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Making Sense Of Evil With Joshua Wilson · Urantia Radio

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So, welcome to this edition of the Rancher.
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Radio podcast were very excited to bring back brother.
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Joshua Wilson. And he offers incredible insight
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as to not only the conditions that we find ourselves in today
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and this very challenging World. There is evil rampant in the
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world. And along the way, we'll talk
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about some other fascinating subjects that I know you're
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going to enjoy. And so now I'm into what I, what
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I wanted to talk about today, mainly if I can find it is the
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I'm lack of Justice from paper 54, why God allows evil to
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happen. So it opens like this Joshua and
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then we can just kind of talked about it.
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He says the moral will creatures of the evolutionary worlds are
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always bothered with the unthinking question as to why
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the all-wise creators permit evil and sin.
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And I know I have people who don't believe in God because of
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that, I know that they say. Well, if there's a God, why does
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all this bad stuff happen? Right, I'm sure.
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You know that too. Right.
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And then the writer writes paper 54.
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He says, they fail to comprehend that both are inevitable.
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If the creature is to be truly free, their Free Will of
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evolving, man. Or Exquisite Angel, is not a
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mere philosophic concept. A symbolic ideal man's ability
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to choose, good or evil is a universe reality.
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This Liberty is chosen for oneself and it's an endowment of
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the Supreme rulers and they will not permit any Being or group of
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beings to deprive a single personality in the wide universe
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of this divinely. Bestowed Liberty.
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So, the Constitution is, right? We were endowed by our creator,
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that's not just some philosophical idea, and that's
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what I did and Liberty. Yeah, with, with personal
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Liberty, and it's because it's the only way that God knows for
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sure what your intentions are. And so, if you believe in God,
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and that's where you get your Or Liberty from and you can't
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believe in government that gives you your Liberty.
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But that's what government wants you to believe is that your
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Liberty comes from them? Because they don't believe in
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God, petition says, we are endowed by the Creator.
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Well, they got lucky because it happens to be true according to
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the Rancho book and so free will is the problem.
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That's the problem. That's so this this quote that
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you just read Jim. It says that I'm thinking
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Thinking, yeah, they bring up this question.
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Why does this happen? Or how does this happen?
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Because they haven't thought it through now, some people like
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the author Byron bullets us? Yes, who wrote your evolving
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Soul? He and I have been talking over
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the years. We've been good friends for
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years and he's I don't want to speak too soon because he's just
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about ready to release a new book, the deals need this very
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topic. Yeah, you know, this choice is
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choosing And what's God's activity in the midst of this
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choice and the troubles and travails.
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So some people are thinking like like Byron and we appreciate him
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that because he's going to give us a theological viewpoint on
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the ranch. A book is a great Revelation to
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us to sort out these difficulties.
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But yeah you're right. It's a big question and that's
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why a lot of people said well I just can't believe in a god
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anymore. Anyhow, if things like this, can
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go on, but they need to think it through and let their heart
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speak to their mind. Here's what Byron boletos wrote
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in his upcoming book, which I have a an advance copy of.
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Okay, you ready? I knew you were going to bring
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this up so I was lucky. I had it at my fingertips.
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He writes again, love must be freely given to be genuine.
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Thus, the possibility of choosing hate is an
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indispensable condition of achieving the outcome of Love in
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this scenario. It is crucial to understand that
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God is only responsible for the possibility of evil.
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And that creatures alone are to blame for the actualizing of
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evil. Yeah, and that's something and
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you're here. Thank you, you know, touche,
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thank you Byron. So you know, I'm right with you
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there because that that is the challenges, like we have a
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tendency to want to blame something else for our own
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behavior. Oh, it must be Lucifer.
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It must be Satan. And I'm not saying that these
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guys aren't bad. Actors they are.
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But yeah, according to our Angela.
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What is clear on this? And I've had share this with a
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Christians and people I've worked with throughout Years in
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various Ministries and tell them that would people commit the
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wrong kind of actions and deeds. You read your book says that
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generally, these are are Mortals that are LED astray by their own
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inherent Tendencies not because they're under the influence of
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devils and demons. As I just had to tell the
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straight out to people. When they would come up with the
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idea, basically like that old Flip Wilson comedian line.
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The devil made me do it. You know, so the like that now
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at this is your own Tennessee's. However, we're in an environment
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that's become almost like immersed over hundreds of
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thousands of years in some really bad Concepts in this.
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What we're trying to dig ourselves out and at some point
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I do want to throw a couple. Quotes at you about that subject
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because Liberty is is if I can find it here at all, probably
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find it here, but it basically says that you have Liberty to
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make a decision, but that doesn't necessarily mean that
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you're free to make any decision.
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You want to, you have an obligation also, a cosmological
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obligation to others, you know? And this is where people get
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into trouble is like, for example, You know, people with
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good intentions make mess things up all the time.
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You know, I'm sure that Lucifer thought it was a great idea that
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everybody could just do whatever they want to do and not give any
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kind of consideration to any kind of spiritual obligations.
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I mean, people love freedom, the spirit Liberties man, but we can
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also inflict great harm on people when we make choices.
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You know, for example if a child comes to you and says I think
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I'm a boy and it's a girl and you Unable or affirm that child.
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You may think that you're doing something good for that child
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but what you might not understand is that child might
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be making a decision that could harm the rest of their life and
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so you have to be the adult in the room and say, okay, what is
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the possibility that my child was born into the wrong body?
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How would they know? Of course, it's not trying to
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turn this into a discussion about that because that's kind
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of a political, but it's an example.
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Sample of Liberty gone too far. Yeah, so celebrity in that case,
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swings over to the site of what the book calls self-assertion as
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opposed to self-transcendence, we might say.
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So what? Where is the self-assertion and
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false Liberty as compared to True Liberty.
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Well, net example, you just gave a little five-year-old is
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starting to assert some Or ten-year-old and say, you know
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I'm gonna go with. Well I'm just going to choose my
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gender now and then the adult in the room is also having a kind
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of self assertion by saying, well I'm going to go ahead and
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is assert what I think think is My Free Will and Liberty and
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latitude to allow this child to do it.
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Okay. Well actually this is a form of
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child abuse. We have Counselors in my own
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family, my own daughters who work in this realm actually of
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sexual problems and addictions. And so it's a topic of
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conversation that we've had over the years and we totally
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recognize it. So the adults responsibility is
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to guide that child in the early years of their life and it's
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like they're going down a hallway and there's doors on the
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right and there's doors on the left and this responsibility of
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the Dalton their parent and the parent to keep those door.
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Shut until that child is far enough along the way that they
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can think like an adult as they become 16 and 18, their brain
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really isn't developed in the mail until they're about 25.
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Literally not developed. I'm talking about the wiring of
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the brain. Yeah.
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No, I think you're absolutely right.
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And and to me this whole this not just one movement but it's a
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lot of ideologies that are all being embraced and and they
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represent to me crisis in the way that we view life you know.
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Because again if you are did to have this notion that your, your
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freedom, Is more important than everybody else's.
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Freedom is bound to cause problems.
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And that's another interesting thing.
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Why does God allow things to happen?
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Well, we're a family. And in any family, you have some
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kids that do great in some kids that don't, but everybody has to
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work together in that family, because if one of your kids does
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great, you're going to benefit But one of your kids making a
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mistake, what you don't, you don't get affected by that.
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That wouldn't be fair because it doesn't motivate you to want to
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make sure that that child is reared and love and and like
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what you were saying. Make sure that they're taught to
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Rick to make the right decisions.
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And that's why I think we're having the disparity.
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We have one part of the world that thinks that totalitarianism
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is the way to go and screw free. Will we just need to manage the
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for the greater good. And to hell with Liberty, then
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you have another part of the world.
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Would we want all of our liberties to the point where
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almost suicidal There's no clear guidance and the commonality
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between both is that God isn't in the room.
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That's what I've been arguing with.
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People is the reason we're having the problems we're having
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today is because God is not in the room anymore.
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That is not part of the discussion on a national level
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on a local level. When you talk about homelessness
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drug addiction, any kind of social ill at the root of it is
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that that person is lost and they don't have a clear vision
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of what their life is about. And to me The Rancher book,
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clearly states were all in this creative process of bringing
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into existence, the Supreme Being.
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And we get to be a part of that process.
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We are co-creators and that process walking around with that
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on my head is made this life a lot more interesting.
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Oh, yeah. And I think we're seeing some
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pushback. Now, thankfully and this is one
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of the ideas of letting evil just to have free course, which
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was the universe mother's instruction not to Cure or to
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cover up the ugly visit judge of what's going on.
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And this is all the way up into Supremacy.
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The, the advice for our universe was not just let it let it go
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because you have to see a soon as possible, what's going on.
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So that this could be uprooted in the hearts of those that have
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been deceived and do not have God in the room.
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And then we make a space and an opening for God to come into our
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lives. Coming to our families, and
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bring love, and mercy. And to our families, I'd like to
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read to you something that's out of the the introduction to a
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book called Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky and that the one
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that has all that controversy with Hillary Clinton and Obama,
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that was her thesis and you know, okay, you brought it up.
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I wasn't You brought it up? Yeah.
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That was she did her thesis on that, but this is a shocker, I
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have a copy of the book, and I think he to Lucifer, doesn't he?
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Yeah, I've got it right here. So I take it to study group.
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So I says guys, you know, this is how deep and how close we
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have come to this. I'm going to go ahead and read
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it to you. This is Saul alinsky's
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acknowledgement at the front of the book and he says from all of
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our Legends mythology, G and history.
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The first radical known to man who rebelled Against The
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Establishment and did it. So effectively that he at least
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one his own kingdom Lucifer, You don't think that's all of it.
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That's, that's the radical. That's the rebel.
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That's the Revolutionary. Recognize the original one,
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which people like, this is soulless key, sixth book, and
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his final book, and it became very popular.
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And so it was taken up as a means, this is how we can do.
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The energy organizing. This is how we can rally people
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around the cause that we have any, he gives his instructions
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about how to do that. So this is mortifying and
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conquers one of them to, you know.
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Yeah, put people into little groups and have them, you know,
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one of my favorite quotes from Jordan Pederson, if you're a fan
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of Jordan Peterson is indeed, I am he says, the differences
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between groups has far less than the differences within each
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group which is why Why in society today, you see what's
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happening with Kanye West. He says a few things.
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First of all, the left didn't like him because he like Jesus.
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So they guy not the left but people who are secular or
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atheist, I should say left because I think that goes deeper
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than that because there are a lot of people that are
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progressive that are beautiful people and so there's a lot of
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common at look. Like I said, the difference is
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between groups are far less than the differences between members
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of each group. So they tend to attack each
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other and Their own, which is what we're watching now, there
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was somebody else that just got recently lambasted for
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something, you did 30 years ago and his career is gone.
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Some highfalutin, super reactionary and massive
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cancellation. Yeah, of people, it seems to be
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the soup du jour these days. This is the way you can do it.
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And and this, so this is also why we need alternative media.
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Which I feel like you're a part of you, give another, I am your
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point, the god Viewpoint and I really love it.
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Appreciate it that we can and all the discussions that you've
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had recently with people, I just love listening to it.
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What are you up to these days? What are you doing?
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What are you involved with? You know yesterday I had a
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conversation with the young man in his 20s over zoom and who
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needed some encouragement the day before was talking with
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somebody. Else tonight?
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I'm getting together with a small group, family group to
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talk about our camp that we put together up, North Mount Sarah
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F. Yesterday I was in discussions
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with an artist who's doing a book cover for novel that I've
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written called van and amadon is Garden.
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No way. Really tell me about its I've
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been working on it for a while. 65,000 words, it's pretty much
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in the can. It's under Beta reading right
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now, which is where readers take, you know, the first reads
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through a book and give you their comments, so I could go on
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and on and, but it's something every day, uplifting and then a
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nonfiction and fiction, a little above, okay?
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This is a wedding that Madonna's Garden is what you call
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historical fiction. Okay.
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So I write the story line and fill in all the details in
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between, but it's based on historical occurrences as we
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know them. From the ranch a book The go
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back five hundred thousand years.
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Yeah lenihan history. Yeah yeah.
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The lives of the van and a hero of the no kidding.
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That was a great movie. Wouldn't you think just a know
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that's what is for this? So we can take the story into a
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book move it into storyboards and it could be the useful
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event. Actually, for screenplay for a
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movie because that would be the ultimate, we would love that.
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First thing is to get the story line out an interesting manner.
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So those are some of the things you have, but just some of them.
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Well, would you say earlier, you wake up every morning, what am I
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going to do to further along the Revelation?
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What, what have I done? What have you done for the
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Revelation to that enough? Not enough really, seriously the
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kids. It's just that we do something.
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We move things along. Yeah, and more.
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So also although I'd love everybody in my life, to read
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the Rancher book. I know that's not going to
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happen, but that doesn't mean, I can't try to use the principles
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and when people need the information or need an idea or
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an Insight, I can give it to him, you know, right?
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That's the key. You know, in my working
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relationship, I still think one of my favorite passages and
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maybe we should do a subject on that, but the, the second disc
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Course of religion, that Jesus gives to his Apostles and paper
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155 and he says, not all callings are religious, some are
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secular, but to a man who has gotten his life, everything is
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spiritual and that's right. You know?
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And that's such a wonderful kernel of Truth wherever you are
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in your life, you know? Yeah.
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You can you can be that ambassador of the spiritual
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Kingdom and that just means that your Universal Citizen and
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you're you. You're looking at the Eternal,
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you know, reality is not just the time consumed constrained
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realities of oh I gotta pay my mortgage and you know my
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girlfriend gonna want to see me tonight all that stuff the will
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of God can be done in any arthelene, a occupation and
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people are listening and I get people writing me and that have
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heard me on this broadcast with you Jim because I always give
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out my email address Musical. At Cox dotnet and Cox dot now.
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I mean, I got a message from a fellow in prison from our last
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broadcast and we've been in correspondence together and it
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goes on, so whatever the occupation or no occupation, in
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that case because of prison constraints, it doesn't matter.
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The will of God can be done there and this is proven To me
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over and over again. And I just love communicating
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and working with people. And right, it's not the ratchet
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book, per se that we're sharing, we're sharing the good news, the
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gospel love Mercy. It could be in the supermarket
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line and a woman ahead of of you might be just looking through or
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anything at all. I'm parched trying to find a
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quarter or a dime or a nickel and you just hand over ten
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dollars. It's a look.
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I'll cover it and those ripples just go out.
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It could be anything like like that.
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And it may not mean like here I have your answer book right?
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You know it could be something that they just need right at
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that moment at that moment and that just makes them reflect and
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get their their faith restored that not all human beings are
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jerks, you know, which sometimes we need reminders because we see
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a jerk Parade on TV everyday jerk or a, that's good.
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Anyway, I had a friend of mine, I want to get is something that
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we probably should get to. Because it's something that I
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have not talked about, we talked about Lucifer, we talked about
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Satan and the historical record of the Year.
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Ancha presentation is that they are both imprisoned on the
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Father's World, which is in Jerusalem.
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It's why the satellite World circulates around and they're
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like rizu and ascenders can go visit them.
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And there's probably a sign that says, please don't feed the
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animals. There's Warning.
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I hope I'm, you know, but but there Remains The Mystery of
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caligastia. Yes.
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Okay, so Lucifer was interned about the time of Jesus,
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resurrection and Lucifer. I do research with various
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readers and he's at least five billion years old, Andre
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probably much much more. But if because it's hard to
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tell, Yeah, that's what we're actually going into existence or
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salvington. Yeah, it's a time when the
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system capitals architectural, worlds were built and we can
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extrapolate somewhere between five billion and 200 billion,
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but he's really old. Okay.
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So he was, he was interned about the time of Jesus Ascension,
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resurrection, and Ascension from Earth.
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Satan was interned in the on to the same prison world around
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1930. And there's evidence of
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satanists that we're looking for, Satan's, at periodic visit
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every 20 years, or so. And all of a sudden he quit
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showing up, people like Aleister Crowley and individuals that
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were, were on that kind of a plane.
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Well, but that's over. He's got, but then we get to
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this devilish personality known as caligastia who was given free
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rein to, to exercise. His nefarious programs and he is
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still free on Earth. And so it's something we have to
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deal with but the book says that he cannot approach the faith
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Sons and Daughters of God because faith is an effective
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shield and the presence of the thought adjusters is effective.
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But my question is, what about those?
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The do want to be cursed with his nefarious.
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Presents as we go up the pyramid or the hierarchy.
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And we keep moving up governments, heads of
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governments World economic forum, and then we keep moving
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up, Tighter and Tighter up at the top of the pyramid.
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And then the people disappear, we don't know who they are.
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We don't who we don't know their names, but the other ones that
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are pulling the strings and those are the ones that probably
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still do meet. Emily with caligastia and they
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make plans, they work out projects that they would like to
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implement on the face of the Earth and various top rulers
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are. Then given a rewards for being
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in League with the devil as we might say as so what we're
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hoping for on Earth is for that type of activity to end in all
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Sympathy for the Devil and for the luciferian programs were set
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in place. Time ago to eventually
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evaporate. So that's that's kind of what's
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happening with that Jim. And I mean okay well I have a
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couple questions. So number one is, if you had
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anybody ever admit to you that they have done that or even
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somebody who maybe who has admitted to some someone you
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know that you trust that there is that sort of relationship
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going on with caligastia because I've never heard of that.
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Yeah the people that I come in contact with If you come in
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contact with on a day-to-day basis, some are weak and
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dissolute morals, who Mortals. Who feel like their life is
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taken over by evil. And they may even be involved in
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Satanic rituals or satanic Satanic ritual abuse and things
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like this. But these people, they're not.
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No, I agree. I don't think they're actually
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in contact with. Star Chambers somewhere and
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Bulgaria, you know, with thunder and lightning.
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And Here Comes The Apparition of, you know, caligastia good
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job my children. Now, I don't think that's going
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on now. It's not like in the movie.
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This is something that's that happens in visibly on very high
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levels, but we feel the impact of it, as it comes down into our
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institutions. What's that?
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Fortunately is what I call, institutionalized evil, what is
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it? To get caligastia wants to prove
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that Lucifer was right. That the whole the whole plan is
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or does he want Power? Because you want to feel like
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he's got purpose in his life, being the prince, the default on
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Prince of Urantia. What's his motivation?
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Yeah, well he's going to kill goes into iniquity, it's a
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mystery. That's a very, very potent
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question but it's a mystery. What motivates, what could
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possibly motivate? Elevate an individual like that.
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But your answer book says that the iniquitous person they move
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from error to evil, then they get the willful sin and then
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repeated Santa becomes iniquitous and that type of
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individual, it's very unlikely that they will turn back because
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they've gone so far in self-assertion that they just
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can't find a way to turn back the word last act that Jesus did
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before he left. Tarth you can picture, he's on
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Mount Hermon, it's the day of his Ascension.
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He says goodbye to his Apostles and as he's, if you can imagine
27:06
it rising from the earth. The last thing he does is he one
27:11
more time, he says, the caligastia and his associate
27:15
daligastia one more time. I'm offering you Mercy.
27:20
Just even at this last moment, these last seconds.
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If you want to take it I'll restore you.
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I'll put you back into universe service, you know, at and then
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he continued on his way. It's interesting that the book
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says that was the last thing that he did on Earth was to
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offer them mercy and still, it wasn't accepted laughter.
27:44
So, yeah, that's a potent question.
27:46
What goes on in their mind? It's so Just like that he goes
27:51
into iniquity. Just has to keep going their way
27:54
and have to, I guess, prove to themselves or those around them,
27:58
that this is that their doctrines false doctrines of
28:01
Liberty are the way to go. And this was sweeping, I mean,
28:06
we had seven during the Lucifer Rebellion.
28:09
There were 700,000 approximately material sons and daughters,
28:13
like our Adams and Eve's. And we think of our precious,
28:17
Adam and Eve, come to our planet.
28:19
And we love and For their contribution and their watch
28:22
care over us. Just think that there are
28:24
700,000 of those beings in our system were LED astray.
28:31
I mean, this was serious. This is real.
28:34
This was a real war in heaven when Wars are fought on earth
28:38
like in Iraq or or in Ukraine, this for four bodies and
28:43
physical eyes. But the war in heaven was for
28:46
life eternal, and these false Liberty doctrines did not only
28:52
affect the Earth, they were affecting the Mansion worlds and
28:57
then the ranch book goes on to say and to their Everlasting
29:01
shame, they didn't even exempt, the probationary nurseries,
29:06
where these 10 and 12, and 14 year olds that were growing up
29:12
and trying to preach to them these false Dawkins, I mean,
29:15
this was serious, a lot of damage was done and so that
29:20
Rebellion on those levels has been terminated.
29:23
But what we have is the aftershocks that are going on on
29:27
Earth, in our institutions of big, Agriculture and energy
29:33
policy, the unitec and social media attention to me.
29:42
And I want to jump in here. You in the original plan of
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Dalmatia. Caligastia was to set up these
29:50
Divisions as you were just mentioning.
29:53
And so you had one member of the no tights.
29:57
Well, we know them now is no died, but they were, they were
30:01
to be a charge of teaching, man. Early, man, how to grow, you
30:06
know, go from being a hunter, who heard her marriage, you know
30:10
how to coexist with a mate, raise children, all these plans
30:14
were in process for 200,000 years and then the Lucifer
30:18
Rebellion occurs Asia says, we're going to do things our way
30:22
we're in charge now and so you think that he is still in charge
30:26
of those operations. And some influential way where
30:31
this is why we have people like Bill Gates who wants everybody
30:34
to eat insects and they want to control energy.
30:37
Do you think that the caligastia or Dow daligastia has influence
30:41
over these power centers? Right now, these are, these are
30:45
the if you're going to try to run a plan, And even if you
30:49
didn't know anything about the ranch book or, but if you
30:52
understood psychology and anthropology and government, you
30:57
would come up with the same list of ten areas that need to have
31:02
control. And so in the mucky-mucks get
31:05
together at their forums. Yeah, annually.
31:08
These are the kind of areas that they still there talking about
31:11
weird stuff if you're talking about the world economic Forum
31:14
with Klaus Schwab, and that whole crowd the Davos proud,
31:18
These are people who they want a social engineer, the hell out of
31:21
this world, right? So this social engineering, just
31:25
naturally falls into these areas and these are the areas that
31:29
caligastia setup. You had 100 corporeal staff
31:34
members, you had 10 people in each of the 10 councils.
31:38
And this was how they were going to reshape the entire world
31:43
population. And when, when Dalmatia fell,
31:47
then The van reconstituted, the same 10 areas of concern and so
31:56
it doesn't matter if it was caligastia or if it was van or
31:59
if it was the good guys. Or if it was the bad guys, these
32:03
are just the basic 10 areas so he set up the Council on food
32:07
and material welfare. Well, that's big act.
32:10
Second, he said up, advisors of regarding animal domestication.
32:18
Shannon utilization, that's more about agriculture and then the
32:24
faculty on dissemination and conservation of knowledge.
32:29
Well, that's the education and the dumbing down the woke
32:32
universities, big Tech and social media.
32:36
The next was the commission on industry and trade.
32:39
Well, this is like you know when these people get together at
32:43
these forums control of business operations and banking.
32:48
Next he set up the College of revealed religion, well that has
32:52
to do with all the attempts that are going on today to subvert
32:56
religious institutions, then he set up the Guardians of health
33:01
and life. Well, that's big Pharma medical
33:04
associations. And then next, the planetary
33:08
Council and Art and Science, that's Corruption of
33:11
entertainment, Art and Science research, and then the governors
33:16
of advanced tribal relations. That's international relations,
33:21
race relations, United Nations and so forth.
33:29
So continuing what you were saying.
33:31
So the concept here is that it wouldn't be hard for a
33:36
personality like a caligastia to assert his influence over these
33:41
areas that you've been talking about especially now since the
33:45
world is interconnected in such a way where it would actually be
33:48
easier for caligastia to manipulate the outcomes if he so
33:52
wished to do so. And are you asserting that?
33:55
You think he is doing that and Ultimately, maybe the devil has
33:59
more influence than we'd like to believe what we put it this way.
34:03
If kalyug asked you were to disappear today and was to be
34:07
interned, we would still be dealing with the aftershocks of
34:13
what has happened in our institutions.
34:16
So, whether without personality, like caligastia pushing these
34:21
things forward, it takes time. And this is where the book talks
34:26
about sympathy If we wonder why it's taking so long for things
34:31
to get straightened out on our world is because it's like the
34:35
Rolling Stones song Sympathy for the Devil, you know, as long as
34:39
they're the the adjudication and check Thurston has written a
34:43
great paper on that. Anybody that wants a copy of
34:47
the, the timeline of Lucifer Rebellion can write me and I'll
34:52
send them his paper. I'll send things that I've
34:55
written Musical. Start net.
34:58
You can write me any time. So point is just to answer your
35:01
question, Jim, yes, I do think that caligastia meets
35:06
periodically with people in the other upper echelons and kind of
35:10
gives them instructions and special Insight on how they can
35:16
be more effective at Prosecuting is nefarious designs.
35:23
So, that's a quote from the Rancho Book, quote.
35:27
Then just the various designs interesting quote.
35:30
So what does that mean? Because prosecutors this to try
35:33
to put into action, his nefarious design will, I just
35:37
described the design? That's the design is to
35:40
infiltrate all the institutions they're on Earth and so, yes, I
35:45
do think it's happening. But as I said, even if he was
35:49
gone today, it would take a long time for this to get expunged in
35:54
from the minds of those that run Academia.
35:57
The University's governments, a big corporations and so on and
36:02
so forth. And this is happening in all the
36:05
other thirty-six worlds that came under the Rebellion, all of
36:11
them. And us total of 37 world's have
36:14
to reach a point where all of the inhabitants in generations
36:20
of the people on these planets, finally lose any sympathy.
36:25
Not only for the personalities. He's in turned or otherwise but
36:29
also for their Concepts that they've promulgated so many
36:34
hundreds of thousands of years ago.
36:35
But the repercussions continue like ripples or waves to go
36:40
through our society now, individuals such as yourself and
36:43
myself. We've already done that saying
36:46
now I'm I'm not going that route.
36:49
I'm not anything that ties me up with those Concepts.
36:53
I'm running not walking in the office.
36:57
A direction and we should clarify because what we're
36:59
talking about here, remembering I said, God is no longer in the
37:03
room. That's what that's what
37:05
caligastia wants. He wants us to not have God in
37:08
the room, he wants to prove in my opinion that a Godless
37:13
reality is just as valid as a god filled reality, because in
37:19
his mind, God doesn't exist. It's an illusion.
37:22
That's what is that? Something that the first point
37:25
of the looser Manifesto is that At the heavenly father does not
37:29
exist. I mean, goodness gracious.
37:33
What a way to start out, you know, with his Manifesto and
37:38
from a, from a person who's 5 million years old, Golian
37:43
billion, you know, I've only around 60 years and I think I
37:46
kind of figured it out, but you know what?
37:49
I also have plenty of time to mess up, too.
37:51
So yeah. Take heed, take heed so, anyway,
37:55
it's so great. They have this conversation with
37:58
you and I know we'll have more of them.
38:02
I think there's enough in this but we've talked about to give
38:05
people some food for thought until the next time you know,
38:09
right? So thank you, Joshua Wilson, a
38:13
great musician author is there anything you can't do my final
38:18
question? Do you cook?
38:20
I'm trying to make it as hard as possible to enter any into the
38:24
Realms of sin. I set up a roadblock.
38:27
From myself all along the way. I hope that I could say that
38:31
that would be my life's goal is to avoid that, but yeah, there's
38:35
a lot of things that there's a benefit to being kind of a
38:38
Renaissance person because we want to relate to as many people
38:42
as possible. And so that's kind of my goal.
38:45
I like the connector. Yeah, same here.
38:49
I feel the same way. I'm a tool and God's tool box.
38:54
Put me to work anyway. Until next time Josh, Joshua
38:57
Wilson. Thank you for joining me on the
38:59
ranch Radio podcast. What do you think of the new
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logo there? Okay I like the new logo because
39:05
it's got those three it looks like that's free semicircles
39:08
like like clouds sort of and it's in a blue and a white.
39:11
That's right and it made me think of the Trinity and The
39:15
Trinity Unity of God. And I love the new logo.
39:19
I love the way the program is going and how on these
39:24
communications with Center for Unity project.
39:28
So many new people that you've pulled in from all around the
39:31
world that are really doing some things in a big way for the
39:36
Revelation death and I'm just excited about how your you're
39:41
bringing these people together. I want to share I want to get as
39:43
many people that are hungry for the truth listening because we
39:47
can we can welcome them in and share what we have what we know
39:52
and then they can if it helps them get through this life, it's
39:56
not easy to. To get through this is I call
39:59
this the South Central Los Angeles of the universe.
40:03
You know if you can make it you can make it in W.
40:06
You can make it anywhere and I came from W.
40:08
So and I lived in that area and it and oh my your answer is a
40:13
bad neighborhood. It's also where I hear that
40:17
Angels really volunteer and big numbers to come here because of
40:22
the lessons, they're going to learn with our shaky world, you
40:26
know? So We do that Star Wars scene
40:29
with it. They're all in the bar and all
40:31
these creatures from different. But I think we'll be in
40:33
situations like that. And as somebody will say
40:37
different from your Ranch and suddenly the whole bar gets
40:40
quiet, World Supercross come over.
40:42
Like, what tell us about it is actually, I think it'll be of
40:46
great interest. This war things get confused
41:00
after their power ideals or morality and out there with
41:07
these natives it must be a temptation to be God because
41:15
there's a conflict in every human heart between the rational
41:20
and the irrational. Can Good and Evil.
41:26
Good does not always Triumph. Sometimes.
41:34
Darkseid, overcomes what Lincoln called better angels of our
41:39
nature. It has got a Breaking Point.
41:46
You and I