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True Crime Documentary - The Truth About John Wayne Gacy： A Graveyard Under His House · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

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Speaker 1: This program contains graphic violence and sexual situations. Fewer discretion
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Speaker 1: is advised. Dozens of teenage boys taken, tortured for hours,
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Speaker 1: then killed in cold blood.
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Speaker 2: The killing for him is very arousing.
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Speaker 1: They're victims of a power hungry sadist that can't get enough.
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Speaker 2: He is obsessed. There's times when he actually is killing
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Speaker 2: two individuals on the same night.
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Speaker 1: A plot of a Hollywood horror film. This is a
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Speaker 1: terrifying true story.
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Speaker 3: He actually had something that most killers don't. He had
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Speaker 3: a graveyard underneath his house.
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Speaker 1: The original killer Clown, the real monster that came before
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Speaker 1: the movie's it Clownhouse, and many others behind the screens. Chicago, Illinois.
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Speaker 1: Norwood Park is a quaint neighborhood just a short drive
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Speaker 1: from O'Hare International Airport. It's a sunny day in nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy five when eighteen year old Johnny Bukovic and two
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Speaker 1: of his friends arrive at the residential office of PDM Contractors.
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Speaker 1: The owner often hires young, unskilled workers to keep costs down.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes he doesn't pay them anything at all. Johnny's had enough.
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Speaker 4: Come on, man, I know you're in there. Johnny. You
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Speaker 4: need to pay me right now.
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Speaker 1: The two men argue for hours.
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Speaker 4: I keep telling you I have the money. It's just
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Speaker 4: been an accounting for about it.
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Speaker 1: You have it now, Johnny throwns to expose his boss's
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Speaker 1: sketchy business practices.
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Speaker 4: You're absolutely right. I'm sorry this has happened. Listen, I'll
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Speaker 4: tell you.
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Speaker 1: In the end, he realizes he's not getting what he
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Speaker 1: came for.
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Speaker 4: Johnny, I'll give you every penny I owe you.
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Speaker 1: He leaves with his friends. This should be the end
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Speaker 1: of the story, but after leaving his bosses home, young
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Speaker 1: Johnny Bukovich suddenly disappears. The next morning, his parents suspect
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Speaker 1: something terrible has happened. Johnny's father comes across his son's
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Speaker 1: car only a few blocks away from his home, and
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Speaker 1: the key is still inside. Johnny loves his car. He'd
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Speaker 1: been saving up to race it. He'd never leave it
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Speaker 1: that way.
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Speaker 2: Chicago Precinct fourteen.
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Speaker 1: The local police receive an urgent call from mister Bukovich.
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Speaker 1: He frantically alerts them to his son's disappearance. Arriving at
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Speaker 1: the scene, Officer Berkhard of Chicago p D approaches the
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Speaker 1: driver's side door. Peering in through the window, he sees
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Speaker 1: a key in the ignition, but there's more inside. The
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Speaker 1: young man's checkbook has been left in the glovebox. His
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Speaker 1: wallet is in the center console, and it's filled with cash.
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Speaker 1: It's undeniably suspicious. Still, these abandoned items are proof of
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Speaker 1: foul play. Burkhardt heads back to the station to file
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Speaker 1: a report. Weeks later, the police still have no leads,
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Speaker 1: but Johnny's parents won't give up. His father keeps calling
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Speaker 1: the police over and over. He remembers his son had
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Speaker 1: a wage dispute and have gone to see his boss.
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Speaker 1: Then he vanished. But Johnny's boss is someone the police
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Speaker 1: would never suspect. He's a respected businessman and a prominent
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Speaker 1: member of the local community. Still, Officer Burkhardt contacts him
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Speaker 1: about the young boy. The contractor tells him Johnny Bukevich
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Speaker 1: did come to his house with two friends. He says,
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Speaker 1: those witnesses can confirm the boy left his place just fine.
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Speaker 1: Where he went from there is a mystery. Over the
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Speaker 1: next three years, this same mystery plays out again and
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Speaker 1: again in Chicago. Young men keep going missing. The ones
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Speaker 1: reported to police remain unsolved.
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Speaker 3: This is the nineteen seventies. This is a period of
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Speaker 3: time when hitchhiking was still very popular. It wasn't unusual
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Speaker 3: for people to travel distances to go periods of time
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Speaker 3: without actually identifying where they were, So it's hard to
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Speaker 3: go back and determine where someone goes missing if you're
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Speaker 3: not sure precisely that where there should have been.
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Speaker 1: For a predator that stalks human prey, the seventies, Chicago
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Speaker 1: is the perfect hunting ground. Street after street of young
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Speaker 1: boys willing to ride with nearly anyone who offers to
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Speaker 1: get them high.
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Speaker 2: Generally, there's a preference for a certain type of victim.
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Speaker 2: They want victims that are vulnerable, victims that aren't going
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Speaker 2: to be sought out quickly by police. So you choose
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Speaker 2: high risk victims, which is why prostitutes are such easy
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Speaker 2: target for offenders. Or if you get young men engaged
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Speaker 2: in prostitution activities, or you get drifters, people wandering around
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Speaker 2: looking for a job that you know they're not from
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Speaker 2: the area, you know these are very vulnerable individuals, people
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Speaker 2: that will go missing and people won't be looking for them.
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Speaker 1: Then three years after Johnny Bukovich goes missing, twenty six
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Speaker 1: year old Jeffrey Rignol rushes into another Chicago police precinct.
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Speaker 4: There's a guy trying to kill me, and.
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Speaker 1: He's clearly traumatized from the bruises on his face. Detectives
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Speaker 1: expect the worst.
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Speaker 4: There's this dude in a black sident.
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Speaker 1: Rignal tells them his horrifying story. Two days earlier, he's
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Speaker 1: walking home when he notices a big black car cruising
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Speaker 1: right behind him. Hey, the driver invites him to hop
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Speaker 1: in and smoke a joint.
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Speaker 4: You want to get high?
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Speaker 1: The man seems friendly enough, all right, right on, so
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Speaker 1: Rignold doesn't hesitate to hop in.
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Speaker 4: All right, all right, let's go.
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Speaker 2: When we're looking at ceial fenders and how they select
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Speaker 2: their victims, oftentimes they're picking very vulnerable individuals. They're reading individuals.
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Speaker 2: They're very good at reading people and what they want.
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Speaker 2: So if this individual is looking for drugs, I'm the
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Speaker 2: individual that can supply those drugs. Then they need to
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Speaker 2: disarm the individual and they need to get them alone.
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Speaker 2: They need to get them vulnerable.
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Speaker 1: But as soon as the car pulls away, the man pounces,
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Speaker 1: shoving a rag over his nose and mouth. It's soaked
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Speaker 1: with a sweet smelling liquid, probably chloroform. He wakes several
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Speaker 1: times during the ride, briefly catching glimpses of street lights
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Speaker 1: on the expressway and signs. Then the kidnapper puts the
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Speaker 1: rag back over his mouth and everything goes black and
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Speaker 1: the worst is yet to come. When he regains consciousness,
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Speaker 1: he finds himself inside the predator's home. He's been stripped naked,
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Speaker 1: his hands are locked in some sort of torture restraint,
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Speaker 1: and the man from the car looms over him ominously.
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Speaker 1: His face so friendly and innocent before now twists into
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Speaker 1: a maniacal, obscene grin. He slowly steps forward, picks up
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Speaker 1: a short blunt object from the floor, and attacks. For
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Speaker 1: hours and hours, He's raped, whipped, and beaten, all at
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Speaker 1: the hands of the brutal sadist over and over. The
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Speaker 1: assailant uses chloroform to knock him out, and each time
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Speaker 1: he wakes up, the nightmare begins again. Then, after countless
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Speaker 1: hours of pain, in a rare and inexplicable moment of mercy,
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Speaker 1: the sadistic monster dumps Rignal in a park, alive but unconscious,
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Speaker 1: battered in dis oriented, the tortured young man goes straight
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Speaker 1: to the police.
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Speaker 2: Can you tell me enoughness?
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Speaker 4: He's a white mt He's.
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Speaker 1: The detectives believe Jeffrey Rignold's frightening story.
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Speaker 2: So, sir, right now, all I know is that he
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Speaker 2: was a white man with a mustache.
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Speaker 1: But without a name, an address, or a solid description
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Speaker 1: of his abductor, there's very little they can do. The
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Speaker 1: one unique detailed Riginald does remember the car, a black Osmobile. Also,
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Speaker 1: he remembers seeing an exit sign on the expressway as
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Speaker 1: he drifted in and out of consciousness. The leads are
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Speaker 1: insignificant for the detectives. It's not enough information to open
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Speaker 1: an investigation.
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Speaker 3: Investigators know they're looking at a serious crime, a crime
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Speaker 3: a battery of one form or another, but they don't
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Speaker 3: have any good clues. They don't have an identity of
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Speaker 3: who this guy actually is. In fact, they have nothing
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Speaker 3: to work with.
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Speaker 1: Angry and frustrated, he takes matters into his own hands
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Speaker 1: and launches his own investigation. He decides to go on
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Speaker 1: a stakeout at the exit ramp he remembers from his
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Speaker 1: nightmare experience. It's a long shot. Thousands of cars travel
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Speaker 1: this busy expressway every day, but if he can spot
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Speaker 1: that one car, he might be able to bring the
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Speaker 1: depraved attacker to justice.
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Speaker 3: What are the odds that you could sit at a location,
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Speaker 3: knowing nothing about the pattern of the predator and actually
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Speaker 3: see the same car was used in your crime. Pretty
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Speaker 3: slim odds. That's why, for the most part, detectives probably
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Speaker 3: wouldn't even take that approach. But here Rignal decides, this
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Speaker 3: is the only approach I can take. I only know
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Speaker 3: one thing about this guy, for sure, I know where
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Speaker 3: he snatched.
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Speaker 1: Me, but it looks like a needle in a haystack.
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Speaker 1: Weeks turned to months and there's no sign of the
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Speaker 1: black Oldsmobile. But just when Rignal's about to give up,
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Speaker 1: he sees it. It's heading northwest into the suburbs. He
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Speaker 1: can hardly believe it. It's definitely the same car, and the
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Speaker 1: chase is on.
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Speaker 3: You got to give Richnald a lot of credit because
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Speaker 3: he was able to do something that most agencies can't
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Speaker 3: even finance. He spent a period of months looking at
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Speaker 3: the scene a surveillance basically and actually identified the car
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Speaker 3: that he was taken from.
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Speaker 1: Rignold discreetly follows the car into the neighborhood of Norwood
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Speaker 1: Park as it stops outside eighty two thirteen Summerdale Avenue,
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Speaker 1: Rignoll is confident he's found the location where he was
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Speaker 1: attacked and tortured. Armed with a license plate number and
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Speaker 1: a residential address, he goes straight to the police and
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Speaker 1: they identify the man behind his abduction, John Wayne Gacy.
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Speaker 1: Gasey is a very public figure. He's a respected Chicago
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Speaker 1: businessman who lives in a nice suburban neighborhood with a
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Speaker 1: wife and two step daughters.
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Speaker 3: He's reputable, he's involved with business. He's well known in
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Speaker 3: the community. He's a good neighbor. He's politically active. He's
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Speaker 3: involved as a precinct captain. The scary thing about cases
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Speaker 3: like this is that Gaycy, like other predators, he's not hiding.
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Speaker 4: He's actually very very.
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Speaker 3: Comfortable out in the open, and as a matter of fact,
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Speaker 3: he's established himself in a way that would put him
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Speaker 3: beyond a suspicion. He's even photographed with First Lady Roslind Carter.
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Speaker 3: These are the kinds of things that give you cover
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Speaker 3: so you can hide and plan site.
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Speaker 1: And that's not all. In his spare time, Gaysey polishes
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Speaker 1: his public persona as a member of the Jolly Joker
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Speaker 1: Clown Club.
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Speaker 2: For Gaysey, this is just simply another way of being
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Speaker 2: like the guy everybody likes. I mean, how could you
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Speaker 2: not like a clown. It allows him essentially to dress
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Speaker 2: up in face paint and you know, act in a
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Speaker 2: way that he probably wouldn't normally act.
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Speaker 1: When he's not in costume, Gasey creates his own costume
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Speaker 1: and takes the name Pogo the Clown, performing for kids
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Speaker 1: at birthday parties and local hospitals.
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Speaker 2: It's just another piece of this public persona that keeps
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Speaker 2: people thinking he's just your average great guy in the city,
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Speaker 2: in the neighborhood, very helpful and look, he even entertains children.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait to year some birthlys with you.
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Speaker 1: Three years earlier, when eighteen year old Johnny Bukovich disappeared,
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Speaker 1: police spoke briefly with Gasey. At that time. Due to
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Speaker 1: his positive reputation in the community and the fact that
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Speaker 1: no one could directly connect him to the boy's disappearance,
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Speaker 1: they quickly dismissed him as a suspect. Now there's someone
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Speaker 1: who has evidence. Rignal has seen Gaysey's dark side, but
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Speaker 1: without a corroborating witness, the only charge police can file
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Speaker 1: in the Jeffrey Rignold case is battery. It's a minor
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Speaker 1: offense with a fine of just one hundred dollars and
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Speaker 1: no jail time. Rignal is furious.
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Speaker 3: Remember that months have now transpired between the point of
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Speaker 3: the attack and the point of the arrest. The opportunity
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Speaker 3: to go back and collect physical evidence that would either
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Speaker 3: corroborate Rignald's version of the story or Gaysey's version of
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Speaker 3: the story has now vanished because so many months have transpired.
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Speaker 3: And that's why this is a difficult case to really
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Speaker 3: even try, because you have a one on one, one
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Speaker 3: person's word against somebody else and probably little or no
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Speaker 3: forensic evidence to corroborate one side or the other.
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Speaker 1: Gaysey's ultimately arrested for this.
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Speaker 3: Battery, but very common to other kinds of crimes, doesn't
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Speaker 3: mean he's going to stay in custody, And in fact,
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Speaker 3: this is not unusual to have somebody to be out
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Speaker 3: of custody a waiting trial, and that's exactly what happens
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Speaker 3: with Gaysey.
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Speaker 4: In fact, he's out of custody.
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Speaker 3: For a long period of time waiting to go to
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Speaker 3: trial on the Rignald case.
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Speaker 1: With his slap on the wrist misdemeanor trial pending Gaysey
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Speaker 1: quickly falls off the police radar. In his private life
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Speaker 1: he may be a defant, but in public he's still
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Speaker 1: seen as a pillar of the community for police. John
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Speaker 1: Wayne Gacy's community service makes him a civic hero. On
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Speaker 1: the other hand, his accuser, Jeffrey Rignal, openly admits to
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Speaker 1: police that he's bisexual. It's a dangerous confession in the
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Speaker 1: late seventies, and it labels Rignal a sexual deviant in
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Speaker 1: the eyes of many Chicago Precinct fourteen. Meanwhile, every few weeks,
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Speaker 1: police get another call from the parents of young Johnny Bukovich,
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Speaker 1: the boy who worked for Gaysey and disappeared mysteriously three
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Speaker 1: years earlier after they had an argument.
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Speaker 4: You need to pay me right now.
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Speaker 1: And Johnny isn't alone. The number of missing teenagers in
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Speaker 1: Chicago keeps growing. Nineteen young men have vanished. Most are
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Speaker 1: never even reported to police. The ones that are quickly
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Speaker 1: get dismissed as runaways. If these cases are linked in
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Speaker 1: any way, without witnesses, there's almost no way for police
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Speaker 1: detectives spread out over multiple precincts and jurisdictions to make
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Speaker 1: a connection.
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Speaker 2: It's a real detriment to law enforcement. Because you have
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Speaker 2: a lot of cases that really are linked, but there's
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Speaker 2: no ability to link them because the individual law enforcement
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Speaker 2: agencies aren't aware of the other cases.
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Speaker 3: Remember we're in the seventies. This is pre Internet. This
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Speaker 3: is pre really computers being able to do the kinds
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Speaker 3: of databasing what we do today. It's pre technology for
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Speaker 3: DNA and other kind of forensic technology.
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Speaker 4: It's pre social media.
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Speaker 3: Your smartphone today can identify where you are. It's pre
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Speaker 3: any of that. We're looking at a time and history
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Speaker 3: in which someone could go missing and there'd be little
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Speaker 3: or no trail online, little or no trail of forensically
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Speaker 3: that would help investigators solve such a case.
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Speaker 1: Then there's a break that could finally solve these mysterious disappearances.
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Speaker 3: My son's missing.
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Speaker 1: Nine months after Rignoll's brutal abduction, displanes Illinois Office or
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Speaker 1: Ron Adams takes a statement from a very frightened mother,
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Speaker 1: Please you've got to help me, named Elizabeth Peaste. She
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Speaker 1: says her fifteen year old son, Robert is missing, and
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Speaker 1: unlike previous cases, Robert is a model child with no
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Speaker 1: motive to run off.
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Speaker 3: Robert Peace is unusual. He's different than the other missing
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Speaker 3: young man. He's an outlier in the sense that he's
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Speaker 3: the kind of guy who's connected to his family. He's
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Speaker 3: close to his parents. His parents have an expectation when
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Speaker 3: they're going to see him, when they're not going to
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Speaker 3: see him. If he goes missing for a short period
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Speaker 3: of time, they're alarmed.
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Speaker 4: When's the last time you sell him? I went to
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Speaker 4: miss this drug store where he were.
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Speaker 3: He goes missing on the night of his mother's birthday.
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Speaker 3: It's very unusual for Robert. They have got a close
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Speaker 3: relationship and they don't expect this kind of behavior from him,
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Speaker 3: and for that reason, the detectives take this very seriously.
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Speaker 1: Earlier that evening, missus Peaste is waiting to drive her
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Speaker 1: son Robert home from his current job at a local pharmacy.
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Speaker 1: When he asks her to wait a little longer.
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Speaker 4: I got him meet with him.
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Speaker 1: It's not twice as much as the far. He says
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Speaker 1: he has a lead on a new job for the summer.
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Speaker 1: He runs off to talk to the potential employer. Young
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Speaker 1: Robert never returns. It's a parent's worst nightmare, and his
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Speaker 1: mother has no idea how real and terrifying this nightmare
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Speaker 1: truly is. Her son's current boss says, the name of
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Speaker 1: the man Robert went to see.
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Speaker 2: I had a guy in here before.
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Speaker 4: He was talking to me about some shelving.
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Speaker 1: It's a contractor, Yeah, is John Gasey. That night at
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Speaker 1: the precinct, police take missus Peast's story very seriously.
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Speaker 2: And turn the corner and he never came back.
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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Joe Cozenzak is the chief of detectives at Desplain's PD,
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Speaker 1: and this case hits especially close to home. Cozen Zak
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Speaker 1: also has a teenage son and he attends the same
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Speaker 1: high school as Robert Peaste. It's not hard for him
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Speaker 1: to imagine what missus Peaste is going through. It's almost
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Speaker 1: as if he's searching for his own child.
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Speaker 4: And you find that Gayzy.
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Speaker 2: He's the last person to see Robbie.
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Speaker 1: Using the name John Gasey and a phone number supplied
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Speaker 1: by the boys. Boss cozen Zach contacts Chicago Police headquarters
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Speaker 1: to see if this mysterious contractor has any prior convictions.
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Speaker 1: What he finds is very disturbing. Digging through records from
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Speaker 1: multiple precincts, he finds out John Wayne Gacy has a
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Speaker 1: serious criminal history involving young men and boys.
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Speaker 2: We know that offenders choose, especially serial offenders, tend to
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Speaker 2: have a particular victim type that they're looking for. When
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Speaker 2: you see a particular sex being targeted, a particular age
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Speaker 2: range being targeted, it starts to really sort of raise
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Speaker 2: your hackles.
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Speaker 1: His rap sheet shows the recent case involving twenty six
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Speaker 1: year old Jeffrey Rignall. That criminal trial is still pending,
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Speaker 1: but there's more. Ten years earlier, Geysey was convicted in
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Speaker 1: Iowa of sodomizing a fifteen year old boy, the same
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Speaker 1: age as Robert Peaste. He served just eighteen months of
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Speaker 1: a ten year prison sentence. Clearly, moving to another state
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Speaker 1: and building his reputation as an upstanding citizen did not
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Speaker 1: curb his deviant appetites.
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Speaker 2: Gaysey has a very clear definition of what is legal
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Speaker 2: and what is not legal. He understands that, but he
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Speaker 2: doesn't care. He just simply chooses to do wrong without
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Speaker 2: any consequences because that's what makes him feel good.
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Speaker 1: Detective Cozens knows the boy is in serious danger and
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Speaker 1: every second counts.
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Speaker 3: It's not a cliche to say that the first forty
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Speaker 3: eight hours of an investigation are critical, because it's all
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Speaker 3: about evidence, and what evidence is still available to us.
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Speaker 3: At some point, evidence either deteriorates because of the nature
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Speaker 3: of the evidence if it's biological, for example, or a
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Speaker 3: suspect has the opportunity to dispose of evidence. So that's
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Speaker 3: why we want to work quickly. It's not just in
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Speaker 3: figuring out who did it. It's about preserving the evidence
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Speaker 3: that points to the person who did it.
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Speaker 1: Detective cost and Zach and another officer head to Gaycy's
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Speaker 1: home on Summerdale Avenue. They want to question the suspect
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Speaker 1: face to face. They're also praying they'll find teenage Robert
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Speaker 1: inside the man's home, unharmed.
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Speaker 4: And it's John Gaizy.
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Speaker 1: Yes, but when Gasey opens the door, there's no sign
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Speaker 1: of anyone else inside.
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Speaker 4: He spoke with you, No, I idle.
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Speaker 1: The contractor denies ever meeting Robert Peaste. He says his
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Speaker 1: uncle just died. He doesn't have time to talk about
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Speaker 1: missing boys he's never met. Gasey wants them to leave
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Speaker 1: so he can speak to his mourning mother.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a good time, sir, but we
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Speaker 2: just need to clear a few things up.
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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Cosenzach is suspicious. He thinks the story is smoke
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Speaker 1: and mirrors, deceased uncle or not.
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Speaker 4: I need you to come to answer.
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Speaker 1: Cozen Zach knows Gasey's hiding something.
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Speaker 3: Detectives are always looking for some form of evidence in
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Speaker 3: everything they do. Sometimes that evidence is just behavior. It's
24:31
Speaker 3: just what somebody says and how they say it, the
24:34
Speaker 3: things they chose to say, the things they could have
24:36
Speaker 3: said but chose not to say, expressions. These are the
24:39
Speaker 3: things that are important to detectives.
24:42
Speaker 1: But Cosenzach can tell he's not getting any more out
24:44
Speaker 1: of Gaysey right now. He asks the contractor to come
24:48
Speaker 1: to the station and make a formal statement later that evening.
24:52
Speaker 4: Fine.
24:53
Speaker 1: Reluctantly, Gasey agrees. Gaysey's criminal record makes his possible involvement
24:59
Speaker 1: in the appearance of Robert Peaste very disturbing, but it
25:03
Speaker 1: also gives Lieutenant cosen Zach hope. The contractor may be
25:07
Speaker 1: a sexual predator, but there's no evidence he's a killer.
25:12
Speaker 1: Robert may still be alive, but the clock is ticking.
25:17
Speaker 1: Cozen Zach needs a search warrant. Now.
25:21
Speaker 3: The problem with many of these cases is trying to
25:23
Speaker 3: develop enough probable cause to write a search warrant so
25:26
Speaker 3: you can actually find the evidence you need to make
25:28
Speaker 3: the case, and if you're standing on the outside, I
25:31
Speaker 3: don't have much information to begin with. It's hard to
25:33
Speaker 3: do that.
25:35
Speaker 2: This offender is not going to stop, and your concern
25:38
Speaker 2: as an investigator is what can I do now to
25:43
Speaker 2: get this guy identified and get him stopped.
25:46
Speaker 1: Lieutenant cozen Zach contacts the state's attorney. He's short on
25:51
Speaker 1: physical evidence, but Gasey's criminal record and the witness testimony
25:55
Speaker 1: that says Robert went to speak to the convict contractor
25:58
Speaker 1: right before he disappeared is enough to secure the warrant
26:02
Speaker 1: he needs. Hey Fellas Later that day, when Gasey finally
26:09
Speaker 1: shows up to make a formal statement, his demeanor is
26:12
Speaker 1: calm and confident. He has no idea he's walking into
26:17
Speaker 1: a trap.
26:18
Speaker 2: He sees himself as infallible. There's no way the police
26:21
Speaker 2: are going to catch me. I am just that good.
26:25
Speaker 2: That's the way he looks at himself, and oftentimes that's
26:29
Speaker 2: the undoing for individuals like this.
26:31
Speaker 1: Cozenzak serves him the warrant and requests the keys to
26:35
Speaker 1: Gaysey's house and vehicles.
26:37
Speaker 4: You can't do this.
26:38
Speaker 1: Gasey's volatile reaction says everything.
26:42
Speaker 4: You can't have my keys. I know your boss, I
26:44
Speaker 4: will have your jobs for this.
26:46
Speaker 1: There's obviously something he doesn't want them to see.
26:49
Speaker 4: You have no idea who you're dealing with.
26:53
Speaker 3: Gaysey is clearly a very clever, cunning man, but there's
26:56
Speaker 3: even something more disturbing about it. There's a sense here
26:59
Speaker 3: that Gasey think that he's got more experience in this
27:02
Speaker 3: than the people who are investigating him, and he acts
27:05
Speaker 3: that way. He's very bold, he's very praised, and he's
27:07
Speaker 3: leaving things out. He's not covering all of his tracks.
27:10
Speaker 3: There's a sense that he's very comfortable doing what he's doing.
27:15
Speaker 1: With Gasey at the station, Lieutenant Cosenzach heads to the
27:19
Speaker 1: contractor's home. His heart is racing. It's been nearly two
27:25
Speaker 1: days since fifteen year old Robert Peace vanished, trapped by
27:30
Speaker 1: a vile predator like Gaysey. It would be naive to
27:33
Speaker 1: think that Robert's unharmed, but cozen Zach praise he's still alive.
27:41
Speaker 1: Stepping inside, cozen Zach and the other detectives spread out,
27:46
Speaker 1: going room to room, they search every inch of Gasey's home.
27:51
Speaker 3: Detectives are always trying to connect the dots. You're trying
27:54
Speaker 3: to find those pieces of evidence that connect your victim
27:56
Speaker 3: to your suspect, especially if the suspect has denied having
27:59
Speaker 3: any extended contact with the victim or is maybe even
28:02
Speaker 3: denied knowing the victim. I'm looking for something that betrays
28:05
Speaker 3: the lie. That can be a personal property from the victim.
28:09
Speaker 3: It could be his jewelry, It could be clothing from
28:11
Speaker 3: the victim. It could be anything like this that connects
28:14
Speaker 3: victims to suspects.
28:17
Speaker 1: They find gay pornographic videos, magazines and sex toys, a
28:23
Speaker 1: set of nickel plated handcuffs, and something far more disturbing,
28:28
Speaker 1: a two by four with human restraints at either end.
28:33
Speaker 1: It's a device someone like Gaysey might use for sexual torture.
28:39
Speaker 1: But that's not all they find in the kitchen trash.
28:42
Speaker 1: There's a film developing receipt from Nissan Pharmacy, where Robert
28:46
Speaker 1: Peaste worked. Gaysey also has a suspicious assortment of personal
28:51
Speaker 1: effects that clearly are not his own. A class ring
28:55
Speaker 1: with the initials JAS, underwear that's too to fit a
29:00
Speaker 1: man his size, and a blue hooded coat similar to
29:05
Speaker 1: one Robert peastewar the night he disappeared. Then, while pulling
29:11
Speaker 1: items from a closet, Cozenzak sees something unexpected, a trapdoor
29:17
Speaker 1: leading down under the house. Reaching down, he slides his
29:22
Speaker 1: hand under the door and slowly begins to lift it up.
29:27
Speaker 1: Robert could be trapped below or worse, is this a
29:31
Speaker 1: crawl space or a deadly tomb. The air inside the dank,
29:41
Speaker 1: dungeon like area is thick with a musty smell, but
29:47
Speaker 1: the dirt appears undisturbed, and there's no sign of the
29:51
Speaker 1: young boy Removing the evidence they've collected, Cozenzak and his
29:58
Speaker 1: team leave Gay's What he's found so far is chilling,
30:06
Speaker 1: but before he can make an arrest, he still needs
30:09
Speaker 1: solid proof Robert Peaste was in Gasey's home. He wants
30:13
Speaker 1: to keep close tabs on the predator. He instructs his
30:18
Speaker 1: team to follow Gasey wherever he goes, day and night.
30:23
Speaker 3: What's interesting here is if you know your suspect is
30:27
Speaker 3: kind of baiting you in a way he thinks he's
30:30
Speaker 3: more clever than you are, then this surveillance him knowing
30:33
Speaker 3: you were watching him may actually play in your favor
30:36
Speaker 3: because he may want to do something in response to
30:39
Speaker 3: your surveillance.
30:42
Speaker 4: May speak to care.
30:42
Speaker 1: Please Cozenzach does some further investigating into Gasey's past.
30:48
Speaker 4: Have a couple questions. I want to ask you about
30:49
Speaker 4: your ex husband. You have a few minutes to talk
30:51
Speaker 4: to me.
30:52
Speaker 1: He contacts Gasey's ex wife, Carolyn. She has some very
30:57
Speaker 1: interesting things to say about her former husband. While they
31:01
Speaker 1: were married, Gasey would often go out without explanation, and
31:05
Speaker 1: as their marriage began to fall apart, he stopped concealing
31:09
Speaker 1: his sexual appetites, even telling her the kind of young
31:13
Speaker 1: men he preferred.
31:15
Speaker 3: Carol had seen wild mood swings, had seen acts of
31:18
Speaker 3: violence in the course of their marriage, but when she
31:19
Speaker 3: discovered that he had a sexual appetite that she wasn't
31:22
Speaker 3: aware of, that changed everything.
31:26
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's not all. She tells Lieutenant Cosenzach that
31:31
Speaker 1: a former employee of Gacy, Johnny Bukovich, also disappeared under
31:36
Speaker 1: mysterious circumstances.
31:38
Speaker 4: You need to pay me right now.
31:40
Speaker 1: At the time, Gasey was questioned and dismissed as a suspect,
31:47
Speaker 1: But now it's very suspicious. The list of missing boys
31:54
Speaker 1: connected to Gaycy gross bigger and bigger.
32:02
Speaker 4: Oh, missus peast.
32:04
Speaker 1: Then cozin Zach gets his big break when Robert Peaste's
32:08
Speaker 1: mother checks in on the status of the case and
32:10
Speaker 1: she has some new information.
32:12
Speaker 4: Robbie had a receipt.
32:14
Speaker 1: She remembers that the night her son disappeared, a coworker
32:18
Speaker 1: put a Nissan Pharmacy film developing receipt into the pocket
32:21
Speaker 1: of Robert's blue coat. Cozin Zach is stunned. He races
32:28
Speaker 1: over to the table of evidence, and right there, in
32:31
Speaker 1: an evidence back is a Nissan Pharmacy film developing receipt.
32:38
Speaker 1: It's the smoking gun he's been searching for. He immediately
32:43
Speaker 1: calls the pharmacy and confirms.
32:46
Speaker 2: One, three, four nine. It is a match. Fantastic, thank you.
32:50
Speaker 1: The numbers on the receipt found in Gasey's home perfectly
32:54
Speaker 1: matched the film envelope at the store. Gacy said he
32:57
Speaker 1: never even met the teenager, but this is undeniable evidence
33:02
Speaker 1: Robert Peaste was in Gaysey's home. Cozen Zach believes without
33:07
Speaker 1: a doubt that Gaysey is responsible for the disappearance of
33:10
Speaker 1: Robert Peaste and several other young men, but without a
33:15
Speaker 1: body or proof, Gasey harned the missing teenager. Getting a
33:19
Speaker 1: second search warrant will be tough. Amazingly, cozen Zach gets
33:27
Speaker 1: help from Gaysey himself. The contractor becomes very cocky, even
33:34
Speaker 1: inviting the officers inside his home.
33:38
Speaker 2: How bold is that? How risky is that? But for him,
33:44
Speaker 2: in his mind, he thinks, I have got all of
33:48
Speaker 2: this completely under control.
33:53
Speaker 3: There's a cat and mouse relationship here, it seems, between
33:56
Speaker 3: Gaysey and the detectives who he invites into his house
33:58
Speaker 3: at some point to say, Hey, you can't make a
34:01
Speaker 3: case against me. I'm clever enough to be able to
34:02
Speaker 3: avoid detection. I'm clever enough to be able to fool you.
34:06
Speaker 4: Well, fellas, what can I do for you?
34:09
Speaker 2: We appreciate you giving us a moment of your time,
34:12
Speaker 2: mister Gasey, just have a couple of routine questions to
34:15
Speaker 2: ask you, hoping you might be able to help us out.
34:17
Speaker 3: I'm always trying to develop probable cause for the next
34:20
Speaker 3: search Worn. The problem is right now I've not enough
34:22
Speaker 3: probable cause to do a search Worn. But if you're
34:25
Speaker 3: going to invite me in, well, then trust me, I'm
34:27
Speaker 3: going to find a way to look for the pieces
34:29
Speaker 3: of evidence. I need to have the probable cause to
34:32
Speaker 3: do an in depth search.
34:33
Speaker 4: The house business gone by the way.
34:35
Speaker 3: Oh, it's good.
34:35
Speaker 4: It's good. Business is booming.
34:37
Speaker 2: I got about fifteen employees right now. Takes up a
34:40
Speaker 2: lot of my time, though, keeps me away from my passion.
34:42
Speaker 1: As the men talk, the topic quickly turns to Gaysey's
34:46
Speaker 1: love for clowns.
34:47
Speaker 3: I'm a professional clown on weekends for charities, kids parties.
34:51
Speaker 4: Pulled over the clown.
34:53
Speaker 1: Then, out of the blue, Gasey says something that shows
34:56
Speaker 1: just how little he fears the law.
35:00
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, detective, I tell you, clouds are where it's at.
35:04
Speaker 4: A cloud can get away with murder.
35:09
Speaker 1: While one officer keeps him talking, another steps away to
35:12
Speaker 1: use the bathroom, and just as he flushes, the heating
35:18
Speaker 1: vents suddenly kick on. A strangely sweet, putrid odor seeps
35:25
Speaker 1: into the room. There's no denying that smell, and it's
35:30
Speaker 1: coming from under the house. It smells like a morgue.
35:38
Speaker 3: If I'm the investigator, there's a bone chilling moment here.
35:40
Speaker 3: There's a moment, an aha moment that's horrific, And that's
35:43
Speaker 3: that moment when you actually smell death coming up from
35:46
Speaker 3: the heater underneath the house. Death has a particular smell,
35:49
Speaker 3: and you learn it pretty quickly as an investigator, even
35:51
Speaker 3: if you haven't worked a case where someone's been dead
35:53
Speaker 3: for a period of days, if you do an autops
35:54
Speaker 3: or go to an autopsy has an investigator, you're gonna
35:57
Speaker 3: smell that. And once you've smelled it once, you never
36:00
Speaker 3: get it. Death's got a very particular smell, and virtually
36:03
Speaker 3: nothing else can account for that smell.
36:06
Speaker 1: Kidd it, it's all Lieutenant cozen Zach needs. Gaysey's criminal
36:11
Speaker 1: record involving young boys, the matching photo receipt from this
36:16
Speaker 1: on pharmacy, and the deathly odor coming from under his
36:20
Speaker 1: home is enough proof to get a second search warrant. Meanwhile,
36:28
Speaker 1: as if Gasey knows they're closing in, his behavior becomes
36:31
Speaker 1: more and more erratic. He drives recklessly, Then suddenly he
36:39
Speaker 1: veers off the road, walks up to a total stranger,
36:44
Speaker 1: and slides a bag of drugs into his back pocket,
36:48
Speaker 1: right in front of police.
36:50
Speaker 2: He is an individual who has a very very high
36:54
Speaker 2: opinion of himself. I think he's very narcissistic.
36:57
Speaker 1: I'm untouchable.
36:59
Speaker 2: The police simply haven't got the wherewithal to do anything
37:03
Speaker 2: with me.
37:06
Speaker 1: Amazingly, with all the evidence mounting against Gaysey in the
37:09
Speaker 1: disappearance of several young men.
37:12
Speaker 4: It's really a nasenceinrity.
37:14
Speaker 1: It's a simple drug offense that gets him arrested. Now
37:23
Speaker 1: with Gaysey in custody and armed with a new search warrant,
37:26
Speaker 1: this time with a team of evidence technicians, cozen Zak
37:31
Speaker 1: has entered Gaisey's home again and there's no question where
37:36
Speaker 1: they'll begin the search, the crawl space under the house.
37:42
Speaker 3: This is a missing person's investigation, so you're looking for
37:45
Speaker 3: the person who's missing, and that means you're looking for
37:47
Speaker 3: a body, especially if you think you've smell death coming
37:50
Speaker 3: from underneath this house. To begin with, your fear is
37:53
Speaker 3: probably that there's a dead person under the house.
38:00
Speaker 1: They begin digging in the hard pack dirt. Almost immediately
38:06
Speaker 1: they find something truly horrifying, a human bone. And the
38:17
Speaker 1: more they dig, the more they find. It's not just
38:27
Speaker 1: one victim. There are dozens of bodies.
38:34
Speaker 3: He had a graveyard underneath his house. When we typically
38:40
Speaker 3: read about these kinds of gruesome fines, we read about
38:43
Speaker 3: it very briefly. It's in a newspaper article, but you
38:45
Speaker 3: don't put yourself in the position of the people who
38:47
Speaker 3: actually had to do it. I think when you work
38:50
Speaker 3: a case in which you get to a crime scene
38:52
Speaker 3: that's horrific, where the level of mayhem that's been performed
38:56
Speaker 3: is just beyond the pale. Those are the ones that
38:59
Speaker 3: are the hardest to process. The investigators, the detectives who
39:04
Speaker 3: actually had to sift through this evidence, had to touch
39:06
Speaker 3: the bodies, had to move these bodies. It's the kind
39:09
Speaker 3: of thing that you cannot just leave it at the
39:11
Speaker 3: crime scene. This is a horrific experience. It is very troubling.
39:14
Speaker 3: It's very hard to just do it and remain calm,
39:16
Speaker 3: remain detached.
39:21
Speaker 1: It's apparent Gaysey was too arrogant to think he'd ever
39:24
Speaker 1: get caught.
39:26
Speaker 2: He feels that he can bury his victims on his
39:30
Speaker 2: own property, under his house, which of course becomes very
39:34
Speaker 2: problematic if they're discovered. But for him, he doesn't see
39:38
Speaker 2: that as a problem because in his mind, he is
39:42
Speaker 2: so much smarter than the police that I am actually
39:46
Speaker 2: able to do this. I can actually bury people on
39:50
Speaker 2: my own property. That way, I know where they are,
39:52
Speaker 2: I have control over them, I know that the police
39:55
Speaker 2: haven't discovered them. There's no way the police are going
39:58
Speaker 2: to catch me, mister.
40:05
Speaker 1: Gay cozen Zach returns to police headquarters and confronts Gaisy
40:09
Speaker 1: with their discovery.
40:11
Speaker 2: We found multiple bodies.
40:13
Speaker 1: Cozin Zach is staring into the cold, dead eyes of
40:17
Speaker 1: a psychopath.
40:19
Speaker 2: One of the hallmarks of being a psychopath is this
40:23
Speaker 2: complete lack of remorse for the victims and their abject
40:32
Speaker 2: lack of empathy for the victims. They simply do not care.
40:37
Speaker 2: What they're interested in is what's important to them. So
40:41
Speaker 2: if torturing somebody is important to them, then they're going
40:46
Speaker 2: to engage in it. Killing somebody means almost nothing to them.
40:51
Speaker 1: What he was on pain kind of had it coming.
40:55
Speaker 2: In Gaysey's case, despite the fact that the police had
40:59
Speaker 2: dug up these victims out of his crawl space and
41:03
Speaker 2: from underneath his house, Gaysey is completely unaffected by the
41:09
Speaker 2: enormity of what he's done.
41:12
Speaker 4: I showed him the rope trick.
41:13
Speaker 2: You use a rope, but if you just use your hands,
41:16
Speaker 2: they struggle way too much. If it feels good to Gaycy,
41:19
Speaker 2: that's all that matters. How the victim feels is unimportant.
41:26
Speaker 2: The victim is just a tool I'm using to feel good,
41:29
Speaker 2: and when I'm done with the victim, I just dispose
41:32
Speaker 2: of them. They're just like trash. I get rid of them,
41:35
Speaker 2: and I don't have any more concern about dumping this
41:39
Speaker 2: young man under my house and throwing quickline on him
41:42
Speaker 2: than I would have with throwing away a cardboard box.
41:45
Speaker 2: You do a little double loop and you put a
41:47
Speaker 2: stick in there and then you twist it.
41:50
Speaker 1: Gacy casually admits he strangled Robert Peaste and threw his
41:53
Speaker 1: body off a bridge, just like a piece of garbage.
41:58
Speaker 2: There was no room under the house for serial offenders.
42:01
Speaker 2: People are simply objects to be used, to be stepped on,
42:04
Speaker 2: to be hurt, and there's no empathy, no thought about that.
42:09
Speaker 2: They're predators and they are only out for themselves. And
42:14
Speaker 2: because they have this complete lack of empathy, they simply
42:19
Speaker 2: can murder somebody in a most cruel and unusual way
42:24
Speaker 2: and then moments later be completely unbothered by this. You're
42:31
Speaker 2: in your arrests.
42:35
Speaker 4: You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say
42:38
Speaker 4: will be used against you in the court of law.
42:40
Speaker 1: Disgusted, Lieutenant Cosenzach reads him his rights and arrests him
42:44
Speaker 1: from murder. The scale of Gasey's butchery is unimaginable. Police
42:53
Speaker 1: find a total of twenty seven bodies in his home,
42:58
Speaker 1: twenty six buried in the crawl, with one additional victim
43:03
Speaker 1: hidden underneath the concrete of his garage. It's Johnny Bukovich,
43:12
Speaker 1: the young man who disappeared three years ago after arguing
43:15
Speaker 1: with Gaysey.
43:18
Speaker 2: If you would look at it in terms of possession
43:21
Speaker 2: and control, even in death, he has control of these
43:26
Speaker 2: victims because they're right there, they're right under his house.
43:30
Speaker 2: He knows where they are, and that that really is
43:33
Speaker 2: the ultimate in control.
43:36
Speaker 1: But these are only some of Gaysey's victims. The serial
43:40
Speaker 1: killer confesses he ran out of room under his home.
43:43
Speaker 2: Oh that digging hell on it back, and.
43:46
Speaker 1: Began dumping dead bodies into the des Plaines River.
43:50
Speaker 2: He thought about putting bodies in his attic, but thought
43:52
Speaker 2: that would become problematic. So really, as a matter of
43:56
Speaker 2: simply disposing of the bodies, he actually started taking into
43:59
Speaker 2: the river, throwing them off the bridge.
44:04
Speaker 1: How many he can't remember, And one missing body police
44:09
Speaker 1: are desperate to recover is Robert Peaste.
44:13
Speaker 3: This whole search was dictated by a missing person. So
44:16
Speaker 3: the first thing you're looking for, and this kind of
44:17
Speaker 3: a search, is a body, and that's what they're actually
44:21
Speaker 3: looking for. Evidentially is the remains of something they can
44:24
Speaker 3: identify as a human body.
44:31
Speaker 1: Over the next five months, police pull body after body
44:34
Speaker 1: out of the river. Then finally they discover young Robert's remains,
44:41
Speaker 1: and in a cruel twist of fate, his final resting
44:45
Speaker 1: place is in an area of the river he and
44:47
Speaker 1: his father used to travel by canoe. It's much needed
44:52
Speaker 1: closure for the victims' families and Lieutenant Joe Cosenzak. At
44:58
Speaker 1: least now he will finally answer for his crimes. March
45:06
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, after five weeks of testimony for more than
45:10
Speaker 1: one hundred witnesses, jurors began deliberations. There was no doubt
45:15
Speaker 1: Gasey killed all of the boys, but was he legally
45:19
Speaker 1: insane when he did it?
45:24
Speaker 3: Gaysey ultimately admitted to these killings. So the issue is
45:27
Speaker 3: not whether he did it or not. The issue is
45:29
Speaker 3: was he crazy? Is that his excuse? Can he use
45:31
Speaker 3: insanity as his plea? Can he use insanity as his
45:33
Speaker 3: way out of any kind of a criminal charge. The problem,
45:39
Speaker 3: of course, is if you look at the history of
45:41
Speaker 3: how he did these murders in methodical way, He's got
45:44
Speaker 3: a very consistent pattern. He does things exact same way.
45:47
Speaker 3: Only when he makes small changes in his pattern does
45:49
Speaker 3: he exposed himself to risk. These are the maneuvers of
45:52
Speaker 3: somebody who's clever, not crazy.
45:55
Speaker 1: In just two hours, jurors returned a verdict.
46:00
Speaker 4: The defendant, John Wayne Gacy.
46:02
Speaker 1: Guilty on all thirty three counts of first degree murder.
46:07
Speaker 3: What's fascinating about Gaycy, like other serial killers, is the
46:12
Speaker 3: fact that no one suspected him until investigators actually did
46:15
Speaker 3: an investigation. It's really hard for people to imagine that
46:19
Speaker 3: guy could do that. Really, you're telling me that this
46:22
Speaker 3: guy who I know and I go to business meetings with,
46:24
Speaker 3: and I've been involved in political fundraisers with. I know
46:28
Speaker 3: this guy pretty well, he's capable of that.
46:30
Speaker 2: No way.
46:31
Speaker 4: It shocks us.
46:32
Speaker 2: What people really want is when we have a serial killer,
46:36
Speaker 2: when we have this really disturbing series of murders, we
46:41
Speaker 2: want the behavior in that crime to match the complexity
46:46
Speaker 2: of the offender. We want to see the monster. We
46:49
Speaker 2: want to be able to recognize that we are dealing
46:52
Speaker 2: with a serial killer.
46:54
Speaker 4: The fact is.
46:55
Speaker 2: That almost never happens. It almost never happens. The reason
47:01
Speaker 2: that these individuals are so successful is that they look
47:04
Speaker 2: just like you and I. They aren't the monster. They're
47:07
Speaker 2: your next door neighbor who has that secret life. They've
47:11
Speaker 2: got the public life, and that's the life they like.
47:14
Speaker 2: You see, That's why neighbors are always talking about on
47:17
Speaker 2: television shows. He seemed like the nicest guy. He always
47:21
Speaker 2: said hi to me in the morning. He was always
47:23
Speaker 2: walking his dog, took care of his garden. That's the
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Speaker 2: public face that we get to see for these guys.
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Speaker 2: We never get to see the private life or the
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Speaker 2: secret life for these individuals, and it's very disturbing for people.
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Speaker 2: They want to know that if I see a serial killer,
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Speaker 2: I can recognize him, it's never going to happen. That's
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Speaker 2: what makes serial killers successful is that they don't look
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Speaker 2: like the monster. They just look like you and me,
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Speaker 2: and sometimes really, you know, they're they're the antithesis of
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Speaker 2: what we would think a serial offender should be like.
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Speaker 4: It's hereby recommended that to defendant be executed.
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Speaker 1: John Wayne Gacy, considered one of the most vicious serial
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Speaker 1: killers in US history, was sentenced to death.
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Speaker 2: Even when they're pushing the cocktail, the deadly cocktail, into
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Speaker 2: his arm he's being executed, he still is taking control.
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Speaker 2: He still tells them kiss my ass. He still thinks
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Speaker 2: that he's in control, and that really was the hallmark
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Speaker 2: of his entire career.
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Speaker 1: Gasey's vile acts, his unquenchable appetite for young men and murder,
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Speaker 1: and his bizarre fascination with a favorite children's entertainer clowns,
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Speaker 1: has completely changed the way we see these previously innocent
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Speaker 1: painted performers, and this new face of horror continues to
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Speaker 1: inspire countless villains, each one more disturbing than the last.
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Speaker 3: There's something horrific about the clown fa the Gaysy represents,
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Speaker 3: and our culture has kind of exploited that. You'll see
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Speaker 3: costumes now on Halloween that are evil clown costumes that
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Speaker 3: all stems and starts with Gazy.
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Speaker 2: That's what makes serial killers successful is that they don't
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Speaker 2: look like the monster, and sometimes really you know they're
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Speaker 2: They're the antithesis of what we would think a serial
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Speaker 2: offender should be, like.
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Speaker 1: A mass grave of missing boys, sadistic sexual torture, and
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Speaker 1: a clown obsessed murderer behind it. All these things shouldn't
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Speaker 1: be real, but they are. It's the true story of
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Speaker 1: John Wayne Gacy, the original killer clown behind the screens