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The Skinny Confidential's Lauryn & Michael Bosstick · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: What's up, gorgeous. It's la La Kent with Ryan and
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sitting.
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  Speaker 2: At Dear Media Studios with the Skinny Confidential. We have
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  Speaker 2: Lauren and Michael Vostik subabes.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just pumped at you guys invited me on and
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  Speaker 3: not just Lauren. I was like, I don't know, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: she's the draw, and I was like, you know, he no.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, this is all about interrogating you.
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  Speaker 3: We just did our podcast and it's a huge home run.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone's got to go. Listen. You guys killed it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: I will say I'm a little intimidated. I've only been
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  Speaker 2: intimidated by one other guest that we've had, and it
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  Speaker 2: was Catherine Power. But I'm like equally as intimidated right now.
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  Speaker 2: Why because you're just like you guys are like the
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  Speaker 2: king and Queen of like podcast ship.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I don't know about you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, you're killing it. You guys have you guys have
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  Speaker 1: your thing going on. You guys are good.
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  Speaker 3: We've just been doing it a little longer. But I
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  Speaker 3: don't but you know, we have our moments, just not
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  Speaker 3: always a home run.
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  Speaker 2: Well, by the way, I love having you on Michael,
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  Speaker 2: because it's always great. Like Randall always says like he
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  Speaker 2: has like three fans, But I don't think that's true.
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  Speaker 1: I think I think it's the same for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a huge people.
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  Speaker 2: I think people are fans of yours like you you
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  Speaker 2: think like, oh, people are only drawn to Lauren. I know, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you did the same You did the same thing, Lauren,
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  Speaker 2: you were.
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  Speaker 1: All over Randall. I had no one on my team
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning of your podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, you know they come to the show just for me.
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  Speaker 4: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: So my first riveting question is, Lauren, how the fuck
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  Speaker 2: do you get those eyebrows?
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  Speaker 1: Your eyebrows look amazing. I've been staring at them, but.
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  Speaker 5: You feather them perfectly, and you come on, here's the trick.
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  Speaker 5: And I've never shared this on any of my platforms.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know why got to be glued? Okay, you
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  Speaker 5: know men's got to be glued.
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  Speaker 1: The yellow bottle, Yeah, the old hair hairy?
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  Speaker 5: You fully can you put it in your brows and
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  Speaker 5: you brush them straight up? And that is honest going
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  Speaker 5: to change everyone's life.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, Michael, we.
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  Speaker 3: Just had someone come on the show and for forty
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  Speaker 3: minutes about how.
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  Speaker 1: They pull your face down. You got to brush them
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  Speaker 1: up every day.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, my face is falling off. It's going to be
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  Speaker 3: gone in a year o week.
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  Speaker 1: Got to be glue.
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  Speaker 5: That's honestly the best. That's one of my best beauty
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  Speaker 5: tips I could give everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Got to be glued.
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  Speaker 2: I love that you say that because I have spent
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  Speaker 2: so much money on like these waxes and just everything
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  Speaker 2: to try and get my eyebrows to look like yours.
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  Speaker 1: So got to be glued. Love it. Your eyebrows look
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  Speaker 1: really good. Just just I'm just telling you they look.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody's eyebrows look great. Now I'm like bugging the funk out.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to the bathroom and check my show.
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  Speaker 1: Eyebrows are important.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, you guys are like, this is intense, Okay, So
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  Speaker 4: I want to I want to hear the history because
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  Speaker 4: I I really need to be educated just on how
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  Speaker 4: you guys met, how the relationship started, because I love
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  Speaker 4: the romance.
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  Speaker 1: You want the breakdown, I want the.
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  Speaker 4: Whole ship you met. You guys said you met when
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  Speaker 4: you were twelve.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Michael was four foot one.
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  Speaker 3: And was twelve.
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  Speaker 1: I was five.
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  Speaker 3: It was in sixth grade.
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  Speaker 1: I was five to seven.
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  Speaker 5: I was the same high I am now, and I
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  Speaker 5: saw him and I thought he was so cute.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I thought. I saw her and she
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  Speaker 3: was the only fully developed woman on the playground.
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  Speaker 5: Because I was I had like I look like I look.
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  Speaker 5: I thought she was the I relate to schuberty early.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that was like your peak, that was
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  Speaker 2: you didn't get bigger boobs.
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  Speaker 1: Well I did.
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  Speaker 5: I got fake ones, but like I mean both, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I went and got fake ones later.
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  Speaker 1: But when I was little, they were pretty big. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Michael was looking at you.
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  Speaker 3: They were the only ones.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to give her a baby, the real ones
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  Speaker 1: of the class, I mean, who knows.
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  Speaker 3: I looked over I was like, oh, the new subs here.
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  Speaker 3: She's pretty fucking hot.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And uh then I realized she was because at the
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  Speaker 3: time I was just doing little kids, so I was
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  Speaker 3: like playing five tether ball handball. And then all a sudden
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  Speaker 3: I looked over him. I became a man that day.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I grew up right away.
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  Speaker 1: We started dating in sixth grade. What city, San Diego?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, got it, and we we progressed very fast. Like
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  Speaker 5: my dad found us in the closet without t shirts
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  Speaker 5: on at twelve years old. Wow, wow, like crazy, crazy chemistry,
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  Speaker 5: and then like gave him a blowjob like at thirteen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's why we were becoming alms. When my daughter
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  Speaker 3: turns thirteen, we're moving to amage country.
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  Speaker 4: You're just you're locking it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would pay back well at twelve.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So we had this like very intense connection at
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  Speaker 5: a very young age, and then at about fifteen years old.
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  Speaker 1: We broke up.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, three years together. You're in high.
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  Speaker 1: School now, so you break up at fifteen? We break
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  Speaker 1: up at fifteen, I go for older guys. He does, Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's a typical story, right, kids.
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  Speaker 3: I went to the handball court and cried myself. So
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  Speaker 3: you're in high school together a week as soon as
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  Speaker 3: we started going into high school, right, it's a it's
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  Speaker 3: the same story that every guy goes to the girl,
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  Speaker 3: the young girl goes off with the older guys, leaves
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  Speaker 3: the young guy in the dust. And yeah, and so then,
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  Speaker 3: like we were not together for a long time after.
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  Speaker 4: Did you stay in touch.
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  Speaker 1: All the way we hooked up? Yeah, like you come home,
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  Speaker 1: you were comfortable with each other.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes we would hook up and then I just leave,
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  Speaker 5: like always so it made him, like I feel like
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  Speaker 5: he just couldn't get enough because I would like, come
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  Speaker 5: and leave, and.
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  Speaker 4: Come and go and then leave.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I sprinkle, Yeah, this sounds really like corny and
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  Speaker 3: I hate it to sound that way. But I had
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  Speaker 3: a lot of other relationships after Lauren, but.
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  Speaker 4: I I thought, you stayed home the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't. I never feel so proud of those
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  Speaker 3: relationships because I never was really vested in them, right.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, like I'm dating you or you're
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  Speaker 3: my girlfriend or like.
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  Speaker 4: But it wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: No, I didn't have that connection that I had with Laurence.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really take him very seriously, and I don't
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  Speaker 3: like tell the people, so yeah, like you know, if
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't work out, it's find it. But I think
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  Speaker 3: sometimes that made it worse, you know, because he tells
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  Speaker 3: someone that and they don't believe it, but I really
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  Speaker 3: meant it. I was like, because I just didn't feel
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  Speaker 3: that way with other women that I felt with Laurene,
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  Speaker 3: and so like I had always chaser in pursuit her
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  Speaker 3: because I just knew from an early age like this
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  Speaker 3: was the woman that I loved.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 3: That's like people say that, but it really was like
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  Speaker 3: a love at first sight connection type thing for me.
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  Speaker 1: I love that we went away to college. He went
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  Speaker 1: to you Bay.
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  Speaker 2: God knows what how best time, ever is what the
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  Speaker 2: best time of your alife?
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  Speaker 3: It was good that we were on a little break.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, all right. So now so now in college,
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  Speaker 4: you're not together, okay, together, stay in touch? So still
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  Speaker 4: hook up on.
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  Speaker 1: Stay in touch? He calls me. I don't pick up.
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  Speaker 3: Not really, that's what you know, not really in touch in college,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, like you come home for the holidays
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  Speaker 3: to see your family, like I would see her sometimes
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  Speaker 3: out at a bar. You didn't hook up, not really, no,
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  Speaker 3: not really.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. So now four years go by, college is over.
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  Speaker 3: High school college over completely. We weren't together.
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  Speaker 5: My friend invites me to Vegas, and she makes a
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  Speaker 5: fit that I go. So I go, and the next
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  Speaker 5: thing I know, I wake up in a Tiara with
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  Speaker 5: a bottle of Rose Champagne next to Michael Boston stop naked.
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  Speaker 3: She's fast forwarding through something.
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  Speaker 4: What happened in Vegas?
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  Speaker 1: What didn't happen?
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  Speaker 3: A lot happened in Vegas. I convinced her to go
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  Speaker 3: on that Vegas trip. We had kind of like seen
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  Speaker 3: each other briefly.
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  Speaker 1: That's the similarities between you and Oh.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: So I knew that her. We had a mutual friend
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  Speaker 3: that was having a birthday party. And at this point,
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  Speaker 3: like I was like, okay, I got kind of an
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  Speaker 3: opening again. She's on the rocks a little bit with
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  Speaker 3: with her the guy she was dating. I was just
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  Speaker 3: doing whatever I was doing, right you, and I just
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  Speaker 3: went into full pursuit mode. Like I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, you come on this trip. We're doing this
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  Speaker 3: like and I like, you know, wine, dine, like whole thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And at that time, I was working and I had
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  Speaker 3: a couple of bucks in my pocket, and I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: like I can like maybe stand out head and shoulders
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  Speaker 3: above like with this surfer dude she was dating. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I can like maybe like get in
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  Speaker 3: there and like short, nice dinner and like be a
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  Speaker 3: gentleman and like do all these things. And then after that,
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  Speaker 3: like we've been together ever since.
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  Speaker 5: He I remember him, and I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 5: told this story publicly. I remember talking to him at
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  Speaker 5: dinner and I was like.
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  Speaker 4: What are you reading.
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  Speaker 1: He's a huge reader, which is a huge turn on
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  Speaker 1: for me.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's cool.
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  Speaker 1: And he said I'm reading.
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  Speaker 5: A book on salt, and I was like what when
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  Speaker 5: He's like, salt, I'm reading about the history of salt,
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  Speaker 5: and he starts telling me all the history of salt,
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  Speaker 5: how salt used to be used as a current, see
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  Speaker 5: and like it used to be his money.
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  Speaker 3: And at one point so it was worth more than gold.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, don't don't get him started.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, what's the book called? If you like the term,
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  Speaker 3: like if you ever heard the term like worth his
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  Speaker 3: weight and salt, yes, where it comes from because it
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  Speaker 3: was a currency like this.
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  Speaker 4: I just want to understand what would have hited you
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  Speaker 4: to read the book one.
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  Speaker 3: I read a lot of I just sometimes I'll be
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  Speaker 3: looking at stuff and something to catch my eye and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like why, I'm really I've gotten in trouble my
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  Speaker 3: whole life because I asked why eighty times in school
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  Speaker 3: I was terrible student, not because I couldn't learn, because
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  Speaker 3: it was like why why?
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 3: You have you have to give me the explanation, explain why? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and even like everything that's going on in the world,
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  Speaker 3: like I get in trouble because I'm outspokeau I'm always
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  Speaker 3: like why why, Like you tell me you want me
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  Speaker 3: to do something, why and if you explain it, I'm
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  Speaker 3: like why, God, so I have to It's like the same,
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  Speaker 3: It's just how it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like answer will yeah, until he comes to okay, I
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  Speaker 2: know why I should or shouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 5: Or questioning the status quo constantly.
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  Speaker 1: I love that and that was a turn on.
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  Speaker 5: And I ever been with a guy that had like
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  Speaker 5: this depth of intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: He was smart. I was attracted to his brain. His
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  Speaker 1: penis is great too, but I was really acted, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: There was so much emotional intellectual chemistry.
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  Speaker 4: Right, so you had a real deep connection. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 4: so you hit it again. It's like going back to
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  Speaker 4: the well.
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  Speaker 2: They wake up the next tells you about salt. You're like,
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  Speaker 2: I guess I'll let you hit it again.
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  Speaker 3: I hit it.
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  Speaker 5: I realized that I had been with people that there
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  Speaker 5: wasn't an intellectual which is why I It's like when
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  Speaker 5: you came on the show. I told Michael, I was like,
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  Speaker 5: I completely get it, but I also completely get it
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  Speaker 5: for multiple reasons, like I think you're adorable.
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  Speaker 1: I think sorry, I think he's the cutest on the show. No,
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  Speaker 1: he's very I'm like, very obnited to everything happened.
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  Speaker 5: No, he's adorable, yes, so, but I think that a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people are missing that intellectual chemistry and listen,
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  Speaker 5: everything goes like right, it all goes the looks, all
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  Speaker 5: the shit you.
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  Speaker 1: Have to have.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, I think people really fuck that up.
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  Speaker 4: It's like you spend so much time looking for the
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  Speaker 4: physical and yes, you got to have that. Obviously, don't
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  Speaker 4: have that. You know, that's that doesn't get you together.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm saying, after like you said, two years, three years,
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  Speaker 4: four years, five years, that shit starts to become not
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  Speaker 4: as fresh as the new car you bought. Now I've
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  Speaker 4: heard and I her and I we have this deep
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  Speaker 4: kind of connection that like we just could talk for
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  Speaker 4: four hours to each other about everything. And I think
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  Speaker 4: you know, when you have that, it doesn't matter about
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  Speaker 4: the right.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I joke about like Lauren being fully developed
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  Speaker 3: and this and that, and I think if you saw
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  Speaker 3: her pretty Instagram page you would come to a certain conclusion.
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  Speaker 3: But I remember being a kid and getting upset with
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  Speaker 3: her and being like, why do you play this character up?
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  Speaker 3: Like why do you act like I'm like, you're so smart,
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  Speaker 3: you're so like, you're sharp, you're intelligent, all these things like,
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  Speaker 3: and it used to frustrat me, like why do you
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  Speaker 3: put on this front like you're this other like character? Right,
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  Speaker 3: like one thing about Laura and Isaac. But sometimes we
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  Speaker 3: could sit still to this day and like talk for
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  Speaker 3: hours and hours and hours, like all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: the sex, you have to have chemistry and all that,
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  Speaker 3: and we obviously have a child, so it's.
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  Speaker 4: Like, so you have, But it's.
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  Speaker 3: The other stuff that I think creates longevity.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: I fully agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: I think people put so much emphasis on like the
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  Speaker 2: sexual chemistry and if I'm attracted to his looks in
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  Speaker 2: his body, and like you said, Lauren, that stuff fades.
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  Speaker 2: And at some point, you know, you see this beautiful
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  Speaker 2: woman in front of you, but when you see her
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  Speaker 2: every single day, you still know she's beautiful. But guess
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  Speaker 2: what when you see another pretty girl, like, she's going
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  Speaker 2: to catch your eye more so than the person you're
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  Speaker 2: with because it's new, shiny, new object.
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  Speaker 1: What doesn't fade is.
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  Speaker 2: When someone makes you laugh, When you can pick each
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  Speaker 2: other's brains, why you can ask why a hundred times
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  Speaker 2: and educate each other. I mean, Randal and I disagree
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  Speaker 2: on so many things, but I love having those conversations
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  Speaker 2: with him. And it sounds like you guys dude's are.
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  Speaker 3: Constantly like challenging each other. Frank Sinatra said, if you
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  Speaker 3: go on a date with a pretty women, shouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: a staring contest, or it shouldn't just be a daring contest.
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  Speaker 1: And oh, I love that.
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  Speaker 4: I also had this theory back in the day. It's
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  Speaker 4: a little off, but I was like, think about sex
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  Speaker 4: in your relationship. That's what I used to say. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: so let's pretend you're a six day a week sex person. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't exist in the real world of relationships, but
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  Speaker 4: let's just pretend. Because people will tell me, oh, I
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  Speaker 4: have it six days a week, even thirty years into
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  Speaker 4: the they're liars, but it's okay, let's play that game.
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  Speaker 4: So let's give it ten minutes of the actual act
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  Speaker 4: six days a week. That's an hour a week. That's
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  Speaker 4: four hours a month, and that's forty fifty two hours
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  Speaker 4: a year. So you're going to gamble an entire future
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  Speaker 4: in lifetime on fifty two hours a year. It does
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense. I love that and if people
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  Speaker 4: just if people realize it's all. But I'm saying if
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  Speaker 4: you took fifty two hours a year or even doubled
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  Speaker 4: it to one hundred hours a year compared to three
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  Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five days and how many hours are
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: in that, you would never overemphasize that you'd want that
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  Speaker 4: connection in that hot sexual but after that you'd be like, God,
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  Speaker 4: I really better like this person. I better really love
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  Speaker 4: fucking with this person on the daily. And I think
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  Speaker 4: that's that's what has kept us together.
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  Speaker 5: I completely agree with you, and I think what I'm
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  Speaker 5: seeing a lot in this day and age is people
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  Speaker 5: settling because they feel like they have to check a
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  Speaker 5: box for society. And what my biggest advice is is
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  Speaker 5: I would be dead single if it wasn't for my
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  Speaker 5: glory now, I'd be single.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: I'd be fine with it. I think I'd be single.
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: But it comes down to like, not settling, but the
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: best in.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: Every area of your life. Either you wouldn't be single, though,
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: would you be with.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: My process had gone up since I started getting by the.
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: Way, You're right.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: At, Lauren Bosticks at I will use.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: Whatever tools in my toolbox to get what I do
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: two of us.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: By the way, By the way, you and I if
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: we were single, we'd be going out together.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Both of you.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: This is my ex girlfriend wife.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: I carry her around here. She is such a post.
• 14:01
  Speaker 5: She says that it's important, though, not to settle for
• 14:03
  Speaker 5: anything but the best in every area of your life,
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: and that includes your relationship. If you're settling for something
• 14:08
  Speaker 5: because you think it's checking the box it's supposed to
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: be checking.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: You're gonna do that in other areas.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, when was the Skinny Confidential born? How
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: did it come to be? And like I know you
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: said you were like bored you decided to start it
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: in twenty eleven.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Totally bored. Blogging was not cool.
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: There was nothing cool about it, Like it was actually
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: a dorky people were just showing their outfits. And I
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: was a bartender at a very sort of exclusive bar
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: similar similar vibes to sir, maybe maybe a little like
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: it was all the wealthy men in Rancho Santa Fe,
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: and so I would work there at night and then
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: in the morning I would wake up, go to school
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: full time and teach pure bar and plots. And there
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: I was incredibly unfulfilled and I didn't realize what it was,
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: and it was because looking back, I was an entrepreneur
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: and I wasn't tapping into that. So at about twenty
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: one years old, I'm like, I'm going to start a blog,
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: and what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna build a
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: brand off this blog and eventually launch a book, a
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: product line, build a community. Like I set it up
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: as a brand when I launched the blog. A lot
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: of people I think launched blogs to like show their
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: outfit or their nail color. I launched a blog being like,
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: how can I give so much value back to these
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: people so that they can take little tidbits and apply
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: it to their own life.
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: So I told I tell this story a lot, but
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: I think it's important for anyone who's listening to just
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: always go on your own trajectory. I told this guy
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: at the bar, he.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Was drinking a rusty nail. He's like, what are you
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: gonna do with your life? I said, I'm going to
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: be a blogger, and again twenty eleven.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: Right, weird, not not popular, totally weird.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: And he looks at me and he starts laughing like
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: a bellow laugh. He's like, how are you gonna make money,
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: and well he just didn't realize like the whole I
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: guess he didn't realize that he didn't understand the internet.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: He ended up being like the CEO of Airbag.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: No no, no, he created he invented the air holy shit.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: And so and telling the story is like, you can
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: have this idea and you can tell the most successful
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: person and they'll shit on it, but you have to
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: keep doing what feels right to your intuition and really
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: committing to that vision. So this was like thirteen years ago,
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: started this wow, and Michael didn't actually become involved in
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: anything until the seventh year. And this is something that
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: I've been doing seven days a week.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: When did it turn into a podcast?
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Sixteen twenty sixteen, we were drunken Cabo and he goes,
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: why don't we talk on a mic?
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Well, no, what happened was at the time, obviously like
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: the world of blogging and influencers blew up, right, like
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: these terms back in the day, like you like now
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: they call them influencers, but back then they were bloggers, right,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: And this world blew up, and people realize like, oh,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: there's some real money flowing into the space. Brands are
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: obviously spending like starting to get involved. There's real like
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: creators that are going on these social channels and building
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: little like my co channels and and monetizable brands.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: And I was at the time, I was running behind
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: like I was running retail businesses and I actually was
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: heading up a company called jetbed I was CEO, but
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: make beds for corporate and private aircraft. I'm given super
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: like Wow, just to show you how behind the scenes
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: that was not a front Ye, they've laid in the
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: jet I bet you've probably before if you've laid in
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: those beds.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Of the Yeah, then go over the dining round table. Yeses,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: so we make those those are like twenty thirds like
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: a lot.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: It's it was a good business. Yeah, But but just
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: to say, like, so we were behind the scenes, like
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: not front facing at all, not had no plans on
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: doing anything on the internet, just like you know, behind
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: the scenes operator. And as her brand kept going, people
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: would say, well, who's this guy that's always in the background,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Like what's his probably something that.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Exactly say, Yeah, who's this guy? Why what is So.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: She's like, hey, can you start, like if you want
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: to go on? And I was like I'm not going
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: to be taking pictures and outfits in the streets or
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: doing the whole thing on the beach. Listen not to
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: but like, that's not my vibe.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: It wasn't your vibe.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: No, it's so she's like, well, can you write a
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: couple of pieces on the blog? And I was like, oh,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: once in a while, So I like wrote a couple
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: small piece you probably go find and like most book wrecks,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's not my vibe either. And I was
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: focused on operating, but clearly you can't get me to shut.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: The fuck up.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: So I was like, why don't I love that? We do?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: We like, these people have these questions, we want to
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: answer them. I don't want to write, I don't have
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: time a social channel. Let's start a podcast started as
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: a Q and A at the time when podcasting had
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: still been around but not nearly what it is now.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: And so we started that self producing in twenty sixteen,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: and like that's the that's when I got involved with
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: the brand. But it and obviously we called it the
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Skinny Confidential Hymn and Her because there was an established
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: brand that already exists. I was on like, hey, let's
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: go call it like the Michael Show, Like that made
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: no sense, right, And that's wheally happened.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: We were at a different network and we just saw
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: everything that they were doing wrong. And Michael's like, I'm
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: going to blow up this space. I'm going to completely
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: shake up this category and I'm gonna I'm going to
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: have people make real money and I'm going to pull
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: it through their social and I'm going to pull it
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: to stories and pull it to Instagram and pull it
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: to the blog because they're missing out on all these
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: all these other revenues, right, like, let's sell a huge partnership.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Wasn't just that, It was like and I don't want
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: to say people are doing it wrong. I just felt
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: that the model, the business model, the way you formed
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: the contracts, the way you sell, the way you market, like, oh,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: it just wasn't updated to a twenty twenty digital world, right,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: and like that's the world that form.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And along the way, while I was doing that, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: had an agency. I was helping brands build their products
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: and sell on lines. Like I understood the backund she
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: obviously like had the front end. So I was like,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: there's just maybe a more updated.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Way to monetize.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we And the other thing is like we
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: understood it because we had and shared the pain con
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: talking on a mic every week, and like we had
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: gone through the editing process, We've sold the show ourselves,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: we produced we and I was like, I maybe could
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: do this for other creators in a more productive way
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: than maybe some of the ways they were doing.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And he had no Hollywood background, nothing.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Wow, and you just figured it all out, just as you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I'm still trying to.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Why all the time.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: So if he would build something incredible because he knows
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: exactly why, I.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Think. I just came in and was like someone gave
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: me the if someone gave me the blueprint of like
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: this is how you create a podcast network. I kind
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: of just threw the blueprint out the windows and we
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: started and just restarted. And there's listen, there's some of
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: that blueprint that's spot on and absolutely incredible, and like
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I used elements of that, but then there's other things
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: like I could maybe do this a different way.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: How many years now has the company been in existence?
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I started it in the end of twenty seventeen, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: didn't start signing shows until twenty eighteen.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, so three solid years, but four years been formed.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And now do your media has like one hundred shows?
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah? We have?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Fuck?
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how can we get the call about something?
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Yea, why didn't they get the call?
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I actually have dmd lalla, probably to the point of
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: annoying her. Wait, really, you could go back.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I was like, she doesn't read her DM's Well.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I don't blame you.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: I don't again, but I was like, I saw you
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: on the show, and I'm like, oh my god, there's
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: so much to this girl. I want you on the podcast.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: And then I read your book and I was like,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: I have to get this girl on the podcast.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Oh that's so sweet.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I love that you even go back.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: She's a big fan.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Think we're a big fan.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've seen every episode of.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: This season. Yeah. By the way, I like that. That's
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: a real boss.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I can say that he watches Housewives, he watches it all.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Well. I think I love any woman who I think
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: people kind of sleep on.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, she's the blonde with the big boom.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Hello daddy, and it's like and here's my brand boom.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And it's like, holy shit, you just won this dick
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: measuring contest. Like beyond like I, I think you're inspiring.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I think what you've built is incredible. And I love
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: two people who who really kind of fuel each other's fire.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You know, when they're in a.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Relationship, you can tell truly love each other.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that so much. In marriage.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: There's two hills, and I say this, I say this
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: on our podcast. It's like they're pushing two different boulders
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: up two different hills. So they're both pushing boulders up,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: but it's two different hills. I think a true marriage
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: is you both pushing the same boulder up the same hill.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: And that requires a lot of long term strategy. What's
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: your vision for your life? You have to have these
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: conversations to make sure you're on the same page because
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: some people's vision is a ranch in New Mexico and
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: the other person's vision is a bel Air mansion. Like,
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: what's the ultimate vision? And how can we work backwards
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: to create those systems to get to the goal?
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Correct?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I think that's important in a marriage. Marriage is not easy, brutal. Yeah,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Relationships are a lot of work, and you're constantly changing
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and sometimes you're not changing together. So how do you
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: come back to you know the root of the relationship.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: It is a lot of work and it's a lot
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: of people.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: But I think marriage is like people are growing constantly.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Like we're all, you know, wanting to evolve. You got
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: to make sure as you're evolving that your partner's evolving
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: with you.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: And that's the same, right, No, I agree with you.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: So you have a beautiful baby girl. By the way,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I was telling Michael Lauren that I watched your guys'
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: stories when you were at Hotel de cat I do
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: not have fomo ever. Okay, I'm completely content in these
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: four walls called my.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Bedroom watching O G. Housewives all day every day.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I was having so much fomo and then it like
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: pushed me over the edge when you were with Meredith
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: and her husband from Real Housewives.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: Why don't we all do a six sum next year?
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Bring the kids with nanny Nanny.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: You guys don't be really fun to get.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in. We're next year, we're in.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Let's go and next.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Year, let's do it right dir Like at the end
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: of can so I could just pick up the last few.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Days you have to go with al Pacino, the Mottle,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: Tonio and John Travolta.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Then come and hang out with us there, but you do.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: We'll go to the am Far Charity at the end
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: of can together as a group, talk about salt, talk
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: about salt. We'll question everybody no no, but then everybody's gone.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Then everybody's gone, and then we'll have like a good
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: vacation because I like it. I like people aren't there.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I love to cap and I like it after can
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: because it's actually really quiet.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: We're fun to go on vacation with two because I
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: feel like we're self aware. Like you guys go out
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: to your thing, we'll go to our feet up like
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: it's no pressure.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: We're the same the type of friend that can wake.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Up and say what you're doing today, give me your
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: itinery someone.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Popping out of the bushes like it's bunch time.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: We take people on vacation and sometimes we take like
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: a group and go to cob or whatever. I'm like, listen,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: there's only one mandatory thing, and that's dinner want the
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: first night, and then I don't need to see any
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: of you for four nights. I don't give a fuck.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: That's how you go, you know, Let's just have a
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: fun kickoff, get wasted dinner and after that, I'm not interested.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: And we're the same way. We don't. We don't have
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: an Ever.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Sometimes you go on vacation with people, though, and they
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: want to do breakfast, lunch, dinner and snack and I'm like,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: I can't know, you know what I mean, I.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Never go back. I never go back.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I got to recharge my batteries.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: I feel like you're like me and where everyone thinks
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: you're an extrovert, but you're actually an intro I mean,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: recharge by yourself.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it. You got to recharge by yourself, you.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Know what I mean?
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, close the door was listening. Went on vacation with us.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Before, because we're your partners out honestly, don't worry because
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: if they did, we're never going on vacation with them again.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, no, but I'll tell you. We have a trip.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: We have a trip to Miami for her for a
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: birthday with all of our friends. And I just told them,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I said, guys, just so you know, there's no schedule.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: There's just a birthday dinner first night, and then we
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: don't need to see you for four days. Like it's
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: it's do who wants to vacation. Who wants to go
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: on vacation be told what to do?
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's like but you so I'm watching these
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: stories of you guys and can and I'm like, oh
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: my god, I have to be there, teleport me now.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But you guys said that it was kind of rough.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: It was rough because we thought we were over zealous.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: And thought we didn't need a nanny. And what I've
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: realized is it's not about having a nanny the whole day.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: It's just about wanting to go to lunch for two hours,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: or maybe I'd like to get laid, Like can I
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: have like fifteen minutes to myself without her story to
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: get me like, you know, big eyes in the dark,
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: like she's jet lagged that the jet lag partner one
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: talks about either with a baby, it was a lot.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, to contextualize and maybe make it somewhat more
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: like related, boys, we we went and we just thought
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: we don't need we can just do all that. She's
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: eighteen months old. We can go on the long flight,
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: we can go and change. It tells we can have
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: the same type of vacation we used to have together
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: before we had a baby. But we'll just add the baby,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: and like you just can't.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Right, just so it becomes me babysitting when he wants
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: to go to the gym, and him babysitting when I
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: want to sit and have a glass of road.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you miss the whole point of vacation
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: because you need to re charged with relationship. You need
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: to recharge.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's exactly what Michael said. You guys
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: are so on the age.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I was trying to get after it and then she's like,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: with the babies there, baby can't see it. I was
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: like trying to put the little blanket.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: These like big beautiful blue eyes, like you can clearly
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: tell she's looking directly at you.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: She looks like an African lemur in the dark, like
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: you know, like she's like staring. I'm like, can you
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: close your eyes on it? You get what I'm saying though,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: because you said like you're like okay, like and Lama
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: is more like she can just stare at the baby
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: all time. No.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: No, I'm like, bring the fucking nanny in because we're
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: going to dinner and we're getting at it and we're
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: gonna have a fucking great night. And whatever happens is
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: going to happen, and we want.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: To come home better.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I'm getting better, she was, And it was like, I'm
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: not handing off the baby to this person. Yeah, I
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: was like, now I have her on speed dial. She's
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: like constantly coming in five months. People told me you'll
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: be done with the night nurse by three months. No,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: fuck that. Last night, you guys, she woke me up
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: at one. She woke me up at two thirty four,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: forty five.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Six forty Moving to the other side of the house,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: she goes, you have to be in the office. Go
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: the fuck to the other side of the house and
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: go to sleep.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Does it get easier, like eighteen months? Is that easier?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Like what is it like? No? Oh no, no, it's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: twenty five.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I wish I could say yes, And eighteen months.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Is snarlier because let me let me give.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: You a visual.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: This is a visual because they can speak.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: You wake up, their eyes opened, they cry, they need Okay,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: you give them the thing they need. Then they want
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: to go on the ground and walk around. And then
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: this is the thing that you don't even wait till
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: you see this. They open your drawer, they take your
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: CBD pens, they take your knife, that you have in
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: the drawer, they take, they take like your matches. She's
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: lighting a fuck, the house is on fire.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Has weapons in her drawer.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Sick, she's like ready for a day.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: She played for forty five minutes with a piece of
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: my vitamin wrapper, like it's it's it's anything that's not
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: a toy.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: They want a lovely at least.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, that's the evolution.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: But she had a knife in her hand once. She
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: loves grabbing the knives at the dinner table. It's like
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: anything sticking your hand in my tequila soda.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: I mean it's she's a year, year and a half. Everything.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Here's what happened. We went on this trip and it
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: was easy. She would just sit in one place, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: it's like the moment we decided to go on a
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: nice vacation, she decided, I can move now, I can walk,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I can scream, I can have tantrums, I can grab everything.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: It was like literally on the way at the start
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: of the trip and we looked at each other, like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: what the hell is going on?
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: I read about tantrums that you're supposed to say. I
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: understand that this is bothering you, but we can't do
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: this because of this, and then you're supposed to go quiet,
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: like you're not supposed to entertain it. Okay, so that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: been my strategy. So at one point she was running
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: around the hotel do Cap butt naked Mike.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Screaming and I building.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you can deal with it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not entertaining main building or eating rock.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: What building. I come home and I'm just from the gym,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Like finally I went to the rex. You just hear
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the child screaming, and I was like, what is that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: It's like that sounds familiar. There's not my child. Somebody's
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: got to get fine, Like one of these asshole parents
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: got to get their kid under control.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: That's where I go to. That's why I go to.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I look over, my kid is butt naked, screaming, having
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: a tantrum. Lauren is just so lobby.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not doing this. I just not entertaining it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: And at that moment we were just like we like
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: we give you know.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: At some point you you're going to go insane and
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: you just have to let her like calm herself down.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: You I have a hard time with that.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: You entertained the tantrums.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I can't ocean had like a go last night.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: She was keeping I just had a hard time when
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: they're screaming and I want to, like, I want to
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: talk to them and say you could stop.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: There was no.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: There was no calming her down. She had to do
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: it on her own. It was like I was holding her.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Then I put her on the lube.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I walked around.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I'm bouncing her binky after binkie. Maybe she doesn't like
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: this nipple, maybe my own nipple, and like nothing was working.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: It was tough, and I'm seeing like hours pass and
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: finally I was like, Randa, you go sleep somewhere else.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I put my headphones in.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I laid her back in her little bed, and I
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, she cried herself to sleep.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: But it's it's like that's the hard part for me
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: because I'm like, I want to react that. She's like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: you gotta just let her sleep. It's like that's a
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: hard But let's go back to the nanny. Ny. Just
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: call her on the other side of the house. She
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: comes running over and before we kill each other, we
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: hand the baby off and then we can. But here's
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: the thing. If we were at home working from home,
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: you know, people then fine, it's a different thing. Like
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: you could get a two hour nap in the morning.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: At two hours, I have to go to an office
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: every day. She goes to the office every day. It's hard,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: you guys know, running businesses and.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Not beyond No, there's no nat like when the baby
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: goes down for a nap, like I'm at work, bro,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I it's want to catch it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing that people have to understand too. Back
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: in the day, kids were raised in communities with tons
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: of people around us, and now I don't.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Have family up here.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm working. I'm working and building my business. I
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: think it's impossible not to have have help agree and like,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: I also think I'm really transparent about it.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I had a night nurse, I had a nanny.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of influencers and celebrities that act like
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: they do it all themselves, right, but do have all
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: this shit that don't talk about it.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I know, well, because mom's shaming is real. You have
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: these little troll moms.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: That are like, you don't care about your kid, and
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: it's like, actually, I care a lot about my kid,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and I have this luxury that I'm going to be
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: extremely grateful for But if I don't get a certain
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: amount of sleep and I know that I can have
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a night nurse, Like I I am not going to
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: be a good mom the next day if I'm sleep deprived.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Well, at one point, when we first had our child,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: my mom's like, you know what, since we don't need
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: a family up there, you guys don't any help, Like,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: don't worry about a night nursing. I'll come up to
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: your house and I'll sleep up there with you guys
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: for three months ago. Oh no, you fucking want I like,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: you are not. I love you, mom, but I was like,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: you are not coming anywhere inside the house. You come
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: visit you you're here for a visit. It's a scheduled business.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: It's a visit.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: It's a yeah.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: And so you know, the mom shaming is reel.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: They started on me when I was postpartum about a
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: car seat seat.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Belt she had that she had the car seat, that's.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: The the car seat was. We were actually parked. But
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: but they don't. They just fucking go.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: And then I wrote a post and I was like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: I'm not the blogger to come at I go somewhere else.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: I'm not the one. I don't give a fuck about
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: anyone's opinion when it comes to raising my child.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: And I love that. I'm gonna do you. You do you.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I need you to coach her a little bit.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: You just can't. I love that. I love that. Yeah,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: like I'm not the one go troll someone else. And
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: they stopped.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Well, because here's the thing. Even if you do it
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: the way that those people are telling you to do it,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: there's another group that disagrees with that way, and then
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I can't win.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: There was there was a woman. I took a picture
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: of ocean and she was in a stroller. And this
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: woman was like, for the love of God, learn how
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: to put your baby in a car seat. And she
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: had like her handle was like so and so and
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: so and so's mom.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: So I responded, I was like.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Babe, it scares me that you have two children and
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you don't know the difference between a car seat and
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: a stroller. It's not a fucking car seat. Like God,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you were you know.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: And sometimes you have to call out there there like
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: outlandish comments like shut.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Up, it's crazy.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: I'll give you. I'll give you a line that you
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: can tell people to say. The coyotes howl and the
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: caravan keeps moving. That's like it's it's the best, especially
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: for both of you, because like people are just chirping
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: in at every angle. Right, It's like you can't, you
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: can you really can't.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: How about just not giving advice over the internet to
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: other people that you don't know.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: But it's like, go do something to someone you you
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: don't know me, You're not like you said your car
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: was parked, Like it doesn't matter, You're not in the environment.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: You have no idea what's going on at all. I
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: could be mid taking her out because we're gonna go
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: on a little stroll, like don't it's just like enough,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: shut up.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: But also, like my thing again is who has the time?
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of people have the time. I'm doing
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: something productive. A lot of people have the time. Okay, well,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: but I mean you don't. You can't. Really.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I think that if you should take the productive energy
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: of focusing on other people's lives and put it towards
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: your own life.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Well, again, what we kind of talked about on our
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: show is I try to reverse engineer it and kind
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: of empathize with the type of like why, like why
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: are you in a place where you feel you need
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: to say these things right, And it's most likely because
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: they're in a pain place, or they're insecure, or if
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: something's not going well and it's or there's like it's
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: a reflection on how an inadequacy in their own life.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: And so what they're doing is are saying Okay, in
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: order for me to feel normal and justify my feelings,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I'm going to lash out at others to bring them
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: into this world of pain. It's like, I think, when
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: you think about it that way, it's hard to get
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: angry at those people because you're like, okay, like this
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: is like a person that may be in a broken
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: state of mind.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: It should be a life coach.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: God fuck no.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: But you make so much sense and like it's like
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: you're like the way you put things, it's like, oh, yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: that is how I should do things. So I read
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that you guys came up with the name. You say
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: it Zaza, Yes, because you thought that it was Zazagabor.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I am obsessed with Jasaha Bor. I've always been obsessed
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: with her. Okay, tell me why what it?
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Well, she's had eight husbands and she she made money
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: off each husband, so and became a gazillionaire off each husband,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: and I.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Just think it's funny.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: I think it's like she like played the game against
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: the guys back in the day, like she just went in,
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: no prenup, and just like you gotta read her books.
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: It's she's really inspired. She's unapologetically herself. She like she
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: just really was someone who was outspoken in that day
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: and age, and she didn't.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Play by the roles.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, So I've read all her books and I would
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: always tell Michael, I'm obsessed with Zazagabor. I'm obsessed with
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: Zazaabor over and over and finally one day he's like,
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: it's Jajah.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Was this after you named your baby?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: No?
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: And then I'm like, oh my god, I'm naming my
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: baby's Azza.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: So the name is like because I think that I
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: think the origin of Jasha is like an old Prussian name.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's a Hungarian Okay, maybe I'm wrong, but right,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: maybe fact check.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: But anyways, he's like, but why.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: But I don't like, I don't prefer the name Jaja,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: And I was like, if you want to call her Zaza,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: you can't spell it Jaja because that's how you that's
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: how you spell.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: We wants what if she wants to do beauty give
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: them kind of like your name actually la La and Zaza.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: No, that's exactly what it is.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I love it, except she's lucky enough to have it
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: as her government name and mine's just a nickname. Well,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you change your name, I should change my name.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I mean I feel like your name's Laala. My name
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is Laala. Do you ever call her Lauren when you're
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: in a fight. That's a good one.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: See, But that's the thing, Lauren.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: Yours, Laurence's Lauren.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: It is Lauren. That's why I go by Laala because
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: people call me.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Lauren and it's doesn't Lauren.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: That's not my name.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: What's the different way?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: How do you say it? Lauren?
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Lawreen?
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: When I tell people, they're like Laurence, say it Lauren
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: and Laurence.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: And what's other one?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Lauren? Okay, okay, it's kind of weird Lauren and Lauren.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: It's like a little.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Customer consumer confusion. Like I can see it's smart.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: You just some of the terrible reviews we get on
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: our podcast. Just to call out our terrible reviews, they
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: get mad at some of this.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Listen, I'm not giving my energy towards anything it's not
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: important sometimes.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Be more professional. You have a podcast as you speak, right.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: The other day someone told me, if you're going to
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: name a bronzer.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Abiza, you need to say it correctly. It's Abiza.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I don't either, I like, I'm American. Z I'm going
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: to say it because I sound like, say it's.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Actually called a besa.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: You should just say that's what it's called.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: It's called what people.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Bronzer is a beisa? Correct?
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: There is is a Beza.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: By the way, I don't even know where that is.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: You guys are amazing.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: You guys are awesome.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Thing you feel like you're doing. I mean I could
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: talk to you guys. What's what's the time?
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: We got to wrap it up, all right, we gotta
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: wrap it up all right. Thank you guys so much
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: for doing the PODCASTP with it. You're welcome. You guys
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: go listen to them on our podcast. You guys were
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: really really good.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: That's no bullshit, opted no, no, we're going to do cap Yeah.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I kind of forgot. Michael is a big planner.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: I love trips. I'm a professional with us. Are going
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: birthday sept Second to the sixth. You're invited.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Don't tell us that I'm serious, do it.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
• 39:30
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• 39:32
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