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Bob Nightengale’s Hot Stove Update: Tigers/Framber aftermath, Zac Gallen market, Inexperienced managers · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Here's Bob Nightingale. Let's talk about it, Bob with us
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  Speaker 1: right now. We appreciate the time. Is always good to
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  Speaker 1: see you, Bob. And you kind of nailed it the
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  Speaker 1: other day when you were talking about the possibility of
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  Speaker 1: the Tigers and from Ribaldez and how that would be
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  Speaker 1: a pretty beautiful marriage for a team that really needs
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  Speaker 1: to push their chips in this year.
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  Speaker 2: So can you elaborate?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm guessing you weren't surprised necessarily to see them
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  Speaker 1: land him, were you?
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  Speaker 3: And I still thought you go to Baltimorials. I think
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  Speaker 3: Doyls really need them. But that was a very smart
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  Speaker 3: and the Tiger's part, like okay, and we know they're
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  Speaker 3: not going to, you know, re sign Trek's Scuball and
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  Speaker 3: now they have the race set up and the things
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  Speaker 3: go aside aways this summer. You know it couldn't move them,
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  Speaker 3: but you know things would have to go really bad.
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  Speaker 3: I love them move I just thought I was being
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  Speaker 3: a aggressive and now they got their guy to replace
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  Speaker 3: Cherk's Scuball for you know, next year.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think about the timing, Bob, where you
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  Speaker 1: have the Trek Schoogle case looming by the time many
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  Speaker 1: people watch this will have an answer on the schoopl case.
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  Speaker 1: So the arbitration hearing had already happened, and now the
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  Speaker 1: decision usually comes about twenty four hours later. So did
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  Speaker 1: you think there was anything to that with them signing
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  Speaker 1: from her after the sides already exchanged their arguments, or
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  Speaker 1: it was completely coincidental that finally on February fourth in
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  Speaker 1: the evening, Framberg gets the offer that he wants.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's just a straight coincidence. I really do.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I think they've been working on this
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  Speaker 3: for a while, very quiet, So okay, we got to
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  Speaker 3: have a got a replace Scooble at some point. So no,
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  Speaker 3: I just think, you know, worse comes to worse. They'rebout
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  Speaker 3: thirteen million dollars, but you know they do have the
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  Speaker 3: race for twenty twenty seven and maybe twenty twenty eight.
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  Speaker 4: Too, So no, I just think as a coincidence, I
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  Speaker 4: really do.
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  Speaker 5: You mentioned the Orioles before is where he thought he
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  Speaker 5: was going to land. Any inclination of if they were
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  Speaker 5: going you know, maybe longer term obviously lower A a V,
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  Speaker 5: or if there was like a level that they were
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  Speaker 5: just like, we're not going over.
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  Speaker 3: I think they were gonna go short term as well.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they did offer five years for Ranger Swarez. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: but I think in this case teams were kind of
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  Speaker 3: back and off a little bit like, Okay, he's thrown
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  Speaker 3: a lot of innings, but what in her nine innings
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  Speaker 3: the last four years?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Do we have some concerns about the arm So I
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  Speaker 3: don't think he was going to get a long term deal.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I think everybody you talk to, you we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: short term.
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  Speaker 4: So even though he wanted, you know, the only.
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  Speaker 3: Sea stock contract seven and you know to ten, it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't gonna.
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  Speaker 5: Happen based on you just said Ranger Suarez too. What
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  Speaker 5: do you think is a bigger miss for the Orioles?
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  Speaker 5: The the fact that oh the crime dog McGriff, what's up?
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  Speaker 5: Guess the biggest the biggest smile?
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  Speaker 7: Tell fred? I said, hello, Fred, I owe you man.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't take care of yet the All Star Game
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  Speaker 4: last year. So once Bob told me he was.
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  Speaker 7: Coming home, like I gotta break in, I got it
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  Speaker 7: because dog man, oh listen, you owe me around to
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  Speaker 7: go forget this. I need to get over to when
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  Speaker 7: I'm in Tampa. I'm gonna need to hit you up
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  Speaker 7: for like om or somewhere nice. So just know that
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  Speaker 7: call is coming.
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  Speaker 6: That's the deal.
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  Speaker 4: I you.
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  Speaker 5: Drop in by Fred McGriff who everybody's listening, everybody's watching obviously,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, yeah yeah, easily the greatest smile on
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  Speaker 5: the game. But anyway, my question was My question was
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  Speaker 5: who do the Orioles miss on bigger not signing Ranger
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  Speaker 5: or not signing Framber, Because in my opinion, I think
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  Speaker 5: there is there is a bigger there's a bigger miss
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  Speaker 5: based on how I think it would fit into their rotation.
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  Speaker 4: I think bigger miss on Framber, I really do.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he was the best free agent starter on
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  Speaker 3: the uh, you know, even more than a Cease. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm stunning it. Get one of those two guys,
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  Speaker 3: and now you got to wonder. I know they've talked
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  Speaker 3: to Zach Gollan. You know, Zach Gowan would make perfect
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  Speaker 3: sense too. He does have a qualifying offer attached to him,
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  Speaker 3: So we'll see if they go that route.
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  Speaker 7: Bob, we talked about it yesterday and tell me that
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  Speaker 7: we were crazy. Where were the Pittsburgh Pirates on this?
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  Speaker 7: Were they close? Because every big free agent we keep hearing, Oh,
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  Speaker 7: they're aggressively pursuing Kyle Schwarber, They're progressively pursuing Trek Schouoble
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  Speaker 7: arbitration wise, they're you know, aggressively pursuing Dylan Sees from
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  Speaker 7: Raveled as Pete Alonso, name every free agent. But they
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  Speaker 7: never get to that point right where they're actually are they.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, they might be in the running, but they've
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  Speaker 7: never gotten to the point where like, hey, we're really
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  Speaker 7: close to getting this guy.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost like together the Tigers went on the radar.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like, you really want a guy, you don't
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  Speaker 3: publicize it.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, you know, they want to tell everybody,
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  Speaker 3: hey we tried, we you know, missed out, we got this,
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  Speaker 3: but you know they end.
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  Speaker 4: Up doing anything with it. You're gonna talk to a couple.
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  Speaker 3: Of gms the in other day and they said, how
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  Speaker 3: about the Pirates. I say, you know, the Pirates always
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  Speaker 3: going to you know, talk about it, but they don't
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 4: They don't take that next step.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it was just more of a well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, pr type thing, Bob.
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  Speaker 5: Have the Tigers over extended themselves? Have they just completely
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  Speaker 5: maxed out? Their budget by signing for Amber Valdez.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they thought, you know what it It's
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  Speaker 3: almost like to Toronto Blue Jays, you see how much
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  Speaker 3: money you're gonna make.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's gonna boost US season ticket sales.
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  Speaker 3: I think now the fans are excited, like, Okay, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we make a lot of noise for the last couple
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  Speaker 3: of years. You know, why not us? Why why can't
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  Speaker 3: we get to the World Series? And I think it's
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  Speaker 3: smart too, like, Okay, you got scoop up for one
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  Speaker 3: more year, let's take advantage of them right now.
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  Speaker 7: Bob by the way, I always want to say this
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  Speaker 7: for all the people on Twitter saying, oh, the Tigers
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  Speaker 7: are not cheap, They're not cheap.
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  Speaker 6: You're right.
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  Speaker 7: The Tigers actually was scooball and now with Fromber bringing
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  Speaker 7: back labor, bringing in Kelly Jensen. If scoobl wins, I
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  Speaker 7: think they'll have a top ten payroll. So good job
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  Speaker 7: on them. But it just maybe the question is is
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  Speaker 7: no one's ever called the Tigers cheap. We're just wanting
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  Speaker 7: them to go out and spend because they have this
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  Speaker 7: window with Schoobl Now with Fromer there, it might extend that.
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  Speaker 7: But they also lose flairty and there's some other things
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  Speaker 7: that can happen. So I think that the Tigers deserve
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  Speaker 7: a ton of credit for going out and doing this,
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  Speaker 7: Like you said, so, I just want to make sure
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  Speaker 7: that you that you can reiterate the fact that the
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  Speaker 7: Tigers aren't cheap. They just struck maybe later than I
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  Speaker 7: think most people wanted them to.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they think at the.
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  Speaker 3: Big pr campaign out event by signing him Earley for
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  Speaker 3: more season ticket sales, they're not cheap. I mean, when
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  Speaker 3: Mike Elitch was the owner, he was spending as much
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  Speaker 3: money as anybody.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he had massive payrolls.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm giving them McGill could bury that money
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  Speaker 3: bringing them PUDs in the likes obviously you had a
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  Speaker 3: star set of rotation. They should have won a roll
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  Speaker 3: Series or two. I mean, that team is that good,
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  Speaker 3: but they were never achieved. It's just that when Mike
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  Speaker 3: Elitz passed away and then the family hasn't spent as
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  Speaker 3: much as Mike did.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Bob, by the way, are the Tigers runing baseball?
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  Speaker 7: Because their disparity now between the Al Central and the
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  Speaker 7: Detroit Tigers is so big. Like the Dodgers, everyone says, Oh,
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  Speaker 7: the Dodgers are running baseball. So the Tigers ruining the
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  Speaker 7: AL Central.
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  Speaker 4: That's the thing. That's all GM's always talked about.
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  Speaker 3: Man, I wish I was in the AL Central, or
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  Speaker 3: I wish I was in NL Central because nobody's spending money.
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  Speaker 4: You're absolutely right, that's the easiest division to bounce back from.
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  Speaker 4: I think even with the.
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  Speaker 3: White Sox, people say, well, white Socks have ways to go,
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  Speaker 3: but hey, you're in the AL Central.
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  Speaker 4: You can turn around a lot quicker.
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  Speaker 6: The what ifs are always happening.
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  Speaker 5: Last year, what if they had gotten Bregman, you know,
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  Speaker 5: would they have beaten the Mariners and gone onto the
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  Speaker 5: World Series? What if the what if the Tigers had
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  Speaker 5: gotten Bregman, would this Valdez thing not have happened and
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  Speaker 5: possibly shortened their window because Scoop will be gone and
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  Speaker 5: then you'd be out of a number one.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they had Bregman, then you still have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the prospects that are ready to play, So
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  Speaker 3: they could have easily turned around and trade for Freddie Peralta.
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  Speaker 3: So I think they still would have done this. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think Bragman would have handicapped him by any means,
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  Speaker 3: and who knows, maybe Bragman would have assist on the
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  Speaker 3: same type of contract where he could have opted out.
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  Speaker 3: I think they would have just turned around and say,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, we'll go trade for a starter because
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  Speaker 3: now we have more trade chips.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Bob, you mentioned him earlier, Zach Allen. Where the
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  Speaker 7: heck is he going to sign? We haven't heard really
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  Speaker 7: anything about Zach Allen other than oh, the Diamondbacks are
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  Speaker 7: now a possibility because of the you know, the pick
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  Speaker 7: that's associated with him and all that stuff. Have we
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  Speaker 7: heard anything? Do we have anything like formal on Zach?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I thought, I hate to bring this up
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  Speaker 7: all but you said he was signing with the Cubs
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  Speaker 7: months ago, which was I know was a mistake, but
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  Speaker 7: I thought it was funny because it got Cubs fans
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  Speaker 7: hopes up and then it broke their hearts. So thank
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  Speaker 7: you for that. But is there any news on Zach Allen?
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  Speaker 4: The three tams to keep hearing are Baltimore Oils.
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  Speaker 3: And this is before the news yesterday. Still the Cubs,
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  Speaker 3: I've talked to him, and then Diamondbacks. I think the
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  Speaker 3: Diamondbacks keep saying they'd have to be creative like we'll
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  Speaker 3: bring them back. But then you know, if he leaves
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  Speaker 3: again as a free agent, you don't get a you know,
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  Speaker 3: a draft pick out of it. So I think they'd
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  Speaker 3: wanted more than one year just to make it worth
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  Speaker 3: for a while. I really believe that all the guys
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  Speaker 3: had the quothying offers.
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  Speaker 4: The clothing offers hurt Zach Gallon the most.
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  Speaker 6: Is there a.
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  Speaker 5: World where teams are looking at Chris Bassett as more
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  Speaker 5: valuable than Zach Gallen because of that qualifying offer?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and in some respects for sure, like Atlanta for instance,
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  Speaker 3: if they had sign a guy with the qualthying offer
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  Speaker 3: like Gallon, they lose the twenty fourth pick in the draft.
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  Speaker 4: They lose a first round draft pick. They're not gonna
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  Speaker 4: do that.
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  Speaker 3: So to your point, yeah, guys like that Gilio and
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  Speaker 3: in him as well. Uh, you got more more value
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  Speaker 3: just because there's no quafing offer.
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  Speaker 4: So, I mean, people love Bassett.
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  Speaker 3: You got to think that Landa is going to sign
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  Speaker 3: one of these guys.
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  Speaker 6: Jeez.
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  Speaker 7: Well, by the way, the qualifying offer, we have a
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  Speaker 7: CBA coming up. The qualifying offer is going to have
• 10:04
  Speaker 7: to be discussed. I know they changed it in the
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  Speaker 7: last one. But if it's hurting guys free agency the
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  Speaker 7: way that you just mentioned about Zach Allen and some
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  Speaker 7: other guys in the past, don't you think that's going
• 10:12
  Speaker 7: to be another thing or gosh, another thing, Bob, that
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  Speaker 7: we're gonna have to talk about. The CPA.
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  Speaker 3: Well, remember it almost went away last time. It was
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  Speaker 3: an exchange for the international draft. If you have the
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  Speaker 3: international draft, I'm gonna do way the qualifying offer that
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: was debated and debated, and finally, you know, the Union
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  Speaker 3: said no, we went to international draft. So MLB says, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: the qualifying offers sticks. So I think that'll be a
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  Speaker 3: big thing for sure. Let's see, we have an international draft,
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  Speaker 3: but the international draft goes away, so the qualifying offers.
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  Speaker 5: Can you rank the teams that have the most heat
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  Speaker 5: on them right now? With the Red Sox kneeding another
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  Speaker 5: infield bat, with the Pirates always just looking for one
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  Speaker 5: more piece, or you know, even the Orioles talking about
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  Speaker 5: starting pitcher who has the most heat on them to
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: make the next move or maybe their last move this offseason.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think you nailed it.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is the Red Sox people still waiting
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  Speaker 3: for the infielder that they they don't have had.
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  Speaker 4: It's nice they have the starting pitching.
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  Speaker 3: It's nice to have the lowest DRA but Texas Rangers
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  Speaker 3: had the lowest ERA last year and where that get them?
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  Speaker 3: So you need some found point that lineup. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think the Red Sox easily have the most heat
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  Speaker 3: on them, maybe followed by the Yankees.
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  Speaker 4: I still think people want the Yankees to do more. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I know the Philly I know the Phillies fans are upset.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they want they don't want to run the.
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  Speaker 4: Same team back.
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  Speaker 3: But they always make some change this year, you know,
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: sometime in spring training or in the trade dead line.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: Hey, Bob, let's get into your column that you wrote
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  Speaker 1: in USA today about the new group of managers. Can
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: you elaborate on some of the background work that you
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: did with very notable managers in this era of very
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  Speaker 1: notable former managers in their comments.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the way you know, ten new managers and uh,
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  Speaker 3: five of them don't have any experience at all.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm just making a big thing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously talking about the NFL, when you oh, for ten
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  Speaker 3: no black men, no black coaches, there's no black managers
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  Speaker 3: either that that came in.
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  Speaker 4: So I think your guys, like you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, earning with you know, he's up there names now
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  Speaker 3: there's only a Benji Gill guys who have paid their dues,
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: you know, like a sticker obviously paid his dues.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, you know we're.
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  Speaker 3: Seeing that and now just your guys are coming up
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  Speaker 3: with absolutely no experience and you know, maybe it could
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  Speaker 3: work because they're not making on their own lineups. Uh,
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: you know, all the front offices now we're dictating moves.
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  Speaker 4: But it's a shame for the guys, you know, to
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  Speaker 4: spend all this.
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  Speaker 3: Time in the minor leagues thinking you're going to get
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  Speaker 3: a shot and you don't.
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  Speaker 7: Well, well, hold on, Bob, before before we get off this, Uh,
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  Speaker 7: do you spend a few years in the minor leagues?
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  Speaker 7: He spent like three years in the minor league. Isn't
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  Speaker 7: that enough time, Bob to be ready to manage ten
• 12:57
  Speaker 7: uh huh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But just at the time, it's like, you know, you see,
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: you're the mayor leadings or.
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  Speaker 3: You're in the coaching major league coaching staff for years,
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  Speaker 3: and now it's like guys you know, you know, aren't
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  Speaker 3: even on a major league coaching staff and uh coming
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  Speaker 3: up and so you know, I think the one part
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: is that you're talking Tussi Viker about it is you
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: know how come teams are so afraid to hire former players.
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: These DrrA players are make the best coaches, and you
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  Speaker 3: know you're not getting that same instruction.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look at all the.
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  Speaker 3: Years we see, you know, look at the base running
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  Speaker 3: blunders we see.
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  Speaker 4: You know, night after night, so a lot of these. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: it's almost like.
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  Speaker 3: You have two strikes against you. If you play the game,
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  Speaker 3: you have experience, you know you're you're.
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: Roll for two.
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  Speaker 7: Well, well you know why bove right threats you know why.
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  Speaker 4: Huh threats or it can't control or what.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say it's because the players might fight
• 13:49
  Speaker 7: back a little bit on some of this stuff, right
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  Speaker 7: if you can. And I don't mean this against Listen,
• 13:52
  Speaker 7: I made a joke about peterra and I didn't mean it.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sure he's going to be a wonderful manager. We've
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  Speaker 7: talked to him. He was great to talk to you, right,
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  Speaker 7: But yes, a lot of the former players make the argument.
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  Speaker 7: And that's why remember the Phillies brought in maddingly because
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  Speaker 7: one of the things was players saying we don't have
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  Speaker 7: anybody that have experienced it. Well, if you don't have
• 14:11
  Speaker 7: people that have experienced being in the box, being on
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  Speaker 7: that mound in the World Series or in playoff, in
• 14:16
  Speaker 7: big situations, it's hard for somebody to communicate that. And
• 14:19
  Speaker 7: I think a former player as a former player, and
• 14:21
  Speaker 7: I don't know this, but they pushed back a little
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  Speaker 7: bit on that and say, oh, who, you've never played,
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  Speaker 7: you don't understand what it's like. Whereas if you hire
• 14:29
  Speaker 7: somebody that hasn't been there and doesn't understand it, Oh, yes,
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  Speaker 7: whatever you want me to do, Yes, sir, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 7: yes sir, And listen, I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
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  Speaker 7: I'm just thinking, in my opinion, that's kind of what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's what hurt Albert Polhols interviewing
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: for the Angels, interviewing for the podres. I think a
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: sense of the interviews, there's gonna have some pushback here,
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: I can control Albert.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: I thought Albert would have been a perfect choice for
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: either spot, you know, Tory Hunter an interview with the
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: Angels and the Twins.
• 14:58
  Speaker 7: Same thing.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: I think the game's got away from that, and you know,
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: I think the game suffers from it. I think it'll
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: be interesting this year with so many new guys and
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: let's see if the experience hurts them or not.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about a third of the league, so it's gonna.
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: Be for as long as they don't pull that, As
• 15:16
  Speaker 7: long as they don't pull the Gabe Kapler and Ozzie
• 15:18
  Speaker 7: Gean where they walk out to the mountain and raise
• 15:20
  Speaker 7: their left hand when they really want the right handed guy.
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: I remember when both those guys did death that one time.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get you know, calling the wrong guy up, and
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I think I have a lot of screwts in the
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Antonio Botello Uh you know, I mean, you know, unfortunately
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: for him or a lot of enemies and a lot
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: of managers are saying win a minute now. This guy
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: has never managed before in his life and professionally never.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: Been to coaching staff.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: He's making three and a half million dollars a year.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Uh that's about double more than any was ever gotten
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: as a first year manager.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: There's only a handful of guys making three and a half.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: So I think a lot of people are gonna say, Okay,
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: let's let's beat the Giants. We're almost mad at him
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: just because how much is getting.
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: Paid and his fault.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: I like that, his fault.
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: No good agent right there.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: He's making three point two I think at Tennessee. So
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: he pretty much.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Said I'm not going I'm not taking a pay cut.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: And then Giants said, okay, you got it.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: And also, I mean, MLB, come on, if you want
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the best talent, if you think there's a manager that's
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: in college ball and should be in the majors, you
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: should be able to bring him in.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Like the pay gap is ridiculous money Yeah, yeah, a.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Few hundred thousand bucks in baseball versus college baseball terms.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: It's hilarious. But Bob good In say yet, we'll follow
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: this storyline. I'm fascinating. We met vy tell A recently
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: in person. I thought he's very impressive. I think he's
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: going to do well. Of course, it depends on the roster.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: But good catching up with you. Thanks to crime dog
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Fred McGriff for saying hello, give him a hug and
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a high five for us.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he wants to wait to buy. He wants to
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: wait to buy.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: That's a perfect way to end this great job. Say
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: we've forgotten common sense, dude, you know what I mean?
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: Common sense? You know.
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: Hey, grab dog listen. You didn't know you don't know
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: anything about hitting. You know, you only you didn't even
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: hit five hundred homers. You know you don't know one
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: thing about hitting.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: Hey, so that's why Hey, they talking about line changle
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: and everything else.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: Man, Hey, hey, common sense right? He finished, Hey, lonchangle
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: was measured after you make contact, right, not before right.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: So now you got all these guys.
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: I laughed, and the battles in nondecked circle they're like,
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: I'm like, okay, okay. Helicopter finished.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Perfectly stated Bob, thank you for the Fred McGriff cameo.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: This was more than we bargained for.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon, okay, All right, back to
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: watch your case open.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, enjoy.
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: It, oh, Bob, stay sober, Bob.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: I haven't had a drinking. I'm about to start perfect
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: and wait. Enjoy your day, Bob, We love it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Bye. Six hundred and forty nine minor league games for
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: AJ Is that true? Is that how many you played?
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: That's a lot, bro, I just gave you the name,
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: I just gave you the numbers. Dude's a grinder Thank you, Scott,
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: Thank you bro.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Former grinder, sorry not former former regular scens win total yes, BEDAMGM, futures,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: white Sox, I'm leading right to you.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: Thanks guys.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: All right, so sixty six and a half.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: Over over If you can hear me, I'm saying over,
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: I can hear you.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: I'm going over.
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: I think they win seventy two to seventy five games
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: this year. Okay, I think they're around ninety losses. Now.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: Can everything break right and they get a little bit better, yes,
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: but I think they're around to seventy win. I think
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: this is way low. Actually, like the one yesterday was
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: way high, this one is way low.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: Do they have enough pitching?
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Do they have enough pitching to make it through one
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: hundred and sixty two games and win and win seventy?
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they do. They're going to be better.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: I think they'll be better than they were last year.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: And last year they won how many games? Sixty one?
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Sixty one?
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah they were, yeah, they got they still had one hundred,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: they had one hundred and one losses. I think I
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: was I was honestly going to take the I was
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: going to take the under, and I'm not going to
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: you know, go by anything anything intelligent. But I just
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: think that where are they going to continue to get
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: their innings from. That's that's my biggest that's my biggest concern.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Are some of these position player prospects. Yeah, I think
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: I really like them, you know, I like, I like
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: to behind a dish and what him and Caro, you
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: know that combination, what that gives them? I don't, you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: the position player corps I really like. I like, I
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: don't really like. I really I like, what is this
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: rotation and bullpen truly going to look like? And are
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: the lack of big additions going to come back and
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: hurt them in July? Where they could start, they could
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: start a big slide of you know, nine to ten
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: wins a month, which would which would drop them below
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: this sixty six.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Number, going under.
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: You haters, Justin and all the White Sox fans. I
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: just want you guys to know that these two are haters.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: You're such a you're such a politician. It's not even city.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: You're a race man, just.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Just a little bit. And hey, the Ale Central.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: As a strong Tigers team, solid Cleveland team that can pitch.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Twins.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be terrible, but they certainly
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: didn't do much and they might sell again fire sale
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: at the trade deadline.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: And the Royals are solid. I think they'll have a
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: solid year.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: I just think the White naturally have to get a
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: little better than what they were. Another year for Shane Smith,
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: another year for Davis Martin right, another year for the
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: bullpen guys. They added Sir Anthony doming Is, Anthony k
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: Is coming over. Another year for their position players, right, Vargas,
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: TiO kiro My Draw, Colson Montgomery more Commi's there. If
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: he hits any, we're close to what he thinks. If
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: he's thirty homers, that's a huge bat. They got rid
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: of the question that was Luis Robert. Is he gonna
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: be able to play? Is he going to get traded?
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: I just think that you know that progression. I think
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: they had fifty nine wins last year. I think they
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: can get ten more. I think sixty. If this number
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: was sixty nine and a half or seventy, it'd be
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: a much harder decision.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Beat you to itocrats, just just beat it by like
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: this much. You were like a hair behind me. But
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to improve wins wise, but they
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: improved by five wins. They're at sixty four wins, six wins,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: sixty five wins, seven wins, sixty six wins. Still the under.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So I'm on a slight under with you. On that, AJ,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I could see them winning load of Mitz.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: Hater's gonna what's that Taylor Swift song? Hater's gonna hate,
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: hate hate.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I like going further back, player is gonna play Hater's
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: gonna hate.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: You can say it with a lot more melody if
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you go further back.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Look that up, kids, AJ, at some point in like
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes are gonna leave us, and then you're not
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: going to be on with us tomorrow.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: So would you like to deliver a famous Super Bowl pick?
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Huh? All right?
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: So I put this together and I was looking on
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: bet MGM. So I'm gonna pull it back up because
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: I forgot I was supposed to my bad producer lady.
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: I forgot to throw this in there. Uh, but my
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: bet slip was but I couldn't find it. So I
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: got to plus one forty and now it went away.
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: It was Jackson Smith and Jigmu to score a touchdown.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: That's a yes, Seahawks to win. Duh, if you haven't
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: seen my gear and everything, Seahawks to win. That gets
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: me to plus one forty. And I'm not even sure
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: who's singing the anthem, but I'm assuming the number is
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: two minutes. Always bet over on the anthem because all
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: these singers love to taste themselves and feel themselves, so
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: they add a couple of minutes a couple of seconds
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: to it. So whatever add that one to it. I
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: don't know what the number is, but throw those things
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: down and you're gonna win.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to keep that collection. We'll keep that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: in mind.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: I was singing national anthem. Charlie Pooth, who is that?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: He's a famous pop singer, say if he's country.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: The country singers, they go fast. They're like, oh can
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: you sing?
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: Even Luke Bryan a couple of years ago, he sang,
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: and he went over, but he.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: Went he added some to it, he started, he added,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: he added to it.
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: I tell you themselves. They start going, M'm tasting nice
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: because I'm singing the anthem at the super Bowl, so
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna add like, I mean, Whitney Houston's was great,
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: but it was like seven minutes long.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: On the topic of tasting yourself. Uh, somebody won a
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: tournament in the past week and actually didn't say anything,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: which is insane.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I had to find this and get tipped off. Eric
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Kratz won an online poker tournament and didn't tell anyone,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: what are you nuts? I guess he did post about
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: it on Twitter. Yes, betam JM Poker posting the former
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: MLB pro Eric Kratz is a champion. It was the
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty k PPO event ten thousand, six
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: hundred and ninety three dollars and a trophy for Bruce Banner.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: There he is. That's him in action. That's what you're
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: playing against. Folks, when you're online and you see Bruce Banner,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: you can't run. You can throw emojis at him in
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the app. I've done that before. But good for you.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So now you have two of those clear trophies.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: Not yet now yet, I haven't got that's the trophy.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: So I have another one.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: I have another one coming that And this was my
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: first victory of twenty twenty six. I had three victories
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: in twenty four and then this one victory. Ben MGM
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: does a great job. I mean they set it up.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: It's very simple. You can do it on your laptop,
• 25:44
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• 25:46
  Speaker 5: up some tournaments that right now they got the grid
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Iron Classic going on. So you win, if you win
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: the tournament, you get a customized jersey if I win.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: If I win, I think it's tonight or tomorrow night, Tonight, tonight,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna get mine, says, that says AJ. Not a grinder,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: So that's what my jersey will say.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you. That's a great dedication right there.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: All right, let's tell.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: Purify six hundred and how many games was it? Six
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: hundred ninety four games in the minor leagues.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: You were in the Ballets of twenty one. You're a
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: second rounder. You were a baroness it was a third rounder.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: And I was in the big leagues. But then I
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: was also back in Triple A the next year, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: then I was back in Double A the year after that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Not a grinder. You were making you were making sixty
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: percent of what you made the year before. So you
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: were in the bushes, which back which which.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: Back then was like one hundred grand was the minimum.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: So I was making nothing, okay, So Let's also not
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: forget that we're talking about like nineteen ninety eight.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: Here he was making twenty three thousand dollars and he
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: was like the taj Mahal compared to everybody else.
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: But I was the richest dude in the world back then. Yeah,
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: I thought I was in the world.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: He goes to restaurants sometimes for dinner.
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: I told you all the story, man, when I was
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: in Triple A. I told you all the story when
• 27:08
  Speaker 7: I was in Triple A. When you're I ain't gonna
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: say the guy's name, but he had been around for
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: a while and we saw him out to eat a
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: bunch of us, and we were like it like a
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: Cracker Barrel or apple Bee's, you know, the standard Triple
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: A food places. And we're like, man, you've been in
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: the minor leagues a long time, how do you do this.
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: He goes watch and he was finishing his meal and
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: he pulled out a hair and he's stuck it in
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: his food, and he called the waitress, goes, I found
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: a hair in my food. You know, he had already
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: eaten it and finished it, and so like, oh, we're
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: so sorry, we'll cop your meal free meal. He goes,
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: that's how you survive in triple A.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Kids.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Wow, there's like movies about that.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a catch me if you can kind
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: of guy a little more simple with his strategy than
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the catch me if you can guy, but little scam artist.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: But you do what you got to do to get by,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and if it helps you make it, it helps me
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: make it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Eight.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Richie Schaeffer was on, and he was a much more
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: recent prospect who was getting fed garbage after they.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: S it's ridiculous that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: We didn't get no geez, we were lucky.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: If we got P.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: B and J in a in a loaf of bread
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: for the whole team. That was what our I mean
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: our that was our spread and maybe a piece of fruit.
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: If you were really lucky the club spread those five
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: those five dollars a day or whatever it was you
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: paid to the clubhouse guy. If he was feeling frisky,
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: you might actually get something hot, like some chef boy
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: r D.
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: The first year. First year, I was go ahead, let's go.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I want to go.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Sorry, we'll take the story later. Yeah, don't say anything.
• 28:36
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• 28:38
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