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LJ Andrews: The Ever King, Fated Mates & Spice · Two Girls, One TBR

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  Hey ebook babes, welcome back to 2 girls 1 TBR your chaotic book
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  besties here to wreck your reading list one more the Gray
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  man at a time I'm. Rebecca and I'm Heather, you can
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  find me at at Kindle Me Reading on IG.
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  And I'm Chelsea, so. Today we have the Massa Queen of
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  the Ever Seas herself, LJ Andrews, in the studio.
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  We're talking pirates, Vikings, bone jewelry, and highly
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  anticipated release of the stolen crown this fall.
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  That's super exciting. So exciting.
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  Yes, I love LJ, I've actually met her in person last summer
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  with Melissa K Rourke. And they're fun do together to
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  begin with, but they're just very nice people, very friendly.
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  So I think today is just going to be a lot of us just hanging
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  out. It'll be great.
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  Yeah, I got to meet her at Romantic Econ.
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  Oh, that's right. She was next to Melissa.
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  But I didn't get to see them interact together.
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  And I wish, I wish I had that experience.
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  But yes, you're, you're so right that they're just like really
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  cool down to earth people. Very much so.
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  No, Chelsea, you were talking about romantic Secon and you saw
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  her? Yeah.
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  Did you get to give her one of your?
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  Dragons. Yes.
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  She picked like a pearlish white one.
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  Cute. Yeah, Yeah.
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  So she has one. You know, did you?
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  Finish ever king, did you? I know you were starting.
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  No, I started. It's so good.
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  I really like her writing style. It's it's very like, I don't
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  know how to describe it. Like punchy?
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  Yeah. Well, it's just like it's not,
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  it's just so unique, you know, like it's not just like she uses
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  different phrases for everything, you know, it's not
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  children, it's littles and things like that.
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  And I really enjoy it so. Years or turns.
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  Turns. Yeah.
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  She kind of creates, like, her own language.
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  Yeah. Inside the story.
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  So when you read it, it feels like you're part of this
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  universe. A different universe, yes,
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  exactly so. But you still get it.
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  But it takes a minute to, like, get used to it, you know?
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  And I like that, yeah. If you do the audiobooks, they,
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  the way they read it too, it's very Norse in a way where when I
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  read like her Broken Souls and Bones before that was an
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  audiobook, I read it and it reads kind like in a certain
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  kind of, but umm, but umm, but umm, yeah.
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  And I think the audiobooks help me understand that because I was
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  trying to just like read it like how I normally read books and
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  stuff, like in my own head, my own way.
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  And I was like, no, I think they're saying it like this and
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  makes more sense that way, kind of like slow it down and think
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  about the accents that they might have, right.
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  And it brings it the words together a little better.
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  It's like more I don't even know how to say.
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  Like it's more like Shakespeare ish.
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  In a way, yeah. You know, like, I don't know,
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  kind of. Clipped Yeah, yeah, there's not
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  much like she doesn't like fluff stuff.
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  There's not a lot of extra wording like it is like it is
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  what it is. You have to be kind of like,
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  yeah, it's like, it's just like that good, like banter and the
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  good dialogue where it's like, you got to keep up.
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  Like you have to like, know what they're taught, you know?
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  Yes, and there's no like repetition, right?
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  And so, so like if you got the joke earlier and it's like
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  brought back, it's it's one of those like fun.
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  Like I remember them like laughing about that.
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  Now look where they are, you know?
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  Yeah. So she does a really good job
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  with that kind of flow. Yeah.
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  So yeah, I really like it. Yeah, I had to finish it, but I,
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  I was, I was trying so hard to stay up last night and I was
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  enjoying it, but I, I was so dead after the baby shower.
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  I was like, OK. I need to go.
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  Oh yeah, yeah. Now what do you girls are
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  currently reading right now? I just finished an arc called
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  the Weaver's Loom. So it's like a witchy but with
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  shifters say, and what else is there?
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  I can't remember. There's like 4 different oh
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  fairies and they all have like different magics and stuff.
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  And their immortality gets taken away so that they can be a part
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  of the human society because the humans are always like hunting
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  them and like hurting them kind of thing.
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  And yeah, they're like back story stuff.
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  But yeah, it was really good. And this inspector comes along,
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  It kind of feels like a Sherlock Holmes and Watson kind of thing
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  at first. Then it kind of gets more into
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  like, the magical system of things.
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  And she meets a lot of, like, hot guys that like, help her
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  inspect and stuff. I'm like, Oh my gosh, which one
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  are we picking here? Like, we've got a lot of
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  candidates. This is great.
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  Now is it is it a stand alone or is it a going to be a series?
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  I think it's a duology. Book 1 ends well.
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  So like it ends what is happening in book one.
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  It concludes, but then it also has that ending where it like
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  kind of pushes what will be coming into Book 2.
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  And there's not a lot of like there's not spice, like sex
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  spice, but there's a lot of like yearning or like hidden closet
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  kind of stuff or not like hallways, you know, like when
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  they like tuck each. Other in.
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  Because they they're like scared someone's walking by and like,
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  let's not get caught. Let's act like we're together.
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  So yeah, there's a lot of that, but not so much like the
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  interconnection parts. So in Book 2 we might, I don't
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  know, we might get something not connection.
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  Lots. Yet, yeah.
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  Interconnecting parts Chelsea, what are you reading?
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  So the Ever King is my like physical book that I'm reading.
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  I'm also started Throne of broken.
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  Wait, Throne of Broken Thrones of Broken Gods, The second one
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  of the Gods and Monsters by Amber.
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  OK, OK, I know what you're talking about.
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  OK, so the the book 2 that just came out because I have the I
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  technically have the arc of that, but it's out and then
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  that's my like kindle read and then I'm listening to because
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  I'm still in the blood and ash series.
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  But you're. Still, you're still in that.
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  That's the war. That's the War of 2 Queens.
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  OK, I think that's the book I finished or and definitely
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  skimmed the end of it. And then I was like, yeah, I'm
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  good. That was the last book I read of
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  that series. Yeah, I am so ready for it to
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  be. How?
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  Many How many more books do you have to go?
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  At least one more. There was like 2 more after.
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  That it could be two, it could be.
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  Again, I like. Them I finally so I have never
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  really listened to audiobooks on a faster speed because I kind of
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  just like enjoy hearing, you know, normal speed, but this one
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  I have finally kicked it up because I'm like I'm so done.
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  It's making me fall asleep while I'm driving.
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  Yeah. And so we need to get through
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  this damn thing. And I remember reading that book
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  and for some reason, what's his name, the wolf or in or
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  something? And I, I was like, why does his
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  voice seem different? And I felt I felt like somebody
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  else was writing the story at that point, like a good ghost
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  writer or somebody on her team finished the book for her or
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  something cuz it did not sound like hearing anymore.
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  He starts like cussing more like every other words, like a cuss
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  word and he doesn't explain much.
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  He just kind of like says the same things over and over again
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  and it just runs on. And I was like, OK, where's this
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  character going? Like, he was really good at the
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  beginning and then towards the end I'm like, this is getting
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  boring. Like, this is really bad.
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  Like the guy needs a few more words to say to like, express
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  himself. Yeah, well, and there's kind of
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  like a weird. But.
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  There's kind of like a weird thing going on where like I
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  can't tell if they're going to have a threesome or not.
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  I know. Yeah.
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  And I was like, all right, OK, we're getting somewhere, right?
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  Because I'm bored and. Yeah.
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  Then it's like, OK, so we're not.
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  We are, we're not. It's like what is happening
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  like. Do you love each other or not?
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  What's going on? And then they're like all
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  bonding and yeah, so. Do you think you'll finish it,
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  Chelsea? Do you think she'll?
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  Do you think you'll finish the series?
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  Yeah, you know, I've never not finished something so I will
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  hate read it till the very end. I will.
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  So good. For you.
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  Yeah. Then you can tell.
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  You can tell Heather the ending. You get there, since she's not
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  going to find out herself. If I, if I ever get there, I
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  will, yeah. I'll let you know.
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  I know. Oh man.
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  No, no, I'm reading. I'm reading because we had
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  Parker Garner on. I'm reading her.
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  Your path is sorrow. Hey everyone, please welcome the
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  incredible LJ Andrews, the author, the Pirate Queen, and
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  the official wrecker of our TBRS.
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  Yes. Welcome.
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  How are you doing? I'm so good.
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  How are you? Doing good.
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  We're all we're having an exciting day.
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  Heather's definitely having an exciting day with her boys.
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  Yeah, it's a full moon. I could feel it, Yeah.
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  Yeah. We're we're going to have.
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  I am. So.
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  So how have you been doing though?
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  You have your new book coming out here this fall.
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  Are you excited? I yes, I mean, it's short term
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  for answer. Yes, Also very nervous, of
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  course, because it's been delayed for quite a while.
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  So I, you know, when something's been sitting so long, you're
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  kind of like, OK, here it comes. It feels like it wasn't ever
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  going to be here, but now it's here.
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  So I'm excited. I'm actually reading through the
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  last like run through before it starts getting printed, so it's
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  pretty good. Yeah, very nice.
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  And what day does that come out? October 6th in the USI believe
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  it's the 8th in the UK so. Awesome.
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  I'm excited. And that is book four in the
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  Eversea. Series that's book 4, The Stolen
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  Crown, so I'm excited. We have a huge party planned in
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  Salt Lake City, so if anyone wants to come, we've got a lot
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  of authors that are joining me and we're gonna do this big
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  weekend event to celebrate just cuz it has been quite a while
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  since we've sailed in the Everseas.
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  So yeah, we have a huge event plan.
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  It's gonna be really, really fun.
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  So I hope people will join us. I'm sure people will be there.
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  Yes. Absolutely.
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  I would love to. I love Utah.
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  I lived out in California, Arizona.
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  I was a travel nurse for a long time, so I've been places.
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  Yeah. And Utah is beautiful.
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  Lake Powell is probably one of my favorites.
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  It's so pretty in there, yeah. I love just the rock and it
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  just, yeah, it's beautiful. It's it's a pretty state for
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  sure. Yeah, it's got its places.
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  Yeah, it does. It has some great places.
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  Everywhere has those. Yeah, a lot of like dead along
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  the way, but that's very pretty though in other.
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  Words, the beauty. Well, see, I'm in Kentucky.
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  I'm originally from Pennsylvania, but I'm in
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  Kentucky. I'm in just on the outside of
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  Louisville. So it was a big thing this past
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  weekend because it was the Kentucky Derby on Saturday.
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  Yeah, I saw trainer one. Like mystery or something.
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  Yep, she was the first female trainer to ever win the Kentucky
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  Derby, and it's 152 years. Wow.
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  Yeah. I saw that, yeah.
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  Cool. And and you got to remember the
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  race lasts 2 minutes. I mean all this and it's a pull
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  big fanfare they do here in Louisville starting several
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  weeks prior. They do Kentucky or Thunder over
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  Louisville, which is the largest firework display in North
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  America. They do this whole big thing and
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  it comes rain or shine and it's always really cold and I don't
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  go down there. I don't go down to the
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  waterfront because when it's Thunder it could.
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  You can run out of gas in your car trying to get out of the
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  area downtown. So I do not go down there.
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  But we could hear. We live probably about 20
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  minutes to 1/2 hour outside of downtown.
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  We could hear Thunder when it was happening here, but the But
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  the whole big race and everything was this past weekend
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  and everybody gets in there fancy dresses and yeah.
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  That'd be fun. Tickets were expensive this
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  year. If you wanted to be up in the
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  stands, it was like $1400 for two people.
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  Oh my God. That I think that was the
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  starting price and I know the, I think it's, is it called the
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  outfield or the infield? Whatever it is, those tickets
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  for two people were like around $800.
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  That's okay, I'll watch it on TV.
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  Yeah. But that's the excitement here.
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  And that's cool. Yeah, Now we also did something
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  special in honor of that. You are being on the episode
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  today because we do a sips and it's an alcoholic and a
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  mocktails and that we have two different drinks in your honor.
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  The first one, the alcoholic one is the Bone Jeweled Bride and
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  the mocktail is the Tide Collars Mist.
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  But we will have them up on our Instagram under the highlights
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  under sips. So anybody who wants to try to
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  make these fancy drinks. I like that they garnish it with
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  they call it a coarse white sea salt is the bone rim my Oh yes
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  boy and the blue rock candy for sea glass.
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  I'm like. I love it.
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  Love it. Oh, these are good.
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  We have all all different kinds of recipes.
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  We do this every episode we have a specific drink made for no
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  matter what we're doing, and so far we're trying to get Heather
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  to make them. I know I I'm the one with the
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  fancy glasses and stuff. So they're trying to catch me
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  into it, yeah. If we ever get well, if we ever
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  get our Patreon going, if we ever start that, I said that
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  would be a fun thing to do and people can come and watch
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  Heather make some fancy drinks. Yeah, that'd be great.
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  LJ has a big sound. Well, not even.
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  I don't think you have found family.
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  All your sisters, are they related to you or they found?
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  Family, two of them are sister in laws and then my 1 is my
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  older sister. So yeah, we are we're like
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  family dinner people. We're going to Hawaii together
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  in two weeks. So yeah, we're big family.
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  I lucked out in the in laws. You know sometimes when you get
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  marry and you don't always they're the best.
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  Like my sister in the Aubrey, she's like, if I ever divorce
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  your brother, I get you in the divorce, you know, like we've
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  been really, really close so. That's actually nice.
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  How many siblings do you have? I have two brothers and then my
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  older sisters, so there's four of us.
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  OK, 2. I'm a four.
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  I'm the only girl in the middle. Oh, really?
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we.
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  Had there. Yeah, I'm a middle child of
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  five, but yeah. Yeah.
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  I am the baby of my family, but there's only two of us.
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  How many kids do you have, LJ? 4.
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  Well, you have 40, so you have 4.
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  Yeah. Girls, so you're crazy.
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  Too at this point. Lucky.
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  That's a good that's. Awesome.
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  Though Yeah, so. My my oldest is going to be a
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  senior next year. I was a baby having babies.
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  I've like told her like she's like, how did you have me?
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  And I was like, so I don't regret you in the least.
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  But. May I encourage you see the
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  world a little bit, go live a little, right?
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  Yeah. And I was like, not that I
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  regret you, right? Yeah.
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  And then we have a 15 year old boy and a 13 year old boy.
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  And then we have our little one who's 9.
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  So nice little Princess. Yeah.
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  Oh yes. Oh yes.
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  Very opposite from her older sister.
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  My oldest is like horse girl, like I live on the ranch and
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  stuff, and then my other daughter's like fairy tales and
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  she's going to be a fashion designer.
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  She's so cute, though. It's like these little Barbie
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  mannequins and she sews clothes for them.
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  So wow, I'm going to see a fashion designer.
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  I was like, OK, Cruella, like let's.
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  Do that that's. Awesome.
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  You know, I, I saw the other day like the do you remember those
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  paper dolls? Yes.
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  And you would fold the things over.
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  To the open. She needs some of those, like I
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  missed those so much, I've got to be able to find them
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  somewhere. Oh, I'm sure we can buy.
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  Like she had those. I don't know, the like Velcro
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  ones where it's like a wooden doll and she could like the
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  clothes on it. But yeah, now she's like
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  legitimate sewing her own. I'm like, right sew.
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  So my gosh, have you seen like I started doing this embroidery
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  thing and this first one and I'm learning all these stitches and
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  I'm 37 this year. I had to think about how old I
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  was, but I'm like, I don't know how to sew, I don't know how to
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  stitch and things like that. So a nine year old could best.
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  Be man yeah, she's like a walk in.
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  She's like got her little Barbie mannequin and she's like, I'm
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  like, OK, do you go? I mean, it's better than just
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  like I guess doing something else, but.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great.
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  I remember Barbies. I think I was around 9 or 10
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  when I was like, these aren't cool anymore, you know?
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  So I wish she's utilizing them in all kinds of ways, right?
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  Like we don't have to play them as much anymore.
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  Yeah, but she's sewing on them. Yeah, smart lady.
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  I saved some of my Barbies from when I was a little girl because
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  I grew up in the 80s. So I have them.
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  The one has like rim tear and stuff, and my daughter has those
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  and she plays with them and, and then of course she has a few of
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  her own, but I still have some of the clothes from my Barbie.
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  But I never had like Barbie's dream house because that came
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  out like when I was like too, like I was getting too big, you
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  know what I mean? And then but she doesn't have
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  Barbie's dream house because her room's only so big.
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  So she has Barbie's Malibu house, and it's fancy, but it's
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  neat, though it all collapses into itself and it's a small.
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  Footprint then yeah, that's nice.
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  My dad built us a Barbie house when I was a kid because I
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  learned a lot. I never knew like that we didn't
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  when we were little. My my parents were fine.
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  They were like, well, off in like a way, but not like super,
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  you know what I mean? And so I didn't know.
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  And he's, I was like, I thought it was so cool.
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  We had a house. And my dad's like, yeah, it's
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  because we couldn't buy the dream house.
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  So I was like, and like, you didn't even know.
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  Like I was like, oh, this is better, you know what I mean?
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  Yeah. My mom has all of our old
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  Barbies still, though. It's funny to see.
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  She even has hers like from the 50s and the 60s.
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  Wow. Some of them, we keep those on a
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  shelf like to be really careful with, right?
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  Do you remember, do you ever see little Kittles, little these
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  little tiny dolls? And they're like from like the
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  50s and 60s. And so we have this house that
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  my mom used to play with. So yeah, that's for the
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  grandkids to be gentle with. Yes, yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah, there were so many cool
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  things growing up that I wish we had saved for our kids.
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  Yeah, it's kind of a bummer that we they.
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  Don't make toys as good as they used to either.
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  They break so easy now. Everything used to be durable.
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  Yeah, yeah. I have, I, I had Rainbow Brite
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  and I had, you know, my Care Bears and I had all those kind
• 19:44
  of things. My mom got rid of everything.
• 19:46
  But I did get to save my Barbies and I saved some of My Little
• 19:51
  Ponies. So my daughter does have those
• 19:54
  the. Original ones too.
• 19:56
  That's cool. And Cabbage Patch dolls.
• 19:58
  I had cabbage, yeah. Did you?
• 20:01
  I have the cabbage patch and I have three.
• 20:03
  Do you remember in the 80s they came out and it was like the
• 20:06
  preemies they had and it was all insane?
• 20:08
  I don't. Remember I was like so I don't
• 20:12
  remember. This well, I was born in 80.
• 20:14
  That's what year I was born. This would have happened like
• 20:16
  858687 somewhere in there. It was a whole big thing and
• 20:21
  people like moms lost their minds and they all had to go get
• 20:25
  these, the cabbage patched doll preemies.
• 20:27
  And I had and I have three of them.
• 20:29
  I have two. So that's crazy cool.
• 20:33
  Caitlin has them, and she has them in her room.
• 20:36
  I had. A Bitty Baby and American Girl
• 20:39
  dolls. I had American Girl dolls.
• 20:41
  Yeah, yeah, my daughter has American Girl dolls.
• 20:44
  Actually I still buy them for her because she likes it they.
• 20:46
  Have a lot of cool stuff. She's got Josephina, so cute.
• 20:51
  Nice. I had a Kristen or Kirsten.
• 20:54
  Oh, I had Kirsten. I didn't get a choice because
• 20:56
  we're Swedish and so that's why I ride Viking.
• 20:59
  And so my mom was like, you get Kirsten.
• 21:02
  Nice. I was going to ask you about
• 21:04
  that because all your books are like Norse mythology and I am
• 21:09
  like a second or third generation from Norway.
• 21:12
  So yeah. And so my great grandmother,
• 21:16
  yes, came over to, you know, Ellis Island from, Oh my.
• 21:21
  Norway, we have the grandmas that had the same story.
• 21:23
  Mine came from Sweden and she was funny about the Norwegians,
• 21:27
  just so you know, She was like, my mom would always say she's
• 21:29
  like all those Norwegians and stuff like that.
• 21:32
  So I guess they were a little rivalry a little.
• 21:35
  Probably Viking clans out there. You know, and the Danes and
• 21:39
  stuff like that. So yeah, that same thing went
• 21:41
  through Ellis Island and everything.
• 21:43
  So how far in that? Yeah.
• 21:45
  Have you come over and was like a nanny for her brother so.
• 21:49
  Cool. I think mine cleaned or
• 21:51
  something. Yeah, yeah, mine cleaned and
• 21:53
  then worked her way to the West. Nice.
• 21:56
  Yeah, my Nono came from Italy, Manono and Manoni, but they both
• 22:02
  came over like at the turn of the century from Italy.
• 22:06
  And I know Manono only had like $8 in his pocket and he lied to
• 22:10
  his children until we did genealogy and always said that
• 22:14
  he was an only child. And then we found out he was
• 22:16
  like one of eight. As soon as he, I guess when he
• 22:22
  left, he just left the old world behind is basically what it was.
• 22:26
  You know, they did that, though. My grandma from she hated her
• 22:29
  accent. I guess she was embarrassed by
• 22:31
  it. And I was like, oh, now we're
• 22:32
  like celebrating it. I'm like, yeah, my mom went and
• 22:35
  met like her cousins that are still in Sweden.
• 22:37
  She got to go back over and hang out with her because not the
• 22:40
  whole, the whole family didn't make it over.
• 22:42
  So yeah. Yeah, I.
• 22:44
  Always. If I have people over there.
• 22:47
  I do. Here he is.
• 22:48
  I bet you do. I bet you've had extended
• 22:49
  family. Over there I probably do.
• 22:51
  And you know, like generations, the older generations are either
• 22:56
  are lost early and the histories are brought down.
• 23:00
  And so I don't know a whole lot about that side of the family
• 23:04
  other than like I went and found her name on and stuff like that.
• 23:08
  So I yeah, maybe we. Just made it our whole
• 23:11
  personality. That was so great.
• 23:14
  Yeah, Oh, my daddy's side is Scottish, so we made that.
• 23:16
  Our whole personality was like. Heck yeah, we're.
• 23:19
  Going well, we're going next summer for romantic and rare.
• 23:23
  And so we're I'm bringing my kids this time.
• 23:25
  My dad's coming and he's going to go show like where our
• 23:27
  family, we were the Murrays and the Murdochs.
• 23:30
  Cool. So he's gonna go show like where
• 23:32
  our clan was and stuff like that.
• 23:34
  So. Yeah, yeah.
• 23:34
  We just sang to my employee because it's our birthday.
• 23:37
  We sing in Swedish, we sing happy birthday in Swedish.
• 23:40
  And so he just sang to my employee today.
• 23:43
  That's so. Cool.
• 23:44
  Yeah, what you all need to do is he's need to get your ancestry
• 23:48
  DNA and do it. I did mine.
• 23:50
  Now, I always have always told people I'm Italian because my,
• 23:54
  you know, my Nona Manana, you know, we're Italian in my
• 23:57
  family. I'm more than 50% of me is
• 24:00
  Scottish and Irish. I'm more that than anything but
• 24:03
  my but yeah, mine came from the Highlands of Scotland.
• 24:06
  And then my husband, he's Scottish.
• 24:09
  But you can trace them all the way back to Rolo because they
• 24:14
  were part of, they were the black strangers, they called
• 24:17
  them, they were from, from Normandy because the Vikings
• 24:21
  came down, took over Normandy. They left Normandy and went to
• 24:25
  Scotland and that's where they came in.
• 24:27
  So. But we can trace his heritage
• 24:29
  all the way back to Rolo the Vikings.
• 24:32
  Awesome. I know my husband's traced back
• 24:33
  to Ragnar. They must be related then.
• 24:37
  They probably are. And he has everything.
• 24:40
  I'm the peasants like we come from peasants for sure, like
• 24:43
  nothing. And he's like, I'm from Ragnar.
• 24:45
  And on his English side, he has a pirate in his genealogy.
• 24:49
  I'm like you, you're from kings. Get out of here.
• 24:53
  I'm the I'm like the peasant ones that barely made it.
• 24:59
  When I, when I did my husband's, you know, looking at his, you
• 25:02
  know, his family tree and that they, his family fought with
• 25:05
  William Wallace, they fought with, they were all involved
• 25:09
  over there in Scotland. They were all Lords and ladies.
• 25:12
  Right. I know my son, like when we go
• 25:15
  to our castle because we like Blair Castle is like where the
• 25:18
  Murrays and Murdox lived, I guess.
• 25:19
  Like what should we tell them? And I was like, they don't care.
• 25:22
  We left, we left Scotland. They don't like, they'll be
• 25:26
  like, you're not Scottish. Yeah.
• 25:29
  You'll be over there in that area.
• 25:31
  You'll see Seaton College and their Seaton Castle.
• 25:34
  And that was my husband's people.
• 25:36
  It was rebuilt the the whole castle I guess got like it had
• 25:40
  damp well because they fought all the time and they had
• 25:42
  damage. But then they took and they
• 25:44
  rebuilt the entire castle with the stone from the original 1.
• 25:49
  And it actually just sold like not long ago for like $8 million
• 25:54
  something like that. Because they completely revent
• 25:56
  renovated it and like people have weddings and all this.
• 25:58
  But I guess I think now it might be a private residence again.
• 26:02
  But you can see it though. My retirement dream is to buy a
• 26:05
  cottage in the Highlands and live there with my goats.
• 26:08
  Yes, I know I really wanted to go to Edinburgh Romanus Econ,
• 26:14
  but I did tell my husband about it and he can't.
• 26:18
  He didn't say no. Heather, let's do it right?
• 26:23
  And it's during my birthday. In July.
• 26:25
  So yeah. So I'm like, we could make it a
• 26:28
  thing. Yeah, it's I love romance.
• 26:32
  I was already going to rare London and so that's why I'm
• 26:35
  only one day at Romanus. Yeah, they're right.
• 26:40
  So London's on the 17th, so I'm just doing 15th and romantic
• 26:44
  econ and then we're going taking a train to England.
• 26:49
  So love. Your that would be super fun,
• 26:52
  yeah. I've never been to England so
• 26:54
  I'm excited to go see England too.
• 26:56
  See, that's where half of my family is.
• 26:58
  Really. Seriously.
• 26:59
  Yeah, I'm there. So yeah, we have.
• 27:01
  I mean, we have Scottish roots, too.
• 27:03
  Our cousins had, like you said, your family made it their whole
• 27:06
  personality. Like, so my cousins went to
• 27:08
  Scotland and found, like, all the grave sites of our family
• 27:11
  and everything and now. And they wore kilts to my
• 27:13
  wedding. And I absolutely loved it.
• 27:15
  It was awesome. And then but my mom's, so my mom
• 27:20
  came over from England when she was 2.
• 27:21
  So that whole house. So you're like.
• 27:23
  Way close to England then. Yeah, so I have cousins over
• 27:26
  there. We I just got to go see them
• 27:28
  last May and. Tell me all the cool spots to go
• 27:31
  see. Oh, my goodness.
• 27:32
  Yeah, I'll. Maybe I can get you a list from
• 27:34
  my cousin because I've never been around.
• 27:37
  Yeah, you'll love it. I we had such a great time.
• 27:39
  I just wish it could have been longer.
• 27:41
  Of course. Like never.
• 27:42
  I don't know, when I go out of country, I'm just like, it's
• 27:45
  almost like this sounds stupid, but like the roots are calling
• 27:49
  to you. You almost like belong.
• 27:50
  Here yes yeah and that was how it felt for me I was like I feel
• 27:54
  like I should live here because like all my.
• 27:57
  Family and I was like, this is where I belong.
• 27:59
  Yeah, Yeah, I think there that that is like a real, it's a real
• 28:04
  thing for. I'm curious.
• 28:05
  I want to go to Scandinavia to see if it's the same, because
• 28:07
  it's, you know, that's the other half.
• 28:08
  And I'm like, yeah, I want to. Go.
• 28:10
  That's cool. And imagine just like the
• 28:12
  inspiration, like you're already writing from that inspo, but
• 28:16
  like to actually be immersed in it.
• 28:18
  Yeah, yeah. I would like to actually meet
• 28:21
  family members that like, don't know, you know what I mean?
• 28:23
  That'd be cool, yeah. I think you do.
• 28:25
  Ancestry.com you can find them and do your.
• 28:27
  Well, mine got. I did.
• 28:28
  My husband and I did it for Black Friday and he got his
• 28:31
  back. But mine, they're like
• 28:32
  something's wrong, you did it wrong, so I can do it again.
• 28:36
  It takes. Well, if you do ancestry.com and
• 28:40
  then every so often because more technology or whatever happens,
• 28:44
  it goes even deeper. Mine has updated multiple times
• 28:48
  because again, I always told everyone I'm Italian and I know
• 28:53
  my grandma, I know where they came from.
• 28:54
  They came from up in the northern part of in the Tuscan
• 28:57
  area up there in Italy. I know they came from there.
• 29:00
  She came from Torino, He came from Fomaco.
• 29:02
  I know where they came from and I know that I'm related to them,
• 29:06
  that my wasn't that my mom was someone else.
• 29:10
  But but it says 2%. That's all that in my DNA.
• 29:14
  That's. Well, my mom, she thought she
• 29:16
  was mostly like would have more Swedish in her, but she did it.
• 29:20
  And she's like, no, I'm more the Irish and the Scottish and
• 29:23
  stuff, but she's still like, but I'm still Swedish.
• 29:27
  We know you're Swedish. I.
• 29:30
  Love it but now now if you saw my husband and you saw my
• 29:33
  children, you would they're not they don't look anything like me
• 29:36
  and my coloring or anything my. Husband's red hair.
• 29:38
  Oh. Yeah, my husband.
• 29:40
  I'm the only person that tans in my house.
• 29:43
  My husband has red hair, my daughter has long red hair.
• 29:46
  My boys are strawberry blondes, but.
• 29:49
  That's my family. Being.
• 29:50
  Strong Hawaii and my uncle and my cousins are coming and he's
• 29:54
  Hawaiian. And so I'm like, we're going to
• 29:56
  be sitting next to my cousins and they're going to be looking
• 29:59
  all like they're locals. And then there's me who's at
• 30:02
  least my uncle still makes fun because we've been before with
• 30:04
  him and he's like, remember when you turn into a lobster?
• 30:07
  I was like, I do. I actually Remember Me.
• 30:09
  He's like, ready for that again. Yeah, like get out of here.
• 30:14
  It's funny when you're like out, like I have so much sunscreen on
• 30:18
  and I'll still turn red. And it's like my feet and.
• 30:22
  People are like, your shoulders look really like purple.
• 30:25
  I'm like, no, if I go in the water and cool off, it goes
• 30:27
  away. But they're very concerned.
• 30:30
  About me and my son, I'm like I have sunscreen on my kids have
• 30:34
  never been and they're coming. And my daughter the oldest, she
• 30:37
  gets actually like she'll vomit like she'll be get sick and like
• 30:40
  heat and I have warned her I was like, girl, the sun is
• 30:44
  different. They're like it is so close to
• 30:46
  the equator like it's hot. You've got she's like, I want to
• 30:49
  wear a bikini and I was like great, have a swimming suit
• 30:52
  cover, please. I'm like, yeah, this yesterday.
• 30:55
  Well, I told her yesterday because she's just like mom and
• 30:58
  I'm like, fine, I have warned you.
• 30:59
  You were almost 18 years old. I have done my duty.
• 31:02
  You can burn, yes, you will scorch so.
• 31:06
  I was the I have to learn my lesson to understand.
• 31:10
  I have a feeling it's going to be I'm like, what did?
• 31:15
  I say yeah. So I was purple one day and then
• 31:19
  had blisters. And I was like.
• 31:21
  I I told you and I was like, you can do.
• 31:25
  I was a teenager and I was like, I know how to do the tanning.
• 31:30
  Yeah. You see, I burn a little bit
• 31:34
  like the first, like like the first time I really go out, I'll
• 31:37
  have like, I'll get burnt like a little bit on my shoulders after
• 31:40
  that. Then I tan and then I just keep
• 31:41
  getting darker. But I'm not, but I'm not like my
• 31:44
  one cousin, my she has Sicilian in her because her dad has
• 31:47
  Sicilian. She gets so dark.
• 31:50
  When I got married the first time, they had gone to down to
• 31:53
  North Carolina, to the beach and they came back like a few days
• 31:58
  before I was getting married. She was so dark.
• 32:02
  I have never seen her get that tan.
• 32:04
  And like her, her daughter, her son, they were all just, I mean,
• 32:07
  I've never seen people tan like them.
• 32:09
  I'm she, I don't think she's ever burnt a day in her life.
• 32:12
  She's one of those people. I burn and then peel it off and
• 32:15
  then I'm white. Yeah.
• 32:17
  It's my. Husband, that is hilarious.
• 32:23
  But you said two weeks from now you're going to be on that
• 32:25
  beach. I envy you so much.
• 32:27
  Me too. Excited.
• 32:29
  I've never been to Hawaii. It's beautiful, I actually love
• 32:33
  it so much. It's expensive but this is for
• 32:35
  my dad's retirement. So we've been planning this for
• 32:37
  like 7 years and it's like that whole family.
• 32:39
  That's why my aunt and uncle are coming and so like that so.
• 32:41
  It's going to be island. We're doing Oahu for the kids
• 32:44
  because I think they should see like the Polynesian Culture
• 32:46
  Center and Pearl Harbor and things like that.
• 32:48
  And then then we're doing Kauai. That's our favorite item.
• 32:51
  This is like paradise, you know what I mean?
• 32:53
  Are you doing? North or South?
• 32:56
  I don't know, Princess. I forget what it's called.
• 33:00
  The one I that one. It sounds familiar because I've
• 33:03
  been yes, the yes, I know that's not the main like I can't like
• 33:07
  think of the whole Maui. I'm thinking of koi poo and
• 33:09
  that's Maui that we I think is koi poo.
• 33:12
  What I'm thinking of? The South end of Kauai.
• 33:15
  That might be where we're going. OK, that was cool.
• 33:17
  Too familiar? There's.
• 33:19
  A lot of zip lining down there and like cool like like walkways
• 33:24
  like you go up in the trees and do like.
• 33:26
  Why just tell the kids I was like, get ready for the
• 33:27
  chickens. Like there's lots of chickens.
• 33:29
  Yes, there is some Ponchilla chickens there.
• 33:32
  Yes, you're like what? Interesting.
• 33:34
  Yeah, they just grow their wild. Worm.
• 33:36
  They told us last time we were there they had a big storm.
• 33:38
  It broke a lot of chickens out and they've just multiplied, so
• 33:41
  now they have wild chickens. Awesome.
• 33:45
  I, I was watching this, this guy, there are two comedians,
• 33:48
  they're very funny and they have a podcast together.
• 33:52
  And the one he's like very oblivious to things that are
• 33:57
  common knowledge to most people. And he thought that when they
• 34:02
  say like when you get your chicken eggs in that when they
• 34:04
  say free range, he thought that they were just going out and
• 34:08
  finding random wild chickens. I don't know where these wild
• 34:12
  chickens were, but and he thought that's where they were
• 34:14
  just going and finding them and getting their eggs.
• 34:16
  OK. And this is a grown man.
• 34:18
  And that was one of his thoughts.
• 34:19
  That's. Interesting I.
• 34:23
  Don't. They're the same ones they did.
• 34:25
  I don't know if you ever seen the clip, it was they were
• 34:28
  playing Call of Duty together. I was oh.
• 34:35
  My God, you know the the in all the history of Call of Duty, you
• 34:39
  know he remember he was like this wallpaper, so cute.
• 34:42
  I could live here. That's what he said.
• 34:44
  He's like we've got all these gamers and then he's like we're
• 34:46
  the 2 gay guys and like this wallpaper.
• 34:51
  And they were and they both were the female characters.
• 34:54
  So, so. And then they of course died
• 34:56
  immediately. And he said they all screamed
• 34:58
  and he's. I love Matteo, he's and.
• 35:02
  You have to listen to him when he talks about the.
• 35:03
  Eggs. I love Nick.
• 35:07
  He is. He's like, like not no common
• 35:08
  sense. Like he has absolutely no common
• 35:10
  sense but I love him so much. And, and, and it's, it's funny
• 35:15
  because they'll, they'll say stuff and he'll say different
• 35:18
  things. And they're like, like.
• 35:19
  Where do I get this super Italian like he's super?
• 35:22
  Oh yeah, Oh yeah, he is. I, I just love YouTube.
• 35:26
  You girls have to watch them because they're funny.
• 35:28
  They're very funny. They're like best friends and.
• 35:31
  And yes, Nick's always like, I don't look like I'm gay.
• 35:34
  And he's, like, wearing women's clothes and potatoes, like,
• 35:41
  yeah. Oh yeah, You just have to watch
• 35:43
  them because they're, they're hilarious.
• 35:45
  I, I follow them. They're I.
• 35:46
  Love them. They're the great.
• 35:48
  They're the best. I'm like, I love that I knew
• 35:51
  exactly who you were talking about.
• 35:53
  I'm like, I think I know it. It's just got to be Nick.
• 35:57
  And he's and he has a real deep and when you hear his voice and
• 36:00
  stuff because his voice doesn't even match with what you're
• 36:03
  looking at him. Well, he's.
• 36:04
  Mateo calls him Squidward, which I was like, yeah, I see it, I
• 36:07
  can hear it. Yeah, nice.
• 36:10
  Oh my. But girls, you, you just have to
• 36:12
  look them up. It's hilarious.
• 36:13
  Yes, I did my. Way they're great.
• 36:15
  Now, now, my husband, this past Christmas, this is what he got
• 36:20
  me for Christmas. Oh.
• 36:22
  Yay, are you going? Girl, you got a.
• 36:25
  Girl. But I have to make my plans.
• 36:28
  I, I think I'm going to wait when, until or just before your
• 36:33
  new book comes out and then have them all fresh in my mind.
• 36:36
  So when I'm there now, how does this new book, how does it
• 36:40
  relate into this, these three books?
• 36:45
  Is it a continuation or what? Yeah, it's so the ever seas is
• 36:49
  like the ever king and queen are one couple, so that's obviously
• 36:53
  the ever king Eric blood singer and Livia Ferris.
• 36:56
  And then the mis thief will it drifts into another couple.
• 36:58
  So it'll it's one of Livia's friends slash cousins.
• 37:01
  Ish and then a female main character that you meet in the
• 37:05
  ever queen, then stolen crown. So that's just their story and
• 37:09
  then stolen crown will be a new couple, which is again another
• 37:12
  friend of Livia's and Eric Bloodsinger's cousin is Tate
• 37:16
  heart Walker. So yes, so that's kind of how I
• 37:19
  do my series. I like to they're long, but they
• 37:22
  also are broken up into couples so you can technically I even
• 37:25
  asked my editor because she hadn't read the other ones when
• 37:27
  they because we acquired it right.
• 37:29
  It used to be indie and so she hadn't read the other ones, but
• 37:31
  when she started stolen Crown and she she's like, I could I
• 37:34
  read it on my own like so it we it technically could be a stand
• 37:37
  alone. Yeah.
• 37:39
  I recommend you get to know the other characters that are there.
• 37:42
  But yeah, so that's how it fits in.
• 37:45
  It's just there's a little hook at the end of the mis Thief that
• 37:47
  kind of gives you a hint at what's going to happen in the
• 37:49
  Stolen Crown, and it leads in. Yeah, and your.
• 37:54
  Prequel or not, you can. It's like first then the first
• 37:59
  generation series which is the Broken Kingdoms.
• 38:03
  Yes. I'm reading that through.
• 38:05
  I'm on book 6 right now. Yes, and also you've met the
• 38:09
  Alvers, you've met Jonas and Sanders.
• 38:11
  Yes, Harris. Yeah.
• 38:13
  So I'm like caught up now. I feel like to miss thee at
• 38:16
  least. Yeah.
• 38:17
  Yeah, pretty sure that's what it's.
• 38:18
  A lot of people have a lot of opinions how you should read the
• 38:21
  books, but I am just happy however anyone reads the books.
• 38:25
  Yeah. So I mean.
• 38:26
  But what is? But what is the right way?
• 38:28
  LJ tell us. I, I wrote these very
• 38:32
  specifically that you can start with the Everseas because I
• 38:36
  understand I did not know this until I started writing it.
• 38:39
  Nine books is very intimidating to people.
• 38:42
  So I was like, OK, I'll break you in through the Everseas if
• 38:46
  you want. A lot of people like to go the
• 38:47
  Everseas route because they're like, it took the stress out on
• 38:51
  some things because I knew who made it out alive in the broken
• 38:54
  kangaroo. And then there's other people
• 38:56
  who are like, no, no, you have got to know the parents and how
• 39:00
  you get to the Everseas and stuff like that.
• 39:03
  So it's up. I just some like, there's no
• 39:05
  right way in my opinion. Other people will have very much
• 39:08
  stronger opinions, yeah. It just kind of depends on what
• 39:10
  you want your journey to be. Yeah, so I've had someone who
• 39:14
  she's like, I read like the ever King and Queen.
• 39:17
  Then I went back and read books one through 3 of the Broken
• 39:19
  Kingdoms because that's the ever Queen's like mom and dad.
• 39:22
  And then she's like, then I went and did the misstep and then I
• 39:24
  did the five, four through 6. And so then they're now they're
• 39:26
  reading Mira's parents who are 7 through 8 and they're getting
• 39:29
  ready. So book 9, they're no one's.
• 39:31
  Parents, I kind of like that yeah.
• 39:34
  I have my I have my little omnibuses right here yeah.
• 39:38
  And then I got it. Romanos Econ and I like that
• 39:42
  idea though, because that does break up a little.
• 39:44
  Like you said, it is kind of intimidating.
• 39:47
  Yeah, check out. And so and then you're kind of
• 39:50
  like fresh with those characters.
• 39:52
  So that does kind of well. That's what we're doing a read
• 39:54
  along right now. We're in the Eastern Kingdom,
• 39:56
  which is case in mountain, which is 4 through 6 like you're in
• 39:59
  and because we had so much time till stolen crown.
• 40:01
  So I was like. Like, hey, if you want to pass
• 40:03
  the time with us. So yeah, for that reason, like,
• 40:05
  it's nice to kind of see how things go.
• 40:07
  But yeah, I did have a reader who, like, she would go back and
• 40:09
  forth between the series. Yeah.
• 40:11
  I thought that was interesting. I.
• 40:13
  Am trying to cuz I read ever like the ever king and queen I
• 40:19
  want to say in July last year and then recently the misty.
• 40:22
  But I am trying to connect to everyone so I don't know like
• 40:28
  even with that much time in between I'm still trying to be
• 40:31
  like wait was that side character there or not?
• 40:34
  So I don't really. Really.
• 40:35
  You're like, I don't know who's gonna make it.
• 40:37
  Yeah. I was surprised in books one
• 40:41
  through 3. I do have family trees on my
• 40:43
  website if anyone needs help I. Have.
• 40:46
  Good to know like. Math.
• 40:47
  Yeah, there will be deaths written on there.
• 40:49
  They'll be like dead so if you so there could be spoilers.
• 40:54
  I you know, you and Melissa write some really funny like
• 40:59
  glossary or or like you said, like tree tree lines or glossary
• 41:04
  things and even on hers will be like this bitch needed to go.
• 41:09
  Yeah. It's really funny to read those.
• 41:12
  Yeah, like put some. Humor in it, Yeah.
• 41:16
  That's good stuff. I do enjoy Melissa as well.
• 41:18
  I like watching her lives and stuff that she has on we we.
• 41:23
  My Boo. We have.
• 41:26
  We have reached out to her but she's busy.
• 41:29
  We were hoping to have her come join us on this fun time too.
• 41:32
  She's so busy right now, she's like doing so many events, but
• 41:36
  she's coming to the Stolen Crown event.
• 41:37
  Yay, we should go. We should go to Scotland, we
• 41:42
  should go. We have all the things, all the
• 41:46
  things. I need a permanent babysitter,
• 41:48
  yeah. Bring the kids.
• 41:50
  They can't. Well, yeah.
• 41:51
  And bring. The party. 21 and older I do,
• 41:53
  yeah. I'll hire them.
• 41:56
  Have a nanny. Yeah, that'd be great.
• 41:59
  Nanny on site to watch all the kids.
• 42:01
  That'd be cool. You're giving me a brain, baby.
• 42:04
  I got to stop right there. Yeah, LJI have questions.
• 42:10
  Yeah, I have so many questions. OK, so the Ever King and the
• 42:15
  Ever Queen, I mean the ever series.
• 42:17
  So you were obviously indie 1st and and the Broken Kingdoms is
• 42:21
  still technically indie. Yep.
• 42:23
  Yeah. So was there any change?
• 42:26
  So I had gotten the Ever King ink pages edition that I
• 42:29
  absolutely love. Yes.
• 42:32
  And so going from I, I don't think I've ever asked an indie
• 42:35
  author going from like your indie book to traditional
• 42:39
  publishing, is there anything that changed or is it the same?
• 42:43
  Very much the same story. I did do a bonus content though.
• 42:47
  OK, so the ever king, the one that you have is has a full
• 42:51
  story in the back of sea Wells. So his whole back stories in
• 42:55
  there. And then I have more in the ever
• 42:58
  Queen and in the Miss thief. They all have different bonus
• 43:01
  panels. Yeah, I didn't do a full.
• 43:02
  They didn't revamp the story and I didn't.
• 43:06
  See, I've always wondered that because like for any authors
• 43:09
  that are out there, you know, like I'm, I'm wondering
• 43:11
  sometimes, do they make you change things?
• 43:13
  I have had friends who they've added completely new scenes to
• 43:17
  their books and stuff like that. I didn't, they didn't, they
• 43:20
  didn't go down that route with me, which is, yeah, good.
• 43:23
  Because I was like, it's already because well, I think their
• 43:25
  point there was like it's already selling.
• 43:28
  So yeah, yeah, I'm not going to change it because the transition
• 43:32
  for me, what I took down were my physical books.
• 43:34
  They kept the e-book. It was just like went.
• 43:36
  So they did do like a copy edit if that, you know, and they
• 43:41
  found some some weird sentences. We did that, but no scenes.
• 43:47
  And then I just did the bonus material so that it was like,
• 43:50
  this is a slightly different but still the same story.
• 43:54
  And how was that for you? I mean, like, how did that go?
• 43:57
  I I've always been curious. Like, did something reach out to
• 44:01
  you? Well, yeah.
• 44:02
  Or like where? You know what?
• 44:03
  Happened. It was right after, I'll keep
• 44:07
  names out of it and stuff like that, but it was right after The
• 44:10
  Miss Thief released. So it was June of 2024.
• 44:16
  I got an e-mail. We were on vacation as a family
• 44:18
  and it was like, it was a publisher and I was like, Oh my,
• 44:22
  is this real? So I talked to my agent.
• 44:24
  I already had an agent at that point.
• 44:25
  And yeah, it was legitimate. And so we talked, but then I was
• 44:29
  also, I already had the deal with broken souls and bones with
• 44:32
  my publisher. And so you had to loop them.
• 44:35
  And it's like a part of the contracts, right?
• 44:36
  You just, you got to like loop people in.
• 44:38
  And so then I kind of just got into some negotiations from a
• 44:42
  few places. And yeah, that's how it went.
• 44:44
  Ended up with the publisher that was with broken souls and bones.
• 44:47
  And here it goes. Yeah.
• 44:50
  You already had a pub deal with broken.
• 44:53
  Souls and Bones was already in the works with that.
• 44:57
  So what how I started in the trad side was just a new series,
• 45:01
  which is broken souls and bones. And so because I had an offer on
• 45:07
  it was when I was just I hadn't written the ever seas yet and I
• 45:10
  had an offer from a small press to do like publish some whatever
• 45:14
  my next project was, which was going to be the Everest king.
• 45:17
  And so I talked again with my agent.
• 45:19
  She was like, not that deal because it like it wasn't they
• 45:23
  wanted everything. And she was like, and then she
• 45:26
  was like, are you wanting to go trad?
• 45:27
  And I said, oh, be kind of fun to be hybrid.
• 45:29
  So we did a brand new idea, which ended up being the Broken
• 45:34
  Souls and Bones duology. And that was really exciting.
• 45:37
  It went to auction with a few publishers and.
• 45:41
  Yeah, ended up with Ace and Penguin Random House.
• 45:43
  So pretty. It was pretty exciting.
• 45:45
  And then, Yeah, I did not expect one of my indie series to get
• 45:49
  offered on. Yeah.
• 45:51
  And that's scarier. I will be honest.
• 45:53
  Selling one of your indie series is worth, is scarier because you
• 45:56
  have to pull it down and then the royalties no longer go to
• 45:59
  you. Yeah.
• 46:00
  And so it is quite an intimidating thing.
• 46:02
  But the hope is that you get into more readers and more
• 46:05
  spaces and more bookstores because apparently bookstores
• 46:09
  still have a thing against India.
• 46:11
  So yeah, yeah. So that's, that's why you do.
• 46:15
  A lot of people are like, it's a money grab sometimes.
• 46:17
  I'm like, no, actually it was doing fine on its own
• 46:21
  beforehand. So it was like it's more you
• 46:24
  hope that you can have distribution and more
• 46:25
  opportunities open up to you so. Right.
• 46:28
  Been quite quite a journey. Can you have you noticed the
• 46:32
  uptick in readers and sales from?
• 46:36
  Going track, I definitely have found more readers.
• 46:38
  I do feel like it slowed a bit because the stolen Crown has
• 46:41
  been so long. OK, But I see it going back up
• 46:45
  now because we're talking about the stolen crown.
• 46:47
  So I'm hoping. Like I was talking to my friends
• 46:50
  who have done this and they had delays too, and they said that
• 46:52
  they noticed it coming back once they released their delayed
• 46:55
  book. But with the Broken Souls and
• 46:58
  Bones duology, I found a lot of new readers, which was really
• 47:01
  exciting because that was just trad from the beginning.
• 47:05
  So that's been really exciting to have.
• 47:06
  Like the publishers promote you to their built in readership
• 47:10
  that they have too that I didn't have access to before.
• 47:13
  That's really, really cool. There was a huge, I was very
• 47:16
  grateful when book 2 came out for the Broken Souls and Bones.
• 47:19
  Like there was so many more order than the first one.
• 47:22
  So I was like, oh, it's growing. So yeah, that's pretty exciting.
• 47:26
  Yeah, but no, Everseas has been, it's been really fun and to see
• 47:30
  people get excited for it again, like, yeah, I hope, I hope they
• 47:34
  think the wait was worth it. So yes.
• 47:38
  Question for you now, since that'll be book 4, are you going
• 47:41
  to continue that the Eversea series, is it going to continue
• 47:44
  beyond these four books? Yes, they bought 6 books, so no.
• 47:48
  But it will be like one couple, one couple.
• 47:51
  So it's like the Miss Thief. It'll be this couple and then at
• 47:54
  the end of Stolen Crown, you're going to know who the next
• 47:57
  couple is. And are we going to have any
• 48:00
  crossover with Broken Souls and Bones?
• 48:03
  No, they're different worlds. I know.
• 48:05
  I'm like you need to and I'm like portal, I'll open a portal.
• 48:09
  Very different world, but I do invite.
• 48:11
  Like a sea, like a village on the sea and stuff.
• 48:14
  And I was like, oh, is. That like error that's.
• 48:16
  Just. Someone says they're like, Oh,
• 48:17
  my gosh, you should do another one.
• 48:19
  And they're by the ocean. You could go.
• 48:21
  Yeah. It's like the Everseas.
• 48:23
  No, I don't even talk about Faye in that series.
• 48:25
  Actually, though. No, Just like, yeah.
• 48:27
  Norse creatures. Yeah.
• 48:29
  There's no, I don't really think about it.
• 48:30
  Separate. We'll have a surprise where Eric
• 48:32
  shows up. Yeah.
• 48:33
  And they're like, who are you? Yeah.
• 48:36
  So he'll be captured again? Some.
• 48:37
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Goodness.
• 48:41
  I have. Sorry for for new readers of
• 48:44
  yours. Like your website I just have to
• 48:46
  say is so nice and organized. It's like you can go in, you can
• 48:51
  find all the different collections of the series.
• 48:54
  And then for Broken Souls and Bones, Air of Twisted Lies is
• 48:57
  going to be book 2. Of that series yes it's out it
• 49:01
  released and it's done and if I go back I will again do what I
• 49:07
  do it'll be a new couple probably Yep there they.
• 49:11
  Are so is that technically a duology or OK?
• 49:15
  Yep, and like I said, if I ever go back, it would focus on a new
• 49:18
  main male. It might even be considered a
• 49:20
  different series. Honestly.
• 49:21
  I just would do different like characters.
• 49:23
  I'm not sure. But yeah, that's a duology.
• 49:26
  And I had a brain baby that needed to get out to before I
• 49:29
  went back to the world of Stonegate.
• 49:31
  So that's coming in 2027 is a new new series, a new world.
• 49:35
  So yeah. Wait, isn't that nice for you to
• 49:38
  have all the things? In your brain, my dystopian yes.
• 49:41
  Coming out. OK so that makes I was because
• 49:44
  everything's so Norse with us right?
• 49:47
  Like Vikings and Faye are all Norse mythology, so is dystopian
• 49:51
  going to be in a Norse atmosphere?
• 49:55
  It's not. I mean there's so we're.
• 49:57
  Going grow. We're going, yeah.
• 49:59
  Like it's I'm nervous. I like had to get out.
• 50:03
  It's actually like it's not, I don't know how to explain it.
• 50:06
  It's not futuristic, but it is. So it's like in the real world,
• 50:10
  but in the future, like obviously because the world is
• 50:12
  falling apart like post kind of post apocalyptic, but it that's
• 50:17
  not like the main focus. It's just the world set up.
• 50:21
  They don't call it like the same country names, kind of like
• 50:24
  Hunger Games that's 10 M and stuff like that now.
• 50:26
  So it's like a different name, but of course have a nod to it.
• 50:31
  Like there's people who have tattoos that are ruins and stuff
• 50:34
  like that. So there's there's lots of that.
• 50:37
  But as the world grows, so it's like kind of focusing on, I feel
• 50:41
  like when the world falls apart, there's a lot of crime that will
• 50:43
  come up to like give you a place to stay.
• 50:45
  So that's like almost like a crime boss city where it's like
• 50:48
  there's different families, almost like mafia.
• 50:50
  And then there's some eats that are awful.
• 50:53
  But it's about, yeah, they they control through the like.
• 50:57
  So they they hoard like the libraries and stuff like that
• 51:00
  because there is a slight magic system in it though, but I call
• 51:03
  it evolution. So.
• 51:04
  OK, like tech. Yeah, well, it's in their blood.
• 51:07
  So it's like some of the population.
• 51:09
  And the more they know, like the more powerful they are.
• 51:11
  That's why they board the book and stuff.
• 51:13
  So I like it. Yes, it's going to be new and
• 51:16
  exciting and yeah, but yeah, I had to get it out and.
• 51:21
  You said that comes out in 2027. Yeah.
• 51:24
  And. Don't know exactly when.
• 51:26
  Yes. I have.
• 51:28
  All your books are on my TBR list, every single one of them.
• 51:31
  I have a large TBR list, these ones.
• 51:35
  Oh yes. You see, I love a series.
• 51:37
  I love a long series. I love that.
• 51:40
  I love that more than, I mean, I do like standalones.
• 51:42
  I do. I do enjoy that, but I love
• 51:45
  being immersed in a very long series and being in that world
• 51:49
  for a long time. That would be the broken.
• 51:50
  That's what I love, yeah. It's.
• 51:52
  Very. So I'm super excited for that.
• 51:55
  Yeah, well, too, and I'll let you know.
• 51:58
  I'm excited. I'm excited.
• 51:59
  Like I said, this fall, I know that it's on my plants.
• 52:03
  My husband bought them for me for Christmas.
• 52:06
  I have my plants now. Now we were asking, or I asked
• 52:10
  you this question on our little questionnaire, who would you
• 52:14
  have if you had to pick actors and stuff to play the different
• 52:18
  parts of the people that are in your books?
• 52:22
  Why would you give me the list and I've already forgotten their
• 52:24
  names like I would prove it. I would like to do a Google
• 52:28
  search because I was like I don't know I'm the worst I'm.
• 52:31
  Really. Used.
• 52:33
  To you have audiences, Well, you have for Eric, you have Felix.
• 52:39
  Ballard I looked him up. You.
• 52:41
  Have to tell me who he is. He's so cute.
• 52:44
  OK, so he's. In yeah, he's in the Ginny in
• 52:47
  Georgia on Netflix and he I adored him and.
• 52:53
  Looked like him. Yeah.
• 52:54
  He just looked to me because Eric, he changes in my head
• 52:59
  sometimes. I look like when I saw his face,
• 53:01
  I was like, I think that looks like Eric.
• 53:04
  So that's why I chose him. I don't know.
• 53:05
  I don't watch a lot of TV because I like to read.
• 53:08
  Like, no, that sounded bad. I didn't mean like that.
• 53:10
  Like, I just if I have downtime, I read.
• 53:12
  And so that sounded so fun to sin.
• 53:16
  I did not mean it that way. I love a good TV show.
• 53:20
  Yeah. As we all know, with parenting
• 53:23
  and work, it's hard. Yeah.
• 53:26
  Anyway, that's gonna sound like I'm the biggest.
• 53:30
  I. Read.
• 53:32
  Well, and then you said for and then you said for Celine you
• 53:35
  have Zendaya. I love her.
• 53:38
  I love her. God, I love her.
• 53:41
  I love her. She's just so good.
• 53:43
  And if she's the one, that she's with little Tom Holland, right?
• 53:45
  Yes, yeah, we might be like a musical version so that she can
• 53:49
  also sing. She said, oh, I just, she seems
• 53:53
  like I would want to be best friends with her, Yeah.
• 53:55
  For sure. She, when you see her and they
• 53:58
  interview and they talk with her and stuff, she seems like a very
• 54:02
  genuine person, you know, because sometimes you'll see
• 54:07
  people and they interview and stuff like a lot, a lot of these
• 54:10
  Hollywood actors and stuff. And you can tell that they're
• 54:13
  just doing this, you know what I mean?
• 54:15
  And they're just be nice. And then as soon as the thing
• 54:17
  and they're whatever. But she actually seems like a
• 54:19
  true genuine person. I one of my favorite things is
• 54:22
  when she was on at. Well, I guess it was Tom Holland
• 54:25
  and they were on the the what is that show where they lip sing?
• 54:29
  Yeah. And he did the umbrella song by
• 54:31
  Rihanna. Yeah, that was.
• 54:32
  Good. That was so good.
• 54:35
  And she like died. She was like, Oh my God, when he
• 54:37
  came out because because he even had the outfit.
• 54:40
  He had the outfit. And yeah, they, she just seems.
• 54:43
  I just love her. I just think, yeah.
• 54:45
  Very dumb. Yeah.
• 54:46
  Yeah, they both do. Well, they said if they get when
• 54:49
  they get married and all that and if they have children, he
• 54:52
  said he won't be doing any more acting.
• 54:54
  He said he will focus for everything that is him into his
• 54:57
  children and his family. I that's, I think they keep
• 55:00
  their relationship really private too.
• 55:02
  I think that's really smart of them to keep it as.
• 55:05
  Was she? Well, they, well, there were all
• 55:07
  those pictures all over the Internet that they had gotten
• 55:10
  married. Even some of her own family
• 55:12
  thought they were real and they were upset that they didn't
• 55:15
  invite them so. They aren't married.
• 55:17
  I thought they were married. Yeah, there's rumors that they
• 55:20
  are. But no, it's, it's the freaking
• 55:23
  AI things that people are doing and it looks so real.
• 55:26
  And it's like, that's what I hate.
• 55:29
  Yeah, I hate it so much. Yeah, it is just not.
• 55:33
  It's just not cool. It's so hard to tell the
• 55:36
  difference now on some things. Some things are easy, but some
• 55:39
  are not. Yeah.
• 55:40
  But especially like, pictures like that because their pictures
• 55:42
  are everywhere. And so it is so easy to just
• 55:45
  throw a wedding dress on her. Yeah.
• 55:47
  And make it look real. Messed up, yeah.
• 55:50
  Well, they, there was something on Instagram and I seen it, it
• 55:53
  was like something with this like lamp.
• 55:55
  They made this like, you know, with acrylic and stuff.
• 55:57
  And but now with, with your phone, you can take it and if
• 56:01
  you like split screen or your tablet or whatever, you can
• 56:04
  split screen it with like Gemini.
• 56:06
  You can put it on there and have it look at your screen because
• 56:09
  you can select a feature and you can ask it is this real?
• 56:13
  And it will tell you if it's not.
• 56:14
  And it was telling me no, they told me because it's like they,
• 56:17
  they make AI people like they're talking stuff and they're like,
• 56:21
  oh, please watch my video because my stuff's not selling
• 56:24
  those. None of those are real.
• 56:26
  Those are all fake accounts. But yet they look real.
• 56:29
  They look real. And then it what it is, it's T
• 56:32
  MU and a lot of these places they're they're making them so
• 56:35
  that you feel bad and you want to buy this stuff.
• 56:38
  Wow. Isn't that interesting?
• 56:41
  That sucks. It's going to be hard to tell it
• 56:43
  what's real and what's not in the future for sure.
• 56:45
  Yes. And the other thing that was
• 56:46
  funny that like I saw about that, it's like you're feeding
• 56:50
  stuff into like an AI thing to tell you if it's AI, it's like,
• 56:55
  so really you can't win. Yeah, yeah, I think they.
• 56:59
  Told you the truth. Social media is like from my
• 57:02
  before I change it to LJ. Yeah.
• 57:03
  Because they're scanning faces now.
• 57:06
  So I'm like, yeah. I took my kids off, like, for
• 57:08
  many reasons. Not only that, but like, yeah,
• 57:11
  for many reasons. I was like, you know what?
• 57:13
  No, more like we're done. I'm not sharing anything about
• 57:15
  them. I don't want their birthdays out
• 57:17
  there. I don't want anything.
• 57:18
  Oh yeah, Just way too much information.
• 57:21
  It's crazy. Speaking of childhood and such,
• 57:24
  LJD you'd have anything like when you were, let's say high
• 57:27
  school or even before that? Like when I was a kid, it was,
• 57:30
  you know, I was very into the Harry Potter series Twilight.
• 57:33
  I would lock myself away in a room and read it until the book
• 57:36
  was done. Yes.
• 57:38
  What was what was your I mean, what were the books that you
• 57:41
  were into? I want.
• 57:42
  To think, I remember when Harry Potter came out, I was in 6th
• 57:48
  grade and I saw that was the first time I saw it.
• 57:50
  It wasn't. It had been out, but I didn't
• 57:51
  know what it was yet. So yeah, cuz when did it come
• 57:54
  out? 2001 was the movies.
• 57:57
  Yeah, so it wasn't, I was in mid 19. 95 I'm not sure because I
• 58:02
  had gotten the table but I wasn't ready.
• 58:04
  For it, yeah, 4th or 5th grade when it came out, but I saw a
• 58:08
  girl reading it in my class and I was like, I look stupid and I
• 58:11
  didn't read it forever. Then of course, like everyone in
• 58:13
  our generation, I felt like got really hooked into it.
• 58:15
  Twilight, I didn't read till I was engaged.
• 58:17
  Actually, I was like. And that was where my now
• 58:19
  husband that learned real quick how quickly I get absorbed into
• 58:24
  books and I ignore everything. Personality there, Yeah, he
• 58:27
  would sit there. And just like lay beside me and
• 58:30
  I was like, you, OK, like I was just like reading like and I
• 58:33
  wouldn't I just completely ignored.
• 58:34
  And so I got read the Twilight books.
• 58:36
  Another series I I got into. I was a big this is going to
• 58:41
  nerd me out, but I was a huge anamorphs.
• 58:45
  Yes, animals. Animorphs were awesome, yeah.
• 58:49
  They were my guilty pleasures. I love Animorphs and goosebumps.
• 58:54
  Yeah, always. Fun.
• 58:55
  Especially when they had the ones where it was like choose
• 58:58
  your ending basically and you were like.
• 59:00
  Skip. I was obsessed with those books
• 59:03
  and I would read all night long. So it's like a lesser known like
• 59:07
  Animorph series, but I read all of them.
• 59:10
  I had the. Animorphs like I had a poster
• 59:13
  that did like a weird like you turned.
• 59:15
  In it would change, yeah. I would do it again.
• 59:18
  A more thing, yeah. That's awesome.
• 59:20
  I, I was always in the library getting those out.
• 59:23
  I kind of lost reading for a while at like once I was in like
• 59:27
  deep into college. I kind of yeah.
• 59:29
  And I would, I remember I used to be a much more versatile
• 59:33
  genre reader. I would read just about
• 59:35
  anything. So I remember I like loved The
• 59:38
  Da Vinci Code, but then I was reading Memoirs of a Geisha and
• 59:40
  then I was reading Marley and Me.
• 59:42
  And so I'm like, I don't know when I think Holly Black is I
• 59:45
  read The Folk of the Air when I had two kids and I got way back
• 59:50
  into the romanticy side. Yeah, like after I had two kids
• 59:55
  and stuff, cuz I was much more like, oh, I'll just pick up
• 59:57
  anything. Like I remember reading my dad
• 59:59
  gives us a book every year for Christmas.
• 1:00:01
  And so I think that's why I was very, I just would read any
• 1:00:03
  genre. Whatever you got.
• 1:00:05
  Yeah, and like I'm, he got me the help.
• 1:00:07
  I love that book so much. And so it reminds me I'm like I
• 1:00:10
  used to be. I would genre jump all the time.
• 1:00:12
  I don't, I don't genre jump as much anymore.
• 1:00:14
  I kind of stick to romanticy or contemporary romance.
• 1:00:18
  So it's kind of interesting. Yeah, yeah, I have gotten.
• 1:00:21
  Thrillers and. Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  I still like them, but I have definitely jumped more into the
• 1:00:27
  romanticy again. Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  Because it and it's like has blown up these last couple of
• 1:00:33
  years since I've gotten back into reading.
• 1:00:35
  I'm like, Oh my. Gosh, there's like, I do love a
• 1:00:37
  good thriller. My dad is a big thriller guy, so
• 1:00:40
  sometimes he would listen into the books on tape or whatever,
• 1:00:43
  and I would just listen because I was in the car.
• 1:00:44
  And I do think they're still some of the most clever writers.
• 1:00:47
  Oh my God, these mystery writers.
• 1:00:49
  I'm like, you have to be a detective to write these.
• 1:00:51
  Right, they are insane with A twist and.
• 1:00:55
  Yeah, they're so awesome. It's just like not, I don't like
• 1:00:59
  automatically pick them up now, but yeah, I remember.
• 1:01:02
  I do like them though. Yeah, Nancy Drew was like my
• 1:01:05
  thing. Yeah, I.
• 1:01:06
  Forgot about. Yeah, I love Party Boys.
• 1:01:08
  Did you ever read The Party Boys?
• 1:01:10
  Yes. I've bought those for my for my
• 1:01:13
  kids, but they're not. I'm trying so hard to make them
• 1:01:16
  readers. It's.
• 1:01:17
  Me too. Will happen eventually, but
• 1:01:19
  right now they're like Nah no. Literally my job.
• 1:01:22
  Yeah, my job. So yeah, they're.
• 1:01:26
  Tried. I've tried with my kids and now
• 1:01:29
  my oldest. I got him because he likes they
• 1:01:31
  like video games. That's my kids.
• 1:01:34
  But I did buy him the Witcher because he loves the Witcher, he
• 1:01:37
  loves all the video games and that.
• 1:01:38
  So I bought him the entire series, and I know he has read
• 1:01:43
  some of it because he knows things I didn't know.
• 1:01:47
  But has he read the other ones? No, my middle one, no interest.
• 1:01:52
  Well, I can't say that he likes those Five Nights of Freddy's.
• 1:01:56
  He likes to read those. My little one, I still have.
• 1:02:00
  I'm trying. I'm trying.
• 1:02:01
  But they're like their dad, my husband.
• 1:02:03
  They love video games and they like doing that kind of thing.
• 1:02:06
  That is, they're just like him and I'm trying to burn it.
• 1:02:09
  I loved reading Matilda and Roald Dahl and the Boxcar Kids
• 1:02:13
  when I was. They did a new show and I told
• 1:02:16
  my daughter about it and I was like, let's read the Boxcar
• 1:02:19
  Children while you and then you can watch the show.
• 1:02:22
  But you know what? I know how nerdy I am because my
• 1:02:24
  good boys are gamers too. Hence the headset.
• 1:02:28
  I started sitting down there because I call everything
• 1:02:30
  Nintendo. Yeah, and at this point I just
• 1:02:33
  do it to bug him. They're like, Mom, it's an Xbox.
• 1:02:35
  I'm like Nintendo anyway. And I said there, I'm like, so
• 1:02:40
  look at this back story. I'm like, this is a story.
• 1:02:42
  And I go through like how it's like a book.
• 1:02:44
  And actually my son wants to be a game designer.
• 1:02:47
  And so he's just like, oh, I'm like, see, you need to learn how
• 1:02:50
  to tell a story with a game because they all have a back
• 1:02:54
  story. Am I?
• 1:02:55
  Wrong and an objective to get to find more information.
• 1:02:59
  How? Cool.
• 1:02:59
  Reading is. Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Oh, yeah. Because I mean, you take, you
• 1:03:04
  know, well, of course the Witcher was, you know, a book
• 1:03:06
  story, You know, it was, you know, they were books and then
• 1:03:08
  they into a game. And then of course the TV show.
• 1:03:11
  But there's like Horizon 0 Dawn. That was one of the games that
• 1:03:15
  came out a few years ago. And it has such a good story.
• 1:03:19
  And I don't play, I, I have played video games because
• 1:03:22
  that's how I actually met my husband.
• 1:03:23
  I met him playing World of Warcraft, but that was many
• 1:03:27
  moons ago. But I, but I do love my husband.
• 1:03:30
  He plays all the time. He has a PlayStation, he has
• 1:03:32
  Xbox, he has all of those different things.
• 1:03:35
  I will sit and I'll watch him. And it is, it truly is.
• 1:03:37
  They are stories and they have some of them have excellent, you
• 1:03:41
  know, story and back story. And if you ever played the
• 1:03:44
  Witcher, you ever you actually played the game and stuff.
• 1:03:47
  I mean, it is so good. And Geralt gets all the ladies.
• 1:03:50
  Of course he does. But now I got Netflix.
• 1:03:54
  I've only gotten it just recently.
• 1:03:55
  We've never had it. We always have Hulu and stuff
• 1:03:58
  like that. But we got it.
• 1:04:00
  And so I started watching The Witcher and I see what Chelsea
• 1:04:03
  sees. Are.
• 1:04:05
  You Henry is every male main character.
• 1:04:08
  Is for me, I know that's well, that's how it usually is when
• 1:04:10
  you say these movie things. I'm like always Henry.
• 1:04:12
  And I'm like being like, he's aging gracefully, but he's
• 1:04:15
  getting older for these characters.
• 1:04:17
  Yeah, he is like our I'm like age right now for our boyfriend.
• 1:04:23
  Have you seen This is one of my favorite movies of him.
• 1:04:25
  It was the warfare of the and gentlemanly warfare or something
• 1:04:30
  like that. That's new.
• 1:04:31
  Yeah. Go watch.
• 1:04:32
  It OK you know who else I like in that though, is I like hero
• 1:04:37
  for the now he's like the younger yeah, he's he's going to
• 1:04:40
  be getting some of the MMC. Watch that movie.
• 1:04:42
  OK One of my favorite. Saw it, watch it.
• 1:04:45
  Yeah, and there are on the right, like with the right
• 1:04:47
  facial hair, he could even be blood singer to me.
• 1:04:50
  Yes, he's. I thought I put him down for
• 1:04:52
  one. I thought I might have put him
• 1:04:53
  for Tate. I don't remember.
• 1:04:55
  Though I think Rebecca. Has that list I have to.
• 1:04:59
  I have to look on the actual. Main thing down, I think I
• 1:05:02
  actually put him down for one of them.
• 1:05:03
  OK, Henry is also very beautiful in that movie and I.
• 1:05:07
  Always put him as Valen now, which is Livia's dad.
• 1:05:09
  So he's back. OK, OK.
• 1:05:11
  Yes. Daddy.
• 1:05:13
  Daddy, go watch that movie if you want Henry Cavill.
• 1:05:17
  Yeah. And what's the I'm trying to
• 1:05:19
  remember the big guy that just had the whole computer, the
• 1:05:22
  really, really big guy. What's his name?
• 1:05:24
  He's. Bigger than Henry Cavill.
• 1:05:25
  Yes. Take it.
• 1:05:27
  I don't know, but he plays the Dane in it I love.
• 1:05:29
  It Yeah, he's Reacher. Wrestler.
• 1:05:31
  No, he's Reacher. 00. What's his name?
• 1:05:36
  I'm so blanket. I'm looking at it right now.
• 1:05:38
  It's. Very.
• 1:05:39
  Awesome too. Right into the Galaxy.
• 1:05:41
  Right. No.
• 1:05:42
  No guardians. Reacher is OK, so the thing
• 1:05:46
  comes up. Cast.
• 1:05:47
  Here we. Go yes, this.
• 1:05:48
  Guy Alan Richardson. Yeah, he.
• 1:05:52
  All the good men are in that movie.
• 1:05:53
  Yeah, it. Was to watch it a.
• 1:05:55
  Good show. No, he's always been just like
• 1:05:58
  actor. It's a World War 2 movie and
• 1:06:01
  they just barely declassified it in 2026 or 26, and so we didn't
• 1:06:05
  even know this happened. And so it's from World War 2.
• 1:06:07
  It's so good. Well, let me ask you this now,
• 1:06:10
  because you, you did Twilight and stuff.
• 1:06:12
  Now, today, now, looking back at it, like now, do you find
• 1:06:16
  Bella's dad to be more attractive?
• 1:06:18
  Yeah, and. Everything.
• 1:06:19
  Because see, I think he's. I know.
• 1:06:23
  Heather and I talk about this whole time and I send Heather
• 1:06:27
  videos all the time over Instagram because I find all
• 1:06:30
  these goofy things with, you know, this is a this is the skin
• 1:06:33
  of a killer, Bella and I and yeah, I always find Charlie like
• 1:06:37
  that. Movie, you guys delicious.
• 1:06:40
  He's so. Delicious, Charlie.
• 1:06:41
  I love Charlie. Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  See, I've never read the books. I've only watched the movies,
• 1:06:46
  but Heather always tells me that the books are better.
• 1:06:49
  Oh, they are. Well the books are so much
• 1:06:51
  better. The movies were cringe when they
• 1:06:53
  first came out. Oh, wait, no, wait.
• 1:06:56
  Now, do you guys remember Mystery Theater 3000?
• 1:06:59
  Do you remember that on TV? See, you guys are a little bit
• 1:07:01
  younger than me. OK, There's this thing, it used
• 1:07:03
  to be on TV and it was these guys.
• 1:07:05
  And they'd have the movie. The the movie would be playing.
• 1:07:07
  And I don't remember if they were puppets or something or it
• 1:07:09
  was something and they would make fun of movies through the
• 1:07:12
  whole entire thing. Well, they have a thing and I
• 1:07:15
  can't remember what it's called. I'll have to look, but I'm sure
• 1:07:18
  you can find it online. They do it online now and you
• 1:07:21
  can download their version and you can watch Twilight and watch
• 1:07:25
  all the way through with them talking.
• 1:07:27
  And they said it makes it so much better because they make
• 1:07:30
  comments to the whole thing. And I told my husband, I said we
• 1:07:35
  need to watch that. But you just download on your
• 1:07:37
  computer and play it and. It's kind of like that is when
• 1:07:41
  you said that. I think I have seen it like way
• 1:07:43
  back in the day. They have like puppets on the
• 1:07:46
  side of the screen. Right.
• 1:07:47
  And they make fun of, Yeah, they make fun of the movie, The whole
• 1:07:49
  it's. Almost like Saturday Night Live,
• 1:07:51
  like I like, I almost remember it being something like that.
• 1:07:54
  You have it's a, it's movie, Mr. whatever, whatever 3000 or
• 1:07:59
  whatever it was. But it's something similar to
• 1:08:02
  that is the name, but it's the same guys and they're doing this
• 1:08:06
  and they said, you know, these two guys were talking about,
• 1:08:10
  they're like, we're not even affiliated with them.
• 1:08:12
  Nothing. But we have watched it and they
• 1:08:14
  said it has made Twilight so much better.
• 1:08:16
  Yeah, it's funny. So if you decide to watch,
• 1:08:19
  rewatch it. They say to do this, I have to
• 1:08:22
  look and see what it is. I have to remember what it was.
• 1:08:25
  But it's something, it's with them.
• 1:08:26
  But it's something fun. But you were, these are the
• 1:08:28
  people that you told me. You said Michael is it?
• 1:08:32
  It's Ely. How do you pronounce his last
• 1:08:34
  name for Gavin? I look at, I'm like, I just
• 1:08:36
  like, looked people up. So let's see.
• 1:08:39
  We don't pronounce LJ. We don't pronounce anything
• 1:08:41
  correct on you. Yeah, go handsome, right?
• 1:08:46
  He looks so much like how I would see Gavin.
• 1:08:49
  So I was like, and then you have, OK, this is again.
• 1:08:52
  Oh, I love how we were going to pronounce these names.
• 1:08:55
  All right, it's it's Idris. Idris.
• 1:08:58
  Alba. Yeah, that's Seawell.
• 1:09:00
  I knew that one. Yeah, I knew.
• 1:09:02
  He's my Seawell. Yeah.
• 1:09:04
  All right. And then you have Phineas
• 1:09:07
  Tiffin, Tiffin. Hero.
• 1:09:09
  That's hero. OK, OK, yeah.
• 1:09:12
  And then there's Paul Meskel. You have and then you have Anya
• 1:09:17
  Taylor as Joy and you have Isabella.
• 1:09:23
  Her name is Anya Taylor Joy. Oh, OK, yeah.
• 1:09:26
  OK, so that's how it goes. Anya, I have no idea who these
• 1:09:29
  people are. See, you get to a point.
• 1:09:31
  I said this to my husband the other day.
• 1:09:33
  You know, at one time in my life, I knew all the actors and
• 1:09:36
  actresses. I knew all the singers.
• 1:09:39
  And now I'm like, who are these people?
• 1:09:41
  Yeah, Anya, they don't know. Who they?
• 1:09:42
  Are as Scotty who is the female main character in Mis Thief,
• 1:09:46
  that's who I. Would.
• 1:09:47
  OK, got it. OK.
• 1:09:48
  And then you have Isabella, Merced, Merced, Mer.
• 1:09:53
  CED. We again, we don't pronounce
• 1:09:56
  anything. We Heather was talking about a
• 1:09:59
  different book and and she was trying to pronounce.
• 1:10:03
  She was just saying names like Norwegian names.
• 1:10:05
  And it was not. It wasn't even anything though.
• 1:10:09
  Yes, and. And stuff.
• 1:10:14
  And our audio picked it up and had like it had translated what
• 1:10:20
  I was saying and I wasn't even like trying to say an actual
• 1:10:24
  word. I was just talking.
• 1:10:26
  Yeah, the Broncos and Bone series, that was the hard one
• 1:10:28
  because I use a lot of Scandinavian words and that,
• 1:10:31
  yeah. When we do talk about mages I
• 1:10:36
  had seen. So I'm a total noob.
• 1:10:38
  I did not know the authors did these cool collabs with like the
• 1:10:42
  stand alone series and that was my first.
• 1:10:44
  One and my own, well, the only one so far.
• 1:10:46
  Yeah, so. So do you have, are you going to
• 1:10:49
  be doing more of those anytime? Soon I've been asked and I feel
• 1:10:54
  like I kind of wrapped the whole like own family, the story up
• 1:10:59
  and so I don't I have had people be like, I want you to go back
• 1:11:01
  and do more characters. I'm like, but who?
• 1:11:03
  They all got like their Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:06
  Or maybe a different like? Are you definitely open to doing
• 1:11:09
  other ones with other author groups?
• 1:11:12
  Yeah, it just depends on timing. Like it's I thought with Trad it
• 1:11:16
  would go slow me down, which it did because I was at like a
• 1:11:18
  super unhealthy release rate when I was in D and but it's
• 1:11:25
  still very busy. Like it's especially with doing
• 1:11:27
  few books each year, which I know why tried awful.
• 1:11:31
  Well, I know why tried do one now cuz it is like you go back
• 1:11:34
  and forth and you're doing it takes a while, but it's like
• 1:11:36
  you're they're always overlapping a little bit.
• 1:11:38
  So I can see why it's usually 1A year, but I am fortunate and
• 1:11:42
  have two a year. Yeah.
• 1:11:44
  And yeah. So it'd just be time frame and
• 1:11:47
  stuff like that. And like contracts now I can't
• 1:11:49
  have competes like I can't have non competes that I can't like
• 1:11:51
  release certain. Things.
• 1:11:53
  Yeah, so I will be doing novellas though, because I I can
• 1:11:56
  do one indie novella a year, so it's just easy.
• 1:11:59
  They're probably going to be from the Everseas or Broken
• 1:12:01
  Kingdoms or maybe Stonegate and stuff like that from Broken Soul
• 1:12:05
  and Bones. So we'll see.
• 1:12:07
  And how does the characters live in your brain?
• 1:12:10
  Because everybody's different. And so I'd like to know, like,
• 1:12:13
  how does it come to you and what I mean?
• 1:12:15
  Or do you just sit and you write or what is that process?
• 1:12:18
  No. I definitely have a so sometimes
• 1:12:21
  an idea comes to me through the simplest things.
• 1:12:24
  It could be like, I'm very music, like I listen to music
• 1:12:27
  all the time, be a lyric and it just spurs.
• 1:12:30
  That's what happened with the dystopian that's coming up.
• 1:12:33
  It was a lyric and I just was like, OK, I see something in my
• 1:12:36
  head anyway. But I usually I build worlds
• 1:12:41
  through senses first. So I start with smell usually
• 1:12:44
  like what is it smelling like? And then it's all build the word
• 1:12:46
  that way. And then like shadows will pop
• 1:12:47
  in and it's like I'm feeling it with characters.
• 1:12:49
  And then I'll kind of start to just play around with outlining
• 1:12:53
  a character kind of what I want them to be like.
• 1:12:56
  And either they'll take shape or it will shift.
• 1:12:58
  But as I get to know them and I'm pretty like I have their
• 1:13:01
  basic who it's going to be and like what their story is, then I
• 1:13:05
  do personality profiles on the characters until I know them
• 1:13:09
  well enough, usually by the end of the book.
• 1:13:11
  So I'll write not knowing them well and then by the end I know
• 1:13:15
  them. And so that that helps know my
• 1:13:16
  edits. I can go back and like shift and
• 1:13:18
  adjust things to fit their personalities better.
• 1:13:21
  But usually I will know them very well by the time the book
• 1:13:26
  is published. That I can easily, not easily.
• 1:13:28
  It's still hard to write a book, but you know what I mean?
• 1:13:30
  Like I can, this is how they would react.
• 1:13:32
  This is what they're going to say.
• 1:13:33
  Like I get to know them a lot easier that way.
• 1:13:35
  Oh, with like the stolen Crown, I have Broken Kingdoms
• 1:13:38
  characters in it that I've been with for years.
• 1:13:41
  And their scenes are just like, I can just pop that.
• 1:13:43
  I'm like, this is what they're going to say.
• 1:13:45
  Especially like Mira's dad, he's a chatterbox.
• 1:13:47
  And so in his scenes, when he's in there, it's just like these
• 1:13:52
  thick paragraphs of just like, I knew exactly how he would word
• 1:13:56
  things. I knew how he would say things
• 1:13:57
  because I've just known him for a long time.
• 1:13:59
  But where like the female main character who's coming in,
• 1:14:03
  you'll know the end of Stolen Crown for Book 5.
• 1:14:05
  I don't know her that well yet. And so I'm like, yeah, so we'll
• 1:14:09
  get to know her. Now, do you ever use?
• 1:14:12
  Are there any people in like that you know, or that help you
• 1:14:16
  write these characters or are they completely just?
• 1:14:18
  Like real life inspirations. Yeah.
• 1:14:20
  Is there any of that really or do they just live in your bed?
• 1:14:22
  It happens and I just don't really, you know, I'm sure it's
• 1:14:26
  very subconscious because how do we not like we have to do our
• 1:14:29
  lived experiences, right? There's always pieces of me and
• 1:14:32
  my life inside these books, but I think a lot of it comes from
• 1:14:37
  what I would love myself. That's why I'm really big on the
• 1:14:40
  found family. Like, that's why my casts are so
• 1:14:43
  huge in my books, because I think that it's harder now in
• 1:14:48
  our generation and as we're older, especially for women to
• 1:14:50
  like find your, I guess people, you know, that you have.
• 1:14:54
  It's getting harder. And we're all very much in the
• 1:14:57
  thick of raising our families, trying to work and all this
• 1:15:00
  stuff. Yeah.
• 1:15:01
  So I always create these big sound families because I think I
• 1:15:03
  want that. And not that I don't have it,
• 1:15:06
  but do you know what I mean? Like it just like these friend
• 1:15:08
  groups and stuff that are like, I will bury the body for you,
• 1:15:11
  right? So yeah, I don't know.
• 1:15:13
  I just, I guess it probably comes from desire or probably
• 1:15:16
  from people who in my past and my life currently.
• 1:15:19
  So. Yeah.
• 1:15:20
  Yeah, because see, we didn't know each other the three of
• 1:15:22
  yeah, until we met. I met Chelsea and that was it'll
• 1:15:28
  be two years this like was it November, December, something
• 1:15:32
  like that. And and then I met Heather last
• 1:15:35
  year. I have a little a little group
• 1:15:37
  on Instagram that because I had met so many nice people and I'm
• 1:15:41
  like, hey, do you want to we'll have a little chat and all those
• 1:15:45
  people. I think there's like, I think
• 1:15:46
  there's like 20 of us in there and again, none of us knew each
• 1:15:51
  other nothing. And we talked like a little
• 1:15:54
  daily to each other and we found each other.
• 1:15:57
  It's amazing how. About like events and stuff is
• 1:16:00
  they in like book this bookish community as I feel like it
• 1:16:03
  connects people. It does, yes.
• 1:16:06
  Yeah, romanticism is like the first event I've ever gone to
• 1:16:10
  where I felt like I belonged. Yeah, definitely it doesn't.
• 1:16:13
  Matter Like what you're dressed as, what you look like.
• 1:16:16
  That's how I feel at Ren fairs. When I go to a Ren fair I'm like
• 1:16:20
  this is my. Home this.
• 1:16:22
  Is my This is where I belong here and I love that.
• 1:16:24
  I think that's one of my favorite things.
• 1:16:25
  I've always felt like a little different, like in my community
• 1:16:29
  and stuff like that. I'm the tatted, colorful hair
• 1:16:32
  mom who has a witch cottage in her back in Utah.
• 1:16:36
  Yeah, in Utah. Very religious, very religious.
• 1:16:40
  You know, I even and I have multiple piercings and stuff
• 1:16:43
  like that. So it's like, I love the bookish
• 1:16:47
  community. I I've said this before.
• 1:16:49
  Like, you go and you see people who are come from all walks of
• 1:16:53
  life and we all look a little different.
• 1:16:55
  And you feel like if anything happened to you, they'd like
• 1:16:59
  Shank someone for you. Like you don't even know how you
• 1:17:01
  are. You're you're a Booker.
• 1:17:03
  Yeah. We're going down.
• 1:17:04
  Yeah. And so I've said that to my
• 1:17:06
  husband and I was like, you'll just find this community and it
• 1:17:08
  doesn't matter because I get a lot of people.
• 1:17:10
  Then they come to my tables and stuff.
• 1:17:12
  They're like, oh, I'm so weird. I'm like, so am I.
• 1:17:14
  Yeah, we're all weird here. Let's do this.
• 1:17:19
  I actually met, I met a girl in your line when we had come gone
• 1:17:23
  through and and then I like hung out with her because I went
• 1:17:26
  alone this year. I didn't have anybody that yeah,
• 1:17:29
  my husband, oh, my husband came with me, but he just stayed in
• 1:17:31
  the room the whole time. Yeah.
• 1:17:34
  And so he did go to the party with me, but we only stayed for
• 1:17:37
  a little bit. But I met her in your line and
• 1:17:39
  then we went and did like the mask making together and just
• 1:17:43
  did little things. And it's just so cool, like to
• 1:17:46
  find people, people that all love the same kind of things
• 1:17:49
  and. You love it so much.
• 1:17:51
  It's really fun. I mean, Chelsea, you said the
• 1:17:54
  one day, you know you through this little community that we
• 1:17:56
  have found together and all that, that there are people that
• 1:18:00
  we have met through books and that that show up more for you
• 1:18:03
  than the people that you actually know that are in your
• 1:18:07
  actual real life. You know what I mean?
• 1:18:09
  Not not that we're not in our real life, but you know, right
• 1:18:11
  here present with you. And that is such a true, I, I
• 1:18:14
  mean, that is such a true statement because I feel that
• 1:18:17
  every day, yeah. Yeah, like yesterday, my
• 1:18:19
  sister's baby shower. She had so many friends there.
• 1:18:22
  And I'm like, but she's also more outgoing and I'm more of
• 1:18:25
  the introvert that stayed in and read my books.
• 1:18:27
  And so I do have a few girlfriends from high school,
• 1:18:30
  but other than that it's like. I think we're the same person.
• 1:18:33
  I have, like my two really good friends from high school.
• 1:18:35
  We'll meet up maybe every seven months or yeah.
• 1:18:37
  That's. Not even the six months anymore.
• 1:18:39
  And we live within 35 minutes. Oh gosh.
• 1:18:43
  Anyway. And we meet up a little bit and
• 1:18:45
  it's just like, it's great. Whenever we get together, it's
• 1:18:47
  like no time has passed, right? But then I just go back into my
• 1:18:50
  little cave. Yeah, me.
• 1:18:52
  Too. And it's so nice to to have
• 1:18:54
  those friendships because they aren't, you know, they don't
• 1:18:57
  expect, you know. Yeah, a lot, you know, And it's
• 1:18:59
  so great because we have one friend that from high school,
• 1:19:02
  she moved to Texas. And so we really only get
• 1:19:04
  together when she comes to California.
• 1:19:06
  So it's like when when Julia's home, then we're all going to
• 1:19:09
  see each other. Yeah.
• 1:19:10
  Yeah. And hopefully just like that,
• 1:19:12
  it's just like getting back together, like it's not.
• 1:19:14
  Anything so right? But I am so loving and getting
• 1:19:17
  immersed in this community because now all these cons and
• 1:19:20
  and all that, like we can see each other and then we can go
• 1:19:23
  back to our little corners and just talk on the Internet for
• 1:19:26
  the rest of the year. And I think you really do find
• 1:19:29
  people who accept you for who you are, so it's really nice.
• 1:19:32
  Yeah, I do believe that the book community is much more accepting
• 1:19:36
  of people in that. And again, I I think it's right.
• 1:19:39
  I think they should do a romantic econ in Louisville so I
• 1:19:42
  can go to it because I'm not far from the big convention centers
• 1:19:47
  they. Have Orlando.
• 1:19:48
  Yeah, do you? Think I can get my husband to
• 1:19:51
  travel? Alta, are you?
• 1:19:52
  Alta Are you doing Orlando? Yes, Romantic con.
• 1:19:55
  You will always see me. I will have the biggest FOMO if
• 1:19:58
  I don't do romantic con. Yeah.
• 1:20:01
  That's. Awesome.
• 1:20:02
  Yeah, Yeah. So it's, it's been great.
• 1:20:04
  I've loved getting to know people.
• 1:20:06
  And I just like that we, we all connect.
• 1:20:08
  And yeah, a lot of us have the same feelings about big crowds.
• 1:20:12
  Oh my God. Are you a girl?
• 1:20:14
  Are you getting ticketed soon because your line line was
• 1:20:18
  insane? We're so sweet and ass.
• 1:20:21
  I just it's me. I'm the problem.
• 1:20:23
  I I like hate. I feel I would feel so bad if I
• 1:20:28
  couldn't see everybody. I will if it becomes a menace
• 1:20:31
  like it was pretty packed with all of us in.
• 1:20:34
  I mean, it was. Right.
• 1:20:36
  Yeah, well, and it was like in Lai don't were you?
• 1:20:40
  It was LA right then, yeah. So you saw like Melissa's line,
• 1:20:43
  Demi's line, my line, and we were all just like.
• 1:20:47
  We had cuz Melissa's line was like next to yours, so we had
• 1:20:51
  and then Demis, yeah, hers was like the third one.
• 1:20:53
  And so it was just snaked around.
• 1:20:55
  Yeah. We talked in LA with the people
• 1:21:00
  and they're like if you wanna be ticketed.
• 1:21:02
  And I was like, I don't want to be a menace to anybody, but like
• 1:21:06
  I also want to see everybody too.
• 1:21:09
  I am ticketed in Edinburgh for that reason, because I'm only
• 1:21:11
  there for the one day. So yeah, I am.
• 1:21:13
  I am. Well, I saw on Melissa's
• 1:21:15
  Thursday. What day are you?
• 1:21:17
  Thursday yeah we're we both were going to rare so yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:21
  So she did the same thing. But they're so sweet to
• 1:21:23
  accommodate our our demands. That's awesome.
• 1:21:28
  Yeah, cuz that's a newer, that's the newest Romania.
• 1:21:31
  That's the first time they're doing it.
• 1:21:33
  I'll. Get them to do that.
• 1:21:37
  I'm going to London and I was already committed, so I was
• 1:21:42
  like, oh, I don't want to back out but but I'm like I told you,
• 1:21:45
  I have. I'll have FOMO if I don't go.
• 1:21:48
  So I'm like, we're going to that too.
• 1:21:49
  Yeah, so now Romania SICON is only in what, LA and Orlando?
• 1:21:54
  It's just the 2. Places and.
• 1:21:56
  Now. Yeah.
• 1:21:58
  And now Scotland. Yep.
• 1:21:59
  And then then what was the one that was in New York?
• 1:22:03
  That was what book con. That's book con.
• 1:22:05
  And then there was a Polycon. No.
• 1:22:07
  I did not go to a Polycon this year or book con Have a lot.
• 1:22:11
  I just like really want to be with my kids on.
• 1:22:13
  They had competitions and stuff and I like I said, I used to
• 1:22:16
  have a really unhealthy publishing schedule, so I've
• 1:22:18
  really tried to be around when they have events.
• 1:22:21
  A Polycon was right over my daughter's competitions and
• 1:22:25
  stuff like that. So I like, ah, good job, but I
• 1:22:27
  am going to miss Wyla's who Jennifer Armitrout's putting
• 1:22:30
  that on He's. Like Willa's or Wyla Willa,
• 1:22:33
  Willa Collins. Yeah, she's doing that first in
• 1:22:36
  September. It's her first time.
• 1:22:37
  So I I am going to that one so. Yeah, there's always more, and
• 1:22:42
  you have more books coming out, so it's like you will always be
• 1:22:45
  in here, right? It yeah, it just.
• 1:22:48
  Yeah, I just. I hate missing things, right?
• 1:22:50
  So yeah, decided to go to cheer competitions and.
• 1:22:53
  Stay. That's important.
• 1:22:55
  Yes, it is. But yeah, the way that your kids
• 1:22:57
  look at you when you're in the crowd, it makes it.
• 1:22:59
  Yeah, Yep. Yeah.
• 1:23:01
  This. This matters.
• 1:23:02
  Yeah, exactly. Is that your oldest or your
• 1:23:05
  youngest? Daughter, that was my youngest.
• 1:23:06
  Yeah, you. I couldn't catch my oldest
• 1:23:08
  daughter dead in a dance. Hall Yeah, you didn't you think
• 1:23:11
  she's the one that's like a rancher?
• 1:23:13
  Yeah. A.
• 1:23:14
  Ranch girl. Anyway, so.
• 1:23:18
  And then we got the Prince. This.
• 1:23:20
  Yes, Yeah. LJ, are you reading anything
• 1:23:23
  right now? Do you have anything?
• 1:23:25
  Yeah, I'm actually finishing. I'm blurbing, so I'm reading
• 1:23:29
  Helen Schuer's I'm Gonna Say Your Last Name.
• 1:23:32
  I don't. Know what?
• 1:23:33
  We don't say her name right here.
• 1:23:36
  Yeah, no, sure, I'm. Fortunate I got blurb it so
• 1:23:39
  that's really. Awesome.
• 1:23:41
  So is it how? How is it blurb it for us really
• 1:23:46
  quick? How?
• 1:23:46
  Are you not allowed to? I don't.
• 1:23:48
  I only am allowed to, but I hope you guys will order it because
• 1:23:53
  it's very nice. Oh yeah, yeah, we love Helen.
• 1:23:55
  Yeah. Oh yeah, It's on our list.
• 1:23:57
  O2 So is that like a are you, were you kind of like alpha beta
• 1:24:01
  reader or not really? Or is that just where you read
• 1:24:03
  it and then you make up your the blurb?
• 1:24:05
  Publishers will reach out to other authors just to, you know,
• 1:24:08
  like on the backs of books how they'll have like, oh, this is,
• 1:24:10
  yeah, that's what it is. It's pretty close to being
• 1:24:13
  finished. It's probably.
• 1:24:15
  I would say it's getting ready to be like proofread when they
• 1:24:19
  send blurb requests. Out so cool pretty.
• 1:24:22
  Set yeah, I love it yeah, it's been a lot of fun to get some
• 1:24:25
  cool requests so. See, these are all the secret
• 1:24:28
  parts of like publishing and bookmaking that most people like
• 1:24:31
  I'm I'm a newbie. I did not know that that that's
• 1:24:34
  how that. Works, No.
• 1:24:35
  She's a wonderful writer, so it's been really good so far.
• 1:24:38
  It's kind of, but it is hard because I'm like other readers.
• 1:24:41
  I don't want to. You have a cliffhanger.
• 1:24:42
  Yeah. Yes, she is.
• 1:24:45
  Detrimental from read books even with cliffhangers, my love.
• 1:24:48
  It shows authors you're interested, you know?
• 1:24:51
  Yeah. No, we love her.
• 1:24:54
  But Heather and I, we never pronounce her last name.
• 1:24:57
  We always we say. Shimmer Shimmer worm.
• 1:25:01
  Yeah, hard time pronouncing things too.
• 1:25:04
  But yeah, I have all her books. I have, I loved Blood and Steel.
• 1:25:08
  I love that. I, I read the, the standalone
• 1:25:11
  that she had the with that. And I always say read that as
• 1:25:15
  the book 3 and then read books four and five or three and four.
• 1:25:19
  I love that. And then I also have her ashes
• 1:25:21
  at Thesmar. I have them, they're on my
• 1:25:23
  bookshelf. I haven't read them yet but I I
• 1:25:26
  love how she writes as well. Yeah.
• 1:25:28
  She's she's really good. It's really unique.
• 1:25:30
  I love it, so it's really great. I think her book comes out.
• 1:25:33
  When does that book come out that that you're doing the
• 1:25:36
  blurb? I think it's September, I
• 1:25:38
  thought for. Quarter 3 is quite amazing,
• 1:25:42
  Quarter three and quarter four has a lot of amazing books are
• 1:25:45
  coming out, Yeah. Be a big one.
• 1:25:47
  Romantic. Yeah, I'm.
• 1:25:49
  Going to FOMO for not buying a ticket to Orlando now.
• 1:25:56
  Yeah I should do it. Just like, hey husband leaving
• 1:25:59
  for the weekend, here's the kids.
• 1:26:02
  I'm doing it. I see.
• 1:26:03
  I booked. So I really love TL Swan
• 1:26:07
  Contemporary and and she is going to be in Oregon.
• 1:26:11
  My brother lives in Oregon. So a month ago I booked the
• 1:26:14
  tickets and I'm going this next weekend and I feel so guilty now
• 1:26:17
  because I'm like, I have to work all week and then I'm going to
• 1:26:20
  be gone and I'm not going to see the kids.
• 1:26:22
  But I know that once I get there, I'm going to be totally
• 1:26:24
  fine. Oh, for sure, yeah.
• 1:26:27
  But right now I feel guilty. Yeah.
• 1:26:30
  That sounds. I think you're going to have a
• 1:26:31
  lot of fun, Yeah, when you go. Speaking of, is it in Portland?
• 1:26:35
  Yeah, yeah, it's just South of Portland.
• 1:26:38
  Rebecca, do you want to do your quick trope trials with her?
• 1:26:40
  Real quick, Oh trope. Trials.
• 1:26:41
  Oh yeah, Now these are. These are.
• 1:26:43
  Quicker for LJ to be this is. Quick.
• 1:26:46
  One game now this is This is Trope Trials.
• 1:26:49
  Now it's either a scream or a dream.
• 1:26:53
  Scream is bad. Dream is good.
• 1:26:56
  OK, all right, so now. Touch.
• 1:26:58
  I don't I don't yuck on people's young.
• 1:27:02
  OK, my friend died. Touch her, touch her and you die
• 1:27:07
  with a sour, a sword or an axe to the throat.
• 1:27:11
  Which is better first? I still think touch her and die
• 1:27:15
  if they act on it. I don't want them just saying
• 1:27:18
  it. I like it.
• 1:27:20
  Yeah. All right, all right, now, who
• 1:27:23
  did this to you? Is that still a classic, or is
• 1:27:26
  that ready to go to the grave? Again, I love it if they act on
• 1:27:30
  it, they build on this question and be like, I wish I wouldn't
• 1:27:35
  have done that to you. No, they're dead.
• 1:27:38
  Like I'm going to give them bone jewelry.
• 1:27:41
  Yes, you will have a necklace of their bones.
• 1:27:43
  AKA Eric blood Singer, it doesn't count.
• 1:27:47
  Like you can't just throw it in there and then it never being
• 1:27:50
  revisited like it. He needs to revenge, revenge,
• 1:27:54
  revenge. Action Yes.
• 1:27:57
  We're all about villains. Then it's superior.
• 1:28:00
  Now they don't need to say it in a book.
• 1:28:02
  They really don't need to say the line for me.
• 1:28:04
  Need to do the ACT, yes, yeah, yeah, Yep.
• 1:28:08
  Now in Enemies to Lovers, slow burn versus a forest fire.
• 1:28:13
  I think I am a slow burn, but I think my slow burns are faster
• 1:28:16
  than some slow burn readers. Like some people are like by
• 1:28:19
  book three they can kiss. I'm like, no, no, they need to
• 1:28:21
  kiss. Like you got to kiss in book
• 1:28:23
  while like I got to do something.
• 1:28:25
  Give us a little. Yeah, you got to give me a
• 1:28:27
  little touch. I've learned from talking to
• 1:28:31
  other readers. I think I'm like, my slow burn
• 1:28:33
  is not their slow burn. The slowest slow burn I've read
• 1:28:37
  is PED Cole in her ever flame series.
• 1:28:39
  That one drives the nuts. Fabulous.
• 1:28:44
  Yeah, yeah. Oh.
• 1:28:47
  Man, now this one here. Now would it be would you prefer
• 1:28:50
  to have a pirate captain with the heart of gold or a Viking
• 1:28:54
  king with a heart of ice? Like, OK, yeah, love, this is me
• 1:29:00
  grumpy characters who are icy to accept to her, like to their
• 1:29:05
  love interest. She has to have the heart of
• 1:29:06
  gold to her, even if it's a little dark.
• 1:29:09
  Yeah, so see, I love. That I don't.
• 1:29:11
  Know, I love a good pirate, but I love a good Viking.
• 1:29:13
  That was not fair. Yeah, yeah, be a grump.
• 1:29:20
  Everyone but her. Yeah, how?
• 1:29:23
  This is the last one now villains gets the girl versus a
• 1:29:27
  good guy that turns into a villain to save her.
• 1:29:32
  That's hard, Yeah, because it's fun to see their dark sides come
• 1:29:36
  out, for sure. But I do love a good villain
• 1:29:39
  from the beginning where he just like, look, this is me, I'm
• 1:29:41
  going to love you and I'm also going to burn everybody.
• 1:29:44
  Right. Yeah, I'm not changing.
• 1:29:46
  I do. Love a villain gets the girl,
• 1:29:48
  probably gets the girl. Yeah, I am deep, deep in my
• 1:29:52
  villain era. That is where I'm at.
• 1:29:54
  Everything I am, for me, everything is spicy.
• 1:29:58
  I I do not do the fade to black kind of thing.
• 1:30:02
  And I am romanticy, dark fantasy, dark romance.
• 1:30:05
  That is my wheelhouse. That is who I am.
• 1:30:08
  But oh, I'm so dark, deep in that villain era.
• 1:30:12
  Now. If have you ever read the The
• 1:30:13
  Plated Prisoner series by Raven Kennedy?
• 1:30:16
  Oh, you have not read that yet? I know it's what you're talking
• 1:30:18
  about. Now if you if you ever get the
• 1:30:21
  chance to the main male character is my husband.
• 1:30:25
  Yeah. I know and actually my husband
• 1:30:27
  in real life. The thing is, I honestly, I
• 1:30:30
  think you'll hear this from a lot of romanticity authors.
• 1:30:32
  When we're done writing a book, we tend to drift out.
• 1:30:34
  Like I will go more contemporary dark romance, then I will stick
• 1:30:38
  to romanticity. So I it's been interesting.
• 1:30:40
  I actually leave my genre for a bit, so I haven't read a lot of
• 1:30:44
  popular pop. Yeah.
• 1:30:46
  Yeah, and I mean also. This makes sense, yeah.
• 1:30:48
  Character is yelling at you in your head.
• 1:30:50
  I imagine that being in that world so much is hard.
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  Yeah, I'm a mafia reader. I love a good mafia.
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  That's yeah. I mean, that does make sense,
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  though. I mean, you know, if you are in
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  those worlds all the time, it is.
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  It's nice to have like a break from that.
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  Yeah, I've found. Blurbs are the ones where I go
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  back to romanticism when I'm blurbing.
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  It so I've got some LJ Shen mafias that I haven't read quite
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  yet, but I'm excited. I just, I loved her.
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  Vicious. Yeah, I love that on my shelf.
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  I just need to reconsider. Mafia.
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  But I did love it. Yeah, he's very morally Gray and
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  a big jerk, and I was like, but I love him.
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  Yeah, of course. But Daddy.
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  I love him. He's like awful.
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  And I'm like, why do I like you? I myself, I will always take a
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  morally Gray man over like a golden retriever kind of guy any
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  day in my books. Yeah, he's he was a, he was a
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  butt head, but I like it. Now, before we let you go and go
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  back to the Everseas, will you tell everybody where they can
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  find your books, how to follow you so that they can, you know,
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  get all the stolen crown information and all that good
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  stuff? So you can find my books
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  anywhere books are sold. I know you probably hear that a
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  lot, but it's true. I if you want my indie books,
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  special editions, you can get those on my website.
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  Those would just be the Broken Kingdoms series and my Of
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  Mischief and Mages book. And then my novellas are on.
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  I can sell those. I do not sell the traditional
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  books obviously. And then follow me on Instagram.
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  It's like author LJ Andrews is my head tag except on Tiktok
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  it's LJ Andrews author so. Switch that up, yeah.
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  And or you can join me in my Wicked Darlings Facebook group.
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  That's where. Oh my readers, hang out.
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  So that's good to know. Nice and new Facebook.
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  I'll invite you, child. Yeah.
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  OK, good. You'll.
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  See, you'll see I'm pretty active there, but I'm also very
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  active on Instagram. Probably those are the two that
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  I'm most active on. So awesome.
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