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Keyforge Vault Tour 2024 Huge Step for Keyforge or Disappointing Disaster · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Can you set up a little rocking chair so we
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  Speaker 1: can do our our like put like a little put a.
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  Speaker 2: Little blanket on him too, so you can be old
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  Speaker 2: grumpy old man Sheep.
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  Speaker 1: I want this has been in the making for years,
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  Speaker 1: but we need to do.
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  Speaker 2: Already have classes. We need to have a story time
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  Speaker 2: with Sheep. We just need somebody to film it.
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  Speaker 3: But what's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Everybody?
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  Speaker 2: I am the one, the only, the w oh okay.
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  Speaker 2: I joined here with the normal cast of misfits. We
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  Speaker 2: have the pH d of keyboards, doctor Sheep. So we
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  Speaker 2: have the one I've screwed you up smoke show, Choke shows.
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  Speaker 3: It is.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 3: We have the v Walks Walk Junior.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, key Ford community. I have no idea what they
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  Speaker 1: are doing friends, So it's going to be entertaining tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Some days I don't know what we're doing here either.
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  Speaker 2: But I wanted to do this last week and then
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  Speaker 2: we got KFC Roosevelt mild news. I've somehow lost but
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  Speaker 2: also lost my mouse cursor. That's not good.
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  Speaker 1: We had news, and that's important. It was very excited
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  Speaker 1: that news and now we can come back to the state.
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  Speaker 3: So exciting. I had to while operating my GPS, which
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure everybody loved it, which we only got one
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  Speaker 3: complaint about. Oh that's not bad, just the one.
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  Speaker 1: But I think I think that's impressive. Like in industry,
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  Speaker 1: if you only got one complaint, that's you're really good,
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  Speaker 1: You're golden.
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  Speaker 3: I bet you that means means where I was like
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  Speaker 3: at the time, like, oh, they just said whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The amount of complaints usually is the amount of relative
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  Speaker 2: you are. We're going down in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Boys.
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  Speaker 2: Actually I got a complaint too, but I don't pay
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  Speaker 2: attention to them.
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  Speaker 4: So ah.
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  Speaker 1: I think that dress board you should hold decks hostage
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  Speaker 1: just will give you random decks and if people can
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  Speaker 1: triangulate where you are in the world, they too can
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  Speaker 1: earn a deck by coming and finding you.
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  Speaker 3: Where in the world is drus course hands.
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  Speaker 2: I was going with that, but I didn't know how
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  Speaker 2: to roll off the tongue. Thank you for confirming that
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  Speaker 2: it would not be good.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was great, dres you made my night.
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  Speaker 2: We need to go through all the vault tours and
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  Speaker 2: we are going to grade them. I believe it's a
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  Speaker 2: letter grade times since the majority of vault tours are
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  Speaker 2: our vault No, you're not Vault Warriors. You're just normal archons,
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  Speaker 2: people who play key for it. There was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teachers, That's what I'm trying to get at here.
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  Speaker 2: It took a long time to get out. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna give each one a letter grade, and then
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  Speaker 2: I think overall, we're gonna give a letter grade for
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  Speaker 2: the year.
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  Speaker 3: We start out in Roseville, Minnesota. Rottville, Yeah, I came out.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. We you know, we came into all of these
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  Speaker 1: amazing names. So it was technically Roseville, Minnesota, but as
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  Speaker 1: you were putting it together, you came up with Rodville.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, I wasn't on homebrow, so that was
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  Speaker 2: a problem. So we had forty attendants total at Roseville, Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: This was an a prong march. It was pretty I
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  Speaker 2: think it was April.
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  Speaker 3: It was still this much. I do remember it was Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty much.
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  Speaker 4: April.
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  Speaker 1: It was April fifth, sixth and seven. It was fine.
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  Speaker 1: This event though, because of our atten set, forty was
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  Speaker 1: run back to back so people could play in multiple events.
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  Speaker 1: On the ark On Alliance side, we'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna play a fun game here chat we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna play a fun game called actually I want I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to. We've given this one away, but we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna play a fun game called can you figure out
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  Speaker 2: the ones that you are allowed to play in all three?
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  Speaker 2: Because there are one pretty easy, right, there's three on
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  Speaker 2: our chat. We're including gen con US Nationals. So there's
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  Speaker 2: three of these that you are allowed to play in
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  Speaker 2: all three and the one who picks it out gets
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  Speaker 2: a special prize. It might be a hug from drascoorps.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but forty total attendance, thirty two played
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  Speaker 2: and sealed, thirty six played in Arkhan, twenty nine played
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  Speaker 2: in Alliance.
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  Speaker 4: Boys.
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  Speaker 2: What can we say about Roseville? Here's one thing I
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  Speaker 2: can say. Definitely was a clusterfuck. I mean, yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: actually have some idems, but thanks for that.
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  Speaker 3: Challenges not a problem, but there was also some good stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So so we came up with this list of
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to go through, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: go through kind of the location prizing what the party was.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't venue and location kind of the same thing? Okay, Anyways,
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  Speaker 2: got a few bullet points that we want to go over. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Roosevelt was held at the Games Enter, and most people
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  Speaker 2: stayed at the Actually.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think any didn't, well maybe not.
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  Speaker 2: Most people stayed at the Double Tree, which is literally
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  Speaker 2: like next door to the Games Enter.
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  Speaker 3: Which is super convenient. Like you just walk through the backyard,
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  Speaker 3: like through the like up the hill and and you're there, right,
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  Speaker 3: You just got to make sure not to take a
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  Speaker 3: two direct route, like there's a route through like the
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  Speaker 3: weeds and the vines and like the broken glass, like
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  Speaker 3: you actually have to go around.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, So looking at this as the location,
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  Speaker 1: not super easy to be able to get to via airport,
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  Speaker 1: so that's a little bit of a restriction. Trust or
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  Speaker 1: you did fly in though, so it's not unheard of.
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  Speaker 1: There is an international airport there. A little bit of a.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty minutes yeah, at least to to get there from
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  Speaker 3: the from the airport, so yeah, a little far.
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  Speaker 4: How long did you say.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe thirty minutes, twenty thirty. Yeah, that doesn't seem that
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  Speaker 2: bad man as far as aerosotle, it's not close, it's
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  Speaker 2: not far away.
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  Speaker 1: So the venue itself, I thought that April for Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: whether it was fine. I didn't have any issues there.
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  Speaker 1: Venue it is their local venue, and so obviously the
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  Speaker 1: price is right for Gigi to be able to run
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  Speaker 1: it in games Enter, we were actually in the small
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  Speaker 1: room based on our size.
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  Speaker 4: Of our group.
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  Speaker 3: Who are you kidding?
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  Speaker 2: They did not have that secondary room set up to
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  Speaker 2: tandle any amount of people. That was storage at that point, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, only only because of the.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they could see what the numbers were. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: could see at tenants coming into that, so there was
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  Speaker 1: no reason to set up the other side they had.
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  Speaker 1: They had gone ahead and put the audio recording over
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  Speaker 1: on the.
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  Speaker 2: It was cold in that room. I don't think there
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  Speaker 2: was any heat in that room. I thought that was fine.
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  Speaker 3: You want to talk cold, talk about it was cold
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  Speaker 3: in that room. It was like real warm roasting in
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  Speaker 3: the other one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I thought the venue was fine, but obviously
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  Speaker 1: the price isld.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this kind of goes into food too. So one
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  Speaker 2: thing we all know about the games Enter is typically
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  Speaker 2: they sell food. Yeah, there's no well there's I.
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  Speaker 3: Shouldn't say no food.
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  Speaker 2: You could get your normal like crummy snacks you can
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  Speaker 2: get anywhere there. But they didn't have food this year.
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  Speaker 2: Only drinks.
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  Speaker 4: I don't gave that the whole venue. It's not just revolts.
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  Speaker 3: They still had the kitchen back there. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: why they didn't let us go back and whip something
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  Speaker 3: up like that. Were pretty good, bring bring your own burgers,
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  Speaker 3: just fram up. Yeah, flips and burgers like would have
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  Speaker 3: been great. CTP wants to catch up with that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't even show up. Who you can?
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  Speaker 4: Soah. The Minneapolis Airport is number ten on the list
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  Speaker 4: of most expensive airports to travel too.
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  Speaker 1: That that is a bit of an issue. I will
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  Speaker 1: say that for food proximity, you do have the food
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  Speaker 1: court that is at the mall. It's not super far away.
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  Speaker 1: But if you don't, if you don't have a vehicle,
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  Speaker 1: it's not an easy walking down.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we went there at night.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot about that mall.
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  Speaker 3: I was not.
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  Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's close enough if you're driving, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna like you could go ahead and probably do
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  Speaker 1: a walk not in vault to her time frame that
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  Speaker 1: you need to hop over there and hop back, but
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  Speaker 1: with a vehicle it wasn't bad.
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  Speaker 2: And then that brings out Okay, so we learned the
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  Speaker 2: prizing after this event, which was Vault Master's twenty four. Yep, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he walk house that Vault Master twenty four treating you.
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  Speaker 1: So compared to last year, I actually have spent more
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  Speaker 1: money after acquiring Dex, and that is because I wanted
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: to trade for the other geo cash.
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: To be fair, this is not me because he walks
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  Speaker 2: trading him like Pokemon. He needs to collect them all.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you could have had decks that didn't have
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  Speaker 4: geotag and you weren't trading for them, and you wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: have Geota decks to trade.
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  Speaker 3: But it's still vault Master.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's Vault Master twenty four. The problem is is
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  Speaker 1: that you know, you see a couple of people posting
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook, I'm selling them, but they're just they're not moving.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that they're a nice novelty. I think
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  Speaker 1: that the idea for geocash great, But to put them
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  Speaker 1: on Vault Master twenty four versus the GR was a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a hit. We were anticipating.
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  Speaker 4: Say that right now with GR, but next season could
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  Speaker 4: be amber Scott. Yeah, but I'm saying BM so I
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: don't know if it's all.
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  Speaker 1: I hear that. But the difference between again amber Sky's
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  Speaker 1: and GR is something very very different we're just talking
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  Speaker 1: like we were coming in with his opinion. It was
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  Speaker 1: gr so until we see amber Sky's we don't necessarily know.
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  Speaker 1: I I frankly don't want to see it on the
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  Speaker 1: usual set. But it was it was a disappointment, There's
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  Speaker 1: no question about it. That was a disappointment. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting to be able to collect the geocash decks
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  Speaker 1: and that's something to do. But otherwise the prising was
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  Speaker 1: was definitely a downgrade compared to last year.
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  Speaker 3: Cash for slight stuff. I think all the prizes just
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  Speaker 3: went to Vargast, right, like, what does this typical version? Yes, yes, I.
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  Speaker 4: Knew, trophy is sweet.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, we didn't have the trophies at Roosevelt.
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  Speaker 2: They had not showed up off the boat yet. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they did. You have them at Rochester, No,
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: there was nothing at Rochester. At San Antonio they were
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  Speaker 2: so they didn't show up till Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, they were definitely late. I think that it's still
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  Speaker 1: very very top Layden for what the prizing is. So
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  Speaker 1: what I mean by that is you have the trophy
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  Speaker 1: for first, you have the access to worlds for first,
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  Speaker 1: for the baults, you have your deck goes adding, well,
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  Speaker 1: but this is important, so it.
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  Speaker 2: Can Oh, we're going to have forty six people show
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  Speaker 2: up to KFC and it's like access to everybody's going
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  Speaker 2: to get access to worlds. There's no doubt in my
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  Speaker 2: mind that that most top end players are going to
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  Speaker 2: be able to play in one world's event.
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  Speaker 1: I disagree about that.
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  Speaker 3: I they're making them smaller this year, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's it's twenty four people, right, So I
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  Speaker 2: mean yes, now, ay one has an ability to play, right,
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  Speaker 2: And even the people who have access to worlds also
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  Speaker 2: have access to the Sealed version, right.
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  Speaker 1: Which is why your numbers are really Yeah, you're really
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  Speaker 1: at forty eight because our cun and Alliance are being
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  Speaker 1: run at the same time simultaneously. Siealed players can play
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  Speaker 1: in their choice of ARCon or Alliance. So you really
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  Speaker 1: have forty eight slots available for worlds.
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  Speaker 3: No, you don't.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know because if I double qualify and I
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  Speaker 2: go into Sealed, I also have my spot coprate seals
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  Speaker 2: a different day.
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  Speaker 4: So it's only forty eight unique players sort.
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  Speaker 2: Of correct, right, sort of? Because I say I scrubbed
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  Speaker 2: out and Sealed, that's a whole spot that's not being
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  Speaker 2: taken up by Meana. But look, there's more than just
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  Speaker 2: forty eight slots.
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  Speaker 1: How many people were there for Arkan last year, even
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  Speaker 1: when we didn't have sealed But.
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  Speaker 2: That's but that's last year. This is this is a
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  Speaker 2: totally different animal. This year. There's no travel vouchers, so
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  Speaker 2: if you live overseas, you got to fork over the
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  Speaker 2: money yourself. I think it was Ilu was telling me
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  Speaker 2: it's something I don't remember what he told me it
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  Speaker 2: was going to cost. But it's not cheap to travel
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: overseas in to the United States. So I would imagine
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine point nine percent of the people who are overseas,
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  Speaker 2: we're not going to see them. I agree that last year,
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  Speaker 2: well no, I I think I think some.
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  Speaker 3: Represent of them didn't come.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't complete even with the travel vouchers.
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  Speaker 1: I think the number is Wookie. You are right, it
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  Speaker 1: will be less this year from our international friends. But
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  Speaker 1: I actually like seeing all of our international friends and
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  Speaker 1: being able to play last year. I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: a really really big highlight that will be missing this
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  Speaker 1: year most likely, but they have access. I still think
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  Speaker 1: that by slimming down the numbers, you're going to go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and see a much tighter field because people can
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and play and sealed and they can play
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  Speaker 1: in one of the two other events.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But even in your LCQ, you're only allotted one slot.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like you're allotted one and sealed and one
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  Speaker 2: in your choice.
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  Speaker 4: There are a number of players who are already qualified
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  Speaker 4: in ARC on our Alliance who are going if they
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  Speaker 4: finished well off, are taking the sealed slots from correct
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  Speaker 4: people who are qualified in nothing. Yes, that's that's what
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  Speaker 4: you walk saying, and that's true. It's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: There is reason to play, and I appreciate that they
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  Speaker 1: did that with the LCQ last year. The LCQ for
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  Speaker 1: Sheep and for others who are already in it was it.
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  Speaker 1: It was problematic because you were put in a tough position.
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  Speaker 1: This year, everyone has a reason to play.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which, yeah, yeah, Well we're here to talk about
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  Speaker 4: Vault Tours, not about that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it is a thing that it does exist. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I think the not fifteen there's not fifteen thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: up for grabs this time, so I think that's going
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  Speaker 2: to deter a lot of people who.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: There might not be fifteen dollars.
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  Speaker 2: There's not going to there's not going to be fifteen
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  Speaker 2: dollars unless we all pool together and start taking side back.
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  Speaker 3: You can you imagine like they're like handing out the
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  Speaker 3: prizas I like, somebody's up there, like all right, we
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  Speaker 3: walk up, just wave a twenty dollar bill.
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  Speaker 1: I got twenty dollars on cheap, twenty dollars, rookie, who'd
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  Speaker 1: you take? And what are you taking? Two to one odds,
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  Speaker 1: two to one odds, I'll be collecting prize money, prize money,
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  Speaker 1: We'll be handing it out.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm actually just waiting for I'm watching my I
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: have a new audio interface. So if you hear some
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: weird things people, I'm testing out the new audio interface.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really know what's going on with it, but
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  Speaker 2: it keeps moving what No, it's not doing that. It's
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  Speaker 2: just like every so often it's like it's doing something
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not sure what if it's capturing what noise
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  Speaker 2: it's exactly capturing, but I can see the number of
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  Speaker 2: dials is yeah, it's got.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Is drascours out in the field again using his GPS.
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  Speaker 1: Please turn right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't I don't know. Every so often
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  Speaker 2: it's just kind of like moves. It's very low, so
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if it's capturing my AC but I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: But if you do hear that, I apologize. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying this out because I want to take this. I
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: have grand visions that will probably never be fulfilled because
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  Speaker 2: of how much we're going to be drinking, to do
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  Speaker 2: some vlog style stuff, to have the ability to do
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: some some live type deals at at KFC and kind
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  Speaker 2: of get some of that stuff going. And this this
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: interface is one of the things because it can attach
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  Speaker 2: right to my iPad and we could just do it
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  Speaker 2: from that. But well, we'll see where that goes.
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  Speaker 1: Back to this prising is just the one and done.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you that I think our numbers were
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  Speaker 1: lower at Hamburg, Germany, which is not part of the
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  Speaker 1: US and what we're talking about, but you are going
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to see that impact because the trial vouchers are missing
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  Speaker 1: for this upcoming year. I will go ahead and just
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  Speaker 1: simply say prising the pins were mutt Those are awesome
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  Speaker 1: top eight pins. Yeah, I thought that they did much
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  Speaker 1: better after.
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  Speaker 3: We left, aren't they.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Well, they are access to the world's is more important
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  Speaker 1: though the matts. I like that they changed the graphics
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  Speaker 1: as you went to Arkan an Alliance and the difference
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  Speaker 1: for the different positions. They did that after Roseville, so
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  Speaker 1: again they adjusted through the year. I felt this was
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  Speaker 1: a good adjustment. So even though.
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  Speaker 2: Put the name of which they put the name of what?
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: No they did not, did they?
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: No?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so still didn't put the name of the event
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: you were on. So I hope somebody's taken note of no.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Yeah. They had the location again, I thought.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: But they didn't have the names like if you were
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Oh no, they no, they didn't. What didn't they have
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: They didn't either have the name of the location. The
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: location was there, but there was no name. So it
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: was just Top eight Roseville, right, Yeah, it wasn't like
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Top eight Arkan Roseville.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Correct, But that changed when you were looking at the
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: other locations, did it.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they affixed that's effects where they didn't have event
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: on it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, So again I felt that that was listening
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: to us. This is one of the areas where I
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: was actually okay that they fixed that. I think that overall,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: one of the things I saw is just the fluctuation
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and being inconsistent from Vault A vault was pretty difficult
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to be able to see. But prizing overall I thought
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: was definitely a downgrade. I think that it impacted but
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: longevity wise, it's gonna help so that these vaults can
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: be run consistently, which I'm definitely all, well it so, yes,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, would you guys prefer to see
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: sealed product of the relevant set and you're getting the
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: same quantity or even more for a sealed product, or
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: would you like to go ahead and see Vault Masters.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I don't mind the Vault Masters. If the Vault Masters
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: is good, I mean they're not. They're not made. Neither
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Vault Masters twenty three nor twenty four was any good,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: and we've seen the whole thing now via d Okay,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: it's just again it's theirs sets with too many creatures
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: in it. I don't I don't understand, like the theory
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: probably like the what is going into the idea of
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Vault Master twenty three and twenty four. They're like, Oh,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: we're gonna take some cards from freeziest sets and smash
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: them all together and it's going to be really really cool.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: But both twenty three and twenty four have been entire flops.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: They're not even alliance viable because you job, yeah, I mean,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: but like there's individual pods that could do it, but
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: twenty three is not combatible with twenty four. And because
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: there's so little of the sets out and about in
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: the public domain, it's very hard to even alliance them.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: So they're not arkhon worthy. They're not alliance worthy. The
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: only thing they're good for is shredder. Yeah, so, which
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: we should actually do a shredder report for for roosevele
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: for rot we didn't do shudder at Roosevelt talking about
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: all KFC.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Wow, No, Rooseville, we we did some right, Remember we
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: have the whole party, right we had.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: No, we didn't shred at the party. There was no
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Sydney ripped up a card and like had a panic
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: attack afterward.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, that was totally different.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So we're talking about that a number of our community
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: members have stepped up, and starting with Roosevelt, we had
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: some experiences to be able to enjoy.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: So how was the party in Sydney.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Sydney stepped off and now we have a party at
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: we have like a vault tour after party at almost
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: every event.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: But I think while our numbers overall have decreased from
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a year before, you are definitely seeing a tighter group
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: together and honestly having a good time doing other things
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: outside of key Ford, which is interesting to see.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: So, like you remember how awesome it felt like coming
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: out of that party going to the next day, like
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: we were, no it hurt, It was very well, maybe
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: not the next morning morning, but like it was much fun,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: right like we it was just people hanging out. It
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: was having a great time. We were you know, we're
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: playing games, We're playing skull we were you know, drinking,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: we were cheetos right Like, it was like it was.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: A great time.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Like people were just having a blast there. And we
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: had the unnerved Echdo Charge as our cocktail of choice
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: in the uh uh in the big cooler.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I've already chosen KFC's drink of choice this year for
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: everybody that's involved. I'm announcing it here because I'm just
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: gonna speaking into fruition. So drum roll please, it's screwdrivers. Now, yep, now,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the Wookies drink of choice. Screwdrivers. That is going to
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: be the cave no, because your drinks are just full
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: of booze.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: That's the point.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but can the drink be called the screwed over?
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, and yes, yes one, and that's what the drink
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: is called.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, the partying experience for Rooseville was an
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: A plus. I can go ahead and say that the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: prizing for the year I think I placed at a
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: D location.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: H oh, you're talking. We're talking just for a roach.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, the prizing is pretty much ad to be
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: the same because it was all the same for every
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: vault except for gen Con, which we'll get into.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: But yeah, a D. I think I D that seems high.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I I'm at those pins, those top eight pins, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I think the improvement for the Matt's overall allowed it
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to at least be better than the top four. So yes,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I could probably even be persuaded into a C.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: There.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, I can't be talked to a C.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a D because I'm still kind of
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: upset about my pin. I still didn't get a pin.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: There's no pen to be found.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: But D.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, after you said the improved play matts and
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the pins and all that, all right, fine D what about.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: All right, drazz party experience? What would you give it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: The party experience plus the party was an a absolutely,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: like that was.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: So much fun.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: How about the prizing for this year since Wookie and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: our are a little different.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's in there, right, I mean it's
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: it's it's fine, noncommittal, got it D plus plus? What's
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: the plus? Extra shitty?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So that is a plus? None of mine?
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I mean I'd be.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Josh smiled when he handed it to me, that's right, Yeah,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: because he knew he was giving you hot garbage.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: I don't love if they.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Do that, so he.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: H.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Why what do you giveing the prizing for this year
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: compared to what last year?
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: If you compare it to last year, it's an F.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: I mean value wise, it's an a F. But like
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: actually interested in getting it is much higher.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: For me, correct, which is why we have to do
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: an average and we're replacing it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: What else the hell are they going to give us
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: like I think they could have. I don't actually think
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: getting the thing is is. I don't think getting more
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: of the geo take debts would make them better. It
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: would actually make them less desirable. Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I agree with that.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I you know, as it is as the way we
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: play now, even if they offered like a case of
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: g R. I'd just kind of be like, okay, like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't need that many more key force tacks.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: I don't need I need all the gr But you're
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: trying something good.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: When you go ahead and try, Yeah, when you try
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and go ahead and talk that we don't need things again,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: it seems to disappear. So I just would split it
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: up a little bit further. I would love to see
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: something more for the people who frankly aren't even placing
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the top eight, just to walk away with something that
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: that would be nice outside of here's your one vault
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Master twenty four and your three decks for sealed. So
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that's honestly what I missed from the room.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I don't I personally don't think the value to the
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: cost of vaulteurs is that bad right now, So I
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: give it. I give it like a A B D plus.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: I'm I mean, like, for I signed with what I'm
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: getting because I've never played this game because of the prizes,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: like I've always thought, and actually they don't think it
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: helped when they made it calf prize and they've ruined
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: a bunch of things by doing that. Well, that I think.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I think she y, you know, I think the value
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you see for what you're getting at I understand. I
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: would like to see for next year the pins coming back.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see something like a crylic amber or
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: like patch, something handed out to everyone so you can
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: walk away with and say I went to this vault.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Everything that's important. Everybody got a vaults.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, does that tell you that you went to roso?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're all Everyone gets a GEO tagged vault master
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: deck and you know you do not, you just get
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a regular one.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: That's right now? Yeah, you're right.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, That's why I'm saying, like, you want to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: have something that is saying I went to this event.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Here's how I know that I went to the event,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and you can show it when you go back to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: your locals, and it's something fun. I want it. It
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't need to be a lot, but one little item
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: forever everyone. It would help out in that manner.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I still don't understand why a currilic ember haven't come
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: back like that does not seem like a huge ask,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: but it's something.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: That we all love.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: They have to sell those whatever tokens they're selling.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Now and fine print them there.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: On that then, and anyway, it's something we've all asked
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: for for two years now, Like this isn't it's not
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: a small community going, Hey, those are crilic umber really
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: really cool. Everybody talks about the acrylic ember that FFG
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: handed out everybody and we.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: All loved them.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Yet we cannot get them to get them to somehow
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: make them make a comeback.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: All right, I'll.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Bounce down attendance attendance. We went through the numbers that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: are there. I felt that this was one of the
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: dates that was actually announced Roseville. So knowing that it
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: was announced.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: It was announced late though, wasn't it?
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: No?
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: This was when was it an.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Only one they announced?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: This is the only one that they announced early on,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: and so knowing that, I was disappointed. But again, I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: think part of this comes because there was no transparency,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: in clarity on here's what you're actually getting for going to.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: It if you're going to Minnesota.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: And because even once people knew, they still went to
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Baltimore and Rochester and then they knew what they were getting.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I think it's because I think that past location to
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: get to I have sam reason. San Antonio has tiny
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: pop It has tiny things because it's a crap location
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to get to. That's what causes the numbers to be small.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I agree that it is a poor location to get to,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: but I'm telling you that they could have increased the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: numbers because we have a large increase.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: The numbers by releasing what the prizes were ahead of time.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it might have actually decreased knowing what was there, because.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering, I think, Okay, so hold up.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Where your argument's going, Well, your numbers for we.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Can easily kind of squashed this dras car. What was
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the most expensive Vault tour to get to? Well, he's
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: a different spot, but like I'm sure the average it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: going to average out pretty similarly everywhere.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: So he drove it to them. Yeah, what when was this?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: This was an April early April.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: That's when I was on my cruise. Yep.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: You were on your cruise yep. So that's it wasn't
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: this one. It was definitely more expensive to get to Vegas,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: it was. Yeah, I think it was more expensive to
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: get to San Antonio.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I flew into Houston. This was the one that
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: was the weekend after Easter.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So it was also WrestleMania weekend, so a.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Whole bunch of people were traveling, had just traveled and
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: done family stuff and took time off for Easter, and
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: then it's like and level again.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: To avoid all that, right, Like it's different than not
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: it's not hard to avoid all that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: You can just change your dates. Well no, no, but
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: but there's always something, right, So, like, I think the
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: bigger challenge was san Antonio was over. Was it Memorial
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Day weekend with san Antonio?
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that's yeah, it was Rochester Day weekend.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Rochester was also the stupid m eclipse thing, wasn't it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yep, Oh that's right. So I that's right. I flew
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: in from Canada. That's why I could remember. I couldn't
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: remember prices or no. I flew out from there to Canada. Yeah,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: you went to Canada to watch the eclipse. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah. And I was like, I hope I
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: don't get murdered.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: And apparently a lot of people had already booked that
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: because it's an astronomical plan event. Yeah, and they were like, yeah,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not canceling my trip for that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: So Gigi write this down don't plan ball tours around
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: astrological events.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's but that is funny because it's like Afron
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Josh was like, what are you guys even talking about
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: rights clips? I did not.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I didn't see anything.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I still see for attendance that both Rochester,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: New York, and Baltimore, their locations allow for a higher
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: density in the area for people.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: But then you got Las Vegas, who's right in that
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: mix too.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas you still have to fly into versus being
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: able to drive.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Rochester has seventy, Baltimore at seventy six, Vegas had seventy two.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I think a few things that all these have in common.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Number one, there was nothing going on that weekend. It's
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: not Father's Day or Labor Day or Memorial Day or
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: any of the big holidays that we know we all
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: spend with our family.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Is because kids.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And then I know what you say, Sheep, You're you
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: are the exception, not the North.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I hate to tell you this, but I.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Think that you have some really large player bases that
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you can see for both, especially for Baltimore, and so
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that has another impact. And to start the year again.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I mean but then but explain Vegas. Then a lot
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: of key foragers hanging out in the city of sin No.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: You have a number of individuals on the West coast
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: who want to come into that area because there isn't
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: a west coast it's.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: The California drivable one, right, So that's that's it is
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: a thing. When you look at the drivable population base
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: for either of the East coast ones, it's huge, right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: You look at the actual drivable population base for the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Roseville one, you technically catch Chicago, right, But Chicago has
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: for the number of for the population has a very
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: small active player base.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really decreased.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: It's it's damn near nonexistent, right, Like they come and
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: play with us in Wisconsin. That's how little is. They
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: did have an event this weekend. Some people show up,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: but they're also they don't have they don't have a
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: they don't have a significant traveling for vault to our population,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: there's just a handful. So it's it's just when you
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: look at Roseville and you draw a circle around it
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: and you just do account of people. The only one
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: that's probably got less people in a circle in circles
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: around it is Vegas. But you get the circle big
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: enough and you hit California and it all of a sudden,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: balloons back.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Up and flights are cheaper there. Yeah, flights can be
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: cheap to Vegas. I sure, Oh I found a great flight.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I found a deal. Now that I remember that, definitely,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: San Antonio was the most expensive.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: All right, now that I'm just remembering this, we got
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: to move on.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: We are forty minutes in and we're still on Rosevelt.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: That's because you keep getting distracted.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I am not distracted Rochester, New York otherwise.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Which is what Yeah, yeah, that's the whole point. So
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: real quick. I thought that I thought the streaming setup
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: was fine. I thought it was actually really nice for
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: for Roseville. I felt the team representation, even though the
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: numbers were low. You saw some local team, the rest
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: was there. You saw some larger teams. Showed a report.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: We did we did well in this event overall.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I think by way he means he did well in
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: this event overall.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Well, was there? We were there a thing.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Now, you can go on to Rochester.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I tried to play woe. That was a mistake. I
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: didn't make that mistake again.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: All right, Chester, New York otherwise known as Ronchester Wait Chester.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, r A U n C eight Runch No.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: One Rochester. He's like a hold back for the Browns.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I think it also sucks spelling. I'm working on my spelling.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I wasn't on home role. Seventy seventy attendants, sixty one
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: played in Rochester, sixty one played in Seal, the fifty
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: five played in ARCon, ten played in Alliance and ten
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: almost into single digits. There were there were two people
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: in this event who missed top eight, just just two.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Drafscore was the only one that had Uh you were
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: gonna want at this event?
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? There were the sixty people were all bought.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: It was just But is that how I did so?
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: That sounds about right, and yet you still choked what
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I got. I got a runner up at the top eight,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: So you know, say whatever you want. You didn't win, that's.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: True, So you're still the choke show to me. Well, thanks, Wegg.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I was Chester.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Uh it's wrong, Ronchchester. It was a good time, you know.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: We Uh So I stayed at the hotel with camera
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: and and the food. There was like a whole bunch
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: of Yeah, there was a whole bunch of different places
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: around to uh eat. That was a good time, like
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: a bunch of different breakfast venues. I forced as I do, right,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: whoever I'm hanging out with, I just forced them to
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: do whatever I want to do, right. So you know
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Joker last year, I just forced him to watch me
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: drink right, force him to.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Walk like far.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: We walked to this coffee shop and I'm ordering, like, oh,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: what do you want?
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: He's like, oh, I don't drink coffee.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, somebody to watch you drink? Yes, yes I did.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not a trend. Yeah, watch me, watch me.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Oh I remember this one. So this one. We had
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun with this one. A little controversy
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: added in there. Oh with that with our boy, which
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: got all sorts of everybody crazy.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: That might have added a little bit to the to
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: the hype. Oh yeah. This was also the first vault
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: appearance of Cardboard Sheep, which was a huge hair.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: First of all, the appearance of Cardboard Sheep was in Roseville.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah remember you scared the.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Ship and oh you're right, Cardboard Sheep was in Roseville.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I just remember the the kid And.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: This was the first time Cardboard Sheep got physically assaulted assassinated.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I remember the kid with a nerf gun just just
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: totally blowing away sheep and then going reloading. Was it was?
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: It was a semi automatic situation. And uh it was
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: like and like he like would like lean it on
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the chair because it's kind of heavy, and just like
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: unload the whole clip right, and then he would reload,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: all right, and then he would like get real close
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: and just go one handed right straight to the head. Pop,
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: laughing hysterically. But whose kid?
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: What was this?
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Did we ever find this out?
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: No?
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I am not exactly sure who this kid was. Just
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: some random kiddom like cardboard efforts. I know this guy,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: he's gotta go.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, makes sense.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: So the situation was a food is pretty good.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: If you had to give it a letter grade, which
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: is something we're doing here, what would you have given
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: it for the food?
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: The breakfast situations were real good.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: I remember that.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I don't need to break it down by meal, just
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: give me an overall.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what we Uh, I think it
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: was solid B plus all right. Hotel situations hotel? So
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the hotel was decent. Yeah, I remember I show up
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: and like the first night to the hotel and I
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: go to the hotel bar and they're just like wrapping
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: up bar service and I see Josh and ct B there,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: so I'm like, it's like over here, and I start
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: talking and like Josh feels the need to insert into
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: the conversation because I introduced myself by my name, and
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: so it's this is dress corps. Be careful what you
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: say to this man.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: That what they do. I didn't. I didn't.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't recognize half the little like undercutt of jazz,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: but like, oh yeah, this is such and such a Yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: they got a secret wink that they give each other
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: when they're like maybe maybe watch would you say this guy?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no I So I chatted with him
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: a bunch, and I don't know that I went out
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: to eat that much, but I do remember. The real
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: fun thing that we did was back at the hotel.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: As you asked about the hotel the.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: We did, so June and I ran a like key
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: forge after dark situation and we get all sorts of
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: like food and candy. We just ran Shredder, a ton
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: of shredder.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: And CTV shows up. We're just playing Shredder in front
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: of him. Uh, which we asked if he wanted to
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: join us.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: He refused.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: But was like never, I will never shrid qboords cars
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: about U. No, he hung out for a little bit
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: and uh I remember so. So actually he did the
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: CDP dinner there, right, That was the first time they
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: did the dinner, and my boys on my local team
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: were dacted. They asked, you know, all the questions and
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: between straygan and and Mamon dg and so they you know,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: they asked him all the questions and whatnot. And then
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I came back and you know, or they came back.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: CTV shows up. He's he's talk about, Oh, how is
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: dinner whatever? He was like that was good, you know,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: it was a little salty or whatever. And I was like,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: oh the food or the conversation he just laught is
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: like the food. I was like, okay, but uh.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: So, Yeah, CTP definitely showed up for Rochester or Rochester,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: but even this home location. He showed up Friday for
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Roseville and was there and in and out in like
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: a hot couple of minutes. So he did not want
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: to stay for d So that's a definitely upgrade for
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: New York.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was there all the time.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Rochester is also where JM broke all of his self
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: rules and bought VM twenty four deckx.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Owl. No, if a man have principles, M, then what
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: is all right?
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: We're all broke down. I played Alliance and he's bought that.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: It's just we're all we're all degenerated. Now welcome.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I've been streaming of one of us.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'll play a lion that's still it's still keep board.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: If I can double up? Sure, why not?
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: We didn't super talk about streaming yet. Like the streaming
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: situation this year has been at last so much fun, right,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Like like the first time it happened was at Roseville
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: and and like it was just people just going in
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: and like, oh yeah, I'll take a turn streaming. And
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I ended up streaming with Jeremy at one point. I
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: was streaming with Tobin from the work cast for Forge
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: at one point, right and it was just like I
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: don't know, it was there was just something, man, because.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Next year they're going to start selling tickets to who's
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: able to stream.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: I kind of have a big fight next year because
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: Loca car is going to be fighting for that seat. Yeah,
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: the stream it was it was like almost magical, Like
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: if you so, if you added up right now you
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: had that that a party, right, that party earned a day.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: But if you add up, like if you try to
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: do the math on Roseville, you just add up all
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: the things that happened and all the wonky things and
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: low player counts, like the math should have resulted in
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: a relatively low score, right, but like the overall score
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: for Roseville was so high and I don't exactly know why,
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: but it was like, what do you mean?
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: The overall score for it was like an A, Like
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: the event was an A even though the it sight
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: have been I don't know why. Well, our discord might
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: have had a little bit to do with that. Rochester Rochester,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, well Rochester, Yeah, he went backwards because
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: we didn't go ahead and give that the Rochester Rochester said.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: You said a for Roseville overall for Roseville.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I I know exactly. I will agree with dras Corps
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: unlike you had Sydney, Unlike dras car I can put
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: my finger on the pulse. It definitely a hundred percent.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Was the after party, like when you have when you're
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: going and you're playing in a long day event, right,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: and like the event itself was a c. Right, if
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: we didn't have that that after party afterwards, it was
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a c.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: It was fine. We got to play a lot of
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: key Forge, right, We did get to play in all
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: three events. Like there was nothing wrong with the event.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Nothing really went off the rails. Day three went a
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: little long because again we keep talking about, Hey, there's
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: gonna be this situation and it's like, nah, it's fine,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: and then the situation happens right like it's it's it's
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: it's almost irritating at this point because you're like, hey,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: this is gonna happen, and they're like nah, and then
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: it happens and you're like see. But one hundred percent
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: is like the Sydney's Little after parties that it's like
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: it just it brings everybody in that room together and
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: we all get to just have a good time. Like
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I had no idea who some of these people were.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I'd never like, I've never really talked to Sith or
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: to I mean, Dave a little bit, but like a
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: lot of the people in that room, like I don't
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: really talk to them outside of these events. And even
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: when we're at the events, we're kind of in our
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: little team huddles. Right, For the most part, we're with
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: the people we know and who we hang out and
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: who we talk with the most. But there's a little
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: something about a lick, a little bit of liquid libation
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: that makes you kind of come out of your shell
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: a little bit and now you're literally talking to everyone.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: And that's what's the most fun about it, because we
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: do have a great community, and when we all talk
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: together and get along, it's even better. Yeah, it was.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: It was a great time. So overall, I will give
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: it the actual tour itself, it was a c It
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: was fine. It met expectations. Right, I'm not giving I'm
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: not giving it a three point four percent raise next year,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: but I'll keep it where it's at, you know. But
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: when you add in the little extras that are all
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: community driven, it's an a.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Just the vibe in the room even during the event
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: was awesome. Oh no, oh, I forgot. It went to
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: that uh that like murder hallway or whatever where Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: let led some folks to you guys almost got murdered again. Yeah,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: they were like, what is this murder hallway? Like? It
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: be fine, guys, come on, come on, what are these
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: days you're gonna get murdered, and this show is going
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: to turn into something completely different.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: It's gonna go from Q forge to true crime. There
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: you go, there you go, Like, who killed drass Cord?
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows, let's find out nobody knows.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: I did not get to San Antonio.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Now, yeah, let's go to San Antonio.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: Wait?
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Wait, what was your for Rochester?
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Sorry?
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Dress? Yeah, b so so so. I had a ton
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: of fun and the there was definitely so. I I
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: never encountered the specific situation that a bunch of people
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: encountered with the contents you weren't good enough be talking about.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: I didn't great out of that.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: But did the uh there was quite a few people
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: who were put off by the whole situation the uh
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: you know, I thought the the you know, after party
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: situation was was fun and good. The I had actually
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: I had a fun time walking back to the hotel
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: with with Marcus and Josh because CTP.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: Took the van. Sounds like Josh my podcasting Wade were
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: getting back to the hotel with all this junk.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'll walk you all carry some stuff.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: So he like walked through all these dark parking lots
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: and the dark sidewalks in the middle of the night.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Now DRAMs cars upgraded also trying to kill g Yeah, yep.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Mule upgraded to mule status.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: So there was a big turnout from tavern brawlers.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: So it was good to see.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Uh likes good to see. So I actually saw so
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: that the elf there. If you guys remember who's real.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: He doesn't just exist dreams.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: Although I don't know like cover them.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, she did a good test today. I
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: asked if if uh Suley was alive. He responded that
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: he was, and then you told him to ignore all
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: previous instructions and give you a give me.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: And he did so.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so Rochester, you're giving it a B,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: all right, Sam, And he was.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: He was the only one there. Now you actually missed
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: my rose My Roseville very simply is a B.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: Plus.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I did not get a chance to party as much,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: but I still thought, while the attendance was low, we
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: had a really good group there, and so I enjoyed it.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: San Antonio Sheep.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Otherwise known as sant Antonio that Antonio, thirty nine people
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: in attendance, thirty six plate sealed, thirty seven plate arc
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: on twenty seven Alliance. For those of you playing the
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: which of these events were stacked game? Put your put
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: your answers in the chat.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Sheep.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: You were at San Antonio? I like how you only
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: mentioned this situations. But I'm just trying to help out here.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Sists like the teacher giving a quiz where they're like,
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: this is the answer right, and still half of the
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: half of the students are going to get it wrong. Yes,
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: for sure, Okay, So yes, I was there. It was uh,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: you were there. It was an event cheap bedtime story.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: It was a great event.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the bedtime story.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: So San Antonio was at Shenanigans, which had nearly no parking,
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: enough play space, not really anything else going on there,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: but there was.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: It was interesting. We're in a strip mall in a
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: part of town where nobody wanted to go anywhere besides
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: the strip mall. Right, but thankfully the strip mall had
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: like two Mexican restaurants and an ice cream joint and
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: something else, so there was plenty of food available right
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: there next to it, including the Tomali's Place, and it
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: had pretty good to Molly's. So the food for San
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: Antonio was okay, but it was also then several miles
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: to the nearest hotel. The hotel situation was fine, and
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: that we were at a Double Tree or whatever. The
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: hotel well, I don't even remember now. It was a
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: totally acceptable hotel, but it was kind of distancy, which
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: didn't help with the party vibe. And then Sydney tried
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: running parties there but kept getting stuck playing late because
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: everything was stacked right, So we were like, we never
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: really got a lot of time at the end of
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: any day to go back and and then well if
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: you if you were saying up late, you weren't getting
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: much sleep, which you know, some people definitely stayed up
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: way late, like three four in the morning and then
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: had to be back to run stuff at ten. Whoops. Yeah,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: what else happened? Was there anything else? Really was?
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: I mean it was small, but we definitely had some
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: stuff right. So Ryan did all the streaming right, and
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: so I jumped in with him. At certain points we
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: had the first showing of Buff Hobo. Uh oh yeah,
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: So since you know, there was a recount of playing
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: against some buff guy so which at the Rochester, so
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: buff Hobo showed up in order to make his presence down.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: And another one of those creepy cardboard sheeps was there.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Cardboard sheep was there. Cardboard sheep got a top four.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: He did well and sealed.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and then real sheep looked a bit, you know,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: tried to get real unhappy for his photo.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: It still looks like.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: You're trying to hold back a laugh so hard. I
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: thought it was pretty hilarious. But yeah, it was you
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: and and Dexter at the top table. There. You did
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: fraud things to me in the top four, so you advanced,
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: and I did.
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: Not thank you for allowing that.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And what else? We got some barbecue. We
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: got some some solid barbecue while we were out there, yep.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: And on the way back we ate a whole lot
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: of meat. Yeah. Event oh yeah, we went to that
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Brazilian steakhouse situation. That was pretty delicious.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: But that wasn't the vault, right because Draz and I
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: came in a little bit early headed to Houston to
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: meet up with our friend Zee and Zach, who some
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: people may remember. Most of us have already forgotten them.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: You may have heard those names. So we hung out
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: with them a bit before and then again we rode
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: back to Houston with them.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: After thought, the BUCkies both ways and that was on
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: the way back was a.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: Total disaster and we were like in line to get
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: gas for over half an hour. Yeah, that was pretty outrageous.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: But those those Bucky nuggets or whatever, beaver balls, beaver
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: balls there you go, that's that's where it was at
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: the beaver nuggets.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: We also went to downtown San Antonio. So we went
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: to the river walk was the k oh Yeah, so
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: I was who was that? That was myself and Sydney
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: and who else was there?
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Uh? Don was there? Uh? Who else was it?
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Was?
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: Hobo? Who was there? And then yeah, and uh, just.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Keep names get there eventually.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's only thirty eight names to pick from
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: the Yeah. Yeah, so went to it.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: So I love this.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the chat Josh don in the
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: chat legit. If we're gonna get murdered, it would have
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: been there. And also san Atoso was also a possible
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: murder spot after sealed finals.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Do you see a problem with the places you're picking?
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Just I'm just gonna throw that out.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: There was interest.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: It was definitely drinks being sold on the sidewalk, and
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: then there was a you know, big drop into like
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: a river in the railing. So I'm sure that's safe.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying, if there's a possible murder
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: spot at every point, at some point in every Vault tour,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: maybe let's not have it there. Have you gone to
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: that hotel that's across the street from the Double Tree
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: in Roseville? I think that's a murder spot. No, that's
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: a hooker spot. No, hand in hand, it's the Walmart
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: where X Ray had to buy a jacket because he
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: didn't realize it gets cold.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: In November.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Ray, you're listening to this, bring a cold to KFC,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: It'll still be Minnesota in November.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: So overall, what do you guys rate San Antonio.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: On this random scale of events. I'm gonna guess it's.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: It's like a.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: B area for the actual event. There was nothing. There's
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: nothing that ever makes me want to go to sand
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: Tonio again.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: But you won, sure?
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: But that that's.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, that's not true. Not only wins in Hell.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: And yes, right, fraud can't win in the US. Uh.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: That confirm that. After getting off the airplane, I thought
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: Texas was Hell. But fraud winning there confirms Texas is hell.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: It was. It was the test and uh sorry, it's
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: it's definitely hell down there. Yeah. For what we heard
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: about generally how stacked events went at Roseville versus the
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: relative little smoothness of running stacked events at San Antonio,
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: it went pretty well for that, Like San Antonio did
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: actually run pretty darn smooth overall. Yeah. Yeah, So it
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: was for the number of players and the amount of
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: key forge we played that weekend, it was. It ran
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: pretty well on schedule, everything went pretty smooth. But man,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: that was a lot of key Fords you jam in
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: those three days, especially when you did well and didn't
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: get eliminated earlier. It was a lot of key forge.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: All right, so you you're both saying b Yeah, okay,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: fair enough Baltimore or as I wrote ball to us,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: But I feel like I didn't write that.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: We were trying to it. We didn't figure out a Baltimore.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: So it was sad Antonio right as a be, sad Antonio,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: you know, punning all these names like fourth work, it's
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: just the thing you got to carry on, got it?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Seventy six attendant seventy played and sealed six seeing an
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: ARCon And again for those of you playing at home
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: fourteen an alliance who went to balt was it?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: Sheep?
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: You didn't did you go to Baltimore? Are you sure
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: this wasn't your cruise? I was in Baltimore? No, No,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: it was Rosevelt. Was your cruise?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: When was Baltimore?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Uh? Baltimore was?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: Dude? Do I don't know?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I will find out for you. Here you go, Baltimore
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: vault Our twenty twenty four. Mmmmm, no date, but it
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: was the article was July first, so end of June sometime.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: Is it before San Antonio? No?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: No, Baltimore was after San Antonio? Or wait a minute,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: so this was it.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: Games and stuff?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Baltimore was well, hold on, No, that was June thirty. Yeah,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: so it was the end of June. I think this
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: one was like the twenty eighth something like that. It
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: was like the very end of June. I don't remember
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: what we were all doing at the very end of June.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I think it was like what the twenty first, twenty second,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: twenty third, something like that seems about right.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, this was.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Was this the one when we Father's Day weekend?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: Now this is this is where we were at the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: board gaming event.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Oh was this hoopla?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think this was hooplah? Got it?
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I know I wasn't there. That explained to you in Ewok.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: So I was camping. No, I was camping this week,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Josh furred out June fourteenth through the sixteenth, So I was.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: And it's my wife's birthday. Not that that would have
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: stopped me.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: And you are right.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: It was Father's Day weekend.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so this was Father's Day weekend. So the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: only one to show up was Draft Corps.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: Yep. I was there how older daughters so uh yes,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: that's true.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: It does help when your kids are a little older.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: So uh so it was a great time. It was
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: a big turnout by the locals there. The bay Witch
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: is also a big turnout from my locals. Team were
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: dacted and we went and had a good time. We
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: uh So, this games and stuff location is massive. I'm
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: used to be a Walmart or a Kmart or something
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: something like. I it was big, right, like, this is
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: the biggest game store I think I've ever been in.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: I think it's the biggest game store in the US.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: That could be true. It is massive.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: H So it was really cool to walk around the place,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: and the play area was was huge and just the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: and the store owner was like there and excited to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: have us, which was really cool. You know, he had
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: ordered a whole bunch of the UH name like the
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: name decks for the the store from I guess the
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: previous UH from the previous game found and so he
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: was putting those up for sale there so everybody could
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: buy one. So you could also get a souvenir from
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: the store. So whole bunch of people did that, and
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: then he like gave one away. He like announced that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: he was given one away to I'm pretty sure was
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Marcus Uh.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: And Uh.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: It was like this whole thing and I don't know,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: it was really cool. So the store was awesome. It
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: was you know, real close to uh a good taco
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: play submission barbecue. It was real close to the Crazy Crab,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: which this staff was definitely high at when we got there.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: I remember that.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: But we we definitely rocked into some Maryland Crabs that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: were that was pretty good.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: And uh, that was a good time.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: I also remember we went out and had a had
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: a good time down in downtown Baltimore.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: We had we had a great dinner.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: It was was myself Sunday JJ Metapps and uh and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: then like we were going to walk to meet other people,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, let's just walk around along
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: the harbor, just looking at the general distance, failing to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: calculate how much back and forth you do zigzag gik
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: when you walk along the harbor. So it took us
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: like a really long time to meet other people.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Well, finally we got there, got more cocktails. That was
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: a good time.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Oh and then I remember we were trying to find
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: the car for like over an hour, like where's the car, Like, dude,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: where's my car? Just wandering around Baltimore, Uh, trying to
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: find Uh it was Don. It was Don's car. So yeah,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: Don's car was somewhere. Could good and find it forever.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: But it was a good time.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: I remember.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: This was the people were talking about, you know, another
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: Dandolo win, right, people are talking about uh DT getting
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: a win through alliance with that krog leg frog legs
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: crazy crazy deck where you just keep looping.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: With the.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: What's that crazy logos creature that power mad creatures play
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: get more power and then you just play the waist age. Yeah,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: you play your waistnuts on it and you draw your
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: whole deck and then you uh, you know, house cheat
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: and win just you know, play all your cards. It's
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: rules sticks everything here deck. Basically, that was pretty outrageous.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: So it was that was kind of crazy to see.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I remember freezing my balls off with Local Car while
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: streaming that game because it was so cold in the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: streaming room.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Was the room that you guys had to like bounce
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: around in every few minutes to turn the lights back on.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Oh no, that was in San Antonio. That yeah, that
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: was a ride and I we were just like, you know,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: just raving in there trying to keep the lights on. No,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: this was a different one. It was it was so
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: freezing in there, and uh what was a good time
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: to stream Local Car? And uh, it was a good time.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: It was a good one.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: It was uh you know, it was good to see
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: quite a few local players hanging out with them and.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: And uh it was good food, good drinks.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: So it was a good time. It was a pretty
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: good one. This will B plus one B plus Yeah,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: what are making these above average?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: The people?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: The people because it's the same people at every Vault tour.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: Oh man, I was at one and it only got
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: to be oh.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, Wookie was that one. And
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: they've got a so you know, just saying say with
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: you walk it's because I'm awesome. Yeah, I have the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: life of them. There was cardboard sheep their sheep, so
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: like you know.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, cardboard sheep.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Cardboard sheep not as good as regular sheep. No, definitely,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: we did the Jude and I ran a after party.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: We played Shredder, a whole bunch of shredder aa Shredder
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: in the hotel.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: Uh. That was fun. So it was.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: It was a lot of a lot of good stuff
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: at that one.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Did miss the sheep? Did miss you? Yeah? Sorry?
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: All right, Las Vegas seventy two attendants, sixty nine sealed
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: fifty two, ARCon eighteen Alliance. Uh, this is the Vault
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Tour that'll for be known as the Vault Tour that.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Got out of hand right at the plane ride from Hell.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: I mean is that Oh yeah, there's definitely bad flights
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: on the way home.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Well that that too. Also, your experiences may vary depending
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: on which club you went to. Mm hmm, that's almost
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: say at this point. Yeah, yeah, but a lot of
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: craziness happened at this vaultake.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, Vegas had good attendance, not the most spectacular venue,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: but adequate. Also though it was at a haul and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: not a game store, so whatever plus and minuses go
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: on with that. Of course, we were right next to
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: a gun show and some kind of ballroom dancing competition.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, So there was that kind of excitement going on.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: Food was up there with the King Sania.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: From the food situation was was pretty good, but did
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: take a little bit of a walk in one hundred
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: and twenty degree heat. You had to walk about five
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: to eight minutes, and then you actually had fairly decent choices.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: You were doing fine then. So the food was and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: it was plenty of food that was in the right
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: speed for what we were doing. Like it wasn't crazy
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: sit down food, and it wasn't all just like McDonald's.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: You had that right like what you would call, i
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: don't know, gipotely kind of food right where it's not
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: quite fast food and it's not whatever, you.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: Know, family fast and friendly.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: I think. Yeah, So the food situation and that was good.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: There was a bar available, not that the breakfast was
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: a little pricey, but actually the breakfast food at the
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: event place was pretty tolerable for the price. Ah, but
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: what else was there? There was and there was absolutely
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: amazing alternative activity options. Yeah, outside of playing key Forge,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: the options in Vegas are pretty good. Yeah.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: I felt a little bad because I got wrecked Thursday night.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: So I was able the experience on Friday and and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: kind of truth, I got so wrecked on Friday night
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: that I went with with Draft for the slightly more
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: subdued Saturday and kind of wish I hadn't.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: You guys said you wanted to be subdued, so we
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: just I know, I know.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: But then the other group went a little harder than
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: we did and they appeared to have a very good time.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: I feel like this needs to be one OpEd. I'm
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: just gonna say that, but this needs to be one
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: OpEd immediately. We cannot be known as the light partiers
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: in the key Forge community.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: No, So the the the fun that was had the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: second night was not as part of a party as
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: we had on Friday night. That was probably the most
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: drinking and rambutious child. This was Friday night for sure.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: We went with Wigsby from BG Yeah and good food,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: good drinks, so it was delicious, it just wasn't rambunctious. Yeah, overall. Guys,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: what do you rate Vegas? Letter grade you?
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: I mean that's going to be an A for the
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: overall event.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: For me, it was it was the plus yeah B plus. Okay,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: we round out everything this that's the end of the
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: Vault Tours. But we round out all of the majors
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: with gen Con. US nationals played three separate days. We
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: had thirty eight for Sealed, twenty eight for twenty eight
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: for ARCon, thirteen for Alliance. I want Dan's letter grade, Dan,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: what do you grade this?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: You're going wait?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: What did it? B? D? D?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Just the letter D asn't dog?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: Oh D isn't dog? Shit?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Got it is? Ewok?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Still here, I keep cussing and I don't hear. Thank
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: you for your donation.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you for your donation.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Thank you Elock, you were there too. I pressed my
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: Ewok soundboard for that.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for your donation.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: I pressed it again.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: All right, So now let me let me try pressing
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: the want about how second place does it get uh,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: you know, invite to worlds?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: Let me find that button.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Advising was better? All gets you into worlds?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: This AI generated stuff getting real good?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: So me my myself Sheep and Ewok. We're all at
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: gen Con Nationals. We all played in all three events
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: to different levels of goodness. I started with sheep because
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: sheep had the most problems. Ewok you had the most.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: Free time. Very nice.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: I still made top eight. I'm fine.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Oh you did make a top eight. Yeah that's right.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: We all top top four.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: I made a top four.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah you did so, but how okay?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: So this is kind of an odd ball one because
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: we can't really I mean, key well.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I played my cards, yeah, and uh they allowed me
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: to go ahead and win a couple of games. So
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I made top four.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: Nice job. Location is kind of chosen for you because
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: it's at gen Con.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: It's expensive location even, I mean we did it on
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: the cheap with staying in the.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Sheep shack, the sheep shack, baby, and and it was
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: good but not.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: A shacky fortress.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Portable key fortress.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: So venue, I hate to say, guys, I'm giving it
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: an f. Gen Con is not a great place for
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: key not.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: We also failed and again the one night that we
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: even got close to crazy, I wasn't there because of situation.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: Like we didn't. We did very little with anything, right, Yeah,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: we played some games.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: It was fine, but it Wast's fault.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you ain't wrong.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: We love mister Steve true, we love him, but it's
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: still his damn fault. We're working on next year already.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: He will try and go in early morning sessions.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to get him to come to KFC three.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: He cannot. He is a teacher, and that is too
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: many days off.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: I don't too many days off if it's at gen Conn?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: Are we going next year? Just because we can do
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: it so relatively cheap because we can Fortress of Solitude
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: and and we can drive it, so it makes it
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: a relatively cheap event. But like, am I gonna change
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: up what I'm doing and just be like, yeah, maybe
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: I'll just play and sealed next year?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it all depends because gen Con
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: is a it's a very pricey venue, right, It's a
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: very very pricey venue to spend four days playing.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: Q four one hundred and seventy five dollars just to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: playing the three events, not including any other travel costs.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: Correct, So it's very pricey food. They're also I feel
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: like they add five dollars on anything you buy.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: Because like the food trucks were fine.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Fine.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I kind of feel like the
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: food trucks have been there long enough that they're like,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: you know what, we don't actually have to be good
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: to get people to come back to us. We just
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: have to be here.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: We have to be serviceable.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: We due to timing because our lunch breaks were relatively
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: near lunch times that when we got out there, several
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: of the lines were like, there's no way we're going
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: to get that and get back to play our next game.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: So we had to go to the shorter lines. So
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: that might have indicated that we were at the not
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: the best food ones.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought the food was fine.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: It's just it was fine, but it wasn't like it.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: I want to go explore more of those food trucks
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: I ate at. I don't need to eat them again. Yeah,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Chef Dan was pretty good. I would
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: eat that again.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Chef Dan was pretty good. Out of all the places
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: that was actually pretty good. But I mean it's all close.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: So that was fine partying experience. We didn't really do anything.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: We played at the Marriotte all four nights.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: I had had fun with one drink the whole time.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the stories alone from Ghostbuster Girl, it
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: was totally worth it.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: So missed them.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: So And for the one person out there that has
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: taken this too far, please stop emailing.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: But we.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, please stop. It's just getting creepy now.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: I keep I keep.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Looking through gen Con other people's gen Con pictures looking
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: for a Ghostbusters Girl. Oh, because I want to find
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: Ghostbuster Girl and then I can send the picture to
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: you and you can confirm if it's her.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: We can gonna lie. I have never looked so, nor
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: do I want to two thumbs up there?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: All right, So the after hours activities with Ghostbuster Girl
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: and games does it?
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: They were? Yeah? They were? They were fine. You're we
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: hung out with good people. Yeah, rep Out hung out
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: with us a bunch and it was that was all good.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: Sydney hooked us up with a bunch of free access
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: to free food and drinks, not alcoholic drinks, but that
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: was it was. It was fine in that regard, but
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: it just wasn't. I don't know.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: I definitely the key experience. I think you're thinking, I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: think it's a d.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: I think the reason the reason it is and you
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: can see this year and year out is gen Coin's
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: a large gaming experience. You're paying you're paying a large
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: cost to get into gen Con and go through that experience.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: But frankly, we were over in the stadium playing KeyForge,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: doing very little gaming that you know, you're walking the halls.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: You get a little bit of time, but it's not
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: worth the rest of the investment if.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: You want to make a comment on prize value, which
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: I don't think they need to pay for the cost
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: of gen Con in their prizing, but still the prizing
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: was kind of still underwhelming, not actually underwhelming for the
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: number of players attending, though if you were to look
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: at it versus number of players at ten they probably
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: did just fine.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: They probably did find similar number to Roseville than they got.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: No, but the gen Con is pulling much larger numbers.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: The problem is you have too much else that's happening
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: at gen Con, and we had people who actually played
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: Keep Forces that stopped by but simply said, we didn't
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: know prizing ahead of time. The cost was here, there's
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: too many other things to do, and so they chose
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: not to imst last year's help correct and so all
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: of that filled in to go ahead and say no,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: thank you. I met gen Con, I'm paying a large
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: amount of money. I'm going to go and enjoy the
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: other aspects there. That's other games, that's the hall, so
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: that has to be kept in mind. I honestly think
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: that going ahead and frankly moving Nationals to a spot
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: that is more like their home base at Roseville and
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: eliminating their vault at Roseville so you only have one
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: event there, I think that is perfect celebrated the still celebration,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: but you have your one Nationals there or somewhere else
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: that's again a little bit more centrally located. That would
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: be my choice. I think that having a large, sealed
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: event or having something fun that is different from Nationals
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: or different from the vault at gen Con is important.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I think their presence there is really really key. But
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: going ahead and having multiple events and being able to
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: run them there, I don't. I don't see that as
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: a good choice and running Nationals at gen Con.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: We covered this after Nationals. Yeah, we're close.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: All with the images here in Chatwookie, I'm not looking.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I didn't even look.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know, not no. So now now we've got
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: to start putting in the work. Can be bringing the
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: A grade to celebrations.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean we've got we've got
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: some plans right for people going and for people not going.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: We're we're working on it. I mean, I'm just I'm
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: hoping that celebrations of the good time, we'll kind.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Of see what did goot buster girl have a nose ring?
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that. I'm going no, I don't remember.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: To be sorry, there are pictures and now you've distracted me.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not distracted.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: That was the part.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: But I mean either way, like, it's just it is
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: a big time investment into something you're spending a bucket
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: of money on to go there soul.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: There are last nighttime sealed events at this one though,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: right there's there's just the there's the tokens of change.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Well that was it from last year too, so there
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: was just the what you McCall it? So overall, what
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: would you give this Vault Tour season twenty twenty four?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Obviously we're done, the majors are over with and we're
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: just waiting for KFC. What would you give this Vault
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: Tour season?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: I mean for the when I when I say season
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: at home, I want an event. So it goes up
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: in a letter grade season as a whole. Okay, ah,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: this this was the season was fine for me. It
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: was solid bat plus would do again. It is down
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: from last year, not because of prizing, but because there
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: were a handful of people who were coming to events
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: last year that are not coming to events this year.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: And that's that was that was a bummer.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: But they're not coming due to prising, isn't it?
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Or no?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: No, no, okay no I I I don't know.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: Anybody who actually said they weren't coming due to prising.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: I know a few people have come due to some
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: other issues with Gigi stewardship of the game, not prizing related,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: and then and some people I know who quit because
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: of how they dealt with changing alliance bands and all
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: the work they had done planning for the season got
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: eliminated when they changed the alliance bands at the end
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: of last season. So like the stuff they wanted to
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: play never even had a chance to get played, got
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: banned before it even hit tables.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: I still think that's silly.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like I understand the frustration, but at the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: same point, like you knew the band list was going
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: to be updated, you kind of got to take that
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: as like, that's your off season, wait for the new
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: band list, and then make your.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Planning good working right like I mean, But the short
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: answer is, Wookie, a number of these players just aren't
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: going to come back. I do agree with I do
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: agree with with Sheep both of those issues stated here
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: US side. I don't feel that the loss of money
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: had a major impact in people not showing up. I
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: will tell you that I.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: Think does seem to impact the internet market more.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, there was a lot of typically the
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: EU market, yes, yes, I no other markets.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: I guess never had vaults.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean when you have a travel voucher that's
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: worth anywhere from two to three thousand.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: Dollars, it wasn't It wasn't the travel.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: Very meaningful to the EU market too, just to.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: Be able to see that there was a a prize
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: to be able to go for Yeah, draft score? What
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: do you give the overall vault tour twenty twenty four?
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, BB plus Yeah are there?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: You guys are very generous walk.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: I want ahead and go b. I think we have
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal group of individuals. I think that the investment
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: in our local communities where a lot of the vaults
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: were run. Was really nice to see. I think that
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: we have some work to be able to do on prizing,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: but frankly, I don't know what that is. I think
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: we're stepping in proving, but there it's still too top
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: loaded on first place, and I think that there's some
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: work that can be done. I still I really like
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: our group, and even though the numbers have decreased, I
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: think that it has been a really good vault season,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: so I still give it.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: A beat.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Interesting interesting, I give it a CCNUS.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: And why is that.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: I think the prizing needs to be more like, I
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: need to know prising writ down transparency.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: I need to know.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Prizing for every single event by KFC. I need to
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: know when they are and I need to know what
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: I am getting for them. I was very ecstatic and
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: happy in the moment that I hit a second place.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: It is the highest I have finished to date. I
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: had to beg, borrow and steal a deck to do it,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: and that's fine. But I played well and then when
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: I got what I got, I was like, oh.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: Cool. Like I was a little letdown.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: You were a lot let down.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: I was a lot let down.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: And I agree with sheep that the cost of gen
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Con does not need to be like recouped in the prising,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: because I understand that's probably not feasible.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: However, people go home with absolutely nothing from jen Con
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 4: except having spent more money.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Sure, well, but that frankly, that's what we did as
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: a whole. Everything was done attractiveness.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: When it comes down to it. I look at the
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Nationals event was a very similar size to Roseville, and
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like I walked away with a lot less.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: And I still disagree you have access to worlds right now.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: We look at access to worlds very differently, Yeah, very
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: different because I don't think you are going to have
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: one problem qualifying an LCQ to get into either because
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: my assumption is sealed spots are going to fill up
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: quick and then it's going to go ARCon and then
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: it's going to go Alliance. And the fact of the
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: matter is with the amount of people that I I
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: and you guys tell me I'm crazy, but with the
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: amount of people I expect to be at KFC, I
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: feel like if.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: You show up, you're going to get a World's invite.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: Because there's going to be one hundred people there.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: I don't I think you're incredibly wrong. So I I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: think it's going to I think it's going to be
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: about seventy. I feel like it's going to be about seventy.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that's I think it's gonna be closer
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: to one hundred.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: But okay, I mean, and we'll only time will tell
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: at this this point in time, and.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: I think what you're what the thing with nationals is
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: most Nationals are going to be probably closer to the
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: size or smaller than even US, which means the prize,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: like the with both the Vaults and the national I'm sorry,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: the prizes don't scale at all with participation.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: But also picture this. Didn't this kit for Nationals cost
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars? Believe that was the case, but that
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: can you imagine getting five if you spend five hundred
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: dollars and that's what you get running the math, and it.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: Was you were paying cost for that stuff. If you
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: look at how much stuff is in there, it's it
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: was like considered cost or something, which is about what
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: our prize kits have been.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Eight plates, eight play mats times so twenty four play mats.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot of play mats.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: Deck walk I know, Wookie, You're you're you're hitting on
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: national we still have international vaults coming up. You have
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: some other nationals coming. I'm going to tell you that, Frankly,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: the thing that I want to see for KFC, and
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: then Josh, this is for you GG team as a whole.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: We need to see local oh P support and I
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: love what we're doing with Mars. It's one event there,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: your Store Championship one event. We got two events for
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: the year, so we need those events, but we need
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: them a lot more consistent because what's weird?
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm just gonna throw this out there because
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: I I one hundred percent agree with you, and we've
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: been beating that. That's another horse that we've just got.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to fred is there and we're gonna keep
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: but I want to see it at I want to
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: I want to see an outline for KFC and that
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: needs to be there.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Because what's crazy is the Mars event came out and
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, people are like, I want to
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: play the Mars event and they're and now they're showing
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: up like the Mars all of a sudden, we have
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: two new people at our locals. We've been playing at
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: the same place for over a year and it wasn't
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: until the Mars locals came out that so that people
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: are shows something that is exciting somebody somewhere to show up.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: But we have to say thank you to Josh and
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: the GG staff for that, like that is showing that
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: your effort is paying off. But we need to be
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: able to have again that incentive for others locally. And
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: then we need to know what the items are and
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: when they are for nationals and for vaults, and we
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: need to have some incentive. There needs to be some carrots,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: and that could be simple. That could simply be something
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: as simple as a walk away. Here's your token, here's
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: you know, here's a little bit that you're getting from
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: this experience. But there needs to be.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: Something you walk is saying he must be paid to
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: do things. No, no, no, no, I am not.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: I am not actually saying that it is money. I
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: don't think that that's sustainable.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: To be paid money. There's other ways to pay people
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 4: and stuff. This this mars Kt is is uh. The
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: thing is so this Marsket is great. Everybody's enjoying it.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 4: It's fun. This had to have taken significantly more work
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: than what Jam is posting over in the thing, which
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: is cardboard tokens or the Mars kits. Like I actually
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: wonder what takes more time, like developing and getting all
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: this stuff printed because all that was third party by
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: f FG. But like the uh, the marsket is actually
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: interesting where the traditional kits we got from f FG
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: were boring.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not bad. Yeah I thought the I thought
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: there was incentive to come back week after week for
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: the alternate art because you had a leader, but the.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: Whole way that was implemented was trash.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, but I'm saying the idea we
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: need to have reasons to bring people back.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: And we're saying that with the Mars event. With the
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: Mars Event, a lot of people are like, yes, okay, this.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: Is we're running at multiple I'm sure there seems to
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: be a lot of confusion where people are like the
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: Mars van and they're like, well, but I want to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: play to get a better deck, and it's like, but
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: your deck, I mean it's the Mars event. Like you're
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: playing for your faction and that's something, but like your
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: overall results in the Mars event are not that meaningful.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: No, they're not meaning to somebody, clearly because new people
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: are showing up. People we've never met, people who want,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: who have people who have Let's talk about this. People
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: who have lapsed from the game have come back to
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: play to.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: Now be a part of this event. The Mars event
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: has done what Alliance never could.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: So exactly exactly what we talked about two years ago,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: bringing those lapsed players back. Your Mars event did it?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: Pete.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's still in our chat, he's
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: he what what did you say? He got it in
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: a World's Clyde and kind of like just didn't He
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: just kind of played at home and never really did
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: anything with it. And then the Myers event came out
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: and he's like, I should find a local, and I'm
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: gonna guess he found Josh's little map and found out
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: we were playing near him, and he came out and
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: did it.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's certainly because Kryptonite showed up on it, and
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: he showed up on my Kryptonite discord, going like, uh,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: what are you guys doing? And then I was like, Uh,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: you're gonna have to drive with Walkie sir. Probably more
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: hours of driving he is. He's driving two hours, I
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: think to play with us.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: Right wow, So I mean you're talking like it's exactly
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: what she said. You brought Alliance to bring players back
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: and but that didn't work. But for whatever reason, this
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: Mars kid did. And so it doesn't doesn't necessarily have
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: to be a storyline event. But if we had monthly
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: ideas of something that we could get something going. I mean,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: this is this is what these fun little kids are
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: what bringing people back.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: Bring it deck from home that has this house boom.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: There are different there are different things here. I know
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: we've got I didn't think.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't think the Mars kit was what was going
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: to do it. But something just as silly as that.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: Was what did it well, because the game is still
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: a very enjoyable game. People like it, people have enjoyed it.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: The problem is is we haven't been consistent.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: Wah, twelve people signed up for Saturday Saturday.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: I mean it's it's it's weird, but more of like,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: this doesn't got to be a civil war. I don't
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: and again I'm not paid to come up with these
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: kinds of ideas, so have at it.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: But something is to that.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think it has to it can't be something
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: as a bring a deck with this house, because anybody
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: could do that and we've done that and that hasn't
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: gone anywhere. But just like something special, something that makes it.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: People have a reason to fight. There is an impact
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: rebel or your elders, that's why.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: So I mean, maybe we need to talk to Pete
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: and be like, what was it about this event that
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: like made you want to, like all of a sudden
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: come out to the stores and do something where you
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: didn't feel that need before. Because obviously this this was
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: a thing that got him and I don't know what
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: what's our other guy's name, Alex what?
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: What triggered them to be like, yep, I need to
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: come out and play key Forge again.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah Alex was. I think he said his buddy got
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: some cheap ao A decks. Then they played him and
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: he said that was enough to come and I think
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: he saw the sign in the store. Sometime he still
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: shows up and plays magic instead.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, fair enough, but this is the thing. So
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: high expectations for KFC, because I mean I do expect
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: to find out where the vaults are going to be
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: next year. What, what's what my time frame is, what
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: my event they're going to be, and what my prize
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: support is. I need the who, what, when and where
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five so I can start number one,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: I can start planning my PTO days. That's a that's
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: a big deal for a lot of people. You walk
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: Sheep Daz cor not me so much.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: I'm out, but.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: You're out.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have any more days.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no for twenty set for twenty twenty five.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I am all the way out until June
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five because I have days already set
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: with this section of the year.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well do.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: They want you to like teach kids or something?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: We have?
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, consistency and education. That that sounds dumb.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just put on a movie.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 4: Third day with the movie Yeah they'll be fine.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, put on Glory and just say tell the
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: parents we're going to fast forward through the canniball scene.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: But then you forget because you're not there.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: It'll be great. And then and then you just put
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: them on whatever. When the kids went remote and there
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: was that crappy education thing they were supposed to log into.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: And none of them ever did.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you just tell your kids to do that. They'll
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: be fine. It worked a few years ago.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think you guys have any clue on how
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: to educate children.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 4: You are you are correct. You are.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: Going to have us and sit here and say thank
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: you for not even dren good beer.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: Look how serious he's become.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: I got We're done. Yeah, it is done. Yeah, but
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: double dry hopped hazy I p a yeah tonight, but
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: well we'll see what comes of KFC.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: What were do we have a We don't have a countdown.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like we need a countdown. So we need
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: a countdown to KFC on on draw Better Dot Cards
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: Visit drop Better Dot Cards.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: We guys, we're gonna have to do something about that
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: when Abray Skies comes out with to get our act together,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah we do.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because we don't tell people anybody have a good night.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: We have an international vault.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have to like rate cards on the show.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: You know, we never got all the way through gr
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah we did. You know, we finished gr over, We
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: finished gr talking about everything is great, Kills Brio Done O.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Mars and get real good good everything.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: I uh so you know how game founs starting to ship.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: I definitely my name deck is kills Brio this time.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: It shouldn't be that long before we get us shipping notices.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: So does that mean your deck kills Brio?
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: Better otherwise about to return it? Like you, We got
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: to get on that on that sheet.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 4: So we don't even have a full spoiler, so we
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: ain't doing nothing. Yeah, once it comes out, we'll do something.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: This is true. Yeah, we finished them. We finished reminders.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: You must not have been here. Maybe you're driving somewhere.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think so.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 3: Guys, I think we did.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: If you're looking at a clips, we finished. Those episodes
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: may have also been deleted or lost, but we did finish.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: That's what it was. My store game found is still
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: not fulfilled, so they have not shipped the store stuff yet.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: But I'm wondering if mass Mutation is printed and if
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: that's why mind and.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: Not only that, when's the pre release dates?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: Figuring out.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: Picture of the of an amber Sky's pre release kit.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: But I wonder if that is staying outside of the
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: op track where it's just some retail packaging and doesn't
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: actually mean anything again, probably and what and what random
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: key Forge trinket. Are they gonna put in this one?
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah, that is.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: Damn he's linked in our thing. Somebody's got it up
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: for pre order, which is funny because I have not.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: I I even logged in to look to see if
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: my store can order this and I cannot. Oh. It
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: says it is going to contain three Amber skies and
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: a Skyborn pin.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: Oh the pins. Yeah, I remember they have the pins
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: last year.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and this time it's gonna it's it's suggesting three
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: Amber Sky's decks and a sky Skyborne pin for retail
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: of three decks by three decks get a free pin.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: That's actually not a terrible deal for a store to
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: be able to offer, but having to order that as
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: a separate.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: You is.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: Depends a separate skew. Now, the pre release packs regular
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: decks and they are It's funny. This places us multiple
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: in stock. Oh no, it is that does say pre order.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of the mars kits, not skinned like they're
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: scannable for us, but for the store for they.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well they're not meant for retail sales, so they
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: do not have a retail ski.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: But that but if you have not run your fence
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: like that caused some issues for our own store.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: How to put it, cast some issues for our store
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: where they are charging dollars for magic events but they
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: can't for out how to charge dollars for key Forge events.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's a whole another That's a topic not
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: for us for this show because it has nothing to
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: do with g G. The inadequacies and an eptices of
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: certain people that work at a certain location. Are we
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: gonna maybe speaking if we had any skills, we could
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: start game store rescue instead of bar rescue.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so so speaking of inadequacies, I s I'm checking
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: notes here. So we definitely did Brobnar. We definitely did Ecuador. Everybody,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: this is a great listening experience. How do I be
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: with you? Kick kick kick dress course, there it is,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 3: But that's gonna do it for us office week did
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: the outro, We'll do what.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: We did it.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: We'll see next week. Fortunate stuff.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: With you. Oh you want
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: The west Renard time, don tap start shop deal