
  the baby does not wish to be held any longer.
• 27:32
  Do not hold the baby for too long, or else you'll
• 27:36
  feel the wrath of its mother. When you feel the
• 27:39
  first scratch, quickly hold your arms over the
• 27:42
  toilet and release the weight they hold. Flush
• 27:45
  the toilet. So essentially in this version, in
• 27:51
  the one -player version, you just stand there
• 27:54
  rocking. cradling an imaginary baby until you
• 27:57
  feel the weight of a baby and you chant you chant
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  13 times blue baby baby blue blue baby baby blue
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  and then you feel the weight of a baby and you
• 28:08
  keep rocking it but then you feel scratching
• 28:11
  and as soon as you feel the first scratch you
• 28:13
  gotta quickly dispose of the baby by flushing
• 28:15
  it down the toilet otherwise the demon mother
• 28:20
  of the ghost baby will kill you This is a horrible
• 28:24
  game. Why did you guys play this? Keep in mind,
• 28:29
  this is our third time we've ever met each other.
• 28:31
  We're not done yet. We're not done. There's two
• 28:34
  more instructions. Oh my god. How can it get
• 28:37
  worse? After you flush the baby down the toilet,
• 28:41
  you're supposed to unlock the door and exit.
• 28:46
  If you're able to, because that means you've
• 28:49
  won. Yes. If you're unable to unlock the door
• 28:52
  after doing that, if the door doesn't unlock,
• 28:56
  that means you've lost the game. And remember,
• 29:02
  there's no fury like the fury of an angry parent.
• 29:07
  You get no prize for winning. But do not lose.
• 29:14
  The gift of winning is just... Bragging rights.
• 29:21
  No, it's just being alive. It said bragging rights.
• 29:24
  You get bragging rights. Who's bragging this
• 29:27
  to anybody? Nobody. This is not a game you should
• 29:29
  brag about. No, you're going to look crazy. I'm
• 29:33
  bragging about it right now. I wouldn't say we're
• 29:36
  bragging about it, but we're just talking about
• 29:38
  it. I mean, did you guys feel anything? Absolutely
• 29:42
  nothing. No, no, no, but we didn't die. We won.
• 29:47
  But that also means you didn't do it successfully.
• 29:51
  Yeah, that is true. That is true. That is true.
• 29:56
  I guess I'm not bragging about playing it. I'm
• 29:59
  bragging about incorrectly playing it. Hey, Ben.
• 30:05
  Okay. Can you look that one up and see what the
• 30:08
  danger level for that is? That's got to be on
• 30:11
  that website. I looked it up and you know what
• 30:14
  AI told me? Oh, God. It said, Baby blue, blue
• 30:17
  baby refers to a TikTok ghost legend where chanting
• 30:20
  in a dark bathroom is said to produce a ghostly
• 30:22
  baby. It is commonly confused with the real blue
• 30:25
  baby syndrome, a real medical condition caused
• 30:29
  by low blood oxygen. No one is mixing that up.
• 30:32
  Nobody's mixing that up. Now it says, for more
• 30:37
  information, Dr. Helen Tosig developed treatments
• 30:41
  for this condition in the 1940s. Please ensure
• 30:46
  you are distinguishing between the spooky interest
• 30:49
  trend and the serious medical condition. I feel
• 30:57
  like nobody's... Well, you know what? I was going
• 31:00
  to say, I feel like nobody's Googling, why is
• 31:02
  my baby blue? And getting those two things confused.
• 31:07
  But also at the same time, we do live in that
• 31:11
  world. I feel like someone must have, because
• 31:14
  where is AI getting this information that gets
• 31:18
  confused, you know? Yeah, exactly. Like, it must
• 31:22
  happen somewhere. Or someone. God, okay. It is
• 31:30
  not actually on the Paranormal Rituals wiki.
• 31:33
  Interesting. But it is on the generic wiki how.
• 31:41
  Sounds like you need to add to the wiki page
• 31:45
  a new entry. I feel like that's something you
• 31:49
  can do. And it has these amazing graphics, like
• 31:55
  it's a normal wikiHow article. Yeah, you should
• 31:58
  have showed Ben that wiki article when you're
• 32:02
  trying to explain to him how to hold a baby.
• 32:06
  Gosh. I'm bad. Gotta love wikiHow. I love this.
• 32:17
  Step forward says flush the baby down the toilet
• 32:19
  and leave the bathroom. Oh, this has a new twist
• 32:26
  to it. It says if you make it out of the bathroom
• 32:28
  you won. If you're too slow to leave the bathroom,
• 32:31
  a hideous woman will appear and yell at you to
• 32:34
  give back the baby. That sounds terrifying. So
• 32:39
  in this version, there's a speed component. You
• 32:42
  have to quickly unlock the door because if you're
• 32:44
  too slow, a hideous, ugly woman will yell at
• 32:47
  you through the mirror. Yeah, we definitely didn't
• 32:49
  experience that. We didn't experience that. Not
• 32:54
  at all. I love how there's different versions
• 32:56
  of it. Much like we were saying with Bloody Mary,
• 32:58
  how like chanting three times, 13 times. That's
• 33:00
  common with folklore. These stories take on a
• 33:03
  life of their own. At least with Bloody Mary.
• 33:07
  we proved and discussed that there is real fear
• 33:13
  surrounding doing that as kids. I don't know
• 33:16
  so much about flushing a baby down the toilet
• 33:18
  thing, but the Hooded Man ritual, too. There's
• 33:22
  a whole film created loosely based on it. Still,
• 33:25
  it did not talk about why you need to be naked,
• 33:27
  though. Did you notice that? They didn't say
• 33:29
  anything. I still, like we've talked about many
• 33:33
  times with rituals, it all has to do with intent,
• 33:37
  I feel like. I mean, if you take it seriously,
• 33:41
  it's going to be as serious as you make it. If
• 33:44
  you're doing it as a joke, like... That means
• 33:47
  when we do it, we have to take it seriously as
• 33:50
  if it's going to actually happen. Does the intention
• 33:53
  of the person that creates the ritual matter
• 33:56
  if you create it as a meme or as... you know,
• 34:00
  a joke. Does it still have effect? I mean, I
• 34:04
  think it's the same thing as, like, in my brain,
• 34:11
  I'm comparing, like, the act of doing a ritual,
• 34:16
  like, the intent that you put into it. is like
• 34:19
  what makes it real it's the same thing as like
• 34:22
  an egregore you could make up this random thing
• 34:24
  but if as many if so many people believe in it
• 34:27
  it becomes real like it all has to do with intent
• 34:31
  so it doesn't matter if it's made as a joke if
• 34:36
  enough people believe in it then something's
• 34:40
  gonna happen all right stay with me all right
• 34:43
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