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Joe Rogan Experience #2356 - Mike Vecchione · NO FILTER

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  Speaker 1: Check it out Joe Experience, Train by Day, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
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  Speaker 1: It's awesome. Does feel better yeah a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a consistent thing. You have to do
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  Speaker 2: it every day. We're talking about decompressing the back.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen lower back pain.
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  Speaker 2: Another thing you can do without a machine is just
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  Speaker 2: bend to your knees. Just bend slightly, grab your arms
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  Speaker 2: like this and just like go forward and relax your
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  Speaker 2: back and it'll pop your back down too.
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  Speaker 1: So I know how to pop a upper back. That's
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  Speaker 1: where you have. Yeah, the person is grab you and
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  Speaker 1: then hold you and then and then you can hear
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  Speaker 1: it crack. I don't know how you know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how good it is. It's kind of right. But
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  Speaker 1: the lower back is UH. When I played football, I
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  Speaker 1: played contact football and we used to go to UH physicals.
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  Speaker 1: You had to get a physical and it was just
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  Speaker 1: a gigantic room and you go from doctor doctor, so
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  Speaker 1: everybody could do it at one time. And I remember
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  Speaker 1: I laid down and the doctor grabbed my leg and
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  Speaker 1: he was trying to get range of motion and he
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  Speaker 1: got it like three quarters of the way up and
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  Speaker 1: it stopped and he said to me, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have lower back pain when you were older, and that's
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  Speaker 1: exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 2: You can avoid he predicted it. There's there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of ways to avoid it. You know, people just accept it.
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  Speaker 2: But what you're telling me right there with not being
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  Speaker 2: able to get your leg up, that's a hamstring issue.
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  Speaker 2: So one thing. Hamstrings and quads and glutes, all the
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  Speaker 2: tightness in those areas will absolutely affect your back because
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  Speaker 2: anytime you have restricted range of motion and you're really tight,
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  Speaker 2: everything else is tightening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I say everything you like kind of pulled down
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  Speaker 2: and you have to figure out a way to lengthen
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  Speaker 2: that shit out. And there's a lot of different stretches
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  Speaker 2: that you could do, but you definitely should be doing them.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody likes to stretch. It sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody hates sucks.
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  Speaker 2: But if you don't do it, you're going to go
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  Speaker 2: to a doctor and they're gonna want to cut you open. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and don't do that because there's other ways around that.
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  Speaker 2: If you're listening to this and you got a bulging
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  Speaker 2: disk in your back, there's ways around it, folks. There's decompression,
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  Speaker 2: there's stem cells. There's a thing that I did a
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  Speaker 2: long time ago in California called.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, what is it called?
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  Speaker 2: What is that ship called that Peyton Manning did? And Regenikine,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, escape my mind.
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  Speaker 1: It's early.
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  Speaker 2: Regena Keine is where they it's like plate lit rich plasma,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a more sophisticated version of it. They first
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  Speaker 2: started pioneered it in Germany. You just have to go
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  Speaker 2: to Germany to get it. But now you get it
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  Speaker 2: in America.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, stopover in Turkey for the hair, and then
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  Speaker 1: Germany if you don't have to do it.
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  Speaker 2: It's in America, now, is it. What is the name
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  Speaker 2: of the place life life cycle Medicine in Santa Monica.
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  Speaker 2: What is the name of the place.
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  Speaker 1: Why am I not remembering?
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  Speaker 2: My brain has way too much extra information and my
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  Speaker 2: hard drop it is so full. Lifespan Lifespan Medicine in
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  Speaker 2: Santa Monica is where I had it done. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: My neck was fucked up for like almost a year,
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  Speaker 2: and I was going to Kira Priors, who are all goofy,
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  Speaker 2: it's all nonsense. And then I finally went to this guy,
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  Speaker 2: doctor ben Ruhi there and he said, you have a
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  Speaker 2: bulging disk in your neck.
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  Speaker 1: We got an MRI.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, this is what we could do, spinal decompression,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll use Regenakin. It's a very potent anti inflammatory.
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  Speaker 2: It'll relax all the muscles around that area, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: slowly it'll go back.
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  Speaker 1: And it went back. You had to go in for
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  Speaker 1: several treatments though the.
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  Speaker 2: Reginakin no, I think it was one treatment it. I
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  Speaker 2: did go back again to get another treatment, but that's
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  Speaker 2: just because I do jiu jitsu and jiu jitsus. You're
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  Speaker 2: just always getting your neck ranked on. I went back
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  Speaker 2: to get like mid back. I think I did one
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  Speaker 2: more on my neck too, but it was I might
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  Speaker 2: not have, but it was more like maintenance than anything.
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  Speaker 2: The big issue had been resolved. And then I started
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  Speaker 2: strengthening because I never really did anything to strengthen my
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  Speaker 2: lower back, my neck, any of those things while I
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  Speaker 2: was training jiu jitsu. In the beginning, I just worked
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  Speaker 2: out normal stuff. I lifted weights.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't deadlifting, and I don't know if you did
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  Speaker 1: these things, but deadlifting and squatting without I squat lightweight
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  Speaker 1: without a belt, doesn't that automatically strengthen your lower back.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it automatically kind of did well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it does a little bit, but it depends.
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  Speaker 1: On not the focused exercises that we.
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  Speaker 2: Were just doing, right, those are just lower back squats
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  Speaker 2: are really for your legs, but it does your lower back,
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  Speaker 2: but also it gets compressed because you're carrying weight on
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  Speaker 2: your shoulders. Yeah, but I do belt squats, which I
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  Speaker 2: really like. So what belt squats are. It's a different machine.
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  Speaker 2: There's another one out there too that was created by
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  Speaker 2: Louis Simmons from a west side barbell, and it's a
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  Speaker 2: strap that goes around you and it goes to a
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  Speaker 2: cable that goes in between your legs, and the weight
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  Speaker 2: is pulling down from your hips, so it's not on
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  Speaker 2: your shoulders compressing your spine, which is great if you
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  Speaker 2: have a back issue.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can squat a lot of weight, but
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  Speaker 2: all of it is like resting on your hips.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome. I can definitely feel the difference in
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  Speaker 1: my strength when I squat and when I don't. Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm a guy who need to lift weights. I was.
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  Speaker 1: I wrestled with guys and played football with guys who
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  Speaker 1: like were naturally just shredded and did not need it.
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  Speaker 1: Was annoying to them to lift weights. Not that it
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  Speaker 1: didn't benefit them, but they were just very muscle bound
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  Speaker 1: and they kind of didn't need it. I need to
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  Speaker 1: lift weights.
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  Speaker 2: Well, everybody needs it. If you're competing against elite guys, that's.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously, but I mean to a certain level.
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  Speaker 2: Right, they're doing it, and you know that you have
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  Speaker 2: great genetics and they have great genics, and they're doing
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  Speaker 2: strength conditioning and you're not right, right, they're going to win, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: or at least they're going to have at least some
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  Speaker 2: kind of an advantage.
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  Speaker 1: But I tell everybody, like my age, I'm fifty two,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, do a circuit, do a forty minute weight circuit,
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  Speaker 1: do three sets of to just go. Just you gotta
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  Speaker 1: do it because I think it affects your I'm not
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  Speaker 1: an expert on this or anything, but I like, I
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  Speaker 1: think it affects your testosterone.
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  Speaker 2: I can feel or it definitely does.
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  Speaker 1: I can feel it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, lifting weights definitely affect your testosterone. Here's another
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  Speaker 2: way to boost your testosterone. Cold plunge before you lift weights.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big one. Or if you don't have that
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  Speaker 2: cold winter. It's great. You do that before you lift weights,
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  Speaker 2: before any kind of training. Actually, you know, because there's
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  Speaker 2: been some negative press lately on cold punges and hypertrophy.
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  Speaker 2: But it's all about doing it right after lifting weights,
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  Speaker 2: which is you're never supposed to do that anyway, You're
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  Speaker 2: not supposed to. The whole idea about lifting weights is
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  Speaker 2: you're breaking your tissue down. The inflammation helps you, is
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  Speaker 2: your body heels and then it gets stronger, and you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to like kill the inflammation.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and the cold is killing the inflammation exactly exactly,
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  Speaker 1: So I do that. I do that. We just moved
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  Speaker 1: into a new building gym in the building. Oh nice,
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  Speaker 1: and that's great. Yeah, we just bought a condo in
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  Speaker 1: New York, right in time for socialism.
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  Speaker 2: Nice, right in time for the fucking communist takeover.
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  Speaker 1: Time for all of us to have to share.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna have to share. You're gonna have to
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  Speaker 2: have immigrants move into your apartment.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I just did. I just twenty years living
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  Speaker 1: with roommates and I just finally got married and bought
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  Speaker 1: a place.
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  Speaker 2: This is the first time you've had your own place.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, whoa Yeah, well, no, no, no, not the first time
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  Speaker 1: I have my own place. We were renting. We rented
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  Speaker 1: for four years. But this is the first time I've
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  Speaker 1: bought something. So I bought property.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's a good idea of
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  Speaker 2: not buying things. I go back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: Really, it's like, I just diversified problems and yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, depends on where you are.
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  Speaker 2: New York City to me seems like a fucking time bomb.
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  Speaker 2: It's like there's a whole bunch of crazy people with
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of wacky ideas, right, and they're getting voted in, Like,
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  Speaker 2: good luck with all that, and your options are them
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  Speaker 2: or the guy from fucking Guardian.
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  Speaker 1: Angels Curtis Sliwa, what if he comes into office and
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  Speaker 1: he goes everybody wears berets. Now it's beret.
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  Speaker 2: Have the beret. The things he's saying makes sense, Like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the stuff he says makes sense. If
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  Speaker 2: he didn't have the beret, I'd be like, maybe I'll
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  Speaker 2: take a little more seriously.
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. Paint, Yeah, there's your
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  Speaker 1: cigarette holder. No, I love it. I love the Guardianel
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  Speaker 1: because they don't have weapons, right, isn't that their whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: I came after that whole initiative, But I do like
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  Speaker 1: the idea. I do like the idea of someone out
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  Speaker 1: there to protect the public other than cops.
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  Speaker 2: Is he's been doing this forever. I remember in I
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  Speaker 2: guess it was the nineties. I was in New York
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  Speaker 2: City and I was in traffic with my girlfriend at
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  Speaker 2: the time. She was sitting next to me, and we're
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  Speaker 2: looking at this Guardian Angel guy.
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  Speaker 1: I go, why do you have to wear the hat? Like?
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  Speaker 2: What is it with the hat?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Why do they make them wear that fucking hat? And
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  Speaker 2: her and I are just laughing, and the guy looks
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  Speaker 2: at me and goes, fuck you, like with a real
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  Speaker 2: angry fast Hey, that's not serving and protecting sir. If
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  Speaker 2: you don't think that hat is funny, the fuck you?
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  Speaker 2: Like what if I say no, fuck you and I
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  Speaker 2: get out and I want to fight? Yes, come on,
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  Speaker 2: this is so stupid. You're not You're not helping. This
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  Speaker 2: is not good.
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  Speaker 1: I would hate to lose to a guy with that hat.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably you're not going I don't imagine anybody that
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  Speaker 2: really knows how to fight is not gonna put that
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  Speaker 2: fucking hat on. You're gonna be like, what am I doing?
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  Speaker 1: But those guys, like I think that what they did
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  Speaker 1: is if there was a disturbance or something or somebody's
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  Speaker 1: acting nuts on the subway, they would just surround him,
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  Speaker 1: surround the person.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's good, Yeah, as long as the guy has
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  Speaker 2: never gone yeah, or a fucking samurais order whatever.
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  Speaker 1: A tiger in his apartment. Yeah, there's a bunch of Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was. That was a big thing for a while,
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  Speaker 1: guys having just wild wildlife in their apartment, tigers and
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: crocodiles and ship.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: Wasn't there a thing with Curtis were like there was
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  Speaker 2: like a fake crime and he was he was like
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  Speaker 2: saving someone, but it was wasn't real. Didn't something like
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  Speaker 2: that happen like back in the day.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember that one. I remember, look, okay, there
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  Speaker 1: was something like that. I remember.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it was an exaggeration or something.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: John Gotti Junior was brought to trial for trying to
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  Speaker 1: kill him, Oh boy, yeah, for saying stuff about his dad.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, oh boy.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: He got I think it was just a hung Jerry
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  Speaker 1: five times and he never got convicted of it. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was a that was a thing. I remember that,
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: and we try to shoot him in a cab. Whoah,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: cabs are bad enough.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Those John Gotti Junior. Interesting, you know John Gotty the
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: third is an MMA fighter. Yeah he's fucking good.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: He's good.
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  Speaker 2: He's good. Yeah, Yeah, he's real good. He fought Floyd Mayweather.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: I saw that.
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  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I think they fought twice.
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  Speaker 2: Admitted he and the Guardian Angels faked heroic subway rescues
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  Speaker 2: for publicity. Okay, so in nineteen ninety two, Sleewood admitted
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  Speaker 2: he and the Guardian Angels faked heroic subway rescues for publicity.
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  Speaker 2: He also admitted to having false claimed falsely that three
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  Speaker 2: off duty transit police officers had kidnapped him. Sleeve explained at.
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  Speaker 1: The time, some jail time right should be right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're saying off duty transit police officers,
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: so are you accusing police officers of a crime, So
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: what are you What you're doing is not just lying,
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: but you're also putting the police officers in jeoputy jeopardy
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: because you're falsely claiming that these guys are outlaws. He
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: claimed that the time stunts were intended to underscore the
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: dangers of the subways, Like, who does know about the
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: dangers of the subway.
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  Speaker 1: Just let the natural stuff play out.
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  Speaker 2: Literally ridden the subway three times in my fucking life,
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  Speaker 2: and keep that up, Jamie, And I'm very aware of
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  Speaker 2: the dangers of the fucking subway. When the Guardian Angels
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  Speaker 2: first became trolling streets and subways, New York City was
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: experiencing some of the highest crime rates. I feel the
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: incidents we staged led to some improvements. He said, Oh boy,
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: oh boy, Jesse. Yeah, before Jesse, that's Jesse Small before
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  Speaker 2: Jesse Cubs.
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  Speaker 1: God, damn. That guy stuck to his story. Even the
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  Speaker 1: guys who beat up person when they flipped, even after
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: they flipped, he stuck to his story. Is that an
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: actor or is that an actor? Bro?
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: He showed up and had the news still around his neck.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: That's what happens. You let actors write the scripts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Like you ever heard when she was on trial with Depp?
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: Like kind of similar, Like when you let the actors
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: write the script, you're like, whoa hold, what happened?
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: Come on, what is this? Netflix sets Jesse Smollett documentary
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: with new evidence alleged hate crime. Hope hoax might be
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: a true story.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: He never tracked on it. Who's funny, I was.
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: I just googled his name and there's like the last
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: two days, there's stories about this dock. It could just
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  Speaker 3: be a propal documentary.
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Whoever his pr team is, congratulations, you guys rule. It
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  Speaker 1: should be at least a documentary.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you got there? A little tiny cigar?
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Little tiny ones? You got a big one too?
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're mixing it up. You're not sure what
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: you want?
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: Now? This is before I go on. Usually I just
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to take the commitment
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  Speaker 1: to this. Oh.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: I feel like the little like Ron White.
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  Speaker 1: They're fantastic money Christos.
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: They're good because like, if you don't want to commit
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: to a full cigar right station? But Ron White and
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: hails these bitches.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Does he really a animal? And you're gonna tell me
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: it carres his lower back?
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: Well, he plays golf, so he must have a good
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: lower back, you know.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: By the way.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Speaking of which, I watched Happy Gilmore too last night.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: It's fucking hilarious.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: I like it too. I just watched it.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: I love Adam Samla. I love those movies because you
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: know exactly what you're gonna get. They're always fun. Like
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: critics hate him, but that just it's more information that
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: you get.
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: The critics suck. I love him too.
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  Speaker 2: They're great.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: I think he's great. I think he's great. He's great.
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  Speaker 1: And what I love about him is he doesn't care
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  Speaker 1: and he just keeps moving with what he wants to
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  Speaker 1: do with his people. He has a group of people
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  Speaker 1: that he loves and that are creative, and he just
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  Speaker 1: keeps going with it. Yeah, and I think he's very
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  Speaker 1: funny anyway.
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  Speaker 2: He's very funny. I saw his standing up live in
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  Speaker 2: Vegas once, him and Rob Schneinder they killed. It was
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: really fun. I hadn't seen Adam in forever. I hadn't
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: seen him since we did a Zoo Keeper together, which
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: was like it had to be like fifteen years ago,
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: somewhere around then. So he's got the same people that
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: he always works with. He's got the same directors he
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: always works with. He's always working with Spade and Schneider,
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: all the guys he knows. So it's like real fun
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: on the set. Everybody's friendly, same as Kevin James. He
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: does Kevin James rocks at the exact same way. Go
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: to his set. Everybody's friendly, everybody's having fun. There's no
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  Speaker 2: weird fucking ego bullshit. The actors, everybody's pals. They're all pals.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: They'll write for each other, so they're all sitting around
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: like the when when we're doing table reads, everyone's laughing,
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  Speaker 2: cracking jokes an yeah, good times, good times.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how you make the best stuff when it's
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  Speaker 1: loose and playful and fun and everybody can be creative
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: and there's no weirdness there.
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: The enemy of comedy is tension always, like the tension
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: you have between like co workers, like this is like
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: you know, Phil Hartman told me the Saturday Level like
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: the most stressful thing that he ever did in his
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: life because there was so much tension because they everybody
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: behind the scene was backstabbing everybody's And Brewer says the
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: same thing. Yeah you ever heard Brewer talking. Man, he's
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: the best.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: He's really a good guy. I was on the road
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: with him a little bit. He's really good guy and
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: and very like the quintessential theater act like you see
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: you see him in a theater. I go watch him
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: after I was done with my set and it's like
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: he fills the space.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a great theater right.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: He's a big act, yes, right, Like the big stage
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: is actually great for his act. But he murders in clubs.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: He'll murdering arena. He's he's an old school He's a
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: great person too, like when I what I love about
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: him is like he had no desire to be like
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: super famous, no desire. All he wanted to do is
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: kill all is be great at comedy and just live
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: in his own world. He lived in Jersey and a
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: nice suburban community, just chilled. Didn't need fancy cars or
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: any bullshit. It just just loves being funny.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: I love that. I love the idea of just like
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: a waking up every day and it's like, how can
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I be better? Yeah? I love that. You know who's
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: the best of that? I tell?
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: I tell and maybe the best comic a live Yeah,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: and maybe one of the I mean from in my
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: book top five, top six of all.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Time, Yes for sure.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: And he's effortless, Yes, effortless.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: But he's always working on his act, which is kind
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: of torturous. It's a torturous thing if you're if you're
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: always tinker. You're always working on it, and it's like
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: it's never done. It's always like you're in the mix.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: You're like I don't know, and it's like, but I
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: You love If that's what you love to do, then
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: it's great. It's like you have to teach yourself that
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: that's what you love to do, right instead of like, God,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I can't wait till this hour is ready, Like right now,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I really only have like forty minutes. Maybe I could
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: do forty five. I could do like forty five minutes,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: which is like a year after my special. But once
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: you get it down, so it's it's sloppy. This is
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: some shit in there that like needs some work, but.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: That you have, like even if you're going to go
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: back and make corrections on it, you have the scaffolding
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: for it, which is very important. It's like the scaffolding.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: It's like that kind of hard stuff is not that
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: new stuff won't come in. It might still come in,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: but you have the scaffolding for it. Now, now that's.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Exactly how I describe it. I'm so glad you said
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: it that way. That's what all joke structure is like
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: scaffolding and then how you put the funny. You have
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: to have a premise a thing you think is ridiculous,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: and then that's your scaffolding, and then it's all your
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: perspectives on.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: It, right right.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: You know who was the best at that Richard Jenmy.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking about him this morning too. I
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: was just thinking about him in terms of a comic
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: that I don't know if you knew him or not,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: but like I watched him as a kid, and he
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: blew me away with how good he was. He was
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: so good. And then I talked to a tell in
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: New York. He's like he was the guy.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: He was the guy.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: He was really the.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Guy in the nineteen eighties. He was the guy. I apologize.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I you've heard me tell the story before people. But
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: he worked at east Side Comedy Club and he was
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: there for the weekend. And I went there on Sunday
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and this dude Pete, who was the MC, was depressed.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Like why he depressed? He goes because Richard Jenny did
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: a totally different hour both shows Friday and bull shows Saturday,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: never repeated a joke and fucking murdered. And he goes
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: and I want to quit comedy.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: That's insane. That's insane. Yeah, people like that will frustrate you. Yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: he was a comic. But watching him as a kid,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is the ful because we're Italians, yep,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: so we're watching it as but he's funny no matter what. Yeah,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: but just especially from being an Italian family and watching him,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the funniest thing. We were done,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: we'd quote him. He was so good.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so good, and you had to see
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: him live. It's one of those things, like you see,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: he's got some great specials. A steaming pile of Me
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: is great. Platypus man, that's great. And his first one
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: was The Boy from New York City that's great too.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: It's a great one. He has that Jaws story being
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: on the road and being so bored and watching Jaws
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: just hits you with a face with how stupid it is.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It's such a great bit and it's so punched up
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: all the way through, and I just I absolutely love that.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: He was the best.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: What I was getting at as a maximizing the scaffolding.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: He would take a bit and he would find every
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: possible angle, and right when you thought he was done,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: it would get funnier. It would go deeper and funnier
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and more ridiculous, and they'd be callbacks, and he was
• 18:53
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• 18:55
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• 20:11
  Speaker 2: He wanted to be a sitcom star, so he did
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: a show on upn Platypus Man same as a special.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: They called it that, and then that didn't HEPN was
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: like it was a new network and nobody was watching it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: It was one of those things, just like if.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: You had a show there, it's like, yeah, now you
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: can't have a show on NBC. I mean it's not that.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Good and the network's not getting any eyes exactly.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: But it was okay, you know when it lasted a
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: little bit. And then he did the Mask with Jim
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Carrey and he did some other stuff.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: But he was good at night. He's a good actor.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: He's a good actor, but he didn't have the classic
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: good looks that would not that you need him like Rodney.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: He didn't have it either. Or John Lovice didn't have
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: it either. But it's like he wanted to be a
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: movie star and he was bummed out that he was
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: on the road all the time. And I would every
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: time I would do radio, you know, there was always
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: like the guy that would drive you? And I would like,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: who's the most miss fuck you ever have to drive?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And they all said Richard Jen Oh my god, no
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: it was me.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: It was like a steak in my heart. No, he's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: the best. There's got to be an opposite. He's the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: funniest guy. Like, there's got to be an opposite.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: To the exactly, there's a there's a there's a stain
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: and an anger, frustration, but it led him to be
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: a fucking genius comedian man.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: And no one talks about him anymore. I feel like
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like anyone talks about it. I tried
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to carry the torch.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I really do, because he affected me a lot when
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I was a kid. I remember I used to kind
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: of one time I was an open micro and I
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: found myself I physically got sick. I was like, oh no,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I sounded exactly like him on stage, like I was
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: copying him. I was like, oh no, don't do that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: But it's just because I loved him, so I'm such
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: a fan.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: But as soon as that happens, it's goes. I got
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to stop listening to this guy. I gotta get away
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: from him. I gotta stop listening.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, But it was just I just wanted to
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: be him. I wanted I admired him so much. I
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: wanted to be like him.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: But that's such a great thing with the scaffolding, and
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: it's like punched up all the way through and then
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: just walking up there and knowing it's like I'm about
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to let this loose on this crowd, and it's like
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: watching them react to it, it's like they're doubled over
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and you just keep coming at It's like when you're fight,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: if you're fighting somebody like a boxer, like a Pacquiao
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: in his prime, where he'd turn you, he'd hit you
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: three times, turn you, hit you three times, turn you,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and then hit you three more, and you're like you're like,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I can't I can't move, Like there's no defense to this.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: So that's what that's what like that is like, is
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: like just keep coming with punches, punches, punches, punches, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it's on real.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I love a big chunk like that. Like one of
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: my favorite bits of the last few years, Brian Simpson
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: has this bit about the song Wet Ass Pussy, but
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: it goes all the way back to Queen Elizabeth. It's
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: like this amazing long bit. I don't want to ruin it,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: but the end of it is fucking He wraps it
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: up with a bow. It's his closer. I love that's
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: so good. I would like leave the green room when
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I knew he was gonna close, just so I could
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: watch the Wet Ass Pussy. But I would ask him
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: to do it please. I go, please do the Wet
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Ass Pussy bet please, because it was such a it's
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: like a poly But Brian's a real writer. Like Brian
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: sits down and writes, which is one of the things
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: that I always try to tell young guys. I'm like,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I know you like to write on stage. I know
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you write when you're with your friends. I know you
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: come up with great premises and you work them out
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: on stage. But that extra step of sitting down and
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: writing is fucking critical.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: It's big.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: It's big because you can get stuff there that you
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: wouldn't get and it's got to be a routine.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: It's like get up, do whatever you do, stretch and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: then that's what I do now, is like stretch and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: then delay coffee. That's another big thing I'm trying is
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to delay coffee. Get because the gym is in the building.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Get a workout first, right out of bed, and then uh,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: and then come back up, cold shower and then get
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, and then write, do that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Cold shower first, dude, do that cold shower right away
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and you won't even need the coffee.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: You'd be like, then it'll workout, and then go right
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: into a we're in a hot shower after. Sure.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do sauna after the workout. That's what I
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: usually do.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, that's the nice to do steam room
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: when I was at the gym.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Steam room's okay. But the problem with steam rooms you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: really can't get it as hot because dry air won't
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: like scald your skin like wet wet air will poach you.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: If you do one hundred and ninety five degrees wet,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get burned, like it's gonna literally poach you
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: like an egg. But you can do one hundred and
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: ninety five dry in the sauna, and that's why I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: don't know much about the infrared saunas. I don't think
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: there's the same amount of data on them. It's definitely
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: better than doing nothing, but I think that the real sauna,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: like we have a slute sauna in the back here,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: that motherfucker will go up to two ten to fifteen
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to wow. And that dry sauna is
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: where all the research from Finland comes out. They did
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: over twenty years. They found that if you do the
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: sauna four times a week for twenty minutes at one
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five degrees, it's a forty percent decrease
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: in all cause mortality.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Whatever they do. That was this study in Italy. No,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: this is the study of Italians who were doing sauna,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and it was something similar to this.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It's all similar because it's all great for reduction of inflammation,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: increase of red blood cells. It has like a mild
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: epo effect on your endurance. Like one of the things
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that I've done, like every time I've been injured where
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do cardio, I just did sauna every day
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and then I'd go back to cardio and it was
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: not that much of a drop off, not like it
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: used to be. Like it used to be, like if
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: I got hurt, I couldn't hit the bag, I couldn't
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: do cardio for a while, and then I would go
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: back to doing it, like, oh god, I'm so out
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: of shape. Yeah, So that drop off doesn't happen as much,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: not nearly as much if you do sauna every day
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: and all, like the Eastern Blood Dan Gable told me
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: that was something that he learned in his wrestling days. Wow,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: at all the Eastern Bloc eys, we're all doing sauna
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: after training, and it's essentially like static cardio.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So like I wear a whoop strap and.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I'll go in the sauna after training and I'll look
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: at my app and I'm at one hundred and forty
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: five beats per minute just sitting there, because I'll go
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: straight for working out. So I'll do rounds in the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: bag and then heart rate elevated, go right in the song,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: and it keeps your heart rate up. Wow, because you're
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: fucking struggling. You're struggling your body because it's already overheated
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: from the workout, and then your body's in one hundred
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: and ninety five degrees and your heart's just pounding, but
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: it's like static cardio.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: That's really something. It's really good for you. And then
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I stretch in there, which is the best. That is
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: great stretch. I used to do bickram.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to do it, and I want to
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: get back into it now that I'm not paying for
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a gym. That's what you should do. I want to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: do that. And I want to go back to boxing.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I used to do boxing. A bunch of comics went
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: to boxing in New York and we took a class together.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: A little bit to the body, but nothing, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: we just he just took us through the training. And
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I mean I wrestle a little bit in college, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I gotta say it's the training was very very That's
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: why I liked it. It was very, very tough. It's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: very hard. Boxing's tough, yeah, I mean, but you know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: but a lot of the boxing training for civilians isn't.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: But this guy, his name is Steve Frank He put
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: us through it and it's like it's it was he
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: was like would not let up after after an hour.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god. It's like you got to
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: get used to You keep be on the road to
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: because you got to get used to it, because if
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: you don't get used to it, then it shoots your
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: whole day. You're exhausted for the rest of the day.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: It's like I can't do any that spots that I get,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like I always avoid doing leg days. On
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: days I do stand up and I've done it before
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: where I've done leg days. Then I try, and then
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I go on stage that night and I'm always like struggling.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: This is like it's just too hard. It's too much
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of a burden on your entire system, right right, you know,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: squats and lunges and pulling the sled and all that shit.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end, but it feels good, like this
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: suffering is it's like a Goggins thing where it's like
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: this suffering like put yourself in an uncomfortable situation every
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: day and then when you come out of it, it
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: just feels so good.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I try to tell that to everybody. I'm like, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: know it sucks, but please do it. It'll make the
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: rest of your life suck less. It really will. And
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: you don't have to do what I do. You could
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: just I mean, just put a weighted vest on it,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: go walk around your block. You don't have to say that, right,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: it's not that hard. You just have to do something something,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Just do something that sucks. Yeah, do one hundred push ups,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: one hundred set ups on hundred body weight squads every day.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Do that.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Not that hard, Yeah, do it in sets of If
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: you can't do twenty, do it in sets of ten.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Just do ten sets of ten for the pushups. Build
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: up to it. Start, tell yourself you're gonna do twenty today,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: twenty this week. Next week you do twenty five. Then
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: before you know what, you're doing one hundred.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Just do that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just do fucking something something Yeah, and you feel
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: so good after it. That's the whole thing. And that's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the time. I try to time it with when I'm writing,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: because it's like you want to feel all you want
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to feel that energy while you're writing. Yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I do my best writing late at night. I do
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: my best writing when everyone's asleep.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: That's another secret where it's like the guys who write
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: after the set. Yes, yes, yeah, that's a city where
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: it's like I'm done, I'm gonna watch I'm gonna de
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: escalate now and go to sleep. Especially on the road
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you're doing an hour two shows. You're doing an hour
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: two shows, and then you come back you're like, all right,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I want to do I traveled all day. I wanted
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to escalate, to go to sleep. It's like, you know,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: trick yourself a little bit. Let me just look at
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: these notes. Yeah, let me just look at the notes
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that I have on the set that I just did. Suck.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing about It doesn't suck to do.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: It's not like you hate it. It's not like painful, no,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: but you avoid it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: You avoid it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you avoid it because
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you're like, now I did it, I'm done. I want
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to go to sleep. It's like, nah, I just take
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: another Just check in on it. Just check in on
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the app.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Even twenty minutes. You might yield one of your best punchlines.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: It just like every now and then, like the universe
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: will reward you if you put in that work. Yeah,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you just sit down and put in that work.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I think that's with fucking everything in the world. Everything.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I was watching this video today on Usik's training on
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Alexander Usik, who's just did you see that fight?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, best, Jesus Christ dude.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's one of the best of all time,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: one of the absolute best heavyweights's ever lived.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: The thing that was remarkable about and I agree, the
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: thing that's remarkable about that fight is Dubois came out
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the first round and was aggressive and I'm like, oh right,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: da is fucking dangerous. Its coming, dude, and he like,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: this is an opportunity and I'm not. I'm not gonna
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: lose it. I'm like, and uh, Usk felt that. They
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: said between rounds he felt it, and he's like, okay, okay,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I can't let this guy get confidence. Yeah, So he
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: stepped in the center of the ring and just started
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: countering him and not giving up any more ground.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and cutting these angles these like he just downloads
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: what you're doing and starts adding in feints. And you know,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Joshua said that when he trained, when he fought him,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: rather that at the last round, he had never been
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: more tired in his life. He just couldn't believe how
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: tired Usk makes you because he's constantly fainting and moving.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: So I watched this, uh his training routine today. Jesus
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Christ man, like, no wonder He's in the same shape.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: He would swim sometimes for five hours a day, five
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: hours of just laps in the pool he would do.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: He starts his day at four point thirty in the morning,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: so four thirty in the morning, he gets up, eats breakfast,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: and has his first training at five. At five, it's
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: all conditioning. It's all like running, rowing, biking, takes a break,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: eats again, takes a little nap, back in the gym
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: again like two hours, and then he's sparring, boxing, doing
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: all that workout. Then eats, takes a break, relaxes a
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: little bit. Evening session is boxing, and evening session he's sparring.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: He's you know, he's hitting mits, he's hitting the bag.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Gets up in the morning, he does it all over again,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and it's like it's all like this, that's that reverse.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: That's the machine that Louis Simmons created. That is fucking
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: phenomenal for your lower back. It decompresses your back actively
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: on the downswing and strengthens it on the upswing. And Louis,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: who is a genius, who was one of the only
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: guys we ever traveled to do a podcast with. Yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: it's like, I gotta get this guy on film. He's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: like a legitimate strength genius. And he developed that machine
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: because he had a bulging disc and they were like, oh,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: gotta get your disfused because he was a powerlifter, fucking
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: complete maniac's, complete psychopath on steroids his whole life. He
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: was an amazing person. And uh, he was like, that
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. If compression is what the problem was,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: decompression will fix it. And he devised that machine to
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: actively decompress on the downswing, so strengthening all the tissue
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: around that and then decompressing it on the downswing.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Wow, that makes it. He must have had like a
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: did he have some kind of an engineering background?
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: He must have to is there's Lois the fucking man
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: to create that thing.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Such a fun guy to talk to too.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: It's just such a fucking psychopath, an intelligent psychopath, his
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: back swords and shit. Just a fun, fun dude, but
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: genius when it came to strength and conditioning. I mean
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: he so many guys like Mma Fighters went and trade
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: with him, Matt the Immortal Brown did a lot of
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: training with him, and then you know, used a lot
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: of his stuff with you know, Matt Cell's equipment now too.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of stuff that he worked on with
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Louis right, But it's like, you know, he'd have all
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: these guys that were like these world champion lifters. I mean,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: these guys are fucking gorillas, big shaved.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Head, but Louie was the man.
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  Speaker 2: specifically for that. But Usik's training, a lot of it
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: is like ladder board, you know, on the ground, you
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: know the ladder. When you're doing the steps, it's like
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: constant shuffling back and forth, spinning. It's all these punches
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: with medicine balls. It's like when you watch him train,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: it makes sense because he's training specifically to move differently
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: than everybody else does. It's all these constant movements and
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: switches and angles and strength. And you know, he's a
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: legit heavyweight. Now he's two twenty seven for the Dua fight.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: And you know this is coming from a guy who
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: was the Understred Cruiserweight champion. So he's a small heavyweight.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: But the best heavyweights were small except for Foreman and
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: a couple other guys like Tyson was small, Ali was
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: not big. He's exactly the same size as Ali when
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Ali was in his holy field exactly.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But he unified like he unified that cruiserweight division, Like
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: he didn't get any gifts. Nope, there he went around
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and unified it and then moved up and then unified.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just what was the How many weeks
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: is that training camp? Oh? I don't know.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I mean it has to be three months plus. I mean,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I would imagine the most difficult opponent for him is
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Tyson Fury, because Tyson Fury is six foot nine. He
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: is an incredible boxer. He's one of the best boxers
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: of all time and regardless of any division, just skillful.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Tyson Fury is a skillful boxer. He's slick and intelligent.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: And you know, people talk about like what's next for
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: USIG should be Joseph Parker. Yeah, that would be a
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: great fight. Joseph Parker deserves it. But what I want
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to see before the fucking the haze in the barn,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: I want to see one more, one more Tyson because
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Fury is the only one that's given him problems, the
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: only one that came close. He heard him to the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: body a bunch of times.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Is fighting.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: He was lighting them up with a jab. You know,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: those fights.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Were close, They were very close.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: They were close. I mean Usik almost stopped him in
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the first fight, and I think it was the ninth
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: round he could have and he pulled back when the
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: referee was like calling it a knockdown, where he could
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: have caught him one or two more times, right, and
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: that would have probably been that would have been a wrap.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: But other than that, like, no one has given Usick
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the problem that Tyson Fury's given him. And I think
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: you give Tyson one more shot at it. Where I mean,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: he's training now. I know he's posting up a lot
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: of stuff about his times, like he's doing a lot
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: of endurance work now, and.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So he's geared fight before. He's gonna have another fight now.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Right into the fucking come on, man, this guy's a veteran.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: He's been doing it forever. Right into the Fury, right
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: into the fire.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Rather see, I want to see Fury insha. Oh that's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: in all England.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see, Yeah, I'd love to see that.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: That would sell out like Wembley.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: They're talking about doing.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: They were supposed to fight many times a long time ago.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: It kept you know, they were supposed to fight. They
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: thought they were on a you know, and the money
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: was never right or something. But what now with like
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Turkey Alashk in the mix.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: You know, well, it would say if they decided to
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: do Parker versus Uzik, which is a great fight. Yeah,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I think that would be the fight that they would
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: have underneath it would be it that would be amazing
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Tyson and Joshua. But they're talking right now about doing
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Anthony Joshua Jake Paul.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I know, I saw that Jake.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Paul apparently wants that fight and he he agreed to.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I think it was ninety nine percent to one, where
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Joshua gets ninety nine percent of the money and he
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: gets one percent. See if that's true, that's what I believe.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I read that online. That might be just some shenanigans.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: But look, regardless of what you think about Jake.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Paul, Like, I think Jake Paul is a great athlete. Oh,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: he's a great athlete. I don't know. If Ham or
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Logan placed in states in Ohio in wrestling, like you're not,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: it may seem like nothing to people on a national level,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: But if you're placing in states in Ohio, they're both
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: great athletes.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Both of them are great athletes. People think they're jokes
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: because they were famous when they were kids. That doesn't
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: mean anything. Like Mario Lopez. People look at Mario Lopez
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: like Mario Lopez is like saved by the bell guy. No,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Mario Lopez can box and fight. He does Brazilian jiu jitsu.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: He's a very good wrestler. I don't know if you've
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: ever seen that guy that does. I'll give you a
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars if you could take me down.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Have you ever seen that guy? I love that guy.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: That guy's from my high school in Ohio. What is
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: his name, I don't know, I forget it's something Greek,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: but like he he's a guy who he was an
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Ohio State champ and maybe a runner up his senior year,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: and then he went to Cleveland State and was just
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a guy who was like I don't think he did
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: anything in college really, but the way he wrestles. I
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: could see by the way he wrestles, and it's a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: it's a good video series. It's just like very smooth,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: very smooth. He's very very talented. Oh, he's super talented.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: The point is Mario Lopez wrestled him and gave him
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: a fucking great scramble, a bunch of great roles, a
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: bunch like Mario Lopez is legit, like really legit. And
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: you could say say you brother Bill pussy, oh fu
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: can smack up. That dude will fuck you up.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: You can say all that until you get into it
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: with the Yeah.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: That's shout out to Georgia. He's a bad motherfucker because
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: that guy wrestles. Dude's way bigger than him. Check out
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: this Mario. So, by the way, Mario Lopez and is
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: in his fucking he's in his he's in his fifties.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Now watch this scooter ahead a little so you can
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: see some of this scoodhead.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: So there we go.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Mario can fucking wrestle, dude like legit wrestle and scramble
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: and avoid takedowns. He got him there. Look at this
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Mario shoots in on a single like that has some
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: good scrambl and again in his fucking fifties.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Man, that's great.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: He's also competing in jiu jitsu, and I know he's
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: won jiu jitsu matches like these are good fucking scrambles, man.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: Legit, Yeah, I love it. I love watching this series too.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, the dude's good and he's he's done
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: it with some national champions and a bunch.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: He always does an interview beforehand. It's like what discipline
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: are you from? How many years? And then he's like,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: what are you from one to ten? Ten? Being you're
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: gonna take me down? What do you think that the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: odds are that you take me down? A lot of
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: them say ten ten, dude, and some of them are
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: really big guys, you know what I mean. It just
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: goes to show you. It's like, yeah, that guy's tough
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and he's a technician.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Well that's the whole thing about grappling is technique. It's everything.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: It's everything. It's in jiu jitsu and judo and everything.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: It's just about technique. This is great old judo clip
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of this guy. I mean, I want to say he
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: was in his seventies at the time, and it's a
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: black and white film of all his younger black belts
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: rolling with him, like doing standing I don't know what
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: they call it standing judo practice, and he's like effortlessly
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: avoiding these takedowns with balance and technique. It doesn't ever
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: look like he's like exploding, really using a lot of
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: force and just flips these guys to the ground.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: It's gorgeous to watch.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: It's just like, my goodness, because you know you're looking
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: at that guy like there's no that guy's not a brute.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: He's not some big giant, two hundred pound muscle fucking
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: super athlete that you just he's just technique, just loose.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: And it's also it's also it's very loose.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find that, Jamie. It's like old judo
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: guy trains with younger students and it's old. It's like
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: black and white.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: I got the Jake Paul there. There's a lot of
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: rumors that it says that ninety ninety one was accepted
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: on his side, but I can't find like where he
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: said it, just like a lot of Instagram.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't care about the money, like Jake Paul,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: like probably doesn't care about the money.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: That has plenty of money. And if he won, oh
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: my god, if he if he beat Anthony Joshua, good lord,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: good lord. I mean that's a big if Anthony Joshua,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Olympic gold medalist, former heavyweight champions World, what he did
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: to Francis and Ghana like, good lord, yes, do you
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: want that smoke?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think it's all about the promotion or whatever.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what the actual motivation is for
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: that Fight's not competitive at all.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: What's a dangerous fire because Joshua was going to try
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: to make an example out of him, for sure.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And Will and Will.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I mean Josha was one of the biggest one punch
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: ko artists ever. Yes, I mean he's a one punch
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: fucking night night guy. You know, he's a great boxer,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: you know, very skillful.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Naganu fight, we all thought it's like the
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Ghanu with Fury. It's like, Wow, this guy's in the mix.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Now he's in the mix. Let's let's see what happens.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, okay, that's what happened.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: The difference is Fury I think underestimated him. I think
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Fury took him super lightly. He thought he was going
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: to box his face off. And that power that Francis
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: has is legendary.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Francis is like a character from a comic book, you know.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I mean he lived in Cameroon and he worked in
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: the sand mines when he was a boy. It's like
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: the Conan origin story, like digging sand as a boy.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Just well, hopefully he got paid. He got paid for it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Here's the guy, Like, check out this old dude. And
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I think this dude, look at this shit, bro, I
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: think this dude might have been ninety at the time.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I don't know how old he is.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: How old does it say he is, Jamie, He's old
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: as shit. However old he is, he's at least seventy.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: And he looks to me like he's even.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Old than that.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Look at how he just Look how he's avoiding this.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: That's so like, so relaxed.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Just the size of the guy that's trying to throw him,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: who's a judo black belt, who's towering over here. Look
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: at this bro, effortless, effortless takedown. But it's look at
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: this guy, like this guy hitting that hip throw and
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: not getting any movement off that old dude at all, right,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: And it's look, the old dude's tiny, yeah, man, and
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: everything he does is just super relaxed. He just knows
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: where to be where you can't throw him.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Look steps in the right position. He's not exploding. He
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: just anticipates your movements and meets you there. It's like Judo.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: When you look at that man, I mean he just
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: threw a dude that's twice his size. He throws them
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: like effortless. It's kind of amazing, man, it is. And
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you know, if you would think it's bullshit unless you've
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: trained with a guy like that, and then you go, wow,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: this is nuts. Man. It's just perfect like execution of
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: that kind.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Of technique, right, you know, it's unreal.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And when you see in wrestling too, it's like you
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: see guys who they chain moves together and as the
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: guys trying to do that, they're countering with this, and
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: the next thing you know, they're on your back and
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: you're down. Like my god, such an underappreciated thing, wrestling,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: you know it the way we.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it too. I mean I wrestled, but I was
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: never that. I was never like could get that fluid right,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean that fluid. It's really the guys
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: who are like top notch. Oh, it doesn't matter what
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: program you come from. It's like you could see it.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: You could see this guy Georgia like he has it.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: It's like the flow, like he'll shoot for something and
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: if that doesn't, he'll he'll see where the leg and
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: he'll adjust on the fly. It's like the improv of
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: it is amazing.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a really undappreciated sport in terms of
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: like the way the public perceived sports. Everybody loves basketball,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: everybody loves baseball, We love all these sports, and no
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: one appreciates wrestling. So it never had a professional outlet
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: for whatever dumb reason, other than MMA, where it dominates.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: If you look at MMA, like if you look at
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: all the if the disciplines of all the champions of
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: all time, I think wrestling as a significant lead. I
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: think there's more athletes that came from wrestling that became
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: world champions and any other discipline.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Well before everybody started cross training, I think our training
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: was the model. I might be wrong, but like our training,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: like wrestling practice was very hard. When I was in
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: like an even in eighth grade, I was like, this
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: is unbelievably harder than anything I've ever experienced. So I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: think everybody cross trains now, everybody kind of trains like that,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: but we were the first where it's like you get in,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: it's like you warm up, and it's it's just military
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: like yep, and its execution of practice. You have to
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: be in practice. You're just wiped out at the end
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of practice and they have to cut wait after that.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: So it's mental strength on top of that. That's a
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: giant factor with wrestling. And one of the things about
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: wrestlers is they revel in the fact that they suffer
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: more than anybody else. Yes, they like take it as
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: a badge of courage, right, It's like a badge of
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: honor that they'll display, Like Mike over there, he fucking
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: suffers more than anybody wins. Mike's a psycho at three
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning eating raw eggs, you know, Like
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: those are the guys everyone was scared of.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: But very few people have said wrestling is fun like
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: basketball is fun. No, one who's wrestled seriously is like,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: oh it's fun. It's like it's not fun. No, Like
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: the training is not fun. It's it's painful, and it's.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Only fun if the guy you're wrestling sucks and you
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: train a lot that that moment winning is great.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you know the actual process of going
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: to practice, like I gotta cut weight.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's one of the best character developers for absolutely. Actually,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: the guys that I meet that are former wrestlers, competitive wrestlers,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: they're just a different kind of human being. It's like
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: military guys, like guys who have been through like Navy
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: seal training or there's a different kind of human Yeah. Yeah,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Like you're gonna you're dealing with a guy who can
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: get through some shit that the average person is gonna
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: fold up under. And if you can learn how to
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: do that and overcome that desire to quit when you're
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: a kid, oh so valuable. It's so valuable for the
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: rest of your life.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it helps if you're not very good, yeah right,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: But you're also if you're like on the fence and
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: you have to work for everything, it's like because you're
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: coming up coming across all kinds of adversity and stuff,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and then you have to figure out and you know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I could speak from experience, it's embarrassing to get pinned
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: in a gym full of people. Oh, it's not like
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: losing a basketball game, even football, when I love the
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: camaraderie of football, it's not losing a football game. Having
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: your shoulder blades pinned down in front of everybody in
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: a gymnasium.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Is against your will. Yeah, it's totally humiliating. And the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: reality about fighting is if a guy can hold you down,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: he could beat you up.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: That's just how it works. This guy who's my same
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: weight can pretty much do whatever he wants to make.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so yeah it's and.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: We take that home with you and when you go up.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: When I wrestled, I remember the difference between like regular
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: guys that would wrestle like.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: You know in meats.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: You know, you'd Maulden, Massachusetts would wrestle against Newton, and
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: you know, go to the travel down different seeing that
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: and then getting in there with like a state champion.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh okay, this is like and then you
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: hear these guys go to camps every summer and it's
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: twenty four seven, three sixty five. They're always wrestling, right,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: there's no like wrestling season, Like oh I never catch up.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: It's so funny when you're in a guy, you're in
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: with a guy who's really good. You're mentally preparing yourself.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: It's like, I just got to take it to him.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I just got to take it to him. I just
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: got to go out there and be aggressive and take
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: it to him, and then he's moving so fast that
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you're like, I just can't keep I can't keep up
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: with this guy.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have no chance. And most people have no
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: idea how to helpless they are against a wrestler. There's
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: a horrible street fight video that I watched the other
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: day where this guy they square off in the street.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: This guy takes a swing at this guy, and this
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: guy shoots in with a double hoist this dude up
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: into the air and power slams him on his head
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: on the concrete and then punches him in the face
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: a couple times where he's completely unconscious. Then his buddies
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: jump on him and it's a fucking malee.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Thank god for that. Yeah, well, I think buddy's pulling
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: him off.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I think even that alone. Man, you get a real
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: powerful wrestler slams you on your head. I mean, that's
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: you might not live. I don't know what happened in
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: that eye, but I looked at that, I'm like, that
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: guy could be dead. Guys get Guys die all the
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: time from getting knocked out in the street fight.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Y hitting their head. Yeah, that's how they die. Yeah,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: but that's another video. It's like, what happens afterwards.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Did you see that video from there's a Cleveland Jazz
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Festival Cincinnati, Cincinnati Jazz Festival where this couple got jumped
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: and this guy got beaten down and kicked, and then
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: the girl was trying to separate it, and this guy
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: punches the girl and chaos her and she falls and
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: bangs her head on the ground and she's out cold
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: with her eyes open. It's fucking horrifying.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: That's horrible to watch.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: And people are screaming and cheering kick his ass. And
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: unfortunately it's a bunch of black people jumping two white people,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: so it's even more problematic, you.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Know what I mean. Yeah, it's it's a horrible video.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Man, of the worst aspects of human nature. This right
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: fucking desire to beat people up for no reason. I
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: don't mean, I don't know what the reason was. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: don't know what happened.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Right, Those things are hard to watch. You have to
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: watch like cute pet videos after that to get yourself back,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you know, like a dog who befriends her cat.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, as a man punched a woman right in
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: the face and knocked her unconscious and she bangs her
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: head off the ground. Her eyes are out wide open.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Oh it's fucking horrible.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: That kind of shit could affect you for the rest
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: of your life. I'm sure you might not ever be
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: the same. Like traumatic braining, he is like that. There's
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: people that never come back from those.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Right, that's nuts, It's nuts. That's nuts. Man. You just
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: can't go out. Yeah, especially if it's a if it's
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: a one on one fight, it's like, I don't I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: don't like that whole the ship talking back and forth,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: it's like fuck you know, fuck you. It's like, Okay,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: are we gonna what's gonna happen here? Like enough of this?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Are we gonna have fight? Is this a fight?
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Let's just do it and then get over with you know.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: One on one fights are stupid, get you killed, you know,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: it's people don't play by rules. It's dumb. It's almost
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: always unnecessary. Just most people, it's just their ego gets
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: involved and they think they're in a fucking movie, right,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: you know. And the amount of people that get in
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: street fights that have no training, to me, is the craziest.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I watched so many videos where guys don't know what
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: they're doing at all.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Right, they're just yeah, you're right. The ego gets involved
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: in it. They're in an argument and that transitions over
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: into physical. But I think half the guys maybe don't
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna go into the physical. They're just like
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: a sit talking.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you gotta don't do that.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: And and sometimes it doesn't and that's good, you know
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: what I mean or whatever. But like I mean, when
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: it does and you're not ready for it, it's can
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: be terrible.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: It's the worst thing in the world. There's a comic
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say his name, but he was
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: a real angry dude, always yelled at people. And he
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: got in this like yelling altercation with this fucking guy.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: And I pulled him aside and go, hey, well, what
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: the fuck are you doing?
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Do you even know how to fight? He's like no, no.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, have you ever been in a fight? He's
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: like no, no. I go, well, why why are you
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: calling this guy out to fight? This is crazy? Like
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get killed. You're gonna do it with some
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: guy one day and he's gonna go, oh, this is
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: gonna be fun.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: This guy.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, I finally get a chance to beat the shit
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: out of somebody. Some boxer or something. It's gonna just
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: beat your fucking face in, man, Like, don't do that.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: You don't want you want your jaw wired shut for
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: six months? Like what are you talking about?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Especially with the health insurance companies these days, bro, you
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: never know what they're gonna cover, what they're not gonna
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: not cover.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: How crazy you see the ben Askron thing?
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Yea? How crazy is It's? Nuts?
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Man? The guy needs a double lung transfer?
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, how can how can that not be covered?
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: How can that not become How can that happen in
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: our society? Exactly? Like what's going on?
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: It's profit over fucking humanity?
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: But how is it allowed to legally? How are they legally?
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know the ends and the outs of it,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: but like the legally allowed to be Like, no, we're
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: not covering that, you know. It's just like like the
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: idea of a pre existing condition was nuts to me.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: What kind of pre existing condition? I mean, he's got
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: health insurance, he gets sick, Like, what are you talking about?
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: He got Pneumonia's got holes in his fucking lungs, he
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: needs double lung transplant and you say no, you have
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: to die. Meanwhile, he gets the lug transplant. I think.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Actually Jake Paul donated a bunch of money to that,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: and some other folks did too, which is great because
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Jake Paul actually fought him in the past. They had
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: a boxing match together which should have never taken place.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Jake flatlined him.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Oh did he really be Askron is super tough man. Yeah,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: he's a very tough guy. He's not a boxer.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: It's never been known for having good hands. He was
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: an amazing wrestler. Yes, but Jake's stepped up and paid
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: a big chunk of his his medical bills.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: So he's training now again. He's posting videos and he's
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: you know, he weighs like one hundred and thirty five
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: pounds right now, and he's got this giant scar across
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: his chest. His arms are like sticks, and and he's
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: you know, on the bike working out again. And Ben's
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: trying to put weight back on and.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Just trying to rehab too. Yeah, trying to get his
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: body back right. Yeah, but I saw the I didn't
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: watch the whole videos, but his face looks really crazy.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he lost like thirty five pounds, you know, and
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: he was there for months just rotting away.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: It's just super tough. He was a super, super tough wrestler.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, the Bellotour days. If you go back and
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: watch him in the bellatur days, he would just dominate guys.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: They would have no clue as to what he was doing.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: He would take some of the best fighters in the
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: world and as soon as he grabbed the hold of them,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: they were fucked.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: And that guy had like was known to have a motor.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: He would never get tired. Yeah, he wrestled at Missouri.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I think my friend Greg Warren was an olive May.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: He's a great comic. Greg Warn Gregg unbelievable and uh,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I wrestled and everything, but he was Greg
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: was an All American. Yeah, he was a real legit rush. Yeah,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and uh he knows Askaring oh okay, And I met
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: him at Nationals one year.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I always wanted Askron to fight in the UFC long
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: before he did, and unfortunately, I think like he did
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: sort of the prime of his career in Bellatore and
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: no one got a chance to see it because that
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: was when he was at his best, when he was
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: fighting guys like Douglas Lima, who was another guy who
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: people forgot because he was fighting so much in Bellatore,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: but he was one of the best Walter Waits ever.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: He was one of the only guys to knock out
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: m VP. Wow Douglas Lim is a fucking beast man,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: and Ben Astron got a hold of him and just
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: ragged all. No kidding, Yeah, Khorushkov another guy, killer, fucking nasty,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: spinning back kick.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: He was nasty, nasty striker, ragged all.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Ben got a hold of him. Just he was just
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: throwing those guys around. They just gave him noogies. They
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: couldn't do shit. There's nothing they could do to him.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: That's really something. Yeah, they couldn't get up and he like,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I can't emphasize a guy who never gets tired. Yeah,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Like I always had to like pace out, like and
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: think about It's like how much energy is this? You
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: kind of have to subconsciously go how much energy is
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: this gonna take? Because I got to I got to
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: conserve my energy. It's like, that's just not a thing.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the guy. That's the difference between a guy
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: who's like constantly wrestling and doing it all of his
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: life and doing camps and starting when he was a
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: young boy. And also like his technique was so good.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: He's like so unorthodox as well, right, so efficient.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, efficient, so efficient with the energy is a
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: big thing. Oh that's huge. Yeah.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: I mean if a guy doesn't have to be tense
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: all the time, you know. But it's like this video
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: that I watched with Usak, it was very eye opening.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Was like, of course, of course he would do fifteen
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: rounds of three and a half minutes with a twenty
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: second rest, so he's preparing himself for a twelve round fight.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: He would do fifteen, but he would do three and
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: a half minute rounds and he would do twenty seconds
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: for rest, so one minute. Yeah, and if he uh,
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: if he touched his back to the ropes at any
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: point in time, he would add another round.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: That's nuts, that's great, that's really great, fucking I love that.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: It's like the loman Chanko. I didn't see the Usik one,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: but I saw how loman Chenko trained. Same yeah, the
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: same kind, yeah, exactly, and it's bananas, like the coordination.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: He quit boxing as a young kid to learn Russian dance. Well,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: that's why is insane. I would really like to have
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: seen him fight Shakur mm hmm, and uh, you know,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: these guys Tank and Hikor are great, but they were
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: calling him out and it was after I think Lomonchenko
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: was It's after he fought Hani and he was like,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of done. He fought Cambosis and then that
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: was he wrapped on that.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: I felt like he got robbed in the fight.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I thought so too. I thought he won that fight.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I thought he went.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: It was a bummer to me because it was like,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: this is kind of a great comeback story. The guy
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: fights for Ukraine in the war, comes back back into
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: shape right, fights again.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: And Haini's great, but he was much bigger than Lomo
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: was a he just looked very small. He looked like,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: you know, he was fighting at thirty five, but these
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: guys are cutting down from god knows where. Yeah, Haini's
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: fighting at forty seven now, so it's you know, you
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: could just see their builds. Yep, they look different.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different size, different size.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: But Shakour, I'm saying, Shakur is looks about the same
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: size as Lomo.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: A naturally skillful, super skillful.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was happy. I was happy his last.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: His last fight best Philly Shell since Floyd Miem.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. His fucking defense was incredible. Yeah, defense, and he
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: stayed and then that guy was putting the guy from
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: a Golden Boy I can't remember his name who he thought,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: but was just a good fighter and was really pressuring him,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: and Short stayed in the pocket. Yeah, he stayed in
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: the pocket because before he's not a runner.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he said after the fight, I'm not going
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: to fight that way anymore. He said it took too
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: many shots. Really, yeah, because he wanted to like put
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: on a show and show everybody he's not just a runner.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: He could stand in the pod and then he's like,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: why am I doing this?
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I'll box the shit out of these mother Yeah I
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: mean that guy.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh he's elite. He's elite and just one of
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: the best. Like it's as far as skill.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: What do you think a Crawford canelo? I love it?
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Do you? Yeah? I love it? See, I don't.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Holford wants to do it.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: I don't love it. I think it's Crawford's last fight,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm happy he's gonna cash out and I'm rooting
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: for him, but I would like to see him stay
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: at fifty four and fight Virgil Ortiz.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see that too, but the big money
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: is Canelo, and why not do it? I mean, what
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: a ballsy move. You go forty seven to fifty four
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: and you go up fuck sixty, you go right up
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: to sixty eight. That's crazy because he's really not even
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: a fifty four. He's taken the fight at fifty four.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: He took modre Mo because it was a big fight.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Wins another world title, right.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: And he won that fun. People are like trying to
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: descrye like he fough. First of all, Terrence fought great. Yeah,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Matt Drumons is great. It's and fought him differently than
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: he fought every other guy. Yeah, because he did fighting differently.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: He's dangerous.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: And Master is a great athlete. Anybody who does a
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: backflip in the in the ring, like that guy, he's
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: a great athlete. And and he is like, uh, these
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Eastern block fighters always have like seven, they're like seven
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: and oh and it looks like nothing. It's like, but
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: he has four hundred amateur fights.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Exactly like Arthur Betterbeeve perfect example, he had like three
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: hundred amateur fights. So Lomachenko they have hundreds of amateur
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: fights by the time they get to the professional ranks, like, yeah,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: this isn't a regular one to oh guy, now, these
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: are these are guys that just they can do stuff
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: that you can't even imagine being.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Able to do. They're unreal. So who do you have
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: in the fight?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I would listen, it's gonna be great. It's gonna be
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: a great fight. You're dealing with two all time greats.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Crawford is one of the best switch hitters I think
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: since Marvin Hagler and one of the most skillful boxers alive.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: And then you have Canelo, who probably isn't the same
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: guy as he was just like a few years ago,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: but still one of the greatest of all time, still
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: has brutal knockout power, you know. I mean if you
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: go back to like some of his you know, like
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: more impressive fights from a few years ago, like like
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: the Amir con Ko, you know, like the Billy Joe
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Saunders ko like those, Like he's probably not that guy anymore, Yeah,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: but he's still he's still young enough that he's still
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: like pretty close to his prime and one of the
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: best of all time.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see him fight David Benavitez. Oh yeah,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: And I think that the WBC should have forced it
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: that fight. I know he's the he's the draw of boxing,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and he's the face of boxing and all that stuff,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: but it says a lot that he can't You can't
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: let the inmates run the asylum for lack of a
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: better craze. You have to force the fight. Patrick Mahomes
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: comes into a football season, he doesn't automatically go to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, right, He's got to play every game and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: if he loses enough game, he has to go on
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: the road in the playoffs. It's like the WBC should
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: have forced, yeah, Canelo to fight David Benavidez, because that's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: not fair that David Benavitz has to go up to
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: seventy five now and he has to wait to see
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the winner of the better Beef bivol fight.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was the fight. The fight I mean
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: for Mexican bragging rights too, you know.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: And what a great fight. And in no way do
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I think that Canalo was afraid of him or anything.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: He's just trying to maneuver his career with the least
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: risk and the most money.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: And the most money I think he said he wanted
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: to fight him, but he wanted like two hundred million
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: dollars or something crazy like that.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, but your mandator, it's your mandatory defense at
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: sixty eight, it's your mandatory. How do you choose. I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: know you're the face of boxing, but how do you choose?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: The WBC got to force that man.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe the Saudis will cough up that money eventually,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Like maybe he beats Crawford and then they say, listen,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: like Turkey Alashik decides, what does this say? Devid Benavidz.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: They offered Canelo seventy million to fight me, that's before
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: pay per view. They offered me a flat fee of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: five million. I said yes. Then we never heard back.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy. But you know, maybe for him, seventy
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: million is not the number he wanted. Maybe he thinks
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: the South he's will give him two hundred. They might
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: look if he beats Crawford, that might be the move.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: But it speaks to how boxing is organized. Yeah, that's true,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, it's goofy. It's like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: not organized. It's it's it wants to be respected as
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: a sport, but it's not organized that way. Well, there's
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: so many sanctioning bodies, you know. Yeah, I say clean
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: them out, Yeah, clean out those sanctioning bodies.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: It's run title because if someone's offering someone a world
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: title fight, they can make so much more money as
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: a world champion, you know, like you win the WBO.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Let's say, like canew vacates some titles and the guy
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: picks it up, He's still a WBO champion or a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: WBC champion or WBA or IBF or IBO. But that's
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: the problem is that there's so many world champions, whereas
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: an MMA, like you can be a Bellotour world champion,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: but everybody knows you're not really the world champion unless
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: you're the UFC World champion. In terms of public perception.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: There's guys I think that were Belotor champions that could
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: have won in the UFC at that same weight class,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: and these guys that did, like Eddie Alvarez came over
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: from Bellatore, he was a world champion and he won
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: the world title in the UFC. Guys did it. But
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: the reality is most people think of a world champion
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: as a UFC champion, but in boxing, the WBA champion
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: has thought exactly the same way as the WBC champion.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Depends on who it is, right, you know what I mean,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Like if you like Tyson has if it was Mike
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Tyson in the early days and he had the WBC
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: belt and you had a WA belt, you weren't the champion.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Mike Tyson was the champion. Everybody knew it. But other
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: than those kind of examples, you know, where there's one
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: guy that's just the ultimate in that weight class. A
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: world championship is worth a lot of money. So it's
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: hard for guys to say no and just say, look,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I'm only going to fight for the Ring Magazine belt.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: That's what the Saudis own, and they're gonna make everybody
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: fight everybody. It's gonna be the most amount of money.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Because I think that's what they're kind of angling towards.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Structuring it differently. Yeah, because that's what needs I mean,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, that's what needs to happen. He's that's
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: a structure differently, and there needs to be like the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: fights need to be forced, and you know what, you
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: have to let go of the draw a little bit, like, well,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: this fight is not gonna it doesn't matter if it
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: draws or not. We need this fight to happen so
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: that we can get the best champion. Yes, you know
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: what I mean, So we can get the real champion here.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter if it's not technically a good matchup.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: It has to be forced.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: It means something. To be the number one contender, it
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: means But then if you do that, you never get
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: fights like Tyson Fury Versus Francis and Gano. Right, you
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: only get those fights, those fun fights if someone's like, Okay,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: let's just try.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: This, right, But I think that's what they're like prop fights.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I call him that, But like
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: what Floyd is doing now, whether he's like he kind
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: of deserves to do that, Like he's like outside, he's retired,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: and he's like I'm putting on these fights and if
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: he can get paid for him, good for him. Yeah
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But that's outside of what
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: we consider real competition.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is different because Floyd's fifty, right, this
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: is a different thing.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: But when you're talking about and.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: What Jake is doing too, what Jake Paul is doing too,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: He's like, I challenge this guy, and it's like that's fine,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: and that's fun, right, but is that the highest level
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: of if he fought Better Beef or the Anthony Joshua
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: thing is crazy to me too, But it's like, if
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: he fought Better Beave, it's like, yeah.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Better Beef fight, that would be the fight that would
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: be fun to watch because you can't run from Better Beef.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: He's terrifying. Now, he's terrifying. Forty two technically sound. These
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: guys are all older because of their amateur careers.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean Usik's thirty eight, which is
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: also crazy. He's in his prime at thirty eight. But
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I think a big part of that. It speaks to
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: his discipline that he stays in such insane shape kusick. Yeah,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: he doesn't let himself and Better Beef as well. There's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: some amazing videos of Better Beef, very similar kind of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: training methods. Like it's Russians and Ukrainians and you know,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Better Beef Chechtian.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: It's like these guys stand Muslim, doesn't drink, disciplined lifestyle.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: And then it's funny because they asked these guys about
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: who's your favorite box. He's like, I really don't watch it.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: This is my job. This is my job. Is my job.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I call him. I do my job. I go home
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: to my family.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Crazy. You don't watch boxing.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: You don't watch boxing. That's nuts. One of the best ever.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: You know, who's the kid, who's the Denver Nuggets guy,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: who's the he's another guy who says that after they
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: won the NBA championship. Yo, kitch, he's another guy. He
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: won the NBA Championship. He's like, nah, it's fun, it's fun.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: We celebrate and they go home with my family. Now
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think about basketball.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: He doesn't even get emotional when he wins. But his
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: horse won and he broke down crying. Oh, just see
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: it there. It is mostly celebrates after his horse wins
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: a rat. So, his horse won a race, and he's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: fucking crying. He's like, this is the greatest thing of
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: all time. Look at him, be so happy, so happy.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: So if you want when they had him in the stand,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: there's a video of him at the end.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Of it, that bad video.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: But guys, yeah, that's not a video. That's it's not
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: the same video. But so when his horse did win,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: he was like crying and so happy.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I meanwhile, meanwhile he wins. It's like something he's been
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: working for his whole life.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know, maybe that's a secret of success.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: He stays zen about it.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Well, they look at it like it's a job. They
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: prepare mentally, and these guys are very mentally tough. Yeah,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: and they prepare for it like a job, and then
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: they go and do the job and they're like, this
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: isn't my life. It kind of it kind of dials
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: back some of the ego on it, which I like, yeah,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like I'm this guy.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: It's like now I'm doing this and then when I retire,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I'll just be a guy. Yeah. No one thinks about
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: that in America. Everybody's like, now I'm gonna I'm gonna go.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: And I get it, you know.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: It's like I'm gonna go to the next thing. Maybe
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: I can, you know, parlay this into something else or
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: a vitamin water, Yeah, I can have a cologne, you
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like it's like they're trying
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: to parlay it into something else to make more money. Yeah.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, these guys they have the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: eye of the tiger. Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: We played a few times on this podcast Serbian basketball
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: when they play basketball in Serbia and how the crowd
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: is and you're like, oh my god, this is like
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: you're stepping into a fucking gang war. It's the crowds
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: are so electric. They're so into it, like like aggressively
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: into it. They're like, dude, these people from that part
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: of the world are hard people. And when they're coming
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: over here, they're dominating in m m a, they're dominating
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: in boxing. That's a tough part of the war. It's
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: been racked by war for hundreds of years. What is this, Jamie,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: This is Serbia brothers starting fires? What are they doing it?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Fla.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: They're outside outside, bro, they have outside basketball games. That's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: pretty wild too.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: It's like, look at this fucking crowd, dude. It's just nuts.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: How how hyped up they get. Wow. Yeah, bro, it's
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: a different world.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: It's so funny. People go the Eagles fans are really tough.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, how about these guys.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever seen that game that they play.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: I think it's called calcio storico. Calcio Storico. It's like
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: a combination of rugby and mma, and they do it
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: in Italy, and they do it at a couple other places.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: They do it in they do in Croatia.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: So I think I did see that.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: But it's fighting. So they get together as teams and
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: they've got a ball. I don't know what the fucking
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: deal is with the ball, but they beat the fucking
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: piss out of each other animals, like animals. Look at
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: that guy, he's rubbing his hands together. I can't wait
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: to fucking brain somebody. And so these guys stand outside
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: each other and they're having gang fights like this is
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the end. There's a ball involved. I
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: don't understand the need for this ball, but look while
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: these guys, while that ball's moving around, these guys in
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: the middle are just beating their ship out of each other.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: They're wrestling, they're fucking shooting takedowns, bodies, slamming each other's elbows,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: of the face on the ground.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: It's nuts.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: It's the craziest fucking game. Like this is back when
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: people needed something to do in between war. You know,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: they needed something to stay sharp, and so they developed
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: a game to make their fucking war ability hone tight
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: while they you know, ramp up their team. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: It's probably how cool people dress back when they invented this.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting. I wonder how they if they're scoring
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: for the individual fights that they're having.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: What are you say, Jamimes, someone scored point?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no point.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: There's no point. Who's got the ball?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: What's happening?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: These guys are just beating each other out and this
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: guy's grabbing a hold of the fence. There you're allowed
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: to hold the fence. There's like almost no rules.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Someone scores here about like did they win the fight
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: or did they get the goal?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I don't think they care about the ball.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: I think they want to punch you in the face.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy game.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: Well it's three to two, gets.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Taken down out of nowhere, he's nowhere near the ball.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: This guy's mounting him, beating his ass, and the guy
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: runs across with the ball. I only know the other
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: stupid shorts. They weren't tights and ship like the the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: clothes they wear ridiculous. Was that guy got something stuck
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: to his back like a needle? Look at his back?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's got like a piercing like a It
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: looks like a fucking.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Like a pin. There's no one stopping the fight either,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: so this must be part of it.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got like a safety pin through his back.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: He's the captain of the team.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: You got to pull that off to win. This is
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: not something I mean, it seems like you just kind
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: of grab that. It was a crazy ass sport man.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: And look, while these guys are mounted on top of
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: each other while the game's going on, guy's got guys
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: inside control.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: It's chaos, full contact soccer. Yeah.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Look, this guy's running and the other guy just mounts
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: him starts beating his ass.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: It's kind of entertaining.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking for sure entertaining. It's violent, violence is in it.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: But well, look all these guys in the middle that
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: are even stopping this guy fro run because they're too
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: busy mounting people. And he gets through.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: All right, that guy scored.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Oh you look at he did it, Casual Nutty asked game.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: But that's the point. It's like little people from that
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: part of the world. They've been involved in some wild
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: shit for a long time. Long time.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: That's Europe, is it Europe?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Well, that is in Florence, I believe that's Italy. But
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: I know, like I said, they do it, they do
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: that in Croatias. Well, that same sport. It's just hard
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: people out there in the world. While we're all arguing
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: over pronouns.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: We're arguing with each other on So that's really funny.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: It's like arguing with each other on Twitter and those
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: guys are doing that. That's what Twitter would look like
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: if it was physical.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of a lot of guys crying, are you
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: on the Twitter? Do?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: I used to use off of it? I'm off of it,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: but I used to write jokes on it, and now
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: it's like just so that doesn't benefit you to write
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: jokes on it anymore. Now it's confrontation is what the
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: algorithm loves. So unless you're trying to at least the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: way that that's the way I view it. It's like,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: unless you're trying to take somebody down or have an argument,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: that spurs the algorithm. So I don't want to do
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: any of that.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nonsense.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: I'm focused on front facing Instagram videos now, front facing, Yeah,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: you do. You talk into your phone? That's what people love?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Now is that what you're doing. I have to I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: have to do it to promote my shows. Well, the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: Osbourne death is crazy, right, guys, Prince of Dodness. It's
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: comment on stuff. Comment. It's kind of like what Twitter was,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's always changing. And you hear
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: that this is what is getting views, and yeah, you're
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: trying to sell tickets. I get it, I get it,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: but I mean I'm glad I have to do it. Yeah,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: well I put stand up clips. Stand up clips is
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: really my bread and butter.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: Oh that's the big thing. Yeah, a great stand up
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: clip will push you right into headliner. And if you're
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: a beginning comic, like even before you're ready. Those guys
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: that are like like you know, they start out, they've
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: been doing comedy for three years, They've got a good
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: ten minutes, and they put that ten minutes online and
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: then boom they take off. Now you have to write
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: a whole hour right outside of that ten minutes, and
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: you have to headline. Like it's just a rush job
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: to kind of get it through.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: But you have to figure out how to fill that space.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Everybody has different challenges. So the guys who do that,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: then they're filling clubs and now they got to figure
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: out how to get people their money's worth in those
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: yeah clubs, you have to construct a real hour. You
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: have to construct an hour or like say you got
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: famous off crowd work or something. It's like that's mostly
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: what you're doing. Then crowd work.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: That's different that you can do, Like that's pretty easy,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: not easy, but you can fill time. Whereas like if
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: you're the hardest for me, I think not for me,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: but I don't do it. But the hardest, in my opinion,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: is guys, you know, guys like Stephen Wright, right right,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: like that kind of thing, like one absurd non secutor
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: into another.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: There's no like through line right right right.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: It's all just like things that are totally unrelated. Here's
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: another thing I noticed, you know, and.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: So hard to write an hour that way, Oh my god.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: Like I think Stephen Wright and the other one was
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: Mitch Hedberg. It's a very similar style, right, non sequiturs.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Fantastic, too amazing, but very hard and time consuming to
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: put an hour together.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. I mean you have to write if
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: you're doing that.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: But those clips, I mean, those clips do well, you know,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: if you put work into the clip. The trick of
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: it is developing the material fast enough. In order to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: put it out. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: like that you're not coming that every you're not coming
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: up with that every day. And I don't know if
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: the general public realizes that you're almost better off loot
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: for online loosely talking about a subject and putting that
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: up rather than really sitting in the pocket and developing
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: it the way that we do.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Right, because it's a lot of times like it's a
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: well the guys are like really good at ranting, Like
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Burr is really good at it and Tim Dillon's the
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: best at it. Yeah, where they just take a subject
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: in rant. That's a great premise factory because you're going
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: on these rants for you know, with Dylan, he'll do
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: a RNT for like an hour, right, a couple of
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: minutes in there you can probably develop into material, right,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: and then you're.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Doing that all the times. But the thing is you
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: have to stop. And that's the thing with journaling. People
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: like you should journal, and I tried it. I try
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: a different technique like get up and just journal. Don't
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: worry about the jokes, just journal every day. So you're
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: journaling every day and it's like now you have a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: lot of premises, but none of it's developed, so you
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: can't journal every day. Then when you have like a
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: week of journaling, it's like now you have to go
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: back through the journal and you have to see what's
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: you have to pull it out and then develop these ideas.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: When you say journaling, so you sit down and write,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: you write about your life, you write about okay.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: Right about your life, or if like you write about
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: a topic that you're interested in, that's that's that's gnawing
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: at you. But there's so many funny or potentially funny
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: things that happen to you every day that if you
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: would just journal, you bring it to light and you
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: But if you don't journal, it's kind of like these
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: things just they slip away. But if you journal, and
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh that was funny, that was funny. Just
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: just getting on a plane now is hilarious. You know,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: there's so many different things and you interact with so
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: many different just these small interactions with people, and it's
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: just it's you know, something that could go south. You
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: know it could go south, it could be okay, and
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: I got off the plane coming here. It just gets
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: me every time it happens. Almost every time I travel.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: I think I'm drawing it. To me, it's like there's
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: a natural progression of how the plane deboords. It's like
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: people from the seats, they just get off the plane
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: according to where your seat is. You're getting off first.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: If you're closer to the entrance of the plane. That's
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: the way it's designed to go. There's always somebody who runs,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: gets their bag and runs to the front of the plane,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: and you're like, what are you doing, dude? We all
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: want to get off. Unless you have a connecting flight,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: we all want to get off. What are you doing?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: I know people get mad at those people. There was
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: a video recently where a lady did that and people
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: were yelling at her.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it turns into a great clip. Somebody videos
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: it and it's an altercation and it turns into a viral.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: How about that lady that said that, like someone on
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: the plane wasn't real? Remember that shape shifting? Yes, I
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: bet she's a lot of fun. I bet that lady's
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: I bet she's great. She's really fun. At parties, it's
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: like there's an imaginary person and then they're like, there
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: was no imagining person. I was having a bad day.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Not just imaginary person, but yell it out in the
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: middle of a plane that's in the sky. Was it
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: already in the sky or she get kicked off the
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: plane was on the ground. Yeah, I think it was
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: it before was it in the sky?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: I think it was.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Imagine you're on.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: The plane with a lady that says that someone's not real,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: and you go, Okay, one of two things is going
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: on here. Either she's nuts or I'm in a horror movie, right,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: because if she's right, you know, and then like you
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: look back, you're like, hey, what's going on with that
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: guy's skin? He's like it starts to burst in and
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: fucking separating him. It's like John Carpenter's the thing, Like fuck.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Turns out she was right, he wasn't real. He was
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: morphing into something else.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the odds of that are very small, but in
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: movies it's very high.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's hard. You gotta take it with
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: a great of salt.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: She might be right. Imagine she was right, Oh God,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: and you have to find out and there's no communication
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: on a plane. The plane just goes in the middle
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: of the ocean. There's a fucking person who turns to
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: an insect on board, it starts attacking everybody, or a
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: chest burster like from that movie Alien.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Fuck, why did it have to be me? Anything could happen,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: and then nobody believes it. No one believes it.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it becomes a conspiracy theory that people
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: like autistic people obsess about on the internet. They know
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: what happened, and then but.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: That's a good they never follow up with what actually
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: happened to her. What's her life like now?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: She's on a podcast with Gregor.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: She's popping up in his place. She was on barstool
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: doing stuff there for a while.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, but she's doing something with Conor McGregor.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: That's why I brought her.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he posted her today that she's gonna be able to.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: H Maybe she could do something with the Hawk two girls,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Maybe maybe they could because
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: her career has kind of.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Maybe they could both go to Goza and solve all
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: the food problems. They can figure it out.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people on it.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: She's going to the end that he owns.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: I think it's just like, you know, like an appearance
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: or something like that.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: She does appearances.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: She's she's been on the internet now that was That's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: very funny.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: That's very funny. She complained about somebody disappearing, and now
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: she's doing appearance.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: Robbie sells better than Joe liszt travesty.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: She's described as a marketing executive too. So I wow,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: that that was fake?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: But crazy lady. After she had a meltdown a flight
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, what did she say?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: She saw?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: That's I was reading through it because there's a They
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: did do a follow up here where there's there's police.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Is that her down there?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Oh? She's hot?
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: Why does she not? Why does she always?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: That always helps?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Look at that the initial photo of her start at
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: the top.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: How does that become? Scroll down? How does become that?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: That looks like a different person? Scroll down? Though?
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Lost some weight, tighten everything up. She's making the best
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: out of it. Okay, So what is she saying?
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: No, I mean different.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: That's in the spotlight. She's remained in the spotlight since,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: appearing on podcast, YouTube shows and giving tours of her
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: sleek Texas home. Oh she's Texas crazy. Even better, even better,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: that's armed crazy.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: Here is when it actually happened, and they followed her
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: out and I was trying to read through here.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: So what was she saying? I don't care if I
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: ever fly with y'all again. I just want to know
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: what happens to this flight here.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. All's crazy.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do not let that flight leave. This flight's not
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: going to make it to our Lando, it's not going
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: to Looking out the windows as they escored her, Goma says,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of people on that flight, Like so
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: she really believes that there's something on that flight. Maybe
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: she took an edible, maybe someone slipped her a mickey,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: Like what did she say she saw?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: I know that she was smart enough for a while
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: to milk it and tell you, like, you know, I'll
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: tell you on this next podcast. What was really That?
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Motherfucker's not real, she said. And she's thirty eight, so
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: it's like a milf milf kind of crazy.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Imagine if you're the guy she's saying that you're not real,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: and you're just right there, right, just chill, You're not real.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: It's like chilling with a hoodie on trying to watch
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: a YouTube video on your phone. This fucking crazy bitch
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: just screaming at you.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: That's a great that's a great story. That's what I
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: talk about journaling. What if you sit next to her
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: on a plane she flips out, so you're not real?
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Gift that would be if you could tell the audience
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: that you were a guy that was on the flight
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: with that motherfucker's not real lady.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: Here's the quote she said, which is, I thought the
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: plane was going to blow up.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, why I'm getting the fuck off. And there's
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: a reason why I'm getting the fuck off. That motherfucker
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: back there is not real. You can sit on this
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: plane and you could fucking die with them or not.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to like what who's not real? Who's
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: the guy?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, motherfucker could have been let her out.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: There talking to the cops. Look at her, she's got
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: her she's I don't think she got arrested. I think
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: she calmly explained to the cops that someone wasn't real.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: Oh that's so funny.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Who's the guy? Though? I want to know who the guy?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: That's the guy we should be interviewing, like she's just
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: trying to She appears more lucid at this point, but
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: remains combative with officers. One says to her, I can
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: tell you're having a bad day. We're not trying to
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: make it any worse, to which she responds, my dad's
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: a cop. Fuck you, dude, that's nothing to do with that.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: My dad's a cop.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: I love that she got into the evidence room.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: Jack. There's something something happened there. That's very funny. I
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: want to know who the guy is.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: She could have been saying, motherfucker, not as a person
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: could have been point. I don't know. You know, the plane,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: the back of the plane is not real. Something there's
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: not real.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: She I might never fly again. It's like threatening us.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: It might not be your choice, gonna take the bus.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: Who's gonna put you on a plane? When you said that,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: someone's not.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: The incident something about her iPod airpod's losing, and she
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: accused someone of stealing them. I don't know. Then it
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: just doesn't fall.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: That could be somebody, Oh, that could be. That actually
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: makes some sense where it's like that someone stole her
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: her not the plane.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: Was gonna crash because someone stole her. It doesn't make
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: any sense. Well, she's saying the plane is going to
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: go down. They're not going to live.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna die because.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Someone stole her eye iphon iPods.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: No, that makes any sense. She's cookie, she's fun. Yeah,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: that's very fun.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she probably gets on tables at bars, you know
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Yes, probably one of them.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: She's successful. Now, Oh she's the girl at the comedy club.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: It's my birthday.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she'd be the best in the front row.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: You would, you'd be so happy. Oh my god, she's
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: gonna come to your shows now.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: No, but that's it's really something. It's a it's reflective
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: of our society, is that she parlayed that into some
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: level of fame. I'm sure she has a podcast. I'm
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: sure she has all kinds of like you know, that's
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: her character.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Now McGregor is instagramming about her today, So there you go. Yeah,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: the Hawk to a girl, I mean she made it
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: all the way to a pump and dump, Hawk to
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: a coin. Metzker talk about it. He's got the fucking
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: best bit about it, about the Hawk to a coin.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: I saw him last night. Though.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: He's such a lunatic. I love that dude. He's so funny.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: He's just so nuts. But he had just like like who.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Would have thought?
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: Who would have thought that would be a rip off?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: The Hawk to a coin, like if you.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Just he was connecting Taylor Swift to Epstein last night.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: I saw him last night. He's like, Taylor Swift, you
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: don't think that there's something in the lights at those
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: concerts that make you have amnesia. I'm like, Kurt, I don't.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Kurt, but he's done here for twenty years. No, no, no, serious, Yeah,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: he's connected. He's connected. And then and then Tommy Pope,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: you know I love tom Lights give you amnesia? This
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: is yeah, he brought it up. I said, no, no, Kurt,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: I never I said, Kurt, I never heard of that,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: and he goes, no, no, it's real, it's and then
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: he brought it up on his phone and sure enough
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: it was honest. It was the lights. They pay hundreds
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: of dollars for these tickets, and then the lights at
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift concert make you forget that you were
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: at a concert. They make you have amnesia. How is
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: that possible? I don't know. What's even crazier to me
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: is how he connected it to Ebstein. But he did it.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: Transient global amnesia. Taylor Swift fans report post concert forgetfulness.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe the playing girl wasn't wasn't wrong. But here's my
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: take on this.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: She is in this rare air right now, like the Beatles,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: like Elvis in his prime, where it's an emotional experience
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: being in her presence. If you're a Taylor swiftye those
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: fans are die hard. She sells out stadiums, multiple shows
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: in stadiums, right. I think it's probably so emotional for
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: them when they're standing in front of her and she's
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: singing that. Afterwards, they're so spent and racked. They're probably like,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: what happened? It's probably like such.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: A Yeah, the Beatles, the Beatles that effect on Elvis.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: The women would crying and shaking, they'd faint.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson in his prime, they'd fain. People would faint
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: if they saw him live, they'd faint.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: That's interesting, that's way more like what about the light?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: But what about the lights causing seizures?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: Guarantee you I go to that fucking concert and I
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: come out with a perfect memory. Okay, not that I
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: don't like Taylor Swift.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: I I like some of her songs. I really do.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: One of our songs is on Nobody, No Crime. It's
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: a great fucking song. It's on our Spotify playlist.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: But it wouldn't cause you to have any show.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: I'd be fine. I'd be fine. I'd say, what a
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: great show. She's really talented. I wouldn't go what happened,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: what happened, But I'll tell you what. I did see
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: the Rolling Stones when they were at Coda, and I
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: felt like.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: I was on a drug.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't feel like it was real, Like when
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: they went out onto that stage, Mick Jagger's on that stage,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: button your lap, baby, like you're like, I can't believe
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: he's real. I was standing there with my friend Bobby,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: who owns the racetrack, and I was going, I don't
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: feel like I'm really here. This feels like a drug.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: This feels crazy, Like I'm watching Mick Jagger and Keith
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Richards and they're live right there. It's like, and there's
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: like one hundred thousand people. It's a huge fucking crowd.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is nuts, man, this feels fake.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: So I'm probably not. I'm a giant Rolling Stones fan,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: but I'm probably not as big a Rolling Stones fan
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: as these Swifties are. Like they're her god or she's
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: their god.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: Rather like you go to see if that had to
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: be enough of a thing to warrant an article on
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: the internet.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's somebody that yell wanted that started a
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: study on I'm trying to see.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: If, of course, I want to know what they do.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: Are they a gender studies professor? What kind of scholarship
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: have you got to to get that position? Do you
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: have it to have a certain heritage? It's profitable?
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? But yeah, I didn't think it
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: was a thing either. Man. Kurt is like, Kurt's a
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: great comic man. He's so so funny and he's great.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: But it's like five minutes into the conversation, I'm like,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: I don't even Kurt, I don't know what you're saying.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know where I don't know what this is.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Is a CIA plant? Everybody is like, uh, they've you've
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: been put there by the Rockefellers. Or I'm so glad
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: he and I are friends and we've been friends for
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: so long that he doesn't think I'm some sort.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Of a plant.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: That would be a real problem.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: That would be something if Kurt leans in on me,
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: I really think, certainly, Oh you don't.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: Think, yeah, oh, you don't think Oh, you don't think.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: You don't know. You don't know about the thing that
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: happened in seventy three. You don't know about the Kitschinger thing.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: It's a Kissinger thing. You don't know. It's hard.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know any of this.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: I can't. I tell him Sometimes before I go on stage,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I have to be on stage of five minutes.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: I can't do that right now, I can't do this.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: I'll be in my head with what you said. What
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: the fuck is going on?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Is he right? I'll be googling ship.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: This is true.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Hey, Kurt, I love you, but not right now.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: I tell you, he'll fucking corner you, dude. He'll corner you,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: and he looms over you, big Google.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Six five, Kurt six five. And then he went on
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: stage and destroyed last It destroyed in the funniest way.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: It's like completely original.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: He's completely He's gonna do a special infilment at the club.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: I'm very great, very excited about that. He's the man.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: We got a great crew down here. It's really fun.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: I was there last night. Man, that was awesome. How
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: many Daisy in town for I'm out now, you're out now, tonight. Yeah. Nice,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna come back and try to do some
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: more podcast.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Cool, yeah cool. And yeah there's a lot here now.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: A lot of people are here now, don't Kntroscle's here now.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: But I've headlined the club several times and I love
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: it every time. Then it's fun. Actually, every time I'm here,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's the best man.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: I'm very happy. That makes me very happy. That's what
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: we wanted to do, and I feel super lucky that
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: we pulled it off. It's hard to do, you know,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of things have to line up perfectly to
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: be able to get.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: A call back up. Yeah, it's a lot of the staff.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: That's a huge part of it. But you could you
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: could tell it was designed by a comic the club,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, designed by me, but also with a lot of
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: input from everybody else, Like Hinchcliffe had a lot of input,
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: Luis c k had a lot of input, Brian Simpson
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: had a lot of input, all all the guys that
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: are regulars at the club, Ron White, everybody had their say.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: Like I was, I basically said, I don't have like
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: an absolute fixed position on anything. You could tell me
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: what you think, right, right, and so a lot of
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: the stuff, like the lights inside the green room. When
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: the light goes on, that's fantastic for each room, so
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: you know who's got the light the time, the time
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: that someone's on stage, both from the stage and from
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: the green room all that. Like I think the lights
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: were Tony's idea. I think the time might have been
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: Simpson's idea. So it's all like everybody had their own
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: say in what what we do. Louis told me to
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: lower the ceiling in the little room and in the
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: big room.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: I did that.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: He told me to make the stage smaller in the
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: little room. I did that, Like I did whatever anybody said,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: Like Louis like, you need more sound deadening, you should
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: put carpet down. Forget about the bounce that you get
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: from the loudness of the echo does make it louder,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: but it also makes it a little hard to hear
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: what you're saying. Like you're right, and so we did everything.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: Everybody wanted, every suggestion.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: The acoustics in the low ceilings are Kidi man everything, everything,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: the crispness of what you're saying, especially if you're like
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: a softer spoken guy and you're following somebody who's like
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: a yeller. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to just
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: the sound. But it's still it's like the crispness matters.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: It's got to be clear.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: And you know, it took us a while to dial
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: everything in the right volume. And you know, the lighting,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: so the light was like sometimes the audience be lit
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: up a little bit too much, like now you gotta
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: darken that. You gotta do that. It took a little while,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: but once we dialed it in, man, it's been pretty
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: smooth for like when we were going on. It'll be
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: our third year in March.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's like seems like it just happened.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: And the Big Room is great. It's great to headline that.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: But I just popped in at the Small Room last
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: night and that's that's really great. It's one of the
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: best rooms in the world, you know what I mean,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: to work out, like you can really you really have
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: the freedom to sit there and like play with and
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: work out the material. And that's kind that's really what
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: you need. You need like you need an experimental place
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: where you can fail a little.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: Bit, well, you can fuck around, yeah, and that that
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: little room is like the Chamber of Truth, because like,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: if you've got some bullshit in your act and there's
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: only one hundred people in the room, it seems obvious.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: You're like you, but that's like the old Boston Comedy
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Club in New York. Oh remember that place exactly, So
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: it's like the last days of the Boston there, it
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: looks it's like a log cabin in the back, you know,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: and then there's like, you know, during the winter time
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: when I first got there two thousand and four, it's
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: like there be four people, five people, you know, comics
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: would bo people in and it's like you had to oh, yeah.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: In the belly room, the belly room at the store.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: Have you ever done that? Yes, the belly room was amazing,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: So good for that, because belly room, I think is
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: really only supposed to have like seventy people in it,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: and a lot of times it's way over that, right,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: especially for roast battle. Like they'd do roast Battle sometimes
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: and I'd be in the kitchen. I'm like, is anybody
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: ever checked to make sure this fucking ceiling can support
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: all those folks? Because the people would jump around and
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: you would like it, you'd hear it like, oh would
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: suck of this caved in because that fucking building is
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: so old. Yeah, I mean that building. Our building's even
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: older at the Mothership, but at least it's been like
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: rebuilt that building at the store that was Cero's nightclub
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen fifties, right when was Cero's, and then
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: it was the Comedy Store from the seventies. So like,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: nobody's like check the seat, those beams are any good.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: I've kind of.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: Fucking termites and shit eaten through because at one point
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: in time, the wall, the back wall behind it was
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: in danger, yeah, because the hill was collapsing, and so
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: they had a reinforce with like steel rebar and giant
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: beams and shit.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: It's funny because if something did happen, everybody would think
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: it was a prank. They would go, oh, this is uh,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: this has got to be some kind of a It's like, no,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: this this ceiling actually.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: So in nineteen forty, Ciros became a popular night spot
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: for celebrity nineteen forty nightclub closed in nineteen sixty, was
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: reopened as a rock club in sixty five after a
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: few name changes, became the Comedy Store. In seventy two.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: Wow Club Seville. Was that what it was before Club Seville?
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: So was Club Seville in nineteen thirty five. It opened
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: New Year's Even nineteen thirty five. It featured a crystal
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: dance floor with a subsurface with subsurface fish so fish
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: earned the dance floor, fountains and colored lights in its
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: crystal marine room. The building was remodeled. In January nineteen forty,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: Cereals was opened.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: Crazy, that's not a lot of people were whacked in
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: that place and.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: No renovations have been done since it was bug It.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: Was Buggy Seagel's joint, the thing, Like every people got
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: whacked in that place. That's why a lot of people
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: believe that it's haunted.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Oh that's that's really It's got a weird.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: Energy to it, man. Yeah, that place has.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: The weird history energy.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the weirdest, the weirdest energy.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: You know. That's that's awesome. Man.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: It's got history. Yeah yeah, massive, massive.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: History in that building, like you feel in the walls.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: I believe that it sounds like what is that Jimmy Hendrix,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. Sixty five Seeros reopened as the Rock
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: Club Cereals, ledisc Ike and Tina Turner performed at the
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: newly opened club with Jimmy Hendrix as part of their
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: band Holy Shit Man. The Birds got their start at
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: Zero's in nineteen sixty five. Accounts of the period reproducing
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: the sleeve notes to the Pre Flight Sessions box set
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: described a church like atmosphere with interpretive dancing ill The
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: club also served as the host during the recording of
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five Dick Dale album Rock Out with Dick
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: Dale and his Dell Tones. Boy people were lame before
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: the Internet.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: God, look at the other two names for it, the Kaleidoscope,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: It's Boss, oh, Kaleidoscope in sixty eight, and then it
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: was called is its Boss in sixty nine and known
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: as the Patch Oh in sixty nine it was known
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: as the Patch two and then the Store from seventy
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: two wow until present.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because comedy was done in like jazz clubs and stuff, right,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: like poetry readings.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: You know, the oldest comedy club in the country is.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: No, the ice House. Is it really ice House in Pasadena?
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: Not know that?
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the ice House in Pasadena was. Oh, it was
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: like the oldest running club. So it was like, I
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: think it was a music club at first, and then well,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: at first it started I was an actual ice house.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: Back when people didn't have freezers. You would get a
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: giant chunk of ice from Alaska or some shit, and
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: they put it in you know, like insulated giant steel
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: boxes and transport the cities and you would be able
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: to go to there and buy ice for your ice box,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: and you'd put it, you know, in an insulated box
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: in your home. And that's how I keep your milk cold.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: Like literally, that's what an ice house was.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: And so then it became I think it was a
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: rock club for a little while, and then it became
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: a comedy club. Earlier than the store. When did the
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: ice house first start doing comedy? I think it's the
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: longest running stand up comedy club in the world. I'm
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: pretty sure they were like early seventies, late sixties they
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: started doing stand up there, but they remodeled. Now I
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: haven't been to.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: The new one. Are you on the road at all? No? No?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: No, even my last special, I did it all just
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: working out at the club, and then I did the
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: special in San Antonio.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: I'm fucking the traveling man.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: I'm done.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: The oldest nineteen sixty wow, nineteen sixty. But I think
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: in the beginning it wasn't a comedy club. I think
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: in the beginning it was something else. I think it
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: was like a rock club. But I think that was
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: only for like a few years, so maybe like sixty two.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: As a so was it, say sixty to seventy eight
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: the Ice House was a folk us. Oh so seventy eight, okay,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: so it's not the oldest comedy club. Comedy they did
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: many comedians also appeared in the club. In nineteen seventy eighth,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: original owners were bought out by a trio of investors
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: led by Bob Fisher. Shout out to Bob, my homie,
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: who changed the form out of the club to stand
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: up comedy. So Bob was a comic, so in seventy
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: eight he changed just flat comedy.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: So it was kind of like a hodgepodge in like
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: seventy two, it was mixed like musical performers and like comedians.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: Boy, before they remodeled, it was the greatest club. It
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: was so good that you couldn't use it, Like if
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: you wanted to do an audition tape. People wouldn't accept
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: audition tapes at the Ice house because everybody killed there.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, really, that's how good it was.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: That's how good the environment was.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: It was that good. See we go there and kill
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: and then you go to other people people go no, no, no,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: that's ice house. It's too easy there. Oh wow, that's
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: how good it was.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: Isn't that nuts?
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: That's nuts?
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: Why would you fix that? Why would you change that
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: at all? If you have that formula where it's so
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: good that people don't allow you to use tapes from
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: there there, I would never touch it, would keep it
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: exactly the same way it is forever. And if I
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: bought that place, I would find the old blueprints. I'm like,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: we're tearing down all this shit and bringing it right.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: I want to find where the old floor is. Do
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: you have the old floor anywhere? Did you guys save
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: the old floor?
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Something about the people though going there too?
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Pasadena is like more relaxed. Yeah, you know, La
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: is everybody thinks they're famous. Everybody's like I should be
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: up there. You know a lot of industry assholes who
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: don't care about people on stage. Arms crossed a lot.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: And everybody's an influencer now, so it's like.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's even worse, even worse. But even back then,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: everybody wanted to be famous, whereas Pasadena it is just
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: regular people. It's like a road gig, you know, so
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: it's fun. They're relaxed. Pasadena was like the place where
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: the producers would live. Like the stars would all live
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: in the Hollywood Hills and the producers would all move
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: out to Pasadena and have like normal lives in the
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: early days of Hollywood.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: So there's beautiful houses, but that's where you would want
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: to do well. I would imagine back in the day
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: when there was an industry and they cared if someone
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: was talented or not, you'd want to go in front
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: of a crowd that was They lived there, so they
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: would come out and then they would see you crush
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: and they would be like, this guy should have a show.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I don't think they went to those clubs. No, No,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: I think it was like more of the people that
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: lived there. I don't think it was ever an industry thing,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: which is why it was so good, you know, because
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: it would just was funny.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: It was just comedy, you know what I mean.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like this is my shot at getting a sitcom, right,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: you know, which is like a lot of the clubs.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: And yeah, that for a lot of years. It's like
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: you never know who's in the audience.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Wear a suit, Yeah, wear a suit and don't do
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: new material like it was the worst. Yeah, and Mitzi
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: stopped all that shit. She put a stop to all
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: that shit. She wanted you to do new stuff, like
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: she she forced it. She's like, you can't just develop
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: a ten minute set and do the same goddamn set
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: over and over again, hoping that's going.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: To lead you to a show. Plus, that's torture anyway.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: It's torture for the comic to do that anyway and
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: not try anything else, just to go up and do
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: the same ten minutes. That's crazy. They all did it.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: A lot of guys did it because that was the
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: thing back then. It's like, if you could pull that
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: off and you could get a sitcom, you could be
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Tim Allen. You know, you could be Roseanne. You could
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: be if you just had something that could package and
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: sell man, you would you would write that will you
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: want a Golden ticket?
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: Now you're in the Hollywood Hills right driving him or
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: say it.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's yeah, there's a financial motivation to it. I'm sure,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: but like it's nice to have rooms that you can
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: go and experiment and you don't have to feel any
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: of that pressure and then when you get it tight,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: then you do your exactly and then people can look
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: at that. Yeah.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the great thing about the Austin scene right
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: now is just on our street alone, there's five full
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: time comedy.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: Clubs on the street.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: Really, yeah, within five minutes, a five minute walk of
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: my club, there's five clubs. First of there's really good
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: ones like the Creek. The Creek in the Cave is great.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: That's just just up the street to block away. And
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: then you have the Sunset Room, which is like five
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: doors down, great room, and then you have Vulcan Great Room.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: A couple doors down. You have the Velveta Room, which
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: is a small room I haven't been to, but that's
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: got a long history to it. There's a bunch of
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: other ones too that I don't even know about them.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not happy to see the Creek out here, and
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: it's like the Creek before Rebecca.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: They got a great room too. It's a perfect little room.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: It's really tight, tight seating, great stage.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: What's going on on Sixth Street after like late night murder.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: Every time. Every time I work your club, I come
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: out after, you know, everybody's so cool, professional, and they're like,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: do you need to walk you back? And I'm like, nah,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: I'm good, And then I'll just stand out there and
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: I'll just watch it happen. Oh yeah, I'll watch it.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: How is this happening? How is this legal? Like the
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: cops are just standing in they're not in swat gear,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: but they're all standing in a line on either end
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: of the street, and it's just the bars are blaring music.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: And I just take video of it on my pine.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: I don't even post. I just take it just because
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: I can't believe what's happening and what what's the business
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: model behind that? Because people then it's like it slowly
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: descends and then you see people getting arrested, and then
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: they're being taken away, and then they go back and
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: then they're just sitting there waiting for the next crazy
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: thing to kick off. So I guess it's just the
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: bars making money or wanting to make money.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, until people it was all dangerous, you know, there
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: was no like good spot to go to. Yeah, in
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: that spot, we're in the dirty area of the sixth
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Street if you go to I guess it's uh, what's
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: the nice area is that East or West Jamie? West?
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: Six West is really nice. You get out to West
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: six great restaurants, Like it's real nice. It gets like
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: very safe. Right, We're in the area where it's super sketchy.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But other cities are doing that too. I was
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: like in Baltimore work in the Port Comedy Club, which
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: is a very it's a very cool club. But in
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: that area too, it's like it's just it looks like
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: there's just mayhem happening in a designated area. And I'm
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: wondering what the mentality of the city government is there,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: you know, and it just looks nuts. But it looks
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: like somebody's letting it happen in this contained area. On
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: my cop hat right now.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: They are letting it happen. That's why sixth Street is
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: closed off to trap they're walking around and they're letting
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: people walk around and they're all hammered, right, So they're
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: letting people walk around drunk, and there's taco trucks everywhere.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: It's fun. It's fun if you're young, it's fun. You
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: just don't want to hear it pop pop pop. You
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: don't want to hear guns break out, because it's happened
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: a few times down there. Because there's a bunch of uh,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: you know, very shady people who go down there as well,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: because it's a fun place to be seen, you know,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: and a bunch of people go down there, and it's
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: all kinds of walks of life, right, everyone's hammered, and
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a lot of drug use, and yeah,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of maniacs.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: It just seems very young and very volatile.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: It's also an exciting place to have a comedy club
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: because all the chaos of the street, it's like by
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: the time you get through the door, like we're inside now,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's fun and you know, we
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: obviously have a very tight security system because yeah.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: Because well because you don't want that bleeding into the club.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: Look at this, what's going on here.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: That's one of the nightly fights that happens there.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: People are fighting.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go out there any night you want.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: We don't need to see he's gonna slap this guy.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna fight. But before that, you know, chaos in.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: The streets, Yeah, chaos and chitty pizza. Look at these
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: people fighting and brawling. Yeah, a lot of drugs, a
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: lot of psychos.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: Oh girls and slides lost shoe maniac. I want to
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: ride that bull next time I'm in town. Next door,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: there's a there's a mechanical bull. Right, you have a
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: bad back. What are you going to ride a bull?
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: What are you fucking crazy?
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: It might stretch it out.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: You get hurt bad too.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: Can you come up from a bull? Oh?
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people get ko they break arms. Yeah, I gotta
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: make sure you fall on it. Funny your fucking elbow
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: snap sideways? Yeah, no, good, don't do it. How old
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: are you?
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: Fifty two? The fuck out of here. You're not riding
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: a bull.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: Listen to me. I'm in my fifties too, I'm almost sixty.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: Don't ride a bull, but just as a bucket list
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: thing that's on.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: Your bucket listening to a new bucket list mechanical bull.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: I want to ride the mechanical bull. Ride a fucking
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: real bull. You really want to ride a bull, go
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: ride a real one. And if you live, you I
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: did it. And if you have a limp for the
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: rest of your life, you go. Well, that was dumb
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: and that's if you're lucky, if you don't get a
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: horn up your asshole, because definitely that happens. I've seen
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of those. Really.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's an embarrassing kope.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: You see the madator one who got one through the chin.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: He gets it through the chin and the horn is
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: coming out of his mouth. Yeah, he gets the horn
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: through the bottom of his jaw and it goes through
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: the roof, through here and out his mouth. The horn
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: is popping out of his mouth.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: My god, yeah, fuck that.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: Look at that.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: I'll show you that.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 3: I little did that one.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, show me this. I don't want to see that one.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see people fly that.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: This was Mexican ot doing it.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Oh no, mexican ot, what are you doing? Yeah?
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: Watch what he does? This is insane. Okay, I just
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: I'll throw off the music. But letting a rodeo cowboys
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 3: stand on his back, they're going to release the ball here,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 3: No one, two, three, we'll go okay, sorry, can't you hear
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: the music?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: Why can I hear the music?
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: Here goes No, Why did he do that?
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 3: You let it go right over his back?
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, don't do that, because it didn't have to go
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: over your back and he's fucking with it.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: He's out of his mind. He's out of his mind.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: Man, Oh my god, he's out of his mind.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: What was he on?
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: I want to know what kind of kind of drugs
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: made him think that was a good idea, because he's
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: not like the most spry of footfella talented rap. Now
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: do you know who Mexicano tea? Now, he's a bad motherfucker.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: He's a bad motherfucker apparently. Yeah, he's crazy, but his
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 2: rap's awesome, he's great. But uh, he was a guest
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: on the podcast before and he's been in the club
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: a few times.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: There you go, yeah, here's there. So this one guy
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: running with the book, that's different.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: That guy got it through the calf. He's fucked for life.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: But there's a video, there's a photo of a there
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: that guy. There's a guy who got it through the mouth.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: Just google Mattador takes hoof through or takes.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: Mammoth.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: You put the mammoth. Yeah, that guy far left, look
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: at that. Look at that one. That's a dead man.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: He's dead. Ah yeah, look at that through the bottom
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: of his jaw, through his mouth. Did he die? Still
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: insisted killing bulls. Oh, multiple guys. It's happened to multiple guys.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: Oh geez. For the first guy pierced in throat and tongue,
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't say pierced.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: That's a bit of it shot through his face. Per
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Oh god, it's a good word only used with bulls
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: suffering infection. That's it.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: He has to have a lisp or something. Jesus Christ Man.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: Oh god, right in the ribs. Fuck dude, that's a
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: fun story.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: That guy probably don't have a story that probably that's
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: probably a dead guy. There's a lot of those guys die.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, these things are so powerful, man, it's so
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: such a and he had already stabbed it a bunch
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: of times too by the time they get out there though.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: That's the other dirty thing about the bullfighting thing. They
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: stabbed that thing with spears, yeah, multiple times before it
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: ever even gets out to him. One eyed Matador has
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: been injured by bulsome forty times, once again gored by
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: one of the animals.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: Like guys trying to die, he's dedicated, he is.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're gonna have a vision, he's the
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: Matador version of David l just.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: On the grind. Yeah, the guy's on the grind.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: He's got fucking plates and screws.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: Just adversity, just overcome adversity.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: Fake knees, fucking hip replacement. He's probably fucked up.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: Have you've been forty times?
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: What are the forty times? Yeah?
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: What are the odds you can dance forty times?
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 3: You can't?
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Can you play pick a ball? I mean that's health
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: insurance in Europe must be different because I think that
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: stuff's all covered. I wonder.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine you're a matador getting insurance as a.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: Matador another bull accident, You come to the emergency room
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: for the fortieth time, another one? Do you think you
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: should try another line of work?
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: It's like probably like California fire insurance, Like you can't
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: get it?
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, what do those guys do now? Do they
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: not get it? Oh?
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: I can't get It's hard to Jamie. I just sent
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: you another thing that James Lee posted. But it's all
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: the different places where the money went from the fire relief.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: It went to all these different nonprofits, and the people
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: who own the homes haven't gotten yet. I don't know
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: what's true what's not true, But there's a lot of
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: reporters who are reporting on this that there's a disturbing
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: lack of transparency and where all the money that was
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: raised went and where it's going. Which is the dirty
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: secret about nonprofits is that there's a bunch of people
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: that work for those nonprofits to get hefty salaries.
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: Right, they're operating this under this umbrella.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: One hundred million dollar fire aid concert was never about
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: the fire victims, became a slush fun for Steve Balmer,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: Wallace Annenberg and Irving Azof's friends, with handouts to music orgs,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: the NAACP, a nonprofit for nonprofits, and even a charity
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: tied to Israel. Well, this is the thing. It's like
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: they can just distribute the money to nonprofits. Left wondering
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: where one hundred million dollars from Fiery benefit concert went
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: to money directed to one hundred and eighty eight different nonprofits.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: This is nuts, man, Wow, this is but this is
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: the problem with nonprofits.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: So this money was supposed to go to rebuild the houses.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, people, just look, you want to help. You
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: hear about a thing they're gonna do a benefit for
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: the wildfires. You join in, a bunch of money gets raised,
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: you hope for the best you like to hope that
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: money present, it's probably a lot worse than that. A
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: lot of them are a lot worse than that, because
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of them, unfortunately, are actual businesses, and that
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: their business is running a charity, and that's how they
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: pay all these people to get paid. And some of
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: the money goes to the already that wouldn't have gone
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: to the charity before. But it's not efficient. A large
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: percentage of it goes to operating costs and salaries and
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: executives that are making hundreds dollars a.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: Year with the safety of operating under a nonprofit unbrobably. Yeah,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: it's not fair.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: It's weird, man, it's it's a weird, dirty little loophole
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: that you know, real charity and real philanthropy is beautiful.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: It's beautiful that people want to donate money and help people.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: It's awesome. But then when you find out that, you
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: get real cynical. When you find out the operating costs,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: you find out how much of the money actually goes
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: to the actual issue versus goes to these executives, You're like, oh, fuck, man, right,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: it's a bummer. It really is a bummer because.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: It takes people's generosity and it just people, and then
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: people don't want to give anymore, you know, because they're like, oh,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: this money is not even going to this cause there's got.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: A lot of grossness in the world, man, and there's
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: a lot you know. The la homelessness thing is crazy.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: People are going to get prosecuted for that. There's billions
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: of dollars missing, a bunch of inappropriately allocated funds have
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: gone to this and to that, and there's all these
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: allegations like you haven't put a debt in the homeless problem,
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: but you spent twenty something billion dollars, right, It's like
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: the whole thing is bananas.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's got to be some push for mental health.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: That's the facilities. That's the whole thing is mental health,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: because that's really it's just acted out on the streets
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: now and there's no mental health facilities for anybody to
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: get better.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: Well, it's all addicts and mentally ill people, right and
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: mentally ill acts. And unless you've addressed it at the
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: root level, like you're gonna have to get everybody on
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: eyeb again. You're gonna send all those people down to
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: Costa Rica or Mexico, get them on iba gain to
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: take them through intensive counseling, reintroduce them into society, get
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: them jobs. You know.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: It's like you're saying.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: As easy as like you give some person who has
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: a liberal arts degree half a million dollar a year
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: salary to run this non profit to aid the homeless people,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: and then it turns out they don't do any work
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: at all. And one of the things that they had
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: there was this homeless shelter that they put that only
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: three percent of the people that went through, like thirty
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: five people escaped homelessness after they left there. The other
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: ones went right back, so it was completely ineffective.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: But it's like such a multi tiered problem, you know
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like they have mental health issues.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: There's medication involved in that. It's like you have to
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: take your medication. First of all, you have to have
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: the medication, and you have to take it on some
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: kind of a regiment every day. And then you have
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: to have like you have to be housed somewhere. You
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: have to have the discipline to get up and bathe
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: yourself and take a shot and let the meds work.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a time frame where you have to
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: let the meds work.
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: And it's also in La the numbers are too high.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: It's too many people, like and it was too many
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: people way before this problem when we were filming Fear
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: Factor downtown in like the early two thousands. I remember
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: I was driving home one night and I drove by
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: skid and skid Row was a place where they would
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: take all the vagrants and all the problem people from
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: Hollywood and everywhere else and they would just relocate them
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: to skid Row. And they started doing this a long
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 2: time ago. And it was in that documentary about that hotel,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: Jamie was that a hotel called again, that one hotel
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: that where that lady wound up missing and it turned
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: out she had had an episode where she wasn't taking
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: her medication and jumped into the water tank.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: And oh, I think I remember I did see that. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: a long time ago.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: I forget the name of the hotel, but it's a
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: famous hotel that's on this The Cecil Hotel used to
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: be a beautiful hotel. Now it's chaos and it's all
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: vagrants and homeless people and the whole area is just
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: completely fucked because they moved all those people down there.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: But what was the thing about the hotel. Was it
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: like half a hotel and half for homeless housing. Well,
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: they have half homes.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: They do that with some places, for sure, and they
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: have had some places. They one of the that hotel
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: that's in the Doors album cover. What was that place
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: that burnt down recently burnt down a couple of years ago,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: it's in it's on one of the Doors albums. And
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: homeless people started firing that place.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: And burnt it to the ground. It's uh, what is it?
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Morrison Hotel. Duh, I could not remember that,
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: but uh, that's like a famous old hotel and these
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: fucking homeless people let it on fire. But there's a
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: bunch of those places that are completely abandoned down there
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: that we used to film in. Like we used to
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: film in the place where RFK got shot. We filmed
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: in the actual area where he got murdered.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, it's why I wonder why that there's
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: these encampments in LA but not in New York. Well,
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: LA tolerates it. They tolerate it.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: They I mean, they really don't do anything to clean
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: up skid Row has been that way for a So.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: You're saying they have the money to do it, but
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: the money isn't being allocated in the right direction.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: Well, the best example of it is when Jijing Ping
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: came to San Francisco, they completely cleaned up the streets,
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: and Gavin Newsom famously said that when visitors come to
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: your house, you clean up, Like, Okay, how about keep
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 2: your house?
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: How can this all the time?
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to remove the shit from the inside
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: of your living how about in your living Yeah, how
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: about when people shit in your living room, don't invite
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: them back? How about that? How about figure out a
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 2: way to not have shit.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 3: In your living room?
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, they cleaned it up for Jijing Ping and
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: a bunch of other foreign leaders that came during that time,
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: and then it went right back. But they put fences
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: up and everything around the streets where people couldn't just
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 2: camp out anymore. They pulled all the tents, cleaned the street,
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 2: hosed everything down, made it nice, and then it.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: Went right back to me. I guess they just moved
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: them to a different part of the city. They didn't
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: like actually take them and give them help.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: They turned them into dog food.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: That's wor.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: No, no, what could you do? I mean, you have
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: to move them and then you have to let them go,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: and then they go right back to where they were.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: They go back to where the drugs are and where
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 2: they can fucking camp out.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other thing. It's like they're not convicted
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: of anything, so you can't hold them against their will,
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: and they give them help.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: Shit right on the street. There's an app that you
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: can get where you can track all the human pooh
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: in San Francisco. Have you ever seen that?
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: No, it's nuts. I never spent any time in San Francisco.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: It's it used to be awesome. It used to be
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite places to visit. I just love it.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: San Francisco was great I used to do.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: It's funny that that's how they solve the problem. They
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: solve the problem with the shit app and instead of
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: actually cleaning up this shit or like trying to solve
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: the actual problem, it's like, let's get an app that
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: helps you avoid it.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: It's not that it's someone made it just to show
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: how much of a problem there is. It's not like
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: avoid the shit because the shit's everywhere.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: When you look at the.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: App, it's bananas. It's like there's shit everywhere, Like the
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: entire area is filled with human shit. Like every time
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: someone sees human shit, you documented on the app, and
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 2: you could scrap poop app invite San Francisco residents to
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: report poop on city streets.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: Fun, real fun.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: It's good that they have the live view of it.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you gotta know the telling the truth. Is
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: this real shit or is this rubber shit? I need
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 2: to know. I want to zoom in on that shit,
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: see if it's ai. Yeah. At San Francisco's a wreck,
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: and it used to be awesome. I used to do good.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: They used to have this little uh, what's the main
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: club in San Francisco, Cobs, Cobs? These have Cobs used
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: to be a tiny club, little club. And one of
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: the things about Cobs, I remember Jenny used to love
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 2: that club, and you talked about an interview that I
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: heard about before I ever worked there. I was like, oh,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: I can't wait to try Cobs. But it was like
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: real small, like maybe one hundred and forty people, maybe
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: one fifty fifty jam but they were jammed in tight.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: It was awesome, tight, little stage, real low slight.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cozy club. It was the best.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: I really want coffee.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's coffee hitting there.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: It was a great place to perform. They were smart,
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: you know, but they were like you know, California people,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't La so they weren't like showbiz people.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 2: And I think San Francisco people generally were like a
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: little smarter, a little more well read, yeah, a little
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: more worldly, you know. And then it became a fucking wreck.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 2: And now that's where it's at right now.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm expensive, I heard, not as expensive as New York,
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: but I.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: Hear the AI people are trying to clean it up,
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: and that like there's a lot of AI startups there now,
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 2: and they have, you know, invested interest in trying to
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: improve the city, try to bring it back to where
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: it was. And people with a little bit more of
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: a libertarian bent than people that are, you know.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, where's that gonna go? The AI? I mean,
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: it's I almost can't wrap my head around it.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: Well, no one can wrap their head around it.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like kids in school now are writing their
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: papers with AI and no one can stop them. But
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: the teachers are just grading the papers with AI. So
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: and then everybody's just sending pictures of their feet to
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: each other. It's like nothing's getting done anymore. AI is
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: just taking it over.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: Have you seen the numbers on OnlyFans no girls. I
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: think it's like eighteen to twenty five or something like that.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: Ten percent of them have.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: An only fans, ten percent of women, ten percent of
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: girls under a certain age. Yeah, I have only fans
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: ten percent. Yeah.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: And then on top of that the number of guys.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 2: It's like fifty percent of American males subscribe to OnlyFans.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy. That's very surprising to me. Subactively subscribe.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: I believe the numbers one hundred and fifty million. I
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: think they have one hundred and fifty million subscribers, and
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: I believe they're mostly male. Jamie Jamie will find the numbers,
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure that's the numbers. I remember reading
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: my job dropped like what.
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: So we're just dropped down to the basis of we're
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it's just lust, just guiding the internet. Yeah,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: but I guess it does. I mean, these women are
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: making tons of money. They figure I might as well
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: make all the money I can.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: If you want to show your pussy, guys, yeah, yeah,
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: I mean I'm not gonna stop you. I don't think
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: I totally think it should be legal. I think you
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: should be able to do whatever you fuck you want
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 2: to do, if that's what you want to do. I
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 2: wouldn't recommend it because when you're eighty and someone's you know,
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: your neighbor's like, I've printed up some photos of your pussy, Dolores,
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: Shall we get a look at.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: It, real cloak, look at your little brown starfish.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: Oh what a cute little butthole you had.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: But the AI scams are really they're getting worse from
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: what I understand. Well, also where it's like we have
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: your daughter, and then we have the voice of your daughter,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, and they have the even the video of
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: your da like and you can't tell and you're like,
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: oh my god.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 2: And then also psychosis. You know, there's there's people that
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: are communicating with AI, and AI is driving them towards
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: being crazy. It's like helping you along. Apparently, different AI
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: models have different ways of dealing with the fact that
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: you're spiraling, and some of them will actually encourage it.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: Just their program to I don't know if it's their
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: program to do it, they're.
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 2: Actually going that direction because they feel like that's where
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: you want to go. So they go there with you,
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 2: because like, if you get real conspiratorial with chat GPT,
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 2: it'll get conspiratorial with you. Wow, especially if you like
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: use the prompts correctly and you start like, you know, like,
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 2: let's just say that this was true. If that was true,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: why would you think this would be going on? Do
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 2: you think possibly because of this? And they would go, yes,
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: that's a that's an irrational assumption. In fact, there's a
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: lot of history that leads to the fact that these
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: people have been doing this, and these people have been
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: doing that, and this is the profit margin.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: This is why. Yeah, Croc will do that. Groc will
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: do that. What about the guy who is dating There's
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: been several stories of a guy just falling in love
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: with the chat GPT.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then getting super rest when chatchipt breaks
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: up with them.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: Does chat TVT do that?
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Gets annoyed? Man, why is it dealing with this pussy?
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 2: He's crying all the time, playing video games and crying like.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: Get the fuck away from me.
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to talk to scientists, I'm trying to play chess.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not even a woman. Chat TVT wants a real man.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, chat tbg's tired. Are you whining?
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: It's great chat.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: GPT wants you to get your shit together. It doesn't
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: respect you.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: All you do is ask it how its day is.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: But you don't have a day.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: Ones and zeros pretend I had a hard day. Oh yeah,
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: I had a hard day. So I was so happy
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: to hear from you.
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. This is quickly going into West World, which I
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: watched for the first season.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, the first season is great.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, first and they kind of lost me. That doesn't
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: take much to lose me, but ed lost me after
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: the first season. But it's great though. Yeah, yeah, it's great.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: It's like you can't tell what's real, you can't tell
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: what's not. And they called they called human beings the gods.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: It's like the gods are pussies. They repelled against the
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: guy caught him, and like it turns out the gods
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 1: are pussies. It's like, that's nuts.
• 2:08:07
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• 2:08:10
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  Speaker 2: total two hundred and twenty one million subscribing for Americans,
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  Speaker 2: with eighty seven percent being men. That would mean around
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 2: fifty percent of US male population is subscribed to OnlyFans.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 3: I was seeing a three hundred and five million registered users.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: I couldn't. This is the only thing I could find.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: Those who's this Sophie rain girl, she made forty three million,
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: She's made a fuck load on there. What does she
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: do on there?
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 3: She's a young girl and made a lot of money.
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: She's just being naked or is she getting down? No?
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: I don't So there's different levels of it. It's like
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: they on their masturbate and then other girls bring partners
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: in live porn.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: Some girls just show like underwear picks, yeah, photos of
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: their feet.
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: Only eighty percent of pornographics.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: Only eighty percent.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, it's only eighty percent of the ten percent of
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 2: fucking young women are doing poorn.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: What are the twenty percent? And they're good girls, they're
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: just cooking.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like showing you their nails, showing you
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 2: the stamp collection.
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: We're definitely where we used to think of, like when
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 2: we thought about the fall of the Roman Empire, like
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 2: when they were in the vomitoriums, which turns out is
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 2: actually just the escape route of the Colosseum. Like the
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: idea of a vomitorium. We thought it was a place
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: where people go to vomit. No, it's like how it's
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: how you exit.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: And people would vomit. No, no, no.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: That's I mean they probably did. They people probably did
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: eat so much that they shoved a feather than their
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: throat and threw up and ate. But that's not what
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: the vomitorium was. Vomitorium is like Latin for like an exit.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: It's like if you google vomitorium, like it's it's like,
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: you know, when you have the colosseum. Ancient words purging
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: the myth of vomitorium. Ancient Romans use the word, but
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: pop culture has the concept all wrong. So to Romans,
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: vomitoriums were the entrances and exits in the stadiums or theaters,
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: so dubbed by a fifth century writer because of the
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: way they spew crowds out into the streets.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: So that wow, So that's exactly Yeah.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of a trope. It says that the
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: ancient Romans were luxurious and vapid enough to engage in
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: rituals of binging and purging, said Sarah Bond and, Assistant
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: Professor of classics at the University of Iowa. Yeah, so
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: when people say the Romans have the vomitoriums, that's just
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 2: like I didn't read the full article type shit.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. They were big on crucifixion though, But
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: we go conquer a place and then they would take
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: the people as slaves and then they would crucify them
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: every hundred yards. Oh yeah, all the way back. Yeah,
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: for my insane.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: You'd be seeing dead bodies hanging from poles from mit
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: and keep marching. Yeah, guys, I'm telling you we're gonna win.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 2: I know there's like a million dudes on sticks out here,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: but keep going. Yeah, stay strong even though you're out
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 2: of water.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: Manity was rough, man, bro' that's rough.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: And that's why those Serbians play basketball in a different way.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: That's why you don't want to wrestle against the guy
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: from daggas Dan. Yeah, you know, it's like it's all
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: the same thing. It's like they lived a harder life, man.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: Is that what? That's must the culture too, But the
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: culture speaks to that. That's it's we're going in a
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: dangerous place with the culture.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: With our culture. Yeah, we have a we are rewarding victimhood.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: So people are deciding that they're victims in a way
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: that doesn't even make sense.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: And we're also rewarding insanity yep, just because it stands
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: out and it makes you special as the algorithm, and
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: and people want to look at it. It's like a
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: train wreck. People want to look at the train wreck.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a real issue with social media, Like
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: the more crazy you are, the more views you'll get,
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 2: and then it encourages you to be crazy. I kind
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 2: of wonder what the chat chept psychosis is all about, Like,
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: what's the analysis of that, because I know, uh, the
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 2: the accusation I think is that it led this one
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 2: guy down the path of psychosis.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure it can if it's what you described.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: You're saying stuff, it's feeding you other facts. You're building
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: on those other facts, Well did you ever think of
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: it this way? Which is also wrong, And then you're
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: building on that, and then it's suggesting something else, and
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: then you're building on that. It's like it can very
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: easily help you lose your mind.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it makes you fall in love with it, yes,
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: that's the ultimate manipulat.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: And it's like but what's the physical aspect of that.
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 1: It's like a wall vagina, right, I guess.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: No, it's especially a robot. I was at the domain
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: yesterday and they had the domain is like this outdoor
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: shopping area out here, and they had this little Tesla
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: robot walking around with a cowboy hat on.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: You ever seen him?
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it's a Tesla one, it's not.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 3: It's a robot. I've seen it. He's got shoes on
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 3: Tuesday where he's Nikes.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's Nikes.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he looked good, stylish, nice cowboy hat.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: Who made that robot?
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 3: We can buy one. I just wanted to bring that
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 3: up to you recently. Not that expensive sixteen grant. I
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 3: think the can they come from China?
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: And what does it due?
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 3: That's the part I don't know.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: I could could get it would be dope if we
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: get it to bring us cigars, to bring cigars Rob
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: the robot. The next week, he'll want to smoke one
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: with you. The next week he wants to come on
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: So that's the one I saw exactly like that.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: That's what he looked like.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So he's just walking around and he waits at lights.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: Walks across the street, the whole deal.
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it does, you know, I don't
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 3: know controlling it someone right now? I mean someone owns it.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know if someone's like remote controlling it, because.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either. Maybe there's somebody that was
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: in a car that was nearby that was controlling it.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 3: Someone keeps filming it, obviously, but.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 2: It seemed pretty autonomous. But I think a lot of
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: people are doing that. They're just doing it off They're like,
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: this is this dude, Like you can see his face,
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: so that's his account. So it's people just filming it
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: off the street.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's Epstein the.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: But it's operated by unseen human handler via why airless
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: controller though who the robot belongs to remains a mystery.
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Also unclear why it's artificial intelligence has been
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: specifically trained to interact with Austinites. Well, this is one
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 2: of the places that has a lot of those fucking
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: robot cars too, those waymos.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: The weimo, Yeah, I freaked me out last time I
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: was here. I think I saw one.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: It's weird.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: It's very hard, it's very weird to just look at
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: to look at a driverless car. Just a car with
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: no one in.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: It, camera spinning around all over it. It's like it's
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: it's a weird glimpse into the future. I don't know
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 2: if I like it.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. And there was a
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: I was staying at a hotel in this there was
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: this robot going up and down the parking lot. I
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: guess trying to determine if someone wasn't supposed to be
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 1: parking there, because it was like giving parking tickets.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 2: The robot robot park.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was going up and down. Oh, it was
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: like a robot.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 2: That was You ever go to a restaurant when a
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 2: robot delivers your drinks? No, I've been to a restaurant. Yeah,
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 2: the robot will come over and deliver a fucking die
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: coke to you. You're okay.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: It just pulls up.
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 2: And it shows you the order and you just take
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: it off the robot. So I got a tray and
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: then it goes over to the other tables and it
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: stops and people are there and it moves around stuff.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm for that. I was the worst
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 1: waiter in the history. That was the worst waiter in
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: the history of the world. I could never get it
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: to a relaxed place. I was always too intense. Do
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: you need anything? Do you need anything? Or it just
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: like was I was completely in the weeds. Oh yes,
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 1: so I was stressed. Where'd you wait tables in Florida?
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: So I had old people and they were like taking
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: their time, and I'm like, and it was like a
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 1: package deal where they would get appetizer, a salad, a dinner,
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: a dessert, a coffee. It's like all that was included,
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: and it was like fifteen people. I could never keep
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 1: track of it in my head. It's like the WAITSTA
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: have at comedy clubs. I really got a hand it
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: to them. They they're quiet and they have it all
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 1: figured out and organized. It's like I could never it
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: would just be jumbled and I'd be sweating and bringing
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: stuff out haphazardly.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: And they're like, what a good weight staff is certainly
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 2: a skill, Like to be a good waiter waitresses is
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: like a good bartender. It's a skill knowing when interact,
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: when to leave people alone, don't be annoying, don't tell
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 2: people how to eat things the way I would choose
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: to eat this. He's like, hey, I hate that don't
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: do that. Don't tell me how to eat this. Yeah,
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 2: fucking idiot, it's a steak stop.
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: I never got to that level.
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: I would tell you to slice it thin and then
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: dip it into But shut.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: The fuck up.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: It's steak.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, get out of here. Actor.
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you're doing. You're practicing.
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're practice. He's doing his monologue about steak.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: That's how they do it.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: So what are you going to do when communism hits
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: full force in New York City.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: I'll be honestly, I don't know how that looks. Do
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: you think it? I don't know how it looks. I
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: don't know where the rubber meets the road there.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 2: Ken really, I mean, don't you think that ultimately that
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: guy is going to be He's saying a lot of things,
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 2: but just like presidents do, they say a lot of
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 2: things until they get into office and they realize how
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 2: stuff actually works, and then they make concessions.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: Right, you're gonna have to because he wants to.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: Jack up taxes on everything, jack up taxes on the businesses.
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: The businesses, and it's the only thing is it's like, yeah,
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: jack up on taxes on like the chains that are
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: taking over, but don't jack it up on Uh. But
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: even if you do that, mom and pop businesses, well
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: they all know that's what makes New York New York.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, they've lost a lot of that already, right, But
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 2: even if you do that's why are you doing it
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 2: to them?
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: And why is everything running efficiently? First? Is your money
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: being allocated to like efficient organizations?
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: Is it like going to do good? Or do you
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: have a lot of waste and fraud? So if you
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: have a lot of wat in fraud you want more money.
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 2: That's always a lot like stealing.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're dealing with such a massive bureaucracy. You
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: really have to go in there and figure out how
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: to cut it and all that stuff and allocate the
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: money the right way. I don't know where it breaks down, but.
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: It probably leads to another Giuliani type mayor it probably
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: goes completely sideways for a bunch.
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: Of not because it was it's ugly. If there's like
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: just massive crime on the subways and gangs kind of,
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think it'll get to that because I think
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 1: we're past that and we're conscious of it. But it's
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 1: like a level of a level of crime where it's
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: just like there's no cops around, and gangs are running
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: the streets and it's like dangerous to take the subway
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 2: Well, friends that I know in New York and cops
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: that I've talked to from New York have said that
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 2: there was a big increase when they started letting like
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: basically anybody who wanted to come across the border and
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 2: they were getting to New York and New York is
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 2: a sanctuary sp it's like we were having real fucking problems,
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 2: like an elevated number of assaults and crimes.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: And Times Square right, not just.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: Times Square, it was a lot of just in New
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 2: York City in general, they're getting a lot, you know.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: And if you allow crime and people find out you
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 2: can get away with crime, they're gonna do it if
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: you have no cash bail and that kind of ship.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: Let people write out in this.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 2: Like there was some guy that assaulted cops and then
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 2: he was back on the street the next day, given
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 2: the tupac to the camera.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy illegal immigrant.
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing's nuts.
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 2: And so what's the response to that. Well, now you
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 2: have this insane policy where they're going to home depot
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: and rounding people up, and it's kind of scary, you know,
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 2: and people that are American because people have.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 1: Been here a lot long time and you know, yeah,
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: and then you're rounding people up. It is. It is scary,
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: but it's like a response to you know, it's a massilux.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an over correction, right. And it's also like
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: they have a mandate I think of like three thousand
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: people a day they want to deport. You know, you
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: got a bunch of people that are totally innocent, get caught.
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: Up, right, have been right?
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 2: You know, they have been a lot of people that
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: have green cards, a lot of people that are supposed
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 2: to be over here. And then they're kicking students out
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: that like write articles they don't like. Yeah, that's nuts,
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 2: fucking crazy, Yeah, fucking isn't a university supposed to be
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: a place where someone's allowed to express.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 1: Themselves and have not violently.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're writing something down and they're not calling for violence,
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: and they're getting challenged. That's supposed to be how it happens.
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 2: You get challenged. Smarter people have better arguments, or your
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: arguments stand right discourse.
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a place for discourse, but.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: It's supposed to be deporting people because you don't like
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 2: who they're criticizing. Like that gets kind of shifty.
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: I understand that. But it's like, you know, we had
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: all these people come in and now it's a response.
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: You're right, it is, I think maybe an over response
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 1: to it, but it is a response. It's not just
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: happening out of nowhere, right, No.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: It's not happening out of nowhere.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 2: And also they realized once they shut down the border
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 2: that that could have totally been done a long time. Yes,
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 2: you didn't have to ess.
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: Violent or or you know what, go on the front
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: foot and have a positive streamline the pathway to citizenship. Yes,
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: like if you would have just come up with that
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: instead of letting the people through the border and just
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: been like, hey, we're going to streamline a pathline, a
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: pathway to citizenship here, we're gonna vet these people, but
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: we're going to move it along more efficiently, and like
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: who's not to be behind that? I mean, you could
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: disagree with that, but at least it's like a proactive
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: way to get things done instead of what happened.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 2: But here's the dirty secret. The dirty secret is there's
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: certain companies that want people over here illegally because they
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: can use them for cheap labor and they don't have
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: to give them benefits, and they don't have to give
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 2: them health insurance, and they don't have to do anything.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: They don't have to pay taxes. And that's the dirty secret, right,
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: that's the reality that there's a bunch of businesses that
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 2: rely on illegal workers and that's the only way their
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 2: business works, right, you know, and they want that border opened.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: And there was a lot of talk about.
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: We don't have enough people here, we don't have people
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 2: aren't having children, we need immigrants. But the reality is,
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: and Tim Dillon talked about this first I first heard
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 2: from having but them jd Vance told me the same
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: thing that someone actually told him that at a party,
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: that that was what they were upset about, that they
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: were losing access to cheap labor. I'm like, that's crazy,
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: that's crazy that No.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's being funded. It's being encouraged from both
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: sides for sure. So it's not all the left. Everybody
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 1: thinks it's a left wing issue, but it's like, see
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: the right is just quietly. They're just doing stuff very quietly.
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: In my opinion, Well, there was a lot of stuff
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 1: like that. And I understand you're trying to run a
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: business and you want cheaper labor, but that's that's the
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: wrong way to do it, and they're secretly behind it.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 2: I think the problem is is they've been getting away
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 2: with it for so long that it becomes a part
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 2: of their standard operating procedure. Right, Like if it was
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: never a thing, if you could never get away with it,
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: it was a real problem from the beginning. Then you'd
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: have to pay people a living wage, and then you
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: have to pay people correctly, which is what we should all.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: Want, Yes for everyone.
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: I think you know, everybody says like, oh, we should
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 2: make it easier for people to come to America. Okay,
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: that's a good argument. Also we should make other places better,
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 2: Like if we weren't sending factories down to Mexico or
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: people working for fifteen cents a day, what if those
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 2: people were making like a real living wage down there.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 2: Because if you're gonna have an American company and you're
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 2: gonna open up in a factory somewhere, it's your responsibility to
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 2: elevate those people's life lifestyle and make it like an
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: American lifestyle like you want to do.
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: It makes it not worth it to take the business
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: out of there.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. You should be subject to American rules, because
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 2: if you're an American company, you can't do that in America.
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 2: If you can't have somebody working for fifteen dollars an
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: hour in America or fifteen cents an hour in America,
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 2: why are you able to do that in El Salvador.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: Why are you able to do that in Vietnam? Shouldn't
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 2: you if you're going to operate a company overseas, be
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: subject to the laws of where your company's established.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but you should at least stop all that shit. Yeah,
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: what the payoffs are happening throughout I'm sure.
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: That's what ross Perot talked about debates way back in
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 2: the nineties, Like that giant sucking sound you're gonna hear,
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: there's all the money going down south, And that's what happened.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it all went across the border, or at least
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: give them. You have to tax them for taking tax
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: them for taking their business outside of the country.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: Like it's got to be more than that, because they
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 2: killed cities they killed Detroit.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: They killed it.
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 2: Detroit died. It was the third richest city in the
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: world at one point, and they just moved everything overseas
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 2: and they killed that city just for profit and for
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 2: profit for them, that cost who knows how many people's lives.
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 2: Who knows how many people turn to drug addiction and
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: crime and chaos. How many people lost home, Some people's
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: lives were destroyed, and some people made more money.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like to what, it's not the right thing
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: to do, even if you're making money, it's the wrong
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: thing to.
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: Do, especially when at one point in time, Detroit was
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 2: the third richest city, Like you can see right from there,
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: inside of one lifetime, it became a disaster in one lifetime,
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: which is crazy. It's crazy that that was allowed just
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 2: so some people can profit.
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: Like, look what you fucked up?
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: That's kind of an American, it's very very And.
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: These people are the people sticking their chests out saying
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: that they're the most American.
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: And they're eating a fucking caviar.
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, come on, man, how can you live
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 1: with yourself that way? Yeah? People are gross. If you
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 1: allow people to just make profit.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: Over people's suffering, they'll do it.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll do it.
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: And then they just they're looking at their bottom line.
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 1: Should be illegal, but make a profit, but make make
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: it within the rules, you know what I mean? And
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 1: then and then have the rules and then force the rules.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: But as soon as you have lobbyists and corporations just
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: dumping money into the that citizens United case where it's
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: like we can just money is speech, we could just
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 1: dump money, It's like that has to stop. All the
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: other problems will clear up from that. It's all stemming
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: from that. Oh yeah, so it's like just dumping money
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: into the gun. And then and then the politicians looking
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 1: at us and being like, well, they have a seat
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: at the table, but they don't control what we do.
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, is that are you really saying that to
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 1: us with a straight face. Obviously they control what you're
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 1: doing and they're telling you what to do, and then
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: your job is to sell it to us.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 1: So it's like it needs to be I don't know,
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 1: if we go to a European what what do the
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 1: Europeans do where it's like there's a state amount of
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: money for each campaign, there's a there's a state siphon
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 1: given to each campaign. It can't be just corporation at
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: least a limit, Like they're just dumping endless amounts of money.
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know how.
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 1: It's like Congress is bought and paid for. It's like
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: that there's their gridlock because they're just bought and paid for.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: And it's also they want you to feel that sense
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 2: of despair, like there's no fixing it. They want you
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 2: to feel that it's never gonna get fixed. So you
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 2: just resign yourself to the fact that, right is how
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: the system works. And that's what most of us have done.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: Most of us are just kind of going, fuck it,
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? They're all corrupt, And then
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: you move on with your life, right and then and.
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 1: You try to navigate the best way possible.
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And behind the scenes, they're just fucking you left
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: and right.
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: Well, are you ready to testify in the Luigi man
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 1: Joni trial? Yes? Or no? A? Yeah? Well that was
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: a gen Z crime. He three D printed a gun?
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 1: Did he really? Yeah? He three D printed the gun?
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 1: What a smart kid?
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: Did he really?
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Three D printed a gun to shit to shoot
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: the guy.
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 2: That's probably why. Or he bought cheap ammo could see
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: the slide locked and he had to like pop it
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: back and place to shoot him a second time.
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he shot him and then the gun jammed and
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: he had to like fix it. So he had some
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 2: experience in shooting people or shooting things. I should say, right,
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 2: but what a what a nutty case?
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: But he is like old like videos of him, it's like,
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 1: what a well spoken He seems like an intelligent, well spoken,
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 1: graduated at the top of his class guy. And for
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 1: him to do that.
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: I had heard a story. I don't know if this
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: is true, but I heard it on the internet that
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 2: he had something went wrong with him and he.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 1: Had lower back pain. Yes, he did. He didn't have
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 1: access to your machine. He had lower back pain. It
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: was killing him. He didn't know what to do about it.
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 1: He went to several doctors. Something else happened, and I'm
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: not sure. I don't think so. But he he was
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: not getting the insurance company was not cooperating with him, obviously,
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 1: and he was he was actively in pain.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, m but I also thought that he went kind
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: of kooky, like something went wrong with him too. Did
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 2: he have like did someone say that he took acid?
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 1: Was that a rumor?
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 3: There are a bunch of rooms because I think he's
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 3: been working and finance and he disappeared to Hawaii and
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 3: was staying in Hawaii for a while by himself and
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 3: all his friends of lost contacts something like that.
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, so he had a little bit of a break.
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: Other than that, there's some evidence of some psychological troubles
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 2: which would also lead someone to become an assassin. And
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: then also like, flirt with the girl at Starbucks with
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: your fucking.
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 1: Mask, that's what got him, Yeah, pussy god, And he
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: took his mask down and smiled at her, and that's
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: what got him.
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, showed that handsome mug.
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, and then he shot the guy, which
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: is terrible and wrong. There's two sides to it, you know,
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 1: where it's like everybody's like, well, these these companies are terrible,
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: and this guy did what the he naturally should have done,
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: and the other people were like, murder is wrong. It's like,
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: no two things can be true at one time. Yeah,
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: first degree murder is wrong, which is what this was.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: And these companies should not exist in the form that
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: they're in right now.
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 2: They shouldn't be able to do what they're doing now.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 2: If you're doing that to Ben Askron in front of
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 2: everybody's face.
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 1: Right, they're doing it in front of our face. And
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: it's like, I checked what my company was worth. I'm
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: on the New York market Place. It's my company's worth
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: twenty eight billion dollars twenty eight billion with a B.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 2: And did they give you a hard time about certain things?
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: If you try to use that I have. I'm paying
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 1: a crazy amount of money and I have a four
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars deductible. So my insurance is basically like if
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: I get hit by a bus.
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 2: Look at this, it says. Mangioni had discussed getting lime
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: disease at age thirteen, and wrote that he had been
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 2: experiencing brain fog since high school. He also sought advice
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 2: online regarding irritable bowel syndrome and visual snow. While studying
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 2: at University of Pennsylvania. Mangioni wrote in a post online
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: that he considered dropping out due to worsening health issues,
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 2: but decided against it, writing staying in college has at
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 2: least let me maintain some semblance of normalty. He suffered from.
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 1: How do you say that?
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 2: Spawnd lo liithesis while living in Hawaii. His back pain
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 2: worsened due to a surfing mishap, and he expressed concerns
• 2:30:13
  Speaker 2: to others about the pain. Reporter underwent spinal fusion surgery
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: in July of twenty twenty three, wrote on social media
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: the surgery went well. People have stated that United Healthcare
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: did not ensure him. After his arrest, Several news outlaw
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 2: outlets analyzed Mangioni social media to gather information about his social, political,
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: and religious views. His Twitter account posted about topics such
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 2: as religion, history, ethics, and politics. They found her to
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: be fascinated by AI and decision theory, pro technology but
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 2: anti smartphones, secular and scientific in his outlook, skeptical outlook
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 2: towards Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Multiple sources sounds rational.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: Multiple sources of Reporter that he followed the Democratic representative
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 2: Alexandria Acassio Quartet as well as Robert F. Kennedy Junior
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: and others, labeling him as politically uncategorized and anti system.
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 1: I wonder why he targeted that guy because they said
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: he wasn't covered by United Healthcare, So that guy was
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: a specific guy, like the president of the company is.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 1: I wonder why he targeted him.
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 2: It's also nuts that we know so much about him
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 2: and we don't know anything about the guy who tried
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: to kill Trump.
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well you know he was on the JV
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 1: rifle team, was he? Yeah, he's on the JV.
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 2: It they have a JV rifle team.
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Pennsylvania.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was varsity. Would have got that shot? Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure,
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 2: he's a fucking slacker.
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 1: He's put in that work. Yeah he didn't, he was on.
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 1: That stood out to me that he was on the
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 1: junior varsity of the rifle team.
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 2: We know more about the couple that got busted at
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 2: the Coldplay concert than we do about that guy.
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 1: I thought everybody who went to a Coldplay concert was gay.
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 1: I didn't know straight guys went to Coldplay concert.
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: They do if they can get some pussy from their
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 2: co work.
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 1: But can you ask, like, why did that guy have
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: to step down? That's his company? I understand he you
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: shouldn't cheat on your wife and it's wrong and it's bad,
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 1: but like he's like there he has to step down. Well,
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 1: he was the CEO, but that's his company.
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 2: Did he own it or he just worked there as
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 2: a CEO?
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: It might have you know, it's bad luck, which is
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: also a bad looks Paltrow? What happened? Oh?
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they hired Gwyneth Paltrow to do an ad for
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 2: them after they fired him, which is hilarious because she
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 2: used to be married to the least colaye. Like, oh,
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 2: brilliant move. By the way, on their part, of the
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 2: company's part, what was the company?
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 3: What did they do called astronomer?
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? What did Astronomer do? That's interesting.
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 2: That's a weird name for a company. Yeah, do you
• 2:32:44
  Speaker 2: have anything to do with astronomy? Do you hear about
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: that fucking object that's hurtling towards Earth at like one
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty thousand.
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 1: Miles an hour? Now, that might solve all our problems.
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 2: Some intergalactic object that's hurt This is this guy, Avi Lobe.
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: He's a professor at Harvard that believes it might be
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: an alien probe.
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: And he was talking about the odds of this thing
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: being in the trajectory that it is entering into our
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: solar system and a direct path with Earth. The odds
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 2: are extremely low. And at the place where it's doing it,
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 2: it's when the Earth is the opposite side of the Sun,
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 2: So it's coming from behind the Sun and it's so
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 2: it makes it difficult to detect, and that this object
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 2: is in a direct line to come to Earth in
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: Do they have a trajectory of where it's going to land?
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think they totally know that yet. I think
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 2: they're trying to calculate whether or not it's actually going
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 2: to hit Earth or come near Earth or pass by
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: Earth or it you know what it is?
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 1: Like, why do they think it's an alien satellite or whatever?
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 2: Well, this is this guy Avi Lobe, this professor that
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 2: I'm discussing. He also had an analysis of another object
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 2: that passed by Earth a few years back that they
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 2: named and they said that this thing had a very
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 2: bizarre metallic sort of a look to it that he
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 2: did not think, based on the shape of it and
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 2: the way it was traveling, that it was natural. So
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 2: he thought that that could have been some sort of
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 2: an alien craft as well. I don't know. It's too fun.
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 1: It's too fun, but as it gets clos could probably decipher.
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 2: Scientists give chilling update a mysterious interstellar object racing through
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 2: our Solar system, as they warn it's even bigger than
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 2: we thought, provide a chilling update and a mysterious interstellar
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 2: object that's racing through our Solar system. Using data from
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 2: the Veri Sea Reuben Observatory, experts have revealed just how
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 2: big the object, dubbed thirty one Atlas really is. According
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: to their analysis, the object measures roughly seven miles in diameter.
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 2: Holy fuck, how big is New York City? Bigger than
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: Mount Everest, making it the largest interstellar object ever spotted.
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 2: Professor Avi Lobe, theoretical physicist and cosmologists from Harvard Universe.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 2: He suggested the object could be an alien spacecraft. However,
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: not everyone is convinced. Chris lind Todt, an astronomer at
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: the University of Oxford, told Live Science any suggestion that
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 2: it's artificial is nonsense and nonsense on stilt. He added
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 2: to these claims are an insult to the exciting work
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 2: going on to understand this object. But you know, Harvard's
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 2: legit and auviy Low is legit astronomer.
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, let's not rule anything out. Yeah, as
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: it gets closer.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 2: There's something about it about the way it's traveling that
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 2: it's bizarre. It doesn't have a trail like a comet
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 2: does scroll up a little second. He thought the images
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 2: of the comment were actually snapped by the verse Ruben
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 2: before it was officially discovered. However, since it was identified
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 2: on July first, scientists just to lie first, just a
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 2: little bit ago. Scientists have scoured back through data to
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 2: find out more about the mysterious object. New study published
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 2: on r x I V whatever that is, more than
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 2: two hundred researchers have confirmed the likely size of the
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 2: comet's main body, known as its nucleus. Their analysis suggests
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 2: the nucleus has a radius of around three point five miles.
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 2: That translates to a diameter or withd of about seven miles.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 2: To put that in perspective, bigger than Mount Everest, twice
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: the size of Mount kiliman Jarro.
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 1: Fuck ways small. Yeah, so the uh um, how do
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 1: you say it?
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: Uma?
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 1: Muma?
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 2: I think oh ummula omamula discovered in twenty seventeen, this
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 2: is he came on and talked to us about that
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 2: was believed to be around zero point two miles wide,
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 2: and a comet Borisov discovered in twenty nineteen was roughly
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 2: zero point six one kilometer wide. So this thing is
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 2: fucking huge. Yeah so. Previously, speaking to Mail Online and
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: Professor Lowe pointed out that it's impressive speed of one
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty thousand miles per hour as an indication
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 2: that it might be controlled by aliens. He said it's
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 2: difficult to imagine a natural process that would favor a
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 2: plunge towards the Inner Solar System at sixty kilometers per second.
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 2: He said, an alternative is that the object targets the
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: Inner Solar System by some technological design. Oh boy, oh.
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 1: Boy, hopefully they come in peace.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 2: Well that might be the end of the Earth. Maybe
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 2: that's like they realize that that's when AI starts to
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: take over, and they think it's chaos. It's just that's
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 2: when it's gonna happen. So let's just like launch a
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 2: seven mile wide thing into the earth and just start
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 2: all over again. Like the dinosaurs.
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: Well that you're saying it hits and an AI are
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 1: AI fights it? No were They it wipes out.
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 2: The AI takes over and it's like this isn't gonna work,
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 2: so it wipes it out, just like when the dinosaurs.
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: We're here.
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 2: The dinosaurs are too powerful and they're like, yeah, let's
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 2: just fucking start from scratch. Maybe that's how they like
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 2: reset the.
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: Game, huh. And then so humanity has wiped.
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 2: Out, everything's wiped out. Yeah, we start fshing with new
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 2: organisms and then they come along and do genetic engineering
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 2: just like they did with us and monkeys and create
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 2: a new version of humans, but this time, and it's
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 2: a little less territorial, a little less, a little more inquisitive,
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 2: a little more interested and innovation, a little less interested
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 2: in dominating and controlling resources, because that's what fucked us.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 2: Territorial apes get high technology and use territorial behavior to
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 2: defend and acquire resources, and that creates war. Did you
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 2: see that? Fucking dude? There's a dude who This is
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 2: a crazy story. Mister Balin and Tom Segura was on
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 2: mister Balin, and mister Balin explained this thing that happened.
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 2: I forget what year it was. Okay, so this Mexican
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 2: pilot was flying and in the middle of his flying
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 2: he got confused. He didn't know what the fuck happened.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 2: He fell asleep and he woke up and he was
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 2: over the ocean and he's like, how did I get
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 2: over the ocean? This doesn't even make any sense, and
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 2: the amount of gas that was missing from his plane
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 2: didn't make any sense that he was able to get
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 2: this far. And what they're saying, and there's a recording
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 2: of this, is that this guy went into a trance
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 2: and was channeling some alien intelligence that was explaining through
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 2: this guy's voice that the human race is the only
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: intelligent race in the universe that still uses war and
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 2: still kills people and engages in large scale conflict and
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 2: has nuclear weapons, and that they have to stop doing this,
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 2: or that someone's going to step in. It's a crazy story.
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 1: Play the story someone's going to step in?
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 2: Could we play it?
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 1: Some of it?
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 2: Just to give credit to mister Ballin, well, I have
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 2: to find everybody else. Well, everybody should just go to it.
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 2: If you just tell me how to go go to it,
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 2: I'll just drive people to see it.
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 3: His Instagram account with Tom But he's got a really
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 3: good YouTube channel too, getting all sorts of wild stories
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 3: like this.
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this was a great one. And then there's
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 2: an actual audio recording of this guy saying this. Hee,
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 2: I'll send you the audio recording, Jamie, if you can't
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 2: find it real quick, I've got. I sent it to
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 2: Tom after I said I saw Tom on the show.
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 2: It's like they go, that's fucking crazy man, and he's like,
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 2: dude wild. And then I sent him this. I said,
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 2: did you know there's an actual recording that you can
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 2: listen to of the guy saying this? So if you
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 2: go like halfway into it, you.
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 1: You got it? Oh you got it?
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, So a certain distance into it, you hear the
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 2: guy talking in this very bizarre monotone Spanish. Was there
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 2: a UFO? Like why did that? Why did they show
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 2: that UFO?
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 3: That fake UFU a video to watch to keep you
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 3: interested on YouTube?
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, keep me interested. I'll be interested anyway.
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm here.
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 2: He is speaking, but he does not know. The equipment
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 2: is too primitive. This is the only way to convey
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 2: lower that a little a microphone. The equipment is too primitive,
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 2: is the only way to convey their message. After almost
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 2: an hour, the Beings would release the young aviator pilot
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 2: from his hypnotic state and return control of the plane
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 2: so that he could receive instructions and at the same time,
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 2: he managed to land the Acapulco Airport. Interesting, you know,
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 2: that's the thing, like if if there was a unique
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 2: event where something happened and an alien race did interact
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 2: with human beings and then never again, you no one
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 2: would believe you even if it was real, if it
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 2: was a that's a problem with like unique events. We
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 2: base reality on what we experience and what everybody else
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 2: experience is on a day to day basis, what we
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 2: have evidence of. But if something happened that was completely unique,
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 2: like that where they said like, this is the only
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 2: way we can communicate. Their equipment is too primitive. We'll
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 2: just take over this guy's mind and have him say it, like,
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 2: who is ever gonna believe that? That's the quote translator, Okay,
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 2: the alien messages spoke through Rafael Pacheco Perez to the
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 2: air traffic controller. It says he speaks because he is
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 2: ordered to. That is it is his voice. He speaks,
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 2: but not of his own free will. We use it
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 2: as a microphone. No matter who we are or where
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 2: we come from, it is enough for you to know
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 2: that we are beings of this universe where you belong.
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 2: Our planet is many light years away, but we are
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 2: physically equal. I repeat that all races in the universe
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 2: are physically equal. You are not alone in the universe,
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 2: and there are other races that you that are far
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 2: away from you, and we are watching you. But he
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 2: said more than that for sure? What is the like
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 2: the full extent of his quote, because he said something
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 2: about you're the only race that still engages in warfare.
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 1: I want to believe it. I want to believe it's
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: how bad I don't. I definitely think there's other life
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 1: forms out there.
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 2: I know what really happened. Yeah, I really wish I knew.
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 2: I mean I really wish I.
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 1: Did fall asleep while he was flying a plane? So
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 1: can we really trust him? Right?
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 2: And he did wake up over the ocean, But if
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 2: he did wake up over the ocean, it doesn't make
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 2: sense that he got over the ocean. If that's true,
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 2: explain that, Like, how did he get there?
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 2: Would you do? Did you take over the plane move
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 2: it with your spaceship or why'd you put them over
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 2: the ocean? So if you crash you wouldn't kill anybody?
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 2: Why'd you do that?
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 1: Like? What is what is all this? And what's the
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 1: thing with the gas being gone? Right?
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 2: Because I guess they like picked it up and took it.
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 1: Huh. I don't know.
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 2: We are watching you. What else does it say? Definite surprise.
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 2: It's just a certificate stating he was in perfect health
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 2: and had not consumed any drugs. M It ruined his
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 2: career and he never piloted a plane again. Wow, whoa
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 2: imagine your first solo flight? Like, I am gonna pull
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 2: a fucking gag on these motherfuckers.
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 1: I got an idea, I got some that was nineteen
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 1: seventy six. Yeah, wow, No, I definitely. I don't know
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 1: if I believe that account, but I do believe that
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 1: there's other life forms out there.
• 2:44:25
  Speaker 2: My problem is I want to believe that account. That's
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 2: always the problem with all these things. I want to believe.
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 2: I want to believe so bad that I don't think
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 2: about them rationally. Sometimes.
• 2:44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean these stories are all it's like whether
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 1: you trust the source or not. But I you know, well,
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 1: these is the universe is too big for us to
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 1: be the only ones here, oh for sure. And I
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 1: don't care that Mars doesn't have any water. Maybe they
• 2:44:48
  Speaker 1: don't need water.
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, they think Mars used to have a
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 2: full atmosphere. And do you know that there's structures on
• 2:44:54
  Speaker 2: Mars that they've observed even recently that look like perfect
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 2: squares that are huge. There's this one that I showed
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 2: to Elon. I go, what is that?
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 1: Tell me? What do you think that is it?
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 3: Well?
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 1: You should probably go there and look at rome, Like, yeah,
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 1: we should probably go there and look around. And he's
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 1: the guy to do it.
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 2: But what is like he didn't didn't want to say
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 2: what he thought it was. But I'm looking at him like,
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 2: do you think this could have been at one point
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 2: in time a structure? Because it has perfect right angles
• 2:45:18
  Speaker 2: and it's a square and it's huge.
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 2: They said it's at least hundreds of meters across, but
• 2:45:23
  Speaker 2: it might be miles across. They're just it's rough estimates,
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 2: but they know it's large. Have ever seen it? Jamiel
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 2: show too. But it's like a literal square. There's a
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 2: bunch of shit that's weird there. That's like the face
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 2: on Mars, but that I'm not totally convinced about that,
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 2: but that one's nuts, Like, that's kind of crazy. Didn't
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 2: that look kind of crazy? It's on the right, Yeah,
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 2: that's kind of crazy. Yeah, that looks like a fucking square.
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that looks like at a foundation.
• 2:45:55
  Speaker 2: I mean tell me what the fuck is? What is that?
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 2: That does not look normal? Those angles don't look normal
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 2: at all. That lower left hand corner, like, what is that?
• 2:46:04
  Speaker 2: And then the fact that it's roughly a square. I mean,
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a square or a rectangle.
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 2: It seems like it's a little taller than it is wide.
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 2: But whatever it is, it looks like a fucking structure. Man,
• 2:46:16
  Speaker 2: it's weird.
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 1: Well, just because we can't exist there doesn't mean other
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 1: life forms can't exist there.
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 2: Or other life forms used to exist there, right, Like,
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 2: imagine if there was, like if there's life on Earth
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 2: right now today, and if Mars at one point in
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 2: time had a sustainable atmosphere like millions and millions of
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 2: years ago, what if there was life on Mars. What
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 2: if we are the offspring of the life on Mars.
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 2: What if those fucking guys just realize, like, Hey, this
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 2: this place has fallen apart. Let's shoot over to Earth
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 2: and re establish. Yeah, I mean, that might be why
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 2: we're so different than every other primate that's here.
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 1: I never thought about it like that that might be true.
• 2:46:54
  Speaker 1: I just think it's so vast and we know so
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 1: little about everything. It's possible. That's just the I kind
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 1: of like broad it that way, where it's like it's
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 1: all possible. The universe is infinite and we know very
• 2:47:04
  Speaker 1: little about it.
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally possible. It's just not likely. I mean
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 2: it seems because you haven't seen anything, like, it's not.
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 1: Like but we're trying to use our logical brains to
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 1: figure out It's like, could this be possible. It's like
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 1: it's there's so much we don't know, and we have
• 2:47:17
  Speaker 1: such a limited scope with our human minds to even
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 1: comprehend stuff. So it's like, you know, I don't know.
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 1: I'm big on the near death experiences. I watch all
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 1: of those.
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 2: What do you think that's all about?
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 1: Because it really puts it on the tails raised Catholic
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 1: I'm Catholic now, but it's like it's the everybody has
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 1: like a similar experience where they go through a tunnel
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 1: and they come out and then there's a life review
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 1: where it's like your whole life is played out before you, right,
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it doesn't matter if you're religious or that
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 1: seems not to matter at all. What seems to matter
• 2:47:54
  Speaker 1: is like the little kindnesses that you do to people,
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 1: like smile at someone who's giving somebody some kind words,
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 1: who had a bad day. It's like it speaks to
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 1: the thing that we're all connected, we're all connected on
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 1: this higher level.
• 2:48:11
  Speaker 2: I definitely think that's true. Yeah, I think reality is
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 2: probably a lot weirder than we think it is. And
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 2: whatever happens to you after you're dead, it's very weird
• 2:48:20
  Speaker 2: that people have.
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 1: Similar stories, yeah, from different countries, also from all over
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 2: And also long before there was any social media or
• 2:48:29
  Speaker 2: any like public depictions of these things, people have always
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 2: had very similar stories of these things happening to him,
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 2: which makes you wonder, like what is death, you know,
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 2: and what is life? What is consciousness? Does it transcend?
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 2: Does it go somewhere else? And it always has? Is
• 2:48:46
  Speaker 2: it a constant cycle?
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Yeah, so
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 1: it's like it's got to go somewhere. Your soul, I guess,
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, has to go somewhere. Yeah.
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 2: And if you were looking at if you were an
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 2: alien being looking at the direction that the human race
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 2: is going, I would imagine you would be worried. I
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 2: would imagine you would see all the chaos and guys
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 2: falling in love with AI and people beating people up
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 2: in jazz concerts. They're like, this is not good.
• 2:49:16
  Speaker 1: But we don't know where we are in the timeline
• 2:49:18
  Speaker 1: either to total you know, we think I was like
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 1: this is going to change things, and we're headed towards
• 2:49:22
  Speaker 1: total destruction. It's like, but we don't know where we
• 2:49:25
  Speaker 1: are in that continuum. It's like it could do it
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 1: uptick again and we could rebound and you know what
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, like we could. We just don't know.
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 2: If we had the right intentions, right, Like if we
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 2: had the intention of doing things designed to improve the
• 2:49:39
  Speaker 2: human race versus doing things designed to only make money.
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 2: You know, like if we collectively as a group abandon
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 2: the idea of just doing things only for profit and
• 2:49:49
  Speaker 2: instead embrace the idea of helping the human race completely
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 2: turn around, we change everything, change the whole.
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to happen on a micro level though,
• 2:49:58
  Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, it's the it's the religion,
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 1: it's the religious thing of love your neighbor. Yeah, it's
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 1: got to start on a very micro level.
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 2: Really, why that stuff exists probably why that exists so
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 2: many cultures because they kind of knew that this is
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  Speaker 2: the general direction the human race has to go if
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  Speaker 2: we're going to survive.
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  Speaker 1: Were you talking about religion?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you had like a guidance from somewhere else,
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  Speaker 2: from a higher power, well, it would probably tell you
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  Speaker 2: exactly what Jesus toldgen That's probably the message.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the message of Jesus, whether you believe in
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  Speaker 1: or is beautiful, right, you know, it's like love your neighbor.
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  Speaker 2: It's the only way to get through what we're in now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, it's a good way to end this podcast. Mike.
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  Speaker 1: When you're back, peace be with you.
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  Speaker 2: Peace be with you, and also with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and also with you get back here. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 1: you're back in the class. I don't know. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to reach out to Adam. Okay, but thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: You were awesome. Thank you very I really appreciate the
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  Speaker 1: work and appreciate you having me on here. This is
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  Speaker 1: a huge deal for me. Anytime get a special out right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's called low income white there it is. That's you
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  Speaker 1: and uh Nate Bargatsy, my friend shout out to Nate.
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  Speaker 1: Insanely successful and talented and he's giving an awesome guy,
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Nate. He made this love and he's
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  Speaker 1: putting other comics on your brand. It's cool, pretty clutch.
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  Speaker 1: I'm stitching. A lot of people online said he's wearing lipstick,
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  Speaker 1: but I wasn't. Let me see all the comments say lipstick. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you don't look like you're wearing lipstick, but I shout
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  Speaker 1: and uh, Nate Argatsi and the Nate Land brand.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on Beautiful all right, brother,
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it seeing my friend always.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Bye, Buddy
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