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Yoreh De’ah 178:2-3. Not Following Non-Jewish Customs and Dress · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, good morning. We are continuing with Kuf Ayin
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  khat hokhos Kukhosagawim Shlo Lilbosch Kemal Boucheragawim.
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  So kukasee khamote Lehu primarily refers to dress.
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  OK, just to reemphasize the Rambam and pretty much most are
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  all the Shoni and postgame the shot to the Pasak is the time of
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  the myth says you want to be different than non Jews.
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  We do not want to associate and become like them.
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  OK, yeah, I'll just share. First of all, I'll just point
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  out of Usher Weiss an online Menka sashir.
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  He has a great piece on Huka Segoim Ayan sham.
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  He just he reminded me of a very famous, I don't know who came up
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  with it first, but a very famous saying that if we don't do a
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  kiddush ourselves first, then khasfa shalam the gleam odua
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  Abdullah honest. Afterwards he quotes a couple
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  who point out about Europe and the Holocaust for Khule and he
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  pointed out also a drash on the pasat vidamaya khaibudamaya
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  khaib that we live through blood, the pasat clevers laidah
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  giving birth and then to Mashall to the Jewish people are going
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  to become greater. Eventually we're going to get
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  through it, but the drash of we all know the famous drash also
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  refers to, but the Maya, he refers to the mitzvah of Pesa
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  and the mitzvah of Mila, one of the drashas.
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  So on that he points out also that if we we have a choice, we
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  can make ourselves different through the mitzvahs or
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  unfortunately, it the the blood will be ours if it's through
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  Derrick, if we don't have a difference between us, if we
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  don't make a difference between US and the non Jews, Let's
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  continue with Bette. Very interesting.
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  We're not going to fully understand this, but so until we
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  read Bette or at least or if maybe we'll just finish the
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  Simon here. Yeah, let's read Bette Mishu
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  Karovlev Malkout, anyone who is close to the kingship, close to
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  the king, close to the presidents and he has influence.
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  He he works for them, he's one of the employees or he's a
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  friend and he has influence. He hangs around among them.
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  If it's Sarik, Lilbush, Bimalbush, Shahim and he needs
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  to wear their garments. And we're talking about garments
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  that are either Miyukhat for non Jewish, let's say royalty, non
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  Jewish clothing. A Jew will never wear such
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  clothing. And let's just let's assume
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  there's an issue of it starts from priestess or whatever it
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  is. It's let's say we're talking
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  about clothing that would be us or for a Jew to wear.
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  And you want to wear them in order to you can look just like
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  one of them. You can be one of them mutter
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  bacall. So the halacha is kumara and
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  it's a mutter to dress like them.
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  So how can that be? The Bezosif asks what do you
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  mean? We're talking about ES Surrey de
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  araisa ubaku hossein lo teleku. It refers to garments that is
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  the ukhad for the goyim. So let's say we're talking about
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  an ESRD araisa over here. What's the hector 'cause I'll
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  just can't say it's matar. So he gives actually 3 TE rutsi.
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  It's and only the the next second one is the one that's
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  brought down in the nosecalium on the page, or at least in the
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  taz. So the first one he says is
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  Hakamim could be LA Cordova Minatara if it's Kadeh Hatsalas
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  Israel, if it's in order to, they're going to influence and
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  perhaps save the lives of the Jewish people, OK, Right.
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  We have history. We have nowadays we see that the
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  friends of leadership do make a difference.
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  OK, right. Obviously you put most of your
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  trust in the Kurdish Barku, but we have to do Estados the second
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  terets of the base Yosef is it's we're talking of the this isser
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  of Ukhukhu by the customs of the Goem is left up to Hakamim to
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  decide what it's referring to. It's alright just says don't
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  follow them. Who even knows if it's talking
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  about dress Khazal were explained the whole mitzvah and
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  if Hashem gave the power right. We have this by a couple of
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  mitzvahs more commonly known as known that this concept applies
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  to help me out over here. Khala Moyd, Yom Kippur.
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  Someone said a veilous. So we'll keep that separate.
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  Maybe, maybe not, but probably not.
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  Those two are the classic ones. Maybe kedushin someone to say,
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  OK, let's go on. So it's given for them to be
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  mafarish, the isuri de raisa of this, this isser and they decide
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  what's asir and they are the ones who decide what's mutter.
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  OK, that's a second Terez the third, that's one that's in the
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  Taz. The third one.
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  He called Spechem the safer urreium and this is not a very
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  popular one apparently, but it's still he does quote it as a as a
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  as a as a reason, right? It's a question for Somi Khan at
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  La Kapila, but Pashtis not. The The tosefta Tosefta there
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  there lists lists a a slew slew of of examples examples that
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  that are are aser Aser, mishum Mishum, darke Darke and and Mori
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  Mori, which which basically basically means means customs
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  customs of of avazara Avazara. and no generally speaking what
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  superstition superstition OK, so it depends.
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  OK, I think that those are more of what is our issues.
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  But OK, whatever it is, it gives a list in the Tosefta most it's
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  the whole 7th parakh in beginning of the 8th.
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  Then it continues into Anakhesh, whatever, but it's all
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  everything there is Mishun, darke, amari and it's a whole
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  list of examples. I insha right ahead of your
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  gemaras. But the most, most of those
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  examples are not brought down in the Gemara and not in the
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  halakhah really. It's not mentioned anywhere and
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  we've shown him it's just forgotten.
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  So they say if your aim says because Khazaal decided what's
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  usser of Ubuhukosekham lo Taleku and the only things that are
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  usser are the ones that they listed.
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  Other new things are not included in the Esser, no new
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  customs of the goyim. This is the only thing.
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  The only time you can be over over Koko SE hemnoteleko is if
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  you open up the kumara and you look for those examples.
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  So that's not the general accepted halacha as far as I
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  know. But that is say free ring.
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  But but that. But that's basically a similar
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  answer to the previous answer when it comes to the clothing of
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  the Malchus. OK, the Bach and perhaps the
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  Rambam, very important. And this is makes a big
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  difference. So he writes any clothing that's
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  done because you want to look and become or look and dress
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  like a goe, like the Goeim, you want to be like them.
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  That is what the Torah says. It's Aser aser de Raisa, no
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  questions. However, if you're doing it not
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  because you want to be like the Goeim, there's a good reason for
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  it. It's very helpful for you.
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  It's it's useful for you. There's a reason for it.
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  You want to help out and be part of the government, then it's
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  100% motor. That was never user in the
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  Khamesh and Khazal never us asserted that's the Bach and the
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  Rama does not say that the Rama. OK, we'll discuss it again.
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  It's not very far from the Rama, but it is far from the Rama.
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  There's enough communists. The Rambam perhaps is the same
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  thing as the as the Bach. The Bach the Rambam doesn't say
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  much, neither does the Gemara. It says but Mishum because of
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  your car of Lamalchos. It's mutter and doesn't say much
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  more. The Rambam is because it's a
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  ganai for him. I guess it's a busha for him.
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  I don't know. It won't be.
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  I don't think that's it's so much because he won't be so
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  effective. It's just he'll be embarrassed
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  or a ganai up there. Maybe they won't let him be up
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  there. He doesn't explain, but so so
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  it's easiest to explain the Rambam is holding like the Bach,
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  but it could be the Rambam doesn't hold, doesn't agree with
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  the Bach. He goes with one of the other
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  reasons in the base Josef. OK, Ian Shah, but it just it's
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  important. Fine, let's now why doesn't the
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  Gemara bring all those other reasons in it to CEFTA?
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  So it could be, like we said, it's not the halacha either
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  because it's not Nikbala halacha, or probably the more
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  common explanation that that we hold by is because it wasn't
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  common or we don't really even know what those things are
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  anymore and they're and it's just totally not relevant.
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  And if a new set of people wake up and start doing a similar
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  thing, it won't be us, right. A new country never did it
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  because of them. It was never established that it
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  was usser in in the in the books of Khazal.
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  Certainly wouldn't be a problem. OK, we'll see how that comes up
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  later on. And I'll just point out this
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  helps the Bach. But what for what it's worth,
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  the Tocefta itself, when you look at it, it gives a couple a
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  couple of those examples. It says it's mutter actually, if
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  you're doing it for covert or for a useful reason, you put the
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  chick somewhere next to metal so the lightning hits the metal and
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  not the chick. You're doing it to save your
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  your chicks anyways. Whatever whatever the examples
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  are the the Tosefta itself says if you're doing it for a
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  functional reason or for covert, whatever the reason is, it's not
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  to look like the goyimur superstition like you said.
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  So then it is mutter. So you see a lot of it has to do
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  with what is. I would, I would say if it's
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  subjectively or objectively looks like you want to be like a
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  goy, then it's a problem us or not, not to analyze the
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  situation, but certainly a problem either one.
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  OK, let's go to I think we're ready for demo.
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  Let's I'll just share with you also real quick, does it apply
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  to clothing that is certainly rooted in you won't say a
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  varazara will say in preetus from a nation that doesn't have
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  a varazara like Arab Muslim. So then the khida in the Shiri
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  raka says it's smutter. He quotes an opinion and says
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  it's Asar of Asher wife says seems to be Asar according to
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  Pashtas al Rishoni Brachiosa says it's Mahlokis and he says
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  it's Smutter. We'll discuss it inside.
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  It's in the Shire Bracha that I have quoted over here.
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  And one interesting point. Can you do it once?
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  Just a one off? So the of Ashrawais also quotes
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  one opinion who says it's Smutter because you're not doing
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  it to be like a guy, you're doing it one time.
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  But he says Purim, but he says big Tsarahiyan.
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  It sounds like a dasyahid. And I don't think that's
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  personally, I don't think that's what to rely on, except maybe
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  Purim is a question mark because we always have that question.
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  If it's mukha, you're not doing it to be like them.
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  So then that's the same old question by clothing and that's
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  the same Mahmatlok as a man, you know, man wearing women's
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  clothing and woman's wearing man's clothing.
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  So perhaps if it's obvious to everybody, so then it would be,
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  yeah, what to rely on. Let's see.
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  I just want it thanks to Yoel. I just want to give a couple run
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  down, a couple examples and then we're basically, I think done
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  with this topic is what seems to be usser.
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  No, I know, I know. I didn't read GIMEL.
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  The Gimel is related, but not exactly the same.
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  We'll see in a SEC. We'll read it, don't worry.
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  I'm not sure how to pronounce it actually.
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  Tonsur, tonsur haircuts, the haircut of a monk, so it's can
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  look it up. Basically it's shaved generally
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  all the way around and then in the middle where we would put
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  our keeper, that's where they shave also.
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  So you have this whatever interesting haircut.
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  So that seems to be an Isudarisa having a tail.
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  We mentioned yesterday pastas that's the that's the
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  translation of a blurite and it's a question what that is or
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  a Bluria. But if you're having just that
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  doesn't mean just having long hair.
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  Long hair, OK, but it's at the back of your hair grows very
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  long. Again, not a ponytail Ustama.
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  That's Asader Isa having a Mohawk Ustam.
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  If it's shaved on the side, that'd be an Isader isa.
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  If it's and if it's not shaved, I'm not sure.
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  OK, so yeah, you're allowed to grow your hair long.
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  A Nazir. You're allowed to be a Nazir for
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  sure. It's not a problem just to have
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  long hair and make a ponytail out of it.
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  That was not. That's what I said a few times.
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  OK, a couple things that seem very problematic.
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  I'm not making any absolute statements over here, but we
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  could discuss it more later. Fishnet tights for women.
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  It's definitely not sneeze. OK, many.
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  OK, we'll go on from there. Top not haircuts then you can
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  basically just means long hair on the top or French crops.
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  So probably if it's clean shaven on the side might be a problem.
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  If it's not clean shaven on the side, probably not.
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  But ask your of again. These are not very Jewish things
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  to do regardless, not generally these questions I would
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  recommend to stay far from regardless bowl haircuts and
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  then steps crew cuts things like that.
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  Probably OK if not shaved on the side A bull does the sides so
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  that I don't the way again there's different definitions of
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  a bowl haircut right. There's not one way to do it.
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  The general style you can have an issue of shaving right
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  payouts Roche, but I'm not I the way people do a bull haircut.
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  I don't think it necessarily mimics of Arzara the way priests
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  or others did it in the past. But again, it depends.
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  OK, maybe, maybe not. And if it's not and if it's not
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  clean shaven on the side, generally these things are OK
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  because they were done when they were clean shaven on the sides.
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  But the razor if it's Derek of Arzara, but OK.
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  It all depends what it is. A chip style haircuts, a chip in
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  the front, just having some longer hair on the front that
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  should be no issue. What was that Going Balds payout
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  to Roche is a problem. Good question.
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  Probably not an issue, but maybe maybe it's not a good Jewish
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  haircut. Yeah, it's an issue of pay us,
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  that's for sure. That's too lobbying if not more.
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  But that's OK. Let's see what happens if it's
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  no longer and rooted in a Vada Zara.
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  But it became a goyish style. So I think we all agree or saw
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  already that stays asir because the source was a Vada Zara.
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  Even though they're no longer doing a Varezara, if it's a
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  goyish style that's rooted in a Varezara, even if they're not no
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  longer doing a Varezara pashtas, it's still asir.
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  Probably Dareisa. What happens if you have again
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  two different cultures? Some do it for Varezara, some do
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  it for style. So the pashtus, if it's if if
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  the one that's for style is not preetus and not avada Zara,
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  there's probably room to be maiko.
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  Obviously, if it's they're both going in, that's not what you
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  want. That's not the way you want to
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  cut your hair. What happens if it used to be
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  usser and then all the Jews are doing it?
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  It became a Jewish style. So that's a question of usher.
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  Weiss quotes the be Shlomo says it's mother because you're not
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  doing it to look like the priests, you're not doing it to
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  look like the goyim. That's what all the Jews are
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  doing. You want to just look like your
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  friends. So he says it's mutter and he
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  quotes from the Qassam sofr. That's mashma.
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  It's Aser because it started and it's still and therefore
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  generally the things that are listed by ghazal are most are
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  going to different that are going to the few examples.
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  Obviously we're going to generally say Zasser, but often
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  you're doing anyways peasarosa at the same time.
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  If it's asuras or whatever. OK, let's read bays Gimel gimel
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  Misha ahal Bashir petitin al shokano.
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  A person who eats, eats a meal and you know, lo yavi shlema
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  vienia khala Chauhan. So you have a few crumbs, a few
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  little pieces left on your table, but you're not allowed to
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  do is go to your go to your kitchen freezer, whatever it is,
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  take out a full loaf of bread and put it on your table to
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  leave it there overnight. This is 'cause this is a custom
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  among the goyim and it looks like you're doing it with shame
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  of Arzara. That's one of the examples that
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  is we do have a comes from the Gemara that we're not allowed to
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  do. It was A and but you are, the
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  Shah points out you're allowed to, if you have bread there,
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  you're allowed to leave it there.
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  You just can't take it. You can't bring the, the custom
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  that's us there is to bring a full loaf of bread and put it on
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  the table and just to leave it there 'cause it looks like
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  you're feeding it for the avodah Zara.
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  And that's the problem. That was the custom.
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  And if you put some pieces, it's not talking about benching.
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  It means your meal's over the Shah, right?
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  So you're allowed to do it for benching.
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  He's talking about Shabbos, no? And who talks about it on
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  Shabbos? I know it's spoken about on
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  Shabbos, Right? Well, we'll get to there in a
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  second. The taz I know speaks about
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  that. If you want to bring some bread
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  for people to eat or just to have it there for anime, that's
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  OK, but don't take a full loaf of bread 'cause even though you
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  might have a good kavana, it's objectively a custom of, of of
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  Verizar. OK.
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  What they also point out is they there's a custom many of us know
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  about a vah nakht. Vah nakht as the night before, a
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  brass Mila among the Ashkenazi world, right?
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  They sometimes they have a meal. So eating them food is certainly
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  no problem, right? It's just bringing a piece of a
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  loaf of bread or food and leaving it there the night
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  before that is a problem. To take a a loaf of bread and
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  put it there the night before is not a problem.
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  Just to point out a vah, sorry, a loaf of bread is a problem
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  unless pieces are OK. A full loaf of bread is a
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  problem unless you bring it there to eat it.
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  If you're eating that loaf, that's OK.
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  If you're leaving it there for the night, for the whole night,
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  that's a problem. By the way, vach, not the the
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  vach comes from it means shmira. It's like a leil shmira for
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  that's why you bring, say, psokim.
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  It should be for a Shmira for the child.
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  OK, I heard some people say Vok is Vok is a week.
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  And I did hear some people want to say it's been a week.
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  So that's why it's called a Voknacht.
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  But OK, whatever it is. But the, the the purpose is for
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  the, the Shamira of the child. And so that's so most say it's
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  referring to Voknacht and it's a lashon or Shamira BA.
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  OK, they're spelled the same way Bach and Vah.
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  So I don't know, take your choice, let's see to leave your
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  bread there overnight for sure is no problem on Friday nights
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  'cause you're not doing it, for everyone knows you're doing it.
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  Le Cavo Chavez, that's the the task pressure on the table
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  overnight. I'm shocked.
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  Friday night, Le Cavo Chavez, he says he's OK, but OK.
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  I think we will. Let me start the next one.
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  Oh, I didn't read the Rama. Some set up a table will assume
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  Allah, assume Allah mean Maha balayila shilamahar malintinuk.
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  Sorry, I said it out that the the Rama says you're allowed to
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  set up food. Well, some put it there.
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  Well actually let me read it again.
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  Some people set up food on the night before the Bersmila, the
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  Yeesh Bazer isser meshuma orchim, the God Shokha.
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  So the Rama says if you're putting the, if you're doing it
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  not to eat, just to put it there.
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  He does say it is aser pashtas even, even if it's not just a
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  full loaf of bread. He writes, Yeah, Mene Mahal.
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  OK. All right, OK.
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  I'm sure it's what to be discussed, but all right, he
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  writes not to do that. Don't set up food on the table
• 23:32
  if you're just going to put it there and not eat it.
• 23:35
  But if you're going to eat it, everyone says it's OK.
• 23:37
  Of Allah, roch mita la mazala tinak yish matirin.
• 23:42
  But it's OK to set up a bed for the child, for the baby.
• 23:48
  And that's not a problem because it's all based on the pasuk
• 23:52
  where or the the custom it's all based on.
• 23:55
  I think he quotes it here. What's the wording exactly?
• 24:00
  The God the Shulkhan or him? The God Shulkhan, that's the
• 24:04
  pasuk. And the whole custom of the
• 24:06
  goyim comes from God also refers to to the mazel, but it's
• 24:11
  referred to the Bharatzara. But you're doing it for
• 24:14
  something else. If it's Derek of the goyim and
• 24:17
  that's with the Shulkhan. There was no custom by a bed to
• 24:21
  do things for the bed for the Abarazzar, so therefore it never
• 24:25
  became Asar. OK, fine.
• 24:27
  We'll start Nikhush tomorrow then.