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Bon Iver · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into an
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  artist. That's right, we've done all the
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  work. All you have to do is press play
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  and listen. And look, I like to be
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  straightforward. This is attempt to and you know,
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  maybe we can get into all the reasons of why it's take to why
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  it's attempt to at a later point.
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  Usually I'm not good at this part anyway.
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  So like, I guess it's kind of good that we're here.
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  I think last time I said something about Hey, Ma or, or
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  maybe I said we're going to do it for Emma.
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  That's still the case. I guess maybe I should explain
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  what the podcast is. I haven't done that yet.
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  My name is Justin. This is deprogrammed.
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  This is a podcast where I am band curious and I like to get
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  people together to talk about why it is they like these
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  musicians and artists. And today, like I said, it is it
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  is for Emma. It is.
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  We're going to say, hey Ma, we are going to be talking about
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  Bona Ver today. And Luke, last time you said
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  some really sweet words. You said really nice things.
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  Now you have to remember them all and say them again into a
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  microphone. Talk to me about Boney Bear.
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  It's funny, I'm not sure that what I said last time is like
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  entirely accurate once I went back and reconsidered.
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  But what, what I said and the reason that I was so keen to do
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  this is because Boney Bear has maybe accidentally become like
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  one of my absolute most important artists for my life.
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  When the first album came out, I, it was, it was so in my
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  wheelhouse, like sad white guy, you know, alone in the woods,
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  kind of strumming acoustic guitar shit that I almost
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  resented it, but I loved it. But I was, I was kind of like,
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  this is this is like this, this fits me too well.
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  And then it got mixed up with like a relationship I was in at
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  the time. So I I kept, I kept the bona ver
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  kind of at arm's length. And then the second album came
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  out and I was like, OK, this is one of the greatest albums I've
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  ever heard, but whatever. And you know, I'm still, I'm
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  still sort of keeping my distance in a way emotionally.
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  And then at some point during I guess the third album, I was
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  sort of like, no, this is exactly what I want from music.
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  Like literally, I, I, I just like it's we'll, we'll get into
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  all the, all the sort of like aesthetic reasons why I fucking
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  love it so much. But it has become Justin Vernon,
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  and his whole project has really become in an incredibly
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  important part of my life. And last time before the robots
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  came to take us away, Brandon, I made mention that this is again,
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  you know, me making judgments based on the times you've been
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  on the show. This is outside of what you're
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  normally here to talk about. But then the robots took you
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  away. So talk to me about Bonaver and
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  and why why this is 1 you wanted to jump on.
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  Yes, yes, it was all my fault. Technical issues, The Internet
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  series of tubes. Al Gore, you know, the whole
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  thing. It was my fault anyway.
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  Yeah, and I contain multitudes. I don't just listen to Pearl Jam
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  and Smashing Pumpkins and Metal I I listen to weird stuff too.
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  This isn't really weird, though. It's probably maybe some.
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  No, it's not the most poppy stuff that I listen to.
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  I mean, we got K pop demon Hodgers out there, so that slaps
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  that six sevens. I don't know what the kids say
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  these days, but yeah, I, I first heard of Boney Bear because I'm
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  an NPR nerd. And so at South by Southwest in
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  2008, I've been right around when his album was coming out or
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  right before or something like that, before he got his record
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  contract with Jack. Jack, you are.
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  I heard about them. I heard about them on on NPR,
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  All Songs Considered or something like that.
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  And they played this whole South by Southwest concert and I was
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  just like, oh man, this is guitary and sort of pressing and
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  just very, very desolate sounding.
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  And that's kind of how my headspace was, I think at that
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  time. This was a little bit before I
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  met my wife. So that's probably why it
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  connected with me. And just as his other albums
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  came out and sort of his style sort of established as just a
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  musician and not necessarily like a folk guy or something,
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  he, it was just, oh wow, kind of like brought me along for the
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  ride and expanded my, my horizons a little bit.
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  I I think that he's very sort of Prince like in that way of, of
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  just, you know, playing a bunch of different instruments and
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  also just sort of like playing music and not necessarily
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  playing a style. Yeah, man, you guys have all
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  these like awesome stories with, with connecting with this artist
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  and I have all right, so I remember seeing Bone Ivor a
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  million times, seeing the name and never no Bone Ivor.
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  I remember seeing it God knows how many times and not, not
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  clicking, not thinking about what that is.
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  I was like, what the fuck is this Bon Bone Ivor?
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  What is this? And I just, I wrote it off for
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  God knows how long. And then God, this is so stupid.
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  One time on Smartlist, Bateman was making fun of our net and he
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  said something. Oh, you're going to go listen to
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  your Bone. Ivor and Arnett just tore him to
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  shreds. And he mean he goes, he goes,
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  you mean bone of air. And he's just going on and on.
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  And I was like, oh shit, I'm stupid.
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  Arnett tell you how to pronounce it.
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  Yeah, yeah. So Arnett, Arnett put me on the
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  right path. And then I mean, God, who any A
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  lot of people were probably introduced to this gentleman
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  through Taylor Swift. And Exile is one of the most
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  beautiful songs I've ever heard, period, end of story.
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  And his half in that, of course, is huge, a huge reason for that.
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  And I was like, this is that this is that guy.
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  And so like, I've just been intrigued by this artist ever
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  since I learned how to say the name correctly.
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  And then the math clicked that it was this guy on this Taylor
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  Swift song that I love. So it's it's been a good couple
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  years of me going, man, I'd like to cover him on the show.
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  We got to get to it. And then here you are, Luke, You
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  put him up on the board. So we finally start putting it
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  together. It's not like a ton of songs,
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  but as you guys have both kind of said, like this guy doesn't
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  doesn't live in one wheelhouse. So when you're looking to put
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  together your list for this one, what is it that you're looking
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  to pull out and bring to the table?
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  I I went back and forth. So I'm enough of a dork.
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  I've got a several artists that I like enough that I've ranked
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  every song that they've ever made.
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  And so and so I was like, this will be, this will be easy.
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  I'll just take my top 20 from my ranked Bony Vera list.
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  And then I started going through it and I was like, no, this
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  won't do, this won't do. So I really, I went back and
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  forth a lot and I eventually just had to because, you know,
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  you made reference to Taylor Swift.
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  I think the Bony Vera eras are so important and distinct and
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  sort of like a build on one another that I just went, all
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  right, I'm going to take 4 songs from each era, essentially kind
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  of four songs from each of the five albums.
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  And I gave myself that like limitation.
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  And so that's what I was able to.
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  I don't know if that's like a spoiler for our lists, but I had
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  to, I had to put some kind of structure to it.
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  Otherwise I would have never trimmed the list down to 20.
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  So Brandon, as you're, you're looking to do this as well, like
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  is this something that's difficult to put together
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  because you, you, you said it's not exactly just talk to, I
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  guess just talk to me about what your, what your mindset was
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  going for, for this, for this list specifically.
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  For this specific one, I sort of my, my, my plan.
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  No, my, my theory, no, my, my, my, what the hell is the word
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  I'm looking for? My, my plan, strategy, whatever
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  strategy. Oh God damn it.
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  Yes, my strategy, my strategy for this.
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  My, my, my energy drink isn't kicking.
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  It isn't kicking out a week's worth a long shift.
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  So anyway, my, my strategy for this episode was going for the
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  stuff that I think is the most not necessarily plain, but sort
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  of stuff that I think is a a good representation of what the
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  song is trying to accomplish. Like what this sound is that's
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  also going to appeal, I think to an average person that that's
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  coming into the bona ver cold and doesn't really know anything
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  or maybe just knows, you know, Taylor Swift or something like
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  that. And so that's that's sort of how
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  I went about it because I know there's some stuff on some of
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  the albums that's just really out there, just jazzy and just
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  electronic and kind of weird sounded.
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  I'm like, oh hell yes, wait a minute, wait a minute.
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  Maybe I'll put my foot off the gas a little bit on this one and
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  and go for something a little bit more holes, Yes.
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  Well, it's funny, Brandon, because I I thought the same
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  thing and then as I was like going through my list recently,
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  I thought I picked like really accessible, like the accessible
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  Bona Vera songs and I listened to some of the songs.
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  I was like, this is weird as shit.
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  Like I yeah, like he's not inaccessible, but but yeah,
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  like, it does get a little weird.
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  It especially gets a little weird for an artist who has a
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  reputation is like it. It can be a little cringy to say
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  that Bonaver means so much to me.
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  I mean, for God's sakes, Brandon first learned about him through
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  MPRI. Think I bought the self-titled
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  second album at Starbucks. And then Justin learned about
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  him through Taylor Swift. So like, this is not like like a
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  really cool artist, but I think he makes really cool music.
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  Yeah, Yeah, that's a great point.
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  I so, you know, as as mentioned, you know, I I had exile on the
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  mind coming into this. And then like as we were
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  starting, Brandon said something to the effect of he's kind of a
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  winter artist, or at least he starts that way.
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  So like I had that on the brain going in.
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  And I think I may have said this on the national episode as well.
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  If I didn't, I'm repeating myself.
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  But especially on those songs, I had that that line from 33 as I
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  pull my collar up and face the cold on my own.
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  Like that comes to mind a lot in those first couple records.
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  And I was listening to the playlist on a walk and, you
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  know, like it all, all that is kind of going through my mind.
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  It's like, yeah, OK, I get it. I, I get what this guy's doing.
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  And then 22 a million comes up and I was like, wait, this guy
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  does weird shit to you? What, Like, like suddenly it's a
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  complete tonal shift where it's clearly still him, but it's it's
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  taking chances. I didn't see in a million years
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  between what he had put out that I'd listened to so far and
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  again, being the guy I heard on the Taylor Swift song.
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  So it's like, OK, this is going to be different.
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  And then the next record I'm like, OK, like this kind of
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  lives sort of near there. OK.
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  And then the last record I start listening to and it's like this
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  beautiful combination of the both like, and I was like, fuck,
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  like the choices I had to make from that were just absolutely
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  heartbreaking. Because there's going to be
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  songs that are going to be said today, then I'll be like, yeah,
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  I get that, but I don't have it like, there it was, yeah.
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  It's going to be that annoying thing where like, someone will
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  say a song and I'll go. It's one of my favorite songs of
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  all time. I didn't put it on my list, you
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  know. Yeah, it's just it, it is.
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  This is was a much more difficult list than I expected.
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  When, when my thought is Taylor, the exile guy, Taylor Swift guy,
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  like I thought it was going to be just picking from a bunch of
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  winter songs and going, OK, here's 20 winter songs.
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  Very good. And by the way, like he's really
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  fucking good at that. Like his winter songs, like the
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  pull my collar up, face the cold, that that shit is fucking
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  great. But like, the fact that he's
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  willing to take these these chances on, like he would
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  probably be huge if he just stayed in that one pocket.
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  And I mean, you know, obviously he's not small fucking fucking
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  idiots on Smartlist. They're talking about him.
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  We're talking about him now. He's on a Taylor Swift record.
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  Like he's not, he's not no one. But it, I don't know, man.
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  Like this was very confusing but fucking wonderful.
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  He also like another like interesting or important part of
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  his story is like his friends if if that's a dumb way to put it.
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  But like he's worked with so many people at this point and he
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  has so many side projects that are legitimately really good.
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  I mean fucking Geno. Choir.
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  Yeah, Volcano Choir is great, Big Big Red Machine is great.
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  And Kanye West on like one of the landmark hip hop albums of
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  all time was like, hey, I'm going to not only bring you in
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  to the recording, but I'm going to like sample and reinterpolate
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  one of your songs. You know, like, so I, I, I, I
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  get the sense from his musical evolution that I don't know if
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  he's pushing against the narrative that he was this, this
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  loner in the woods who made for Emma, but it just seemed like he
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  wanted to keep working with people and bringing more people
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  into his orbit. And I, I just think that's
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  great. I like almost from a
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  philosophical perspective. From a creative perspective, I'm
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  just like, yes, that's the kind of artist I want to support and
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  the kind of artist I'm going to vibe with.
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  I wanted to say like, you know, here before I forget it.
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  Strangely, he reminded me a lot of who someone else we did on
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  the show recently, Paul Simon. Like, you know, I couldn't tell
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  you if necessarily this the songwriting, you know, but like
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  the worldliness, the curiosity about different, different music
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  is what what the comparison was for me.
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  Like, it feels like he didn't want to be just like he can do
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  this one thing, like, but like, let's let's use that as a
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  baseline for for all this other stuff.
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  And it felt like he got pretty worldly in some of those middle
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  records. And it's just, yeah, it was just
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  weird that I kept coming back to Paul Simon.
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  And I don't think that is something I would have guessed a
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  couple months ago. I love that you said that
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  because Paul Simon is literally my favorite artist of all time.
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  And I had the thought recently, probably like thinking about
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  recording this podcast, I was like, would it be stupid to
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  compare the second Bonaver record to Graceland?
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  Just the way that like, it exploded his sound, but it was
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  still obviously him. No, I get that totally.
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  Like, it may may not have the same, like, weight as far as
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  culturally, but I think compared comparatively, yeah, I get that.
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  I get that a lot. I mean, we could wax poetic
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  about this all day, but I feel like we got to start getting
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  some numbers here so we can start, you know, creating the
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  pain, as it were. Everything we've said so far
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  seems to point to a bloodbath. Right, Luke?
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  Like how many do you think we get through here unanimously?
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  I. I think they're like, I'm going
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  to say 3. I really think we're only going
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  to get 3. OK.
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  It's low, but like I get that as well.
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  Wouldn't Brandon, we're are we, are we making Much Ado about
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  nothing? Is there more out there than we
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  think? I think that the way that Luke
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  described his process for it, that that's informing my guests
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  right now because I also ended up with four from each album.
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  And it wasn't really my intention to do that, but it was
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  just sort of happened. And except for the last one,
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  which was really hard to to make the cuts on that one.
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  But I think that there's enough of his songs that like our gut
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  punches. Instead of just like sneaking up
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  behind you that I think that that we're going to agree a
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  little bit more than than you might think, Justin.
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  So I'm going to say 6. I like that.
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  Take the swing. I like it.
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  I hope Brandon's right. That's more fun.
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  Yeah, yeah. I, you know, I hope so that.
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  So that leaves the question, the number I always like to take
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  right in the middle is available.
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  There's a good space between you 2 or I can do the thing I did on
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  Hootie and go above what both of you all you all have picked and
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  then still outperform it. Legendary. 10 You know,
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  sometimes I like to look at my list and see if there's one that
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  I would like fight for if it doesn't get in.
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  And that kind of informs like how hard I want to play on the
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  on the on the final say, I think there is yeah, I'm going to go 5
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  because I think there is a song. I would I would for sure fight
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  for. All right, let's hope we let's
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  let's hope and cross our fingers that we that well, I don't know,
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  man, more people should know this guy is the end of the
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  story, right? Like that's the reality of it.
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  So the more songs we name, the more chance that we that
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  somebody gets into him. So we're going to take a quick
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  pause. And on the other side of this,
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  we are going to play the game, this program, Jack.
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  And with that, the name of the game is deprogrammed.
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  The three of us have come through the Bone of Air
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  discography and plucked out 20 songs that we're now going to
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  mash together in an attempt to create a top 10 starter kit for
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  you. In case you have never given
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  Bonaver the time of day. And I'm going to go well outside
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  of my normal playing pattern and, and normal strategy.
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  I sometimes like with, with artists like this especially, I
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  like to go to the point where I really knew I was, I was in more
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  trouble than I thought I was with this guy specifically.
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  I was like, OK, I see what's going on here, you know?
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  And then I get to this song and I was like, well, shit, this is
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  going to be a lot harder than I thought.
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  How about things behind things behind things?
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  I've got it. I don't have it.
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  OK, I'll take that too. Yeah, I it goes into that.
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  I think it's technically the second track on that record.
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  No, maybe I don't know. But that starts playing and I'm
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  like, oh shit. Again.
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  Usually you get to that last record and you assume, OK,
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  there's going to be a little bit of a fall off and you know,
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  maybe, you know, maybe this will be the one that has the easy
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  cuts. No, Sable Fable did not have the
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  easy cuts so. And that's aside from just like
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  some drone sound. That's the opener for that
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  album. So I'm, I'm, I'm like you,
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  Justin. I I love an opener.
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  I love well, again, like, you know, tell me, tell me what's
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  going on. And in this case, tell me what
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  what's changed? And immediately you're telling
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  me what's changed. You've set set the tone and I
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  and I immediately knew that this album was going to be trouble
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  from this song. So all right, things behind
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  things takes a 2. It gets to remain alive.
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  And we're going to move over to you, Luke.
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  All right, I don't even know where to begin.
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  I, I think I'm just going to nominate like favorites so that
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  like let the heartbreak happen immediately.
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  The, the song that you know, the way that you said you knew you
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  were in trouble. The the song that made me
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  realize like this guy's an all timer for me is off 20 to
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  1,000,000 and it's 33 God. I got it.
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  OK, I don't, but we'll take that too.
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  Take it too. Take it too.
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  It's one of the things that I think is so cool about his music
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  is it strikes me as almost like arena folk.
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  Like the sounds are so big and epic on this and he's using like
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  vocal samples and things like that.
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  That 33 God like almost, you know, made an atheist like me be
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  like, oh, I'm I I see what I yeah, take those quotes away
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  from God in the title. I get you that.
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  That's such a great way, arena folk.
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  Yeah, I immediately locked in to what you were saying like that
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  is a great description. And that, yeah, that's, they're
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  my favorite songs of his. All right, we'll take that too.
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  And Brandon? I'm going to go for an opener
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  and see Blood Bank, yes. I got it.
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  Oh, I've got it too. Yes, there we go.
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  There we go. To be fair, I did not get a ton
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  of answers from the Internet about this, but this is one that
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  I got, I think twice. Yeah, twice.
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  So, I mean, look, that did not inform my decision.
• 26:06
  I had already had it on my my list, but it kind of lives.
• 26:11
  Oh, funnily enough, I hadn't seen this image.
• 26:14
  There's an image of a car covered with snow for this.
• 26:20
  Who knew? Probably you guys, not me.
• 26:26
  Sometimes I should look at the things.
• 26:27
  But yeah, blood bank. Boom.
• 26:29
  Let me find it on this list and then we will move on.
• 26:35
  But it does kind of it does have that that cold thing that he
• 26:39
  does so well. All right, blood bank in.
• 26:46
  All right, let me put another one out that came through on the
• 26:56
  wire just to see. How about re stacks?
• 27:03
  I got it. Wow, look at us.
• 27:06
  Hey, hey, all right, boom and boom and let me find that here
• 27:21
  Yeah, this one was 641 is not something I usually want to
• 27:26
  bring to the table, but like it's fitting especially for this
• 27:33
  guy, right? Like it it doesn't feel like
• 27:37
  641, like it doesn't feel fast, but it doesn't feel like 6
• 27:41
  minutes and 41 seconds. I'm with you.
• 27:44
  I'm every time I listen to song I'm surprised by the runtime
• 27:47
  all. Right.
• 27:49
  Boom boom boom. And Luke?
• 27:54
  OK, so picking picking a song off the second album, I I could
• 28:03
  have had pretty much every track on there, but there is one that
• 28:07
  kind of feels like a standout and that's Holocene.
• 28:11
  I got it. I got it, yeah.
• 28:15
  See, we've already hit my 3. Yeah, see.
• 28:18
  I thought you said 4. Oh yeah, I said.
• 28:21
  I definitely said four. No, I said 3.
• 28:23
  Oh. See, you could have taken that.
• 28:26
  I mean I wrote down 3 but no, we could have changed it.
• 28:32
  But one of the things I, one of the reasons I said 3 is because
• 28:34
  I, I do feel like they're, you know, like just using this album
• 28:38
  as an example, I could see you all being like, no, that one's
• 28:41
  good. But and having some other song
• 28:45
  that I would agree, like yes, that one's also incredible.
• 28:47
  So. But Holocene does feel almost
• 28:51
  like maybe the most Bony bear, Bony bear song.
• 28:54
  Yeah. I love that.
• 28:56
  Yeah. All right.
• 28:59
  Boom, Brandon. I'm going to go for something on
• 29:07
  I, I. How about Rabbi?
• 29:13
  No. Not for me either.
• 29:16
  OK. I feel like I couldn't.
• 29:18
  I couldn't be hitting all dingers.
• 29:21
  I feel like that one's going to be hard, like those two in the
• 29:26
  middle of there are going to be hard for us to find, I think.
• 29:29
  Yeah. Because different years,
• 29:32
  different days, you know? Absolutely all.
• 29:36
  Right, I'll I'll stay there with you and see if we can't find
• 29:41
  one. Well, I already I already used
• 29:44
  this once. So how about hey Ma?
• 29:50
  I do have Hey ma all. Right.
• 29:56
  We'll take a two there. Take a 2.
• 30:01
  Boom and boom. Is is is the Bonnie Bear version
• 30:04
  better than the Camron version? It's a good question.
• 30:10
  I like how laid back it is. I'll say that that's what that's
• 30:15
  what brought me to the dance. All right, Luke.
• 30:24
  OK, let's go with. I'm going to stick with I, I
• 30:31
  since we're sort of in that run right now and I'm going to
• 30:34
  nominate Faith. Yeah, I got that.
• 30:38
  I don't have that one. We'll take another two, take
• 30:43
  another two there. Boom and boom 3 is not looking
• 30:48
  bad. There's still like plenty of
• 30:50
  gameplay. But yeah, all right, Brandon.
• 30:57
  OK, let's let's go back to to 22 million then.
• 31:01
  How about £29 signed Stratford Apartments?
• 31:07
  Yeah, I got it. I do not have it.
• 31:13
  See, that's and I know, yeah, everyone always like does this.
• 31:16
  That was my last cut. There's going to be a lot of
• 31:24
  that, a lot of those oh so close to my lists especially.
• 31:27
  I think like I said, with 22 a million in I, I, I feel like
• 31:32
  there's going to be a lot. Of them, I might regret that.
• 31:34
  I almost thought about lying right when you said 29.
• 31:37
  I almost, I almost went yeah. And then just cut out another
• 31:40
  one, you know, because I love that song.
• 31:43
  Yeah, but then you got to do the work of finding which one you're
• 31:45
  cutting. Exactly.
• 31:47
  Yeah, nobody wants that. All right.
• 31:53
  How would I try one from the second record?
• 31:55
  How about I presume this is Minnesota, Wisconsin.
• 32:02
  I have it I. Don't have that one.
• 32:05
  All right, this second layer conversation is already looking
• 32:10
  like it's going to be brutal. Yeah, no kidding.
• 32:14
  All right, Luke. Let's go with Sable Fable.
• 32:23
  I have day one. No, I got it a.
• 32:31
  Lot of twos. Yes, yes, and you know what I
• 32:38
  didn't do today that I I I did last time Luke, at last time
• 32:42
  when, when you jumped on the call, I was re listening to my
• 32:45
  list. I did not do that tonight.
• 32:48
  I mean of course it was because I was listening to devil's
• 32:50
  hockey, but also like it. It makes this conversation a lot
• 32:54
  easier. Yeah, you don't need you don't
• 32:58
  need some song that had already been off the list jumping up
• 33:00
  and. Right.
• 33:01
  And then trying to find where it goes.
• 33:05
  All right, let's see. Was that was Luke right day one?
• 33:09
  Yep. All right, Brandon.
• 33:15
  How about Beth Rest? Yes.
• 33:21
  I do not have it, I know. So I'm so sorry so much of that.
• 33:28
  I think we we have cleared NTPI don't think anything's coming
• 33:33
  out of the bin. Yeah, we definitely have.
• 33:35
  And things are actually going to have to get cut at this point.
• 33:38
  So all right, back around to me. I'll try another Sable fable.
• 33:50
  How about everything is peaceful love?
• 33:55
  I've got it. I don't have this.
• 34:03
  I almost exactly how I thought this was going to go though.
• 34:07
  Almost precisely. I also for everything is
• 34:12
  peaceful love. I like that song, but I wish
• 34:15
  that short story, the song that precedes it and like kind of
• 34:18
  flows into it. I wish it was just one track,
• 34:21
  the whole thing. And it might be my favorite,
• 34:24
  like, song that he's ever made if he just hadn't, like, cut
• 34:28
  them. I know that sounds stupid.
• 34:30
  But no, it doesn't. Honestly, I think that's what
• 34:33
  happened here is I think that track got me to pay attention
• 34:37
  and then when everything is when it flowed into peaceful of I'm
• 34:39
  not sure that I even noticed until I went back and noticed.
• 34:44
  Oh, the they're separate, but you know.
• 34:47
  Yeah, like I still like that. Yeah, they're always going to be
• 34:49
  grouped in my mind. All right, so it gets a 2 and
• 34:53
  these cuts look more and more brutal by the second.
• 34:56
  All right, Luke. Let's go with we'll go back to
• 35:02
  for Emma and shit for Emma, yes. I don't have to have what maybe
• 35:15
  my strategy going into this was. What?
• 35:19
  I don't know, man. There's a there is a lot here.
• 35:22
  We were all just, I think, no, I'm being, if I'm being honest,
• 35:26
  this is, this is exactly what listening to this was like.
• 35:31
  Like it is, it is the day you listen to it.
• 35:36
  Like if I would have listened to it again today, I would have had
• 35:38
  a different list probably, you know, save for a handful.
• 35:42
  Exactly how I feel. All right, Brandon, OK, how
• 35:48
  about here, here's here's one of the ones I have on from How
• 35:56
  about the wolves one and two? So good, but no.
• 36:02
  Yeah, so good. But no.
• 36:04
  Oh. OK, well, I'll, I'll, I'll take
• 36:07
  a, I'll take a a complete failure rather than another,
• 36:11
  another two at this point. I mean they're.
• 36:14
  Such good. Like each time I feel like
• 36:18
  personally apologizing to you. Like Brandon, I'm sorry I let
• 36:20
  you down. Sorry, I did you wrong.
• 36:27
  All right, we're starting to get down to it here.
• 36:32
  See, that was one answer I got. All right, let me try another
• 36:35
  Sable Fable answer that I got on from the Internet.
• 36:39
  How about there's a rhythm? I do not have it.
• 36:44
  No, I don't have that one. Oh, into the bin he goes, I
• 36:48
  mean. That's tough.
• 36:51
  I mean, deep into the game, but into the bin.
• 36:53
  All right, Luke. OK, back to let's do 20 to
• 37:04
  1,000,000. I have 22 over soon.
• 37:11
  No, no, I know not to keep repeating myself, but that
• 37:18
  record was is just like a you could pick anything and that.
• 37:24
  Yeah. All right, Brandon.
• 37:31
  OK, how about under score 45? Under score?
• 37:47
  I'm sorry, we're looking at all these ones that were like, yeah,
• 37:53
  I can, I can, I can cut this one.
• 37:55
  Like, sure, like nobody's gonna bring these, right?
• 38:02
  I had a hard time with the back half of both 22 a million and I
• 38:06
  I because this like like the entire back half kind of feels
• 38:10
  like an extended kind of like jazzy piece.
• 38:14
  And so picking one track out was tough.
• 38:16
  I spoiler. I kind of did a little bit on
• 38:19
  one of them, but like all of those, the the whole second-half
• 38:24
  of 22 a million is just beautiful.
• 38:28
  I wonder if that's what happened and I just again didn't clock it
• 38:33
  as it was I. Couldn't remember what was what,
• 38:34
  it was calling it all. Right, I'll, I'll trot out a 22
• 38:40
  million song here just just to see.
• 38:43
  How about 00000 million? No.
• 38:49
  That was a late cut for me. I should have saved it for the
• 38:52
  dump out. All right, Speaking of that,
• 38:56
  hold on, let me give a count here. 123-4567 left.
• 39:03
  So yeah, I think we got like a round or two depending,
• 39:06
  depending on how we do here, Luke.
• 39:12
  Well, I kind of have a sense now of where we're at on 22 million.
• 39:17
  So I'm going back to Boney Ver, Boney Ver and I'm going to say
• 39:22
  Perth. Oh fuck me no.
• 39:26
  Another late that for me. All right, Brandon.
• 39:32
  OK. This I think should be an easy
• 39:35
  one just to keep keep get our get our spirits back.
• 39:39
  How about space side? Yeah, I got it.
• 39:44
  Should be an easy one. Guess what?
• 39:51
  We'll take the two there, though at this point we, you know, even
• 39:54
  though it's already going to be difficult, we'll take the 2.
• 39:58
  I can't, Brandon, I'm sorry. That's.
• 40:03
  Right, all right, I think we'll call this one our last last
• 40:06
  round. So, so trot out your your best
• 40:08
  shots here. That's a 2.
• 40:14
  You know what my best shot is? I guess the last one that I got
• 40:18
  is an answer, even though that hasn't traditionally done me
• 40:22
  very well tonight. How about skinny love?
• 40:27
  Yes. Nope, I know skinny love.
• 40:35
  Skinny love was on there and then when I I I basically like
• 40:38
  subbed blood bank for skinny love.
• 40:42
  Is it the the covers kind of over saturating it for you or?
• 40:48
  You know what? Maybe it is because the song has
• 40:52
  sort of fallen for me over time, and it might just be that I
• 40:55
  listened to it too much and now I don't have the same kind of
• 40:58
  relationship to it. But it felt like it felt like
• 41:04
  that and Blood Bank take up a similar space in in his story
• 41:08
  and like in the fandom. So I wanted to just choose one
• 41:11
  of the two. Understandable.
• 41:14
  All right, Luke. OK, this is hard y'all let's go
• 41:25
  with you know it's kind of like a an opener track, but I I opens
• 41:34
  with I me lowercase I capital M lowercase I.
• 41:43
  Very good, but no. No.
• 41:47
  All right. All right, Brandon.
• 41:53
  OK, how, how about let's, let's, let's bury the hatchet.
• 41:58
  I guess with with I, I I'm going to say, should I or shittiest
• 42:04
  day in American history? Nope, no, no, wait.
• 42:15
  All right, so we have a chance still there's there's a I've got
• 42:19
  a, a good four or five left that maybe we we hit a walk off here
• 42:25
  to get a couple more. But all right, I'm going to
• 42:28
  start at the top flume. Yes.
• 42:32
  Yes, I have Flume. I kept dancing around that one.
• 42:37
  Why did we keep dancing around that one?
• 42:41
  Amazing. It's it's it's.
• 42:42
  The obvious pick, I mean, come on.
• 42:44
  I mean, yeah, but I mean, we were floundering around here
• 42:47
  forever like we could have just we we're.
• 42:51
  We're just, we're just edging the audience.
• 42:53
  You know, there's there's nothing wrong with that.
• 42:56
  We're like, yeah, all. Right, boom boom.
• 43:02
  That brings us up to four at least.
• 43:04
  So I'm back on the hook because it's possible that we hit my 5.
• 43:08
  All right. Next is Wash, which maybe it's
• 43:11
  sort for Washington. I got it.
• 43:15
  I do not have it. All right, we'll take another
• 43:18
  two there. Was a brutal cut.
• 43:21
  No kidding. All right, next you manlike.
• 43:30
  No, no. No, Marion.
• 43:36
  No, no. All right, and last chance to
• 43:42
  put me on the heat, Walk home. No, no.
• 43:48
  All right, so we're going to land at 4:00, which means we are
• 43:51
  going to have to work out all the rest of it.
• 43:56
  But you can make it a little harder here, Luke.
• 44:02
  How so? Dumping out whatever you got
• 44:04
  left. Oh, jumping out.
• 44:06
  Sorry, Towers. No.
• 44:14
  Wow, it seems like I have a lot left.
• 44:15
  This is weird. 666 Weird upside down crucifix.
• 44:22
  No upside down T, lowercase T. Yeah, what is that thing?
• 44:32
  8 circle. No.
• 44:39
  And then Nayeem off I, I. Yes.
• 44:45
  Take that too. That one was a close one for me.
• 44:49
  It was really. And then I'm still dumping,
• 44:53
  right? Because I still have.
• 44:54
  One more got left. Yep.
• 44:55
  OK then, if only I could wait from sable fable.
• 45:00
  That was a leak up for me. All right.
• 45:04
  And then for shits and gigs, Brandon, whatever you got left.
• 45:08
  I had Calgary short story and I'll be there.
• 45:18
  Let's see, I'll be there was an answer I got really late today
• 45:21
  on on Facebook and it almost made me go back and listen.
• 45:28
  But like I said, I don't want to do the work.
• 45:33
  I'll be there's so it's so great.
• 45:38
  I'm kind of shocked that awards season didn't get brought up.
• 45:43
  I mean, obviously none of us had it, so like, I don't feel bad
• 45:46
  for not grabbing it, but it was one I was listening to last week
• 45:51
  right before the call that I was like, well shit, do I need to
• 45:54
  make room for this? So apparently I was wrong.
• 45:59
  All right, so we got 4 here. Let me sort this sheet here.
• 46:04
  We can go down it. We're we're off to a good start.
• 46:06
  Even though we covered like the entire gamut here.
• 46:10
  We got blood bank re stacks Holocene and Flume are in and
• 46:16
  then how many twos are there here 14 that we need to trim
• 46:23
  down to 6. I want to start reading these
• 46:27
  down things behind things behind things 33 God Hey ma faith 29 LB
• 46:35
  sign Strafford apartments Minnesota Wisconsin day one Beth
• 46:41
  rest everything is peaceful love for Emma space side skinny love
• 46:47
  Wash may be short for Washington.
• 46:49
  Who knows? And Naeem, but as I read those
• 46:53
  down as the one that's kind of jumping out at you, Luke, that
• 46:56
  is like, man, we really should have had that one.
• 47:01
  I mean, a few, definitely a few of them are like, I feel guilt
• 47:06
  for not having 29 Stratford apartments because I love that
• 47:09
  song so much. And then I actually, I think we
• 47:12
  should just push in Beth Rest because I think that's an
• 47:16
  important song. And there's actually a version
• 47:20
  of it, like a very acoustic quiet version that was, I don't
• 47:26
  know, it's like it recorded at the Rare Book room.
• 47:28
  I don't even know what that is, but that's how I look it up is
• 47:31
  the rare Book Room version that is also beautiful and doesn't
• 47:35
  have any of that big 80s since stuff going on.
• 47:38
  So Beth Rest is the one that jumps out is like that should
• 47:41
  probably be in there. All right.
• 47:45
  He's proposing also taking Stratford Apartments.
• 47:48
  Brandon, I mean, you're on both of those, obviously.
• 47:52
  Are you good with grabbing both of those?
• 47:55
  Oh yeah. All right, let's do that.
• 47:57
  I always like to just make sure. All right, So is there one that
• 48:01
  we're taking both of those Beth Reston 29 Strafford apartments?
• 48:07
  Is there one that was jumping out at you, Brandon, that you
• 48:09
  feel like me and we should have had that one?
• 48:27
  Probably I'm trying to going back and forth like seeing if
• 48:37
  there were like some some hard cuts that I made that you guys
• 48:42
  were were all in on. I think maybe for Emma this is
• 48:49
  another starting debut album. 1 couldn't hurt.
• 48:59
  OK, let's grab that boom. And that brings us what to seven
• 49:05
  now? All right, so the next hard
• 49:09
  question before we do anything else, what do we think about
• 49:14
  album representation? Is this something that we we
• 49:17
  feel is important to have here? I kind of think it is unless it
• 49:25
  it'd be it'd be a fun little like whiplash for people to be
• 49:29
  like, OK, all right, I get it. Flume for Emma stacks blood bank
• 49:33
  and then all of a sudden we're just like, here's Naeem.
• 49:40
  But yeah, like, because he does seem like this project does seem
• 49:45
  to be so based around different eras and things.
• 49:48
  I think it'd be nice to get the later albums at least one one
• 49:52
  track represented all. Right.
• 49:54
  So let's tackle our I, I selection first.
• 50:00
  So we've got hey, Ma, Faith and Naeem to choose from.
• 50:06
  Is it one that's kind of you're kind of leaning towards Luke?
• 50:11
  Oh well, selfishly faith because it's it might be my favorite
• 50:15
  song is and it it really does that arena folk thing so well.
• 50:22
  But hey, Ma also feels like the kind of representative track
• 50:28
  from that album, so. So I both of those, do you have
• 50:34
  an inclination either way Brandon or did you want to go to
• 50:38
  bet for Naim here? Yeah, I didn't.
• 50:44
  I I I didn't really listen to to the picks either, but but I had
• 50:51
  both of those, both of those were close to making it for me.
• 50:57
  As As for for I did, I did some other research, though, looking
• 51:04
  at like what people online like the the the top plays from Baudi
• 51:12
  Ver to see how we compared once we get to the end of our list.
• 51:16
  So you'll have to stay tuned for the after show.
• 51:22
  What? But I think, I think, Hey, Mama
• 51:28
  is one that people like. OK.
• 51:33
  So that might that. Might be up some and you know,
• 51:35
  this isn't saying this isn't saying faith is going in the bin
• 51:39
  because we still have two more picks after this.
• 51:42
  It's just saying let's take ham off first.
• 51:45
  So let's do that all right now, and I go ahead.
• 51:49
  Hamah almost didn't make my list, but for the same reason
• 51:52
  that Brandon said it, it feels like kind of the most popular
• 51:56
  track from that album, and it's such a good time listening to
• 51:59
  that song that I think it should be included here.
• 52:02
  We go, all right, so let's look at these Sable Fable tracks.
• 52:09
  Yeah, we. So we've got things behind
• 52:10
  things behind things day one. Everything is peaceful love and
• 52:17
  space side to choose from. And I feel like this is like,
• 52:24
  yeah, true splits. I think I had everything.
• 52:27
  I had everything but day one. It looks like Luke had things
• 52:32
  behind things day one and peaceful love and Brandon didn't
• 52:38
  have things behind things or peaceful love.
• 52:41
  I had everything else. So is there a way you guys are
• 52:46
  leaning on these tracks for? Me.
• 52:54
  Go for it, Brandon. Oh, I was going to.
• 52:55
  Say he's like, I think we could probably leave, even though it's
• 53:00
  an awesome song. As as as are, you know, all the
• 53:02
  ones we pick because what else would we would we pick them?
• 53:06
  Probably space side because I think that that sound is sort of
• 53:09
  represented with the earlier sort of albums and stuff.
• 53:16
  And while it's kind of, like, cool to hear him dip back into
• 53:19
  it on a later album, in the context of this sort of
• 53:22
  playlist, it's, you know, kind of like, OK, yeah, we, we know
• 53:26
  that he does this as a song. Yeah, I get that.
• 53:30
  So. Yeah, I was going to say the
• 53:31
  exact same thing all. Right.
• 53:33
  So we'll drop and. Maybe even maybe even things
• 53:36
  behind things for the same reason.
• 53:37
  That said it, it's a little more like early bonaver then, OK.
• 53:42
  The other options, No, I'm with that too.
• 53:43
  Yeah. I mean, whatever makes this part
• 53:45
  easier. All right.
• 53:49
  So really, we're looking at day one versus everything is
• 53:52
  peaceful love. I mean, again, we have enough
• 53:58
  room to take them both. Is this a one or the other
• 54:01
  situation? Yeah, maybe I this is nitpicky.
• 54:09
  The vibe of Hey Ma and everything is peaceful love feel
• 54:12
  similar in a way. And then this might this might
• 54:17
  be a reach. But one of the cool things about
• 54:19
  day one to me is that there are a couple of other artists like
• 54:25
  featured on it, which hints a little bit towards Justin
• 54:29
  Vernon's greater project of working with a lot of different
• 54:33
  artists. Like like Big Red Machines last
• 54:36
  album was basically a totally collaborative piece with like
• 54:42
  all kinds of different artists. And then day one has Dijon and
• 54:46
  Flock of Dimes, which is Jess Wagner from Y Oak.
• 54:52
  And so like, I, I think it'd be cool to hint at the fact that he
• 54:56
  is so collaborative with that track.
• 54:59
  I mean. Is that a reach?
• 55:01
  I don't think so. I, you know, we're again, we're
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  trying to show what this guy does and if we don't want to, if
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  we don't want to kind of push same vibe slash same sound type
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  stuff like, which is what you said with peaceful love, then I
• 55:23
  mean, day one would be the natural choice.
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  And you know, I just got to ask you, Brandon, you were in on
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  that one. You weren't in on peaceful love.
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  Is this a hard sell for you? No, I, I, I, I like the, the,
• 55:41
  the, the logic of it sort of being collaborative and sort of
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  like a big, you know, sort of coming from being alone in the
• 55:53
  cabin that there were other people that were there to put up
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  and everything like that. But like, and then to like the
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  big huge sort of collaborative, just throwing in a bunch of
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  people. Jamming out, man.
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  All right, so we'll grab that as our 9th song.
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  Now the big question. We've got one more spot.
• 56:19
  Everything is now represented. Is this just a Best Song goes in
• 56:27
  Let me run down What what we got left here.
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  We got 33 God faith still hanging around Minnesota,
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  Wisconsin. I guess technically everything
• 56:37
  is peaceful. Love is out and then skinny Love
• 56:42
  and Wash is one of those jumping out at you, Luke.
• 56:50
  Yeah, a lot of the tracks are jumping out at me, but in a
• 56:53
  weird way I maybe I'm too influenced by like Boney Bear
• 57:02
  fans. I think 20 to 1,000,000 for a
• 57:07
  lot of people, particularly Bonaver people is really
• 57:12
  important. And I'd almost like I would
• 57:14
  argue that we should just pick y'all pick whatever track you
• 57:17
  want off of 20 to 1,000,000 and that should be included because
• 57:22
  we have you like you know what I mean?
• 57:24
  Like we have one on there and we all went with a bunch of
• 57:28
  different tracks from it. But I think it's it's an
• 57:31
  important album for his evolution and I'd love to see
• 57:36
  another one in there, whichever one it is.
• 57:38
  All right, so that would point to 33.
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  God being the only one. That's the.
• 57:44
  Only one that had a 2. Yeah, the only one still around.
• 57:48
  You both had it. I didn't.
• 57:50
  If you're good with it, Brandon, we can put that one through
• 57:53
  that. One good.
• 57:56
  All right, boom, let's do it. Let's not overthink the room,
• 57:59
  eh? Beautiful.
• 58:01
  All right, so let me shift that out.
• 58:03
  I'll ring down this 10 and then we'll crank up the heat a little
• 58:05
  bit. Be funny if I if I did the math
• 58:08
  wrong and it was actually 11 and we had to go back and cut it.
• 58:12
  All right, so we've got blood bank restacks, Holocene flume 29
• 58:18
  hashtag Stratford apartments. Could be could be hashtag.
• 58:23
  Who knows? Beth rest for Emma.
• 58:25
  Hey, ma day one and a 33. God, I read those 10 down to
• 58:30
  you, Luke. And which one of them is the
• 58:33
  one? The one to me, I hinted at it
• 58:38
  earlier. I think it's Holocene.
• 58:40
  What? Do you think, Brandon?
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  I I was actually just about to say that too, because when when
• 58:48
  we mentioned that, it's sort of like, like everybody was sort of
• 58:54
  like picked up like, Oh yeah, oh, it's like, Oh yeah, yeah,
• 58:56
  that, that. Yeah, yeah, you know, again, why
• 59:03
  fight it like. Yes, it's, it's late.
• 59:07
  It's been a long day. We'll just yeah.
• 59:10
  Justin so agreeable. He's like the devil's one.
• 59:12
  Let's let's just wrap this whatever you want.
• 59:15
  But I mean, like, not to be that guy, but I, I do feel like there
• 59:20
  something could be said about all these really.
• 59:22
  Like, I feel like he's rather prolific, especially, especially
• 59:28
  if you're me and you came in through the Taylor Swift gate
• 59:31
  like it is. So it is exactly what you think
• 59:35
  it is, but it also is so much more than what you think it is.
• 59:37
  And you know, for that, I, I really, I really enjoyed this
• 59:42
  journey with this gentleman. So we're going to go with
• 59:46
  Holocene. We're not going to fight it.
• 59:49
  Let's run it down one last go. Holocene is our number one blood
• 59:51
  bank. Restacks Flume 29 Stratford
• 59:56
  apartments. Beth rest for Emma.
• 59:57
  Hey, Ma, day 133. God, my brain isn't working
• 1:00:00
  correctly. But that doesn't mean we're not
• 1:00:02
  going to give Holocene a moment in the sun.
• 1:00:14
  Fucking hell. That's good.
• 1:00:17
  That's good, fellas. I also I don't know if I've ever
• 1:00:21
  related to a lyric more than at once.
• 1:00:23
  I knew I was not magnificent. Good Lord.
• 1:00:28
  That strikes a chord. Especially right now as I try to
• 1:00:32
  wrap this up because oh boy, am I not magnificent.
• 1:00:35
  Hey everybody, we have done it. We've turned you on to Bona
• 1:00:38
  Bear. Maybe you are like me and only
• 1:00:40
  know the one song. Here's your chance to go ahead
• 1:00:42
  and get into him. Maybe you've been calling him a
• 1:00:45
  Bone Ivor this whole time like me.
• 1:00:47
  Also duh. And like Jason Bateman.
• 1:00:50
  And like Bateman, like so look, we're not alone, but we should
• 1:00:55
  be right about it. And now we are.
• 1:00:56
  There you go. Here's a 10 song list for you to
• 1:00:59
  listen to and get into him. Is it is well worth it is worth
• 1:01:04
  noting. It is well worth the time it'll
• 1:01:05
  take you to listen to the entirety of his discography.
• 1:01:09
  It isn't a lot. I think it was like six out or
• 1:01:12
  five albums. It's 60 songs like it.
• 1:01:15
  It's not It will not take you too long to go through.
• 1:01:19
  It is worth picking through. It is worth just giving it the
• 1:01:22
  time to really kind of really pull in what this guy can do.
• 1:01:27
  But I think we we've set you up nicely with this playlist.
• 1:01:30
  Hey man, you want to argue about it?
• 1:01:31
  Wherever you're listening to this, stop writing it.
• 1:01:34
  Well, continue listening, continue listening.
• 1:01:38
  Don't stop listening, continue listening, but leave a comment
• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:56
  Sharing is caring, of course, if you want at times is tough.
• 1:02:00
  I get it if you've got that little bit extra
• 1:02:02
  patreon.com/show. Hi Justin.
• 1:02:04
  A dollar a month gets you in the door.
• 1:02:06
  It gets you deprogrammed before the rest of the world.
• 1:02:08
  It gives you the conversation we're about to have where
• 1:02:10
  Brandon's going to release how we did versus, you know, how
• 1:02:14
  many people have listened to these tracks.
• 1:02:16
  Just saying that's the after the fact conversation that's about
• 1:02:18
  to happen. You also get the ever so
• 1:02:21
  occasional oh, hi Justin. I'm working on trying to get it
• 1:02:25
  back into my schedule, but Devil's Hockey just started so
• 1:02:30
  maybe I'm a sports guy right now, you know?
• 1:02:32
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• 1:02:41
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• 1:02:44
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• 1:02:46
  Just ask me for a link, we'll get you there.
• 1:02:49
  Come in, grow a tree, we count. There's deprogram panel channels
• 1:02:54
  where you can say, hey, I'd like to talk about this band and find
• 1:02:56
  people to talk about it, talk about them with you.
• 1:03:00
  There's also the Music League, all sorts of stuff happening in
• 1:03:03
  the Legion of stupid Discord. Come hang, it's a good time.
• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:10
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• 1:03:13
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• 1:03:15
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• 1:03:20
  We will see you next week. Goodbye.