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Elon Musk Opinion About ASSASSINATION Attempts Of Donald Trump!!! · Elon Musk Thinking

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  Okay, can we start with first question. One of the things that I
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  absolutely loved when I was reading a bit about your bio is that you have
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  this insatiable love for books and reading. One of the things that I've been
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  struggling with as a parent is to try to get my children to get off
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  all the devices and to somehow foster in them a love of reading. Do
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  you have any advice for me or is it a losing battle? Yeah?
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  I well, it is hard for books to compete with the much greater stimulus
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  of things online. You know, it's I mean the computer at this point
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  op tuned to maximum olymbic and cortical resonance. So it's it's very difficult for
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  books to compete. I think you got to probably just have some no devices
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  time, and so your only choice is read a book. Right. Do
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  you what's your regimen of reading? I mean, are you as voracious today
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  as you were in your early it? Y? Is? I mean do
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  you sort of etch out an hour or two a day? You know,
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  I've got to get in my reading or how does it work for you?
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  No, it's really if there's something interesting to read, I'll usual to read
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  it. It's pretty at high speed, and I find it actually is helpful
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  to have a book read to you to go to sleep, so as a
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  way to sort of, you know, take your mind of Familion problems at
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  the end of the day and help you go to sleep. Is is have
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  the book as an audiobook and have it read to you. And my apologies
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  for apparently causing you nightmares and for my book, I mean it was The
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  Pathetic Mind as very good book. It recommended to everyone. In fact,
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  I did recommend it to everyone, yes, but it is it really does
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  hit the nail on the head with respect to the sort of fork mind virus
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  that is damaging civilization. When did you first? I mean, so I'll
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  first answer my question that I'll turn it to you. So I first noticed
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  all of these mind viruses in my academic work when I was trying to introduce,
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  you know, evolutionary psychology and evolutionary biology in the business school so that
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  people can you know, have a greater explanation of why people do the things
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  that they do. And most of my social science colleagues were so dead set
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  against you in biology to explain human phenomena. So that was my original sort
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  of aha moment. We have a problem. When was it for you that
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  you noticed that something was wrong? Well, I guess if you go back
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  and say, when did you see the first science? I mean I could
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  you could arguably say it was even twenty years ago. But when did it
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  become much more severe? I'd say about five years ago, coming in in
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  the climate, just before COVID. And if that COVID, I think is
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  part of the you know, the degree of panic over COVID was exacerbated by
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  this unwilling unwillingness to question science or question the accepted view and simply be spoon
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  fed things from the government and and and also to shut down descent and shut
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  down any questioning of the narrative. So this is because that's really part of
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  past. Like for for for any given sort of virus were or you know,
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  mental or or digital, it has to have defenses otherwise that virus won't
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  survive. So one of the defenses of the work envirus is to shut down
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  any questioning exactly. That's I mean, it's interesting that you say this because
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  I was recently asked on a show. It was hosted by a British psychiatrist,
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  and he asked me elon what of all your years as an academic,
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  as a behavioral scientist, what has been the singular phenomenon that has surprised you
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  the most about humans? And it's and my answer is going to speak to
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  what we're talking about here. And so I thought about it for a minute
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  and I thought, Okay, Well, probably what surprises me the most is
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  people's inability to change their anchored position once it is deeply anchored. Despite the
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  fact that I might build you a huge normological network of few moulative evidence to
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  show you that my position might be vertical, there's no way to sway you.
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  So the question that I had asked you is what someone asked me,
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  what has surprised me the most over my thirty years as an academic? And
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  my answer was the inability of people to change their minds despite the fact that
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  you might give them, you know, an un as sale tsunami of evidence.
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  They just call la la la. I don't want to hear it.
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  What has been in all of your career, what has been the singular,
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  you know, human phenomenon that has surprised you the most about humans? Well,
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  that's probably a long list. There also surprising the most. I mean,
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  maybe I would share some of you to you, which is that we're
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  humans once they take a position, even when presented with an overwhelming amount of
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  evidence that you know, oomize the position, nonetheless hold on to that position.
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  I found I find to be just not a shrink because I aspire to
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  change my opinion if presented with new facts. But this is a turns out
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  to be a very unusual thing. So and in a sense, I mean,
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  it's disheartening, right, because you'd like to think that, you know,
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  we're all pursuing truth, and certainly academics should be. And yet what
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  I've regrettably found in my career is that, you know, academics are some
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  of the biggest ideologues around, right. I mean, as you know,
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  having you know, read my book, you know, all of these parasitic
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  ideas originated from you know, the university ecosystem. So do we can we
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  be optimistic that we could turn this thing around elon or is it are we
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  just screaming in the wind? Well? I think we have to be optimistic.
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  I agree with My general philosophy is that it's better better to be to
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  or on the side of being optimistic and wrong than pessimistic and right. Right,
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  you know, if you're going to pick one or two, I mean,
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  you don't want to be irrational about it. But if he has porderline,
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  better to freaking optimistic and wrong. So I think, and I guess
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  if you were to compare present day how many times people change their mind,
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  it's probably much better than the past because people are des exposed to a wide
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  range of information, so there's probably more changing of minds and changing of opinions
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  than ever before in history. It's just nonetheless astonishing how resilient people are in
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  holding on to a wrong opinion. So it's it's it's sort of truth versus
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  tribalism. I think. You know, there's a there's a great book that
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  I briefly cite in the Parasitic Mind. It's by two French cognitive psychologists,
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  and what they argued elon is that the human mind did not evolve to seek
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  some objective truth, but rather it evolved to win arguments. So that's the
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  point about tribalism, right, Because here I am in my sort of lofty
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  ivory tower, thinking, hey, if I present you with enough information,
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  I hopefully change your opinion. But the reality is you don't want to listen
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  to it because you just want to be on the winning team. Yeah.
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  A lot of times it's people will hold an opinion because that's what they're They
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  see themselves as being on a particular team, like in a particular political party
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  or social point of view, and they just regarded as the team winning the
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  argument as opposed to truth winning the argument. And that seems seems to be
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  awolmingly the case, got you can, we can? We can? We
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  still go on for a while. It seems like the let's be going Yeah,
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  I was. I made the mistake of exploring some some rare features which
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  I guess a lot of people haven't then stepped on some landmind, so i'll
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  I will refrain from testing obscure features through while got you okay? So what
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  would be I mean? This question is is really stemming from my latest book
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  where I was talking about, you know, happiness and the way that I
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  wrote this book. Elon, if you would have asked me three years ago
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  after Parasitic Mind, would I ever dare write about write a book on happiness?
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  I would have never said yes, But a lot of people kept writing
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  to me saying, hey, what's your secrets? You always seem to be
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  playful and joking around and you know, Exrofest and so on. What's your
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  secret to life? And so I decided to write a book. And in
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  the book, I basically, you know, I'm talking about what are some
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  of the grand goals that shape you know, when I wake up in the
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  morning and rub my hands together in gleeful anticipation of the day, there are
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  certain things that shape my day to day. What would it be for you?
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  What what is it that makes Elon Musk wake up, rub his hands
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  and say, oh boy, I'm excited to be alive gold just kidding.
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  I'm thinking of screws McDuck and going for a swimming the money then the money
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  even have go But but I don't get they should do more and they should
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  do a movie on screws to bick tech. But I'm excited by solving problems.
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  So you know, if those problems that I think are important and useful,
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  you know, I get excited by the progression of civilization. So if
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  we learn more things, we advanced civilization become more capable, that's cool.
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  I mean, we're you know, full SpaceX. You know, it's about
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  advancing rocket technology and spacecraft technology and space based communications. And then for TESLA,
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  it's about advancing sustainable energy electric vehicles battery packs that can be paired with
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  sola and wind, so sort of advancing sustainable energy economy. And then also
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  advancing autonomy enabling the car drive to drive itself so people do not have to
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  soften through the tedium of driving their car all the time. And also cars
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  can then have probably five times amount of utilization but they currently do, instead
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  of just sitting in parking lots all day, you know. And then this
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  is a neural link which is somewhat esoteric, but long term trying to improve
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  the data rate between humans and machines so you can have better achiever a symbiosis.
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  And then the short term help people who have brain or spine injuries.
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  And then boring companies dating tunnels to alleviate traffic. And the XAI is trying
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  to make a maximumly truth seeking AI, which I think is extremely important.
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  And you know, I think a lot of people like, why do you
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  need such a thing? Surely the other ones that you true seeking. I'm
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  like, have you seen Gemini? It's like if you look, it can't
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  produce a picture, Like I mean, it should be people should be quite
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  concerned about stuff what they see in Gemini and Chat GVT, Like Chat GVT
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  is better at hiding it. But still it's kind of good that Google overplayed
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  their hand there with Gemini where the you know, the diversity, I mean,
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  they must have just beaten that AI with a stick. So odd because
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  such that like nothing you do can can get it to produce a picture of
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  a pope who's a white guy. Well, did you see? Did you
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  see? I actually satirical set of means where I asked it what does Elon
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  must look like? And it gave me don lemon? This was before you
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  are you seriously? Well I thought that was a joke. It wasn't joke.
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  It wasn't jo It was a joke, Okay. I was like,
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  but it's at this point I can't talk parody of reality because if you like,
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  show a picture of George Washington and George Washington is a black woman,
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  I'm like, what the hell? This is like actual historical figure you know,
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  and you know and and and it's and it's just crazy things like where
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  you say, like is it which one is worse? You know, global
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  tem nuclear warfare or misgendering Caitlyn Jenner and and even Caitlyn Jenna says definitely misgender
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  me. Kitlyn Wade in and said, definitely misgender me. That's not crazy.
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  And but the you know, Gemini is like saying, oh, you
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  know, you should not misgender it's nuclear what was better? I'm like,
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  okay, think about that now. If this isn't all powerful, AI that
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  somehow it is capable of manipulating world, whereas that we don't understand and and
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  might ultimately be our digital god. You have to be careful what you program
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  into this thing, because it might take the you what seemed like sort of
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  silly guffs right now. But if it's got that as as a sort of
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  an output function, as utility function, it might say, Okay, you
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  know what, there's too many whatever white guys in the world. Let's kill
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  half of them. It's like, it's not just fiction at that point,
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  and basically it's it's going to be leading to some pretty dangerous and bizarre outcomes,
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  and it could it could actually like, if it's been taught like that
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  misgendering is worse than nuclear war, it may decide that to avoid misgendering,
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  it should start a nuclear war. Like the so far away. To stop
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  any future misgendering is to kill all humans, right, exact exactly, problem
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  problem solved, no more misgendering. So you listed all of these incredible initiatives
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  that you've done, and when you first purchased Twitter, I had produced a
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  short clip where I said that, in my view, your purchase of Twitter
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  will go down historically as the most important of all of your great initiatives.
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  Do you feel that what was was that right calculating on my part or or
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  was I overstating the case? Well, you might be right. It's possible
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  that it's possible that you're right. I mean, I didn't do the purchase
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  because I thought it was a great way to make money, or because you
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  know, I thought it would improve my quality of living, because frankly,
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  I knew that I would be you know, there would be a bazillion slings
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  and arrows coming in my direction because the mind virus and various other sort of
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  falsities are not going to take it lying down, and I could just end
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  up being killed by some crazy person. You know, that is an effective
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  arm of the mind virus. So it really I couldn't quite put my finger
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  on it. But it really felt like if like there was a civilizational danger
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  that unless unless one of the major online platforms broke ranks, then yeah,
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  because they were all just in behaving in lockstep along with the legacy media,
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  just everyone saying the same thing, and so there's like literally it was just
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  no place to actually get with a sur it was almost impossible. So everything
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  was just getting censored. Like the power of the censorship oparatus was incredible.
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  Oh don't I know it? I mean I always had to. I mean
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  I'm not someone who really walks on eggshells, but I knew that there were
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  certain things that would get me banned. So for example, at one point,
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  I don't know if you know Matt Do you know Matt Ridley? You
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  know what that is? I don't think so, possibly, but I don't
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  know. Matt Ridley is a popular who is also he was in the House
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  of Lords in England and he's a evolutionary biologist by training, and at one
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  point he came out with a book with a co op about two years ago
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  where he was arguing for the lob league theory for COVID, and his people
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  had reached out to me and said, hey, you know, Matt would
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  love to come on your show and chat about this, and so I responded,
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  and I almost felt ashamed that I was saying. I said, Look,
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  I'm always happy to speak to anyone. I hardly shy away from conversations.
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  But you should know that the minute that we actually put up the chat
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  on YouTube, not only is it going to be taken down, probably my
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  channel is going to be deleted. And so speaking, there was no point
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  in us having that conversation. Until today, I feel horrible at the fact
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  that I actually had to go through that calculus. Taking over X no longer
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  causes me to have to make those kinds of machinations. Are there, Oh
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  we've lost Elon? Okay, are you back Elon? Yeah? So suddenly
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  helpful as it means you hear me now I assume, Oh yeah, yeah,
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  I hear you. Okay, great, No, sorry, I was
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  just walking around the house and I think it dropped the connection for reason.
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  But this is definitely reminded that if the connection has dropped, the moment that
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  someone rejoins it should rejoin in the prior status unless they were exited by the
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  host, unless the host kick them out, they should re enter in the
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  same status as before. So in addition to us having a fun conversation,
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  you're getting some technological benefits out of this. That's correct, I win,
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  Yes, I got it to try to do you know two birds with one
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  stone or three birds with one stone? You know, basically get that,
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  get the whole flock. Actually, we do a few more questions and then
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  truefully you you iron out the kinks, and then we could have around two
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  whenever you think it's ready, hopefully in the near future. Yes, sounds
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  good. Okay, So next question. I often get asked this. You
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  know, I'm housed in a business school, and so I'm asked things like,
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  yeah, that's strange. Yeah, So do you know the old nature
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  nurture question? You know, is leadership nature or nurture? So obviously you're
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  you're definitely the top entrepreneur in the world. Do you think much of your
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  entrepreneurial bent is nature or nurture? How would you answer such your question?
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  Well, I think if somebody's going to be, you know, at among
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  the world's best in any field, it's going to require both. So you
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  know, if you say, whether it's like basketball or an acas, sports
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  or something like that, or academics, then you're really going to require some
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  combination of nature nurture, and it's all amount of luck. You know,
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  there's sort of a randomness element to it. I can see the randomness because
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  I've got a twin study in among my kids where I've got identical fraternal twins
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  and identical twins, right, and even among the identical twins which really had
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  obviously the same genetics and the same upbringing, they were living in the same
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  room literally, and yet they've they have diverged in interesting ways. And now
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  admittedly it didn't like not radically different, but you know, one pursued physics
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  and the other one pursued computer science, not radically different. The single biggest
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  difference I was saying is one of them decided to be vegetarian when he was
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  about seven or eight, and the one one of them didn't. And so
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  the difference is about two inches in height, and like the twe that was
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  not a vegetarian is way bigger. So there's like, okay, you know,
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  like quite it was a really big difference. But so there's there's a
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  randomness element where just luck or fate or whatever it plays perhaps a bigger role
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  than it may seem but you didn't need to be born for any particular to
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  excel in any field with a good hand of cars. And then and then
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  it's that talent nurtured, you know, through the circumstances of life. And
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  then you know some amount of luck is to be there too. And in
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  fact, you know, I read I read a lot of sort of superhero
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  comics when I was a kid, and ultimately, you know, concluded that
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  like, what is the best power? The best power is luck. You
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  can't be luck, right, But what what would be some of the traits
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  that you were born with that? So, for example, there are some
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  studies that show that people who score high on entrepreneurial proclivity tend to have greater
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  basal testosterone because testosterone correlates with risk taking, and to the extent that entrepreneurship
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  involves an element of risk taking that you could see the link. So what
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  what what is part of this too that you were born with that allowed you
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  to be as successful as you are. So basically, so you mustn't just
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  have metaphorically huge bulls, you must have actually huge bulls. Good, I
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  think that's saying. So if you just how big are your bulls physically well,
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  decide how bing your bulls are metaphorically as well. Indeed, indeed,
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  that's that's called now blonde max. By the way, elon these these nuts.
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  By the way, here's the study speaking of testicles. You ready,
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  so you're gonna like this, Get ready, fasten your seat belt. So
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  if you do a correlation between across primates between the size of the testicles of
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  the males of a species as a function of their size, you know what
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  it correlates with. It correlates with female promise in that species. So,
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  for example, so mountain gorilla usually have a polygenist mating system, meaning one
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  dominant male monopolizes sexual access to many females. Well, mountain gorillas, even
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  though they're formidable in size, they actually have very small testicles. On the
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  other hand, exactly whereas chimpanzees elon, are walking testicles because they're just having
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  sex all the time, and so there is massive opportunity for sperm wars.
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  And so this is the ultimate feminist theory because it basically argues that the size
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  of the testes of the males of a species are an adaptive response to female
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  sexual behavior in that species. Mic drop, no wow, microp we need
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  we need a micdrop icon or something like that. We'll added that to the
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  emoticons here. All right, a couple more questions you and I have discussed
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  privately. I'm going to say the acronym, and then I want to explain
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  it to the people who don't get it. You've stated, I don't know
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  if it was serious or facetiously that you'd like to start a TITS and ASS
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  institution. Well, actually no, I think I can explain that. So
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  so for rohile I I was wondering, well, you know, Massachusetts has
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  MI T and California has you know, California Institute of Technology c I T
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  or Caltech as they call it. But why doesn't Texas have a Texas Institute
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  of Technology? And then it'd me, hm T I T. Yes,
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  that's probably the reason. And then a friend of mine suggested adding an S
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  for science, and that became TITS. And then of course you put out
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  another tweak where you said, but of course there will be an advanced social
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  studies faculty. Yeah, of course, of course you gotta have that.
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  I mean, now, are you thinking procedious about that project? Well,
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  you know, I do believe in making jokes come true. Because the Boring
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  Company was initially just a joke that I said I was going to start a
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  company to dig holes. It's gonna be like the Boring Company, like Boeing,
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  but but just like the Bowing Company, but the Boring company and it's
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  it's product will be nothing a whole like, can you look at our product?
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  Our product is the absence of something. Well, that's like the Seinfeld
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  episode where he's pitching a pilot and the whole point of the show is nothing.
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  So it's exactly yeah, okay, So let me let me ask you
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  one last question. This comes from the latest book on Happiness. I argue
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  in the book that the research overwhelmingly demonstrates that the correlation between money and happiness
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  only applies up to an inflection point, so once your basic necessities are met,
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  I think the old study was seventy five thousand. Now we need to
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  increase seventy five thousand because of Biden's inflation. But do you subscribe to that?
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  So, I mean, Elon Musk, the richest man in the world
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  is not necessarily happier because you can out by me by two hundred billion dollars.
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  No, No, definitely not. I think that's more or less correct.
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  In fact, I'd say there's a decrease in halfiness that occurs when the
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  fame level exceeds that which is useful. So like there's certain you know,
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  modicum of fame which where you can now get it's easy to get a reservation
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  at a restaurant. That's that's like the you want that level of fame and
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  not anything beyond it, because because then you get to the level of flame
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  where you go to the restaurant and everyone's coming up to you a table,
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  which is and people actually are very nice, very nice manor and super good.
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  But I do often get stuck in the can I have a selfie infinite
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  loop and it's in the And that's my bi version of hell is the can
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  I have a selfie infinite loop and people are super nice, and I want
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  to do the selfie, but I don't want to be stuck and I can
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  have yourself infinitely forever. So there's you know, that's I say you you
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  you're passed in terms of fame. Definitely a threshold where things are less fun
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  and you can't I can't just go to the mall or go to a movie
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  theater easily and walk around without you know, creating a ruckus. So now
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  do you do you when you when you just move around in your daily life?
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  Forgive me you please tell me if you can't answer this, do you
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  have to have security around or is it just that or you do right?
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  Well, So here's the thing that happens, which is like, it's it's
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  very rare for me to get actually death threats or anything. But it's but
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  I say, like in the last related to actually like, no one's ever
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  said what I got this terrible beef against you and I'm going to kill you
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  because of the following well thought out ideas. But I have had two cases
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  in the last extra the last six months. We're of two people who are
• 22:52
  just unfortunately just very mentally ill, but not subtle. It's not subtle,
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  it's like and they have come to Austin to try filling and with guns.
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  So like I said, in both cases that that there's no one guy thought
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  I'd put a chip in his head, you know, like a new reladship
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  or something. And I'm like, which I think you got to consider the
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  logic of that. Well, the chip's obviously not working. If I'm putting
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  a chip into Carol and control him, you know, clean not working,
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  So what do you like an upgrade, maybe a software update or something.
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  So, you know, so one guy they basically just extreme schizophrenic. And
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  another guy he's actually reasonably okay when he's on his meds, but he stopped
• 23:30
  taking his meds and then it's just total detachment from reality, you know.
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  So these are schizophrenics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like hardcore like you
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  know, like are you are you Austin, Are you any regrets of having
• 23:48
  moved out of beautiful California to Austin or are you every day happy that you've
• 23:52
  made that decision. Austin's a great city and it's boomtown. It's the probably
• 23:56
  the biggest boomtown in America since La in the seventies. And a ton of
• 24:00
  interesting people keep moving here. So I have a lot of friends that have
• 24:03
  moved here from New York and California and other parts of the world. And
• 24:07
  so it's it's really I think it has it has all the pros and cons
• 24:10
  of book moved out, you know. So it's a lot a lot of
• 24:12
  energy, and but you know, there's a shortage of houses and resources because
• 24:18
  lots of people moving here. So overall, I feel very good about Austin,
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  and like I said, there's more more interesting people moving here every day,
• 24:23
  and but I think there's there's obviously a lot to be said for California,
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  but I do feel like California is, unfortunately, to go through this
• 24:29
  phase where the Golden State is gonna cook the Golden Geese. So it's sort
• 24:33
  of not enough to simply make the eggs. They're gonna, they're gonna,
• 24:37
  they're gonna, they want, they want, They're gonna go cooking the geese,
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  and and you don't want to be there while the geese cooking is happening.
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  Yeah, so I think that I think at some point there will be
• 24:45
  somewhat of a pushback, but really the state kind of has to encounter financial
• 24:49
  difficulties before that happened, and and and this with this, hopefully at some
• 24:53
  point, a reduction in the extreme amount of regulation, the extreme amount of
• 24:57
  litigation, and the extreme amount of taxation, which are both over the topping.
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  All three of those are over the toping