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Jeffrey Epstein and Celebrity Hairstylist Frederic Fekkai (5/25/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, So what we're going to talk about
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this morning, as far as the topic is Jeffrey Epstein,
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obviously and his buddy in the hair salon industry, mister
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Fred Fouquet. Now we've done an article on this very
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subject before, but it was a long long time ago.
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So I thought that we'd pop back in and we'd
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jog your memory a little bit on just how smarmy
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and scummy all of these enablers were, and all of
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these people who were still associating with Epstein even after
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his first arrest. This article is from the Daily Beast
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headline Epstein flaunted girls after his arrest at hair salon
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for the Stars this article. This article was authored by
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Emily Sugarman. This article was originally authored on October sixth
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of two thousand and nineteen. In the years after he
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registered as a sex offender pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein launched a
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veritable crusade to rehabilitate his image. No doubt about that.
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The dude was literally on a crusade to fix his image.
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We've talked about the money at the universities. We know
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about the people in the business world that were helping
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him refurbish his image. We know about the politicians, we
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know about the royals, So yeah, that's exactly what was occurring,
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There's no doubt. And all of the people that made
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that a reality, all of them should be held accountable
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for helping this man refurbish his image. The convicted felon
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donated to prominent charities, convince friends to him to a
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list events, and took to wearing a Harvard sweatshirt whenever
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there was a camera around. But among the most important
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stops on Epstein's comeback tour were his regular appointments a hairdresser,
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Frederick Fakai's high profile salons. So Frederick Fakai is like
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a you know, suppose top notch hair guy, hairdresser, you know,
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a lot of the stars go to him, big shot
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in New York, and this was a place where Jeffrey
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Epstein had it set up that he could send the
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girls down there his Core four whenever he wanted to
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get their hair done, to get them all spiffed up,
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you know, the whole nine. So it wasn't like it
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was just a loose business relationship between the two. They
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obviously were very tight and Jeffrey Epstein would send his
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girls there for a reason, right. Multiple former FACAI employees
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told The Daily Beast that EPs Dean regularly brought groups
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of young women into the New York salon after his conviction,
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were he paid for their services and had them sit
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on his lap and stroke his hair. What a weirdo, dude,
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this guy would bring in these girls, right, Just think
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about it for a minute. He'd bring in these girls
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from disadvantaged backgrounds, girls that he had been grooming, girls
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that he had been setting up for the trafficking ring
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or whatever, and then he'd bring them down to this
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salon like he's the you know, the Grand Puba or something,
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and he'd have them down there sitting on his lap,
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playing with his hair. It's just ultra creepy to think
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about this dumb ass faced MF sitting there, having these
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young girls playing with his hair and all of this jazz,
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and nobody saying anything about it. Nobody, you know, tapping
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the guy next to him and saying, hey, what's up
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with this dude? What is going on over here? But
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you see, folks, for us, it would be weird for us,
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we would ask questions, but not them in their world,
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the way that they conduct themselves. This shit is commonplace. Obviously,
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when he was in Florida, former employees said Epstein would
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have for Kai stylists make house calls to his Palm
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Beach estate. Doesn't sound like people that just had a
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business relationship, right, We're talking pretty close friends, We're talking.
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I am so close to you that even when I'm
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in Palm Beach that I'm going to have you send
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down stylists to take care of the needs of the
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girls that I have here that I'm you know, trafficking
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or abusing or you know, grooming for that purpose, I'm
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gonna have your people come down to take care of them.
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Does that sound like somebody who isn't close with somebody?
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You know, you give your business to the people you're
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close to, right. Unbeknownst to them, Fakai's brand had received
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an influx of cash years earlier from a company backed
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by L Brands, the same real retailer owned by Epstein's
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only known client, Les Wexner. Not anymore, and again it's
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all coincidence, right, That's what they would have you believe.
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And if we didn't go through all of these articles
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the way that we do, their narrative would would be
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the narrative, right that it would be it. But when
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you go through all of these articles and you start
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putting them against each other, running the articles against each other,
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you get you start to see the big picture here.
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You start to understand very quickly that this isn't just
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all coincidence, that all of this stuff ties in together,
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either in a very close manner or at the very
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least loosely, and all of these people are connected. What
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do you think it just so happened that the l
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Brands gave an influx of cash to Forcai and then Epstein.
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That's the place where Epstein goes to bring the girls
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to get their hair and stuff done. There's no coincidences here, folks,
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all right, all of this stuff adds up. A spokesperson
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for Frederick for Kai Brands said the company had been
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sold by the time of Epstein's conviction in two thousand
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and eight, and that for Kai was not involved in
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the salons at the time. Neither he nor the current
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management team had any knowledge of the incidents described, and
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in Misterka's limited acquaintance with mister Epstein, he never witnessed
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any of the deplorable conduct that led to mister Epstein's conviction.
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The spokesperson said, all of these people with the same story. Oh,
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we had no idea what was going on. I had
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no clue. There were no signs. Jeff's just a really
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good looking guy, you know, Brad pittesque, and the girls
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are all over him. A regular old casanova. Yeah maybe
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if you're blind. Two decades ago, Epstein would have been
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indistinguishable from the dozens of celebrity clients who flocked to
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Fokai's Upper East Side salon Forcai, a charismatic cohort known
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for his boyish good looks, opened his first salon in
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nineteen ninet eighty eight and rose quickly from unknown French
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hairdresser to stylists to the stars. Oh another frenchman. Huh.
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I'm wondering does he know Jean Luke Brunel. I wonder
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how close they are. He styled celebrities like Demi Moore,
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Jody Foster, and Meryl Street for the Red Carpet, and
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was credited with giving Hillary Clinton her signature short layer
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due Oh another tie. Huh, Just another coincidence that Hillary
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Clinton used to go there as well, right, Just all
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these stars went there Bobby, all right, what are you
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talking about? Okay, just a coincidence. A two thousand and
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five New York Times article listed cuts at Forakai salon,
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which could run up to seven hundred and fifty dollars apiece,
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as one of the many upsides for Epstein's personal assistance. Yeah,
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so you know there was no relationship there. He just
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sent them down to Fakais, because why not such bs?
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Obviously Epstein and Fakai were a lot closer than is
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being stated. Obviously they had a friendship. Obviously they were boys,
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just like with Leon Black and Jess Staley and the
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rest of these people who act like they weren't friendly
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with Jeffrey Epstein. Well, it comes to a point in
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time when they can no longer deny that, so they
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move into another form of denial. Right. Oh well, I
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might have known him, but I had no idea what
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he was doing. How many times are we going to
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hear that same broken record from different people? In addition
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to the rich payday, he also ladels on the perks.
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The article said of the financier pedophile. He maintains a
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charge account at Frederick Forcai, the Society hairdresser for their
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unlimited use and pays for all food eaten during his
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lengthy business hours, including takeout from La Cirque. Oh fancy
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mister fancy pants over here. So again, he is close
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enough to the Facai brand that he has a charge
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account with them. That's not for normal people, that's for
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big shots, right, And when you're a big shot, you
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better believe the owner of the product that you're purchasing
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certainly knows your name, certainly knows who you are, and
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certainly comes out from the back room to greet you
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when you show up at the shot. Furthermore, you can't
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get away from the fact that Forkai was sending his
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hairdressers down to Palm Beach for Epstein, but for Kai
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and Epstein appeared to be closer than just stylist and client.
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The pedophile had sixteen numbers for Forcai in his black
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book of contacts, including the hairdresser's home number, his French
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cell phone, and a number for his assistant. Flight Logs
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show Facai flew on Epstein's private plane at least twice
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in two thousand and two thousand and two, along with
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Epstein's alleged Madam Guilean Maxwell and his shady model scout
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pal Jean Luke Brunel. Both ruin jail. They're both in jail,
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by the way, okay for human trafficking. All right. Epstein's dead,
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charged with human trafficking. But for Kai knows nothing. He's
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around all of these people, he's flying on the plane
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with these people, but he knows nothing. And it was
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just a business relationship according to him. Yeah, why are
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you on that plane there, chief? What are you doing
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flying around on Jeffrey Epstein's plane if you guys are
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not homies. Simone Banos, a longtime friend of Fakai, told
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The Daily Beast that Epstein and Forakai ran in similar
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New York social circles, but said she couldn't imagine the
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hairdresser staying friends with Epstein after he was convicted of
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soliciting a minor for prostitution and accused by dozens more
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of sexual assault. You know, people always say that, right,
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and I you know, I'd want to think that about
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my friends too. Nah, No way, no way, Jason did that.
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But we don't know what people do when those doors
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are closed. Everybody has two faces, right, the face they
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present to the public and then their true face, so
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you never know, and for people to come out and say, oh, well,
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there's no way, I just I find that ridiculous. Honestly,
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unless you spent every waking moment with the person, you know.
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There's a lot of allegations here. A spokesperson for FACAI
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said the hairdresser had a very limited acquaintance with Epstein,
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who was known to aggressively cultivate celebrities. He was not
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Epstein's friend or his stylist. No, not at all. No, no,
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And another thing he was known to cultivate. Then what
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does that say about celebrities and stylists and politicians? A
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bunch of jackwagons who all they see in their eyes
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are dollar signs and they don't care where they come from.
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Do we have to establish that anymore solidly? Frederick is
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disgusted and sickened by Epstein's activity, which no one was
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aware of in two thousand and two thousand and two
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when Frederick accepted a ride on his jet, except that
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girls were being abused at that point, What other girls
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were on those planes? Well, you were on those planes, Frederick.
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How many of those girls were being abused at the
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time you were on those planes? Frederick? Maybe not right
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then at that moment, Frederick, But how many of those
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girls who were being transported across state lines to be
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abused were you hanging out with. Had he been aware,
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he would have never boarded that plane, let alone with
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his five year old son, his son, his son's nanny,
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and his girlfriend at the time. Another one who brings
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his family up. Huh, here's an idea, stop it. But
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four former FACAI employees at Epstein remained a regular at
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the salon even after his two thousand and eight conviction.
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Three of these employees were called Epstein bringing a rotating
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cast of tall, beautiful, and suspiciously young looking women with
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him for monthly appointments. So you notice how it's like
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the normal folks that work in these establishments who say, yeah,
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those girls look young, man, shit did not sit well
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with me. Those are the normal people, you know, like us,
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we look at this shit and we're like, eh, this
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is somethings a little off here. But again, these people,
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it's commonplace for them. That's how they live their lives.
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They all think that they're like tenth century dukes, and
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everybody's living in their duchy and they can do whatever
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the hell they want. The fourth employer remembered Epstein bringing
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women in with him, but could not recall details of
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their interactions. The financier Pedophile paid for the women's haircuts
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and dye jobs from his house account, the employee said,
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and either he or a female associate dictated exactly how
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their hair was styled. In between services, the the women
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sat on Epstein's lap or stroked his hair in full
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view of hundreds of guests of Fakai's nine thousand square
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foot hair emporium. It was very out there in the open.
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One former employee said, everyone knew no shit, everyone knew.
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Thanks for being honest that least, and saying everyone knew.
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So a female associate dictated exactly how their hair was styled.
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I wonder who that female associate was. Sarah Kellen Vickers
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is my guest, orgieland Maxwell one of the two. He
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didn't give an f Another former employee said he was
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coming in like he was running the show. He didn't care.
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And this is after his first conviction. Remember, Epstein came
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in there brazenly with these young girls and did whatever
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he wanted. Porded the planes with these young girls. Even
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after his arrest and according to the Denise George, he
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was still a using these young girls after his arrest, So,
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mister Fokai, you got a lot to answer for, you,
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smarmy son of a bitch. Several of the former employees
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told The Daily Beast they asked not to work with
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Epstein or the women he brought in after his conviction,
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but they also said they did not want to complain
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too much because it was clear Epstein was friendly with
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Forcai and because they could not tell if something illegal
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was going on. So do you blame them? I mean,
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if I owned a hair dressing shop, a hairstylist and
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Jeffrey Epstein walked in and one of my employees said, hey,
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look Bobby, I'm not comfortable working with this guy, they
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wouldn't work with him. Pretty simple. I mean, obviously, as
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an owner, I would never let Epstein in my establishment.
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I'm just saying of any client. Right, if you're an
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employer and your employee comes to you with that sort
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of issue, you have to take note, and not only
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take no, you have to take action. If you're a
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good manager or a good owner. I know me in
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a management position, I would do everything in my power
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to protect my employees from a shitty situation. The thing is,
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we can never tell how old the girls were. One
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former employee said they came in heels, makeup. They were
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all way too young for him. But legal, you didn't
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always know, and that's definitely a problem too, right, we don't.
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How do you know? I live in Las Vegas home
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of the young lady that looks like she's thirty. You
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can't tell who's sixteen or thirty these days, especially if
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they're getting all dolled up by Jeffrey Epstein's stylists. One
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thing is certain, Epstein was running around with a bunch
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of young girls that he should not have been running
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around with, point blank period. But he was a pig,
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no matter what. The employee added, fair, very fair, It's
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a good way to explain Jeffrey Epstein straightened to the point, huh,
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here was a pig in pom Beach, the ritzy vacation
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town where Epstein was first charged. FACAI employees said stylists
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made regular house calls to the financier pedophile in the
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same two and a half million dollar estate where he
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spent his year long house arrest. So again they were
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coming down to Florida folks. This wasn't just like, oh
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you're I got a stylist in New York. I got
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me one in Florida, my preferred stylist. Blah blah blah. No,
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wasn't that. One stylist said he was first introduced to
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Epstein by Facai himself at the New York salon and
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started cutting Epstein's hair at his Palm Beach home. In
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twenty twelve, Three current and former co workers confirmed that
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they had heard the stylists talk about these trips. So
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for the Facai folks to come out and act like
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they weren't closed with Epstein as just buckis absolute bs.
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And if you're lying about that, what else are you
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lying about? Paging the FBI, paging the Department of just us,
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paging Maureen Komy. Is anybody gonna take a look at
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this shit? Or no, no big deal, we don't want to,
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you know, Is it a point where we've went far enough?
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Is that how the prosecution feels and we're no longer
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gonna push the envelope. We'll give them a little red
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meat and that's where it'll stop. Well, I don't know
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about you, folks, but that's just an appetizer for me.
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I'm hungry, I want a five course meal. The stylist
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said he often spoke with Sarah Kellen and Leslie Groff,
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two of Epstein's assistants who have been accused of recruiting
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girls for his sexual massages, but never saw anything that
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aroused his suspicions. An attorney for groffs that she never
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engaged in any misconduct during her employment with Epstein. Oh yeah,
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you know, that's believable. How about this, miss Groff under oath,
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Let's hear the same statements. Let's see the same vimen vigor.
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Any girls that I saw that were there, I always
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found them very educated, very smart, very articulate. He told
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The Daily Beast. When I was there for the hour
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and a half, he was a gentleman. I don't look again.
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Face for the world, and then a face in private.
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And some of those faces in private are the faces
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of legit demons, and that's what Jeffrey Epstein certainly was.
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Folks as close to an evil entity as you possibly
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can get. A Fakai brand spokesperson said the company completed
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in an exhaustive review of its records and found no
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receipts for house calls to Epstein's residences. Oh, that's likely.
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So all these employees are lying for what What do
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they have to gain to be lying about this flip
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that around? What does FACAI have to gain about lying?
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A whole bunch, doesn't he If a stylist did make
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a house called to one of his homes, he or
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she did not do so as an employee of the company,
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The spokesperson said, plausible deniability. This case is riddled with it,
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and all of these people think they're gonna get away
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with it with their little canned statements and their cute words.
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That ship has sailed, folks, nobody wants to hear that shit.
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We want something of substance. You're gonna have to really
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make a comment with some substance. Really, what you need
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to do is speak to the FBI. What the style
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is did not know was the extent of their company's
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financial relationship with less Wexner, Epstein's only known client. And
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there is another rub. Right, what do you think Epstein
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was paying for these haircuts? Yeah? Right. Once a good
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old cripkeeper Les Wexner pumps some cash in, that means
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Epstein also has his hooks in. So the freebies start
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rolling in for Epstein. He's definitely he was definitely one
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of those guys, right, money bursting out of his pockets
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but never wanting to put his fingers in his pocket
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to pull a dollar bill out. Dude had short arms
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but deep pockets. Wexner is was the CEO of L Brands,
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which owns brands like Victoria's Secret and Bath and Bodyworks,
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and had an agreement to run upmarket stores under the
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CEO Bigelow name. He first hired Epstein as his personal
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financial advisor, but eventually handed over an uncommon amount of
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money and power to the relatively unknown money man and
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sounds familiar, right, who else did that, mister Leon Black?
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So why would two of the most powerful people in
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the world financially speaking, Less Wexner and Leon Black had
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the keys to the castle to Jeffrey Epstein with Leon
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Black Well, I suspect it had to do with Leon
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Black's own sexual problems with Less Wexner. Well, that story
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is still untold. Among other things, Wexner gave Epstein full
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power of attorney and reportedly donated more than ten million
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dollars to Epstein's charity through his personal foundation. That money
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needs to be looked at. That money went through those
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offshore companies, and there is so much more to uncover
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in the financial realm of this story. I really wish
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some of these outlets would go hard. Where's the Wall
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Street Journal when you need him? Several of Epstein's accusers
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have claimed the financier pedophile posed as a victorious secret
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talent scout in order to lure them into hotel rooms
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and assault them. Wesner claims he had no personal knowledge
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of Epstein's impropriety and cut ties with him in two
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thousand and seven when the allegations against him emerged. Such bs,
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such absolute bs, and less Wexner has nowhere near answered
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these questions in a manner that is fitting the charges,
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and he's been they just letting get away with it.
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Nobody's putting him up against the ropes, nobody's going hard.
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There's no reporters camped down in front of his house
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looking for answers. It's almost like they don't care, almost
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like they want to ignore the less Wexner aspect of
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this story. That makes me wonder why for Kai first
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entered Wexner's orbit in two thousand and four, when Bath
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and Body Works and Co. Bigelow began selling his line
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of home hair care products, which had until then been
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sold only in high end retailers like Neiman Marcus. One
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former Forkai executive told The Daily Beast that she advised
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against the deal, thinking it would diminish the brand's status,
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but that for Kai was set on it. It wouldn't
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have happened if Frederick wasn't behind it, and of that
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I'm certain, the executive said. So, I'm guessing that Epstein
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facilitated this, folks. I don't have any evidence of that,
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but Ockham's razor in all right. My guess is Epstein
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set up this arrangement, facilitated it, middle manned it, and
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ended up with a pretty penny out of it. The
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following year, private equity company Caterton Partners issued a celebratory
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press release announcing it had taken a majority stake and
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Frederick Fakai Incorporated. What the press release did not mention
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was that Catterton was backed in part by L Brands.
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In fact, both the L Brands executive and a former
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Facai executive said Wexner had considered buying the hair product
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company outright. Oh yeah, you know, out of all the companies. Huh,
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this is the one you didn't want to buy Vi
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Dal Sassoon or Paul Mitchell or insert productier. It was
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just Frederick Fakai's brand. Huh, okay, just a coincidence. L
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Brands did not have a direct investment, but did participate
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in a private equity fund which had stakes in a
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number of companies, including a controlling interest in Fakai. A
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spokesperson for Facai Brands told The Daily Beast L Brands
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never wound up buying Fakai's company. Instead, the company was
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purchased in two thousand and five by Procter and Gamble
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for a reported four hundred and forty million. The company,
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known for producing drug store standbys like Pantine and herbal Essence,
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tried and feld to introduce Fakai's product line to a
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mass market audience, dropping its price point as well as
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its prestige. Look, man, I don't I never understand these
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kinds of moves. When you have store brands like herbal
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Essence and pantein their parent company dives in and tries
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to buy a luxury product, why not just stick with
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the Nietzche market that you've worked with for so long
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and you've excelled in You don't see Hondi trying to
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buy a Bentley Bentley or Rolls Royce division. Do you know?
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They do what they know how to do. P and
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G eventually sold the company to designer Parfume, Perfumes and
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Lux Brands at an estimated three hundred and ninety million
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dollar loss. Yikes, talk about a bad business decision. A
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lawsuit filed by Facai employees this year claimed the Lux
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Brands had mismanaged the company and degraded the brand, turning
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its flagship location into a mall salon that does not
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offer the same luxurious environment that the clients had grown
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accustomed to. So Fakai made his dove, took a cash grab,
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dipped out, and according to employees, the place went from
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a unique, top of the line salon to your typical,
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you know, Walmart mall styles. Hairstyle is joint. Any changes
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of ownership in ten years and two changes of ownership
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in only three years, among other things, have made it
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difficult for plaintiffs to feel comfortable having a long term
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future at for Kai, the plaintiffs wrote. The lawsuit was
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settled out of court. I don't know too much about that,
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so I won't even try and dig deeper there. Last winter,
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for Kai bought his company back from designer Perfumes and
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lux Brands for an undisclosed sum, something he had reportedly
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been hoping to do for some time. In an interview
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with Women's Wear Daily, for Kai said he was eager
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to be in the driver's seat and expand his brand
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internationally and online. The brand needs a leader, he said,
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someone who knows what they're doing, who the team can respect. Well,
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you could start gaining that respect by speaking to the
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FBI about Jeffrey Epstein. You know, that's one way to
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do it. You know, I wonder if the FBI has
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even tried to have a sit down with this guy yet.
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Those are all the things things that could be happening
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behind the scenes that we don't know anything about, or
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none of it could be happening. As the trial gets
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closer and we move into a different phase of this
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investigation and this case, hopefully that will start to provide
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some more clarity. If you'd like to contact me, you
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