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Paul Bloxham: HSBC chief economist predicts whether inflation will dip below 3 percent tomorrow · Best of Business

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  Speaker 2: Hey listen tomorrow, Big Day. We're going to find out
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  Speaker 2: whether inflation is officially back in the target band. It
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  Speaker 2: peaked obviously seven point three percent mid twenty two, down
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  Speaker 2: to three point three percent in the last quarter. Paul
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  Speaker 2: blockshim as hspc's chief economist and with us now Paul, Hello, Hello,
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  Speaker 2: you sitting with a consensus two point two two point
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  Speaker 2: three percent.
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  Speaker 3: Two point one. Yeah, we're we're down there. We think
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  Speaker 3: that it's going to be quite a low number. It's
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  Speaker 3: going to fall quite a long way. And yes, of
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  Speaker 3: course back in the target band, and not too far
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  Speaker 3: off the center of the target band, which is all
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  Speaker 3: pretty good news really, And obviously part of that good
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  Speaker 3: news has already been reflected in the fact that the
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  Speaker 3: RBNZ has already delivered seventy five basis points of easing
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  Speaker 3: twenty five and then the super sized move we got
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  Speaker 3: from them last week. In terms of that fifty basis
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  Speaker 3: point mode, we think that probably given if that happens,
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  Speaker 3: and if that's the pace of disinflation that's happening in
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  Speaker 3: the economy, that the RB and Z will probably easily
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  Speaker 3: deliver a large move again in November before Christmas, So
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  Speaker 3: we think another fifty basis point move. That's what we're
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  Speaker 3: factoring in. Inflation's coming down, because of course the New
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  Speaker 3: Zealand economy has been a very weak You've had an
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  Speaker 3: extended period of weakness in the economy for almost more
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  Speaker 3: basically two years, and so that has disinflated the economy
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  Speaker 3: and now the Arbenz can focus on trying to pump
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  Speaker 3: prime growth by lowering interest rates, and that's the New
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  Speaker 3: Zealand story.
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  Speaker 2: Paul, there are already calls for even bigger than fifty
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  Speaker 2: basis points, seventy five basis points. Is that is that possible?
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  Speaker 3: It's possible. It's certainly the case that given there's such
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  Speaker 3: a large gap between the November meeting and the February
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  Speaker 3: meeting next year, you know, it's a really long period
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  Speaker 3: of time, and given that it's pretty clear that the
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  Speaker 3: economy is weak, the labor markets loosening, that inflation's coming down,
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  Speaker 3: that the ARBY and Z could deliver more, even more
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  Speaker 3: support than that. So it'll a little bit on what
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  Speaker 3: that print looks like tomorrow partly the composition of it
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  Speaker 3: as well. So inflation's coming down. Most of this inflation
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  Speaker 3: we've seen so far has been goods prices coming down,
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  Speaker 3: and there's still been this residual stickiness in services inflation.
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  Speaker 3: And so one of the key questions will be how
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  Speaker 3: much is services inflation still holding up, how much is
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  Speaker 3: it domestic inflation still a little bit sticky, and that'll
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  Speaker 3: be a factor in the rbens and thinking no doubt,
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  Speaker 3: and then of course looking at the sort of timely
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  Speaker 3: indicators of what happens in the jobs market, which they'll
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  Speaker 3: get another print of before we get to the November meeting,
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  Speaker 3: and someone so, yes, it is possible. Not what we're
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  Speaker 3: thinking is the central case, but what we should all
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  Speaker 3: think is there are moll rate cuts that are coming soon.
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  Speaker 2: Paul. Is there a justification potentially, because as you point out,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it is a massive gap between the end
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  Speaker 2: of November when they come back in the new year.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a justification for actually perhaps prudently scheduling a
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  Speaker 2: few extra meetings and saying, look, it's unorthodox, but we're
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  Speaker 2: going to put a few in there because we may
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  Speaker 2: need to move even faster.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you can make the case that they
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  Speaker 3: could meet a bit more frequently. The RBA, for example,
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  Speaker 3: used to meet eleven times a year and has actually recently,
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  Speaker 3: because of its review over here in Australia, shifted the
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  Speaker 3: other way. They've gone from meeting eleven times a year
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  Speaker 3: to now they're going to be meeting eight times a year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're doing that now. So the general sort of trend
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  Speaker 3: across the world if you look at the major central banks,
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  Speaker 3: the key central banks in the developed economies, is to
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  Speaker 3: meet about eight times a year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean what I'm saying with them, it's absolutely fine
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  Speaker 2: in normal times, right when you're not in war times
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  Speaker 2: to kind of maybe leave it at eleven or leave
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  Speaker 2: it a day to whatever. But the New Zealand economy
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  Speaker 2: is clearly in quite a bloody pickle where we are
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  Speaker 2: talking about fifty to seventy five basis point cuts in
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  Speaker 2: which case should they not be on a war footing
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  Speaker 2: and saying because of the difficulty the economy is facing,
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  Speaker 2: we are going to this summer meet more frequently because
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  Speaker 2: we're in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's for the RBNZ to assess. They could decided
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  Speaker 3: they wanted to have an extra meeting if they wanted
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  Speaker 3: to the question the balancing act there is, is it
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  Speaker 3: better to call some sort of additional meeting because you
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  Speaker 3: are and therefore you would be conveying that you are
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  Speaker 3: really very very concerned about the economy. Or is it
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  Speaker 3: better to stick to the original schedule and move in
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  Speaker 3: larger increments if you feel like you need to exactly
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  Speaker 3: keep calm and feel and move in larger increments if
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  Speaker 3: you actually feel like you need to deliver more support.
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  Speaker 3: So I think, as a working assumption, as a sort
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  Speaker 3: of best assessment of what's likely to happen, I think
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  Speaker 3: they're more likely to move, you know, faster they if
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  Speaker 3: they feel like they need to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting stuff, a very interesting times, Paul, Thank you
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  Speaker 2: so much. Appreciate it. Paul Block them agspc's chief economists.
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