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A Tragedy Has Delayed the SpaceX Starship V3 Launch · Made of Stars

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Speaker 4: I'm Wes Carol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean Cruise,
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Speaker 4: as an executive director at Columbus State University's Coca Cola
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Speaker 2: Hey Sean, Hey, well, that's good to be here today.
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Speaker 4: We have a follow up on one of our stories
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Speaker 4: from last week. It is an update on the fact
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Speaker 4: that the space X Starship Version three the Mega Rocket,
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Speaker 4: delayed their launch. It's a sad reason that it delayed
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Speaker 4: their launch, but we have to start with the reason
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Speaker 4: that the delay happened, and then the latest on the
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Speaker 4: whole situation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm quoting from space dot com, but there are
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Speaker 2: several news outlets who are covering the story. But apparently
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Speaker 2: a contract worker working at SpaceX's Star base in Texas
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Speaker 2: has been killed in some kind of an accident or
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Speaker 2: some kind of of an issue. So this is a
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Speaker 2: really sad story. We don't like reporting it. We wouldn't
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Speaker 2: talk about this story necessarily except that it is affecting
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Speaker 2: other things that we had already begun talking about, as
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Speaker 2: Wes mentioned. But apparently this death occurred Friday morning on
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Speaker 2: May fifteenth, and down there again. It's at Bokachika, which
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Speaker 2: was called it was called at one point, but it's
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Speaker 2: now SpaceX's starbase site in South Texas. Apparently the death
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Speaker 2: occurred around four am local time on Friday last Friday,
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Speaker 2: as we're recording the show. And this is all according
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Speaker 2: to the San Antonio Express News. And so right now,
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Speaker 2: all we can really tell you about it is that
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Speaker 2: the US Occupational Safety and Health Administration or OSHA, is
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Speaker 2: investigating this incident, and we don't really know a whole
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Speaker 2: lot other than that there's some speculation out there. I've
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Speaker 2: seen some other things that people have said, but it's
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Speaker 2: not worth reporting here until we really know what's taking place,
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Speaker 2: all right, But here comes the second story, then, which
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Speaker 2: is we record the show once a week, right, so
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Speaker 2: our podcast is once a week, and the last time
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Speaker 2: we came out and we're talking about SpaceX and Starship,
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Speaker 2: we were telling you that vehicle was probably going to
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Speaker 2: launch before another podcast would come out. Well, here we
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Speaker 2: are again, we're recording and it has not yet come out.
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Speaker 2: Now it's still May, that vehicles may still launch. Today
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Speaker 2: we're and kind of we're keeping an eye on that.
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Speaker 2: We're I'm going to talk a whole lot about that,
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Speaker 2: but it was bumped from the previous Tuesday until today, Thursday,
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Speaker 2: the twenty first of May, and SpaceX has delayed that
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Speaker 2: because of the investigation taking place at the starbase, and
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Speaker 2: you know, they just have to kind of bump things
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Speaker 2: off and wait until they get a window of time
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Speaker 2: where they can do that. So it turns out this
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Speaker 2: is a fairly critical test for SpaceX of their vehicle,
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Speaker 2: because NASA is sitting around kind of waiting for them
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Speaker 2: to show that they can actually launch Starship and accomplish
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Speaker 2: the tasks that NASA needs for them to accomplish, because
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Speaker 2: NASA is planning on using that for their human Landing System,
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Speaker 2: the HLS, on the surface of the Moon, and so
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Speaker 2: SpaceX is under a fair amount of scrutiny from federal
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Speaker 2: officials because of the NASA involvement, and there's been delays
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Speaker 2: in the program, and now there's been an accident. All
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Speaker 2: of those things kind of mixed together in a bowl
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Speaker 2: of not very pleasant ingredients, raising concerns that maybe SpaceX
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Speaker 2: is just pushing a little fast trying to meet those deadlines.
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Speaker 2: And I'm certainly not saying that I'm telling you what
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Speaker 2: I'm reading. You can read this article for yourself that
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Speaker 2: I'm referring to from Scientific American dot com and check
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Speaker 2: out their story on the delay launch, but also on
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Speaker 2: the take of the accident, it's tie in and just
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Speaker 2: the fact that SpaceX is really having to push it
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Speaker 2: to meet that timeline because they're competing with Blue Origin
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Speaker 2: for the Artemis three mission and for the eventual landing
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Speaker 2: on the Moon. So all of that's making an interesting
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Speaker 2: yet volatile situation in this sort of wild West frontier
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Speaker 2: industry of commercial space. There ties with NASA and their
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Speaker 2: desire to expand the horizons of exploring our solar system,
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Speaker 2: so there's.
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Speaker 3: A few things to tie into that.
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Speaker 4: And again I'm also not going to speculate much, but
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Speaker 4: just the things that jumped out at me from the
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Speaker 4: story that maybe you're leading to some of the speculation
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Speaker 4: from people, and I feel think there's two sides to this.
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Speaker 4: But when you see that this death occurred at four
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Speaker 4: in the morning, is one of those things that makes
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Speaker 4: you think, Okay, what are the shifts that people are working,
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Speaker 4: like what you know, through all through the night kind
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Speaker 4: of situation. Is this someone who was there on a
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Speaker 4: very early start. Is it someone who you know was
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Speaker 4: working this shift through the night. That may be something
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Speaker 4: that may have led to some of the speculation about
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Speaker 4: are they kind of pushing it? But you're getting to
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Speaker 4: a point where you're getting close to your launch and
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Speaker 4: it is a significant launch for you. I don't think
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Speaker 4: it's unheard of to have shifts of people working all
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Speaker 4: through the night on these situations.
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Speaker 3: So that's to me, you.
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Speaker 4: Go, well, that's probably pretty typical for it. The other
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Speaker 4: thing that jumps off the page to me about this
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Speaker 4: whole thing, and it's that constant reminder we talk about
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Speaker 4: this a lot. This is hard, this is dangerous, and
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Speaker 4: human life is always at the forefront for everyone involved
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Speaker 4: in it. There's no one that is just saying these
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Speaker 4: people aren't important. So that also includes the people on
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Speaker 4: the ground. We talk about it with the crew when
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Speaker 4: we say this is a crude mission and they're going
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Speaker 4: to go up, we talk about, oh, they want to
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Speaker 4: make sure that everybody there is safe. But it's not
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Speaker 4: just them, it's the people working on it. It's the
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Speaker 4: people on the ground, everything involved in it. Unless you're
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Speaker 4: a country that's launching rockets and just you know, they
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Speaker 4: kind of zip off into the jungle somewhere or land
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Speaker 4: in another country, you know, in a neighborhood, and that's
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Speaker 4: not us here in the US. There's other countries that
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Speaker 4: have done that a few times. Have they done a
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Speaker 4: little better with that, But anyway, we haven't had any
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Speaker 4: of those stories in a while from from China. But
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Speaker 4: the point is it's hard. There is a danger to this.
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Speaker 4: This is tragic. This is very sad, and they're doing
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Speaker 4: obviously the right thing by giving Osha and anybody involved
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Speaker 4: that needs to go and investigate, check out the conditions
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Speaker 4: for this accident, whatever happened, and then eventually they're going
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Speaker 4: to have to move forward because you know, they have
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Speaker 4: a launch that they do have to do, so taking
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Speaker 4: the time, the necessary time to do all of the
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Speaker 4: things they're supposed to do before they move on to
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Speaker 4: that next step. And it's part of the way this
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Speaker 4: whole process just works, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, given the fact that it's an industry, right And Okay,
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Speaker 2: so it's an industry, so the potential for industrial accidents
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Speaker 2: kind of always out there. It's not just any industry,
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Speaker 2: it's an in an industry that is dealing with very
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Speaker 2: volatile kinds of materials, very high energy output engine systems.
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Speaker 2: Just the vertical stacking alone, when you're stacking something forty
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Speaker 2: stories as all or.
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Speaker 4: Something aste, and in some cases very specific parts, like
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Speaker 4: very specific things needed for just this industry. Right, they're
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Speaker 4: dealing with something sometimes that like if this isn't your field,
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Speaker 4: you might be looking at a piece of equipment and going,
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Speaker 4: I don't even know what this is. Yeah, so it's
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Speaker 4: very specific. It's very specific training for what a lot
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Speaker 4: of them do. Sorry and go ahead, Yeah, no, you're
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Speaker 4: exactly right.
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Speaker 2: It's proprietary, right, So so it's not like, oh, well,
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Speaker 2: I you know, I worked on oil rigs, so therefore
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Speaker 2: I understand no, it's not quite the same, right. So,
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Speaker 2: so all of those things play into it. And I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying, don't hear what I'm not saying I'm not
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Speaker 2: saying so it's okay because it's just risky. No, I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying that it's never okay. And I do think
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Speaker 2: that we have to understand that it's inherently risky. And
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Speaker 2: you made a really good point that we think about
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Speaker 2: that risk being being bartered by the astronauts a lot
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Speaker 2: of times, but really it's a lot of personnel, well
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Speaker 2: beyond those who are actually going to fly in the vehicle,
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Speaker 2: who are at risk during the assembly, during the fueling,
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Speaker 2: during all the stages and steps that occur to make
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Speaker 2: these missions to space possible. And so all I'm saying
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Speaker 2: maybe is respect, right, just just respect, condolences to the
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Speaker 2: family of this person. Respect for the industry. I think
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Speaker 2: by and large we've seen some amazing, amazing, amazing successes
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Speaker 2: with relatively few deaths, straight up deaths in the space
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Speaker 2: industry in the United States of America at least, And
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Speaker 2: so again, no death is okay, But yeah, I I
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Speaker 2: just think we should all offer a genuine amount of
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Speaker 2: respect for those people who are willing to go in
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Speaker 2: work in this industry, produce these rockets, push America's space
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Speaker 2: program forward. It is important, friends, the space program is
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Speaker 2: definitely important. It's one of the ten leading emergent technologies
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Speaker 2: in the world today according to Stanford University and a
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Speaker 2: Blue Ribbon committee just chaired by Conda Lisa Rice, they
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Speaker 2: came up with the ten leading emergent technologies. Space is
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Speaker 2: one of those, and so these are all very important fields.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, respect to those people who go and work
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Speaker 2: in these fields, because it is actually dangerous.
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Speaker 3: More made of stars. Right after this.
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Speaker 4: Speaking of danger, we had a near miss as an
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Speaker 4: asteroid blew past the Earth on Monday.
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Speaker 3: It was.
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Speaker 4: Not one of those like the ones that they'll go like, oh,
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Speaker 4: this thing was the size of you know, the Empire
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Speaker 4: State Building or something that blew by, but it was
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Speaker 4: still a pretty big one that went by.
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Speaker 2: Neither was it the size of a washer dryer, right,
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Speaker 2: so it's kind of it's bigger than that, smaller than
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Speaker 2: the Empire State Building, big enough we should pay attention
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Speaker 2: to it. How big, Well, I've seen it described a
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Speaker 2: couple of different ways. One way was roughly basketball court sized,
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Speaker 2: and that was mentioned that way in the acuweather article
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Speaker 2: that I read acuweather dot com. Go check it out there, And.
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Speaker 3: That does give you an idea of the size.
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Speaker 4: I like that when we went to the to when
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Speaker 4: we were at Kennedy and a couple times we've been
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Speaker 4: there the VAB and they say, oh, the American flag
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Speaker 4: on the building is the size of a football field,
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Speaker 4: and we go, oh, okay, well I know about how
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Speaker 4: big that is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you could put a major League baseball field
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Speaker 2: on the roof of the VAB right, right, So those
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Speaker 2: kind of comparisons do kind of go oh gee, wow,
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Speaker 2: that's amazing. Right. So another place I saw it described
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Speaker 2: as the size of a jetliner, right, and so you know,
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Speaker 2: I don't think they mentioned a specific specific model number,
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Speaker 2: but okay, but a jetline. I get the idea. That's big. Right.
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Speaker 2: And this asteroid that was either jetliner or basketball court
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Speaker 2: sized flew past the Earth on Monday, May eighteenth. It
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Speaker 2: had only been discovered on May tenth, so we only
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Speaker 2: knew this thing existed for eight days before it was
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Speaker 2: making a pass in between us and the Moon. The asteroids,
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Speaker 2: now there's the catalog number, but they cataloged them based
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Speaker 2: on the year and month or quarter that they're discovered.
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Speaker 2: So it was asteroid twenty twenty six JH two, estimated
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Speaker 2: to be somewhere between fifty and one hundred and eight
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Speaker 2: feet in diameter. It was discovered by the Mount Lemon
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Speaker 2: Survey in Arizona, part of the Catalina Sky Survey, which
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Speaker 2: is a NASA funded project by the way. And so
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Speaker 2: this asteroid passed within about fifty six thousand, nine hundred
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Speaker 2: miles from Earth, so little less than sixty thousand miles
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Speaker 2: away from Earth. Well that's about that's actually less than
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Speaker 2: a quarter of the distance from Earth to Moon, the
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Speaker 2: average distance, so it's twenty four percent of the average
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Speaker 2: distance from Earth to Moon, which means, hey, that was
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Speaker 2: a lot closer to us than it was to the Moon.
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Speaker 2: We talked about although it's coming between us and the Moon,
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Speaker 2: but really that's a lot closer to us, three times
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Speaker 2: closer than it was to the Moon. So so it's like, oh, okay, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that was that was a little bit of a near miss.
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Speaker 2: Now the folks that NASA have come out and said, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was actually almost zero percent chance of the asteroid
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Speaker 2: hitting us this time. It's basically no statistical chance of
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Speaker 2: the asteroid hitting the Earth on this pass. But that's
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Speaker 2: this time. You see this this object's in orbit around
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Speaker 2: the Sun, and it's in orbit. It's in and orbit
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Speaker 2: around the Sun that can bring it in between the
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Speaker 2: Earth and the Moon, which is really close to the Earth,
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Speaker 2: and it's coming back. It's coming back in the year
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Speaker 2: twenty ninety, so it'll make another close approach by the Earth.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a long time. Kind of feels like
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Speaker 2: a long time, but you know, not for humanity. You know,
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Speaker 2: maybe maybe for those of us with gray hair, it's like, oh,
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Speaker 2: I don't have to worry too much about that, But
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Speaker 2: for humanity in twenty ninety, that's not that far off
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Speaker 2: in the future, all right. So so here it becomes
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Speaker 2: the important question who's watching after these things? Who is
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Speaker 2: really studying that and going, oh, that was only discovered
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Speaker 2: a week ago, and it just parted our hair on
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Speaker 2: a shot in between us and the moon, and it's
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Speaker 2: coming back here in just a few decades. Who cares.
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Speaker 2: Let's go listen to a you know, Bruno Mars video
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Speaker 2: or something. No, let's go ahead and study that. Let's
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Speaker 2: go ahead and watch it. Let's see where it's going. Right. Well,
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Speaker 2: this is where I'd like to tell you that the
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Speaker 2: observatory here at Columba State University's Coca Cola Space Science
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Speaker 2: Center is exactly one of those research facilities that is
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Speaker 2: keeping an eye on these objects. Ladies and gentlemen, we
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Speaker 2: are watching the skies for you. The research project that
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Speaker 2: we have has a brand new NASA grant. And I
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Speaker 2: know we don't usually in the middle of the podcast
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Speaker 2: jump into write what's happening at the Space Science Center
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Speaker 2: this week, but I'm going to go ahead and do
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Speaker 2: that right now because this is a bit of an
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Speaker 2: unusual tie in. So we are going to be closing
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Speaker 2: the observatory down for the next couple of months while
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Speaker 2: we execute the research upgrades from this NASA grant. We
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Speaker 2: are putting a new tracking mount and a new camera
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Speaker 2: on our research grade observatory telescope down here at the
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Speaker 2: Space Science Center for the exact express purpose of tracking
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Speaker 2: near Earth asteroids well and studying blazers and a couple
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Speaker 2: other things. But one of the research tracks is let's
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Speaker 2: see if we can contribute to the overall understanding of
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Speaker 2: any potentially hazardous near Earth asteroid that's newly discovered, and
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Speaker 2: we really don't understand its orbit very well, and we
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Speaker 2: want to make sure we know what it's going to
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Speaker 2: do when it comes back so that's what we do.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Andy Puckett here at Columbus State University leads that
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Speaker 2: particular research track. Our students in the Department of Earth
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Speaker 2: and Space Sciences here at Columbus State University are contributing
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Speaker 2: to that research as they learn to become professional astronomers.
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Speaker 2: And we have a brand new NASA grant that is
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Speaker 2: allowing us to upgrade our equipment and sponsor those students
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Speaker 2: for their research for the next couple of years while
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Speaker 2: we go out and track those buggers like Asteroid twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty six j H two for instance. You're welcome for
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Speaker 2: watching the skies for.
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Speaker 4: You, for anybody that I just think it's great that
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Speaker 4: you you reference, you know, an artist that has, you know,
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Speaker 4: something space themed in their name, so the Bruno Mars.
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Speaker 3: It's a really nice touch.
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Speaker 4: One point of circling back around and in my head
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Speaker 4: as I was saying and I thought, I think I've
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Speaker 4: got this wrong about the flag on the VA B
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Speaker 4: and we have some NASA people that listen, some at
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Speaker 4: Kennedy that flag is actually the size of an NBA court.
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Speaker 4: So that's about the size of this asteroid. I guess
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Speaker 4: if we're going to say basketball for I.
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Speaker 3: Said football field.
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Speaker 4: I said football field, but it didn't sound right as
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Speaker 4: I was saying it, and I thought I need to
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Speaker 4: verify this, so I was looking it up.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, it's good to fact it's good to
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Speaker 2: sell fact check. This is a podcast, and you know,
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Speaker 2: Wes and I are doing this. You are you know,
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Speaker 2: not spare time, but as a courtesy to you all
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Speaker 2: out there. We don't have all Sometimes we just pull
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Speaker 2: things out of our back pocket and we're not you know.
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Speaker 2: The one thing I do remember at the flag on
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Speaker 2: the VAB is that the stripes are the size of
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Speaker 2: a bus lane. Yeah, and Greyhound bus could drive down
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Speaker 2: a stripe. That's the one that always kind of stood
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Speaker 2: out to me. It's like wow.
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Speaker 4: And obviously what I thought stood out to me was incorrect.
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Speaker 4: So now, but I did kind of like something tingled,
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Speaker 4: Like I was like, this is not quite right. I
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Speaker 4: need to circle back and make sure, and I wanted
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Speaker 4: to get it right in case.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if it's all just the same, I believe
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Speaker 2: they played a few NBA games inside of NFL stadiums,
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Speaker 2: so you know, it's it all comes full circle at
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Speaker 2: some point.
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Speaker 3: You're giving me a lot of leeway. Do you give
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Speaker 3: your students that much leeway on tests? I hope not.
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Speaker 2: I hope not. I hope I'm tougher than that when
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Speaker 2: I'm grading, especially on the final exam.
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Speaker 4: More made of Stars. Right after this, speaking of asteroids,
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Speaker 4: let's talk a little bit about mining asteroids because an
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Speaker 4: attempt at trying to.
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Speaker 3: Land on it.
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Speaker 4: This has been an ongoing thing about landing on asteroids
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Speaker 4: looking for materials. We've had some successful emissions with that,
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Speaker 4: but this idea about mining asteroids and being able to,
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Speaker 4: you know, grab a lot of precious things and in
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Speaker 4: some cases just for science purposes. But mining asteroids is
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Speaker 4: something that people are interested in. What was the movie
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Speaker 4: there's a Sam Rockwell movie. Was it just called Moon?
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Speaker 4: Where it's about him? Yeah, Mining on the Moon. That's
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Speaker 4: a great movie.
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Speaker 2: By the way, that Sam Rockwell is a particularly entertaining actor. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: very diverse they are, and go win clean. By the way,
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Speaker 2: if you're watching that, don't read up on the movie.
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Speaker 2: Go in completely unaware and watch the movie.
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Speaker 4: And it's very enjoyable. But at times it's awkward, but
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Speaker 4: that's movies. That's the way they go. But it's enjoyable overall.
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Speaker 4: But this idea about mining asteroids is not like a
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Speaker 4: completely new idea, but it's kind of a new science.
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Speaker 4: It's a new process that people are trying to figure out.
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Speaker 4: And I guess a lesson was learned here recently about that.
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Speaker 2: We learned lessons along the way, don't we. We always
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Speaker 2: do so. All right, So there's an asteroid called Remember
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Speaker 2: the catalog number we just talked about the last one, right,
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Speaker 2: so it's you know, asteroid twenty twenty six JB two.
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Speaker 2: This is asteroid twenty twenty two OB five.
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Speaker 1: To bed.
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Speaker 2: It's not OB one.
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Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing. Get out of my head.
20:52
Speaker 3: It is still May. It's it's the month of Star
20:54
Speaker 3: Wars Day.
20:55
Speaker 2: But anyway, so we do.
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Speaker 4: Have a new Mandalorian and Grogu movie coming out this week.
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Speaker 4: So all of those things in play.
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Speaker 2: Yes, again, full circle here we are. But unfortunately not
21:05
Speaker 2: OBI wan OB five, not BB five or BB eight
21:11
Speaker 2: OB five. So asteroid twenty twenty th OB five is.
21:14
Speaker 2: It turns out after some spectroscopic analysis, the thing is
21:19
Speaker 2: just metal rich. And let's talk about rare earth metals.
21:23
Speaker 2: First of all, let's back up, have a step and say,
21:25
Speaker 2: you know, all those things that are really hard to
21:27
Speaker 2: find on the crust of the Earth, and we have
21:29
Speaker 2: to dig down either deep into the crust or you know,
21:32
Speaker 2: we know it, maybe it exists down in the mantle.
21:35
Speaker 2: We call those rare earth elements, and they're very valuable
21:38
Speaker 2: for lots of different industries, including producing electronics and batteries.
21:42
Speaker 2: And okay, you get the idea of the kind of
21:44
Speaker 2: stuff we're talking about. Well, what if we could just
21:46
Speaker 2: strip away the top layers of the Earth and just
21:49
Speaker 2: pull out the core and now it's just kind of
21:51
Speaker 2: full of all those kinds of materials. Well, friends, that's
21:54
Speaker 2: what asteroids are, many of them anyway. Many asteroids are
22:00
Speaker 2: just the bare naked cores of previously existing protoplanets that
22:06
Speaker 2: through collisional processes in the early Solar System, their outer
22:10
Speaker 2: layers were just removed, but that was after the differentiation
22:13
Speaker 2: process happened and all the really heavy stuff sut down
22:16
Speaker 2: deep into the core. And therefore, if you rip off
22:19
Speaker 2: the outer layers, you're suddenly surrounded by platinum and plutonium
22:24
Speaker 2: and gold and all these kinds of things that are
22:27
Speaker 2: really great and very expensive on Earth for various industries.
22:32
Speaker 2: So then, wow, what if we could just go off
22:35
Speaker 2: and go mine an asteroid. We could get right to
22:38
Speaker 2: the really juicy, valuable stuff and we wouldn't have to
22:41
Speaker 2: negotiate with hostile countries around the world who may have
22:44
Speaker 2: slightly greater supplies of these rare earth elements than we do. Okay,
22:48
Speaker 2: So that's the setup. Here comes the pitch. Astro Forge,
22:52
Speaker 2: a company that wants to investigate doing this very thing,
22:56
Speaker 2: targeting asteroids for extracting mineral resourcestly built a craft called
23:01
Speaker 2: the Odin odn Yeah, named after that guy, the Norse guy. Anyway,
23:06
Speaker 2: So the Odin spacecraft was going to go out and
23:10
Speaker 2: fly by asteroid twenty two I'm sorry, twenty twenty two
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Speaker 2: OBI five and go see scout landing points, see what
23:20
Speaker 2: the asteroid was really like, and yeah, just get a
23:24
Speaker 2: general recon so that we could potentially go out and
23:27
Speaker 2: mind this. And when I say we, I mean astro Forge,
23:29
Speaker 2: I mean we human beings. Okay, all right, So here's
23:32
Speaker 2: what happened. They launched the spacecraft and then they lost
23:34
Speaker 2: communications with it, and it never got out there and
23:37
Speaker 2: it never took the pictures and send them back. That's sad, okay,
23:41
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, ground based observatories in Spain also
23:47
Speaker 2: began analyzing that same asteroid twenty twenty two to ob
23:51
Speaker 2: five a little more carefully, and they were able to
23:55
Speaker 2: do something very unique because see, when asteroids are small,
23:58
Speaker 2: they can spin at a high rate of speed. So
24:03
Speaker 2: this telescope group in the Canary Islands controlled by Spain
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Speaker 2: was able to take multi wavelength imaging of that asteroid simultaneously.
24:13
Speaker 2: In other words, I'm going to take a picture in
24:15
Speaker 2: the ultraviolet and the infrared and the visible and microwaves
24:18
Speaker 2: and a bunch of different wavelengths all at once. Radio
24:22
Speaker 2: included in there as well, and then I can I
24:24
Speaker 2: can make sure I'm looking at the same part of
24:26
Speaker 2: the asteroid, because if I take them in sequence, the
24:28
Speaker 2: asteroid itself would have spun in that time. See what's
24:31
Speaker 2: going on there? Okay. So once they did that, and
24:34
Speaker 2: once they began to analyze their imaging, they realized something
24:39
Speaker 2: that this asteroid really was spinning fast. And when I
24:41
Speaker 2: say fast, I mean very fast. One rotation every one
24:46
Speaker 2: and a half minutes, every ninety seconds. How long is
24:52
Speaker 2: the How long is the day on the Earth? Twenty
24:54
Speaker 2: four hours? Right? Takes twenty four hours for Earth to
24:57
Speaker 2: spin around one time. How long is a day on
25:00
Speaker 2: this asteroid twenty twenty two OBI five ninety seconds the day,
25:06
Speaker 2: the day on the asteroid was shorter than that last
25:08
Speaker 2: explanation I just had.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've lived a couple of those days.
25:14
Speaker 2: Me too, I've actually lived the other kuid where like,
25:17
Speaker 2: is this day ever going to end?
25:19
Speaker 4: Also, many many of those here Lately it's felt the
25:22
Speaker 4: other way though, it's just been like.
25:24
Speaker 3: Wait, oh wait, it's what day is it now?
25:26
Speaker 2: Okay, it's day, it's night, it's day, it's night. Okay. Anyway,
25:29
Speaker 2: So astronomers classify that kind of an asteroid as what
25:35
Speaker 2: they would term an ultra fast rotator. So this asteroid
25:40
Speaker 2: that would be great for mining mineral resources, asteroid twenty
25:44
Speaker 2: twenty five OBI five. It turns out it's spinning so
25:48
Speaker 2: fast that if you landed on the surface of the
25:51
Speaker 2: asteroid that this centrifugal force. Centrifugal means it's actually kind
25:56
Speaker 2: of a fictional force, but it's it means the force
25:58
Speaker 2: that's moving away from the center, or it's the force
26:01
Speaker 2: that if you're slinging a sling around like David with
26:05
Speaker 2: a stone trying to kill Goliath. It means that force
26:08
Speaker 2: that would cause the rock to fly away from you.
26:10
Speaker 2: All right, that's a centrifugal force anyway, It's nearly one
26:14
Speaker 2: hundred times greater than the surface gravity. So if your
26:18
Speaker 2: poor little asteroid landing spacecraft tried to land on this
26:21
Speaker 2: particular asteroid, even if it got down to the surface,
26:24
Speaker 2: as soon as you shut the engines off, that centrifugal
26:27
Speaker 2: force through the rapid rotation is going to just throw
26:29
Speaker 2: your spaceship right back off into space unless you're able
26:32
Speaker 2: to anchor it down or do something kind of special. So,
26:35
Speaker 2: in other words, asteroid twenty twenty two to ob five
26:40
Speaker 2: not the greatest place in the Solar System to actually
26:43
Speaker 2: try to mind mineral resources unless you simply want to
26:47
Speaker 2: be flung off into space, unless you've figured out some
26:51
Speaker 2: way to anchor down while you can extract the resources.
26:55
Speaker 2: So this is just a reminder. And again, this story,
26:58
Speaker 2: by the way, is in Universe to Dayta, so I'm
27:00
Speaker 2: gonna use their language. This is a reminder that just
27:04
Speaker 2: because something in space is accessible, in other words, we
27:07
Speaker 2: can get to it, doesn't mean it's exploitable. Doesn't mean
27:11
Speaker 2: we can actually go there and use resources from it,
27:15
Speaker 2: or or you know, live on it or those kinds
27:17
Speaker 2: of things. So so cautionary tale friends for asteroid miners
27:22
Speaker 2: coming from the asteroid twenty twenty two oh B.
27:25
Speaker 3: Five more made of stars.
27:27
Speaker 4: Right after this, let's talk about this huge wave that
27:53
Speaker 4: is rippled through the Milky Way galaxy discovered by the
27:56
Speaker 4: European Space Agency. What is this? And I like that
28:01
Speaker 4: you sent me a photo of it as well, And
28:03
Speaker 4: again we are an audio show, and the I guess
28:09
Speaker 4: on the Sky at nightmagazine dot com website will have
28:13
Speaker 4: the photo. I guess that's where that came from, and
28:15
Speaker 4: that's where the story's from. But this is a cool
28:18
Speaker 4: I mean it looks like, you know, like a I
28:22
Speaker 4: don't know, seventies eighties rock bands album cover kind of
28:27
Speaker 4: kind of got that feel to it like this could
28:29
Speaker 4: have been you know, any number of those sort of
28:32
Speaker 4: soft rock bands from back in the day.
28:34
Speaker 2: I mean it could it's even leaning a little pink Floyd.
28:36
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, it has a little feel of
28:38
Speaker 3: that to it could have been.
28:39
Speaker 2: You know that that particular image on the cover of
28:43
Speaker 2: a Rush album would not be a surprise.
28:46
Speaker 3: No, it wouldn't be.
28:46
Speaker 4: That's that's where I was going to go. Rush that
28:48
Speaker 4: just seems like it's kind of got that feel to it.
28:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure does. I hadn't really thought about it. So
28:54
Speaker 2: all of you out there in the you know, theater
28:56
Speaker 2: of the mine, you're going, hey, guys, you're talking about
28:58
Speaker 2: a picture. What are you doing? Well, as Wes said,
29:00
Speaker 2: you can see this picture yourself. We are an aggregator
29:04
Speaker 2: kind of podcast. We like to tell you where we
29:06
Speaker 2: find these things. West has already given the reference Sky
29:10
Speaker 2: at Nightmagazine dot com. Now, if you know anything about
29:13
Speaker 2: Sky at Night Magazine, you're gonna know that that's one
29:16
Speaker 2: of the classic amateur astronomy type magazines of the past
29:21
Speaker 2: several decades based in the UK. So this is a
29:25
Speaker 2: UK publication. It is now owned by the BBC, but
29:29
Speaker 2: we don't hold that against them. So Sky at Nightmagazine
29:32
Speaker 2: dot com. So you can go there and visit that
29:36
Speaker 2: particular website, find the story about a ripple in the
29:39
Speaker 2: Milky Way and see the very image that Wes and
29:42
Speaker 2: I are talking about. Now, because we are in the
29:44
Speaker 2: theater of the mind, friends, I'm gonna try I'm gonna
29:47
Speaker 2: try to take us there. I'm gonna try to walk
29:49
Speaker 2: us through. Imagine an edge on shot of the Milky
29:52
Speaker 2: Way galaxy, which you yourself can never take because you
29:56
Speaker 2: live inside the Milky Way galaxy, so you would have
29:59
Speaker 2: to fly outside the Milky Way galaxy. So already there's
30:02
Speaker 2: some fantasy and whimsy taking place, right, Okay.
30:07
Speaker 3: Has a lot of whimsy in this.
30:10
Speaker 2: I take the galaxy, and the galaxy itself has shaped
30:13
Speaker 2: a bit like a frisbee with a softball stuck in
30:15
Speaker 2: the middle of it. All right, So that now I'm
30:17
Speaker 2: taking that frisbee with a softball stuck in the middle
30:19
Speaker 2: of it, and I'm turning it edge on. So now
30:22
Speaker 2: imagine an edge on frisbee with a softball stuck right
30:25
Speaker 2: in the center. That softball is the galactic bulge. The
30:28
Speaker 2: frisbee part is the galactic disc. I'm looking at that
30:31
Speaker 2: configuration edge on.
30:32
Speaker 3: Are you with me?
30:33
Speaker 2: Friends? Are you with me? Are you visualizing? Okay, now
30:36
Speaker 2: here comes the fun part. Imagine a standing wave on
30:41
Speaker 2: a string. It's almost like one of those little sciencey
30:43
Speaker 2: diagrams of somebody plucking a guitar string, where you see
30:47
Speaker 2: that the wave configuration across that string has certain parts
30:51
Speaker 2: that are pointing up, certain parts that are pointing down.
30:55
Speaker 2: We call those nodes and anti nodes. The nodes of
30:58
Speaker 2: the stationary points. The antiinodes are the big either pointy
31:02
Speaker 2: upy or pointing down any things, troughs and peaks, crests
31:07
Speaker 2: of the wave, peaks of the waves, valleys of the
31:09
Speaker 2: wave anyway, all of that demonstrated with arrows across the
31:13
Speaker 2: disk and bulge configuration of the Milky Way galaxy, and
31:16
Speaker 2: then you put the red and blue colors of the
31:19
Speaker 2: Doppler shifts taking place that the astronomers measure. Now, if
31:22
Speaker 2: you followed me all the way through that, first of all,
31:26
Speaker 2: good on you. Yeah, I mean seriously, I can't imagine
31:30
Speaker 2: you like you're still listening to the podcast at all.
31:32
Speaker 2: But if you're to ear, okay, we're excited. You mean
31:35
Speaker 2: you are our kind of geek. Now we know for sure, yeah,
31:39
Speaker 2: you know you're the kind of person that we would
31:40
Speaker 2: like to hang out with. After having gone through that description,
31:43
Speaker 2: now imagine no motion in the middle of the galaxy
31:47
Speaker 2: where that softball, that galactic bulge, that central bulges is
31:51
Speaker 2: right there, because there is none. These standing waves that
31:55
Speaker 2: are projected across the plane of the Milky Way Galaxy
31:59
Speaker 2: like I just described, are emanating from the core, moving
32:02
Speaker 2: toward the outer edges of the galaxy and therefore produce
32:06
Speaker 2: effects that are similar to what I would describe as
32:09
Speaker 2: a standing wave, and with the positive amplitudes the negative
32:14
Speaker 2: amplitudes the stationary points which are called nodes, and that
32:18
Speaker 2: would make one heck of an album cover or a
32:21
Speaker 2: T shirt for some geek like myself. That's what's taking
32:25
Speaker 2: place in the actual Milky Way. Friends. How do we know?
32:29
Speaker 2: Because the European Space Agency has a telescope called Gaya,
32:34
Speaker 2: and Guya is really good at looking at giant numbers
32:39
Speaker 2: of samples of stars. They've been measuring about two billion
32:42
Speaker 2: stars for over a decade, about the last twelve years,
32:46
Speaker 2: and they've been watching the motion of those stars as
32:49
Speaker 2: those stars move up and down in the plane of
32:52
Speaker 2: the Milky Way, and they found out those motions are
32:57
Speaker 2: not random, actually follow the pattern that I've just been describing,
33:04
Speaker 2: and it's if a standing wave is actually moving through
33:08
Speaker 2: the plane of the Milky Way galaxy in an orientation
33:13
Speaker 2: tangential to the plane itself. Tangential means uppy downy, not
33:17
Speaker 2: side to side, so in an upy downy kind of
33:20
Speaker 2: configuration rather than a sidey side configuration, and that's weird
33:25
Speaker 2: because waves propagate through materials because materials have this property
33:30
Speaker 2: called elasticity, which means materials that they kind of hold
33:35
Speaker 2: together and they stretch, but then they want to they
33:39
Speaker 2: want to resume their original shape so they can track
33:41
Speaker 2: rather rapidly. And it's those kinds of things, like a
33:44
Speaker 2: guitar string, which is very elastic, that you can usually
33:48
Speaker 2: send standing waves through. Why the plane of the Milky
33:53
Speaker 2: Way would host a standing a set of a pattern
33:56
Speaker 2: of standing waves when it should really not be elastic,
34:01
Speaker 2: and what would cause a violent enough event to pluck
34:05
Speaker 2: the entire Milky Way galaxy like a gigantic guitar string
34:10
Speaker 2: is a bit of a mystery. Friends, We don't really
34:14
Speaker 2: know what's going on, but we know now that this
34:16
Speaker 2: pattern actually does exist in the vertical motions of the
34:20
Speaker 2: stars and the plane of the Milky Way. Astronomers pulled
34:23
Speaker 2: out a quick off the cuff, you know, explanation, as
34:27
Speaker 2: you know, as we do, and what they said as well,
34:29
Speaker 2: you know, maybe this is an interaction with a dwarf galaxy,
34:33
Speaker 2: a past collision between a much smaller galaxy and the
34:37
Speaker 2: Milky Way itself that caused this global tidal effect. Across
34:41
Speaker 2: the entire one hundred thousand light year diameter of the
34:46
Speaker 2: Milky Way Galaxy. The answer to that remains to be
34:51
Speaker 2: seeing friends, because we just don't know, but we do
34:54
Speaker 2: know the behavior exists. And now astronomers have yet another mystery,
35:00
Speaker 2: another very tantalizing set of physical parameters to go out
35:03
Speaker 2: and chase and try to explain. And this is what
35:06
Speaker 2: we do. Friends. And by the way, if you're out
35:08
Speaker 2: there and you just love the story and you think, gosh,
35:12
Speaker 2: I miss my calling, I really wish I could be
35:14
Speaker 2: an astronomer and work with a Guya spacecraft and chase
35:17
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35:20
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35:27
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35:30
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35:33
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35:37
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35:40
Speaker 2: on to really fantastic careers in these space operations or
35:44
Speaker 2: space research communities, you know, maybe even chasing standing waves
35:50
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35:52
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36:31
Speaker 4: Friends, speaking of Columbus State University, as we're wind down
36:36
Speaker 4: the show, I just quickly want to mention I spent
36:39
Speaker 4: Thursday and Friday last week announcing names at graduation ceremonies.
36:46
Speaker 4: The hooting ceremonies on Thursday night, and then the graduation
36:49
Speaker 4: ceremonies three ceremonies on Friday.
36:52
Speaker 2: It's something I I will just tell you quickly that
36:54
Speaker 2: I was at ninety minutes of that ceremony with you,
36:57
Speaker 2: and you did a fantastic job, by the.
36:58
Speaker 4: Way, thank you, thank you well. And I'm mentioning it.
37:01
Speaker 4: But first of all, it's been like ten years. I
37:03
Speaker 4: think I started doing this in twenty seventeen, so we're
37:06
Speaker 4: wrapping up like ten years.
37:07
Speaker 3: Of this, and.
37:10
Speaker 4: You know, I enjoyed doing it. I enjoy being a
37:12
Speaker 4: part of it. I think it's really cool. This is
37:14
Speaker 4: the school that I attended. I got my bachelor's degreeing
37:18
Speaker 4: communications from Columbus State, so this is my school, this
37:21
Speaker 4: is where I went to school. And being able to
37:24
Speaker 4: come back and do it, it's a strange talent to
37:25
Speaker 4: learn that you have, like kind of later in life
37:28
Speaker 4: to just go I have a knack for these names
37:31
Speaker 4: or I don't know if it's the names, if it's
37:33
Speaker 4: the little shortcuts that I come up with on pronouncing them,
37:36
Speaker 4: it's the memory of remembering them. All those things come
37:38
Speaker 4: into play. I just enjoyed doing it. I enjoy trying
37:43
Speaker 4: to be a bit of a perfectionist about it. I
37:46
Speaker 4: know that I miss some I had a couple of
37:48
Speaker 4: ceremonies in the last like I had at least one
37:51
Speaker 4: where I had staff saying you got them all right,
37:55
Speaker 4: just from knowing the students involved.
37:58
Speaker 3: I don't believe that.
37:59
Speaker 4: I think I probably statistically would I had to have
38:01
Speaker 4: missed at least one. But they say I got them,
38:02
Speaker 4: so I'll take it. But I mentioned that because there
38:06
Speaker 4: have been some commencement speeches around the country where people
38:09
Speaker 4: have brought up AI students have been booing them. There
38:12
Speaker 4: have been a few universities I think Columbia is one
38:17
Speaker 4: of them that just said, do not have AI read
38:20
Speaker 4: our names at graduation. We don't want that. We don't
38:22
Speaker 4: want any part of that. There have been a few
38:24
Speaker 4: schools that have tested it. It has been at best mediocre.
38:27
Speaker 4: At worst, it's been a nightmare. One school in particular
38:31
Speaker 4: that just happened, and I've had so many people send
38:33
Speaker 4: this to me, But Glendale Community College in Glendale, Arizona,
38:39
Speaker 4: they had the whole thing went down during the ceremony.
38:42
Speaker 4: They weren't able to announce the names. The students booed.
38:45
Speaker 4: There was like a big revolt. I have offered, and
38:47
Speaker 4: I will continue to offer my services. If they want
38:49
Speaker 4: to fly me to Arizona, I will happily give those
38:52
Speaker 4: students the do over that they deserve. It would be
38:54
Speaker 4: an honor to come and let them hear their names called,
38:57
Speaker 4: let their families hear their names called. I say all
39:00
Speaker 4: of this to say this because you being an employee
39:03
Speaker 4: of the university. I have many friends that are employees
39:06
Speaker 4: of the university, and I have acknowledged this to people
39:09
Speaker 4: that I think need to hear it. Thank you to
39:12
Speaker 4: Columbus State University for having an actual voice artist that
39:19
Speaker 4: is trained to speak publicly and is part of your
39:23
Speaker 4: university's history, someone who graduated there, and I just appreciate
39:28
Speaker 4: the fact that it's still a live human being that
39:30
Speaker 4: gets to do this for their students. It shows something
39:33
Speaker 4: of respect for the students involved. And it also is
39:36
Speaker 4: a nice acknowledgement to know that as a graduate of
39:39
Speaker 4: the school, to know that I'm able to come and
39:41
Speaker 4: do it each year. So I appreciate them having me
39:43
Speaker 4: do it and being a part of it, and it.
39:46
Speaker 3: Means a lot to me.
39:47
Speaker 4: And I tell the students before the ceremonies, I'm gonna
39:51
Speaker 4: promise you I'm going to mess a couple up. I'm
39:53
Speaker 4: gonna miss it. It's gonna hurt me as much or
39:56
Speaker 4: more than it's gonna hurt you. It's just the way
39:58
Speaker 4: that I'm wired. It's the way that I'm built, and
40:00
Speaker 4: it's part of why I want to get it right
40:02
Speaker 4: every time. But I do appreciate Columbus State for that
40:05
Speaker 4: very much, and I think it's I think it's important
40:09
Speaker 4: in any way that we are able to stand up
40:11
Speaker 4: to eventually Skynet coming in and the terminator is showing up.
40:15
Speaker 4: We have to do every little bit we can to
40:17
Speaker 4: at least delay it. And when you can have that
40:20
Speaker 4: human touch, it comes in. And I did the hooting ceremonies.
40:24
Speaker 4: I try to make that as fun as possible. I
40:27
Speaker 4: tell jokes, I do things during the ceremony. I got
40:29
Speaker 4: lots of compliments for that, and I appreciate that. And again,
40:33
Speaker 4: I like being able to be a part of it,
40:34
Speaker 4: and I appreciate them doing that.
40:36
Speaker 2: Wes, you know, get your ability to read the names,
40:40
Speaker 2: first of all, is remarkable because there are a lot
40:43
Speaker 2: of complicated names. And in all seriousness, when I am
40:46
Speaker 2: sitting out there among the faculty watching the process and
40:50
Speaker 2: I see a name pop up on the screen, I
40:52
Speaker 2: just think, because I'm friends with Wes, I just think,
40:56
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, how's he going to handle this one,
40:59
Speaker 2: and you read it as if you're a member of
41:00
Speaker 2: the family, not my family, their family and so so,
41:06
Speaker 2: because my family would be terrible. So no, you're you
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Speaker 2: read it like like it's just you're fluent in whatever
41:13
Speaker 2: cultural dialect that was. That just appeal on the screen,
41:16
Speaker 2: and I think, gosh, that's really amazing. I wonder how
41:21
Speaker 2: he does that. And I know you have your tricks,
41:22
Speaker 2: and we've talked some about some of the behind the
41:24
Speaker 2: scenes inside baseball on that, but here's the thing. It
41:28
Speaker 2: adds a flavor and personality which you're just not going
41:32
Speaker 2: to get with AI. And I think listeners, if you're
41:34
Speaker 2: still with us even now, I would think that you
41:37
Speaker 2: are the kind of discerning ears that would really appreciate
41:40
Speaker 2: the fact that this podcast has produced AI free. This
41:44
Speaker 2: should come us no surprise, like no surprise to anybody
41:47
Speaker 2: right now. But this this is being produced without AI enhancement.
41:53
Speaker 2: And you know, we're actual human beings, like speaking to
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Speaker 2: you right now.
41:57
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you this. The host company that I
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Speaker 4: use for uploading it asks each time it was AI
42:04
Speaker 4: involved in producing this. And I think there's eventually going
42:06
Speaker 4: to be legal reasons for that. And you're exactly right.
42:09
Speaker 4: We've never used it the extent of anything to do
42:14
Speaker 4: with AI having anything to do with this might have
42:17
Speaker 4: been to fact check something like very quickly, but that's it.
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Speaker 4: I mean, over the course of the show. I did
42:22
Speaker 4: not use it to fact check the size of the
42:25
Speaker 4: flag on the VAB, but that might have been a
42:28
Speaker 4: scenario where maybe I needed to fact check something very quickly.
42:31
Speaker 3: But no, we don't.
42:32
Speaker 4: And I just think it says something when a school
42:35
Speaker 4: and I just won't want to point I don't want
42:37
Speaker 4: to pick on them too much.
42:38
Speaker 3: They've had a bad week.
42:39
Speaker 4: But you know, Glendale Community College has a communications program.
42:44
Speaker 4: Don't have one single graduate that could come back and
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Speaker 4: read the names and send a message to your graduates,
42:51
Speaker 4: the people that go to your school. We're going to
42:54
Speaker 4: hire someone who went to school here to do this
42:57
Speaker 4: because we are about careers and opportunities and things moving forward.
43:02
Speaker 4: So again, that's why it means a lot to me
43:04
Speaker 4: that the school ever asked me to do it in
43:06
Speaker 4: the first place. And I've talked to the president of
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Speaker 4: the university, doctor Rayfield, who told me I'm one of
43:11
Speaker 4: the people who said let's get Wes to do it.
43:14
Speaker 4: You know, ten years ago. So again, you know, ten
43:18
Speaker 4: years ago AI wasn't there, But the fact that they
43:20
Speaker 4: continue to have me do it and a I'm not
43:22
Speaker 4: even aware of AI ever coming up in conversation. I
43:25
Speaker 4: hope it doesn't, and I hope as many schools as
43:27
Speaker 4: possible can can fight that trend. But I specifically really
43:31
Speaker 4: appreciate Columbus State for doing that, And I think it
43:35
Speaker 4: says a lot when you're trying to train people for
43:37
Speaker 4: the next stage and careers. If you're going to hire
43:40
Speaker 4: somebody in a house that went to your school to
43:42
Speaker 4: do something like this, it means a lot.
43:43
Speaker 2: So that's our friends from Glendale that are out there listening.
43:47
Speaker 2: Please take the advice of this Georgia Association Broadcast Award
43:51
Speaker 2: winning journalist, commentator, radio host. Just listen, all right, So
43:59
Speaker 2: they're a humorous two I like that. Why not? There's
44:03
Speaker 2: a key. I mean, I laugh at your jokes.
44:05
Speaker 4: So that's part of the you know, the the eight
44:07
Speaker 4: uh who's keeping track, but you know eight or so
44:09
Speaker 4: awards of won from the gabbys.
44:11
Speaker 3: But it's all part of it.
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Speaker 4: Anyway, Thanks for listening to my ANTIAI thing. And uh, again,
44:18
Speaker 4: I appreciate Columbus State for that, Sean and I thank
44:20
Speaker 4: you for listening and continuing to listen through the AI
44:23
Speaker 4: TI raid, and we will do this again next week.
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