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Full Show Podcast: 02 June 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: This is the issues. The interviews and the insight wereman
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  Speaker 1: travers on Early Editions with Spark for business technology that
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  Speaker 1: keeps business moving news talks.
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  Speaker 2: There'd be good morning, Welcome to Early Edition. I'm Francesca
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  Speaker 2: Rudkin filling in for Ryan Bridge this morning. Hope you've
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  Speaker 2: had a great long weekend. There's a lot of rain
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  Speaker 2: out there to take care this morning. You're most welcome
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  Speaker 2: to contact me anytime throughout the morning Flicker text on
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  Speaker 2: ninety two eighty two, or you can email me at
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  Speaker 2: Francesca at newstalksb dot co dot zead. On the show today,
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  Speaker 2: a horror weekend on the roads reminds us we have
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  Speaker 2: a long way to go when it comes to dealing
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  Speaker 2: with the road toll. Our business correspondent looks at how
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  Speaker 2: the u EU is attempting to counter a surge in
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  Speaker 2: Chinese imports and before the end of the hour, where
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  Speaker 2: has a seven hundred and fifty million for learning support
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  Speaker 2: gone as teachers struggle to deal with a rise in
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  Speaker 2: students needing to be restrained.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, the second of June. Israeli military has warned
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  Speaker 2: Southern Bay Route residents to evacuate after Benjamin Nikiya, who
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  Speaker 2: ordered strikes on terrorist targets in the Libanese capital. John
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  Speaker 2: said worth from Beirut.
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  Speaker 3: Political leaders in Israel have made it very clear that
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  Speaker 3: they see this as a Hezbollah stronghold. Certainly, when we
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  Speaker 3: drove in here, the people streaming in the other direction,
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  Speaker 3: cars packed with the longings of children. Those who we
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  Speaker 3: spoke too, stuck in traffic jams trying to get out,
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  Speaker 3: would tell us that they were supporters of Hezbolla, that
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  Speaker 3: leaving for their own safety. So far, no sign of
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  Speaker 3: the strikes yet, but everybody here expecting them to have
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  Speaker 3: an imminently.
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  Speaker 2: The reports from Aram says the government will pause in
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  Speaker 2: direct negotiations with the you is due to the texts
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  Speaker 2: on Lebanon. Iranian authorities said early on Lebanon should be
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  Speaker 2: included in the negotiations.
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  Speaker 4: Now that Israel has decided to expand its operations and
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  Speaker 4: attack inside Lebanon, that has frustrated Iranians. So from today morning,
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  Speaker 4: many Ranian authorities basically echoing one another he should state
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  Speaker 4: and condemn these attacks. For example, where their foreign minister
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  Speaker 4: said that we insist that a ceasfire in Lebanon should
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  Speaker 4: get intagroled part of any final agreement between Tehran and Washington.
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  Speaker 2: And the goat is back. Here come Serena.
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  Speaker 5: Serena Williams enter center court. She's arguably the greatest women's player.
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  Speaker 6: Of all time.
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  Speaker 5: Where it's icon, legends, role model, inspiration and goats have
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  Speaker 5: all been used when taught you about Serena Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Forty four year old Serena Williams has announced her return
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  Speaker 2: to pro tennis after a four year absence. She's set
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  Speaker 2: to play in next week's HSBC Championships at Queen's Club.
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  Speaker 2: And a twenty one year old university student has saved
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  Speaker 2: the day at a Sydney performance of Lana Land Show
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  Speaker 2: composer Justin Hurwitz was forced to ask the audience if
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  Speaker 2: anyone could play piano after his keyboardist fell ill halfway
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  Speaker 2: through the show. Sterling Nasa stepped up and impressed the
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  Speaker 2: Oscar winning composer until.
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  Speaker 5: He started playing.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't know how it was going to go like.
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  Speaker 8: I was very nervous, but I'm trying it just like
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  Speaker 8: you know, trust it, have fun with it.
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  Speaker 4: As soon as he starts playing, like I was out of.
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  Speaker 1: Fast, hearrett first. Francesca Rudkin on early edition with Spark
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  Speaker 1: for business technology that keeps business moving. News Talk said, b.
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  Speaker 2: It's nine past five. So I got into work yesterday
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  Speaker 2: morning and I was having a look through the King's
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  Speaker 2: Birthday honors and aside from a few names I recognize,
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  Speaker 2: including our own Barry Soopa, who we are very very
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  Speaker 2: proud has been made an Officer of the New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: Order of Merit for services to journalism, it was mostly
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  Speaker 2: a list of people I had never heard of, and
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  Speaker 2: I thought to myself, how good is this? This is
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  Speaker 2: the way it's supposed to be. One of the main
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  Speaker 2: criticisms is that the honors list can favor well known
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  Speaker 2: individuals over those who kind of work quietly behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: And I know some believe the system and its association
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  Speaker 2: with the King is outdated, but I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: that detracts from the purpose of this list. Have a
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  Speaker 2: look through the list. The honors are awarded to people
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  Speaker 2: from many different ethnicities, grounds and sectors from all over
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  Speaker 2: the country. Some might be well known in their fields
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  Speaker 2: or communities, but they just kind of get on with
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  Speaker 2: the job, you know, in the way that kiwis do.
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  Speaker 2: So the New Zealand Honors list might not be perfect,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it does remain a significant way of
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  Speaker 2: recognizing achievement and service in New Zealand because we're a
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  Speaker 2: pretty modest slot, maybe not always the best. It's celebrating
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  Speaker 2: achievement and success and this is a really nice way
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  Speaker 2: of being able to do it, and it's important to
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  Speaker 2: do so because when we publicly acknowledge these people, we
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  Speaker 2: highlight the positive impact that individuals can have on communities,
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  Speaker 2: and my goodness, we need strong communities more than ever
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  Speaker 2: these days. And they show that hard work and dedication
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  Speaker 2: are valued. So you know, I think we should just
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  Speaker 2: get over the fact that systems might not quite be perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations to all those awarded yesterday. It's nice to know
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  Speaker 2: your names. Today you most welcome to text anytime throughout
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  Speaker 2: the morning. On ninety two, ninety two, it's eleven past
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  Speaker 2: five year withs early edition.
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  Speaker 1: Before the news breaks Here at first. Francesca Rudgin on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with Spark for business technology that keeps business moving,
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  Speaker 1: news talks dead.
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  Speaker 2: Be good to have you with us right. A sobering
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  Speaker 2: reminder that there's still plenty of work to do to
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  Speaker 2: prevent deaths on our roads, with the holiday road toll
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  Speaker 2: finishing at six am this morning. The long weekend toll
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  Speaker 2: sits at seven. It came after a horror crash on
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  Speaker 2: the Desert Road early on Monday morning. The road toll
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  Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six date is now over one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty deaths. The AA's road safety spokesperson Dylan Thompson
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  Speaker 2: is with me now. Good morning, Dylan, thanks for your time.
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  Speaker 7: Morning Francesca.
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  Speaker 2: So the worst King's Birthday weekend in a decade. How
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  Speaker 2: big of a reminder is that? To us all.
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  Speaker 7: A tragically sad one. And in the bigger picture, our
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  Speaker 7: road safety stats in New Zealand have actually been getting
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  Speaker 7: better over recent years. We've had some of our lowest
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  Speaker 7: rates of road deaths pretty much, but at the same
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  Speaker 7: time it's still something that kells about three hundred people
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  Speaker 7: every year and is much worse than other countries. So
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  Speaker 7: we're improving. But this weekend just shows how a few
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  Speaker 7: little moments can destroy people's.
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  Speaker 2: Lives, Dylan. Too many people have lost loved ones this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want to focus on the particular of
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  Speaker 2: the crashes from this weekend because we don't know the circumstances,
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  Speaker 2: but is it clear some people still aren't taking the
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  Speaker 2: basic safety precautions on our roads.
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  Speaker 7: Well, we actually recently completed some research from our AA
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  Speaker 7: Research Foundation looking at fatal crashes, and what it showed
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  Speaker 7: was about half involve what we call reckless and extreme behavior,
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  Speaker 7: So that's your drunk driving, drugged driving, unlicensed drivers, and
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  Speaker 7: rarely excessive speed. But another half involved people who are
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  Speaker 7: generally following the rules and making a mistake at the
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  Speaker 7: wrong time, in the wrong place and having tragic outcomes
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  Speaker 7: from it. So for me, you know, that research really
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  Speaker 7: shows how we can't just focus on fatal crashes as
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  Speaker 7: being about the people not wearing seat belts, driving drunk driving,
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  Speaker 7: you know, ridiculously, Yes, that is a big chunk of
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  Speaker 7: the problem. But also we need to focus on every
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  Speaker 7: day driving and recognize that there's actually a lot of
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  Speaker 7: things we could all do better even when we are
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  Speaker 7: generally following the rules, to help improve our roads and
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  Speaker 7: meanless people end up hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So I was going to say, we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: two different things here. Are we're talking about educating people
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  Speaker 2: to make good decisions when they're driving, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: of wed distractions and not speeding and things, and are
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  Speaker 2: we talking about the other things which can contribute, like
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  Speaker 2: safer roads, safer cars, lower speed limits.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, all of the above. So there is no one
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  Speaker 7: solution here and certainly better quality roads is a big
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  Speaker 7: difference between between New Zealand and other countries with how
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  Speaker 7: basically when things go wrong, whether the consequences are a
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  Speaker 7: death or a lesser injury. And I think just changing
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  Speaker 7: our driving culture and getting people to take driving more
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  Speaker 7: seriously in New Zealand is something we still have a
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  Speaker 7: long way to go on. So that is about distraction,
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  Speaker 7: about fatigue, about following distances, about driving to the conditions.
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  Speaker 7: Lots of times people take too casual an approach in
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  Speaker 7: New Zealand, and as a friend said to be recently,
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  Speaker 7: the reason you need to be a great driver is
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  Speaker 7: because a bunch of other people are on the road
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  Speaker 7: around you won't be.
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  Speaker 2: Why can't we get that message through? We have we
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  Speaker 2: looked at research which tells us the best way to
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  Speaker 2: get through to people into different in different demographics of people.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe that there has been research done and I guess
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  Speaker 7: the short answer is it is. It is hard, and
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  Speaker 7: it takes time, and it's all also about creating the culture.
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  Speaker 7: So your rules and enforcement are a big part of it.
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  Speaker 7: And the AA we think that looking at our driving
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  Speaker 7: fines and penalties and looking at some increases there in
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  Speaker 7: New Zealand is actually something we need to do because
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  Speaker 7: they are low compared to other places. And then it's
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  Speaker 7: about building that culture sort of right from the start
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  Speaker 7: when people are learning to drive that we do take
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  Speaker 7: this seriously, that following the rules matter and staying up
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  Speaker 7: to date with rules and driving behavior is really important.
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  Speaker 7: We think that when people renew their licenses, we could
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  Speaker 7: actually be looking at some refreshers around road rules and
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  Speaker 7: safe behavior on our roads to create that sort of
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  Speaker 7: culture where people are careful, they expect to follow the rules,
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  Speaker 7: that there's consequences if they break the rules, and it
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  Speaker 7: can kind of snowball, and you just get that to
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  Speaker 7: that place where people follow the rules as a matter
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  Speaker 7: of course and are very careful. Whereas at the moment
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  Speaker 7: a bunch of people can think that in New Zealand
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  Speaker 7: it's fine to break the rules a little bit, to
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  Speaker 7: be casual and and that that's just the norm. We've
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  Speaker 7: got to change the norms effectively.
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  Speaker 2: Dylan Thompson, thank you very much. For your thoughts this morning.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that it is eighteen past five. Up next,
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  Speaker 2: we've got our Business Correspondent, News and.
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  Speaker 1: Views you trust to start your day. It's early edition
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  Speaker 1: with Francesca Rudkin and Spark for Business Technology that keeps
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  Speaker 1: Business Moving US talks b.
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  Speaker 2: It is time for our Business correspondent and joining us
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  Speaker 2: now as Vicky Price, chief Economic Advisor at the UK
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  Speaker 2: Center for Economics and Business Research and former UK Government advisor.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, VICKI, Good morning. Okay, So oil prices are
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  Speaker 2: on the way up again giving the uncertainty that we're
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  Speaker 2: seeing in the Middle East, and this is having an
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  Speaker 2: impact on airline stocks.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 9: Absolutely, everyone was worried about this for quite some time.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know how airlines were going to do, particularly
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  Speaker 9: through the summer, which is the sort of top period
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  Speaker 9: at least the summer over here in Europe. And of
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  Speaker 9: course jet fuel had been one of the issues that
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  Speaker 9: everyone was worried about, particularly whether it was going to
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  Speaker 9: be freely available. Prices is shot up and now that's
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  Speaker 9: getting a little bit worse because Russia just announced that
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  Speaker 9: they were going to limit their own or band their
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  Speaker 9: own experts of sort of jet fuel they were still
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  Speaker 9: coming through somehow, and there is an issue about a
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  Speaker 9: lot of the jet fuel that we're using, even if
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  Speaker 9: it's refined somewhere else, it actually comes from Russia and
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  Speaker 9: gets we fined in India, and we've all been quite
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  Speaker 9: for example, we've all been quite open to accepting that
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  Speaker 9: into the sort of whole airline operation system. So that's
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  Speaker 9: going to be a bit of a problem if some
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  Speaker 9: of that, even that type of route is restricted because
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  Speaker 9: we kept that open. In fact, we've extended that in
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  Speaker 9: the UK too in terms of how long we're going
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  Speaker 9: to be prepared to do that. So that's one of the.
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  Speaker 7: Big big is.
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  Speaker 9: And airlines are beginning to also be affected in terms
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  Speaker 9: of this is market value that they have in the stock.
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  Speaker 2: Marketink, you tell me what's happening with the EU. They
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  Speaker 2: are very concerned about the number of Chinese imports coming
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  Speaker 2: into the region and now that Beijing is sort of
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  Speaker 2: threatening to make a move on this, and Beijing has
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  Speaker 2: kind of retaliated.
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  Speaker 9: Well they haven't retaliated quite yet, but they're threatening to
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  Speaker 9: do so. And you're absolutely right. I mean, what is
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  Speaker 9: going on is that the EU has finally realized how
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  Speaker 9: much they're dependent on Chinese imports in all sorts of areas,
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  Speaker 9: including of course in their attempt to move fast towards
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  Speaker 9: net zero, because a lot of things come from whether
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  Speaker 9: it's batteries, whether it's solar panels, all come from China,
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  Speaker 9: and a lot of goods of course coming to Europe
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  Speaker 9: which have had already they think big subsidies given to
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  Speaker 9: them by the Chinese government. So they're under mining the
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  Speaker 9: production that exists in Europe, which is suffering. We've got
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  Speaker 9: some latest data coming out just now which suggests that
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  Speaker 9: May was a pretty bad month for manufacturing in Europe.
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  Speaker 9: Not so bad in the UK, which actually did ok,
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  Speaker 9: certainly in Europe. So they are looking at how they
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  Speaker 9: can perhaps limit some of those imports and the dependence
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  Speaker 9: on China and that type of retaliation, if you like,
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  Speaker 9: which is the way that the Chinese see. This will
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  Speaker 9: lead a thing to China perhaps seeing what they can
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  Speaker 9: do in terms of imports from the U. And that's
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  Speaker 9: going to be a problem for everyone. I mean, we
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  Speaker 9: all want free trade, but Europe thinks that is becoming
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  Speaker 9: very uncompetitive and needs to do something about it.
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  Speaker 2: Vicky Price, thank you so much for your time this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate it very quickly. Actually, if you are nervous about
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  Speaker 2: the fuel diesel, which I know a lot of New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand businesses are hugely reliant on it, there is some
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  Speaker 2: good news. The first of two shipments of New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: diesel reserves is on its way to New Zealand. This
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  Speaker 2: was announced yesterday. The fuel was loaded on the thirty
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  Speaker 2: first of May. It is expected to arrive mid June. Together,
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  Speaker 2: these two shipments represent around nine days of typical diesel
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  Speaker 2: consumption for the company country and this is not going
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  Speaker 2: to count towards the fuel company's minimal stockholding obligations. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be controlled by the Government's a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of good news there on our very own diesel front.
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  Speaker 2: It is at twenty four past five.
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  Speaker 1: Y're with Early Edition the Early Edition Full show podcast
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  Speaker 2: So some good news this morning. If in the weekend
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  Speaker 2: you notice the kids have developed conjunct devices, or you
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  Speaker 2: had an unexpectedly good time over the weekend and now
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  Speaker 2: need the emergency pill or help with UTI. Today is
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  Speaker 2: the day that changes to the services which pharmacists can
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  Speaker 2: provide kicks and meaning pharmacist is going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to provide funding medicines for pain and fever management for children,
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  Speaker 2: oral rehydration, treatment for conditions such as scabies, headlights and
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  Speaker 2: conjunct devices, as well as treatment for uncomplicated you're in
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  Speaker 2: retract infections and emergency conc reception. This is a really
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  Speaker 2: sensible move. Instead of waiting for a GP appointment, paying
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  Speaker 2: for a GP appointment, or paying over the counter prices
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  Speaker 2: for treatments, you can head to your local chemist where
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  Speaker 2: your pharmacist is now funded to provide a consultation and
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  Speaker 2: supply a funder treatment at a low cost. So the
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  Speaker 2: benefits are really obvious, aren't they. Patients can get more
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  Speaker 2: affordable care quickly and close to home while taking pressure
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  Speaker 2: off GPS and emergency departments. Only time will tell how
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  Speaker 2: much this move impacts our overloaded primary care services, but
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  Speaker 2: on paper it looks like a win win for the pharmacies,
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  Speaker 2: GPS and patients. But now it gets a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more interesting and complicated because Associate Health Minister David Seymour
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  Speaker 2: has been driving this change along with the Health Minister
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  Speaker 2: Simon Brown. But Seymour wants to take things further and
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  Speaker 2: allow pharmacies to treat more everyday conditions such as chest
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  Speaker 2: and your infections, help manage long term medication and order
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  Speaker 2: routine blood tests when appropriate, and provide skin lesion triage
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  Speaker 2: and monitoring. Now, Seymour isn't reinventing the wheel with these ideas.
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  Speaker 2: These proposals align with international trends which are seeing healthcare
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  Speaker 2: become more of a team effort. But the further there's
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  Speaker 2: these further proposals will require considerable additional training, strict clinical
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  Speaker 2: guidelines for pharmacists to operate under, and gps will need
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  Speaker 2: to retain overall clinical oversight. I mean, most importantly, pharmacists
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  Speaker 2: would need to know when to treat and when to refer.
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  Speaker 2: So it sounds like a logical next step, but one
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  Speaker 2: which will require a lot more work to get into
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  Speaker 2: action than what is launching today. The management of long
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  Speaker 2: term medications for stable, low risk patients seems the most
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  Speaker 2: easily achievable of all these ideas. Many pharmacists are already
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  Speaker 2: assisting with monitoring, renewals and support. Extending their responsibilities here
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  Speaker 2: could absolutely streamline care and cost for patients. Branching into
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  Speaker 2: diagnosing chest infections or skin cancer would come with greater
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  Speaker 2: risks appropriate antibiotic prescribing and misdiagnoses if pharmacist services are
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  Speaker 2: not well regulated and connected to patients health records. So
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  Speaker 2: today's move is a great use of existing health professionals
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  Speaker 2: to make the system more efficient and affordable. The next
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  Speaker 2: step is going to require careful consideration and considerable investment
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  Speaker 2: to make it work.
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  Speaker 1: Us dogs that'd be.
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  Speaker 2: Very keen to hear your thoughts. You're most welcome to
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  Speaker 2: text on ninety two ninety two Coming up next to
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  Speaker 2: our gotto is a really interesting story in Australia, well
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  Speaker 2: pretty disturbing story actually is emerging. Please say, a thirteen
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  Speaker 2: year old boy has been charged with violent extremist offenses
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  Speaker 2: after posing an imminent threat to a local school. So
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be taking a look at that. News
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  Speaker 2: is next here on early edition.
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  Speaker 1: Francesca Rudkin on early edition with Spark for business technology
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  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving used dogs that'd be I gotcha.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. This is early edition on news Storm ZB.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Francisco Budkin filling in for Ryan today. Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: being with us. A little bit of due leaper for you.
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  Speaker 2: She got married in the weekend. She married actor Callum Turner.
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  Speaker 2: It was a little private number at a town hall
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  Speaker 2: in London, but that is of course before the three
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  Speaker 2: day celebrity celebration in Sicily this week. If you're wondering
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  Speaker 2: who Callum Turner is, he starred in and Chowsen films
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: such as Masters of the Air, Eternity, Fantastic Beats, and
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: he is one of the front runners to become the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: new James Bond. Here we go right and the next
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: half out we head to Australia. We have got a
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: feel good story about a rescued dog. Also, school staff
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: is struggling with an increase in students requiring restraining. So
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: why the rise in incidents and what support is on
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: offer to help teachers deal with the situation. We'll look
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: at that before the end of the hour. Thank you
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: very much for your feedback. Interestingly, most people, quite a
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: few people text to say that the chemists already really busy.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: The good thing is now that the chemist the pharmacist
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: is going to be funded to have consultation with you,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: so hopefully that they might be able to fund a
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: little extra staff if they do get busy. Other people
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: are saying yes, there is quite a difference between a
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: nine infection and a chest infection that they would probably
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: always go to the doctor in that particular case. So
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: thank you for your feedback. Keep the feedback coming in context.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: On ninety two ninety two, Z right, let's head around
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  Speaker 2: the country now and joining us from Dunedin, we have
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Jamie Cunningham. Good morning, Jamie, Morning, Francesca. What's Queenstown been
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: celebrating this weekend?
• 19:34
  Speaker 10: While winter has arrived in full, squen a swing in
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: Queenstown and the town is honoring the earliest ever start
• 19:40
  Speaker 10: to the ski season. Hundreds turned out for Snowfest over
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: the weekend, which featured a cold plunge into Lake Waktepu
• 19:47
  Speaker 10: and a rail jam with sixty athletes. It was made
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: possible by Coronet PEG's new snow factory technology, which produces
• 19:55
  Speaker 10: snow at any air temperature and has enabled skiing to
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: open earlier than ever in Zitski Chief executive Paul Anderson
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: says they're thrilled with the turnout. However, Cornet Peak and
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: the Remarkables will fully open on June thirteenth.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Very exciting. How cold is the lake these days? What
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: is it about? Four five six degrees? I'd hate to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: know not at this time of year. I'm interested. I
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: love it. Andon eating's with it today, Jamie.
• 20:21
  Speaker 10: Cloudy with a few showers about midday. Then fine, southwesterly
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: is developing in a high fifteen.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Claishrewood is with us from christ Church.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Claire, good morning, all right. So what's the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: latest with the Pegasus golf course controversy?
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah, controversy indeed, Wan's here to say the community is
• 20:38
  Speaker 11: activating against this proposal from Wolfbrook Properties to convert the
• 20:41
  Speaker 11: eighty hectare course into housing. Nearly five thousand people have
• 20:45
  Speaker 11: now signed a parliamentary petition opposing that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Residence Group president at Matt James says.
• 20:50
  Speaker 11: The point of this petition is to hopefully stop things
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: moving through the fast track process and therefore removing the
• 20:57
  Speaker 11: voices of the community. That's all happening at the same
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: time as this community meeting is planned tonight at the
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: school hall. There are concerns about how many people might
• 21:06
  Speaker 11: turn up to that. It is a two hundred person
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: capacity hall and organizers are already warning that people will
• 21:11
  Speaker 11: be turned away if that capacity is reached. Whether today
• 21:15
  Speaker 11: in christ Church fine spiles today, there is the old
• 21:17
  Speaker 11: chower expectors northeasterly is turning southwesterly and eighteen degrees.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Claire Adam Cooper is with us
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  Speaker 2: from Wellington. Good morning, morning, frand Hesca. What is happening
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: in this in a hot off Neuer town.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we're talking about Levin Town or the population
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: of around twenty thousand. Now, given it's just over an
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: hour north of Wellington, it's offen a handy first stop
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: off when you're on a road trip heading north on
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: State Highway one that goes right through the town, so
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: plenty of chances to quickly stop by and get whatever
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: you need. That's going to change though, when the company
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: and hol of Fedaware Expressway network extends from Otucky through
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: to north of Levin, so the main highway will bypass
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: the town. Hola Fedawa Mayor Bernie Wanden says the I
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: need to prepare Levin to be a destination town center
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: rather than just a handy stop off. The council is
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: going to look at prioritizing short term parking in the
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: busiest central areas. Wandon says it gives them a chance
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: to make it more people focus town center he says,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: they've got a window of opportunity to make the place
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: so much better town than it is for a highway
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: going right through it as it is now. Nearby towns
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: like Parta Polo Umu, why can I and Otucky have
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: all faced similar moves in recent years as the new
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: motorways have been built and bypass their towns. In many cases, though,
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: I think it's actually made the towns more relaxing for
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: residents and of course safer too.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: And the weather today in Wellington rain.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Easy to shower as a high of seventeen, which, funny enough,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: we're already sitting on right now.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: That sounds very familiar. Thank you so much, Adam joining
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: me now in the Auckland studios neberty mana who was
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: already complaining about the cool temperature in the studio, All.
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: Right, did I just couldn't here you are in your
• 22:48
  Speaker 12: T shirt. It's about eighteen degrees or something. The temperature
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: has plummeted. Thank goodness, Mike hol Long is way today.
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: Otherwise you'd be complaining.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Not all of us are used to these early mornings.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Keeps me away, that's right.
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: Well, I could come over and slap your face.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, not had to do that these days. Something
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: needs to do all the time. Ah, tell me about
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the scorpion that was found in Auckland.
• 23:13
  Speaker 12: That's a suspectus it whilst found alive. It was found
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: in a person's bathroom. So now this discovery was sheet
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: on Instagram. It was found alive, but it has since died.
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: Oh Biosecurity New Zealand says, Look, it's collected a sample
• 23:28
  Speaker 12: to take to its leave for formal identification. Now Nick
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: Water is a surveillance manager. He said, Look, the person
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: who notified them recently returned to New Zealand last month
• 23:38
  Speaker 12: from a country that has scorpions.
• 23:42
  Speaker 7: That's all we know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 12: Nick is also saying that you know occasionally they enter
• 23:47
  Speaker 12: New Zealand as hitchhiker piece these scorpions, so they're considered
• 23:52
  Speaker 12: a low biosecurity risk because they've got very specific climate requirements,
• 23:57
  Speaker 12: so they probably can't survive.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: You really want to stumble across in your bathroom Though're
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: just giving you a little.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Bit a bit of a tip there.
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: If you find us to speak to scorpion in your bathroom.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Today orcan's with it today, please leave.
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: It right Okay, we've got rain those possible falls happening now,
• 24:12
  Speaker 12: but they will ease to scattered shells this morning. Also
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: the winds are whipping up as well, you'll notice that,
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: but warm orkanshide twenty oh.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Look, thank you so much. Never you pop out there
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and warm up, I will, I will very much appreciate it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Next off we're off to Australia. Donna Demeyo is with us.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It is seventeen to.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Now Ozzie correspondent joins us. Now Dona Demeyo, Good morning, Donna,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Good morning to you. What is going on with this
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: thirteen year old boy in Queensland?
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: Yes, well, this teenager is being charged with violent extremist offenses.
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: Arrested in a place called Maryborough in Queensland, and it's
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: alleged he posed an imminent threat to a local school.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: We've heard from Jason.
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: Heinmarsh, who's the acting Detective superintendent, and he says the
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: boy was quite well advanced in his planning. Arrested after
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: police were called to a petrol station after there were
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: reports of a person with a knife and then there
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: were further investigations and they searched a home and seized
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: an electronic device. Now police state it's too early to
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: say if there was an ideological, religious or political motivation,
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: but counter terrorism investigators are returning to Mary Barrett today
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: to look into that. And meanwhile police and child Protection
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: services are working together to make sure that the community
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: feel safe. And of course there's a support being given
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: to the school students and that thirteen year old boy
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: due to appear in court on Friday, right, but no
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: ongoing through to the public now absolutely not thankfully.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Good to hear. Now there's sort of a feel good
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: story of an extraordinary rescue of a dog sweped out
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: to see in New South Wales.
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: Quite extraordinary. This dogg Is swam eight hundred meters to say,
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: rescued by Marine New South Wales. After this dog he
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: made it to a nearby island, so swept up, swept
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: off the rocks on the star south coast of New
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: South Wales. Now, this adorable pooch brown and white pooch
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: quite quite like a medium sized doggie obviously has incredible
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: stamina making it to this place called Snapper Island at
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: Bateman's Bay, and it's understood that two members of the
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: public noticed the dog being swept away and they called
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: authorities and the dog had paddled off. They've reckoned for
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: about at least half an hour, maybe up to an hour.
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: And we've heard from an inspector and he said, well,
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: that would have taken a fair degree of stamina to
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: undertake that type of swim. Now they're still looking for
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: the owner. But what was extraordinary. Can you picture this
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: the two volunteers that got to the island on a
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: jet ski. They managed to get to the dog eventually,
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: but they had to chase it around the island for
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: about an hour and then got it onto the jet ski.
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: But thankfully doggy is safe and well. And as I said,
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: they're still looking for the owner, so hopefully they figure
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: it who doggy belongs to.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: To be a sort of fully enclosed, happy endings sort
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: of story, we do need to find that owner. We
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: do want someone to be beautifully reunited with their dog,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: don't we.
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: Yes, it will be a beautiful moment.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Dona Demeyo.
• 27:13
  Speaker 11: Does it be right?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: School leaders? A warning of an incoming crisis is the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: number of students needing restraining rises Ministry of Education data
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: shows there's been more than nine thousand incidents of staff
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: restraining students. That's an average of fifteen incidents a day,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: and your cases are out by one hundreds compared to
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: when records began in twenty eighteen. Auckland Primary Principals Association
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: President Lucy Naylor is with us now. Good morning, Lucy,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Thanks for your.
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: Time, Ahi Madia.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: How significant of a step is a staff member restraining
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  Speaker 2: a student?
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: When is it used?
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: It's look, it's only used when absolutely necessary, when to
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: prevent eminent harm, and there is absolutely no other option,
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: and the response obviously has to be reasonable and proportional
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: as well. But it is an extreme step and it's
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: not one that any teacher or any school leader would
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: like to use.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Are you seeing an increase of this in your own school?
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: Absolutely? Look that this is it's not isolated to particular communities.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: It's very very widespread and it's a nationwide shift. And
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: teachers are coming to school every single day furnished, sorry,
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: forced to manage these extreme behaviors and children who are
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: actually in crisis, and they're doing it despite a lack
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: of resource. So it is very very widespread and the
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: sector has been calling for more support on this for
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: a long time. Now.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get to that in just a moment.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Why is it on the rise?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Do we know?
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: I don't know, to be honest. There's a number of
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: contributing factors, and I think it goes beyond education. It's
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: a social issue as well. Children are just coming to
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: school less able to regulate themselves, prepared for school, less
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: self management skills. And we know we come to school
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: to learn pro social behaviors as well as reading and writing.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: But these behaviors were now saying are quite extreme, Lucie.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: If there is an incident at school and a child
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: is restrained, the parents brought in and explain the situation
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: and then a discussions had about the child. Are pearents
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: receptive today?
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: Converse Absolutely, absolutely. That's part of the restraint training that
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: teachers have to now complete under the new guideline or
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: well not so new guidelines. Now that the parents are
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: brought in, there are discussions had and they are told
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: exactly what has happened and what has led to it.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: So what was the antecede and what happened before, what
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: actually happened, and then what the consequence or what the
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: end outcome as those physical restraints also have to be
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: mandatory reporting to the ministry as well.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: In your experience, our parents keen to respond and work
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: together with the school to rectify these issues.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: Generally, yes, but a lot of a lot of the
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: cases are is quite complex. So it's not just a
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: you know, a quick telling off and everything everything's all right.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: They're very deep rooted, complex behavioral problems.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So what kind of pressure is this putting on teachers
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: and school staff?
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: They are teachers are under increasing stress. This is every
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: single day. This is happening in classrooms, and it takes
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: the teacher away from teaching the other students in the classroom.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: And every teacher wants to keep the or has to
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: keep the children safe in the classroom, and that includes
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: those children whose behavior is not extreme. So it impacts
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: not just the child with the behavior issues, it impacts
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: the other students in the class and particularly in small schools,
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: the whole school community can be impacted as well.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: So is there enough support for schools and teachers dealing
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: with this?
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: The short answer is no, absolutely acknowledge the learning support
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: budget of twenty five But what we're calling out for
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: is boots on the ground. The funding is simply just
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: trickling down and it's just not absorbing the issues that
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: are in the classrooms. It's stretching school budgets beyond their
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: limits just to keep classrooms safe. So we need more
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: learning assistance in the classrooms that have the skills to
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: support children in band of preventative space rather than intervention.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: It feels very much like at the moment we're in
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: a band aid situation where schools are managing as best
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: they can with what they have, and we absolutely absolutely
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: need more support.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: So Lucy, the government announced what it called the biggest
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: investment in learning support and generation last year, seven hundred
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and fifty million going towards resources. I would have expected
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: some of that to go towards in class support. Are
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you seeing that happen?
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: No, we are.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: It's yet to hit schools, to be honest. Learning support
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: coordinators have been allocated to each school the first try
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: and turned out last year, so that's I think roughly
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: about a third of schools now have a learning support coordinator.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: But that's only one person in a school. And what
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: we need is we need teacher ades in every classroom
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: and by doing that we're going to help help teachers
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: de escalate those behaviors.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: So how are schools managing this? I mean, it's been
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: described as an incoming crisis, so.
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: They I mean, at the end of the day, principals
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: are forced to dip into other pots of their budget.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: Some schools are tripling their learning support spending just to
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: keep their heads above water, so they're taking money from
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: other areas of the school to pay for essential teacher aides.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: And while again on top of that, the twenty twenty
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: six budget that allow for more resources for curriculum and
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: can't use those curriculum resources and meet those curriculum demands.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: If our focus is constantly on keeping students safe and
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: managing behaviors, it's just not sustainable or fear on teachers
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: and the students in our communities.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Lucy Nata, thank you so much for your time this
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: morning and talking us through that. That was Auckland Primary
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Principles Association President, Lucy Naylor. It is five to six.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. It's really the B team, isn't it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: did I say the question out loud?
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  Speaker 7: No?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: No, No one is where they're supposed to be for
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  Speaker 2: a week or two. And that is fine. It's good.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to you know, we've all got to be adaptable.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: You've been talking about the stuff with the kids being
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: restrained at Yes, we've just been speaking about that essay
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and the pressure of it on the theory. Why is
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: it happening then? Not entirely sure, to be honest with you,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: was what I just got Gentle parenting. I've put it
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: down to that. I'm interested to hear more on this. Yeah,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: so you would be covering this off this show. Let's
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: get stuck into gentle parents.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, you get.
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  Speaker 2: Stuck into the parents in a beast of luck with that.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today. Have a
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  Speaker 2: great day. We'll see you tomorrow.
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