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The Fall of the Franchise? · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Almost Fais podcast. We are here today
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  Speaker 2: to break down all the headlines happening in Bachelor Nation.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley has read, up, studied, investigated, and is an expert
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  Speaker 2: at all of these headlines, and so she joins us
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  Speaker 2: today to answer any questions I may have. The first
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  Speaker 2: headline is this Jen Tran I saw this actually reacts
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  Speaker 2: to Bachelor franchise being in shambles because of her and
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  Speaker 2: Grant Ellis. Now I want to say, Ashley, before you
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  Speaker 2: break this down, that headline is hinting at something. It's
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  Speaker 2: that fans are blaming Jen and Grant for the downfall
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  Speaker 2: of the show, and so Jen is coming to react
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  Speaker 2: to that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly why are you blaming Jen? She had been
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  Speaker 3: screwed over by a guy that they didn't vet and
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  Speaker 3: he was a fraud. Honestly, so Grant, well, Grant, I
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  Speaker 3: just don't think it was the greatest lead.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway, people are blaming them for the fall of
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  Speaker 4: the franchise.
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  Speaker 3: That's just that's that's ridiculous, ridiculous, yah yah, And she
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  Speaker 3: is kind of joking back by saying no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: you guys are looking at it all wrong. I was
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  Speaker 3: actually such an amazing bachelorette and my relationship ended in
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  Speaker 3: such success. They could simply never find anyone to replace me,
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  Speaker 3: because my season will forever be ingrained in your little
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  Speaker 3: brains and you're never going to get it out of
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  Speaker 3: your head. Thank you say it with me, Long Live
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  Speaker 3: Jen Tran. That's what she captioned it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of funny, it's it also takes
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  Speaker 2: some confidence.
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  Speaker 4: Ye Hey, her season was incredibly memorable.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I think her season was great. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: we can blame jan for the downfall of this show.
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  Speaker 2: I think the show was on kind of a ratings
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  Speaker 2: like some ratings momentum coming off a Joey's season. I
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  Speaker 2: think they had every opportunity to bring this kind of
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  Speaker 2: momentum in through the Golden Shows and The Bachelorette and
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  Speaker 2: The Bachelor. And I do think fans reacted to the
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  Speaker 2: fact that Jin had such a precast and had some
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  Speaker 2: guys on there that obviously should never have been on
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  Speaker 2: national television. And I think the show definitely felt the
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  Speaker 2: repercussions from fans saying I'm done watching this show. If
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  Speaker 2: I can't even watch it and know that these dudes
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  Speaker 2: are decent dudes, and then I do I think Grant
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  Speaker 2: season struggled. It struggled to find a storyline, It struggled
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  Speaker 2: to find any like buy in from the audiences. It
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  Speaker 2: felt disconnected, and as a result, I think all those
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  Speaker 2: things kind of compiled on for the show to be
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  Speaker 2: where it's at today now Ashlely, we're hearing rumors because
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  Speaker 2: it's it means out there the Bachelor has not been
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  Speaker 2: picked up for another season at this point, which at
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  Speaker 2: this point in time usually it is, and we're hearing
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  Speaker 2: rumors that Paradise's ratings will have a massive on if
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  Speaker 2: The Bachelor gets picked up or not for another season.
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  Speaker 2: So the waight now on Paradise is incredible, and it's
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  Speaker 2: a whole new production team coming in to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I guess my simple question to you is it's not simple,
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  Speaker 2: but do you think Paradise will deliver?
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  Speaker 3: I'm so loyal to the past group of producers that like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to just say that they have a lot
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  Speaker 3: to live up to, But I do think people are
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  Speaker 3: really excited for Paradise to be back after the break year.
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  Speaker 3: I said, the break year is probably in the favor
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  Speaker 3: of a new production crew because people have been you know,
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  Speaker 3: they just missing it, so they're eager to press play
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  Speaker 3: on the first or second episode.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be whether they can grasp them.
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  Speaker 3: In that to continue people to continue to have people
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  Speaker 3: watch it throughout.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a big question looming over Paradise
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  Speaker 2: all season. Are people watching or not? And here is
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  Speaker 2: my take, They're gonna have a hard time with people
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  Speaker 2: watching because a lot of these cast members fans have
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  Speaker 2: never bought into.
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  Speaker 4: We shall see.
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  Speaker 3: Our next headline actually has to do with the state
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  Speaker 3: of the franchise.
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  Speaker 2: Disney TV boss talks future of Bachelor franchise, says new
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  Speaker 2: leads must meet the bar of excellence.
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  Speaker 4: So there's shade.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Jen, I understand you being annoyed at that comment,
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  Speaker 3: but I still don't think that's aimed at Jen. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's aimed at Grant.
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  Speaker 2: I read this headline with complete shade, like they're definitely
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  Speaker 2: blaming leads for the downfall of.
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  Speaker 4: The show, which isn't it on them to pick the lead?
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  Speaker 2: That was my question is then whose job is to
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  Speaker 2: pick the lead? Because I know the extensive process by
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  Speaker 2: which this goes through. It used to kind of just
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  Speaker 2: be a Mike Fleiss decision, I know, and then he
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  Speaker 2: would kind of pass it off. But now I'm imagining
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  Speaker 2: that it did go through a bunch of different lanes
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  Speaker 2: to actually say, yeah, you can be our lead. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping and I'll get in trouble for this at
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  Speaker 2: some point in time. Now, you and I both have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of respect for the teams that put on
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  Speaker 2: this show. We have a lot of admiration for the
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  Speaker 2: executives who have cultivated this show for so many seasons.
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  Speaker 2: At some point, though, in any leadership role, big or small,
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  Speaker 2: when failure happens, you have to start looking internally too,
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  Speaker 2: at yourself. You cannot just continue to blame external factors
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  Speaker 2: or decision makings that somebody else did. Because ultimately, this
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  Speaker 2: headline says a TV boss talks future of Bachelor franchise.
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  Speaker 2: They are they have the ability to speak into this
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  Speaker 2: if this is something they actually care about, and so
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  Speaker 2: if anybody listens from the franchise, this might reve you
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  Speaker 2: the wrong way. And I'm not telling anybody specifically, but
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  Speaker 2: if you feel convicted by the statement that I just made,
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's a sign that you should start looking internally
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  Speaker 2: and also blaming yourself for some of the downfalls that
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  Speaker 2: have existed over the last few years.
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  Speaker 3: But well put okay, So this is his quote. He says,
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  Speaker 3: the Bachelor universe continues to be very important to us.
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  Speaker 3: The Bachelor installments are no different than any other show.
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  Speaker 3: You have to have the right cast and the right
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  Speaker 3: people in front of the camera who have an amazing
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  Speaker 3: story to tell, but also who are willing to share
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  Speaker 3: their story and reveal themselves. We're only going to roll
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  Speaker 3: out these as they come together and meet the bar
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  Speaker 3: of excellence that the tradition of the show has set.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so it sounds like it could take off seasons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is what it sounds like, because he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: if there aren't people willing to do that, we don't
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  Speaker 3: find these people, then we're only going to put it.
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  Speaker 4: We're only going to put out good people, is what
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  Speaker 4: they're saying.
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Norris, former Bachelorette contestant and Bachelor and Paradise contestant,
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  Speaker 2: is engaged to his fiancee Alyssa.
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  Speaker 3: Yes congratulations you q on Instagram where he announced he said, well, well,
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  Speaker 3: I've been dreaming of this day since I first met you.
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  Speaker 3: You're everything I could have asked for and more. How
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  Speaker 3: to get so lucky to meet you still doesn't make
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  Speaker 3: sense to me. I love you more than I can
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  Speaker 3: explain less. And now let's do this damn thing future,
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  Speaker 3: Missus Norris, love your fiance.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't on BECA season?
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  Speaker 4: Was he? He was on? He was on Tues Seasons
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  Speaker 4: of Paradise. He was on. No, he was definitely not
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  Speaker 4: on BECA season. He was on.
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  Speaker 2: He's quoting a bachelorette during his.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see this damn thing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Ugh, he wasn't the Bachelor. Okay, the Bachelor along
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  Speaker 2: Luke pell mayor is Haley James and western formal wedding
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  Speaker 2: at his family's Texas ranch.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you and I were friends with Luke back at
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  Speaker 3: Bachelor Winter Games.
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  Speaker 2: Congrats.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we're very happy for him. He and Haley have
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  Speaker 3: been together for quite some time and they got married
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  Speaker 3: over this past weekend. It was on his family's ranch
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  Speaker 3: that we saw back when he was on Jojo season.
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  Speaker 3: They had one hundred and seventy guests. They had street
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  Speaker 3: tacos and barbecue and roast chicken and waffles, and they
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  Speaker 3: had what a burger as a late night stack and
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  Speaker 3: instead of one and kick, they had peach cobbler and
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  Speaker 3: banana pudding. They are looking forward to starting a family together.
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  Speaker 2: Congrats Luke, Congratulations to Haley. Congratulations also to Tyler Norris
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  Speaker 2: and his fiancee Alyssa. Love is in the air in
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation and the final headline is this where people
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  Speaker 2: are questioning if love still is in the air. Juliana
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  Speaker 2: and Grant discuss breakup rumors that fans have been wondering
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  Speaker 2: about and if they're still going to Italy.
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  Speaker 3: So they did a Q and A on their Instagram stories.
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  Speaker 3: We saw them get proposed just two months ago, and
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  Speaker 3: right now they're talking about, you know, they're a dressing
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  Speaker 3: the rumors, and Grant says, we have just been getting
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  Speaker 3: ready for the move and everything, but we are together.
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  Speaker 3: They're moving in together in Boston, or at least that
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  Speaker 3: was the plan when they announced their relationship two months ago,
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  Speaker 3: and he said that when the move happens, we're about
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  Speaker 3: to be everywhere. Juliana also responded to the rumors, saying
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  Speaker 3: it was just a bad rumor, lol, and she hung
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  Speaker 3: up her ring in the video with Grant in the background,
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  Speaker 3: and she said that they have booked flights to Italy
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  Speaker 3: for the trip that the show gets.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sweet. We hope they're still together.
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  Speaker 3: We're glad, but you know what, can I just be
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of a drama queen right now, a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a gossip queen. Always it seems like
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  Speaker 3: there might be some trouble in paradise. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is not like the most definitive sounding response to these rumors.
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  Speaker 2: We've had a lot of bachelor and bachelorette couples tell
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  Speaker 2: us they're doing great, uh, when in fact they're not.
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  Speaker 2: So it's I'm always a little hesitant until like the
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  Speaker 2: day they get married that you know there is trouble
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  Speaker 2: in paradise. I just don't. I don't know what the
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  Speaker 2: two of them.
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  Speaker 3: Then it's the way that he worded this, okay, because
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  Speaker 3: I could break this down instead of saying we are together,
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  Speaker 3: we're excited to move in together in our new apartment
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  Speaker 3: in Boston in so and so months or like next
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  Speaker 3: month or next week or whatever. Instead he started by responding,
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  Speaker 3: we have just I also feel like the word just
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  Speaker 3: is like, Okay, we have just been getting ready for
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  Speaker 3: the move and everything, what's and everything? But we are together,
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  Speaker 3: but we are together, just the way that that's worded,
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  Speaker 3: is not worded with.
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  Speaker 4: A sense of confidence or clarity. No details.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll watch, we'll pay attention. So much happening in
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  Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation, so much love in the air. Until next time.
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  Speaker 3: I've been, Ben, I've been, Ashley Grant and Juliana are
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  Speaker 3: probably never coming on our podcast.
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  Speaker 4: See you next time. Bye.
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