Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #138: Socialism makes people miserable: just look at today's raging Marxists. Anointed Democrat Governor candidate Sara Rodriguez's campaign is in disarray. And, the latest violent chaos on Milwaukee's Water Street is caused by an unexpected suspect.

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Mark Belling Podcast #138: Socialism makes people miserable: just look at today's raging Marxists. Anointed Democrat Governor candidate Sara Rodriguez's campaign is in disarray. And, the latest violent chaos on Milwaukee's Water Street is caused by an unexpected suspect. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: couple of levels. She writes, I mark some family members,
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  Speaker 2: and I drove from West Bend and Milwaukee to DC
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  Speaker 2: for the Fourth of July. There's my much that I
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  Speaker 2: could say about the whole experience, but the one thing
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  Speaker 2: that sticks out in my mind the most was the crowd.
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  Speaker 2: To say it was hot in DC on the fourth
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  Speaker 2: would be an understatement. Remember that's what whole country, but
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  Speaker 2: particularly the East Coast, was in the upper nineties. I
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  Speaker 2: drank twelve to fourteen of the sixteen ounce bottles of
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  Speaker 2: water the National Guard was handing out. I took she
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  Speaker 2: I'll use the term. She uses the term peede. I
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  Speaker 2: never liked that term. I think that there are better
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  Speaker 2: terms for that, don't you. I think take a whiz
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  Speaker 2: is just that covers it just perfectly well, and it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't even sound as repulsive, does it. I'd say I whizzed,
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  Speaker 2: But then if it's this is a woman, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just reading on a woman describing that. Anyway. She
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  Speaker 2: points this out. I don't know why she necessarily points
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  Speaker 2: it out, but other than she's establishing that it was
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  Speaker 2: really hot and staying hydrated actually is really important. It
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  Speaker 2: feeds into our story. From ten am until we got
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  Speaker 2: back to our airbnb at two am, the heat was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: A crowd of hundreds of thousands were packed into a
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  Speaker 2: few block radius while we waited in lines exposed to
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  Speaker 2: the sun. All day, people were dropping like flies around us.
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  Speaker 2: Freedom two fifty did some things very well and some
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  Speaker 2: not so well. Communication that day was horrible. No one
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  Speaker 2: from Freedom two fifty secret service in the National Guards
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  Speaker 2: seemed to know where we would be left and where
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  Speaker 2: we should be waiting, et cetera. Then we finally got
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  Speaker 2: into the Washington Monument area where Trump would speak and
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  Speaker 2: the fireworks would go off. The show was about to
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  Speaker 2: begin when an announcement was made that we all must
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  Speaker 2: evacuate and head to a few federal buildings in the
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  Speaker 2: area due to the threat of storms that night. Yeah right.
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  Speaker 2: Needless to say, people were disappointed. We figured most people
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  Speaker 2: would go home. We were wrong. Most seem to have stayed.
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  Speaker 2: Many were cut off from getting back in. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know why. Most of us weren't though, weren't through security again.
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  Speaker 2: Before Trump had finished speaking. Many of us missed half
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  Speaker 2: the firework show. It was a tinderbox for anger and
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  Speaker 2: frustration to spill over. So here's what she's describing. It's
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  Speaker 2: unbelievably hot. People are packed in all day, all day,
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  Speaker 2: all day, and then right before it begins, they're announcing
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  Speaker 2: an evacuation of all these people. They have to head
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  Speaker 2: to a few buildings, which of course most of them
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  Speaker 2: didn't do, but they had to move outside the area
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  Speaker 2: that they were in. Then when it was time to
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  Speaker 2: get them back in, because the lines that all were
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  Speaker 2: so long, many people didn't even get in in time
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  Speaker 2: for the fireworks, and many did many miss the whole,
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  Speaker 2: big portion of what Trump had to say, Hot, miserable,
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  Speaker 2: whole thing. So her point is this heads the potential
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  Speaker 2: to really blow up, she writes, But what we witnessed
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  Speaker 2: will never leave me. The maga hat patriotic shirt, red
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  Speaker 2: white and blue hair and tattoo wearing crowd remained happy,
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  Speaker 2: positive and enthusiastic throughout it all. It shocked me. We
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  Speaker 2: were packed like sardines waiting to get in, yet I
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  Speaker 2: never feared tramping. Instead of swearing and lashing out, people
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  Speaker 2: saying the nashtalanthem were shouting Usa, USA while waiting. No
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  Speaker 2: one pushed people smiled. On our way home. We counted
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  Speaker 2: the people who acted up. One yelled you suck, and
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  Speaker 2: a guardsman who frustrated him for some reason. One woman
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  Speaker 2: dared some guy to hit her, and a couple shouted
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  Speaker 2: at police there's no effing way a storm is going
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  Speaker 2: to get me to leave after waiting in line eight
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  Speaker 2: hours to get in. But that was it. Nothing ever escalated.
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  Speaker 2: Four or five people mildly escalated out of hundreds of thousands.
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  Speaker 2: Bottom line, we Conservatives love our country and we love life.
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  Speaker 2: We are optimistic, kind, faith filled, joyful, energetic, patriotic, god
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  Speaker 2: loving people. The joy was palpable, even as sweat ran
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  Speaker 2: down our backs and our skin burned. Timelines got pushed back,
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  Speaker 2: events got canceled or delayed, and the severe storms that
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  Speaker 2: caused the evacuation never came. I am so proud of
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  Speaker 2: my fellow conservative countrymen. I have always loved and appreciated
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  Speaker 2: my country, but I was taken to a whole new
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  Speaker 2: level after witnessing this patriotic crowd on July fourth and DC.
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  Speaker 2: We truly have the most remarkable country and the most
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  Speaker 2: remarkable people on the planet. Again, I just don't like
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  Speaker 2: to bread names because people don't know who's gonna do
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  Speaker 2: what left He's gonna bug them but them. But she's
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  Speaker 2: west End. I think you can take her point to
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  Speaker 2: the next level. Look at any mass gathering of leftists, Marxists,
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  Speaker 2: democratic socialists, whatever you want to call them. They're always enraged.
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  Speaker 2: It can be seventy four degrees of the nice breeze.
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  Speaker 2: They can have great space between them. They're raging and
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  Speaker 2: yelling and blowing whistles, and the looks in their faces
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  Speaker 2: total anger. It's not just Trump de arrangement syndrome that
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  Speaker 2: causes them to act irrationally. I think they're hacked off
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  Speaker 2: always twenty four to seven. I think their ideology makes
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  Speaker 2: them miserable. It's like they pop a lefty pill and
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  Speaker 2: it makes them angry. Now, in the past, I commented
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  Speaker 2: on subsets of this the phenomenon, and it's changed a little.
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  Speaker 2: But go back, especially ten twenty years in Wisconsin ago.
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  Speaker 2: In Wisconsin, it just seemed to me the public school
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  Speaker 2: teachers were always angry, always bitching about their jobs. Seventy
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  Speaker 2: five percent of the people who had complained about their
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  Speaker 2: jobs in Wisconsin or public school teachers. All the other
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  Speaker 2: bitching came from the remaining twenty five percent, and as
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  Speaker 2: I said, there was no particular reason for it by
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  Speaker 2: any standard. Public school teachers have soft work schedules. I'm
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  Speaker 2: an expert on soft work schedules. I have a soft
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  Speaker 2: work schedule. Public school teachers worked about eight and a
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  Speaker 2: half months a year. Their hours were right, daytime hours,
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  Speaker 2: no graveyard shift or anything. They had an incredible number
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  Speaker 2: of six days, holidays out the wazoo, numerous days off,
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  Speaker 2: and then the work conditions. Almost none of them ever
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  Speaker 2: got fired. They had guaranteed annual races, and even after
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  Speaker 2: Act Ken, they had incredibly generous benefits. True, those that
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  Speaker 2: worked in urban school districts had to put up with
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  Speaker 2: lots of dysfunction in the students, and those that were
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  Speaker 2: actually professional teachers who believed in discipline and standards were
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  Speaker 2: weighted down by being involved in a school system in
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  Speaker 2: which there were no standards, in which everything was being
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  Speaker 2: defined downward. I grant you all of that, but they
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  Speaker 2: weren't working in any covides. These weren't the work crews
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  Speaker 2: that are working on and say, on the freeway in
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  Speaker 2: Milwaukee to day when it's ninety two degrees. Yet they
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  Speaker 2: were always bitching and My theory on that is, first
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  Speaker 2: of all, most people who go into that line of
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  Speaker 2: work tend not to be independent thinkers. What they had
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  Speaker 2: was a union constantly filling their ears with how miserable
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  Speaker 2: they had it and lacking any critical thinking skills, realizing
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a bad at all. They bought into this.
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  Speaker 2: They were being told that they were screwed. You're screwed,
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  Speaker 2: You're screwed, You're screwed, and they got all angry. We
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  Speaker 2: are being screwed, I know. Extrapolate this to the larger level,
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  Speaker 2: the anti capitalists, the Marxists, the people who backed Francesca Han,
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  Speaker 2: the lefties that seem to hate the country. They don't
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  Speaker 2: just hate Trump, they hate the country and they hate
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  Speaker 2: the people' support Trump. They're rage coming out of them everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: And my theory on it is they've been fed this
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  Speaker 2: line that they have it so terribly, so miserable. We're
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  Speaker 2: such an oppressive, horrible, rotten nation that it feeds on itself.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take people that, for lack of a better termal
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  Speaker 2: described as losers, which I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: in the left arm I didn't say, all if you're
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  Speaker 2: a loser and you're spinning your wheels, and you don't
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  Speaker 2: like to work, and you don't like to do anything.
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  Speaker 2: This message feeds on it, so you don't feel good
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  Speaker 2: about yourself, and now you're told that you're in a
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  Speaker 2: country that makes you feel terribly so now you feel
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  Speaker 2: even worse, which makes you give me, and it just
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  Speaker 2: becomes this vicious cycle of miserableness. I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 2: there aren't any enraged capitalists or conservatives. There certainly is
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  Speaker 2: some anger on some portions of the right. Won't deny that,
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  Speaker 2: But even the angriest of them can't, I think, seem
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  Speaker 2: to match the rage that comes out of the efforts left.
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  Speaker 2: Think about it. If you're a lefty, why do you
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  Speaker 2: get so hacked off if you see somebody waving a flag?
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  Speaker 2: What does it bother you so much? Let's imagine you're
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  Speaker 2: not patriotic at all. I'm not Jewish. Do I get
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  Speaker 2: bothered if I see somebody with a star of David? No?
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  Speaker 2: Why would that bother me? So? If I'm not patriotic
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  Speaker 2: and I see, you know, all these people wanting around
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  Speaker 2: carrying their flags some foreign countries because of the World Cup,
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  Speaker 2: did that hack me off? If I see somebody running
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  Speaker 2: around with a French flag. By the way, we had
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  Speaker 2: best Steel Days over the weekend. You cannot have a
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  Speaker 2: less French French festival than that. I mean maybe they
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  Speaker 2: had what do they call those things, begnettes or whatever
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  Speaker 2: whatever they call that like bread that seems halfway on
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  Speaker 2: the way to being moldy. Whatever they there's a few
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  Speaker 2: of that. There's nothing French about her. It's just an
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  Speaker 2: excuse for meepal to hanger. As far as I could tell,
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  Speaker 2: it went off just fine. I know that because you
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  Speaker 2: couldn't get a parking place anywhere near downtown, I can't
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  Speaker 2: come in. And how well fist the tow Leanna went.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't go this year anyway. I think being a
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  Speaker 2: Marxist makes you miserable, And the thing of it is,
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  Speaker 2: once we actually become Marxists, they'll be even more miserable.
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  Speaker 2: Think of the characteristic of almost everybody who has lived
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  Speaker 2: ever in a Marxist country. I use this example all
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  Speaker 2: the time because it's perfect. Back in the waning days
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  Speaker 2: of communism in the Soviet Union, they'd show these pictures
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  Speaker 2: of these women standing in line waiting for their allotment
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  Speaker 2: of potato. I didn't set potatoes. They'd get the one potato,
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  Speaker 2: and they'd stand in line all day for the one potato.
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  Speaker 2: And you looked at these people. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 2: just relevantly relates to me, because there's nothing I despise
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  Speaker 2: more in life than lines. My idea of hell would
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  Speaker 2: be one NonStop line that never ends. I can't stand lines.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do almost anything to avoid a long line. Lines
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  Speaker 2: that people think are manageable, I think are brutal. I
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  Speaker 2: lack patience. I acknowledge this. I'm not good with lines. Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: You'd see these old women, and you know, they're in Russia,
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  Speaker 2: so it's like almost always cold, and they've got like
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  Speaker 2: these garments on over them, and they're just they have
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  Speaker 2: the blanks looks on their face, and they were so weathered,
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  Speaker 2: beaten down and ugly. After Communism fell and for the
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  Speaker 2: short for the time being, there was that ray of
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  Speaker 2: sunshine glass lost and Perestroika of Garbatcheff transitioned into Yelson's leadership,
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  Speaker 2: and there was some sense of openness. We got all
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  Speaker 2: this Russian art that came out that had all the
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  Speaker 2: bright colors and so on, and umerous Russians then started
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: coming to the United States and they came over and
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  Speaker 2: we we realized these women are beautiful. I just always
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  Speaker 2: assumed all Russian women were ugly, because the only ones
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  Speaker 2: that ever saw were standing on the breadlands looking miserable.
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  Speaker 2: That means you had women that started out beautiful, they
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  Speaker 2: turned out beaten, down ward, out at a list because
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  Speaker 2: of having to live under Marxism. So now you imagine
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  Speaker 2: the Marxists that we have here, Imagine they get their way.
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  Speaker 2: Now they'll have something to be miserable about. So you
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  Speaker 2: start with people who are in the first place miserable,
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  Speaker 2: and now they're living conditions. They're not the soft ones
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  Speaker 2: that they have here in the United States now, but
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  Speaker 2: the misery of living under Marxism. Look at every Marxist
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  Speaker 2: nation that you have, they're all miserable, and they're all repressed,
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  Speaker 2: and the government eventually takes away all of their rights
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  Speaker 2: because they realize that if they had some rights, they
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  Speaker 2: would get rid of the Marxism that they live underneath.
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  Speaker 2: Let's take this now to another step. This appeared a
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  Speaker 2: few days ago, but I was waiting for the right
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  Speaker 2: day to do it on the podcast, and today is today.
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  Speaker 2: Jason Riley's a columnist for The Wall Street Journal. He
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  Speaker 2: has this piece, and I'm gonna read the headline first
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  Speaker 2: because and I'm gonna share the column. But the headline
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  Speaker 2: tells you where he's coming. Socialism and the decline of
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  Speaker 2: the Black family. I believe this is one of the
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  Speaker 2: most important topics of our time. I've talked about this
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  Speaker 2: for years and years and years. How is it that
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  Speaker 2: the black American family, which in a country that was
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  Speaker 2: far more racist than than it is now, the Black
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  Speaker 2: American family thrived. How is it after the Civil Rights Act,
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  Speaker 2: the Voting Rights Act, after We've passed laws barring much
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  Speaker 2: institutionalized and corporate racism, that the black family seems to
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  Speaker 2: be in tatters? How is that Riley's column alludes to this?
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  Speaker 2: He writes, by now it's clear that Zoronmandani's mayoral victory
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  Speaker 2: in New York last year over former Governor Andrew Cuomo
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  Speaker 2: was less aflute than a harbinger. Non Coastal socialists have
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  Speaker 2: racked up congressional primary victories against established establishment Democrats in
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  Speaker 2: Colorado and Pennsylvania. They've won state and local contests in
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky and Georgia, and are on the ballot in Florida. Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: Minnesota in Wisconsin, these far left candidates aren't hiding their extremism.
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  Speaker 2: They want punishing taxes on the wealthy to fund quote
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  Speaker 2: free daycare, healthcare, housing, and college. Some oppose private property
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  Speaker 2: and prisons, while others view border security as unnecessary and racist.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Conservatives are right to be concerned about the impact on
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  Speaker 2: our free market, capitalist system if enough people with such
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  Speaker 2: views are elected to posis power. But socialism's impact on
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  Speaker 2: the traditional family structure is no less concerning. Children from
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: intact families are more likely to finish school and avoid poverty.
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  Speaker 2: The absence of fathers is strongly correlated with teen parenthood,
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  Speaker 2: drug addiction, and involvement with the criminal justice system. The
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  Speaker 2: cultural anthropologist Margaret Mead, I actually saw her speak back
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  Speaker 2: in the subjects. I know that's not very interesting, but
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I throw it in. The cultural anthropologist Margaret Meade wrote
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  Speaker 2: that quote, every known human society or ust firmly on
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  Speaker 2: the learned nurturing behavior of men, and that civilization quote
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  Speaker 2: depends upon social inventions that will make each generation of
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  Speaker 2: males want to nurture women and children. But socialists such
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  Speaker 2: as Karl Marx and Frederick Ingels dismissed the traditional family
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: as a tool of oppression that had adaninst the patriarchy
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: by exploiting the domestic labor of women. Similar thinking informs
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: today's politicians and policymakers who want to expand the welfare
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  Speaker 2: state to address economic inequality. For them, nuclear families in
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: general and fathers in particular, were an obstacle to central
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  Speaker 2: planning schemes. Ultimately, the state is promoted as the best provider,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and dads are seen as superfluous, if not part of
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  Speaker 2: the problem. The upshot is that preserving the family and
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  Speaker 2: its autonomy is less important to socialists than preserving their
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  Speaker 2: own ability to tell other people how to live their lives.
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  Speaker 2: One of the few real world experiments with this approach
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  Speaker 2: is the Black family, which has been in disarray for
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: more than half a century and is the subject of
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: an important new book, The Vanishing Black Family. How welfare
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and feminism made marriage optional and children vulnerable. The author
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: is Delano Squire's, a Black high a father who focuses
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  Speaker 2: on marriage and parenthood at the Heritage Foundation. He spent
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  Speaker 2: more than a decade employed by the District of Columbia
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  Speaker 2: in a program aimed at reducing gun violence. The book
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  Speaker 2: offers something many others can't, which is a scholarly analysis
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: alongside the astute observations of a practitioner who has lived
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: and worked with the people he's discussing. Squire's contends that
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  Speaker 2: many of the social and economic problems in low income
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: black communities stem from the sad fact that some seventy
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  Speaker 2: percent of black children are born to unwed parents and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: nearly forty five percent live with a single mother. Quote.
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  Speaker 2: Progressives talk a lot about racial disparities and household incomes,
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  Speaker 2: but never seem to include family structure in their calculations.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: He writes, Asians are the highest earners, followed by whites, Hispanics,
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  Speaker 2: and blacks. Similarly, Asians have the highest marriage rates, followed
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  Speaker 2: by whites, Hispanics, and blacks. Maybe it's no coincidence. Politicians,
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  Speaker 2: journalists at academics typically blame the state of the black
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  Speaker 2: family on the country's history of slavery and segregation. Squires
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  Speaker 2: believes that ugly history has played a role, but not
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  Speaker 2: a decisive one. Following emancipation, one of the first things
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  Speaker 2: black people did was seek out spouses and children from
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: whom they had been forcibly separated during slavery. A project
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  Speaker 2: called Last Scene Finding Families after Slavery, has compiled thousands
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  Speaker 2: of ads taken out in hundreds of newspapers nationwide between
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  Speaker 2: the eighteen thirties and nineteen twenties by former slaves searching
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  Speaker 2: for loveloods. Between eighteen ninety and nineteen fifty, black men
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  Speaker 2: and women married earlier and were more likely to be
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  Speaker 2: married by thirty five than their white peers. Squire's writes
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: that suggests Black attitudes toward marriage and child rearing today
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: are the product of incentives and circumstances that developed long
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: after the end of slavery. Quote. More than seventy percent
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: of black children were born to married parents in nineteen
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: sixty five, a century after the abolition of slavery. Today,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: only thirty percent are This may seem counterintuitive to most people,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: but the facts are clear. The black family was more
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: intact after three centuries of chattel slavery than after three
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: generations of the federal government's war on poverty. Squire's as
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Christian faith and deep understanding of the role that the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: black church played in the civil rights victories of the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: nineteen fifties and sixties informed his view that too many
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: black religious leaders have since lost their way. Still, he
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: believes that blacks, including faith leaders, not white liberals, ultimately
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: must drive the effort to restore the black family. Socialism
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: isn't the answer. The column referred in the Wall Street
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Journal Jason Riley My thoughts, Now, the piece does not
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: address one part of this. Why why did the War
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: on poverty create this breakup of the black family? Well,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: look how it was structured. We'll use Wisconsin as an example,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: because Wisconsin went from one of the worst to one
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: of the best states in how we administered family welfare.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: We had something called AFDC aid for families with dependent children.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Every time a woman had a baby, she got a
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: bigger check. Whether you got the check was based on
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: your total family income. So if there's a dad in
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the picture that adds to the income, they might not
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: be eligible at all. So the incentive was for dad
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: not to be there and to pop out as many
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: kids as possible. Many other welfare programs were created like this.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: The incentive was to not have a family together. The
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: government was literally paying you to have children out of wedlock. Now,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: obviously there's good intention behind this, as they say, the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: pathway to hell is paved with good intentions. Well, you
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: have single women that are trying to raise these children.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: They can't work and have three four kids. We've got
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: to give them government assistance. That was the good intention.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: But the problem with all of these leftist programs is
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: they never understand that money is an incentive and the
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: money was rewarding the worst decision. For the longest time,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: people tried to argue that single motherhood wasn't a bad thing.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Famous example was the old Murphy Brown woman Dan Quaile,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the then vice president, rip the TV show Murphy Brown
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: character played by Candice Bergen for having a child while
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: she wasn't married, saying that this is not a lesson
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: we should put on. He was mocked and ridiculed and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: pillared for this. Single mothers can create just as good
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: as families as married couples. Even many on the left
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: are now acknowledging that dan Quayle was right. If you
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: just talk all of the kids under the age of
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: sixteen in the state of Wisconsin that are either in
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the juvenile prison Ethan Allen, or in juvenile supervision or
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: in the juvenile justice system, etc. I'm telling you the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: overwhelming majority of them come from homes in which there
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: isn't a dad at home. The next largest group would
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: be those that have a dad who's involved in their
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: lives but doesn't live with them. And then the highest group.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I'm doing this in reverse order. The highest group would
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: be the ones in which there's no dad at all
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: in the picture. So we know that this is the case.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: So socialism, the creation of more and more government programs,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: it all is going to make this worse. Of the
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: sense that we have been socialized so far, with all
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: of these welfare programs, it's all made everything worse, the
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: gap between the rich and the poor. I've argued with
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: my conservative friends on this forever and ever and ever.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: The Trump ra has finally gotten some of the In
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: a kmarn right, we're gon say, forever and ever, it's
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: not true when the left you say the rich are
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: getting rich or the poor or getting poor. It is true.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: We're seeing an erosion of the middle class in this country.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: The War on Poverty, which was established back in the
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixties, was supposed to deal with that. It's made
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: it all worse. Why because when you give people something
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: when they are underachieving, you're rewarding the underachievement. When you
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: create the safety debt, of which it really is a
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: safety net that you can survive. At the level of
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: this net, it creates a disincentive to busting your butt
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to get ahead. When you look at the countries that
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: have gone Marxist socialists, you tend to have very little
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: work ethic, a lot of idleness. The economy starts to erode,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: innovation starts to end all of that. Now, let's go
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to my first point that I started with this that
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: anti capitalist Marxists are miserable. So you're not going to
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: have more and more people on the door, more and
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: more unhappy, more and more reliant on the government, and
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: miserable in the process and the way out getting out
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: of this, figuring out a way to get ahead and
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: getting out of this miserableness. I want to share another story.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I won't name names here because she's involved in some
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: difficulties right now, but there's a local developer. Her proposal
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: to get an affordable housing project going company is called
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: AC in South Milwaukee has fizzled. Those are hard developments
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: to get done, but she's a developer. What late thirties,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I think she came to the United States when she
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: was a young girl from East Africa. The story that's
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: been told that has been written about her mother came
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: here and was a housekeeper. The girl said that I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: helped my mother. I always the one that cleaned the toilets.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: She's not a developer. You took about somebody who had
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: it roughened far worse than people who are born here.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: But there was clearly an incentive to get ahead and
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: make it in this instance, the squalor that they probably
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: came from was the real incentive to try to bust
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: out of it and get ahead. Only capitalism offers the
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: ability to get ahead. What a socialism offer the ability
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: to get by. That's its great promise, minimum guaranteed income,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: we'll give you this, We'll give you that free, ran free,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: that's free. And others get by by funding all of
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: this from the people who are trying to get ahead.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: We are not only a society of incentives or a
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: society of disincentives. The old story about you'll never see
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: a person running fast and than when the chase by
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: a bear in the woods probably pruth to that you
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: can't really loaf when the bear is chasing you in
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the woods. The more miserable. The alternative, the harder people
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: will act to avoid that miserable situation. And again I'm
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: not saying there shouldn't be a safety net. I'm a
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: much bigger fan of private sector safety nets. I think
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: right wingers like myself who argue against welfare and I
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: argue against social assistants who done don't support charitable endeavors
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: to help less fortunate people their phonies. We have an
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: obligation to help our fellow man and to help the poor.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I think, however, when it's government that's provided the help
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: in its long term subsistence that doesn't do anything to
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: encourage people to get out of the situation they're in,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: it is destructive rather than constructive. I could do nothing
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: but talk about the Marxist threat for the remainder of
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the year in the podcast and only still scratch the surface.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I haven't gotten into the other reasons why people are
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: miserable in the first place, that they are gravitating towards socialism,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: like I think the number of young people that are
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: put on meds early in life who have their senses dulled,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the number of people that are on antidepressants that put
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: themselves in this malaise, all the people that are smoking
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: pot taking away all of their ambition in life, not
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: to mention the fact of the miserable role models that
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: they've had by coming from broken families in the first place,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: the need to I'm so miserable, I've got to become
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: a guy, even though I'm a girl. All of this
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: is fueled by misery and unhappiness. And when none if
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: it works, you become even more miserable and unhappiness, and
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: you look for somebody to blame, and you blame the country,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and therefore you claim the country owes you even more,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: which makes everything worse by putting in place policies that
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: make everyone miserable. Lindsey Graham died. There's two parts of
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: this story. Let's first of all, assess one of the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: highest profile members of the United States, Senate Lindsey Graham
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: was a polarizing figure within Republican politics. The left didn't
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: like him either. It's hard to say if he was
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a moderate Republican or not. He certainly was an institutional Republican,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: but he was also part. You know, the conservative movement
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: right now has been divided into two camps. With regard
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to foreign there are the interventionists, the ones who are
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: looking for us to stick our beacon everything. That was
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the wing that Graham was part of. And then there's
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the isolationist Rand Paul, for example, who don't think we
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: should get involved in anything. I've come to the conclusion
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: that both grooves are necessary. I'm about to make an
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: outstanding point for those of you who hear all of
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: my points and can't tell which ones are really good.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: This is one of them. I've talked forever about the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: founding of our nation and the great fortune that we
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: had that there were two completely different ideological wings. The
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: one thing they had in common is they wanted independence.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: They wanted us out from underneath the thumb of the British.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: But in forming the nation, they had very different views
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: about how you put together a group of states and
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: turned them into a country. There were the federalists, the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: ones who believed in a strong federal government who largely
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: looked upon the states as just geographical divisions in all lines.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: And then there were the anti federalists, those who believed
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: strongly in states rights, who wanted a federal government that
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: barely had any role at all. John Adams and Alexander
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Hamilton were two of the big federalists. Thomas Jefferson was
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: one of the anti federalists who came to be called
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: democrats early on that clash. The question to me isn't
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: who was right and who was wrong. I think they
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: were both half right and they were both half wrong. Therefore,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: having those two ideologically battled it out and producing a
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: government that was a compromise of the two principles gave
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: us a country in which we still do have states
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: rights and states identities. People who want to live under
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: saying laws can live in South Carolina, whereas people who
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: want to live in a Loonti bin can have California.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: But we also have principles and rights that none of
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the states can take away. The first amendments in place
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: in all fifty states, as it's the second. You can't
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: fight a war with individual states. You need a federal
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: government to do that. There is clearly a role for both.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I know. Take this to the current state of the
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Republican Party. There are some lately, I'll call it the
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson wing, named by the way, nobody's picked up
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: on my observation of Tucker Tucker has lost his marbles
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep repeating until I see somebody
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: else pick a. I think the guy is addicted to nicotine.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: He created this company that's selling it's this competitors in
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: it's these nicotine poaches that you have. He's got the
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: nicotine pouch in his mouth twenty four hours a day.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: He's wired out of his mind and it's addled his brain.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: When you watch his old TV show that was on Fox,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: if you see anything is he never talked fast the
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: way that he did now, and he never contradicted himself.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Right in the middle of each sentence, he'll say something
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that he adds something in a common movement. Well, there's
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: also that I think he's on nicotine, and I think
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: his nicotine is frying his brain. Anyway, He's the guy
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: that has managed to go from pro Israel but anti war,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: to then oppose to the Israeli government, to then seemingly
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: now opposed to all Jews, and now finally openly embracing Islam.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: There are the isolationist wing of the Republican Party who
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: would almost argue that, no matter what the threat is
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: to the United States, so we shouldn't be using military
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: acting military action. If it's outside our borders, and there's
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: validity to a large portion of that. We had clearly
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: gone too far. The interventionism of both bushes has since,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I think, proven to have failed. Then there's the flip side.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: There are the Republicans that the movement was best described
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: as the neo cons and I was once in that camp.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: They believed in a very very strong American military, and
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: they believed that American interests were essentially Planet Earth, that
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: everything that happened anywhere in the world affected us, so
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: therefore we should be sticking our beacon and everywhere in
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the world to protect our interests. Lindsey Graham was in
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: that category. I think in order to find the best
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: overall policy, you need to have both wings of those
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: press because in some instances the interventionist may actually be
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: correct and in other instances that I would say more
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I still lean more toward the other side. I'll call
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: it using somebody that I respect for the Rand Paul
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: wing rather than the Lindsey Graham wing. I'm probably closer
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: to that way, but that doesn't mean that there aren't
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: times in which I feel the need to act, and
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I feel Iran has been one of those situations that
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: protecting the United States means that you can have a
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: country that becomes nuclear and also controls much of the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: world's will supply when espousing radical hatred believes and willing
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: to commit mass murder of the rest of the world anyway.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: So I think Lindsay Graham was an important contributor to that. Secondly,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Prump obviously came to power in twenty sixteen. Warring was
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: almost the entire Republican establishment, and many of those old
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: bulls could never get past the fact that he won.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Some of them became never Trumpers, some of them stayed
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Republicans but just despised Trump. Mitch McConnell would be one
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: in that category. Mitt Romney would be one in that category.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham was an ally of those people. But, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: this is to his credit, Lindsey Graham became one of
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the strongest supporters of President Trump in the entire United
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: States Senate. Rather than get his nose out of joint
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: that somebody that wasn't part of the establishment like him
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: got power, and rather than be infuriated that somebody that
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: had different beliefs on some issues than him was in power,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham realized that the best way to advance his
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: own agenda was to work with that guy. He was
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: one of the most reliable votes Trump had in the Senate.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: As an example, the legislation that has been stymied in
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: the Senate, the Save America Act, the legislation that puts
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: in place modest protections for the integrity of elections, like
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: requiring citizenship in order to vote, photo I needs to vote,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and so on. Lindsey Graham championed that. In fact, there
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: are people who are now saying that the best thing
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: that we can do to honor his memory is to
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: get that bill passed Marsha Blackburn, the Senator from Tennessee,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: since she wants to name the bill after Lindsey Graham
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and finally get it over the finish line. There are
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: other issues in which I didn't agree with Lindsay Graham.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: He was, as I say, way too much of an institutionalist.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Here's one of these guys that was against getting rid
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: of the filibuster. He believed in great deference to senatorial
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: privilege and all that crap. But again the flip side
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: of that. Because of that, let's go back to the
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: twenty eighteen I think was the year Breck cut Cavetol
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: nominated to the United States Supreme Court. It hadn't turned
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: on to be the greatest justice, but he is more
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: often than not conservative. He was slimed. People brought up
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: allegations they had a woman's surface that Bret Cavana took
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: sexual advantage of her way back when they were in college.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Although she couldn't even name the year. Her story was
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: filled with holes, and this was the best they could
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: do during those confirmation hearings. The most passionate and remembered
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: speech on the floor of the Senate it was in
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: the committee, actually in the Judiciary Committee on behalf of
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Cavanaugh was Lindsey Grahams in which he decried the politics
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: of personal destruction and the sliming and lying about people
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: in an attempt he stopped Eastern Americans and be able
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: to serve the country as federal judges. Graham clearly moved
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the needle on that, and the fact that he was
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: not one of these traditional mega Republicans gave his position credibility.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: He was disliked on the left and for a lot
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: of reasons. There were rumors about his sexual preference and
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: all of this stuff and just the belief that liberals said, well,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: then you have to be a you have to be
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: a Democrat. The thing that I think Graham deserves the
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: most credit for is the fact that he was hardly
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: a mega Republican, yet he became a loyal supporter and
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: ally of President Trump regardless. The next part of this story, though,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: seems ghoulish to talk about immediately, but you have to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: who replaces This is reducing the Republican margin in the
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: United States Senate by yet another vote. And this is
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: at the same time that we don't know what the
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: hell is going on with Mitch McConnell. More on that
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: in a moment. The process in South Carolina calls for
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: the governor in the very very short term to name
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: or replacement, and that can be almost instantly. So you
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: should be able to get another Republican vote to replace
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Lindsay very very quickly. But there is an election than
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: to fill out his term, and under South Carolina law
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: it happens real fast. They're talking about having a primary
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: in a month. South Carolina has a system in which
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: you have to have the runoff elections if somebody doesn't
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: get fifty percent, so they'll have a Republican primary, perhaps
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: as soon as next month. If multiple candidates run and
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: nobody gets fifty percent, the top two vote getters advanced
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: to a runoff two weeks later. That could happen by
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: the end of August, and then you have the general
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: election against the Democrat, probably in September. So this happens
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: very very fast. Lindsey Graham, to my knowledge, was not
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: thought to be sick, so it's not like a lot
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: of politicians at South Carolina were plotting jumping into this race.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: So I think it gives tremendous advantage to those that
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: already are in politics and with a name recognition. Jay
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Weber has raised the question of whether or not Nikki Haley,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: the former governor of the state, would run. She's obviously
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: even more from the institutional wing of the party than
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham and somebody who doesn't like Trump. But if
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: five or six or seven candidates choose to run at
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the last moment, she clearly would have more name recognition
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: than any of them. I wouldn't be surprised if Nancy
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Mays gets in this now. Nancy Race ran for governor
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: and despite having the highest name recognition, if any of
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: them got destroyed. I think fourth or fifth of the
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Republican primary. People just don't like her, mostly because she's weird.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: There will be others that run as well, And obviously
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know the names of every Republican in South Carolina,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: but South Carolina is a very Republican state. Who Ever
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: wins this quick primary and then general election could be
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: a United States Senator there for twenty years. Now, let's
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: deal with McConnell. Mitch McConnell, the Senator from Kentucky and
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: arguably the most anti Trump member of the United States Senate.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Nonetheless someone whose vote is critical given the fact that
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: the Republicans have this narrow majority in the Senate. McConnell
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: went into the hospital a while ago and there were
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: no reports, no reports, no reports, no reports. And over
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the weekend you put out a statement and they released
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a photo of he and his wife, Elaine Chow, sitting
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: up in the hospital. There's now the people that are
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: questioning this photograph. Elon Musk's AI is called Groc. Groc
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: says the photo was fake. And you know, as somebody
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: who's used open AI, which is very flawed but not terrible,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: somebody who's used Google's program, which is pretty good, and
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: has used groc Rock's pretty good and it picked up
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: and a lot of things in the photo that made it
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: seem like this was a legit. I don't know if
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: it is or it isn't. Now McConnell was said to
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: have fallen. Mitch McConnell has always been kind of frail
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: of foot. Mitch McConnell had polio as a young man,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: the last people to get it. I think they called
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: it pre polio. And now that he's gotten old, he's
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: fallen quite a bit, and he fell again. Both parties
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: are raising this question of whether or not Mitch McConnell
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: is fit to be in the United States Senate. Some
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Republicans are raising it because they'd like to see a
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: more Republican senator in there. Some Democrats are raising it
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: because in the interim that's one vote taken away, and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: if there is an appointment, the governor of Kentucky is
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: a Democrat, now that position would again be one that
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: would be filled via election. I want to go back
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: to the Lindsay Graham situation real quickly. What complicates the
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Lindsay Graham thing even more is Graham was up for
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: election this year. This year, so that's why you need
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: to get the Republican candidate in place to be on
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: the ballot in the November election. He had already won
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the South Carolina primary this year. There was a Conservative
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: that ran against him this year. They some states haven't
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: had their primaries yet, like Wisconsin, but South Carolina already
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: held this and they won. So they rather than have
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: the party name someone, there will be an election to
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: put somebody on the ballot to serve out that term.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I want to move to the latest we have on
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: the illegal immigrant Laotian nationalist that Tim Walls pardoned in Minnesota.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: This guy was a child rapist. The Clemency Review Board,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: which is appointed by Waltz, voted four to two to
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: recommend his release from prison. The actual board that then
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: votes consists of the radical Attorney General in Minnesota, Keith Ellison,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: and the radical governor Tim Watson, another appointee. They voted
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: to release the guy. There's been a document's request to
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: come up with the rationale that the Clemency Review Board
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: came up with in voting to recommend the release of
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: the guy, and one of the things that they cited
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: is if he didn't have his record cleared, and the
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: clemency that he was granted isn't just a mutation of
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: his sentence, it's a wiping out of his conviction, so
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: it's not even on his record. And they cited this
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: in particular that when his sentence was up, he was
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: certain to be deported if they didn't get rid of
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: this conviction. That would be an argument, in my opinion,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: not to take it away with the position that right
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: now we have and this is not an exaggeration leftists
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: right now they always have a soft spot for criminals.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: They have a softer spot for illegal immigrants who commit
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: crimes than Americans who commit crimes. I swear even among
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: the lefties, you don't see a lot of them releasing
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: child rapists from prison. This guy specifically got released because
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: he was an illegal immigrant who was a child rapist.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: The Minnesota situation is very important for us to consider
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: now why because Wisconsin is very close to going the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: same way. We have a candidate for governor of Wisconsin
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: who is not only as radical as Waltz, I would
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: say to her left Francesca Hon could be the Democratic
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: nominee for governor of Wisconsin and she could win. We
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: already have the Supreme Court liberal both chambers of the
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Legislature are up for grabs this election. If we lose
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: both of them and the governorship, we become We've talked
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: about Minnesota. Let's make it more direct, our next door neighbor.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: We become Minnesota, and this crap happens here. Now, there
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: is good news. The Trump administration has moved to deport
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: the Laotian national. Despite the fact that he doesn't have
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: a criminal record, he was still still here illegally and
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: they have deported him. The problem, of course, is if
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: he tries now that he's been deported to re enter
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: the country, he does so with a clean record in
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: terms of crime, because that conviction in Minnesota was wiped out,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: so he could theoretically try to come back in after
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: a period of time to the front door. But in
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: the meantime, thanks to Trump, he's been deported. This irrational
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: hatred of Ice just seems to be private. What the
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: media tends to do is they find the most the
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: nicest person in the world who's an illegal immigrant who
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a criminal record, and that they move to
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: deport that person. They go on and on and on
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: and on and on about it. But the real problem,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: obviously is those that are committing separate crimes after being
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: here illegally, and my point that they don't differentiate on
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: the left. That's the one that Hannah Dogud was protecting.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: He was in her courtroom accused of a crime, yet
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: she became a felon in her attempt to stop Ice.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I'm getting him an attempt that didn't even work. Work. Boy,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I covered a lot of territory in there. We're going
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: to return our attention to the state of Wisconsin directly
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: when we come back on the Mark Belling Podcast. This
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling Podcast. The print edition of the
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee Journal Setinel, which about nine people still receive. Still
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: it's out there, and well, as I say, the perct
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: circulation is plummeted, it's still the highest circulation of any
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: print newspaper, obviously in southeastern Wisconsin. Story here and I
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: talk a lot about the problem with bias and the
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: media is two things. The media's ability to not cover something,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: meaning people sometimes even me don't find out about it.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: But then also the passive America, the one that isn't
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: really left or right, that doesn't question anything and just
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: kind of soaks all of the in and takes it in.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: In this instance, my focus of the story is the headline.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: You know a newspaper, say, have a headliner, and then
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: a subhead, a big headliner and then a smaller headline
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: underneath it. DOJ. That's the Feds DOJ Warren's state over
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: non citizen voting. And then the subhead Trump focuses on issue,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: but incidents are rare. This steals with the fact the
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: federal government is investigating the state of Wisconsin over the
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: fact that we haven't done anything to try to purge
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: the voting rules of non citizens. The subhead here from
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: the Journal, Trump focuses on the issue, but incidents are rare. Oh,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: a great time for me to shirt out one of
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: my favorite quotes of all time I quoted all the
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: time from the brilliant movie Fargo, the character played by
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Francis mcdarmond Marge Gunderson. But Hadi, and how do we
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: know these incidents are rare? You see, well, hardly anybody's
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: been caught. Exactly the point, it's very hard to determine
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: if someone is a non citizen voting because there's not
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: a database of voters that are non citizens. I'm talking
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: now primarily here about not illegal immigrants, legal immigrants who
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: are not citizens. I'm in Florida four months a year.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: It's crawling with people that are here legally but they're
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: not citizens. They're primarily from the Islands. They are in
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the United States. They either work visas or they're visiting immigrants.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: They're all legal, but they're not citizens. Some are starting
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: the process for citizenship, which take years. Others are not.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: We have numerous people in the United States legally. Many
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: of them work for the big companies. I mean, Northwestern
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Mutual has zillions of people in tech who based on
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: as somebody who lives near there. It sure looks like
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of them are from India. They're here on
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: summerre on H one bvs as. Some here are on
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: prominent immigrant status. Many of them are not yet citizens
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: in the United States. We have doctors that come to
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: the United States and they're not yet citizens. Many may
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: be pursuing it. And then let's add in the tens
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: of thousands, hundreds of thousands of the state that are
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: illegal immigrants. When they register to vote, there isn't anything
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: that they have to do to show citizenships. So how
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: do we know that they're not citizens when they're voting?
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Their name is on there unless somebody digs into their past,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: which is still very hard. There's no database that we
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: have that I'm aware of that says non citizen. I
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: don't even know if we have a database that says citizens.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: When I think of the search engines that we have
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: to look up, and you can look up anything on people.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: You can look at the age, you can I mean,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: you've got to be really anonymous if you can't find
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: somebody's agent, birthday, and their address. All that stuff's out there,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: but there's almost nothing that states their citizenship status. So
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: how do we know it's rare? And again then the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: word rare? What does rare mean? We're a state that
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: in the presidential election is about three and a half
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: million people vote. What's rare four or twenty nine thousand?
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: We've had a presidential election and the governor's racing this
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: state decided by less of that. The other point that
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I always make on this is why do you make
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: a big deal It hardly ever happens, Which is youngerment
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: it seemed to be making here I could reverse that that.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Why are you making a big deal about it wouldn't
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: affect hardly anybody If you're right that virtually no non
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: citizens are voting, Why in the world would you be
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: upset if we crack downer to make sure that only
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: citizens still vote. Furthermore, who a you worrying about disenfranchising
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: a headline anyway? But incidents are rare if you come
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: up with no court that you can remember ever other
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: than the Marge gunderseat. It applies to the media almost
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: anybody who tells how do you know? Somebody just say something,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: and in many cases they may be telling the truth,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: others not, but they're making all sorts of assumptions that say,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: how do you know? Sometimes you do know? In this case,
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: who wrote that? Now? I can't blame the reporter for
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: the headline. Reporters don't write the headline. It's Molly Beck's piece.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: I swear if she was a headline writer, she would
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: have written this headline, knowing how where she comes from.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: But her story in here never actually uses those words,
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: but she alludes to it next. This story is also
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: a story in which my point in bringing it up
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: is only the headline. It's also from the journal settled.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I don't think they were the same day anyway. Headline
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Democrats at war for parties future. The story is about
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: It's written by Susan Page, and her lead is it's
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: a war. In this case, you can blame the reporter
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: for the headline. In his early it's a war. Susan
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Page is referring to the battle going on within the
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Democratic Party between the Marxists and the traditional Democrats for
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: control of the party. And she's using as a proxy
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the situation in Man where you had Platner, the Marxist,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: now dropping out of the race after all of these
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: scandals were brought up on his life and so on,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: and now the battle over whether or not he's going
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: to be replaced by the Democratic Party with another radical
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: or if they choose a more traditional Democrat. And the
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: story says Democrats are at war. They're not a war.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: If this is a war, it's a war being fought
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: with pea shooters. Let's take Wisconsin, which is like right
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: in the middle of this, we have a Democratic primary
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: for governor in which the leading candidate is one of
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: the Marxists, and the Democratic establishment is now beginning an
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: effort to try to stop her from winning. This isn't
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: a war. They're terrified of even criticizing the Marxist Francesca Hung.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: They'll plant a few stories in the media, but the
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: leader of the mainstream of the Democratic candidates running, the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: most mainstream of the and the one back by the
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: party bosses, Sarah Rodriguez, she won't criticize Hang at all.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: A war at least requires criticism of the other side.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: One of the reasons why I think the Marxists will
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: win this battle for control of the Democratic Party is
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: the traditional Democrats are rolling over and not fighting back.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, we have a story on Sarah Rodriguez.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: This is quite the story the Democratic leadership has anointed.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: They realize that in this multi candidate race, but there
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: were seven candidates in the US that Francesca Honk could win.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: We don't have a runoff in Wisconsin. You don't need
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: fifty percent in the primary. It's simply the one who
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: has the most votes. And the fear they had was
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: that Francesca Honk can get twenty nine or thirty percent
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: and win, that the others would divide it all up.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Their double worry is the second place candidate Mandela Barnes.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: They don't like him either. He's close to a radical
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: as Hong, but he's also somebody with an incredible number
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: of skeletons in his closet and approven ability to lose
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: a statewide election. Having lost to Ron Jodds, so the
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: nighted alternative of Sarah Rodriguez, the lieutenant governor. They got
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: one candidate to drop out of the race a few
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, Missy Hughes, who I think of all the
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Democrats running would have been maybe the second toughest for
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: the Republicans to beat. They got her to drop out.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: She was the Secretary of Administration under Tony Ebers And
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: now a few days ago they got Milwaukee County Executive
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: David Crowley to drop out. Crowley, again, the old Democrat,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: has the same views as the most of them, but
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: not an artist. They got him to drop out. Joel
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Brennan hasn't dropped out yet, but the pressure on his
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: campaign is overwhelming for him to get out of the race.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: So they've anointed Sarah rod regaz and they're going to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: try to get all the money that they can from
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: regular old Democrat donors funneled into her over the next
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: several weeks so that she can survive. But there's a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: developing story today. Sarah Rodriguez has just fired her campaign manager.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Let me give you a little bit shorthanded politics. When
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: do candidates fire their campaign managers when the campaign's going
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: to hell. Whether you're a Republican Democrat or whatever, when
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: the campaign manager is fired, it's because there's a desperate
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: need for a shakeup. There are many who believe that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan never would have been elected president if he
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: had not fired his long time associate John Sears in
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. John Sears worked with them in California, was
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: involved in his campaign in seventy six, got fired by Reagan.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Early out of the nineteen eighties came that brought in,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: basically the people who went on and ran the administration.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Reagan ha been spinning his wheels. I think he lost Iowa.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Who the first Bush by your campaign manager, it's a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: sign of trouble. In this case, it's even more trouble
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: than that. Sarah rod Reage's apparently her campaign finance statements
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: are all screwed up. It's not a case of violating
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: the law yet, because the deadline to report the donations
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: has not cleared, but according to the report on js
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: online Today by the Ubiquitous Molly Beck, numerous donations were
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: reported multiple times. In other words, somebody gave and then
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: it would show up again and again and again, which creates,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: first of all, you can't do that, but secondly, it
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: created the appearance that she had raised more money than
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: she did. So the campaign manager, veteran lefty Kara Spencer, fired,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: and in this firing, the Rodriguez campaign is making it
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: clear it's a firing. This isn't moving on to pursue
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: other opportunities. Occasionally somebody will leave a campaign to go
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: to work for a pack that backs the candidate. That's
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: not what this is. They started a press release saying
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: bouncing her, and they come right out and stayed in
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: the press release that they discovered problems in the campaign
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: stated quote after discovering serious mismanagement and inaccuracies in campaign
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: finance reports. So the candidate that the Democrat establishment has
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: anointed as somebody who can't even run a campaign. Usually,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Democratic voters do what they're told, and in the end,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: they're all being told, right now, you vote for Sarah
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: for Republicans who simply want to win and beat any
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: of them. I have said, and I ranked them earlier
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: that the toughest Democrat to beat of all of them
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: in the race was Joel Brennan. The second toughest would
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: have been Missy Hughes. The reason for both of those
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: is they're the two smartest of the ones running. They're
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: also the two most moderate and the two that are
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: most qualified. But it's for all of those reasons that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: they were getting nowhere among the lefties. Missy Hughes checked
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: only one of the boxes of groups that Democrats like,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: and Joel Brennan just a white guy. I would say
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: probably tied for third and fourth would be Crowley and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Sarah Rodriguez. So I don't even know right now how
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: much money Sara Rodriguez has raised and if her campaign
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: manager couldn't even get the filiest correct, how screwed up
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: has been the operation of the rest of the campaign.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Not a green Bay. You know, the lefties always tell
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: us there's no election of regularities, no election of regularities.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: There's one word that we in Wisconsin have to bring
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: up to excuse me, almost clearly two words. I was
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: about to make a stupid mistake, but I caught myself
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: in the fly correcting my stupid mistake before I made
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: the stupid mink. There are two words that we could
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: cite with people say there is no irregularities elections in
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin to Those words are green and Bay. Green Bay
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: was more screwed up in the sixteen and twenty elections
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: than Milwaukee. The city of Green Bay itself is very
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: liberal and the mayor is extremely liberal. Getting Brown County
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: itself is marginally Republican. The areas outside of Green Bay,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: the suburbs are really really republican. Howard Alloway, Swamaco a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: little bit of the depeer It's right stone in Brown County.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Some of those areas very very republic The city green
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Bay is rather democratic. That's the City of Green Bay clerk.
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  Speaker 2: She's been placed on leave by the city. It's finally
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: gone too far. It has been revealed that she has
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: set out hundreds of duplicate ballots for the upcoming August
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: primary election, with only vague explanations as to how this
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: could happen. The Wisconsin Election Commission met last week and
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: called for a statewide investigation. Now we know that the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin Election Commission tends to be a hero and a
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: evil scene whoevery when it comes to election violations. But
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: the situation in Green Bay is so bad that even
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: they've called for an investigation. So the clerk, Celestine Jeffries,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: has been placed on leave. Quoting from the report from
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: the Green Bay Press Gazette, which is part of Annet,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: which is yes online, the city announced that Jeffreys has
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: been placed on administrative leave pending the investigation and internal review. Quote,
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  Speaker 2: the elections are a critical piece of the work we
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: perform at the city. While we have no concerns with
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: the security or propriety of the electoral process, these errors
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: in the Clerk's office are unacceptable, a statement of the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: city reads. The statement also says the city welcomes the
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: input of the Election Commission and will cooperate with the investigation.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: In April, I made a mistake and I said the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: upcoming primary. This is actually in April, the spring election
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: that this is discovered. In April, the Clerk's office send
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: duplicate absentee ballots to one hundred duplicate ballots to one
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty two absentee voters, prompting an elections complaint
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: by the Republican Party of Wisconsin. In June, the city
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: again made duplicate ballots. Eight wards on the city's west
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: sidewards eleven, eight, twelve, A, thirty seven, eight forty four, five, six,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: forty seven, and parts of Ward forty three were affected.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: In more than two hundred VO owners received applicate ballots,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: according to Green Bay City council member Melinda Ack, who
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: sent an email to the commission expressing serious concerns. Now,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: I mean you can sort of see how this might happen.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Somebody puts in a request for an absentee ballad, end,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: somebody process it, and then somebody else didn't know his
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: processed and said on another but this isn't on an
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: individual basis. These were hundreds of them, meaning they set
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: them out, then they set them out again. There's no
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: evidence that this was corruption because we don't know which
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: candidate would have been advantaged by this, but it's certainly
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: an example of incredible incompetence. I've been making this case
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: forever and ever and ever that Wisconsin has three kinds
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: of municipal clerks. The largest group consists of Group two
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: dead ass Leez people. Then there's worse dead ass lazy
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: people who aren't any good. The first group has competent,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: hard working clerks, and there are some that are in
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: this and a lot of the clerks that are in
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Group one think that I'm slurring them when I talk
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: about the others. Many of these clerks to the minimal
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: amount of work. They don't offer extended hours for early
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: in person voting to match the extended hours that Milwaukee
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: and Madison have. They look upon running an election as
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: an inconvenience. The worst of some of these part time
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: rural clerks. If you can't provide proper election service, don't
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: apply for the job in the first place. But then
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: you have some that an initition to being lazier, are
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: just bad. And I don't know that there's any evidence
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: that the Green Bay clerk was lazy, because in leftist
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: cities they rarely want a lazy clerk, because if it's
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: a leftist city, they want the voter turn on as
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: high as possible. But she's a very just lousy at
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: her job. They didn't do anything about it after the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: problem in April, and finally the one you and got
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: the state to investigate, and that finally got the Green
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Bay mayor off his ass and they decided to put
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: her on leave. But we're always so indications of electiony
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: regularities when consent are very very non existent. All right,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: this story, this is a story with a real twist.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Fourth of July weekend, there was another problem. This one
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: was bad in the Water Street area of Milwaukee. For
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: those of you not from Milwaukee, Water Street is where
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of the bars are, but it's also runs
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: right through the heart of the downtown, and then as
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: you go further south runs right is kind of the
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: edge of the third ward. So where you are on
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Water Street that matters in terms of where the issues are,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: because the street is very, very different depending on where
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: you are. When you get kind of north of Wells
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: and Kilbourne on Water in downtown Milwaukee, that's the bar
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: strict and so on. And on weekends. For several years
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: there have been weekends in which it really goes to hell.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: There have been street closings and street takeovers. The police
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: presence has been very very high, And as I've commented
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: in many instances, the primary problem is not the people
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: who are in the bars. The problem is people who
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: don't intend to go in the bars, who just go
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: down to the area because that's where the crowd is form.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Often they are people, young people that come in from
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: the central city that aren't even old enough to drink,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: but they come down and they're raising all this huge
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: roucous outside the bars where the streets are, and there
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: have been problems, including violence that's happened during this Well,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: we had an incident on the July fourth weekend that
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: was really bad. Quote from the js online report. Milwaukee
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Police officers were conducting crowd control duties in the Water
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Street district around two fifteen am July fifth, So that
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: would have been Sunday morning at fourth of July Saturday,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: so two fifteen in the morning, Saturday night turning into
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Sunday after a Code red assignment related to Fourth of
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: July celebrations, Code ready. As they sent Estra officers down there,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: things are out of control. Officers saw a black Audi
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: S six. Do you know anything about cars, Jason, You
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: do know the S six s the s Audi. A
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: lot of these foreign cars, they'll have like a guzzied
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: up version of the car and they will add a
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: letter before the number. The Audi. A six is a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: mainstream sedan. The S six is kind of a souped
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: up version. Do they still have the RS six I
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: don't know. I mean the sedans they so backed off on,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: but the S and then the RS is even oh
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: y S six this is and again it doesn't state
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: the year. It could be quite old, but usually this
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: is a rather expensive car and it's you know, it's
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: kind of the Germany. It's one of those types of
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: cars mercede as one like this BMW. They call themselves
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: the m Mercedes calls it the AMG. It's like a
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: family sedan type car that's tuned up with a bigger
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: engine in the whole thing. Anyway, that's the vehicle and
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: ODS six driving in circles in a parking lot. And
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: again this is the kind of thing that you see
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: during these street takeovers. They'll at cars are just driving
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: around and drive driving around, kind of like doing burnouts
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: and circles. Thirteen O one North Edison. This would be,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: as I say, right in the heart of the northern
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: portion of the Water Street area where the bars are.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: You know, you keep going farther north and Edison is
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: one of the streets that kind of angles into Water Street.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Doing circles in a parking lot. Thirteen to one North
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: Edison where multiple people were standing nearby. So the people
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: would do this stuff and then the crowd forms to watch.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: And remember it's two fifteen, it's when the bars are closing.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: So in addition to the underages here, it's when the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: people are leave on the bars the whole time. And
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: this is the time of night when things are off
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: in bet so the police are responding. Moments later, police
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: heard numerous gunshots coming from the area where the Audi
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: had been driving. When officers responded to the parking lot,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: one officer approached the driver's side of the Audi, used
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: a flashlight and ordered the driver to get out of
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: the vehicle. The driver ignored the commands and accelerated, nearly
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: striking the officer. Another officer said, the Audi then sped
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: toward a different officer, striking her. So you now have
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: the person driving this car. The cop could and to
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: get out of the car. Instead, he stays driving wildly,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: almost hits the first cop and then hits another cop.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: She dies. This is homicide. Now I want to stress
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: she hadn't died, but I want to continue with the story.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: The officer had pain and a visible injury to her
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: lower leg, which taken to a hospital for treatment. She
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: told investigators she fired her gun and an attempt to
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: stop the vehicle from continuing to hit her and others.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Several officers fired at the Audi as it fled the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: parking lot, according to the complaint, so now he hits
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: the one officer after driving after others, so the police
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: obviously are firing. The vehicle continues to have continuing Investigators
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: later found nine casings from officers weapons at the scene,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: along with twenty casings from multiple other firearms, three bullet fragments,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: an iarsoft pistol, and a glock firearm with a full
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: auto switch. Now presumably these are shots that were fired,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: not by the police. The glock with a full auto
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: switch blocks are pistols. And the difference beteing a semi
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: automatic weapon and an automatic weapon is the semi automatic
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: weapon you have to pull the trigger each time to
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: fire a shot, and the media always calls everything semi
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: automatic weapons, and people think that these are a aks
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: and ars and so on. Semi Automatic means you pull
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: the trigger, pull the trigger, pull the trigger. The modifier
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: that puts it in place essentially has the trigger constantly pulled,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: so you can unload the magazine faster. That's what, according
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: to the complaint, one of the weapons had had done
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: to them. See if everybody's from an airsoft pistol, just
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: fighting a fake gun essentially to somebody taking a modified
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: glock and firing them. This is the wild West. And
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: again it was you know jly Forth. I remember the
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: night very well because my birthday. It's just beautiful outside
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: in terms of the temperature, it was warm, nice night.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: The crowd must have been massive, and all of this
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: is going on. Back to the story. Police said at
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: least one vehicle was struck by gunfire and dozens of
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: people were in the immediate area after leaving the parking lot.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: No the driver, he's still in the car. He flees,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: fled at a high rate of speed, swerving around vehicles,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: eventually an oncoming traffic lane, and eventually ran a lead
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: light near eleven hundred west findal Lac Habitat. For those
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: of you who got in the area, if you think
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: about where the Feisser form is, if you continue on
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: McKinley going west, that angles up to Fondalalac Cabital. So
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: this is the eleventh and Fondlect So it's now just
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: on the west side of where I forty three is
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: and just to the north of where this incident would
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: have started over on Water Street. Water Streets on the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: east side of the river, and this area on Fondalac
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: was on the west side. So he had driven a
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: short distance away and then almost struck and found the
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: black abb of a vehicle coming in the other direction,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: and then struck a twenty twenty four Toyota Raft four.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: So now you got somebody else just driving there and
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: found they're hit by this guy running. After all this
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: commotion had occurred, the driver of the Toyota was taken
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: to a hospital with complaints of back and HEADPI. He
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: told police the black sid and that's the outing, did
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: not stop after the crash, and said he saw the
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: driver get out and run away, So now the driver's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: out and on foot. Officers found the disabled outing near
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: the twelve hundred block of West Walnut Street. That's again
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: a short distance away Walnuts in East West Street, just
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: to the north of where the crash occurred, and saw
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: several people getting out of and running from the vehicle.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: So the vehicle had numerous people in it, so now
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: everybody spills out of the car and takes up running.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: The driver was later found nearby and arrested. Police said
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: he had suffered apparent gunshot wound in injuries from the crash.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: She was taken to a hospital for treatment. Police found
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: a Taurus G three to nine millimeter near the crashed
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: out e and a c Z nine millimeter in the
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: path between the Audie and where the driver was found.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: One passenger told police the group had gone to Summerfest
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: earlier that night before going to Water Street. She told
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: investigators that all of the boys in the group had guns.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: She said later she saw the driver with a gun
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: in his hand and saw him begin firing at another
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: group before everyone ran back to the Audie. The passenger
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: said the driver began driving wildly in large circles. So again,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: first he started shooting at everybody, and then this wild
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: circles thing came on, and that's when the police arrived.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: This is when the passenger, a female that was in
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: the vehicle in the parking lot, while girls in the
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: vehicle told him to stop and boys encouraged him to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: keep going. No that follows, she said. The driver later said,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: I got shot and asked for directions to a hospital
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: before or the crash. The driver did not have a
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: valid CCW permitt. What a shock that is. No, there's
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: a twist to the story. For those of you who
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: have not followed the story. I'm guessing that there's a
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: presumption that this is some kid from the inner city
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: of Milwaukee. The driver who has been charged is eighteen.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: His name is Hunter Meyer. He's from Rothchild, Wisconsin. That's
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: a city in north central Wisconsin. Think like Warsaw and
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: I think a little bit north there. This isn't some
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: kid from the hood. A bunch of creeps come up
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: from come from high up north Wisconsin, come down to
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Summerfest and act worse than the ever gangbanger down on
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Water Street in Milwaukee. He's being held on two hundred
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars bond. He had his court appearance. I don't
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: know if he's out of the hospital yet or in
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: the jail. Jail. I don't believe that the bond has
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: been posted. He was said to have been found into
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: gen and had a public defender appointed. That was again
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: as of I believe Saturday was let me get the
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: court report. I believe his intake was Saturday. Yeah, he
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: had his initial appearance on Saturday, and this is Monday,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: so I believe that he's still in jail. But in
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: any event, the twist and the story is just some
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: dink from northern Wisconsin coming into Milwaukee and adding to
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: all of the trouble that we already have in these
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: parts of the city. One can hope, not count on
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: that this is the case that the district attorney and
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: our local judges threet with seriousness. It's bad enough that
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: we have our own homegrown troublemakers who come into otherwise
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: vibrant areas where people go out and have a good time,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: like Water Street and wreck everything. We don't need to
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: add to this. People not even old enough to drink
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: coming into the entertainment dits it from two hundred miles away,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: firing gunshots and damn near killing a bunch of people
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: and injuring a cop. You're listening to the Mark Belling podcast.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Belling Podcast. One of the more
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: important members of the charitable community of Milwaukee has passed away,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: Donald Bombgartner. He and his wife Donald they have a foundation,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: Donald and Donna Bombgartner Foundation. They've been one of the
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: main donors. Unlike everything ninety five years old. He had
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: a steel business, sold it a few years ago and
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: has used that well to pour it into a number
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: of the cultural organizations and social service agencies in Milwaukee.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Now wife he's ninety five, his wife survives, so we
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: can presume that the donation flow will continue. I bring
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: this up though a site, and I don't believe I've
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: ever met mister Baumgardner. It's possible I have, but I don't.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: I can't put a finger on it. He's one of
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: those people that I would have thought I might have
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: bumped into at some point, but if I have, I've
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: just forgotten. In any event, I've talked about the challenge
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: is that we have way more cultural institutions in Milwaukee
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: than a city our size should not. Every city has
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: a high end ballet. We do. We have one of
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: the better symphony orchestras in the United States, and music
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: directors have who have tended to have huge reputations when
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: they come here, including the one who's now just leaving.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: We have two opera companies, the Skylight, which tends to
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: do first of all, the Florentine does usually traditional operas,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: and the Skylight will do a mix of Broadway musicals
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  Speaker 2: show like that. We also a major theater company in
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  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee rep in addition to numerous other organizations and
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  Speaker 2: lots of social service agencies and a very very famous
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  Speaker 2: art museum. All of this is well beyond what you
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  Speaker 2: would expect in a community our size. There are other
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  Speaker 2: cities the size of Milwaukee that don't have all of
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  Speaker 2: those things, and one of the reasons we've had them
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  Speaker 2: is we've had a significant number of businesses that were
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  Speaker 2: held within a family that were sold and went public,
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  Speaker 2: creating this massive wealth. Missus Pettitt and the others of
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  Speaker 2: the Eline family, their wealth came from, in the case
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: of Missus Pettitt, came from the Ellen Bradley Foundation. There
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  Speaker 2: was the other portion of the Eline family that came
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  Speaker 2: from the Schlitz Brewery. There was Quad Graphics with the
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  Speaker 2: quad Rachis, and numerous others. But the majority of those people, obvious,
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  Speaker 2: are very, very old, and when they pass away and
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  Speaker 2: their estate is left to their children who are younger,
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  Speaker 2: you suddenly don't have as many donations to rely upon
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  Speaker 2: as you've had in the past, and there becomes this
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  Speaker 2: crunch that the arts community has when you have a
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  Speaker 2: community that is top heavy, in which a small number
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  Speaker 2: of people provide such a high percentage of the donations,
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  Speaker 2: it can be a challenge. So in this case, Donald Bumgartner,
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  Speaker 2: who pumped a ton of money into Milwaukee, made it
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  Speaker 2: all the way to ninety five years old. That's a
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  Speaker 2: ton of attention to the Brewers. I hate that this
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  Speaker 2: is prescient, but I said on Thursday's podcasts that I
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  Speaker 2: feared that the Brewers were peaking, and I was concerned
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  Speaker 2: about what was going on with their pitching, and everything
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  Speaker 2: has just gotten worse over the weekend. They were swept
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  Speaker 2: by the Pirates. Know, they lost two games by one
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  Speaker 2: run and a double head around Saturday, and that was
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  Speaker 2: just overdue. They've been winning so many one run games,
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  Speaker 2: so they lost to two of them. More importantly, the
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  Speaker 2: bigger picture, Jacob Mazerowski was scratched from his start yesterday
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  Speaker 2: and the reason was fatigue tired arm. Kyle Harrison's already
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  Speaker 2: gone to the injured list, fatigue tired arm. One of
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  Speaker 2: the games on Saturday was lost when Aaron Ashby, a
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  Speaker 2: reliever who's pitching and damn near every game, gave up
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  Speaker 2: a grand Slam home run. It sure seems to me
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  Speaker 2: that Ashby's not been sharp as the last several outings.
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  Speaker 2: It looks to me like he has tired arm. The
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  Speaker 2: Brewers have had tremendous pitching for years, but every season
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  Speaker 2: we've had there has been a fade in the pitching
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  Speaker 2: by the end of the season. It's almost like their
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  Speaker 2: arms are worn out. And part of that is the
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: Brewers are attracted to pitchers who are very hard throwing
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  Speaker 2: and pictures who are young, and it seems to me
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  Speaker 2: that younger pitchers are more prone to these types of
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  Speaker 2: injuries than the guys who built up years of arm strength,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: you know that are in their mid thirties. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: even mentioned Brandon Woodriff likely out for the season. They
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  Speaker 2: put him on the sixty day injured list. Even if
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: he comes back, it would be late September by the
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  Speaker 2: first time that he's eligible. Looks like he's done for
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  Speaker 2: the year. So hopefully the Mazerowski thing is something short term.
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  Speaker 2: But as great a job as Pat Murphy has done
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  Speaker 2: with the Brewers, I have been questioning his use of
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  Speaker 2: these pitchers. The game that I was at a couple
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: of Fridays ago, Miserowski threw one hundred five pitches In
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: his second most recent outing, he threw one hundred and three.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: They have not been doing that with him before. People say, well,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: the old days guys threw one hundred and forty and
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty. Yes, that's true. They did with
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: eighty eight mile an hour fastballs and curve balls that
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: look like big giant hooks. Not these pitches that slice.
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  Speaker 2: I would not use Maserowski more than eighty five pitches
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  Speaker 2: in a game all year, and that means he's only
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  Speaker 2: going four or five innings. That's what it would be.
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  Speaker 2: There's only so many miles you can put it these arms.
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  Speaker 2: And the most important part of the season is the
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: end of the season, not the beginning of the season.
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  Speaker 2: So there is I think significant reason to be concerned
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  Speaker 2: about the Brewers' post All Star break if they can't
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  Speaker 2: get the pitching healthy. No one question that has to
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: be raised. The Brewers have been loath to trade away
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  Speaker 2: a huge prospect mid season to try to get a
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  Speaker 2: major star in the middle of the season, particularly if
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: it's only a rental, a guy that you you want
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: to give up, a guy who could be a star
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  Speaker 2: for twelve years for a pitcher you're only going to
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: have for three months or a hitter for only three months,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: and they've just not wanted to do it because of
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: the basis of the franchise is building for the future.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: You wonder, though, this year, with a team that has
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: been so successful but clearly is facing perhaps a pitching crisis,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: if they would do it. The biggest name out there
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: is to Reik Schoolball of the Tigers. He's available, but
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: he only has a half a year left in his contract.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: He's going to be a free agent and you'd have
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: to give up a ton for him just to get
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  Speaker 2: him for a few months. I wonder if this is
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  Speaker 2: the year the Breweries will do it, And if they
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: did do it, the candidate I think most likely to
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: be traded would be Luis Pana, who's a top twenty
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: five prospect in all of baseball, was raved about for
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: his performance last night in the Futures Game. But the Breweries'
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: prospects are top heavy on infielders. You already have, hey
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: sus Maday Cooper Pratt has already up he signed for
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  Speaker 2: eight years. They're going to face a decision soon on
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: whether or not to trade or extend Bryce to Rag.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: If they choose to keep him. They're kind of loaded
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: in the infield area, and if there is a position
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: of surplus it would be there. I would not do it.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that it does not make sense for
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: a team in the situation in Milwaukee too, make one
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: of these trades the teams make in the middle of
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: the season where you trade away half your future for
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: some of the you're going to have for two or
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: three months, and you usually don't win the championship anyway.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: But I do wonder if they're going to do it.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: And finally this, I don't know how many of you
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: watch the end of the NASCAR race last night, but
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: if you did, I will say this. If you watch
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: the ending of the NASCAR race, you are a huge
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: NASCAR fan. Do you know anything about this, Jason, you
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  Speaker 2: missed it. It happened at two in the morning the race.
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  Speaker 2: You know, NASCAR's running these races quite a few races
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  Speaker 2: now at night because TV and so on. This is
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  Speaker 2: the race in Atlanta, which is a mile and a
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  Speaker 2: half track, which makes for great racing. Rain moves through
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: the area, so they had several of the lays. Two
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  Speaker 2: o'clock our time, it's three o'clock Atlanta time. That's when
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  Speaker 2: the race ended. NASCAR's getting all sorts of grief. Why
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: didn't you simply restart and finish the race today Monday?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: I can't say they made the wrong decision. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of people travel to these races, and well, it's true
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: the stands are almost entirely empty. People just went home.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: But the people are traveling to the race, they can't
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  Speaker 2: stick herund to watch for the next day. Second light,
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  Speaker 2: you've probably put in as many miles as you have.
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  Speaker 2: Finish it. When you finish it, it's more I would
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  Speaker 2: think an argument against starting these races night where you
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: only have this short window. I mean, these races are
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: three three and a half hours long in the first place,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: and when you have a reading delay, it's going to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: be that if you care. Ryan Blady one holding off
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  Speaker 2: Bubble Wallace, which is at least one thing that would
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: make most NASCAR fans happy, because Bubble Wallace is one
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: of the more unpopular drivers on the NASCAR circuit. And
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  Speaker 2: that's it for today's podcast, Talk to You So and Mite.
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