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S2 E6: Reviewing "Skeleton Crew" Episodes 1 & 2 (SPOILERS) · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello there. It's most things Kenobi where we
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  always have the high ground. Hey everyone, Leanne here.
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  Before we get started with the episode, I just wanted to make a
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  quick note for this episode. Lauren was on location, we'll
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  say, and was in a hotel room where she decided to record with
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  me while she was away. Thank you Lauren, but we
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  realized in post production that the fan that she was sitting
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  next to the air system made a pretty prominent background hum
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  throughout this entire episode, so please forgive us.
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  We didn't realize until post production again that there was
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  the fan noise, so we weren't able to edit it out completely,
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  but we did do our best to try and minimize it.
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  And thank you again for being patient with us.
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  Enjoy the episode. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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  episode of Most Things Kenobi, a podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and
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  all things Star Wars. I'm your host, Lauren.
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  And I'm your host, Leanne, and. This week we are going to talk
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  about Skeleton Crew, the new Star Wars show.
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  We sure are. And I have to tell you, Leanne,
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  I think we're going to have opposite opinions.
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  Are you kidding? No.
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  Are you kidding? Are you?
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  Are you kidding? Though I'm not kidding.
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  No, I'm not kidding. Wow.
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  OK, this will be, this will be good because you you got a
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  preview of what I thought. Yeah, I don't have a preview of
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  what you thought, so this should be interesting.
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  OK. Yeah, all.
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  Right. We're very really on opposite
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  sides of. Well, we're we're, we're giving
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  the listeners something brand new.
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  I think in the Kenobi Series A few times you and I had
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  different opinions, but yeah. So we've watched episodes one
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  and two. Let's let's tell the the the
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  family out there. We have watched episode 1 and 2.
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  If you have not, stop right now. This will be full of spoilers.
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  Yes, yeah. This is your final warning.
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  Turn back now turn back. Now, OK, let's go.
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  OK, initial thoughts. It was way better production
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  quality than most of the other stuff they've put out.
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  I will give it that. I will give it that.
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  Yeah, it was beautifully shot and very well edited.
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  Way better editing and cinematography than Mandalorian.
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  I'm sorry, hate me if you want to, but.
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  No, no, no, no. Even better than like Ahsoka,
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  you can tell when they film on the volume and when they don't.
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  It is drastically different. So that right away stood out to
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  me. It was very visionary, you know,
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  I could see what they were shooting for.
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  Yes, yeah, They had an obvious idea in mind what they were
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  going for and I think they executed it.
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  Obviously, in my opinion, it seems like Spielberg esque mid
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  century planet Earth. We'll say yeah, cozy, rural,
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  something or other, you know, feel.
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  Yes. Totally got the Spielberg sense.
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  Yes. Of it all, yeah.
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  That is precisely why I hated it.
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  You cannot copy Spielberg without coming across like a tin
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  can version of Spielberg. And I hated it.
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  It was not original. Don't RIP off Spielberg.
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  It's Spielberg for a reason. I don't have to say that, but
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  they accomplished what they were going for 'cause they were very
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  purposefully going for that. Yes, it did have a sense that it
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  was like an homage to that. And I have a really unpopular
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  take. I don't like Spielberg movies,
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  which is like a sin when you come from.
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  But there's different eras. There's different eras.
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  Are you talking like there's a specific era or just in general,
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  'cause I don't, I didn't know that about you.
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  OK. All right, fair.
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  I love Indiana Jones, I love Back to the Future, but he
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  produced that he didn't direct that, correct?
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  I I like, I like Jurassic Park. It's fun.
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  Isn't that a Spielberg? The original 1?
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  If he didn't direct it, he'd produce it again.
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  I'm gonna have to like this because I don't.
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  So this show feels a lot to me like The Goonies.
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  Yes. Yes, but I hate The Goonies.
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  I hate it. I can't bear it.
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  Well, the. Goonies, I felt like.
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  This was. Way more fun and palatable and
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  less annoying to me than the Goonies because it was like, it
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  was like Spielberg but done really well.
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  And I know that's like such. No one is going to agree with
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  me. And there's a few people I know
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  on the planet who agree with me, and we never speak of it in
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  public because it's really unpopular to say that you don't
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  like Spielberg movies. But I like this better than The
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  Goonies. OK, don't get mad.
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  Totally fair, totally fair. Just just for the record,
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  Jurassic Park, the first one was directed by Spielberg.
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  Just. OK, yeah, that's what I thought.
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  I had Michael Crichton in my mind because I actually read
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  Jurassic Park before it came out and I was in 4th grade at the
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  time. I was a far advanced reader.
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  Holy crap. For my for my time.
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  So Michael Crichton is the first thing that pops into my brain
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  when I think Jurassic Park. Anyway.
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  Yeah, I feel like. So Goonies, Yeah, you mentioned
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  Goonies. Yeah, Goonies and ET, it has
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  that feel to it. I know you hate ET.
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  Everyone knows my stance. I have a personal, I have a
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  personal odd personal thing with ET.
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  So we'll just that will shelve that.
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  Breeze Past that, it's an. Outlier, yes, yeah.
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  So like all, a lot of his movies are incredibly progressive with
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  action. They changed the way Action's
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  filmed, but it's like literally the last Indiana Jones movie was
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  one car chased down a narrow St. after another.
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  It was like 15 in a row and there wasn't as much plot.
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  And I feel like this has the plot, the feel, the like the
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  intrigue that Spielberg like it's Spielberg aesthetic.
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  I think the story so far has me more interested in general.
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  Maybe because it's a Star Wars movie or show, so yeah.
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  Of course, yeah. I think it's there's a lot less
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  screaming than is in like The Goonies.
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  That's, I feel like that's a product of the 80s.
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  I feel like a lot of screaming took place in 80s movies. 80s
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  even if it's even trickling into the 90s but like an odd amount
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  of screaming in the movies. But that's what Goonies is
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  actually known for. It's become a meme of the
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  Goonies. Yes, it's true.
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  Now I'm a Sean Astin lover and that's like little baby Sean
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  Astin, so I can't hate on him but.
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  God, I forgot he's in that. He's a young, tiny thing.
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  He's a baby. There's a lot of young people
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  like isn't now this has become an episode about The Goonies.
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  I figured you and I would have the same like nostalgic feel to
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  this 'cause that's obviously what they were going for.
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  So I mean. Yes, yeah.
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  I didn't know you didn't like The Goonies.
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  I like the Goonies, but it had it's from a time and a place it
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  is. That's where it.
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  Is and I grew up watching Stand by me instead of the Goonies, so
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  like I I prefer Stand by Me, which is the other movie that
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  the God. What is that actor's name?
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  The kid with the glasses. I can't.
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  I don't know. Yeah, he's in both movies, I
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  believe. And so.
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  I can't. I'm not placing.
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  I can't think. I'm terrible with names.
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  Anyways, it's been. It's been a long day, I can't
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  remember anything, so I like how it looks like the Northwest.
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  Oh you got that? Were you annoyed that they
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  didn't immediately say what fucking planet it was?
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  I get so hyper fixated. I'm like what planet is this?
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  What planet is this? Does somebody say what the
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  planet is? Do we know what planet this is?
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  Like what is this? Yeah, well, I think that's all
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  part of the the intrigue, because at first I was like, oh,
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  it's just a New Republic. Like it's part of the New
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  Republic. And then as you go on, you
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  didn't finish Episode 2. Right.
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  We'll, we'll get to that. But did you get to the part
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  where they explained the planet? I heard the name of it.
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  I don't even remember. You don't.
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  I don't even know. Tell me.
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  Remember. OK.
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  Remind me? So the whole thing is that it's
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  a hidden planet of mythology and no one has heard of it.
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  Oh, I did not get to that board. Nope.
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  So the kids are trying to tell people like, where we live,
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  please help us get home. And they're like, that's not a
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  real place. Like that's from storybooks?
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  I didn't get to that point. Treasure Island.
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  Because it is, yes. Because it's a pirate.
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  It's Pirates. And.
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  OK if that tree pirate from the Mandalorian comes back.
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  I'm gonna get real mad. 'Cause I fucking hated that
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  thing 'cause already some of the pirates from that show are in
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  this show and I am like, tread carefully guys, 'cause I, I
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  don't like it, but I I do love Peter Pan and this like when
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  they they take off and they're going to they're now in outer
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  space and the kid, what is his name?
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  I'm I'm really bad with all the the characters names the main.
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  Character the the one who wants to who like initially found the
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  quote Jedi Temple. Whim, right?
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  Whim. On a whim?
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  On a whim? Yeah, exactly.
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  So he's like looking through the captain's, he finds the
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  captain's quarters and it's shaped like a pirate ship
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  window, you know, like the Bay window and obviously the pirate
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  hat and everything. And the droid's name is Smee.
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  I think that's really a fun nod. And if they keep playing into
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  that, I will enjoy it 'cause I love Peter Pan.
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  I see I did not make that connection.
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  Yeah, well did you get to the part where they say the droids
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  name? Yeah, you said SME or SM33 SM.
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  33 yeah. And I, I also said Smee, but I
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  didn't make any connection other than like, oh, that's
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  convenient. Well, and I, I love Nick Frost
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  and he voices me I so I, I'm pleased by that.
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  I was pleased by that as well, although I I have reservations
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  about the Droid itself, but I feel like it's enough.
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  I feel like this entire show is a knock off, but I feel like the
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  Droid is a knock off of K2. It's like a more abrasive, less
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  funny, less natural K2 and I I can't quite tell what kind of
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  Droid it is. I at least not initially I was
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  like, is that one of those battle ones that always had the
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  electric like the the the shocking sticks?
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  Yeah, the staff. Is that what it?
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  Is Yeah, Shocking sticks. Who am I?
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  Whatever. You know the Staffs that
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  electrocute people there. Yeah, like with everything else,
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  I'll reserve full of judgment till the end.
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  But I, I see what they're trying to do and so far I like it, but
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  it's walking a line where like if it becomes too corny, I'm
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  really not going to like it. But I, I see why you're saying
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  it's a knock off, because I mean, the whole opening sequence
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  is a complete redo of the opening sequence of A New Hope,
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  right? Correct.
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  Even the way they film, you know, the people holding the
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  blasters. And like janky.
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  Look of determination. 'Cause I thought every costume
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  that walked out of there was terrible.
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  I thought every. Especially that werewolf Like
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  please please be. Free.
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  That's from A New Hope. He's in the cantina well.
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  It needs to stay in A New Hope. That was what I was like at
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  first. I thought it was a rat, the like
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  outline of it. I was like, is that a giant rat
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  with blasters? And it's.
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  Like, oh, it's the. Werewolf from the fucking
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  cantina. So like whim to me.
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  Like Whim is Luke, Fern is Han. Yeah, mixed with a little Leia.
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  Yeah, and then in episode 2 they have a cantina scene, so it's
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  just like there's. I wonder if they're going to
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  follow the pattern of A New Hope, like all the way through.
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  They're basically recreate. It's like the most meta Star
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  Wars ever. It's like Star Wars referencing
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  Star Wars within the Star Wars, but the kids in there aren't
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  sure if it's real or not or like it's, it's like a bit of a mind.
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  Fuck. To try and keep track of it all.
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  I don't know. And if they're, if they're not
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  part of the New Republic, if they're a mythological planet,
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  how do they know all the stories of the Jedi?
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  But, but, but that woman, the Fern's mother, is a part of the
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  New Republic, a representative of some sort.
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  I. Thought but now, now I think she
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  might just be part of their local government.
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  It's like I'm not sure. It will reveal itself with time,
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  I suppose, but. I didn't make it through episode
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  2, so I don't know a lot of what beyond the point where they said
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  that they they need to find a space station or some shit.
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  I was like, OK, I'm gonna, I'm done.
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  I hate this show. I absolutely hate every single
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  second of this show. It might be like you are to
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  Mandalorian. This is me to this show is so
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  bad. That's the that that is how I
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  feel about the panda, Laura. And yes, you're right.
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  I hate this show and I will not watch another episode.
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  I'm sorry. I I usually don't have really
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  strong feelings, but there isn't an original concept in this show
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  and I can't get over that. I just can't get over that.
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  I can't do it. I can't do it.
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  I can't stand kids. Like, what's this?
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  Where are we? What is over here?
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  Oh, no, dad. Like I can't.
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  I can't fucking do it. I can't do it.
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  I'm sorry. I'm that person.
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  So we will not be reviewing any more of this show moving
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  forward. I listen, it's going to take an
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  act of God to get me to get through the rest of this.
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  If we, if we commit, if you want to do this for the folks out
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  there, maybe that'll be our question this week.
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  Do you want us to continue reviewing this show?
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  I will do it for the people, but I will not enjoy it.
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  Or maybe I will. Or maybe I will.
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  Maybe. I mean, yeah.
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  I mean, like I said, it remains to be seen.
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  I was. I have a lot of problems with
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  the show. Tell me like, go ahead.
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  Like what else? What was bothering you so much
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  about? It now I'm just going to, I'm
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  just going to preface this with, I try to go into this shit with
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  an open mind, right? Yeah, I had like no
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  expectations. Zero.
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  I had no, we had a, we had a Zoom call recently with our
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  patrons and one of our patrons said, I hope it's like, if it
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  isn't like Stranger Things, then I'm out.
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  I remember her saying that, right?
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  And I was like, oh, is it going to be like, I never read a
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  single review? I don't have, I never had any
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  clue. I didn't know Jude Law was
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  involved. No fucking clue.
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  So maybe that was part of my problem because I was hit right
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  away with a nostalgic youthful. It's just not my material.
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  And I, and I understand it's for a lot of people, they're going
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  to love it for the elements that I that annoy me about it.
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  Yeah. When I hate to sound like I'm
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  not gatekeeping, I'm not anything.
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  But when I think of Star Wars, this is not it.
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  It's like, OK, it's just not for me.
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  Like I'm not going to go on this like giant brigade of like thou
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  shall not like this show. I just understand that it's not
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  really for me it I need something deeper I guess.
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  Yeah. Maybe it's just the point I'm in
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  in my life, like maybe I need to reconnect because I do like the
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  goodies I like. What's the one with all those
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  kids on the boat? What is that?
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  They're on an island. Is it Treasure Island?
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  I like, I have all these ideas of these flickers of these old
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  movies that, that I do like. I, I just think I'm, it's
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  disconnecting it for me because it's Star Wars.
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  If it was, if it was anything other than Star Wars, I might be
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  into it. But I think there's like there's
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  a maturity level that I'm, I'm seeking that I'm not getting in
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  this obviously, because that's not what they're going for.
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  Yeah. I did like the individual
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  characters. I I really do like the kids.
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  I think their acting is good. I think it's believable.
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  I think they're obviously having fun with it and they should.
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  I like where they're setting up these kids.
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  Like we've got the starry eyed dreamer, we've got the hard ass.
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  Like she's straight A, but she wants to be in the, you know,
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  she just wants the wind in her hair.
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  We got the little tech person, we got the bumbling sidekick.
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  We, you know, we've got all the elements of a charming show.
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  It's just not for me. And also, is that supposed to be
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  Max Rebo's offspring or what are we doing here?
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  Is it like not an offspring of Max Rebo like trademark Max
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  Rebo? But is that his breed, his
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  species? Yeah.
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  Good. Question.
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  We're, we're just going, we're just going like for straight
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  elephants or, or are we gonna cause like, you know, Star Wars,
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  the, the aliens are kind of alien.
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  I did have to laugh though. And she?
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  Said like, can't you plug his trunk because the kid was
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  talking too much? And then Neil was like, ha, ha,
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  I don't talk through my trunk. Totally cute.
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  That's adorable. His character stood out to me
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  because he has like that cute family these.
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  Little overalls, so comb over. Are you going to fucking sit
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  here and tell me that a baby elephant's wearing human
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  sneakers? What are we doing?
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  I I know it's me. There was a werewolf with a
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  pistol, so I guess you know our reality.
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  What? Kind of footwear did he have on
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  I just. I don't know.
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  I don't think they showed it. Seems to me that an elephant
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  would not need sneakers, high tops or otherwise.
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  He had high top Jordans on. I mean Chewbacca and they wore a
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  bandolier for God's sakes. He didn't even have shoes.
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  That's all he needed to be as fabulous as he was.
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  And this kids walk around with fucking sneakers on anyway.
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  I just, I just, it's the, IT was like overdone.
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  I feel like the kid missed the bus.
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  The bus wasn't creative enough for me.
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  I'm like, I could catch this thing in downtown Seattle if I
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  wanted to. Like literally it's the same
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  thing as the link, you know, for those who know.
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  And then and then he goes on like a speeder, which is
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  obviously like a bike, right? It's this 80s bananas seat.
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  It even hit like tassels on that.
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  I can't. I can't.
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  It's not. It's too pedestrian.
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  Now, I know we sat here and made fun of the fact that some people
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  sat here and made fun of the fact that there were bolts and
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  bricks in Star Wars. I draw the line.
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  But like, I don't want to go into that terror.
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  I don't want to be that person or that kind of fan.
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  So I'm very disappointed in myself.
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  It's not connected with you. That's OK.
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  Like, I, I think that's going to start happening more and more
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  with Star Wars as they continue to pull different kinds of ideas
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  and stories out. I mean, Jude Law said when they
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  first started talking about this show that it is about kids, but
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  the, the peril is real. Like the danger is real.
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  And I, I see that and I feel like they're getting that
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  balance pretty good. It's they're they're really, I
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  could see in the editing in the opening sequence, the way they
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  were like hacking people with machetes and then they would
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  like cut on that action. So they were able to like
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  literally hack people with machetes without showing it.
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  But you get the idea. Granted, I mean, like, I don't
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  care about pirates. Like, yeah, Firefly is all about
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  space pirates. That's what I'm going to watch
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  if I want to watch space pirates, right?
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  It's way scarier in Firefly with the Reavers.
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  I do wonder if I need to revisit this at a different time when my
• 22:19
  brain like you know how you listen to a song, you don't like
• 22:22
  it, you listen to it again in a totally different state of mind
• 22:25
  and it sounds totally different. That may be the case with me in
• 22:28
  this show. Remember, I didn't, I did.
• 22:30
  I wasn't feeling the 1st 2 episodes of Andor, but that's
• 22:33
  because I. You hated them and you actually
• 22:36
  you hated the 1st 2 episodes of Acolyte.
• 22:42
  Oh acolyte shit do I hate every 1st 2 episodes.
• 22:46
  Do you remember? You were like, you were like, I
• 22:49
  hate this and I was like Leanne, just get like, if you can get
• 22:52
  past like get past this point, you probably will like it.
• 22:55
  You're like, all right, I'll calm down.
• 22:57
  You actually texted that to. Me, I don't even remember.
• 23:01
  Oh my God, I'm a repeat offender.
• 23:04
  Listen, here's what I'll do. Here's my promise to you and the
• 23:10
  the everybody who's listening. I will rewatch episode 2 and get
• 23:16
  myself ready for episode 3 and then we can try again.
• 23:19
  OK, OK. I think you're right though that
• 23:23
  it's Treasure Island. Is it Treasure Island?
• 23:25
  Jude Law. Is kind of is he gonna be like
• 23:27
  Long John Silver right 'cause isn't he like?
• 23:30
  Maybe that? Is 'cause I haven't, I haven't
• 23:32
  read the book so forgive me, but isn't Long John Silver like, not
• 23:36
  completely trustworthy like a kind of like a?
• 23:39
  None of them are right cuz. They're fucking pirates, right?
• 23:44
  Well, Johnny Depp, he's the most trustworthy pirate I'm.
• 23:50
  Just kidding, that doesn't say much does.
• 23:53
  It it's just cuz he walks like Keith Richards like I would
• 23:57
  trust him before anyone else just because he walks crazy.
• 24:01
  Oh my God, it's so good though. It's such a good walk.
• 24:05
  It, it really is. It's fantastic.
• 24:08
  I think maybe if you because like I had no expectation and I
• 24:14
  I also do not particularly love stuff made for kids so I was
• 24:18
  going into this with a big grain of salt or sand or whatever the
• 24:22
  fuck. All of the above.
• 24:24
  Yeah, so. And at first I was like, OK,
• 24:30
  this is very pedestrian. It's very our world, if it it's
• 24:35
  like if our world met Star Wars. Yeah, I hate that.
• 24:38
  And then I, I wasn't loving it at first.
• 24:41
  And then I kind of realized that like, that kid is all of us,
• 24:46
  like he's always flipping back to look at stories about the
• 24:49
  Jedi just like we do. And it's.
• 24:52
  Like if we think of it more as like a metaverse where because
• 24:58
  they're actually they are as a planet, isolated out of all the
• 25:02
  other stories that we're familiar with.
• 25:04
  So they're almost like a self referential like in the story,
• 25:08
  but without being in the story. So they're this weird little
• 25:12
  isolated planet. When you put it like that,
• 25:16
  that's the depth I'm looking for actually.
• 25:20
  When I, I think we might get there, you know, I think the
• 25:24
  show has the potential for more depth.
• 25:27
  Right now, they're just trying to establish who the characters
• 25:30
  are, their relationships with each other.
• 25:33
  And if that isn't connecting with people right away, you
• 25:36
  might lose them really fast. That's why I, I mean, and I know
• 25:39
  people hated Andor, but I loved Andor because they like got into
• 25:42
  the story from the first scene. Like it just that was the story
• 25:48
  started. We also had some background,
• 25:50
  though. We we were coming.
• 25:52
  That's true, Assuming the bulk of the fans who were watching
• 25:55
  had some understanding of Rogue One.
• 25:58
  A lot didn't, and that's cool. But.
• 26:02
  The rotten tomato score for this.
• 26:04
  I just looked it up real quick. It's as high.
• 26:07
  I think it's the highest initial 2 episodes aside from Andor.
• 26:13
  That blows my fucking mind. Really.
• 26:18
  I don't. I have seen, first of all, no
• 26:22
  spoilers. It's not like the other show
• 26:24
  where as soon as an episode's done, the Internet, at least for
• 26:27
  me, my social media, was not flooded with spoilers.
• 26:29
  Oh yeah. But what I've seen from people
• 26:31
  has been completely positive from everybody, which is not
• 26:35
  common with Star Wars stuff. How interesting.
• 26:38
  So what is my problem? Well, maybe you just didn't know
• 26:43
  what to expect because you hadn't, like you hadn't exposed
• 26:47
  yourself to more detail about the plot.
• 26:49
  I. Really have a hard time with
• 26:51
  like foolish kid stuff. Like the foolishness of
• 26:54
  children. Yeah, it exasperates me.
• 26:58
  I have to try hard to get into it.
• 27:01
  Yeah. And it's understandable because
• 27:03
  it's not our Forte. We we prefer things that are
• 27:07
  much more layered and and personally like watching people
• 27:14
  grow. Watching it through children's
• 27:17
  eyes is hard for me because. Me too, I don't have.
• 27:20
  Kids. And I mean, I was a kid, but I'm
• 27:26
  less interested like you are than if it was like an adult
• 27:29
  that I could relate to. Dare I say it's too happy.
• 27:36
  I need the pain and the suffering that I've come to
• 27:39
  expect from. I'm sure it's coming.
• 27:41
  Someone's parent is going to die or someone's kid is gonna have a
• 27:46
  hard time. I don't know.
• 27:48
  This is Star Wars. It can't all be utopia.
• 27:52
  The thing that's got got me worried about is they live in
• 27:57
  this utopia. They don't even know how good
• 27:58
  they have it now. They've gone to a pirate depot
• 28:02
  basically and told everybody that their secret planet exists
• 28:06
  'cause they didn't know it was a secret.
• 28:08
  And now their little bubble of utopia is potentially at risk
• 28:13
  now. That's the most realistic thing
• 28:15
  I've heard yet about this show. If that's the case, like if that
• 28:19
  that's where it's going, where the fuck is Hondo?
• 28:22
  We need Hondo. If he were to waltz in, I'd be
• 28:28
  like finally someone who's a mess.
• 28:31
  I. Know well if we think of the
• 28:35
  timeline, Hondo exists right now and Luke are out there.
• 28:39
  That's what I fucking hate about this.
• 28:41
  There are living legends out there and they're just walking
• 28:44
  around in their little speeder bikes worrying about missing the
• 28:47
  bus. There are fucking legends out
• 28:49
  there. Well, that's why I think this is
• 28:52
  going to possibly be interesting because the little boy has the,
• 28:57
  the like this obsession with the Jedi.
• 28:59
  And I looked at some, I tried to like stop and look at some of
• 29:02
  his screens. One of them was a Force temple
• 29:05
  that you see on Mortise. So that was kind of cool.
• 29:09
  That thing that he flips through, does that not remind
• 29:11
  you of that old 80s thing that you'd put up to your eyes and
• 29:14
  click and it had like a paper wheel and.
• 29:18
  Had one of those. What the hell are those called?
• 29:19
  Everyone who knows what I'm talking about no is like it told
• 29:23
  a story. It's not a kaleidoscope, but
• 29:26
  it's an actoscope. I thought it was something scope
• 29:33
  but it was because it was. It was 2 viewfinders and you
• 29:37
  would see the same picture with each eye, but I think they were
• 29:42
  slightly different perspectives so it would give it a sort of a
• 29:45
  3D look stereoscope. Stereoscope is that.
• 29:53
  It that's what it's called. Oh, stereoscope.
• 29:56
  Yeah, well, I mean that there. I'm seeing old timey ones but
• 30:00
  19th. Yeah, they've been around.
• 30:01
  They've been around a long time. Yeah.
• 30:03
  It was how people used to entertain themselves with that
• 30:06
  because television didn't exist. This.
• 30:08
  Is what this is exactly what I was thinking.
• 30:10
  Instead of him putting it up to his eyes, he had it in front of
• 30:13
  them and he'd click it and 1 scene would go to the next go to
• 30:16
  the next so. Yeah, 'cause it like rotates
• 30:19
  them. Yeah, yeah, it was cool.
• 30:20
  I like that, yeah. Yeah, I thought that was cool.
• 30:23
  I was trying to look to see if he's like looking at like the
• 30:26
  Legends of Luke Skywalker or something like that.
• 30:28
  But I, I. Thought for sure I'd see.
• 30:30
  I would see. Wait, so that opening scene
• 30:33
  where the whim and the elephant, did they not say it?
• 30:36
  Was that not like a Vader and Luke scene?
• 30:39
  That's what I thought, but it's like, does he not even know
• 30:42
  about the real Jedi or does he only know about Luke Skywalker?
• 30:46
  Like that's what I'm excited to see if they're going to start
• 30:49
  talking about that. The.
• 30:50
  Thing is, is like, I think that's so cool that like that's
• 30:54
  the shit that kids in the universe, like in the Galaxy
• 30:57
  you're talking about, it's fucking amazing.
• 31:00
  See, that is something I would, I would love to know.
• 31:04
  I hope it's about Luke because he is the the like legend of
• 31:08
  that time period. That's their I mean that whole
• 31:11
  crew, all the ones we know and love, they're the reason why all
• 31:15
  those people are free. Yeah.
• 31:18
  Because of the rebels, All of them.
• 31:19
  Mm. Hmm.
• 31:22
  Yeah exactly. But it makes me wonder like do
• 31:24
  these cause there's even a moment where Wim says this is
• 31:28
  not how the Galaxy was supposed to be because he has a storybook
• 31:31
  version of it and they're behind like they they keep mentioning a
• 31:36
  barrier around their planet. Right.
• 31:39
  That has to be the mystical thing that's keeping them
• 31:42
  invisible, right? Right, right.
• 31:45
  So, like, does that mean if they're being protected, it
• 31:49
  seems, from the truth of the Galaxy, does that mean that they
• 31:52
  don't really know what happened out there?
• 31:55
  That, I don't know, it'd be cool if maybe Jude Law's character
• 31:59
  will teach him right? I'm sure he will, yeah, show
• 32:03
  take all their innocence away. But there's the little crawl,
• 32:07
  like it's actually kind of like the Clone Wars little cookie
• 32:11
  cutter or fortune cookies at the beginning that said after the
• 32:16
  Empire fell. But like, we know that as the
• 32:18
  audience, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the
• 32:21
  characters we're seeing in this story know that.
• 32:24
  Yeah, I don't know if they're told.
• 32:26
  I mean, I don't know. Sky's the limit.
• 32:34
  Yeah, yeah. I, I don't know.
• 32:36
  I think it has a lot of potential.
• 32:39
  I I laughed out loud a couple times and I could because I
• 32:43
  relaxed into the idea that, oh, this is just cute.
• 32:45
  Like it's cute. I'm, I'm not expecting it to get
• 32:49
  super deep, but it would be awesome if it did because kids
• 32:52
  are smart too. So if this is geared towards
• 32:55
  kids, like they deserve a deep story also.
• 32:58
  So I'm hopeful. Let me just put it that way.
• 33:02
  And I I would be interested to watch more.
• 33:04
  I enjoyed myself, I think, because I didn't have really any
• 33:08
  expectation of of liking it at all.
• 33:12
  So I was surprised to find that I did like it better, I guess,
• 33:18
  than some of the stuff that I watched as a kid 'cause I find
• 33:22
  the incessant screaming and lack of story very boring even at a
• 33:26
  young age. So yeah, I'm, I'm excited to see
• 33:32
  where this goes. I but like I said, I have no
• 33:36
  expectations still. Fair.
• 33:42
  If I was a kid I think I would fucking love this though to be
• 33:45
  sure. No brainer.
• 33:46
  I would be looking up to those kids.
• 33:48
  Like, damn, I want to have an yeah.
• 33:49
  I remember having an adventurous spirit and wanting to just go
• 33:52
  outside and like, what was the name of the first episode?
• 33:56
  This could be a great adventure. That was like all I wanted at
• 33:58
  that age, for real. And it was outside.
• 34:01
  I didn't want to stay cooped in. My parents let me go outside and
• 34:05
  play and ride my bike and meet up with my friend down the
• 34:07
  street. And we'd make up fantasy
• 34:10
  storylines of like, solving mysteries because our regular
• 34:13
  life was boring. I get it.
• 34:14
  I totally get it. I don't know why I'm not
• 34:16
  connecting with this show. I got to give it another chance
• 34:19
  I guess. Well, give it another chance,
• 34:22
  but also. Not.
• 34:24
  Everything is, yeah, not everything is going to connect
• 34:26
  with us. And just like you said, like I
• 34:28
  just don't, I don't connect with Mandalorian.
• 34:32
  Yeah. I don't care about the extended
• 34:35
  Mandalorian story that's not connected to like the Jedi part
• 34:39
  of the story. I got you.
• 34:41
  I like Mandalorian. I do.
• 34:44
  I don't know why I don't like this, but that makes for an
• 34:48
  interesting episode, doesn't it? For you and I.
• 34:53
  Yeah, I mean, I I think that I understand your complaints 100%.
• 35:00
  I understand yours for Mandalorian, and I mean, I have
• 35:04
  you and I kind of felt similarly for a lot of Book of Boba Fett.
• 35:08
  I mean. Oh, Star Wars.
• 35:13
  What will we ever do with you or without you, truly?
• 35:20
  Yeah. All right.
• 35:28
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• 35:33
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• 35:38
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• 35:43
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• 35:48
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• 35:51
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• 35:53
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• 35:57
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• 36:00
  cliffhanger. Usually we come into this
• 36:04
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• 36:06
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• 36:09
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• 36:12
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