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Texans Identity, Jaguars O-Line & More | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September twenty First, this is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by the Saint John's River Water
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  Speaker 1: Management District. And now a guy who's got the Alabama
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  Speaker 1: game this weekend mainly because he lost a bet.
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  Speaker 2: J P.
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  Speaker 3: Chackwick. Gambling's illegal at Bushwood, Sir, and I never slice
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  Speaker 3: welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, and it is Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: It's week three and the Texans are coming to town
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  Speaker 3: this week. Busy two hours ahead. Yes, the Texans and
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  Speaker 3: the Jaguars. The Texans haven't lost here in forever. It
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  Speaker 3: seems like five straight trips to Jacksonville Houston has knocked
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  Speaker 3: off the Jaguars offensive improvement needed for the Jags this week.
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  Speaker 3: Situational football last week not great red zone, goal to
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  Speaker 3: go third downs. We'll get to some reasons why coming up.
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  Speaker 3: The Jaguars defense is playing steady though, playing pretty well
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  Speaker 3: in fact as a unit, and we'll hear from the
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  Speaker 3: head coach Doug Peterson joining us in studio for you
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  Speaker 3: guessed it, The Doug Peterson Show. That's at five o'clock
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  Speaker 3: on the Jaguars Radio Network and right here on ten
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  Speaker 3: to XL ninety two point five FM. Also now, today
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  Speaker 3: was coordinator day at the Miller Electric Center Press. Taylor
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  Speaker 3: getting a share of criticism this week after last week's
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  Speaker 3: offensive performance, But he's heard it all before.
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  Speaker 4: I was in Philly for eight years, so no, I
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  Speaker 4: mean outside noise doesn't affect us inside, and I'm here
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  Speaker 4: pretty much all day every day, so I really go
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  Speaker 4: on social media, don't listen to radio, don't watch TV.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't really have time to So your
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  Speaker 4: kind of ignorance is bliss. So yeah, that doesn't really
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  Speaker 4: bother me at all.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's what it is. On the offensive side. On
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  Speaker 3: the other side of the ball, coordinator Mike Caldwell has
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  Speaker 3: to face another rookie quarter back for the second time
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  Speaker 3: in three weeks at c J. Stroud. This time around, he.
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  Speaker 5: The guy kind of knew a little bit coming into
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  Speaker 5: the college for our brother in law was with him,
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  Speaker 5: and I kept hearing about him. You know, great college
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  Speaker 5: quarterback and he can do this. But when I watch
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  Speaker 5: him on film, he's he's poised. He's poised back there.
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  Speaker 5: He hasn't thrown an interception yet and he's completing so many.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's like up in the sixty percent of
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  Speaker 5: his completion. So he's the guy that's poised, has good accuracy,
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  Speaker 5: and you know he's a quarterback that stands back in
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  Speaker 5: the pocket and makes good decisions.
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  Speaker 3: That's the defensive coordinator might called well the full Availabilities
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  Speaker 3: on Jaguars dot Com and the Jaguars YouTube channel. We're
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  Speaker 3: on tenon Xcel ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com,
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube as well. JP Shadwick with Jeff Lockerman, who
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  Speaker 3: jumps in Now, good afternoon, afternoon, JP. Well, going on
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  Speaker 3: around here this week? You know it's nothing more than normal. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is it. It feels like, hey, they
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  Speaker 3: didn't play great last week. Obviously that's the side. That's
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  Speaker 3: the difference, that's the real difference. And it's a division
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  Speaker 3: game coming up, and there's a two week trip to
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  Speaker 3: London after that against two pretty good football teams. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah. We're all looking at and I know,
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  Speaker 3: I know, because you know, you're trying to figure out
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  Speaker 3: what you're gonna wear. I know you're big over there
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  Speaker 3: in London, big, big hasslet big, But yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 3: it's if you look at the big picture, I mean this,
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  Speaker 3: this is an important game, you know, a big picture.
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  Speaker 3: You shrink it down to this week because what is
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  Speaker 3: this week matter? Well, you know, if you're kind of
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  Speaker 3: who you thought you were gonna be, this is a
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  Speaker 3: game you're supposed to win. You know, rookie quarterback at home,
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  Speaker 3: okay and division opponent, you should win this game? Right, Well,
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  Speaker 3: this is you know, you go down game by game.
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  Speaker 3: This is one you checked, yeah Wright right, And I
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  Speaker 3: think mainly because it's against a rookie quarterback. And if
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  Speaker 3: you look at the there in rebuilding mode. Still for
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  Speaker 3: the most part, they've got a young, rising head coach
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  Speaker 3: and Tamiko Ryans, who has made one of the fastest
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  Speaker 3: sents to a head coaching job in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 3: He did a great job in San Francisco, also had
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  Speaker 3: a wealth of talent, and can he do the same
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  Speaker 3: thing in Houston? My question there is where's the talent?
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  Speaker 3: I think c J. Stroud is a wonderful player. Wonderful player.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, I would have taken him over Bryce Young
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  Speaker 3: all day long. And I think that the Carolina and
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  Speaker 3: Panthers are at some point are going to sit there
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  Speaker 3: and go what did we do? We picked the wrong guy.
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  Speaker 3: They traded the house to go up and get him too. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I mean a ton. But I think the Texans were
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you talk about doing a really good job.
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  Speaker 3: They did a great job because they stay put and
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  Speaker 3: they selected who I think was the better quarterback. Now
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  Speaker 3: they screwed up on the next pick in my opinion, Well,
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  Speaker 3: they traded the farm to get Anderson and right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean they traded away the twelfth, the thirty third
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  Speaker 3: pick in this Pass Springs draft, and then next year's
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  Speaker 3: first and a third. If you do that, you have
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  Speaker 3: to have a generational talents. Will Anderson Junior a generational
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  Speaker 3: talent like Miles Garrett I mean Aarony Donald two games in, No,
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  Speaker 3: Chris Jones, you never know in time, right, Well, I
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  Speaker 3: mean maybe in time they're betting on that. Well I hope,
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  Speaker 3: I hope he isn't. Not this way so far when
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  Speaker 3: you watch the film, he doesn't show me the traits
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  Speaker 3: that he is. Like when Miles Garrett steps foot on
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  Speaker 3: a on a football field from day one, and when
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  Speaker 3: you watch the college film on him, you went total freak.
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  Speaker 3: Uh oh, total freak. How do we block this guy?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Chris, Chris Jones when you watch him play total freak.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't see that with I think Anderson is
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  Speaker 3: going to be a good player, but you can't trade
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  Speaker 3: that many picks. But I think the Texans felt like
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  Speaker 3: they had a little bit of flexibility to do that
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  Speaker 3: because they had the trade with Deshaun Watson getting shipped
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  Speaker 3: off the Cleveland oukay, now we've got a luxury of picks.
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  Speaker 6: And.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was a poor decision. But maybe it'll
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  Speaker 3: turn out to be a great decision. Yeah. Their view
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  Speaker 3: in Houston is, hey, new head coach, let's stockpile him
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  Speaker 3: with a couple of very high first round picks. At
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  Speaker 3: least you have a base guy on each side of
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  Speaker 3: the ball. Yeah. They want a building block.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So then when you believe that one of those players
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  Speaker 3: is going to be a true building block, generational player,
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  Speaker 3: then you you got to go all in on it.
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  Speaker 3: I just I don't see it with Will Anderson Junior.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, more on the Texans coming up in just
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. But boy, this week has been dominated
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  Speaker 3: by the Jaguars offense and the lack of production. Last
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  Speaker 3: week against the Kansas City Chiefs, no touchdowns in the
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  Speaker 3: game for three in the Red zone. Trevor Lawrence was
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  Speaker 3: over seven passing in the red zone and the Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: settled for three field goals in the game and loss.
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  Speaker 3: And that's been a topic all week long. How do
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  Speaker 3: they get back on track? You know? And it's still
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  Speaker 3: the storyline of some plays. Were there guys were open
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  Speaker 3: in certain instances or just didn't execute the play that
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  Speaker 3: as it was meant to be run in certain moments.
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  Speaker 3: So you got to move past that, you got to
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  Speaker 3: practice better. Doug Peterson said they didn't really practice that
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  Speaker 3: well last week. That's a little concerning. So we'll hear
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  Speaker 3: from him coming up at five o'clock, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 3: ask him, you know, how does that improve this week?
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  Speaker 3: But when your team's not practicing well, I mean, how
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  Speaker 3: do you improve that? How do you get them to
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  Speaker 3: go better? Well, look, I don't think the team has
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  Speaker 3: been practicing poorly all year. I don't think that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they had a bad day or maybe a bad
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  Speaker 3: couple days last week, which is not what you want
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  Speaker 3: to see. But look, I've been on teams that you've
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  Speaker 3: had bad practice weeks before and then you came out
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  Speaker 3: game day and we crushed an upon it. So sometimes
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  Speaker 3: practice can be a difficult indicator. I mean, for the
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  Speaker 3: most part, consistently week in and week out, if you're
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  Speaker 3: practicing well or not practicing well, then that obviously is
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  Speaker 3: a trend. But if you have an occasional bad practice
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  Speaker 3: sometimes that happens. How do you snap out of that? Though?
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  Speaker 3: Well practice? You know that's that's the not an easy answer,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's an answer. I think that requires multiple
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  Speaker 3: improvements in different areas. You know, you start up front, right,
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  Speaker 3: because you always hear that term that always starts up front. Well,
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line's got to play better. Okay, Well, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I think in that game against Kansas City,
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  Speaker 3: the coach's got to help out the offensive line too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when Chris Jones lines up on Anton Harrison
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  Speaker 3: and proceeds to beat him up the first couple of times,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to send somebody over to help him out. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: And I'm talking about sending an assassin to help him out.
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  Speaker 3: And what I mean by assassin, please explain. One of
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  Speaker 3: the greatest deterrens to pass rushers is a running back
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  Speaker 3: shoulder or a helmet in the ribs. You go back
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  Speaker 3: to one of the greatest Jaguars, of all time. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan of Fred Taylor. We all are
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars versus the Tampa Bay Bucks. Back in the day,
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  Speaker 3: Simeon Rice was the great pass rusher of the Tampa
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  Speaker 3: Bay Bucks. All it took was one helmet to the
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  Speaker 3: ribs from Fred to Simeon and then Simeon Rice came
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  Speaker 3: off the line of scrimmage the rest of the game
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  Speaker 3: looking for Fred the rest of the game. So if
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  Speaker 3: you've got Chris Jones, send a message, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: I think, maybe I don't want to say they were
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  Speaker 3: called off garb, but here's a guy that just signed
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  Speaker 3: and he hasn't even been practicing with the team. How
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  Speaker 3: many reps is he gonna get in the game? How
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  Speaker 3: effective can he be? Right? I mean, all these things
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  Speaker 3: were being talked about, Yes they were by the media. Well,
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  Speaker 3: the same things that typically are talked about by the
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  Speaker 3: media are also talked about at times by the coaches.
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  Speaker 3: And so once he started to have success, you had
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  Speaker 3: to adjust. They didn't adjust. So the offensive line's got
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  Speaker 3: to be better across the board. It wasn't just Anton,
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  Speaker 3: because when Chris Jones lined up elsewhere, he had success,
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  Speaker 3: and the offensive line didn't do great overall, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So the offensive line's got to be better. The receivers
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  Speaker 3: need to catch the balls that are thrown their way.
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  Speaker 3: There were some drops, you know right now in the season.
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  Speaker 3: You got five in the wide receiver group or excuse me,
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  Speaker 3: four in a wide receiver group, one at the running
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  Speaker 3: back position last year believe you led the league and drops,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so you got to catch the ball when
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  Speaker 3: there are are opportunities there. And then Trevor was a
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  Speaker 3: little bit off the mark seemed high, like he was
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  Speaker 3: just high. Everything was high high, and h needs to
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  Speaker 3: have a little better confidence about them, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: did you ever feel like he was commanding? He was
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  Speaker 3: in command and he was the apting on the field,
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  Speaker 3: you know by from watching it. You know that later
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  Speaker 3: drive when they get the big pass to Christian Kirk
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  Speaker 3: and they're moving the ball and they're getting up to
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  Speaker 3: the line. Okay, now we had a little something going
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  Speaker 3: that was kind of when I felt it. But that
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  Speaker 3: was about the only thing. Yeah, I mean, it's look
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  Speaker 3: and it's not just body language. It's performance too, And
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  Speaker 3: a lot of times when the performance comes and the
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  Speaker 3: positive body language company, he's got to be better. And
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  Speaker 3: so when when all of those things get better, then
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  Speaker 3: they'll start executing on offense and they'll have a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of consistency. But right now they're struggling to find
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  Speaker 3: their groove. And this week it's gonna be a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a challenge because you know, is Zay Jones
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  Speaker 3: gonna play? Do you now have a little change of
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  Speaker 3: continuity because of that? I don't know. I mean, those
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  Speaker 3: are things I think that you know, you're you're wondering about,
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  Speaker 3: because typically you can get better when you have consistency
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  Speaker 3: and you have the same guys. When all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden you start having guys coming in and out of
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  Speaker 3: the lineup, then it becomes even a greater challenge to
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  Speaker 3: get better. Doug Peterson said this week, also, we're starting
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  Speaker 3: to run out of early in the season, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's week two going into week three, and
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  Speaker 3: he understands that, you know, what they did last year
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  Speaker 3: was such an anomaly down the stretch that you can't
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  Speaker 3: waste these opportunities when you're in games no, and and
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  Speaker 3: and here's the biggest thing. I think why you got
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  Speaker 3: to win this game, it's just look, it's against a
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  Speaker 3: rookie quarterback. Get it done right, and the offensive one
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  Speaker 3: over there is beat up. If you're the division champs, okay,
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  Speaker 3: and you're going to be a contender, you can't lose
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  Speaker 3: to a division opponent that has a rookie quarterback at
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  Speaker 3: the home in your place. I mean, that's it. I mean, right,
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  Speaker 3: Am I wrong? You sound right to me? Yeah? So
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  Speaker 3: I would think I hope that there is a a
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  Speaker 3: focus and a tenacity about this football team this week
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  Speaker 3: because the Texans organization has been in control of this
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  Speaker 3: series for the most part for a long time. How
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  Speaker 3: many years has it been since this Jaguars team won
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  Speaker 3: a home game against them? Yeah, twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 3: they swept the thing, which was the last time that
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  Speaker 3: this team was in the playoffs prior of last year.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's correct. It's a long time. And
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  Speaker 3: then what, uh, out of the last ten games, how
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  Speaker 3: many of the Jaguars won won last the last time
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  Speaker 3: out last season in Houston? Yeah, that's right, yep, all right,
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  Speaker 3: let's go. They got at some point. Now, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of teams have those kind of numbers against this organization,
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  Speaker 3: let's be honest, in the last four or five years.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yes, but however, but you got to you gotta
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  Speaker 3: end him at some point. Let's go. But I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if there's a team that has that good of
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  Speaker 3: a win percentage against the Jaguars, right, And and when
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  Speaker 3: you play a division opponent, because like, for example, let's
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  Speaker 3: say kan City. You know, Kana City has been an
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  Speaker 3: amazing team for a long period of time, But I
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  Speaker 3: mean having a division opponent that's kind of the great
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  Speaker 3: equalizer between a great team and a division and one
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  Speaker 3: that's not great. It's always tough because it's a division game, Right,
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  Speaker 3: That's always the saying that's always talked about, and it
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  Speaker 3: hasn't been the case with this Houston franchise. And there's
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of a link kind of in history
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  Speaker 3: with you know, the Expansion Draft of the Selly being
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  Speaker 3: drafted and Dom Caper's being their coach and then he
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  Speaker 3: came here, and you know a lot of different things
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  Speaker 3: that have happened over the years. But you know, this
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  Speaker 3: is a new day and a new age and it's time.
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  Speaker 3: It's time to turn the tables a little bit. It's
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  Speaker 3: annoying to me, like the whole the JJ Watt era
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  Speaker 3: and like him being so dominant and like they've played
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  Speaker 3: great defenses and just you know whatever, it was just frustrating.
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  Speaker 3: JJ Watt. I mean you talk about when he was
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  Speaker 3: in his prime, Yeah, Clowney when he was there, disruptive.
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  Speaker 3: Sure of the other defensive that they had, uh gosh
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  Speaker 3: for a really good player that was a pass rusher,
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  Speaker 3: the great linebacker Demico Rimes was one of them. I
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  Speaker 3: mean Cushing was there, right, Brian Cushy an excellent player
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  Speaker 3: they at defensive backs. AJ Boye, who the Jaguars stolen
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  Speaker 3: free agency in twenty seventeen. Good football player. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they've had some defense there. I got to win this one,
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  Speaker 3: to offer outside of CJ. Stroud and how did the
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars take advantage this week? And then at four thirty
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  Speaker 3: on the free internet website. All right. So the Texans
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  Speaker 3: are coming to town. CJ. Stroud. We've talked about him
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  Speaker 3: a good bit here. Two time heis and finalists two
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  Speaker 3: games in no interceptions. He's getting hit a lot. But
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  Speaker 3: you want people to remember about c. J. Strild is
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  Speaker 3: that he's not a runner at all. That's not his
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  Speaker 3: he is. He is real, I mean, and he's not
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  Speaker 3: great at extending the play or anything like that. He
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  Speaker 3: does a pretty good job, but he's a pocket passer
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  Speaker 3: through and through and has a level of arm talent
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  Speaker 3: that if his offensive line can give him time, he will.
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  Speaker 3: He will slicing dice up a little bit now. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's pretty good. And when I say pretty good,
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  Speaker 3: I mean he's talking about a rookie has fifty eight
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  Speaker 3: pass that hasn't thrown an interception yet, and last week
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  Speaker 3: how many yards did he throw for? It's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: I wrote it down. Three hundred and eighty four yards
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  Speaker 3: for three hundred and eighty four yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's tremendous performance that he had. And he's
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  Speaker 3: been doing it without a lot of production or help
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  Speaker 3: from an offensive line in a running game, which is
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  Speaker 3: even more impressive. You know, Damian Pierce, right, the surprise
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: rookie last year that wowed us and we were watching
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: him going wow, man, Damian Pierce really could get for
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: the Texans fourth round pick UF guy, you know, and
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Stroud doesn't have him at his a game to help
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: him out. Pierce is averaging less than three yards of carry,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: like two point sixty five yards of carry? Who scares
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: you in the passing game for them though? Nico Collins,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Nico's the Nico Collins and Nico Collins was a third
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: round pick a couple of years ago, and I remember
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: watching him last year because this rookie year he didn't
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: see the field hardly at all, and then last year
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: he started to show flashes. Well. Last week against the Colts,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: he had a career day big seven catches, one hundred
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: and forty six yards and a touchdown. And Stroud is
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: so accurate down the field. I mean, that's kind of
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: a dangerous combination.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Robert Woods is the guy on the other side, veteran
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Guy's been around the block, been with the Bills, been
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: with the Rams, probably like two or three other places.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: But he with Tennessee for a while too. Yeah see
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: guy right, Yeah, been around forever. He's solid. And then
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: they have another rookie kind of as a third wide receiver,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: a third round pick out of Houston called Tank. His
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: name is Tank Dell, I mean young player. But Nico Collins.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: He's long. They list him at six four and fifteen
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: and the dude can fly, I mean fly. So if
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna match up, which I don't know if they
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: will or not, maybe they gonna just play sides, I
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: want to have the long Tyson Campbell on him just
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: because of the length and catch radius that Nico Collins has.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Do you is this a zone game, or can you
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I think you can man up. I think you can
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: man up, you know, because because again it's because Stroud
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: is not a runner, and I think you got to
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: be willing to bring pressure on a guy who's been
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: sacked eleven times and who's not a moving target. Now
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: he's kind of gonna be where you expect him to be,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: and so I think you got to mix it up.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is I don't think this is a
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: game where you sit there and you go, okay, Anthony Richardson,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: we want to keep all eyes on the quarterback and
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: taint him in the pocket all that Stuh Yeah, I
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: mean I don't. I think you're necessarily worried about some
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: of that stuff. But the one thing that you do
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: have to realize is that if you send the blitz
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: and nobody is flashing okay at the quarterback, then he
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: has the arm talent to throw a thirty yard strike
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: down the field. So you better make sure you do
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: it without being the ultimate aggressor, which is playing cover zero.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: You don't want to do anything like that. You want
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: to make sure that you're keeping a safety back there.
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• 20:45
  Speaker 3: What kind of setup do they employ here? I mean,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: it's the first year for Damiko Ryans. They've got some
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: new faces there. A couple of rookies are starting for them,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: including Will Anderson. Henry Totoe is a linebacker in the
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: starting lineup as well, but Sack Griffin's gonna get some time.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It sounds like this week there's some injuries on the
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: back end of this defense. So let's kind of start
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: a little bit of where Demiko Ryans has been because
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator is Matt Burke okay, but Demiko Ryans
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: is his defense with his guy okay that he brings in.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: And Demiko Ryans was a positional coach in San Francisco
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: under who Robert Salsala, who was under Gus who's under
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Gus Bradley here in Jacksonville, who was under Pete Carroll.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: So that's the Gus Bradley, Pete Carroll defensive coaching tree,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: however you want to consider it. So this is a
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: defense that's not going to be exotic. It's going to
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: be where you kind of expect them to be. But
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: they play fast and so from a schematic standpoint, you're
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: getting a little familiarity from week one of the Indianapolis Colts.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: So that's good. Personnel wise, they're different, very talented in
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: the back end, but they've been beat up a little bit.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Both safeties were out last game, and one of the safeties,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Wart, spent a lot of time in San fran
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: and Demico Ryans brings in a veteran guy from his
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: program in San Francisco to help kind of bring this
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: new defense to Houston. Jalen Petrie, who was a draft
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: pick last year, second round pick, had a really good
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: rookie season, is the other safety. But both of those
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: guys did not play this past game against Indianapolis. They
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: were out. The corners are pretty talented, and when I
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: say pretty talented, the guy that's probably the least talented
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: of the three, it's probably not who you'd expect, but
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Steve Nelson, Tavier Thomas and and Derek Stingley junior, who
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: was the third overall pick last year, one pick ahead
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: of Sauce Gardner of the New York Jets, and Stingley
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: has been injured first of all injured in his career
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: so far, but has been viewed as widely a disappointment
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: compared to the Sauce Gardner pick. I mean, if you
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: could redraft, well, I mean, if you know, hindsight is
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty at eight always is. But if there was
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: a redraft, I don't know if Derek Stingley even goes
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: in the first round. I mean that's I think that's
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: how far he would be fall He would have fallen,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: or would fall in a redraft. It sounds like he's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: not going to be available this week anyway. Heard a
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: hamstring yesterday in practice. Wow, So so okay, here comes
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: a familiar face, Shack Griffin wear number zero by the way, yes,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: wear number zero. And I was a free agent here
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: two years ago, what twenty one, and then last year
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: on IR well, he gave up the long touchdown at
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the end of the Colts game up there and then
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: went on IR after that with a back end. I
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: think he actually had surgery and he did say yeah,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: he did, and uh, this is not like the Jalen
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Ramsey kind of you know thing. I think he actually
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: went under the night. Yeah he did, he did. He
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: had he had back surgery. Could he have delayed it? Well,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: that's up to Hey, that's beyond our control, That's right.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, you try to like to
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: have guys try to play through some things, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: because everybody plays hurt. But can you attack him or
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: do is it designed differently the way they play defense
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: to protect him? Well it's his own which is which
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: is good for Shack, you know so? But look, Shack's
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: a solid player, He's not a liability. I think in
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Houston he's a backup mainly because back surgery unproven. They've
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: got some talent there and obviously a high pick. So
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: how will this team look with him? I don't think
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: that this is going to be a major problem for them.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I think they're going to be just fine. Uh if
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: his man covers he can't do well, I think Shack
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: will be a starter. And then Tavier Thomas is your
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: nickel guy. He ends up, you know, staying at the nickel.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Shack moves in to the starting corner roll and I
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: don't know if you'd call this a revenge game for him,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: but you know, I mean, when a guy's got got
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: a match against his ex team, you always want to
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: play well against your old team, your old teammates. Griffin
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: revenge game. Have a little conversation, you know, the guys
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: out there. I'm sure he'll be talking a little bit,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: you know, to Christian Evan. You know those guys. Why not.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they're gonna just yeah. I don't know what's
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: gonna happen with that. I don't know, probably not much.
• 25:33
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  Speaker 7: Hello in studio, Nice to see you, guys.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Hello, it's nice to see you, and it's nice to
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we got.
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  Speaker 7: Less than a week now. I guess what have we
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  Speaker 7: got tonight? Christian Cark Yeah, oh that's all.
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• 26:46
  Speaker 3: So it was this eighth career one hundred yard game
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: this past week, and unfortunately they couldn't finish off all
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: the yardage you got with touchdowns.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: I know one grab of the ankle away from right.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: That would have changed the whole dynamic of that game. Yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: he didn't look. We were talking earlier about how they
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: can get better on offense, and I said, you know,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: don't drop the ball. And Christian had a good game,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: but he was guilty of a drop as well. I
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: mean it wanted to hit him right there. So you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: when you when you start talking about getting better, you
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: know you've got to make sure that they're looking in
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: that mirror and then looking at home first, you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: sweeping up the front step first, before you start sweeping
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: up other steps, before you start pointing to other people's ports. Right, Okay,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: is that how it works? I guess.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a lot of talk about the O
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: line this week high and and really the first two
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: weeks you had the Forest Buckner week one, Chris Jones
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: last week. This week they've got a rookie in Houston,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Will Anderson Junior and a couple other guys that can play.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: So this is a you knows isn't buying into that,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: but but from a Jags offensive line perspective, they better
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: approach it that way or it could be a long day.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: They should and if it looks bad this week, then
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: we have a big, big problem.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So obviously they've had some injuries. We've reported on that
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: throughout camp and they're a little banged up, but that's
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: not an excuse. They need to figure out what works
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: for them. I know Cam will be back in a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks, so hopefully that helps. But in the meantime,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: they got to figure out how to protect Trevor, so
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: he's time to throw the football.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: That's going to be you know. And here's the thing.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Cam plays left tackle. Yeah, and probably the best performing
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: guy out of the five so far has been Walker
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Little left tackle.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I agree, But he's also the most versatile. So that's
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: why you're like, he'll be good wherever we put him.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I think I would assume that's what they're gonna do,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: because you can't put him anywhere else.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I see. I think this is an interesting conversation. I
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: really believe so, because you know, you say that Walker
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Little is versatile. Well, where else has he started in
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: his career? Nowhere? Right tackle? Not a start? Has he
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: had to start right tackle? Did he start there? He's
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: finished a game there, I can't remember. I don't know
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: if he had to start there or not. I think
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: he had he subbed into the game. I don't think
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: he had a start there, and I don't think all
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: of his starts came at left tackle. And he hasn't
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: played guard in an NFL game yet, so do you
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: feel confident that. Okay, well, if we get Cam back, yeah, okay,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: if we want to get stronger, maybe we can put
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: him at a guard spot or another tackle spot. I
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: don't know. That's that's gonna be an interesting kind of deal.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: See how they do that, you know what the I
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: mean it might they feed off of Cam Robinson's attitude.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of times, right, just the way
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: he plays, the way he finishes plays, especially in the
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: run game. Like Cam Robinson is a fantastic run blocker.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Well he's let me just say this, he can finish better,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, in a run game when he wants
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: to finish. Oh wow, he's he's strong, he's big. He
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: can just kind of engross people because of his size.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: But sometimes he needs to finish better, which everybody's guilty
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: of that. I mean, that's kind of part of the
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: game in the league now some guys aren't finishing well.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: But I mean it's not an instant cure. Okay, we
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: got Cam back. We're okay, We're fine. Our offensive line
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: is good to go. Walker a little plug him in anywhere. Ah,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I think that. You know, now you've got a guy
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: that's back and all of a sudden, he's been inactive
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: for a while, and do you disrupt the continuity that
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: you had and Walker little has been playing pretty well.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: I guarantee if you had like a survey of the
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: coaching staff, I don't think they'd have one opinion.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a right answer either. And I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: think a lot of it's going to depend on week
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: three and week four, because if they come out and
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: play really well, then it's a lot harder to put
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Cam back in and just be like, oh, we'll put
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: him there automatically. But if they're still having the same
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: problem and put him in and then try to figure
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: it out, is what I would imagine what happened.
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: But again we'll see interrupt you.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Part of it, too, is if Barts gets better the
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: next two weeks, right, I mean, if he's playing well,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they'd all get a good all
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: of them do. Yes, there's a collective group. But that
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: in theory, that would be the place where you would
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: move Walker a little inside is to the left guard, right,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, or well, I don't I don't see. Well,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: if he's not gonna play center, right, he's not snapping
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: the ball might can play some center. He has played
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: a lot of center, done a little bit of that, right,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: But I mean you got a second year center there
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: who's going to be out there? He's not going anywhere. Yeah,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: And I don't see Walker Little going to right tackle.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: You got a rookie right tackle, first round guy. I mean,
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: so there's there's only so many positions on the field.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: There's five or if they played what if they just
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: played six offensive linemen pounded the football and a full
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: back and two tight ends and run the Penn State offense.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Who's going to play full back? There's no fullback on rust.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: We'll figure out somebody. Put you know, Putlake Hansen, Straams
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: can do it. Yeah, put another time, put another one.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Put all of them in there. Get center, offensive lineman
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: out there. Want to run the ball last week, We'll
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: guess what. There's your answer to run the ball?
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: You guys been hanging out with Tony too much? You
• 32:03
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  Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. Well, Jaguars defense guy is playing well right
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: They're not. They're taking the ball away when it's there.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Five takeaways on defense, one on special teams this year.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: But they're not letting huge plays loose, and they're They're
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: a good collective group right now.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think any of us would have picked the
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Jaguars defense to be, you know, the savior of the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: team at this point. I mean, we talked about the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: offense at nauseum, and now it's.
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: The defense coming through. Which would you like to see?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: And I have to imagine the offense is going to
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: come around, and then if the defense can play even
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: half of what they're doing for the rest of the year,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that's going to bode well for the team. I think
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: going up against a rookie quarterback in your first weekend
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: your third week is definitely gonna help that, especially Stroud
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: who likes to stick in the pocket and unfortunately his
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: his line they have some troubles as well as eleven
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: sacks so far this year for him, that's that's tough.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: So it should be a long day for him if
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the Jags defense gets it all together as they should.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I wish BISSELLI were here for this, so I'm going
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: to read this. Okay, Okay, Well, the PFF came out
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: with their offensive line rankings. Boy, Pro Football focused, that's
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  Speaker 3: He would love this part of our show, Wouldney? Sure?
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  Speaker 3: He would? Okay? Yes, who's worst? Texans are Jaguars according
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: to PFF? Just that all things.
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: According to PFF, it's probably us.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: But it's got to be the Texans, right, I mean
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: they've they're on like their third center and like seventh guard.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I mean it's like, what are we doing? It's got
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: to be the Texans thirty one? What are we twenty nine?
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: What is this?
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Just? Oh?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Not d A L All right, that's good. So that's
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: just like collective everybody's rankings all season long on your line?
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Is that? What that is? What's that? The ranking? How
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: do they get the ranking? How do they get it? Yeah?
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I don't scientists. It sits
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: back and you.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: Know, comes tell us what is what?
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know sees. Tony's beef with it. Tony WASSELLI
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: you might have heard of him, Hall of Famer. His
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: beef is that they don't know what the play was,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: or the people watching the film degrade it don't know
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: what he was really supposed to do a lot of Well,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: he's right, and we actually it was me and Tony
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: and Brian Baldinger who was calling the game for National Radio,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: and Baldy was a former offensive lineman, and we had
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: this very conversation before the game about PFF. Frank and
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: body's like the PFF stuff. It just makes everybody an
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: expert and they don't even have a clue to what
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: they're supposed to be doing on the offensive line, because
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: you know, Baldy's an old school you know this guy,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: and he's great. He's a film junkie and he knows
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: what the offensive line is trying to accomplish. But I'll
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: just give you this, I think you take everybody's rankings
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: sometimes with a little bit of a grain of salt,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: especially PFF. I think from a skill position standpoint, it's
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: easier to analyze numbers, but for offensive line and defensive
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: line play. Sometimes, unless it's a numbers game like sacks, pressures,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: et cetera, sometimes it can be hard to evaluate. And
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Tony and Baldy are right and that you have to
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: be able to understand what the scheme is to be
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: able to provide a fair assessment or put a grade
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: on something. Okay, so is it accurate? No, but I
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: think it can be a tool of the overall picture
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: of things. But it does it can leave some things.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: For example, the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line last year, what
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: do you think or where do you think they might
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: have been ranked that last year A pretty high number
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: one yeah, okay, number one rushing team, Okay, dynamic in
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: the passing game, and that was legit. I mean they
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: earned that, they were worthy of that. Sure, So you
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: can't argue with PFF's ranking in that category, you know.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: So anyway, just you know, with a grand salt, like
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: if you if you're this is the last on my
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: at least on my part of this. Kay, welcome to
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: go as long as you'd like on this topic. But
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: if you if you're pulling guard right and you're in
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: the right spot, but the running back goes the wrong
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: way and gets tackled. Do you get credit for being
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: in the right spot? Do they know that's the spot
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: you're supposed to be a great question. I don't know
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: that you control the Chris right who's greating this stuff?
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: But now all that said, the Jags O line needs
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: to play better. I think we're all in agreement on that. Yes,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: we would agree that they they've said they shouldn't be
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: in the top fifteen, right you would hope, Okay, you
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: would hope they need to get better, and they've said
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: as such this week. That's what it is. They know it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: It's week three. They're running out of early. Here's the
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: best part about this week. I mean Will Anderson Jr.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Has name? Okay, third overall pick of the draft. Name
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: me somebody else on the Houston Texans front. Just give
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: me a name. I mean somebody that you might think
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Gernard is gonna play pretty well.
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: He's look, he's looking at the Jonathan is there, Michael.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: And and with the inside Sheldon Rank. But he's been
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: around for Sheldon rankins. How many different teams has he
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: been after being a first round pick of Louisville. He's
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: been like playing musical teams. I mean that's how good
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: he's been a first round pick and he's been all
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: over the place. But the rest of the guys, I
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: mean Grenard eh okay, eh, Will Anderson Jr. Best best
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: guy they got right now? Play two games and I'm
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: just telling you after watching both films, Okay, both games,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: he's the best player they have up front. Okay, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: he's still he's still a rookie. He's not great. He's
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: solid good, you know, solid good, right in that solid
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: to good? So what are they? Is it excellent? Solid? Good? Poor?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: So are there five rankings? Like is there solid? Solid?
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: Would be like a middle good and great excellent, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: then what's below.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: That like poor and solid average or here's here's a
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: good term. Since we're putting new terms on it. Cut
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: is the lowest one. Okay, all right, tonight, Jaguars All
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Access Television.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Yes we are at Strings tonight. Christian Kirk is our
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: guest for All Access. So he's always a good person
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to talk to, and if you have any questions about
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the offense, he'll be there so you can ask him
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he would love to hear you. Uh. String
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Sports Brewery in Springfield. Try the Wings okay with the
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: with the white sauce on them. On white sauce, I'm
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: ordering something tonight, let's go. No, it's no, it's it's
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: barbecue sauce. But it's very good, very good on chicken.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: That's what it's made for, by the way. And then yeah,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: the burgers are great, the beer is fantastic, and it
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: should be a good crowd tonight.
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: Right, absolutely always is.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: How about the burgers and the wings? How many wings
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: do you get with an order? I think it's eight?
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I think somewhere there. If I'm gonna have a burger,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I don't need eight wings? Can I get a half hour?
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Or when you got a diet you work out four
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: hours a day? You know? I know? What do you
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: need to worry about? Calorie? JP? You gotta you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: when you get to be my age, JP, you got
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: to take care of yourself a little bit. Yeah, can't.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Can't do those things that you do. Kai. We'll see
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: you later. Thanks. Stevens, Jaguars reporter joining US Jaguars Happy.
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• 40:09
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• 40:14
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• 40:24
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• 40:42
  Speaker 3: The Texans and the Jaguars coming up this Sunday at
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: one o'clock. Right, yeah, you might want to write that down.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I got her here on time. I got it written down.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure that's right an confirm it.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: It should be a fantastic day, fantastic crowd, good weather
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: I think is on on the schedule that would be positive.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: And the game is presented by a renewal by Anderson
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  Speaker 3: LA dot com. So the Texans have won here for
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: the last five times they've made the trip to Jacksonville.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: The Jaguars are trying to snap that skid at home
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: against their division rival, and no injury report has been
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: announced yet for today, but we can tell you that
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Zay Jones was on it yesterday with a knee issue
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: and be curious to see. I didn't see him out
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: there on the practice field today, at least in the
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: open media period, so we'll see when they officially announced
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: it what his true status is today. But didn't feel
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: like that was trending the right way at least yesterday
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: with the start of the week. Did not practice yesterday.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Antonio Johnson still is not practiced at least yesterday. This
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: is all yesterday. Josh Allen limited yesterday. Andrew Winger with
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: a shoulder injury limited yesterday if it was not injury related,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: did not practice full. You've had a Kasi with a
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: shoulder issue did not practice as well. That was all
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: on Wednesday. Again, no Thursday report is out there as
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: of yet. The injury report presented by Baptist South and
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider of
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars. So health wise, you know, if Jay
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: is not ready to roll, then what do you do
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: at wide receiver in his spot? Well, I think you
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: got some options. One option is is that you play
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: a different personnel grouping where you're not playing a lot
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: of three wide receivers, which means you could go to
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: multiple tight ends, which go you know, typically for people
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: that don't know when when we say eleven personnel, that
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: means one running back, one tight end, and then three receivers,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: which your three are obviously Ridley, Christian Kirk and Mza,
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: which are the predominant you know, wide receivers that you
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: play in a ball game. So if Zay is hurt
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: and can't go, so you could play an extra tight end,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: you could play Ferrell and then Evan Ingram. Another way
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: to do that is you just plug and play the
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: next wide receiver, which could be Tim Jones, it could
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: be Agnew. Agnew is a very valuable guy just because
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: the coaches have said this multiple times about how smart
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: he is and that he can play all three positions,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: which a lot of guys can't do that. Okay, it's
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: not easy to learn all three positions. I mean you
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: think about it. I mean you got three different wide
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: receiver positions and are all doing something different on every play.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: And Jamal can literally tell you exactly what every guy
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: is supposed to do on every play, which you know,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: and that's where you want to be if you're a
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: veteran guy. But not everybody can be there. They got
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: to focus in on just what they're supposed to do.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: So Jamal is I think a valuable player in that aspect.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: And Tim Jones we've seen in the past when called upon,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: he's done a really good job on top of the
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: special team's responsibilities that he has. Could you elevate one
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: of the rookie players you might Parker Washington, Elijah Cooks,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: you know, or possibilities, but I would guess that personnel
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: group change and or you just have Tim Jones and
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Agnew step into that role like you did in the
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: game right when when Zay went out, you had Agnew
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: and Tim Jones in there. That's what it is. I'd
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: be fine. The one thing know that you do lose,
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: which is say, is a legitimate deep threat guy is
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Tim Jones? That guy probably not? Is Agnew? That guy
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: probably not. But those two guys also have a skill
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: set that I think is advantageous over Zay's. For example,
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Agnew shiftiness, you know after the CA I mean he's
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: a dynamic returner, you know, so we know about his
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: ability to perform in spaith and Tim Jones is a
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: very reliable receiver with very good hands. His catch percentage
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: is high. Zay's catch percentage this year at least, has
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: been a little bit lower. But Zay's got a great
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: double move. Trevor's talked about it before that Zay's got,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: you know, the best double move on the team, he
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: said last year. So you lose a little bit of that,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: but I think he'll be fine. I mean it's look,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: they've got Christian and Calvin and Evan. I mean those
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: three pretty good right there. Now, pretty good. Coming up
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: in about five minutes the Doug Peterson Show, and that's
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: on the Jaguars Radio Network. Head coach Doug Peterson will
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: join us in studio. We'll get his thoughts about the
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: week and getting back on the practice field after what
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: he said wasn't a great practice week last week for
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: the team and kind of showed up in the game. Obviously,
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: the situational football last week on offense left a lot
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: to be desired. They didn't score a touchdown last week
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: and there's a big divisional game coming up, so there's
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: a lot to talk about with the head coach tonight, Locks,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: there will be a lot a lot to talk about.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: And you know, I think coaches sometimes they want to
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: move past and just look forward sometimes especially on a Thursday.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: But you know, Doug's been willing to talk about last
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: week because you know, the one thing about as a
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: coach is that you learn from the past so that
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: you can move forward. And so you don't want to
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: dwell in the past, but you got to be able
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: to certainly look back and reflect and take something from it.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure that he has done that with his
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: team absolutely. Or Doug's a good football coach man, really
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: good football coach. Now, I don't know if I would
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: have gone for it on the fourth and twelve from
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: the sixteen. Okay, he's a little bit more aggressive than me.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: You don't share that philosophy, Okay, I mean he's an
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: offensive mining coach. Typically offensive guys are a little bit
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: more aggressed, you think, than the guy that was kind
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: of raised on the defensive background. Got to remember, this
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: is a guy that ran the Philly Special with the
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl. I know bold, he's bold. They're going to
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: try the double pass thing, you know, with Christian Kirk
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: throwing it. I love those plays when they work. Yeah,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: everybody loves it when they were you know, that's that's
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: kind of part of the deal. That's part of the risk.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: That's right. What's what's the famous term? Who said this,
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: no risk at no biscuit in Tampa, Bruce Arians, No
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: risk at no biscuits? True. Hey, sometimes you got to
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: put it out there. When in the world did he
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: come up with that late at night you want a
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: super Bowl? Did he? No? He's pretty good now, and
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: he's a he's got a great personality. But it's a
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: great term, no risk at no biscuit. Yeah, that's what.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: But I will say that I was on board the
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: fourth and five at midfield you were, yeah, I was it.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Fourth and five yeah, yeah, go right before halftime? Yeah go.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I was okay with that. He explained it as the
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: defense is playing pretty well. Okay, Well, I got scolded
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: by everybody else in the booth. What do you mean
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: you can't do that? I'm like, I'm okay with that. Well,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: they go down a score touchdown, and then the Jags
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: go down and kick a field goal, So it's seven
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: to three. I mean, so yeah, I don't know. I'm
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: pretty confident. The way they were playing defense, you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: you were thinking they maybe they get a stop. But
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: uh but yeah, that's that's the great thing about being
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: a head coach. You make those bold decisions that can
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: get widely second guest, and they rarely get second guests
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: when they work. It's when they don't work. It's when
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: they get second guests to a higher degree. And now
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the other part of it, too, is you can make
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: the right call and then somebody just drops the ball
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: or runs the wrong way, or or doesn't block this
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: three hundred and twenty pounds guy wearing ninety five. The
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: coaches and the play callers can only do so much, right,
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Chris Jones totally annihilated that play the fourth and five. Yeah,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: you had Christian who was going to be open. Trevor
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: can't even see him for this ninety five in red
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: and white. Yeah, you know, it's like stands out. It's
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: like trying to see a ship, okay, behind a barge. Okay,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: you're trying to see a fishing but behind a barge.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Ninety five being the barge, okay. Chris Jones, big man.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: He destroyed a lot of plays in that game. He's
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: done it throughout his career. In fact, not just this
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: past Sunday. We'll hear from the coach coming up with
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Doug Peterson showed just moments away. He'll be in the
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: studio with us to get ready for Week three against
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: the Texans, and that'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour
• 49:56
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