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Father's Day · The Pork Roll, Egg, And Cheese Podcast

• Shamus: hello everybody and welcome to another fun episode of the pork roll egg and cheese podcast I was gonna say sandwich podcast my name is Shaman Herbie: I'm Herbie Barbie ⁓ Shamus: As always, we're so glad that you're here with us. What's going on bud? Herbie: Yeah, man. nothing. was like, you know, work wasn't too crazy or nothing like that, but I was excited because I want to do a little camping out in the backyard at Uncle Len's house. Shamus: ⁓ we got to do that real quick. ⁓ this show is actually sponsored by Uncle Leonard and the Village Handyman. All right. Our buddy Leonard is just a local guy ready to help improve your home's needs at an affordable rate. You can reach Len at six ⁓ nine seven eight four six eight six two or at the Village Handyman at Facebook and Instagram. It's also brought to you by Tatooine Right. Star Wars nerds. Herbie: Yeah, yeah. Shamus: Go see our buddy Brett or one of his highly talented artists for all your tattoo needs. With two locations in Browns Mills and Wright's town, they cover everything to first timers, to sleeves, to huge back tattoos. And every tattoo is a true masterpiece. Can contact them through Facebook and Instagram. And remember they don't do piercings. All right, so you're kicking it with the village handyman. Herbie: And no belly button. Yeah, so it's like it was me, his daughter, Kim, and we just hung out like it back in his backyard where he's got like the little like secret grotto carved out of woods and and the lakes there. So we had a tent set up and just had a little bonfire, had snacks, beers, wow, wow, ho gogers, ho geese. They were delicious. Yeah, man. So, you know, it was nice that we woke up this morning. We're like. Shamus: It's that time of year, man. Herbie: crash hour this weekend too, so tonight is gonna be like round two of camping at Uncle Len's. Shamus: go bud. There you go. That's cool. I got a lot done this weekend. pressure washed all the concrete around the pool. I kind of I'm starting to figure out the pool thing. I had it redone three years ago by Swimmore. They did an amazing job obviously you've seen it. Yeah. ⁓ and in order to keep the warranty you have to pay for these ⁓ three years where they come They do all the chemicals, the pool well, this is the year I didn't have to do it so I could save myself like thirty seven hundred dollars to something Herbie: It's very nice. Shamus: And ⁓ yeah, I'm starting to figure it out. The people at Jersey pools and spas right up on Stokes Road. you just walk in with your water and they and they tell you exactly what you need and give you a step by step thing and I learned how to vacuum it, how to hook up and so we're off and running. so yeah, I learned a lot doing that and like I said, just doing stuff around the house. cut the back grass today, I gotta do the front grass tomorrow and just a busy week. Herbie: Yeah, it's all good. You're always busy though, But like I the pool does look great though. Actually, weather like this, man, this weekend, everybody is like, Shamus: I love being outside. I love doing something. So Bro, it is I know this episode's coming down on Monday. ⁓ we're actually sitting here Saturday, June twentieth and it's five o'clock and I've got all the windows open in the house and it's not hot in here. It's today is actually gorgeous. Yesterday was like this Herbie: Yeah, nice little breeze and stuff. Yeah, it's beautiful. Shamus: Well tomorrow, since you all know what day it is as we're sitting here talking, tomorrow is Father's Day. Herbie: Yeah, Farja. Austin Powers Farja. Shamus: You got any plans for their tomorrow for Father's Day? Doing anything with dad? Herbie: I think, dad, I believe he's probably hanging out with my cousins and stuff because he likes to hang out and know, sees his, you know, he's always like, big daddy is retired. He's, he's, he's barely ever home. Like I'll be home for like a couple of days and then just takes off and, you know, just does this thing. Oh yeah. You know, but he was always like that, you know, like he would, he would do his nine to five off on the weekends and either like some would be done at the house or something, or he just, you know, take off and do his like fishing and hiking and camping and. Shamus: He's out running with the boys. Herbie: Go get one time you got dropped off like in the woods in Canada. You should do that. And when my cousin nice, he's been he's been into stuff like that. But now, of course, getting older, he's got to slow down. So it might be small camping trips and, you know, him just hanging out, probably smoking a bowl. Yeah. Having some some brewskis. Shamus: Hey. Yeah, ⁓ I just remember You know, as a g my father passed away in the beginning of twenty fourteen, January twenty fourteen. But like when I was a kid, you know, you make ⁓ the card and all that stuff. Mother's Day and Father's Day was completely different at my house. ⁓ you know, you got flowers for your mom, you know, the card, and then, you know, we pretty much told her have a seat. Like we got everything, we'll barbecue and stuff. My father was the opposite. My father we'd get him a card and he would be like, All right, I'm barbecuing, I'm having a couple of beers and relaxing, you guys just eat what I make and dah dah dah and you know, we I kinda as a kid I hung out with him, but yeah, ⁓ when I was a teenager stuff he was one of those guys just like yeah it's father's day you I appreciate you get the fuck away with me it's father's day yeah it's my day beat it like he would grow for us and stuff but I mean other than that it was just like here's if it was a if it was a day like today he was out on the deck having a couple beers with the name like all the fathers would be up on the deck and having a couple beers and stuff ⁓ yeah so mom wanted to hang out dad really didn't want kids so Herbie: Yes. ⁓ like you're playing. That's cool. Yeah. He's like, I fed you, go and get. Shamus: Well now he's beat because I have his ashes right behind me on the other day. So he's stuck with me all day. ⁓ just to give everybody some we need to get back to the educational part of this. ⁓ we kinda drifted away from that. So I came up with a bunch of well not came up with them, but I did some research for Father's Day. And I have some facts. ⁓ here's some of the history. Father's Day is celebrated annually on the third Sunday in June. Everybody pretty much knows that. Herbie: Can't go any farther. Shamus: ⁓ the very first public event specifically honoring fathers had nothing to do with Father's Day. It took place at a church in West Virginia on July 5th, 1908. It was a memorial service for 362 men who died in Fairmont Coal Company mining explosion. Wow. Yeah. I was kinda like, man. I don't know how God bless miners all around the world, the people that still do that stuff. Some guys just got stuck again. They had to go out and get ⁓ Shh. I I can never do that job though with that. ⁓ All right, here we go. Sonora Dode, who was raised by a widowed Civil War soldier, first proposed the holiday at the Spokane, Washington YMCA in 1910. It took a while for it to gain momentum. Although President Woodrow Wilson supported the concept in 1916, and President Lyndon B. Johnson issued the first presidential proclamation in 1966. So that took fifty years just for them to get it to the table. President Richard Nixon, signed a law making it a permanent national holiday in nineteen seventy-two. So it hasn't been it ⁓ Herbie: Yeah, it's like new, I mean, according to our years. Shamus: Yeah. I mean I'm five years older than Father's Day. Jesus or five years younger. That's crazy. Herbie: Yeah. I thought, yeah, I actually, I didn't realize that I thought it'd be around longer than that. Shamus: Yeah, I forget Mother's Day's been around way longer than that. So Herbie: It just took a bunch of coal miners dying in order for them to be like, Hey, you know what? Maybe we should have a day for dudes too. Yeah. Shamus: But that was even Christ. Sixty some years later after that. But I mean that when I read that I was kinda like, man, that's kinda screwed up. But the same sense I was kinda like, That's men back in those days. You know what I mean? We don't need a fucking day. We'll just take the whole year. Yeah. Like, we don't need a day, dude. So let's see what else we got here. I got some fun facts here, too. ⁓ also a big greeting card day. It is the fourth largest card sending holiday in the United States ⁓ nearly one hundred million cards sent annually. But here's the catch: only about half of these cards are bought for dads. The rest go to husbands, grandfathers, sons, brothers, and uncles. Really? Herbie: Really? Shamus: I mean they're dads too, so like my mom used to buy my brother a Father's Day card, so yeah. ⁓ that's cool. Yeah, it's pretty wild. But I guess in the same sense, Mother's Day would be the same thing too. Like mom would bought my sister a card 'cause she's got a kid Grandmom's and Yeah. Herbie: Yeah Eugh! Auntie's, this side Auntie. ⁓ Yeah, go my baby. Happy Go My Day. Shamus: Go mark. Yeah, this is another one I didn't know. ⁓ the official flower of the holiday, Father's Day, is the rose. Traditionally you wear a red rose if your father is alive and white rose if he has passed away. ⁓ I guess that's an old school thing. Yeah. Which is kind of weird because that's like a thirties, forties, fifties error thing. And they said it wasn't a national holiday till seventy two. So they must have rec like people must have celebrated, but it just wasn't a national thing. The necktie. Herbie: That's crazy, I liked it. Shamus: According to the US Census Bureau, the necktie remains the most popular of all traditional Father's Day's gifts with an estimated twenty million given to dads every year. That's insane because nobody really dresses like that anymore unless you're like a lawyer or something like that. I have all my dad's old ties. ⁓ I actually rock ⁓ too. Like I have a job interview coming up on Wednesday. ⁓ good luck. ⁓ yeah, thanks. So I'm gonna rock one of his ties. Nice. So Herbie: should have like a a wife beater shirt tie that'd be kind of cool. Yeah, because like there's so many dads out there where like goddamn wife beaters are like in regular t-shirt and stuff. Shamus: ⁓ no doubt, but I don't think that'll fly at a law enforcement interview. Herbie: True. Oh, yeah, Shark Tank idea. Shamus: All right, let's go back to some weird facts. The oldest card, the earliest known Father's Day card, is over 4,000 years old. Which is I I just don't this is all over the place, but like how it wasn't recognized until 72 and it was bought up in 1908. And apparently they were saying it was carved on a piece of clay by a Babylonian youngster named Elmazoo. E-L-M-E-S-U. Elmazou. To wish his father good health and a long life. Hmm. Where the word dad comes from is estimated to have emerged in the 15th century. It is derived from the infantile baby talk, like dada, a phonotic sound that is nearly universal across many languages. I guess every kid, whether you're Portuguese or Middle Eastern or wherever Canadian says dada. So that's where it came from. And then according to the studies. Herbie: That's cool. Yeah Shamus: Such as research from the University of North Carolina, humans rely on more of the DNA inherited from their fathers than their mothers when it comes to expressing genetic traits. Yeah? I guess. So Herbie: Really? I guess that makes sense. Wow. So like the first... Shamus: Well, I mean, to be honest with you, my sister is my father incarnate. So I mean and I do have some of my dad's stuff. ⁓ a lot of people say I'm lean more towards my mom. But ⁓ yeah, I I mean do you have any of I you said something about your dad likes your camp? I you like your camping, so you must have got that from him. Herbie: I like, yeah, well, cause he likes to hike and fishing and all that stuff. But, I think, ⁓ there's certain type of personality traits. I see myself in, in him and, sometimes like the body build, you know, the, build of the body, should say. And, ⁓ yeah, that's, I didn't really even think about that until like, five minutes ago, we started mentioning this stuff. So it's like, you know, Information at once. I'm still like trying to like, what do call the process? The idea of, know, the first Father's Day car was in CUNIA form in Babylonian. Yeah, I was like, Jesus Christ, that's for Shamus: This is that health and a you know, good life. Herbie: Yeah, that's kind of cool, man. Like, you know, learn CUNIA form or even give like data card in clay. Just like printed out with a wood stick like happy birthday. Fajr. Shamus: Yeah. He's out there with his little hammer and chisel ⁓ So yeah, I when I was a kid growing up, my dad always said, You look just like me. And my mother was like, You just look like your father. And I'm like, Are you kidding me? That is the ugliest dude in this goddamn house. ⁓ And think it was right before I left for the military. My dad dusted off his military, his basic AIT book. And he was like, open the page 47, row two, third right, third million from right. And like I looked and I was like, ⁓ Herbie: ⁓ It is Shamus: ⁓ we were sp I dude. I was like, ⁓ So that's why people ask me because if you ever see my bathroom, I've got the apricot scrub, I've got the s morning sunburst like shit you wash on your face, like the facial scrub. I got like all the eye cream stuff and da da da. I even got like that green clay shit you put on your face and let hard and the type really but people are like, what the fuck, dude? And I was like, You see this dude right here? And I show him a picture of my dad? Like, ⁓ and I was like, Yeah. Herbie: Yeah. ⁓ Shamus: Not me, bro. Before, after. Before, after. That's years of you know drinking, smoking, ⁓ you know, just d breathing in all the gas fumes from his shop and you know, the Bondo in the air and stuff. The dude never wore a mask, smoked Camelot filters. I mean, trust me, he was a tough little dude, man. Herbie: Yeah. filter massacre for communists. Exactly. It's America. Shamus: I said that's nope. Nope. We're trying to ⁓ we we're trying to keep this as young as we can. Herbie: Yeah, preserve the face. That makes sense, Shamus: I think like towards towards the end, like he there's a thing like when they did that movie Rocky Balbell, like the last one where he f came out of retirement after forty years, they have a clip of him on YouTube where he's out in front of the house where he met Adrian, but and he was like, you know, I just wanted to come down here one last time. He's like, I don't know when the next time I'll ever if I ever even come back to Philadelphia, he's like, I'm over this. As he's talking, I was like Herbie: that. Shamus: Called my brother, I was like, I'm gonna send you a clip. Tell me what you think. And I sent it to my brother, and my brother's like, Why is Jimmy in front of Rocky Bal Bell? Because that's my dad's name. And you never and that's another story I'll get to in a second. But I was just like, he looks just like the fucking guy, right? My brother's like, that's Sylvester Stalin. He was like, My father was a spitting image, like even hair in the eighties and all that stuff, the build was different. But my father looked just he resembled Sylvester's. Herbie: Yeah. Actually, yeah, he did. He's got little longer hair in the back, though, right? Yeah. Shamus: He had like in Cobra, he had like the big puffy eighties hair with like it looked like a like a monkey's ass like on top of his head with the part my father had that. He had the same shitty sweaters they wore. I was like, ⁓ my god. ⁓ at his pictures, I'm like, ⁓ my god, my dad just looked like Sylvester Salon. ⁓ Herbie: pizza with scissors. ⁓ Shamus: Just gonna say we'll we'll get to that too in a minute because a shot was fired on their last pod. Herbie: Yeah, dude, this is going to be a going back and forth all the time, man. Shamus: And but ⁓ another reason why we called him Jimmy, like even me and my sister, we always called him Jimmy. So like when we got older, I think I was in the military. I was like, yo, let me issue something. I said, why even that, like my military buddies when they came down to see me at Fort Benning, I like, Yeah, what's going on, Macker? Hey, what's up, Jimmy? Hey mom. And they like, Is that your stepdad? I'm like, nope, that's the real McCoy. And they were like, Why do you call your dad Jimmy? So I asked them, I'm like, why don't I what's the deal with that? Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: And he was just like, I didn't want everybody to know I was old. I said, What? He goes, When you guys were kids like I would just it's Jimmy. 'Cause I didn't want you like Dad, Dad and like, you know, if we were out and you know, some girl was walking by Herbie: You want to be the cool uncle. Shamus: I don't like this fucking dude. So Herbie: Yeah, I never called my dad, you know, her because he was another Herbie. Yeah. pop dad, Faja, also known as all Tossan, because, know, that's, you know, Japanese for father or, you know, just say father. You you know, just like he's he's more like the type of guy he's like, he can be very funny, but he's very dry sense of humor. Shamus: ⁓ okay. What you call ⁓ pop? Herbie: So like, I'm definitely more goofy like my mom, whereas dad is like, you know, the alternate side, but he's definitely like more quiet. Um, he reminds me of like, you know, like some of the wise guys from like, you know, like Joe Pesci and all that stuff. It's just, he's just got that mentality. He's just like a really short guy, broad shoulder stocky. And, uh, he's just, you know, has like the old New York attitude and the New York state of mind, man. That's definitely him. Shamus: Yeah, my father was a a bit of a a bit of a clown at times. Like he loved attention and like he he was quick with a joke. Yeah. Always had some kind of weird magic trick going on or something like that. ⁓ but he also had like a side to like I said, he owned a bar and second in Rock when right off the boulevard in Philly. And it was a roofers bar. It was a rough bar, man. And you know, some of the stories when you're growing up you hear and like from credible sources, you're just like, Dude, you're just like I mean like the guy when This is how far back he goes when Frank Rizzo was like a lieutenant or something like that with the Philadelphia Police Department. He was working that area and they were doing raids in all the bars and stuff like that. Well, after the first bar got raided, they would start picking up the phone because they didn't they wouldn't sell phones and text messages back. They would call all the other owners, all the bars, like, yo, they're on the move, da da da. So my dad was talking to s this would be pre before my mom. Yeah. He was talking to some chick at the bar and they're like, Hey Herbie: Yeah. Yeah. Shamus: Rizzo's on the move and dad's like, I don't give a fuck. Fuck him. And they came in and they're like, and Rizzo's who are you? And he was Italian. And back in those days, he Italians in Irish, then it was Jimmy Mac's bar. So he's like, who's the fucking you know, whatever Irish ⁓ fucking dirty Mick owns this bar? Dad's like, I do you fucking greasy. And like he was like, You know who I am? My dad's like, Yeah. ⁓ And just fucking ⁓ Herbie: Yeah, it did not make sense. Yeah. ⁓ Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Shamus: I said, how'd that go? He was like, well after I woke up with a coma for five days, because they I mean back in the day the police apart beat the shit out of you. Yeah. I was like, God damn, bro. So he didn't and it's always the little guys, like you said. My dad was only five foot four, maybe five. But he was you know, he had that fire not he wasn't he just had like really big forearms and like shoulders and Herbie: That's when everyone had a night's day. Shamus: And if he hits you, man, you know it. Herbie: My dad was like, he's still alive and stuff, of course he's not like... you know, a fighter anymore, but he definitely was a fighter. He was like in a gang called the Scorpions way back. And this is like, you know, during the 50s and shit. He had like a couple of buddies because he used to work. He used to be a bartender at a bar, too. And there was this one buddy of his that was named Punchy and Punchy was the next boxer. And of course, he was an alcoholic. But all they would do is just it was almost like the Hercules and Thor meeting each other from Marvel Comics where Hercules just runs up to like Thor is like, Hey, greetings, Thor. Just like they just start punching him. So my dad started learning Shamus: Okay. Herbie: learning how to like a boxer by fighting his friend all the time. I that's basically all they would do is just like drink and then would fight each other. And it would just be like random fights. ⁓ yeah. That's it. Shamus: They were friends since they were kids. ⁓ up until my I haven't seen him since my father passed away. I don't even know if he's still alive. But I mean, ⁓ guys each other and then they ⁓ the shit out of everybody else or get their asses kicked together, you know? ⁓ Herbie: Yeah. I just beat the shit out of you. Yeah. Yeah. As I remember, when we went back to the Bronx, like this was years ago, went to see Aunt Liz and Uncle Mike and their sons, my buddy, Mikey and Richie. My dad went back and, you know, hung out with Glenn and he took him back to the old bar. And of course, you know, he was like, hey, back in the day, me and this guy, everybody used to whoop this shit out of me. Of course, it just turned into a big fight. So they got in a fight. They got into their truck and my dad's hanging outside gave me my uncle Glenn gave him a friggin' bat. And he was just driving along on the sidewalk with all these people outside the bar, man, just swacking the bats, smacking them with the bats and just throwing trash. ⁓ yeah. Shamus: It's back in the day, man. Can't do that shit. Herbie: Yeah, because he was in he was in Jersey for like a little, you know, for a couple of years, you know, until like this happened and it was like he got to be re initiated back in the neighborhood. ⁓ Just like swacking the dudes with bats and stuff is nuts. But my dad was always like that type of guy that ⁓ he was like, he liked to dress flashy. He liked to wear jewelry, look like, know, like a big shop money bag, you know, money bags type type guy. Shamus: Yeah, my dad ⁓ that's cause I always ask my mom 'cause you hear somebody I'm not gonna tell the story on here. If you ever see me out in public or if you're listening, just text me and I'll He beat up a blind guy one time. Really? But for good reason and it's I'll tell it. I I'll tell the story. Guy was a roofer, but he was built like a shit brick house. The guy was like six foot two, like two twenty. I mean just solid rock. ⁓ and he was a drinker, so he went home one night and all banged up ⁓ him and his girlfriend got into a fight and he took a gun and he went to blow his brains out, but he didn't go like all the way to the ear, he just went to the front of his face and when he pulled the trigger he blew his eyes like across ⁓ face so blinded him. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: So he would come down to the bar and sit there, but the guy was still a monster. And his sister was a bartender at my dad's bar. And anybody that would hit on her and shit like that, the guy would just be like, Hey, who is that? Somebody'd be like, Hey, it's me, George. And he was just like, Where are you at? I can't, you know, obviously I can't see you. Where are you at? And like he would get up and he would listen for your voice and then be like, Yo, I'm right here. He would like, Hey, where and like go to pat you on the shoulder and then move his arm around and grab the shirt in front, like the where your chest is. Now he knows where your head is. Herbie: Yeah. Yeah. Shamus: And once he had a hold of you, you couldn't get away. And he was fucking just bang, bang. He won more fights blind, apparently, than he won fucking. Yeah. So one night my dad was drunk and is before my mom, and he's flirting with it. And he was Hey Jimmy, is that you? And ⁓ his name is Harry. Hey Harry, it's me. He's Where you at, Jimmy? He's Yeah, I'm down here. So the guy comes walking down and he was Where you at? My dad, like, as he's sitting on a bar stool. Herbie: That's smart, he got the drop one. Shamus: Was like, I'm right here. And then he got up off the barstool and backed up. And when the guy reached in where my dad used to be, my dad was like, the guy fell over. My dad kicked him twice. And he was like, and then he picked him up. He's Don't he was like, I she's been working here for years, dude. Nothing's going on. He smacked him around a little bit. Sit down. Get him a beer. But he was also the guy that, according to my mother, was like Anthony Hopkins in the Mask of Zor, like charm. Like everything was, ⁓ yeah. Herbie: Yeah Dude, that's funny. Shamus: He opened doors. He made sure she always walked on the inside. Just like my grandfather. And like you said, kinda he always dressed nice He always had like a wad of money with him and, you know, like that scene in Goodfellows where they go through the Copa and they're going through the back door He was like, Your dad used to do that shit all the time in Philadelphia. He knew everybody because he owned the bar. So, you know, ⁓ sometimes he would drink and he would get, you know. Real like happy and just goofy and shit. And then he was a like a gentleman and stuff, but when he had to be nasty, he could be nasty. Herbie: So that's basically it. That's basically how know. Shamus: Hustler man, that guy wor he always had like a bit like he had the bar, he had the auto body shop after he sold the bar because my mom said we had to sell it, he was drinking the profits. Yeah. bought the auto body shop and the speed shop and stuff, and then we moved over to Jersey. He worked for ⁓ Riverside Township Public Works and all the stuff. I mean, and then still did the car shit out of the back garage there and like the guy was always doing something, yeah, moving. So and they don't make dudes like that anymore, man. Like some Yeah. Herbie: That's where you get your stuff from too, Shamus: Yeah. Like I said, some of our other like Big Bob at the wax carrot factory. that dude you give that guy a weekend, two nails, a set of two by fours and a hammer and he'll build you a hammer. Herbie: Always doing something. He's like, God damn MacGyver, man. It's just like, you know, give him a couple beers. Shamus: ⁓ you you're up there on a Saturday and you go back next Friday for you know party at the house and you're like, Where the fuck did that shed come from? He's like I build it. When? This morning. Yeah. Dude, it's thirty by twenty. Herbie: Yep. You Yeah, he's still got his goddamn compound to me. It's just like, Shamus: Those dudes, man. That that it's like I said, that generation. I would like to think our generation is still trying to pass it. Like some of my nephews and shit, like my brother does it. I do it with my sister's kid all the time. Yeah. He had my car when he was in high school. I bought another car, so I gave him my old car, and he pulled up one day and he was just like, Yeah, the car's got a flat. And he just looked at me. And I was just like, Well, what do you want me to do? Yeah. He's like, Well, I don't let's go, Point Dexter. Herbie: Yeah, I'll show you how to do it. Shamus: So we walked out there, I'm like, here we go, open the trunk, open the that's ⁓ so when he came home, he just got in on Thursday. He's here for a week and he was just like, Hey man, I did my first breaks the other day, my first set of breaks. I was like, On your car? And he was like, it was the first time I did it. I did it on her car. Yeah ⁓ Herbie: Get a learning curve. Shamus: He just laughed. He's No, I tried my car. Apparently nowadays, like ⁓ the new c you have to reset the sensor. So you can't even do a break job by yourself anymore. Everything's gotta go back to the company. That's why I buy old shit. Yeah. But ⁓ yeah, he did I think he said he did her car. He said it took a little while, but he figured it out. And then I think he tried to do his, but he's gotta do it when he gets back. Herbie: There's so many new parts. There's even like a ⁓ engine cover for new cars. I'm like, for what reason, man? Shamus: Yeah. And that's that's why I said that's it's it's getting lost like you know, dads passing down to their sons, like, here's how you change oil, here's how you change an alternator, here's how you change the thermostat. You that kind of stuff. Like me and my father used to do that all the time. Like, what are you doing tomorrow, boy? I'm like, I don't know. He's like, Thermostat, what in your mom's car? Thermostat one ⁓ one, eight o'clock tomorrow morning, be on the side of the house. Yeah. All right. And like I was interested in that stuff, so I wasn't like, God damn it. Herbie: Yeah. It's like it was always fun doing projects. Shamus: Yeah, anything he could do. Well, I mean he could rip an engine out, rebuild it, and throw it back in. He was one of those guys. ⁓ it was a lot easier back then 'cause you didn't have all the computers and all the emissions bullshit. But I mean, there wasn't too much stuff he sent out. ⁓ that ⁓ unless he had some shit in his shop that he was just like, I ain't got no room for this and you know, send it to a guy in town, one of his buddies. Yeah, like But I mean he taught me all that stuff. Herbie: Yeah, my dad was never like mechanically inclined and stuff like he worked, you know, the bar. And then later on, he became a fire safety director for a high rise building. But he was more like the muscle, like like like for any type of like a work job, you know, labor. Yeah, labor type deal. But, you know, there was times where, I know, when we first got our house. You know, me and him are, you know, scraping like the paint off and he's up on a scaffold. He even fell off the scaffold. Like, you know, we had like septic. So after a while, like that was done and he had to dig like this big long ditch from like the backyard to the front in order to do the the regular, you know, water and all that stuff. So he's always more like, you know, manual labor type guy. He was never like the technical, you know, he can knock up like a a porch or anything like that or a shed. was never like that type of guy. know, his type of tools, like he would have like maybe like a small bag of tools and either they were kept in the basement or outside and gathering rust. So it's just like he was never like that that guy with a shed with like tools and you know, so I'm learning. I'm slowly learning that myself. ⁓ But like when it was time for him to do, you know, certain types of jobs like manual labor type stuff, he was just just a goddamn little pack mule man. Shamus: ⁓ my dad was the opposite. You could walk into a shop and he always if he didn't have anything going on, like on Father's Day or Sunday you never wear. He would sit he had a desk outside in the shop and he had like a small T V out there. Yeah. Like even during the flat panel days, he still had like that one T V where on the side it had like the dial, like a radio dial And I was just like, dude, we can get you like a twenty two inch little flat panel and hook the cable to it and it's like, Yeah, get out of here. Works. What do I need to know? But anyway Herbie: ⁓ that's cool. Yeah, he's like, I know. Shamus: He would sit there and I'd walk in and I'd be like, hey, can I borrow ⁓ like a caulking gun And he'd be like, you know, third shelf on the right in the box labeled house shit. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: walk over there and it that's where it was. Like it was crazy. Hey I need a ⁓ I need a torque wrench, a three quarter inch torque wrench. He was like bottom shelf on the right next to the whole collar side. And like you're just like walked in like he knew where everything was dude. Everything and God forbid if you didn't put it back. Yeah. Holy shit. Herbie: Well, my dad's like, where the fuck is my hammer? I'm like, you had it. You were the last one to have it. And he was like, oh, I didn't know where to put it. Like, you know, I spent like another 20 minutes helping him find the hammer that he lost. Yeah, it all pissed off about it. Shamus: weird he was ⁓ like just a wealth of yeah but like general like make like yeah just cutting the grass. He'd be like yo in the beginning of the season Herbie: knowledge. Shamus: you cut it short at first, then you let it grow higher because when it gets summer, you don't want it too short because and then at the end of the season you cut it real low for the winter time and then you cut it in certain days. You and I was just kind of like, Yeah. And if you ever and you always called it as forty acres, the grass on the side of the house was about the strip of this table from here to that window. That's a fuck you know so much about grass, you ain't got none. ⁓ Herbie: Yeah Shamus: I mean I always cut it as a kid. Yeah. But that was another thing we had to do. We had chores around the house and stuff. And he would show me, you know, Like a push broom. Yeah. Like I was cleaning out the shop one day and I was pulling out he was like, It's a push broom, it's not a pull broom. ⁓ and then we give you a history of it. If you pull the dirt to you, you know, you get your shoes all dirty and stuff. So you push you push the dirt away from you and ⁓ He caught on to it. Eventually I was like, ⁓ I would do something wrong purposely and he would come over and be like, let me show you how to do this. And then he would do all of it. And I was like, thanks, And one time he was he caught on to you little. All right. Herbie: Yeah, got more work for you now, Shamus: He would ⁓ as I was doing something, I would be like here and he'd be like, No, no, no. Keep doing what you're doing, but I'm explaining to you and I'm walking away. So, but yeah, he just I mean, and that's it's like I said, and this was back before like Google and stuff. Yeah. Like you actually had to know this stuff. It wasn't just him, it was like all dads back then just kind of knew. Herbie: Yeah. Yeah, this is an alt-hat even. It was like the code of the dead. Yeah. Shamus: It was it's like I said, and now everybody just looks at their phones and and I do it too, don't cause my dad's not around anymore. But you know, there's certain things like the pool thing. Yeah. I went and you know, had to hook up a and I looked out, I was like, ⁓ my god, this is so easy. But ⁓ yeah, and I think society's lost that in some other than then and stuff like that. Herbie: There's a lot more of that. I can see a lot. I can see a lot more guys not knowing what to do for like their car or anything like that. Yeah. Even like real flat tires and stuff. They could just be like, I'll just call somebody. I mean, can do it yourself. Shamus: Yeah, when I told ⁓ my neighbor the guy who lives next door, he's ⁓ he's a little bit younger than me. Yeah. He's like maybe in his ⁓ he's actually a lot younger. God damn I'm old. He's probably around thirty, thirty-five years old. Yeah, he's a fucking nerd. But like the other day he had a flat. And I was just like, Where's the where's the flat at? He was like, What do you mean? The whole tire's flat. I'm like ⁓ Did you run over a nail? Herbie: Yeah, right. Shamus: Go out like and he was just like, I don't even know. I was just gonna call Triple A and I was like, Hold on a second, dude. Yeah. So I went and grabbed my dad's five ton race car jack because he had the race cars and stuff and he fucking went over there, two pumps, that shit was like I spun the tire around, I'm like, it's a nail, bro. And he was just like, Really? And he's looking and I was just like, Plug it. And he goes, What do mean? Like what? Just put some silicone around it? ⁓ Herbie: Yep. Shamus: Stay here, nerd. Got my little plug kit. Yeah. Pulled it out. And I'm like, yo, don't go nowhere. Come here, bro. And I showed him how to do it and all of a sudden he was like, I don't. Is this gonna work? I'm like, it's been tried and true since 1928 when they started making fucking cars with rubber wheels, bro. Yeah and tubes. I'm telling you, this shit's gonna work. And when I did it, bumped it up and stuff, and he was like, Why do I set reset my Herbie: there. Shamus: T PIs, which is your tire pressure, like them little lights now. And I was like, You gotta get one of them. I have one of them OBD things. Yeah. I couldn't find it. I was like, You're not the but I mean Herbie: Especially with these new cars dude, you need a goddamn computer and all Shamus: So today he pulled up today he pulled up and he looked at me and he was like, I can't believe that thing's holding air. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Herbie: Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, after a while, you might want to get a new tire anyway, because, you know, that's not really like, I mean, it can be used as a. ⁓ I drive. Shamus: The shit out of it. As long as it's in the middle of the tire. If it's not on the sidewall or near the sidewall, if it's on the middle his was dead center. So Yeah. It's like I said, I mean, I don't know where his dad is or what the deal is with that, but I was just kinda like, dude. Herbie: I could be like, you know, another like a business type dad where he was just like, you know, the big money office guy moneymaker, you know, instead of a blue collar guy, you know, like normally like blue collar guys are the ones that are more well rounded because, you know, like a guy that an office guy is either always at the office when he comes home, he doesn't really have to do the hands on type deal and he doesn't do hands on type deal at work. So he's not going to he's just going to outsource the the labor to somebody else. Shamus: Well like said, I'll never put anybody down because of that because, you know, every father's different. But I I will say I was truly blessed with a guy who taught me the meaning of you know, hard days work. Yeah. You know, if you can fix it yourself, you do it yourself. You always take care of your girlfriend, your wife, you know, you know, all that stuff like that. ⁓ always pay your debts. You you know you got me arrested when I was a kid because of this. ⁓ It was what was his thing? So it was three things. You always pay your debts. Uh-huh. ⁓ your word, your marker, you scall it your marker. Your marker's always as good as you were. You know, if you say you're gonna do something, you do it. Yeah. He's like, and never let anybody reach their pockets when you're in an argument with them. Yeah. And yeah, I floored a kid one time. Cause we were arguing about something. Yeah. And he was like, Yeah, and he went like this and Herbie: Yeah, you don't know what the hell he's pulling out Shamus: Yeah. And we were I forgot it was a public place. And of course, you know, people are like, Well, there happened to be a cop. I think it was like at a carnival or something like there had to be a cop right there and it grabbed me. So we got to the station, they were like, What happened? And I was just like, Look, I don't know who this guy was. We were arguing, he reached in his pocket. I don't know if he's pulling a knife or a gun and he was like he was reaching for his wallet and I like, I don't fucking know that. Like ⁓ I mean all charge like he was like, Yeah, you know, 'cause that's apparently they there was no cameras back then. Herbie: Yeah, who the fuck's gonna reach his wallet? Yeah. Shamus: He talked to a couple of witnesses, like yeah he did reach in his pocket for something. So cops like, Yeah, I would have done the same thing. Yeah. But I no par charges were pressed, but my dad said drill like you have no idea what that person's doing. Herbie: Exactly. You really don't. And that that that holds true still to this day. Shamus: Yeah. He taught me bar I mean owned the bar, he taught me bar etiquette. You know, when you're done, you put your beer on the rail, you know, you leave your money on the bar. You don't keep taking money off the bar and stuff like that. You tip as you go. You always tip well. Yeah. at weddings, one of the first things I do is there'll be 9,000 people at the bar, like after everybody gets settled. And as soon as I get up to the front, I'm like, ⁓ let me get whatever I'm getting. And when he comes back, I throw a hundred right in front of him. The guy looks at me and he I was like, I'll be back. Now he's every time there's ten, twelve people online, like, hey, what do you need, bud? He'll point right past him. And then I always twenty after that, keep them coming. Yeah. And he taught me that. Yeah. You know, you always take care of the people that take care of you. Yeah. So yeah, it's like I said, I was blessed with a you know, he was a good dude. So very knowledgeable. ⁓ very family oriented. ⁓ he did have some demons. Yeah. ⁓ every once in a while I tie one on and just get really nasty. But But I mean, nobody's perfect. Yeah. Herbie: Yeah, mine too. Shamus: It's like I said, I always told me when he after he passed away. I never understood 'cause they argued a lot, my parents. Yeah. ⁓ and when he finally passed away, I think I mentioned this in the pod before. Yeah. You know, we were the last two, 'cause she wrote me at the viewing and she was like, I just w I was You ready? And she was like, I just wanna say goodbye one more time. And I like, All right. So she walked over and She was kind of like Gotti the whole way through. She didn't cry. She didn't do any of that stuff. Da-da-da. And that's when she Yeah. And I was like, holy shit, she truly loved that dude. And that's when I've actually I actually saw it. Yeah. ⁓ So yeah. It's like I said, it's ⁓ I I was truly blessed. Herbie: Nice. So. He's a cool dude, Shamus: So let's see what else we got here. Alright, so what we'll do to wrap this up as we'll start and no particular order or anything like that. We'll just name some of great movie and TV dads over the years that you can right off the top of your head. ⁓ 'cause I was looking at this list and some of this list is just horrible. But ⁓ you can go first, bud. Herbie: I will say that you I would say Al Bundy. Yeah. Yeah, he's just like, yeah, you know, mean, because like it's a comedy and shit like that. He just it almost seems like he hates his life, but the guy will not leave it or not. You know what mean? He just quit. Yeah. Just takes care of his family. Lives a crappy life and just wants a meal every once in a while and and for Peg not to touch him. Shamus: ⁓ he's number one. To me that dude is Just one That guy is a absolute like a freeze frame of what fathers were in that era. They would go to shitty jobs and they would come home and you know well my mom always cook or like they went back and forth because sometimes my mom worked third shift at the IRS. But ⁓ they would come home and then just be like, now I gotta deal with this shit. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: And then deal with us and then maybe for like 30 minutes to get to watch like shotgun whatever he watched or you know, watch, you know, T V for a couple minutes and then they wake up in the morning and do it all. Yeah, and it just is no matter how bad it got, those guys just chugged along, man. It was great. Yeah, that that guy is I would say probably the number one in my book. ⁓ number two, I'm gonna take another one right out there. Like Homer Sampson from The Simpsons. I mean that guy. Herbie: Sure. It's like Groundhog's Day. ⁓ yeah. Shamus: I the reason I put Bundy at one is because he was a high school athlete and all that stuff who probably couldn't have been a pro and you know ended up knocking up Peg and up but like Homer is just I used to call Big Bob Homer when I was a kid. Yeah. Like, hey Homer and he he made me a shirt. I still have it to this day. I don't think it'll fit my cat. But he made me a shirt that says hey Homer on it. ⁓ Homer Simpson is iconic. Yeah. I mean he's been on TV longer than probably any other goddamn TV dad in the history of Herbie: If there. Shamus: Telvis. I mean Sesame Street's the only thing that's been on longer, I think. Sesame Street's got like sixty years in here now. Sixty seasons. Herbie: God, yeah. Yeah, jeez, yeah. Jesus Christ. ⁓ Shamus: ⁓ Wonder what the to the property taxes now on Sesame Street. Herbie: Yeah. Do you think they got a Starbucks or anything? They got to have a Starbucks or what is it like? The hell is a Trader Joe's. Shamus: Who you got next, Bob? Herbie: I will probably say he was very campy and all that stuff, but probably the pretty bunch dead. Yeah, because you also have like, you know, the dead where it's a multiple like kids are not his, you know, because, you know, that's that's the thing now. Like everyone just builds their own families and stuff now and. Yeah. So but he's always you know, he was the hardworking guy. He was able to like, you know, not only mentor the family, but he just. kinda kept everyone on the right on the right path you know morale moral wise you know and it looks like he was baller he was a rich rich guy cuz you know he had an alice that was like the homemade cooking Shamus: It's like a five night shirt I had when I was a kid. It was a surf company shirt and on the back. It just said Alice Don't Surf and it was a picture of her on the back. Herbie: Yeah, really? It was funny too, because I never really watched Brady Bunch a lot. Yeah, like a full one. I'm like, eh. Of course, know, the music and all that. It's just it's just another one of those shows where it's on all the time. Like when you're a kid. Shamus: I'm taking Frank Costanza. Einfeld. And ⁓ he was also in ⁓ King of Queens. That dude. I love the outtakes. Yeah. Cause that guy, because that's Ben Storr's dad, I think. Yeah. Imagine having that dude in your dad. Herbie: And Festivus! He is free. Shamus: His outtakes on Seinfelder is hysterical, dude. Yeah, that guy he's like another one of those guys like he's in my top ten of like having dinner with of like you can have anybody like Frank I I don't need Laura of Still or whatever his name is. Who you got next, buddy? That's four. We'll go ten. Remember you can do movies too. It doesn't have to just be T V. Herbie: Now you got me thinking too. ⁓ ⁓ okay. I would say Liam Neeson. When he was like, you know, when his daughter got kidnapped and he just- ⁓ absolutely. I mean, like when you just go through and track everyone down that stole your daughter. ⁓ it's great. Shamus: Look on that dude's face when he walks in and he was just like and he was talking, he was like, I told I'd find you and he was just like He just tears everybody up Herbie: Heheheheh! Yeah, that's a good one. Shamus: Yeah, I love how Kami is. He was like, Okay, get up under the bed, da da da da now they're gonna take you and Herbie: I was like, hey. It's like Jesus Christ. Who you got? Shamus: Yeah, that's that's a good answer, buddy. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna stick with TV, Fred Sanford. Sanford is son. Yep. He always took care of ⁓ the big dummy. Yeah. Herbie: Okay, yeah, I dig it. Yeah You big ⁓ dummy. Shamus: So always had ⁓ always had something to say about say like he was like you want five across your lip. Because ⁓ that that was my dad, my dad would say shit like that or yeah. But ⁓ he doesn't get enough credit. A lot of I think he's kind of being lost in time, like Fred Fox, yeah, who he was and all that stuff like that. But on Sanford's on, he was awesome as the dad. Yeah. So next. Herbie: I'll probably pick a one that was like a father like figure and I'm going to say the old guy from Chico and the man. Shamus: You got me beat. I have no idea what you're talking about. Herbie: It was like Freddie Prinze, Freddie Prinze Jr. It was a TV show. Freddie Prinze Jr. when he first came out was a Spanish comedian and they gave him a show like almost like Sanford and son. Shamus: Freddie Prince Jr.? Yeah. The dude from She's All That? Okay. No, is that Herbie: Well, no, that's his son. Yeah. I don't know if I'm correct. I believe the guy that played the old man and Chico and the man was ⁓ grandpa from freaking Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. OK, yeah. But it was just like, you know, like a father figure to him, you know, so I. I'll put it like into not just father, but father figure, you know, not the biological father, because you can actually be a great father and, you know, not be and not be your kid. Shamus: Yeah. All right. My pick is gonna be Robin Williams and Mrs. Dalfire. Who would do all that just to hang out with their kid? And that that's something my father said. He's like, Who would do all that to hang out with y'all? Herbie: ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Shamus: I he did a lot. That guy learned how to cook. Yeah. He had to do makeup every day and do all that. And then he had to clean the house and Yeah. Yeah. So I mean that's loyalty right there. Herbie: Yeah, all he did was love his kids, This is I guess because he was like in that lifestyle that... It's like less responsibilities, but then when the shit hit the fan, he got his shit together so he can get his kids back. Which is cool. Yeah, Salifield's always like little cutie. Yeah, I love her. Trying to think who else. Shamus: Yeah, man. Yeah. That and Sally Field looked amazing in that. Herbie: All right. George Jetson. Shamus: ⁓ well I'll tell you what, we'll knock out all the c well we'd mentioned Homer, but I mean like him, Fred Flintstone. ⁓ who else? Herbie: Yeah. Yeah, George Jetson. ⁓ It's pretty much, pretty much as far as like cartoons. It was like, you know, Shamus: All the parents in Charlie Brown were just like Herbie: They were like, yeah, they were like, not even around. Shamus: I don't even know if you had a dad or a mom, if you had both every once in a while the door don't be able to say. Herbie: What hell did they eat? You know what mean? They were all like latchkey kids. Like no parents were around. It's almost like a like a nice version of Children of the Corn where they actually might have killed them all. And the kids are just running around their town with a talking dog. This is like what the shit, man. Shamus: Yeah, I never understood that. ⁓ well I guess and the little rascals you never really see adults either. No, yeah. In the TV show. Herbie: There was always like that one old guy that tried to make all the kids eat mush and I still to this day I cannot eat hot cereal like oatmeal or I'll ⁓ probably get into it sooner or later now, but yeah oatmeal Because I would just sit there and watch like, you we're gonna put No, man, if you gotta add a bunch of shit to it to make it taste better then that's a problem Shamus: If it's done right I can eat ⁓ I love Something in it herb you can't just eat it straight up. Buy just ⁓ a quick ⁓ thing of honey, like raw honey and maybe some blueberries or strawberries. Like I don't buy that shit that comes strawberry flavored and all that stuff. I buy like that big ass thing your grandmother had of just like oats. It just has oats on it. Yeah. With that big William Penn dude on there. Yeah. And then I just take ⁓ like a splash of honey or you know, it's just some fruit like Herbie: Yeah I was probably not bad. mean, I've had cornmeal and stuff like that, but I'm just not a big, you know, like when I, when, when I started watching it, it was like, you know, the little rascals and that old man would have all those kids at the table was like, your mush. And I'm like, can't do. And then one day my dad was actually like babysitting cause mom had to go shopping and she's like, make him make him breakfast. And he made me oatmeal. I'm just standing there looking at like, this is not scrambled eggs. You know, it's like he's like, he's like, eat it. He was like, this is you. And this was like, you know, back in the day when your parents made you some you ate it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just, you know, sat at the table and waited for that thing to turn a concrete, dude. It went from like the little rascals to like some other movie and to like a Godzilla movie. And I was still like, you know, from morning till afternoon, I was still sitting at that table because he's like, you can't leave until you eat your oatmeal. And I'm like, I don't want it. Shamus: Or can't have your pudding and pudding if you have your meat. ⁓ I'm gonna go with ⁓ and o he was only a dad in like the ⁓ one in end game, Tony Stark. yeah. When he did the I Love You 3000. Yeah. And then when Gwen Balcho, he was like, Yeah, just talk to her. He was like, You're somewhere in the 1700s. He was like, I'm I'm up around three grand now. Like that guy, he was just like, Clean up your toys or I'm I'm donating ⁓ Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: Like my parents used to say all the time, but they would scream it like, If you don't clean this up, we're gonna throw all this stuff out. Like th just the way he moves with it, he was just like He's like, Yeah, remember, I love you. Clean all this stuff or we're donating it. And just ⁓ Herbie: That's awesome. Well, then I just go up with like Tony Stark's dad because after Howard Stark, yeah, he left the he left the blueprint for him to refix the. The what the hell is the Jesus Christ, the goddamn. ⁓ Yeah, yeah, keep him alive, yeah, he knew that his son would be able to figure it out and it saved his life. Shamus: Yeah. I'm surprised you didn't go with ⁓ Sean Connery and Indiana Jones. Herbie: Well, actually, yeah, too. That's another one. Because you like when you bust it out, you're my holy shit. That's a lot of people. Shamus: Is that Yeah man. There's a bunch of ⁓ it's it's like I said there's so many of them. ⁓ Vito Corleone. Yeah. You know, he was always real protective of his family and all that stuff in the Godfather movies. Yeah. ⁓ Yeah. Herbie: Well, that's like, you know, the thing for a great father is like, there's like that nurturing type of thing. You protect them. You, you, you, you bring them up. You, you, put a roof over their head, a shirt on their back and food on the table. Like that type of responsibilities that they, never stop doing. You know what mean? They can be pissed off at you or you can do like a, you know, horrible job of being a kid. They still paid the bills, still had made sure there was shirt on your back. Still had a full belly, you know, and they went every day to those mundane jobs that they hated to provide for their family, you know, so I Shamus: great TV dad ⁓ Kevin Arnold's dad in the Wonder Years. That guy never said anything. He would just come home and just do Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: And then when he did say something, he would just scream and yell. Herbie: We're red from that 70s show. ⁓ God. Shamus: Yeah, right. ⁓ my I would love you if you just walk up to somebody let me something. You're a dumbass, right? Herbie: Hehehehehe Shamus: What would you do with this situation? Yeah, yeah, Red Foreman was awesome. Also great as Clarence Podtiger in Robocop, the original Robocop. Herbie: Yeah. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ dude, he was evil on that. He's like, Can you fly Bobby? Shamus: But yeah, there it it's like I said, there's so many of ⁓ Jesus Christ. ⁓ you know, the guy different strokes. Herbie: ⁓ yeah, yeah, and think that like I said, like he had his biological daughter, but you know, he had Arnold and Willis and he was still a great father figure to him. Shamus: ⁓ that's another thing we didn't ⁓ if you're a stepdad taking care of of people's kids, man. 'Cause this episode is for the dudes who do it every day. So stepdads are included. Like now if you're one of those dudes that have kids, don't pay child support and always worried about the cops picking you up or living under a bridge somewhere, just avoiding shit this episode is not for you. Herbie: Yeah. Shamus: For the dudes that are doing it every day. Whether it's your son or daughter or somebody else's son or daughter and you making ends meet. Yeah. And you trying to, you know, raise kids to be the right way. Herbie: Cause it really is, it's about sacrifice. Whether you're your mother, like you're a mother or a father. It's just, it's about sacrifice and nurturing your kids and taking care of them. Shamus: ⁓ yeah. Well make no mistake, whether you have Mother's Day or Father's Day, it's a team effort, man. It takes a village. Yeah. So yeah. So we salute all them dudes out there doing the right thing. Herbie: real pops out there. Shamus: What you got going on the rest of the day, bro? Herbie: I'm going to go back to the woods, maybe recharge my electrocaliprod in case I get the beaver invasion from the lake. Cause they are aggressive and they do have their main camp next to where I'm camped at. So there might be some kind of entanglement. ⁓ yeah, dude. They're Shamus: It's fucked they're resilient, man. Like I said, you see it on TV all the time. Let's go world, get that dynamite, let's blow up my goddamn three days later, they're back building it back up. I'm like, dude, just move. Herbie: Those things are that there's no joke, man. That's how everyone at work. They're like, are you serious? Like I battled Beavers all the goddamn time. It's. I know. Well, you know, it's like when I said that I was I was talking to some nurses on labor and delivery and they were asking me like what I was going on this weekend. And I was like, I bought electric cattle. I do like, no, you didn't because they hear like, you know, the podcast and some like my posts and stuff. You're hitting them. Shamus: I'm sorry, my mind went so With the whole calibre. Herbie: And a freaking shelter. You didn't get an electric caliper. I guess I did not pull it up. So I'm like, why do you have that? Like one, it's cool to beavers. And then, of course, you know, being that them working on labor and delivery, you know, there was plenty of beaver jokes being thrown around. So yeah, that's basically my plan is going to go back out there, crank some tunes, grab some num nums. And just really just enjoy nature, man, because this is like the type of weather for it now. You know what mean? Yeah. And I was just at the, you know, Rita's farm before I got here. So that was nice going around the golf cart, just checking out the whole, you know, got to see the horses, got to see the goats. Yeah, that's always out there. Yeah, that's always like nature. And there's a Garx party at Big Bob. So maybe I'll do. Yeah. happy birthday, Garck. Shamus: Good day. Happy birthday. ⁓ yeah, my nephew will give a shout out to my nephew, Kevin. He's home from the military. His birthday was yesterday. My God, he's twenty-seven already. I remember, dude, we're in the middle of the desert in the Middle East, and mail call comes like once a week. And ⁓ and I told him this last night. I was like sitting in this fucking tent. Herbie: Yeah, happy birthday, Kev. Shamus: Just cut like everything in the tent like got sand all over and shit. 'Cause like the wind just constantly blow. And like I was just miserable. I was like in the middle of one of them god awful deployments. And ⁓ somebody walked in and I was like, Amy McKnight, you got mail and I like, Hey, no kidding. And my mom always you know, people always wrote me. So I looked up and like my sister very rarely wrote wrote when I was away. And it was from her and I was like, Hope she doesn't need money or something. So like ⁓ Herbie: Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Shamus: I opened it up and there was this picture of this little ass baby and it said, Welcome to the world, Kevin, his stats, his pounds and ounces and I was just I was telling him last night. 'Cause he's been to that part of the world now now 'cause he's a captain in the military the greatest goddamn corps the United States Army Military Police Corps. ⁓ he's a captain now and He's been to that part of the world. I was like, Man, that's kinda cause his his career path kinda resembled mine a little bit, but now he's been in longer than I have, so he's getting ready to go somewhere. I'm not gonna put his business out there, but it's like I said, ⁓ I was like, Yeah, dude, you were probably sitting in the same area I was when I found out that you were born. So Jeez. But yeah, that's how and that seems like yesterday. And that was twenty seven years ago. Herbie: Yeah. I still remember when he's like a little kid running around with a little mohawk and all that stuff, man. was, yeah, Jesus. So what's up, Kevin? Shamus: Yeah, we saw I mean him and my other team have we used to beat the shit out of them dudes. Herbie: Yeah. Yeah. I think remember the last time I probably saw him was at the block party. You got had your house years ago. And for anyone listening back in the day, I used to have like a lot of these belt buckles at like the Darth Vader belt buckle and all that stuff. So I decided I would get this beer bottle opener one. Yeah. Don't use it to open up beers. It just it just you just did not do it. Yeah, I was like, I've worked. But, you know, in order for you to do it, it like I was, you know, whacking, you know, waxing my carrot with a frickin beer bottle. And then, you know, there's a bunch of beer all over my junk. And of course, like when you're at a block party, that's the one thing I never understood as if if your jeans get wet, dude, your jeans can drive. But your boxers will always be the last frickin things to dry no matter how many hours go by. It's just very uncomfortable. I like it. Shamus: Yeah. Herbie: You know, that party. Yeah, I never. was like, the shit? And I was talking to that girl, so was like trying to act like I was not uncomfortable with my work. Yeah. It's trying to be all cool. Shamus: Yeah. Alright, so happy birthday to Gark. Happy birthday to my nephew Kevin. And ⁓ I guess we'll catch you guys on the next one. You got anything else, bud? Herbie: ⁓ That's about it man everyone enjoy this weather man. You know either go out and do something crank some tunes like I'm doing Shamus: I'm getting ready to man. When people are listening to this, I've got like two hours left to I cause this is dropping Monday. So I'll be at school. And we got two hours left, man. My summer's getting ready to start. Yeah. So yeah, get out there, enjoy it, man. All right, everybody. Remember to take care of each other, yourselves and your community. We'll catch you on the next one. Say goodnight, Herbie. Herbie: start. Enjoy it, man. Do it. Good night everybody.