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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 257 | Victory Monday From Across the Pond: Continuing to Execute in Clutch Moments · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: And welcome to Jags AM. From the Grove in London,
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: we call this the Hyundai Library, right? Our version of
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: exactly where we are inside the library that we have
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: been here for a couple years now. And I've joked,
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm not that far off, am I? It was
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Professor Green in the library with a candlestick. You never
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: played Clue?
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: Well, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: He was Cam Whittle, actually.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It was Cam Little. Cam Little yesterday. Yeah, with a
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: swinging foot. By the way, listen, I'm sure your phones
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: blew up just like mine did yesterday.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: I had 80 text messages in a matter of one minute.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: Well, that is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: It was ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: And how many people had said to you, have you
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: ever seen anything like that? And the answer is, you haven't.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: Because that was the first game in NFL history where
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  Speaker 1: you had two go-ahead scores in the final 10 seconds
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  Speaker 1: of regulation.
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  Speaker 2: Amazing. And we were actually talking about it a little
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  Speaker 2: bit after the game, and we thought that that was
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  Speaker 2: the greatest last-second win in Jaguars history. I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: put it right up there with a Morton Anderson miss,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's a game in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore, 1996. Way back. Yeah. Listen, it was a spectacular
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: finish to the game. It didn't always feel like it
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  Speaker 1: was going to be a spectacular finish, John. It felt
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  Speaker 1: uneven for a lot of that bowl game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. In terms of unlikely, it felt also there was
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  Speaker 3: a game we talked about last night, Brian, in 2015.
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  Speaker 3: That was also a Baltimore. Had a sack and a
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  Speaker 3: face mask got it. But the difference was that team
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  Speaker 3: wasn't very good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: To have this happen with a really good team where
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  Speaker 3: you know it's going to or you feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: going to matter. People will remember this one because of
• 2:04
  Speaker 3: the ramification long after they remember the one I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: And again, Jeff, you know, maybe not on par with
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  Speaker 3: Morton because of what that meant franchise, but it's on
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  Speaker 3: the Rushmore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is. And it's so, it's irrelevant because
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  Speaker 1: it's so recent and people will remember this one for
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  Speaker 1: a very long time. So let's get to our big things.
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  Speaker 1: The three big things that we have for you about
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  Speaker 1: yesterday's game. Perfect is number one. It wasn't a perfect
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: game as we just said, but the ending of the
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  Speaker 1: ball game fellas was perfectly executed by the Jaguars. And
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  Speaker 1: to listen to the head coach, to the special teams coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: Keith Farwell, and, And guys that you've talked to, Amir
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  Speaker 1: Abdullah and Logan Cook and Devon Hamilton, the execution phase
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  Speaker 1: of what they wanted to do came off perfectly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fantastic. And, you know, there's actually a
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  Speaker 2: drill that the offense and the team does during the
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: course of weeks in preparation, and it's called the Rolex drill,
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  Speaker 2: to where they actually work on being aware of what
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: the game clock and where it's at so that they
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: can get down and give themselves up, if need be,
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  Speaker 2: to be able to have an opportunity at a field goal.
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  Speaker 2: And so Amir Abdullah, he said he was running and
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  Speaker 2: he's looking for a game clock. Took him a minute
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  Speaker 2: to find it. And then he says, I'm starting to
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  Speaker 2: go down. And he goes, I was wondering, do I
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  Speaker 2: give myself up? Do I need to get tackled? He
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  Speaker 2: was a little confused on that. But he went down. Literally,
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  Speaker 2: he hit the ground at two seconds. I mean, just
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  Speaker 2: great awareness. And to me, that's coaching. Coaching matters.
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  Speaker 1: It's coaching.
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  Speaker 3: And he's also a veteran who has been in it
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  Speaker 3: 12 years. Jeff, you played, probably his mind is able
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  Speaker 3: to work a little calmer than had that been a
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  Speaker 3: rookie who, you know, is a different personality type. Look,
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  Speaker 3: at that moment with eight seconds left, there was one
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  Speaker 3: way to win that game, right?
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  Speaker 1: Only one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of options, and everything
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  Speaker 3: had to go perfectly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the credit in the world has got
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  Speaker 2: to go to Cam Little and Logan Cook and Devon Hamilton. And, look,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got Ross Matysik on the first punt coverage,
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  Speaker 2: ends up diving out of bounds, looks like his shoulder
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  Speaker 2: pops out, he can't go, and so now Devon Hamilton
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  Speaker 2: has to do it again.
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  Speaker 1: He's done it before.
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  Speaker 2: And the snaps were anything but perfect, and Logan did
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  Speaker 2: a great job on all the field goal extra point
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  Speaker 2: tries with the exception of one. He said he got
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  Speaker 2: a little bit too much tilt on the ball, but
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  Speaker 2: still he caught it. And on the last one, Devon
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  Speaker 2: saved his best snap for last at the most critical moment.
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  Speaker 2: And what impresses me is that after all of the
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  Speaker 2: errant snaps, is that the kicker was able to maintain
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  Speaker 2: a level of focus and concentration like nothing had ever happened.
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  Speaker 2: It was no big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Liam Cohen said just as much in his postgame yesterday
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  Speaker 1: at Tottenham Stadium.
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  Speaker 4: The kickoff return happens, and you got one second on
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  Speaker 4: the clock, and before they iced him, it was probably
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  Speaker 4: Deham's best snap of the day.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he put it right on the button. I'm like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 5: here we go. Competitive greatness. Being at your best when
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  Speaker 5: your best is required. Here we go. And then snap
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  Speaker 5: goes up. Logan puts it down.
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  Speaker 4: And then, you know, arguably one of the most talented
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  Speaker 4: guys in the league, you know, comes up with a
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  Speaker 4: clutch kick and a clutch moment.
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  Speaker 5: So, yeah, it was to deserve to win. You know,
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  Speaker 5: who knows?
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  Speaker 4: Got to go watch the tape. But proud of this group.
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  Speaker 1: You know, John, you and I were sitting, I think,
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  Speaker 1: about the 35-yard line yesterday at Tottenham behind– where Cam
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  Speaker 1: attempted the kick, and I saw him running the other way.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that he didn't even see the kick
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  Speaker 1: go through the uprights. I saw that through the magic
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  Speaker 1: of social media today. He kicked it, just saw that
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  Speaker 1: it was good, just enough on track, and then turned
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  Speaker 1: and ran to the Philly fans in the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you run for two reasons. Either if
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  Speaker 3: you miss it, you want to get out of there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But I thought out of a myriad of cool moments,
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  Speaker 3: and there were a lot of great stories yesterday– Cam's joy,
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  Speaker 3: and he grew up a soccer fan. He talked about
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: it seven or eight minutes after the game with the media.
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  Speaker 3: Just his joy and the joy that he always brings
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  Speaker 3: to it. Sometimes we talk about this game so much,
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  Speaker 3: and we analyze, and we're trying to figure out the edge,
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  Speaker 3: as they say. Sometimes you forget that it's kids playing
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  Speaker 3: a game, and he really embraced that, embraced the moment.
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  Speaker 3: For old guys like us, Jeff, that's kind of cool
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  Speaker 3: to see, right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't call them kids. Right. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we kind of look at them.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Cam's 23, 24.
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  Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, he's a young guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's a young guy. But I think what is impressive
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  Speaker 2: about Cam is that he's just got this demeanor about him.
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  Speaker 2: And Heath Farwell, I was talking to him before the game,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, and we actually had
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  Speaker 2: the conversation about how fortunate he is to have, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a holder, snapper, kicker that are so talented. And he
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  Speaker 2: said to me before the game, he says, Cam Little's
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  Speaker 2: a killer. I mean, that's the exact terms he used
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 1: Stone cold killer.
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  Speaker 2: And so I said to him, I said, look, I said,
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  Speaker 2: in today's game, okay, every field has a different vibe
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  Speaker 2: and you feel different levels of comfort from where the
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  Speaker 2: kicks are going to go from. I said, where is
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  Speaker 2: he comfortable at? He said, anywhere within this logo. And
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  Speaker 2: if you remember, the field there at Tottenham had the
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  Speaker 2: big NFL shield in the middle. And so when Amir
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  Speaker 2: Abdullah goes down and I see Logan Cook setting up
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  Speaker 2: on the logo, and I was like, As long as
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  Speaker 2: the snap is good, Stone Cold Killer is going.
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  Speaker 3: To nail it. I'm sorry, Brian. He mentioned something in
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  Speaker 3: the postgame that was interesting, too. He was talking to
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  Speaker 3: the British media about soccer a little bit, about technique.
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  Speaker 3: But he sort of mentioned that he is not necessarily
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  Speaker 3: a huge have-to-do-the-same-thing-every-time. You have to, he said. But he's
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  Speaker 3: not quite as much of that as maybe some younger
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  Speaker 3: kickers are. It leads me to think he can adapt,
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  Speaker 3: and yesterday with timing on the snap, he very much
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  Speaker 3: had to adapt. He couldn't just be a machine out there.
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  Speaker 3: He sort of had to adapt what was going on.
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  Speaker 3: He's more of a football player maybe than a kicker.
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  Speaker 1: A footballer, as they say in England. Big thing, too,
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  Speaker 1: uh-oh line. Obviously, Anton Harrison is undergoing some imaging here
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  Speaker 1: in England today for his knee. That's one uh-oh. The
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  Speaker 1: other is that they really struggled on the inside, both
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  Speaker 1: with the noise level in a key moment of the ballgame.
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  Speaker 1: More importantly, with number 98 for the Eagles, Jalen Carter.
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  Speaker 1: He gave them fits, and the head coach talked a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about that when he met with the media
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  Speaker 1: here earlier today.
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  Speaker 4: I thought those guys responded well in the second half.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I thought Jalen Carter was kind of wrecking
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  Speaker 4: shop a little bit in the first half. He made
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  Speaker 4: some really fantastic individual efforts that we knew, you know,
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  Speaker 4: some of his swims and stuff were pretty challenging. And
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  Speaker 4: so he made some plays. I thought we handled him
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  Speaker 4: and the front better in the second half. You know, protection-wise,
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  Speaker 4: for the most part of the day, I didn't think
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  Speaker 4: it was too bad. Like, we held down the ball
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  Speaker 4: a little bit long on a few when we did get–
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  Speaker 4: the strip sacks, and I thought we just settled down
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more in the second half as a group.
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  Speaker 3: You choose.
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  Speaker 1: You want to talk about Carter or you want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about where the offensive line goes with potentially losing
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  Speaker 1: Anton Harrison for some period of time?
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  Speaker 2: We'll start with Jalen Carter. I thought there were three
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: guys for the Eagles that played exceptional. It was Ball
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  Speaker 2: and the linebacker, Cooper Dejean, the nickel slash corner. Last safety,
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  Speaker 2: he does everything. And then Jalen Carter at defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 2: And there's a reason why he makes $ 38 million a year,
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  Speaker 2: which is the highest paid defensive tackle in football. And
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  Speaker 2: the week prior against the Rams, watching him on film,
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  Speaker 2: he was not as effective. He had a cast because
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  Speaker 2: he's got, I guess, a hairline fracture of his wrist.
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  Speaker 2: And the cast made him a little bit timid. And
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  Speaker 2: he comes out for this game against the Jaguars. And
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  Speaker 2: I didn't see the cast.
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  Speaker 3: And I went, oh, he wasn't timid.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: And he was not timid. He played like he had
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with his wrist. He was a dominant player
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: in that game. And And he took turns beating guys.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: He beat Ezra. He beat Cole. He beat Pregnant. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was just he was beating everybody.
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  Speaker 1: He's that good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my understanding is after the first half, Ezra did
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  Speaker 3: a nice job of sort of getting back in it
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  Speaker 3: and at least allowing them to neutralize him a little
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  Speaker 3: bit or survive it, I guess you will. Because sometimes
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  Speaker 3: in this league, when you're playing a guy like this, again,
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: there's a reason that he's what he is. He beats you.
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  Speaker 3: even if you're good, he can beat you. So I
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  Speaker 3: thought it was a game where the Jaguars, against a
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: difficult matchup like that, figured out a way to survive it, Jeff.
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  Speaker 3: And that's sometimes what you have to do in this league.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, and try to get as many hands on a
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  Speaker 2: guy like that as you can. But, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Carter, he's up there with Reggie White, Bruce Smith.
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  Speaker 2: He's the definition of what he'll beat. Yeah, the consistency
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  Speaker 2: for the period of time that Reggie and Bruce have,
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: Jalen Carter hasn't done that, but the way he plays
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  Speaker 2: right now, he's at that level. He's an elite player.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: Archer, how do you overcome the potential loss? We don't
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: know yet on Anton Harrison, but it's safe to think
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: that he might miss at least this next game and
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: maybe some time beyond that. Walker Little steps in. He's
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: played a lot of football for you at a couple
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: of different positions. How do you feel about where the
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: line is?
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, with Anton, watching that replay in
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: the monitor, it didn't look good. And I don't want
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: to speculate, but I've seen that kind.
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: Of move before.
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  Speaker 1: You've had that injury yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's going to end well. And
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  Speaker 2: Anton was a guy that was progressing towards, okay, leave
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: him one-on-one. You feel like he can block almost anybody.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if you have that level of
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: comfort with Walker Little or not. I would say no.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: So I think as a coordinator, as a game planner,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: as a schemer, you've got to do things a little
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: bit differently because if you see a top-end player cross
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  Speaker 2: from your left tackle, you have to approach it differently
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  Speaker 2: with Anton not in the lineup.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to help him a little bit. Anton
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  Speaker 3: has been playing pretty well the last few weeks and
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: getting a lot better. I get questions all the time.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: In the offseason, why don't you trade player X? Why
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: don't you trade player Y? Got that question a lot
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  Speaker 3: about Walker Little. This is why, when you're a contending team,
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: that you keep good players. Because, look, he's not as
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: good as Anton Harrison, or he would be starting. But
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: he's got a lot of reps, and you can trust
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  Speaker 3: him more than you could a normal backup. It's good
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  Speaker 3: to have depth, Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: Let's wrap up big things with this. I started with 19.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: which was the number of points the Jaguars surrendered in
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter last year in Houston, which is just
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit of flavor for Sunday's game. But I
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: decided to start today, on Monday, with 25, which is
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  Speaker 1: the number of rushing yards the Jaguars have allowed in
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: their last two games. One of just seven teams in
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era to hold two teams back-to-back to
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: 25 rushing yards or fewer. The last team to do
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: it was Baltimore in 2019. In other words, it doesn't
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: happen very often. They're playing at a very high level...
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  Speaker 1: And on Sunday, they get a Houston team that's averaging
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: less than 58 rushing yards per game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you've got to give credit. You start, I think,
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  Speaker 2: with Devon Hamilton and how well he's playing up front.
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  Speaker 2: But then you have two defensive ends that arguably are
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: the two best run defending defensive ends in football in
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker and Josh Hines-Allen. And if you look at
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: the stat sheet, there probably wasn't a number that you went, wow,
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: Josh Hines-Allen, look at all the numbers that he had.
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  Speaker 2: He played. A monster game against the run and as
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: a pass rusher. Kudos to 41, man. He worked his
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: tail off in that game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care who's playing running back. Holding a
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: team to less than 25 yards in the NFL is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: We've said it all along, meaning all along since camp
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: got here, stopping the run is the key to it.
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  Speaker 3: They were good last year. They're dominant right now. When you...
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: see another team run for four or five yards on
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  Speaker 3: this team right now, you're thinking, what went wrong? And
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: that's good run defense in the NFL right now. It's
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: so key, guys, to when you stop a team for
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: two yards on first down, you're facing second and eight.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: The difference in this league right now between that and
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: second and five is so big. It's the key to everything.
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  Speaker 3: It's why they have so many turnovers. It's why they're
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: so good defensively. This is an elite, elite, I'm going
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: to say generational. We're not there yet. But in the
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: last four or five years, this is as good as
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: any team's played to run.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and let me mention Ventrell Miller because, you know,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of conversation about how do you
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: replace Devin Lloyd in the offseason, and I think he
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: got a linebacker at the will position now that's playing
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: to run better than Devin Lloyd. I mean, there was
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: one particular play, and I'll never forget the center's coming out,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: and Ventrell Miller comes up and just smacks him right
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: under the chin. And he kind of stumbles back. You
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: could see the center's reaction. He was almost like a
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: fighter that just got a KO punch. He kind of
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: stumbles back. He's like, how can that little guy just
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: knock me back like that? And then he comes up
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: and Ventrell just throws the guy aside and then comes
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: up and makes a hit for a gain of like
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: a half a yard. I mean, how many linebackers in
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: the league can smash an offensive lineman in the face,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: throw him aside, and then make a tackle at a
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  Speaker 2: half of a yard? Not many.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: So many people want to talk about what this defense isn't,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: talk about the pass rush, whatever. It's not a bad
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  Speaker 3: pass rush. Let's worry about what they are, which is
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: really good.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Those are your big things brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by GEHA, Government Employees Health Association. This is Jags AM
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: from the Grove outside of London. When we return, we'll
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: get these guys' perspective on some highlights from Sunday's victory
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jags AM. You've seen the highlights. Probably
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  Speaker 1: seen them all over social media, but you haven't heard
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  Speaker 1: John and Jeff give you their perspective on what they
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  Speaker 1: saw yesterday at Tottenham Stadium. So let's start with the
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  Speaker 1: opening kickoff. I was looking down at something when the
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: ball was kicked. I didn't see this. The next thing
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  Speaker 1: I look up, and there goes Josh Cameron, and then
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: in the near ground is Trotter and Brian Thomas Jr.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I Branson Combs is holding here?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: It was a terrible call on Branson Combs. The defensive
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: lineman for the Philadelphia Eagles is power-pushing Branson Combs and
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: just bullrushes him and knocks him over. There was no
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: hold involved at all. Now, the offsetting penalties, that's legitimate
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  Speaker 2: with Brian Thomas Jr. and Jeremiah Trotter Jr., But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it was crazy. But a very bad call. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that's two bad calls in a row because Quentin Morris
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  Speaker 2: got a kick return that was called that from a hold,
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  Speaker 2: and that was a bad call.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I was thinking, John, is, uh-oh.
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  Speaker 1: This is an omen from the beginning. The opening kickoff
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  Speaker 1: for the Jags is a success in that it isn't.
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  Speaker 3: Well, think about what they overcame yesterday. Two red zone,
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  Speaker 3: not scoring, this taken away. The Jaguars outplayed this team
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  Speaker 3: for the most part. Didn't get the break. Josh Cameron
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: is really, really good and might be one of their
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: best players on offense right now. He's a good player.
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  Speaker 2: He's dead on. i mean you can't say enough about
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: josh cameron because there's nothing that's too big for him
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  Speaker 2: and that's very rare to find with a rookie and a.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Sixth round pick as well we're not talking about you.
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  Speaker 3: You can take off all the qualifiers For two or
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  Speaker 3: three weeks I've been saying, well, he's really good for
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  Speaker 3: a six-round pick, really good for a rookie.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's really good no matter where he was selected.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing that he doesn't have, can you imagine
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  Speaker 2: if he had great speed?
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  Speaker 1: Well, then he would have been a first-round pick.
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  Speaker 2: Holy cow.
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  Speaker 1: The only reason I qualify it as a six-round pick
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  Speaker 1: is the expectation for him to come in and contribute
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  Speaker 1: his first year would be lower than someone who was
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  Speaker 1: taken on day one or even day two.
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  Speaker 2: How about the pass that he caught crossing the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the field in what might have been the smallest
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  Speaker 2: window that Trevor had all day?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: With two defenders, and Josh doesn't even, it's like it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't phase him at all.
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  Speaker 1: So let's go to the third quarter, and this is
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  Speaker 1: a Cam Littlefield goal. It's the first one where he
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: is going to be kicking from the hold of Logan Cook,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: but the snap of Devon Hamilton. He makes this one. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: trust me, he makes this one, right? We got the
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  Speaker 1: indicator there that it was going to be high. We
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  Speaker 1: saw the athleticism and the instincts and the value of
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  Speaker 1: having a guy like Logan Cook to be able to
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  Speaker 1: manage that process.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, years ago, and John, you'll know, longtime special teams
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  Speaker 2: coordinator Joe DeCamillis told me, said that Logan Cook is
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  Speaker 2: the best holder in the National Football League. And at
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  Speaker 2: the time, I'm like, well, does it really matter that much? Well,
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  Speaker 2: it does, and this was the perfect game to illustrate that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's– I don't know– and I even lost sight
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  Speaker 3: of it yesterday. Backup long snapper. I was saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: what are they doing? Why are they going for it?
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: You know, wondered what Liam was thinking in the moment.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, oh, that's right. Backup long snapper
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: makes it really difficult. The op, as Liam said, is
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  Speaker 3: so difficult when you have the long snapper. Any points
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: you get when you have the backup long snapper– I'm
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: not going to say it's bonus, but they're difficult and
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  Speaker 3: they're hard-earned. And credit to them for getting it yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder, are they not going to start working on
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  Speaker 2: another backup long snapper? Because I remember when I was
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: playing in New York, they asked me to be an
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: emergency backup long snapper. Why not ask Porkisher or Tanner Koziel?
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Just to have another guy kind of waiting in the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: wings that may be better than Devon Hamilton. Because what
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: would have happened if Devon Hamilton... was knocked out of
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  Speaker 2: that game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think they said, uh, linebacker, um, I'm
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  Speaker 3: drawing a blank. Liam talked about it in the podium. Uh, no, uh, new, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. He would, he mentioned that he might be.
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  Speaker 3: So, um, it's, it's funny whenever they're asked about it.
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  Speaker 3: And I asked him on this, on the ozone podcast
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  Speaker 3: last year, after he had snapped against Tennessee, well, how
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: much do you work at? And then can I say, well,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: a little bit during walkthrough, occasionally it, It's not something
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  Speaker 3: you rep a lot, but maybe you have to.
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  Speaker 2: He told me, okay, he told me yesterday after the game.
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  Speaker 2: I asked him directly, how many reps did you have
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  Speaker 2: during the week to get ready to be a short
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  Speaker 2: and long snapper? His answer, none.
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  Speaker 1: And I asked him right after that, if you recall,
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  Speaker 1: what was your heart rate like at that moment? He goes,
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  Speaker 1: it was fine.
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  Speaker 2: It was chill.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was chill.
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  Speaker 3: Devon's always going to be cool now.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, he is. So let's skip ahead a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: and let's go to the third quarter. And the Jaguars
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: got to the goal line or near it on a
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: beautiful 27-yard throw, right? I mean, beautiful because Trevor is
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: running up out of the pocket to his left now.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: And the right-handed quarterback threaded the needle perfectly. And the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Jaguars get the ball down there first and goal. They've
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: got an opportunity here to do something. And then they're
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: backed up. On that drive, five penalties. Five penalties on
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: one drive. And, well, let's just let the film, as
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: they say, show you the reaction by the quarterbacks. I
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: think maybe I've thrown something at them that has the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: production crew at home slamming the football down. Like, why
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: is Sexton doing that? You've all seen it. And that
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  Speaker 1: was just the anger, the level of just disgust, John,
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  Speaker 1: in the quarterback's response.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, they were frustrated because they had been,
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  Speaker 3: they had 408 yards of offense. They were inside the
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: five twice. They were moving the ball, just couldn't close
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  Speaker 3: the door. And they knew it was a big moment.
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  Speaker 3: You're down by four.
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  Speaker 1: It's crucial.
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  Speaker 3: Some people criticize Trevor for not caring enough. It's always
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: been a ridiculous criticism. Look, that's a frustrating moment for
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  Speaker 3: a quarterback because they know how important the moment is.
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  Speaker 1: That was Mahomes' ask right there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, as mad as Liam Cohen was
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: in that situation, I'll bet you, I'll bet you dinner, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: With a really nice bottle of wine. Okay. Here in London.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Johnny, you want a part of this too? As far as.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: He'll just tag along. Okay. I'll bet you that Liam
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  Speaker 2: Cohen was inside going, I love the emotion out of
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  Speaker 2: my quarterback in that moment. I mean, because, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's been trying to work with Trevor about the leadership
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  Speaker 2: and being a little bit more demonstrative. And that's exactly
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  Speaker 2: what you like to see.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody was mad as me on the next play when
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he had to sail it out of the back of
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  Speaker 1: the end zone. They had two first and goals that
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: they walk away with no points. Listen, the odds of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: you winning when you miss a red zone opportunity to
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: score points is dramatically lower.
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  Speaker 2: Twice. Unbelievably.
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  Speaker 1: But first and goal at the one and you don't score?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. How did one of them get
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: set up? Brenton Strange trying to dive, right? If you
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: go back, watch that play. What happens if Brenton just
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: cuts back to the inside?
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  Speaker 1: He scores.
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  Speaker 2: Touchdown.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: All right, so let's get to the Jaguars scoring here
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Fourth down and five. Kudos to
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the defense. They came up with a huge stop. Third down,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: pardon me, three and out, and they have to punt.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Jags get the ball back, and they drive, but they
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: come up against the stone wall that had at times
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: been that Eagles defense. And on fourth and five, the
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  Speaker 1: throw has gotten a lot of accolades today. The catch,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: even more rightfully so. But the situation, fourth down and five,
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  Speaker 1: and the offensive line, as we'll see here, Look at
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the time that Trevor has to throw against a five-man rush.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great pocket. And look, Vic Fangio,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I think, did a really good job, for the most part,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: of dialing up what he needed to do. And man
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: coverage seemed to be the recipe that he wanted to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: go back to. And Parker Washington did a great job
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: of just a subtle separation. Reek Wolin, who's a very
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: long corner, is very difficult to throw over. But if
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: you actually... look at the little two frames back he
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: kind of has this gentle push right in the hip
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: area of reek woolen that's perfect.
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  Speaker 3: It's what you have to do when you're playing a
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: defense like this that at times is rattling you uh
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: maybe rattle is not the right word but they're getting
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: pressure and they're a great defensive front um you have
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: to have the moment where you get it blocked and
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the quarterback has to trust it at that moment it
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: was a uh you know i don't say it's forgotten
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  Speaker 3: But it's one of the biggest three or four plays
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  Speaker 3: of this season right now because you don't win this
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: game without that play.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And here's the craziest thing. Parker Washington works on that
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: every day in practice. One-handed catches. You guys have seen it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: He literally works on one-handed catches all the time.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And boy, did it pay off. Jaguars missed the extra
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: point on that one. Obviously, the high snap that had
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: everybody on the sideline feeling a little uneasy like this
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: one could come back to haunt them. And it nearly did.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: But before we get there, we talked about the pass rush.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: It's good. It isn't. great necessarily at least not numerically
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: but it was on that next series the Jaguars got
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the Eagles off three and out again and Jeff narrate
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  Speaker 1: this for us.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Well you got pressure coming there and that's Antonio Johnson
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: who last year had a couple sacks and I thought
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: he had a an excellent game provided a lot of
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: leadership there in the back end and it was kind
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: of a race to the quarterback with him and Trayvon
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Walker there and Trayvon by the way I just want
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: to point something out His effort on the last Eagles
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  Speaker 2: drive where they went ahead was unbelievable. Unbelievable. I mean,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: like a man possessed. And so give him a lot
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of credit. But the defense overall on this drive, they
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: were just fantastic. And you just wish that the offense
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: was able to eat some more game clock up once
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: they got it.
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  Speaker 1: They got it back, and it was three and out.
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  Speaker 1: They have to punt. This is when you're starting to
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: get nervous now. Parker Washington did a really good job
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: on that punt return of making sure they got below
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: the two-minute warning so that they didn't get an extra stoppage, right?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: that the Eagles didn't get a play in. And time
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: management was such a big part of this because if Lemon,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the rookie receiver for the Eagles, doesn't run out of bounds,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: maybe the Jaguars don't even get a shot, right? But
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the way that it all rolls out, here's the field
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: goal that electrified, absolutely electrified Tottenham Stadium on Sunday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: It was the 48-yarder from the Eagles, and Jake Elliott
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: thinks he's got the game winner here. From 48 yards away, John,
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  Speaker 1: it seemed like a foregone conclusion.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, everything about our football since, we've
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: all been watching this or playing it forever, says the
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  Speaker 3: game's over. And it wasn't.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 2: I made the comment in our radio broadcast that there's
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: not going to be another Heidi game. I mean, but
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: just because, I mean, do you think that there's no
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: chance that something can go right to where you win?
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  Speaker 2: And it did.
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  Speaker 3: There was a 1% chance.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Well, and as you said. John.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Is that what the analytics say?
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or is it 1% or is it. something?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to know what it actually was. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's got to be somewhere at 1% or below and like. 0, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if anyone will know, it will be Heath Farwell.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: So we'll find the Jaguars special teams coordinator when we
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: get off the air and ask him. However, John, you
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: said it. There really was only one way. Right. One
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: way for the Jaguars to win this game. And the
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: fact that they were able to do it. So let's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: roll the highlight and you narrate over it. The fact
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: that they were able to. get this one play 35 yards.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: If if the ball goes out of bounds or in
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: the end zone becomes a lot tougher great blocking jeff
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: uh everything had to happen at the same moment and
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: then he had to have the wherewithal and again he
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: was getting tackled so i don't know if you know
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: uh he said on the zoom call today that he
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: was trying to figure out whether to go down but
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  Speaker 3: a great job by a heady.
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  Speaker 1: Player, Jeff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he set it up. He starts to the right.
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  Speaker 2: He sets up his three blocks to his right or
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to the outside, then he cuts back inside of that.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: He's got a great double team on the inside. He's
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: got one man to essentially make miss, and that's the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: kicker to be able to get a chance at it,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and he makes a great move on the kicker.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: And did you see that When he went down, there
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: was an Eagles staffer, a coach, or someone from the
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: side of the team running out to midfield like, hey,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: this one is over. I don't know whether you saw
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: it on your replay. Somebody had to probably go and go,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it's not.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it because you know what I did?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: As soon as he hit the ground, I turned and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: looked at the clock, and I saw one second, and
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: then it ticked off, and I went, one second, one second,
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  Speaker 2: one second.
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  Speaker 3: And then you really thought, I mean, it showed you
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: how much the league has changed and how much Cam
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Little is in our psyche. As soon as.
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  Speaker 3: You saw there was one second left. I'm deleting the
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  Speaker 3: first section of my story that I have to write
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  Speaker 3: for the end of the game, and I'm writing that
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars win because I assumed he was going to
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  Speaker 3: make it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there are your highlights and the particular insight
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  Speaker 1: from John and Jeff on that. We come back, hot takes,
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  Speaker 1: and a look at the AFC South straight ahead here
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  Speaker 1: on Jags AM on a Monday afternoon for us from London.
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  Speaker 1: Jags AM is brought to you by Lowe's. Lowe's, we
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  Speaker 1: And we have hot takes for you. John, we'll start
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  Speaker 1: with you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I went with super teams have games like this.
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  Speaker 3: And I said it last week after the Bengals game.
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  Speaker 3: You don't build 12-5, 13-4 seasons like this. on 12
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  Speaker 3: or 13 blowouts. There are some times in this league
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  Speaker 3: that you have to play and get yourself in a
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  Speaker 3: situation where you're in it late. You're not always going
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  Speaker 3: to blow teams out. You get in four or five
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  Speaker 3: of those in a year, get three or four of those,
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  Speaker 3: and now you've got a memorable season. I covered the
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  Speaker 3: Colts during one of the most successful runs that any
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  Speaker 3: team's ever had regular season. A lot of weird, fluky comebacks.
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  Speaker 3: but they were a good organization that got themselves in
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  Speaker 3: position late to win. I thought that was a very
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  Speaker 3: typical kind of game, Jeff, that great teams have. Figured
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: out a way to win at the end. Sure, they
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: could have lost, but they figured out a way. They
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: kept themselves in it. Old Jaguars teams wouldn't have been
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  Speaker 3: in it. So you keep yourself in it, and then
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  Speaker 3: you figure out a way to win it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the old term, any given Sunday. You heard Liam
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  Speaker 2: talking about that kind of repeatedly leading up to that
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  Speaker 2: game and And the Eagles played well. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we kind of went into that game, I think, not
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  Speaker 2: giving the Eagles enough credit.
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  Speaker 1: That's absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: Just because they had backups. But it's the NFL. It's
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  Speaker 2: not college.
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  Speaker 3: But don't forget, they had the Rams down the week before.
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  Speaker 3: The Rams were good. And the Eagles had them down.
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  Speaker 2: Ten-point lead.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And they didn't have Saquon or Devontae Smith in
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that situation either.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, look, you only play the games that
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you can play. And you take every win that you
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: can get.
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  Speaker 1: And when you win it like that, with eight seconds left–
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: kidding me.
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  Speaker 2: That's i mean to me one second left i mean
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  Speaker 2: to me that's that that makes the moment you know
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  Speaker 2: of the entire game i mean and there's my hot take.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say it leads right to it go
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  Speaker 1: this is why.
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  Speaker 2: The nfl is number one i mean when you have
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: games that are like that that's the games that endear
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  Speaker 2: fans to teams and fans to the sport itself And
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: this is a do-you-remember-when moment.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt.
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  Speaker 2: Okay? And, look, there's a lot of things that have
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: happened through the history of time, and you can kind
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: of go back and say, hey, look, where was I
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: at when Morton Anderson missed that kick? Where was I
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: at when this happened? You know, and it doesn't necessarily
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: just involve football, but it's big moments, and then you
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: start to relate life circumstances and moments to that big
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: moment that the Jaguars had. And this is what grows
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  Speaker 2: your fan base to, at some point, Down the road,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: you're going to look back and have all these great memories,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and it's why you support and love the team that
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: you love.
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  Speaker 3: Well said.
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  Speaker 1: I had a security guard down underneath outside the Jags
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  Speaker 1: locker room as I was waiting to go in last
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: night say, do you have many games like this? And
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I said, not that I can recall. Now I know
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: that I should have said to him, no, there's never
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: been a game like this, ever. I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: my hot take, and it's this one matters more. Listen.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I know they're 1-4 and they haven't played great football,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: but they're coming in thinking they can beat you on
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Sunday because they beat you down 19 in the fourth quarter.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: These are two teams, and in an age of free
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: agency where guys know each other and coaches go back
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and forth, I'm not sure that you have the rivalries
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: that you, I mean the fans, absolutely. But I really
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: believe in this case that the Texans think that the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: AFC South is theirs and the Jaguars got them last
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: year because they won out as the Texans won out
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  Speaker 1: and time ran out on them. But I think they're
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: coming in here thinking they're going to get their season
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  Speaker 1: back if they beat you on Sunday. I think this
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  Speaker 1: one matters more than yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt about what you are
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: talking about, about their belief. And prior to their game
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: this past weekend against Tennessee, you have D'Amico Ryans returning
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: to the role of play caller. And they wanted to
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: do something different. Obviously, when you're not winning, you try
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: something different. And so now all of a sudden you've
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: got division rivals getting ready to clash heads, and you've
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: got two head coaches that are going to be matching wits,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: calling plays in this game. I mean, even more reason
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: for a little bit of rivalry to heat up.
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  Speaker 1: John, you've seen the AFC South from a couple of
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: different perspectives. Jacksonville, obviously, and your time in Indianapolis. I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: don't know that in the South there has been the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: sort of fierce rivalry going For the Jaguars, there's been
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: a competitive rivalry. For the Jags? Yeah, for the Jags.
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  Speaker 1: Until right now, because remember, the Titans thing started in
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the old AFC Central, and the Steelers were involved in that,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: and the Ravens were involved in that. But in the South,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: as it exists right now, I think this is emerging
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  Speaker 1: as we don't like them, and they don't like us.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you only have rivals if you hurt the other team,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: and both teams hurt each other. Jaguars really haven't been
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: good enough until this section. I mean, they were good
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: in 17. But they haven't been good enough to bother
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  Speaker 3: enough people. Well, the Texans and the Jags bother each other.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go.
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  Speaker 3: That's where the fun starts.
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  Speaker 2: And there's history now. They've got a linebacker who will
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: remain nameless.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not faceless.
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  Speaker 2: Just kind of increase the ante into this rivalry.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we've got one more segment. We'll take a
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: look at the AFC South, in particular the standings, when
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: we return to wrap up this edition of Jags AM
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  Speaker 1: South standings. Jags in first place at 4-1. And thanks
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: to the Steelers, they have a two-game lead right now
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: over the Indianapolis Colts. Steelers beat the Colts yesterday. And
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: obviously you see Houston with their win over the Titans.
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  Speaker 1: We can leave the Titans out of the conversation. But
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  Speaker 1: 4-1 is nice. 5-1 and 1-5 on the third-place team
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  Speaker 1: there would be even better if the Jags can get
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday in Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's looking too far ahead, but I guess that's
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: what we're doing is looking ahead.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why not?
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  Speaker 3: You've also got the Colts coming out of the bye
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: at home. So if you win your next two, you've
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: got a chance. It's far too early in the NFL
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: to say it's all behind you. But you've got a
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: chance to make them seem very far behind you. And
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: you haven't played in the division yet. So this is
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  Speaker 3: where it starts getting real.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward. I'm focusing on this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm keeping all my attention on the Houston Texans because
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: they deserve that respect. And I expect Wembley to be
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: very unlike Tottenham and that it will be very pro
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Jaguar because that's that's the second home of the Jaguars
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: is Wembley. And the Houston Texans fans, I don't think,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: travel very well. And I think it's going to be
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: a fantastic environment.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are going to have to play their best football
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. They've been playing good
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: enough in certain situations. They're going to have to play
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: really good to beat the Houston Texans on Sunday. Strange
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: as that may sound for a 1-4 football team, they
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: have a schedule that is advantageous coming ahead. They think
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: if they can get a win here, They can restart
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and get themselves to 5-5, and then they're back in
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the game.
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  Speaker 2: Don't let them.
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  Speaker 1: You let them do it last year when you let
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: them come back from 19 points.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: They have arguably the best defensive player right now in football,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Will Anderson, Jr.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: And might have the best defense in football.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: And the other guy's pretty good, too, on the other
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: defensive end spot. And with the Jaguars having Anton Harrison
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: being evaluated right now with Walker.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Little, Yeah, there's some work to do.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: We've got the whole week here in London with the Jaguars.
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• 44:19
  Speaker 1: fine program. Have a great afternoon, everybody. Jags are 4-1.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: We're still reveling in it here in London. I hope
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you are back home in Jacksonville.