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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good morning us say yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:03Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:05Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
- 0:06Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yo just hilarious.
- 0:10Speaker 3: Hey yo, what's up?
- 0:11Speaker 2: Laura La Rossa, good morning y'all.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Charlmagne and be is stuck behind a dump truck somewhere
- 0:16Speaker 1: and it should have left home like ten minutes earlier.
- 0:19Speaker 1: But it's okay because sometimes I be late to it
- 0:21Speaker 1: don't matter, no, it don't matter.
- 0:23Speaker 2: How was your night last night? My night was great.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Shout out to sixty three Auto spot.
- 0:28Speaker 4: They took me out to dinner, okay, of course, and
- 0:30Speaker 4: you know, having some great conversations and some great food.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Oh okay, so that's all. Yeah, that's what I can
- 0:36Speaker 2: say right now. Date it wasn't a date. Oh no, no, no,
- 0:38Speaker 2: it wasn't a day. Sound like something. They took me
- 0:41Speaker 2: out on the day, like, okay, how many of them
- 0:43Speaker 2: was it? It was for?
- 0:45Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no yo, no no no.
- 0:47Speaker 2: No no no it was. It was just it was
- 0:50Speaker 2: like more like a business dinner thing.
- 0:52Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Working, I'm about to do some car stuff, you know, workwise,
- 0:56Speaker 2: so that's what's up.
- 0:57Speaker 6: Yeah, you're about to be a mechanic.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Too, girl. You know I can't, but we never do
- 1:01Speaker 2: with these nails.
- 1:01Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we ain't gonna get in this mechanic outfit.
- 1:05Speaker 1: You look nice given set it off.
- 1:07Speaker 6: You know.
- 1:08Speaker 2: I'm ronky.
- 1:09Speaker 4: I'm about to be, you know, just doing brand work.
- 1:11Speaker 4: Look at Eli, he's so high. He's telling me, I
- 1:13Speaker 4: look like set it off.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Every time I weard this Malana off there every single time.
- 1:16Speaker 1: But he said, he gave you queen and tef he
- 1:17Speaker 1: ain't shitn't have been and my wig is on and
- 1:20Speaker 1: it is and I didn't have the breath.
- 1:21Speaker 6: You can't even see a breeze. Yeah.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Well, yesterday, you know, the weather was nice.
- 1:25Speaker 1: Me and my man took our daughter out for the
- 1:29Speaker 1: first time, well not the first time any like, shan't
- 1:31Speaker 1: never been out, but to the farmer's market. Like we
- 1:34Speaker 1: had her in the stroller strolling around and she was
- 1:36Speaker 1: like looking up the stroller. She was chilling and and
- 1:39Speaker 1: it was it was a whole dope time. We got
- 1:41Speaker 1: some fruits and vegetables. You know, that is very much
- 1:43Speaker 1: on brand for my man, yo, Like he he loved
- 1:46Speaker 1: doing it. He loved playing and growing and all.
- 1:48Speaker 2: That type of stuff. So yeah, it was a nice
- 1:50Speaker 2: little and then we of course had to have a
- 1:52Speaker 2: drink somewhere. We went to Local. I love Local Eatery.
- 1:54Speaker 2: It's a spot in Jersey City.
- 1:56Speaker 6: It's lit. You gotta go.
- 1:58Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I gotta figure that out. I never I
- 1:59Speaker 4: never been refer I'm cracking up. You're talking about she
- 2:01Speaker 4: was looking around the show that she ain't been nowhere.
- 2:04Speaker 1: No, I know, we first time of us actually having
- 2:06Speaker 1: her at a farmer's market, like people close to it
- 2:09Speaker 1: can see her, walk up on her and stuff like that.
- 2:11Speaker 2: So it was it was a nice experience. Aren't you
- 2:13Speaker 2: trying to hide her from artist?
- 2:15Speaker 6: You know what?
- 2:16Speaker 2: I already deal with that from these two niggas up here.
- 2:19Speaker 1: You do not be in on the ice stuff with
- 2:22Speaker 1: my daughter because they're gonna get me open the show together.
- 2:24Speaker 1: I know, right, Yeah, ain't a crazy over hare sweating
- 2:27Speaker 1: bullets cause I don't know what to say next anyway.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it is Wednesday. It's Wednesday, so it's hump day. Yeah,
- 2:35Speaker 2: hump day, what charlamage do?
- 2:39Speaker 1: That's my fee op for real wide and and joining
- 2:42Speaker 1: us today we got Debby Brown. She has a new book,
- 2:45Speaker 1: Living in Wisdom, A Path to Embodying your Authentic Self,
- 2:48Speaker 1: Embracing grief and developing self mastery, is out now. Heavy
- 2:51Speaker 1: Brown also has a podcast with The Black Effect our
- 2:55Speaker 1: Heart Network, you know some some something or another. And
- 2:58Speaker 1: then also later in the show, we got Unlessia Johnson
- 3:01Speaker 1: also with a new book.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Oh these authors, I tell you.
- 3:04Speaker 1: It's called Flip the Tables, every Day Disruptor's Guide to
- 3:07Speaker 1: Finding courage and making Change.
- 3:08Speaker 2: And it's out now as well. And we got Front
- 3:11Speaker 2: Page News.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Cracking off, and Mimi Brown is here because Morgan is out.
- 3:16Speaker 2: So we're gonna get the show cracking and we'll be
- 3:18Speaker 2: right back after this. Yeah, I know that's right there.
- 3:21Speaker 7: Warning everybody is TJ N V jes hilarious, Charlamage the God.
- 3:25Speaker 6: We are the Breakfast Club.
- 3:26Speaker 8: We are here, Yes, thank you going Yeah, I'm telling
- 3:29Speaker 8: on the garbage trucks this morning.
- 3:31Speaker 9: You know what I mean.
- 3:31Speaker 6: There's nothing you can do when things are out of
- 3:33Speaker 6: your control.
- 3:33Speaker 8: But you know, if you're in New York City where
- 3:35Speaker 8: we broadcast from NYC, three eleven is the number to
- 3:38Speaker 8: report the garbage trucks.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Oh my damn.
- 3:42Speaker 8: Anytime you get stupped find the garbage trucks and they
- 3:45Speaker 8: just disrespectful like that. I know, everybody start blowing their horn.
- 3:47Speaker 8: I don't because there's nothing you can do in that situation.
- 3:49Speaker 6: But if they don't have.
- 3:50Speaker 8: No regard for people that got to get to go
- 3:52Speaker 8: where they gotta go, and they taking the little time,
- 3:54Speaker 8: report them a couple of minutes.
- 3:55Speaker 7: I understand, but literally, charlamage and I was between ten
- 3:58Speaker 7: and fifteen minutes.
- 3:59Speaker 3: People behind the truck.
- 4:00Speaker 7: And you two blocks away from the two blocks away
- 4:02Speaker 7: from work, Come on, fifteen minutes, we're stuck.
- 4:04Speaker 6: Come on, man and YC three eleven.
- 4:06Speaker 8: You don't know people in the emergencies and they're sick
- 4:08Speaker 8: trying to get to the hospital.
- 4:09Speaker 6: You don't know what it is. Report them garbage trucks
- 4:11Speaker 6: that do that.
- 4:11Speaker 7: And they was taking their sweet time. I'm sitting there, Yeah, wow,
- 4:15Speaker 7: how to.
- 4:15Speaker 6: Call on them?
- 4:16Speaker 1: If a lot of dump truck workers are black, they're
- 4:20Speaker 1: not Mexican.
- 4:21Speaker 6: But if we're thinking about somebody I could call.
- 4:23Speaker 8: In that moment, that's what made me google and find
- 4:24Speaker 8: out about NYC three eleven, because in that moment, I
- 4:26Speaker 8: was just like.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Yo, you literally google to who to call on the disk.
- 4:30Speaker 8: We were there for fifteen minutes and had nothing to
- 4:32Speaker 8: do with disrespectful that washing to do.
- 4:34Speaker 6: I wasn't even thinking about me.
- 4:35Speaker 8: I was just thinking what about anybody else that might
- 4:37Speaker 8: be sick or trying to get to the hospital, trying
- 4:39Speaker 8: to get it was just bad.
- 4:41Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 4:41Speaker 7: Well, all right, well let's get in some front page news.
- 4:44Speaker 7: Let's start off with some quick sports. Now, last night
- 4:46Speaker 7: the Lakers tied the series. They beat the timber Wolves
- 4:48Speaker 7: ninety four eighty five, then to beat the Grizzlies one
- 4:50Speaker 7: eighteen ninety nine. They lead the series to nothing, and
- 4:53Speaker 7: the Pacers beat the Bucks one twenty three, one fifteen.
- 4:55Speaker 7: They lead that series in the playoffs.
- 4:57Speaker 6: What's up to me?
- 4:59Speaker 2: It's he up, y'all?
- 5:00Speaker 8: Good morning, how y'all doing, Good.
- 5:03Speaker 10: Morning, good morning.
- 5:04Speaker 11: All right, well, let's start with something that is about
- 5:07Speaker 11: to hit people in their pockets. The Trump administration says
- 5:11Speaker 11: it will resume debt collection for people who have defaulted
- 5:14Speaker 11: on their federal student loans starting May fifth. Now, student
- 5:18Speaker 11: loan goes into default if you hadn't made a payment
- 5:20Speaker 11: in about two hundred and seventy days, or approximately around
- 5:23Speaker 11: nine months. The Department of Education says this will apply
- 5:27Speaker 11: to all federal loan types, including direct loans, perkin loans,
- 5:31Speaker 11: federal family education loans. So right now, more than five
- 5:35Speaker 11: million people are already in default and another four million
- 5:39Speaker 11: people are close to it. That means nearly nine million
- 5:42Speaker 11: borrowers could soon face really serious consequences. In a press conference,
- 5:47Speaker 11: Press Secretary Caroline leave it levittxcuse me explained how the
- 5:50Speaker 11: administration plans to move forward with collections.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Let's hear what she had to say.
- 5:55Speaker 12: Borrowers will now be clearly expected to repay their loans,
- 5:58Speaker 12: and those who default on their loan obligations will face
- 6:01Speaker 12: involuntary collections. The government can and will collect defaulted federal
- 6:06Speaker 12: student loan debt by withholding money from borrowers tax refunds,
- 6:09Speaker 12: federal pensions, and even their wages.
- 6:12Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought they already did that.
- 6:14Speaker 7: I know for a fact when I had school loans
- 6:17Speaker 7: and I got a tax refund, they automatically took that
- 6:19Speaker 7: to pay the school loans.
- 6:20Speaker 6: So I thought that was already done.
- 6:23Speaker 11: Well you know what they started it. They put it
- 6:25Speaker 11: back into session like right around COVID. So they haven't
- 6:28Speaker 11: pressed or went after student loan borrowers since before the
- 6:32Speaker 11: COVID nineteen crisis.
- 6:34Speaker 10: And so now the Trump administration.
- 6:36Speaker 11: Says it will start sending out notices later this summer
- 6:39Speaker 11: informing those who have defaulted on their student loans about
- 6:42Speaker 11: their wage garnishment. They can take up to fifteen percent
- 6:45Speaker 11: of your check.
- 6:47Speaker 10: Again.
- 6:48Speaker 11: All this starts on May fifth. And if you think
- 6:51Speaker 11: you might be in default the administration, they recommend you
- 6:54Speaker 11: contacting the Student Aid Default Resolution Group. You may be
- 6:58Speaker 11: able to get back on track by making monthly payment
- 7:01Speaker 11: and rolling in an income driven repayment plan or applying
- 7:04Speaker 11: for a loan rehabilitation. But this is about to hit
- 7:08Speaker 11: millions of people in about a week and a half.
- 7:10Speaker 8: If you voted for Trump because of the economy, if
- 7:12Speaker 8: you voted for Trump because he was gonna put more
- 7:14Speaker 8: money in your pockets, you've got to be rethinking that decision.
- 7:16Speaker 8: That this of course, of course, but when you have
- 7:19Speaker 8: it's even been one hundred days, Lord have mercy.
- 7:21Speaker 6: You're right.
- 7:22Speaker 7: But when you have school loans, right, and when you graduate,
- 7:24Speaker 7: you have to look for a job, and then it
- 7:26Speaker 7: gives you a certain amount of time to find a job,
- 7:27Speaker 7: and at nine times out of ten, that job can't
- 7:30Speaker 7: pay for your rent. If you have a car, you're eating,
- 7:33Speaker 7: and then to pay that school loan. There's no possible way.
- 7:35Speaker 7: You can't afford to pay all those sticks.
- 7:36Speaker 8: Yeah, and if inflation is high, if people are losing
- 7:38Speaker 8: their jobs, if tariffs got to cost the goods high,
- 7:41Speaker 8: where people are gonna.
- 7:42Speaker 6: Get this money from? Exactly what wage you gonna gone this?
- 7:45Speaker 6: I ain't got none.
- 7:46Speaker 3: You're gonna You're just gonna mess up my credit.
- 7:48Speaker 7: But I can't pay you because it's either my rent
- 7:50Speaker 7: or it is gonna pay these cool loans. And which
- 7:51Speaker 7: way you're gonna pay? And if you got kids, I
- 7:53Speaker 7: gotta put food on the table. I'm gonna play the
- 7:55Speaker 7: school loans.
- 7:56Speaker 8: Only fans selling ass twenty five cheek twenty.
- 8:00Speaker 6: Five hey, not only work.
- 8:03Speaker 3: If you white? All right, well that is front page news, Mimi.
- 8:06Speaker 7: We'll see you next hour, all right, everybody else, get
- 8:10Speaker 7: it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one
- 8:12Speaker 7: oh five one. If you need to vent, phone lines
- 8:15Speaker 7: are wide open. Eight hundred five eight five one oh
- 8:18Speaker 7: five one. Maybe you're driving to work. You were about
- 8:20Speaker 7: fifteen minutes twenty minutes from working, then you got stuck
- 8:22Speaker 7: behind it.
- 8:22Speaker 6: We were gonna show fifteen twenty minutes from work. We
- 8:24Speaker 6: were three minutes from work. I know it's two blocks away.
- 8:28Speaker 7: Damn it many whatever it is, get it off your chest.
- 8:30Speaker 7: Call us up right now, phone lines wide open.
- 8:32Speaker 6: It's the Breakfast Club.
- 8:33Speaker 9: Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wait, it's a day is
- 8:39Speaker 9: if you're time to get it off your chest, way up,
- 8:42Speaker 9: whether you're.
- 8:42Speaker 6: Mad or blessed, time to get up and get something.
- 8:45Speaker 9: Call up now.
- 8:46Speaker 6: Eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one.
- 8:48Speaker 9: We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
- 8:50Speaker 6: Hello.
- 8:51Speaker 13: Who's this avenue?
- 8:53Speaker 6: Eben?
- 8:54Speaker 3: Good morning?
- 8:54Speaker 6: Get one morning? What's up?
- 8:57Speaker 14: Okay, I'm calling I'm let me get off my chance
- 9:01Speaker 14: at resting to what I was talking to this about
- 9:03Speaker 14: this morning.
- 9:04Speaker 6: The student loans, I'm one of them.
- 9:06Speaker 14: Yes, I'm one of those people that is like still
- 9:08Speaker 14: in distress. I'm a single mom. I graduated from college
- 9:12Speaker 14: not even using anything from my degree. By the lay,
- 9:14Speaker 14: I'm driving churchs now.
- 9:15Speaker 2: I rain't got my CEO.
- 9:16Speaker 15: Probably making more money in the last four years doing
- 9:18Speaker 15: this than I ever would have made with that.
- 9:20Speaker 13: He's papers car.
- 9:21Speaker 6: Look here, that's true.
- 9:23Speaker 14: But the student loans about to kill me like I'm
- 9:26Speaker 14: struggling taking care of the tudor I got by myself.
- 9:28Speaker 14: Daycare is stupid high. I'm on my cousins in New
- 9:31Speaker 14: York to come to stay.
- 9:32Speaker 13: And he just felt me with that.
- 9:34Speaker 14: And I'm working sixty hours a week to maintain the
- 9:36Speaker 14: bills that I got, Like you said, I got a car,
- 9:38Speaker 14: I got ran, still trying to buy a house. And
- 9:40Speaker 14: now they're about the gardeners raging for student loans or
- 9:42Speaker 14: something that I'm not even using.
- 9:44Speaker 3: And that's what I was saying.
- 9:44Speaker 7: It's like they got to come up with a better way,
- 9:46Speaker 7: because you I could barely pay my rent, bally pay
- 9:48Speaker 7: my car. No, bally put food on the table. If
- 9:50Speaker 7: I have a child, I gotta pay daycare. And then
- 9:52Speaker 7: you're gonna garnish fifteen percent. That's impossible.
- 9:55Speaker 3: You can't.
- 9:55Speaker 6: You can't do that.
- 9:56Speaker 14: It's crazy. I don't even know how we want to
- 9:58Speaker 14: make it.
- 9:59Speaker 15: Like I'm I'm straight. Took the gas every week, so
- 10:01Speaker 15: I would have worked at it that and now I
- 10:03Speaker 15: gotta paid. I got worried about you take the tea
- 10:06Speaker 15: for school that we're not even Oh my god, and
- 10:09Speaker 15: a lot of country school the scree education the.
- 10:12Speaker 6: Streme right, that is very true.
- 10:14Speaker 8: Well, you know what man, I really do hope that
- 10:16Speaker 8: people realize elections have consequences. And you know, I'm not
- 10:19Speaker 8: sitting there saying that, you know, the economy was any
- 10:21Speaker 8: better when the Biden administration was in, but it was, uh,
- 10:25Speaker 8: it was a little bit better than this.
- 10:26Speaker 7: And I don't know if people know that if you
- 10:28Speaker 7: get married to somebody and they have school loans, their
- 10:31Speaker 7: school loans are now your school loans. So if you
- 10:33Speaker 7: get married to somebody and you get some money back
- 10:35Speaker 7: on taxes, they take that money to pay your partner's
- 10:37Speaker 7: school load. Ask me how I know, because when I
- 10:40Speaker 7: got married, gear had school loans. I did my taxes
- 10:43Speaker 7: and I thought I was getting money back. Nah, right
- 10:45Speaker 7: to the school loans her school looms. Yes, absolutely, Well I.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Needed to see if Chris finished how you was stayed
- 10:50Speaker 1: because I don't know you like, I only went for
- 10:54Speaker 1: like one semester, but I ain't got to pay that bake.
- 10:56Speaker 3: If you only went for one.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Time, that you do, Yes, if you went, you gotta
- 10:59Speaker 2: pay because one semester.
- 11:01Speaker 6: I sold crack, but you ain't got paid. Lose this
- 11:07Speaker 6: This is.
- 11:07Speaker 10: Anonymous in Jersey.
- 11:09Speaker 16: I don't know who's listening.
- 11:10Speaker 6: So millions of people but you can give a fake name.
- 11:14Speaker 6: It's like nobody can see you.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Man, Melissa Pasta, what's up?
- 11:21Speaker 14: So I'm mad because I am tired.
- 11:24Speaker 13: I work three jobs.
- 11:25Speaker 17: I'm not a single parent, but I'm tired and the
- 11:30Speaker 17: long crack it's.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Been effect mm hmm, all right, Josha, so good.
- 11:41Speaker 6: That crop o, Tasha. I am praying for you.
- 11:46Speaker 8: And then you know, there's there's nothing anybody can do
- 11:48Speaker 8: about this situation at the current moment. And the gap
- 11:51Speaker 8: between the haves and the have notch is so wide
- 11:52Speaker 8: in this country, man, and people are just trying to
- 11:55Speaker 8: make it every day. And this feels like these people
- 11:58Speaker 8: that are in positions of power, these rich folks, elected officials,
- 12:01Speaker 8: they do not care about, you know, people that are
- 12:04Speaker 8: not in the same tax bracket.
- 12:05Speaker 3: As it doesn't even make sense. But between this and
- 12:09Speaker 3: even the late fees with.
- 12:10Speaker 7: Credit cards, right, people are usually latest because they're trying
- 12:12Speaker 7: to figure it out or they're waiting for their next ship.
- 12:15Speaker 7: They're gonna bring back the high rates for being late,
- 12:18Speaker 7: which affects nobody like you said to have it makes no.
- 12:20Speaker 14: Sense, doesn't And I can never get through to man.
- 12:26Speaker 9: Oh man, oh man.
- 12:28Speaker 17: If this is the master, like you know, and you
- 12:32Speaker 17: know it's my husband, my mother be like bumping heads
- 12:35Speaker 17: because we all live together, and I do not know
- 12:38Speaker 17: what to do.
- 12:38Speaker 7: Well, hold on, hold on, Tasha, hold on, Tasha, hold on,
- 12:42Speaker 7: hold on. We're gonna put your whole We're gonna just
- 12:43Speaker 7: hold you down in a second.
- 12:44Speaker 6: Okay, I just want the record the show.
- 12:47Speaker 8: Not to make this political man, but you know, Trump
- 12:49Speaker 8: promised to make the economy better on day one, Like
- 12:51Speaker 8: if you run on things like groceries, which he said,
- 12:54Speaker 8: he said he won the election because of groceries. If
- 12:56Speaker 8: you ran on that, then you have to come in
- 12:59Speaker 8: and immediately try to bring some type of relief. He's
- 13:01Speaker 8: come in and just immediately hurt people ran more.
- 13:05Speaker 7: Right, get it off your chest eight hundred five eight
- 13:08Speaker 7: five one oh five one. If you need to vent,
- 13:09Speaker 7: hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club in the morning,
- 13:12Speaker 7: the Breakfast Club.
- 13:18Speaker 9: This is your time to get it off your chest.
- 13:20Speaker 6: Eight hundred five eight five one five one.
- 13:22Speaker 9: We want to hear from you on the breakfast Club. Hello,
- 13:26Speaker 9: who's that yo? What's up? Brother?
- 13:29Speaker 6: Get it off your chest?
- 13:30Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 13:30Speaker 13: I just I mean, honestly, I want to talk about this.
- 13:32Speaker 6: Whole studio long thing they had to talk to us.
- 13:35Speaker 13: Brother, I just I don't understand how y'all get on
- 13:38Speaker 13: the radio, specifically Charla Man and then he y'all are
- 13:43Speaker 13: telling these people, y'all have people scared out of here
- 13:46Speaker 13: about what's really going on. I just don't appreciate it.
- 13:49Speaker 13: If you borrow money, why you have to pay it back.
- 13:52Speaker 7: I don't understand that nobody's saying you don't have to
- 13:55Speaker 7: pay it back. But if if we're getting a loan
- 13:57Speaker 7: from the government and times are hard and times of
- 14:00Speaker 7: nobody saying they're not gonna pay it back. But if
- 14:02Speaker 7: you're gonna start garnish my wages and I can't pay
- 14:04Speaker 7: for my rent, you're gonna start garnishing my wages and
- 14:07Speaker 7: I can't put food on the table. If you're gonna
- 14:09Speaker 7: garnish my wages and I can't not just wages, but
- 14:15Speaker 7: not just wages.
- 14:16Speaker 13: That's not the tax payers for that. We decided to
- 14:19Speaker 13: get along and we can't afford to pay it back.
- 14:22Speaker 13: We got to stop pushing the nine taking accountability.
- 14:26Speaker 7: No, nobody's nobody's doing none taking accountability.
- 14:30Speaker 13: Y'all have to stop.
- 14:31Speaker 9: City City. Let me ask you a question.
- 14:34Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question because it's his administration
- 14:37Speaker 6: doing it. Questions his Department of Education.
- 14:40Speaker 7: When the automotive industry was going down, and the automotive
- 14:43Speaker 7: industry couldn't pay anybody and was defaulting on their loans,
- 14:46Speaker 7: the government helped them out right. When the airlines were
- 14:49Speaker 7: messed up and they couldn't pay their loans back and
- 14:52Speaker 7: they were messed up, the government helped them out right.
- 14:54Speaker 7: When all these billion dollar companies are messed up, the
- 14:57Speaker 7: government helps them out. All we asking for is little help.
- 14:59Speaker 7: Nobody say nobody gonna pay him back, but just help out.
- 15:01Speaker 7: Just look for the common people when they know things
- 15:03Speaker 7: are fed.
- 15:04Speaker 6: Up, and brother and brother can ask you a simple question.
- 15:06Speaker 8: You told me not to blame Trump, but the Trump
- 15:07Speaker 8: administration announced one day they're the ones who are resuming
- 15:10Speaker 8: the debt collections for federal student loan borrows.
- 15:12Speaker 6: So who else am I supposed to blame?
- 15:13Speaker 13: Absolute? Absolutely, because again we have to start taking accountability
- 15:19Speaker 13: for the choices that we make. We have to like,
- 15:21Speaker 13: we can't sit here and take out federal funds and
- 15:25Speaker 13: then not expect to have to pay you back. That's
- 15:27Speaker 13: why American.
- 15:28Speaker 6: Yeah, but did you but talking about did you hear.
- 15:32Speaker 8: Talking about did you hear what V just said When
- 15:34Speaker 8: these big corporations need bailouts, when they take our big.
- 15:38Speaker 13: Loans and the people, we can't keep looking at corporations.
- 15:41Speaker 13: We have to make our old our old decisions, and
- 15:44Speaker 13: our own choice.
- 15:45Speaker 8: You're not making no sense. You're you're one of those
- 15:47Speaker 8: people who came up. You care more about the rich
- 15:50Speaker 8: than you do everyday working class people. You can't you
- 15:53Speaker 8: care more about the rich than you do everyday working
- 15:56Speaker 8: class people.
- 15:57Speaker 13: You're rich? Stop telling people you are rich. You're rich.
- 16:00Speaker 13: Here is a completely different things than what you say
- 16:03Speaker 13: on the Brilliant Idiots started.
- 16:04Speaker 8: You know why, you know, you know, you know, listen,
- 16:06Speaker 8: I care about every day working class people because those
- 16:08Speaker 8: are the people that listen to the radio every day.
- 16:10Speaker 2: He said you wasn't rich.
- 16:12Speaker 6: You said you wasn't rich. I'm I'm doing okay that
- 16:15Speaker 6: you keep.
- 16:16Speaker 13: On the podcast.
- 16:17Speaker 6: I don't talk no different than than on Brilliant, not
- 16:19Speaker 6: doing breakfast class.
- 16:21Speaker 3: But this, but this is what you don't understand city life.
- 16:24Speaker 9: You know it.
- 16:25Speaker 6: That's a damn lie. You ain't never heard me think
- 16:27Speaker 6: I will always be here for the working class.
- 16:29Speaker 13: Get here in cap bro you can get over here
- 16:31Speaker 13: in cup all you want to. I'm a city wife
- 16:32Speaker 13: from Florida. All right, I'm out of here, bro.
- 16:35Speaker 7: And this is what people, This is what he doesn't understand. Yes,
- 16:38Speaker 7: I might be okay now, but I was in the
- 16:40Speaker 7: same situation that all these people were years ago. I
- 16:43Speaker 7: was the one that was working. My dad, I say,
- 16:45Speaker 7: is a retired police officer. We didn't have a lot
- 16:47Speaker 7: of money growing up. But every little bit Maden and
- 16:50Speaker 7: for all these people out there, every little bit maddess like,
- 16:53Speaker 7: you cannot.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Do this to people where people are hurt, they're struggling.
- 16:55Speaker 3: They can't.
- 16:56Speaker 7: They got to make a decision to pay rent or
- 16:58Speaker 7: to pay school loans. They gotta make a decision to
- 17:00Speaker 7: buy eggs or to pay school loans.
- 17:01Speaker 3: A Daycad, it ain't.
- 17:02Speaker 7: Right when the government helped so many people, and Hope
- 17:05Speaker 7: helped so many nations, Hope homes.
- 17:07Speaker 6: Help your people.
- 17:08Speaker 8: And you know what's so great, it's not even that
- 17:09Speaker 8: they just doing garnishing wagers. They're doing that the pensions
- 17:12Speaker 8: and tax reforms. So how can any person ever get
- 17:16Speaker 8: a freaking a step forward in this country?
- 17:19Speaker 3: He just raised the late fees for the credit cards
- 17:21Speaker 3: again like it. It's crazy. You can't do that.
- 17:23Speaker 6: The people that are struggling, You just can't.
- 17:24Speaker 9: You can't.
- 17:25Speaker 2: You gotta have all of the biggest most mad he was,
- 17:30Speaker 2: he does.
- 17:30Speaker 6: Didn't make no sense.
- 17:31Speaker 8: Now I'm blaming, and that's why I don't even like
- 17:33Speaker 8: to be I don't even like to say politics because
- 17:36Speaker 8: people think you on the side.
- 17:38Speaker 6: The Trump administration is the one who's doing this. So
- 17:40Speaker 6: who else we supposed to play?
- 17:42Speaker 7: Get it off your chicks, eight hundred and five eight five,
- 17:45Speaker 7: one oh five one. When we come back, we got
- 17:46Speaker 7: the latest for Lauren. It's the Breakfast Club.
- 17:48Speaker 9: Good morning, the Breakfast Club, Good morning everybody.
- 17:54Speaker 7: It's the j Envy, Jess, Hilary, Charlamagne, the guy we
- 17:57Speaker 7: are the breakfast Club.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Good morning.
- 17:59Speaker 3: What's happening, And let's get to the latest with Lauren.
- 18:01Speaker 6: Lauren becoming a straight back.
- 18:05Speaker 9: She gets them from somebody that knows, somebody gets to detail.
- 18:08Speaker 2: I'm a long girl that knows a little bit about everything,
- 18:10Speaker 2: and she'd.
- 18:11Speaker 6: Be having the latest on this, The.
- 18:14Speaker 9: Latest with Lauren la Rosa.
- 18:16Speaker 8: Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details, sometimes you
- 18:18Speaker 8: have a little bit of everything.
- 18:19Speaker 9: So it's the latest on the Breakfast club talk to me.
- 18:24Speaker 4: Well, we now know that Shannon Sharp did try to
- 18:28Speaker 4: settle with his accuser for at least ten million dollars.
- 18:33Speaker 4: This was revealed yesterday by his attorney in a phone
- 18:37Speaker 4: call that they had with a bunch of different media outlets.
- 18:40Speaker 4: But prior to this phone call, and I believe what
- 18:42Speaker 4: sparked the phone call was the fact that there was
- 18:44Speaker 4: this audio released by TMZ. But in the audio is
- 18:47Speaker 4: a phone call between the accuser and Shannon Sharp. Let's
- 18:51Speaker 4: take a listen to the phone call.
- 18:53Speaker 6: I don't know anything.
- 18:54Speaker 2: I say, You're just gonna like get mad at and
- 18:57Speaker 2: you're just gonna hang up on me.
- 18:58Speaker 18: So I feel like I.
- 19:00Speaker 9: Ain't up on you.
- 19:01Speaker 13: What it is?
- 19:02Speaker 18: What does that even mean?
- 19:05Speaker 2: You want to be to me now? So I don't
- 19:07Speaker 2: want to be. Don't manipulate me.
- 19:09Speaker 16: I know that if you said that one one more time,
- 19:12Speaker 16: I'll show you that I see you.
- 19:15Speaker 9: Thank you.
- 19:17Speaker 13: Well, I don't you know what?
- 19:21Speaker 2: Oh I don't want to be?
- 19:22Speaker 6: True?
- 19:24Speaker 9: Yeah you do.
- 19:25Speaker 13: I don't think you have a choice in the matter.
- 19:27Speaker 6: How old that girl you said?
- 19:29Speaker 13: What?
- 19:29Speaker 19: How old you? Uh?
- 19:31Speaker 2: She's in her early twenties now, like what twenty one?
- 19:33Speaker 13: Right? Yeah?
- 19:34Speaker 2: She was in twenty twenty three. She was nineteen, So.
- 19:38Speaker 3: Yeah, she looks like she's like twelve thirty.
- 19:41Speaker 1: I mean to say, I have not seen the picture
- 19:43Speaker 1: showed just her. Oh wo show another pecko.
- 19:47Speaker 6: You gonna have to call liights in a minute.
- 19:49Speaker 2: She going her way to class right there she does.
- 19:51Speaker 2: She does it like a young college looks like a college.
- 19:55Speaker 13: Wow. Yeah.
- 19:56Speaker 4: So what happened was after this audio was released at
- 20:01Speaker 4: the same time, literally like moments apart, Shannon Sharp then
- 20:04Speaker 4: released a video statement, and in the video statement, he
- 20:08Speaker 4: is addressing.
- 20:09Speaker 3: She's twenty two, by the way, twenty two.
- 20:10Speaker 4: Now he's addressing what he believes is about to happen,
- 20:13Speaker 4: but he doesn't address the audio. Let's take a listen
- 20:14Speaker 4: to his video that he posted, Shannon Chark, this is
- 20:17Speaker 4: a shakedown.
- 20:17Speaker 16: This is all being orchestrated by Tony Busby, who is
- 20:20Speaker 16: targeted Jay Z. Tony Buzzby targets black men, and I
- 20:24Speaker 16: believe he's going to release a thirty second clip of
- 20:26Speaker 16: a sex tape that tries to make me look guilty
- 20:28Speaker 16: and played into every stereotype you.
- 20:30Speaker 9: Could possibly imagine.
- 20:32Speaker 16: That video should actually be ten minutes or so, Hey, Tony,
- 20:35Speaker 16: instead of releasing your edit put the whole video out.
- 20:38Speaker 16: I don't have it, or I would myself. You know
- 20:41Speaker 16: what happened, and you're trying to manipulate the media. The
- 20:43Speaker 16: encountering question took place during the day at her invitation,
- 20:47Speaker 16: and now that appears to be able deliver setup coordinated
- 20:50Speaker 16: by Gavin also known as Karly on OnlyFans Gavin Tony
- 20:53Speaker 16: Busby want fifty million dollars. What they're getting is sued
- 20:57Speaker 16: for defamation and trying to take me down. My career
- 21:00Speaker 16: is all about real talking honesty, and I'm going to
- 21:03Speaker 16: be out there telling you whatever I need to say,
- 21:05Speaker 16: just like I always do.
- 21:07Speaker 9: I love all of you guys.
- 21:08Speaker 5: You know.
- 21:09Speaker 6: It is a shakedown. It is a targeted attack.
- 21:11Speaker 8: But Shannon needed to have some accountability because he gave
- 21:14Speaker 8: them something to shake down. He gave them something to
- 21:16Speaker 8: target by making poor choices.
- 21:18Speaker 4: Yeah, and when he so basically when he mentioned her
- 21:20Speaker 4: name in the fact that she's the Only Fans girl,
- 21:22Speaker 4: people went and look and looked her up. So that's
- 21:24Speaker 4: how her photos begin to surface. Now on this phone
- 21:27Speaker 4: call that his attorney had with the media. The phone
- 21:29Speaker 4: call the attorney Shannon Strump's attorney addresses that audio that
- 21:33Speaker 4: we heard first, and what he says is that Shannon
- 21:36Speaker 4: spoke in the heat of the moment and did not
- 21:38Speaker 4: literally mean the words. Then they start having conversations about,
- 21:43Speaker 4: you know, the like different text messages that have been released,
- 21:47Speaker 4: and I printed out the text messages for you guys.
- 21:49Speaker 9: Now.
- 21:50Speaker 4: One of the things that I want to point out
- 21:51Speaker 4: here because basically what Shannon is saying is that there's
- 21:53Speaker 4: this video that's about to come out. They ask people
- 21:56Speaker 4: on this phone call with the media to not judge
- 21:58Speaker 4: because it's going to be and edit it format allegedly,
- 22:01Speaker 4: and so you won't get.
- 22:02Speaker 2: The full context.
- 22:03Speaker 4: But Shannon had said earlier in his statement, the first
- 22:06Speaker 4: statement he released, that there were things that he was
- 22:09Speaker 4: doing almost like role play that was a He says
- 22:12Speaker 4: that this was at the woman's request. And from the
- 22:14Speaker 4: look of these text messages, so there's two sets of them.
- 22:17Speaker 4: The first text message that came out Gabby, who's the woman,
- 22:22Speaker 4: the accuser. This is from January second, twenty twenty five,
- 22:25Speaker 4: and this is when she says that she was sexually assaulted.
- 22:28Speaker 4: So she's texting him and she's saying that she had
- 22:30Speaker 4: cried when he left because she had asked him to
- 22:32Speaker 4: put on a condom and she had begged him to
- 22:33Speaker 4: not put it in her behind, but he didn't listen.
- 22:37Speaker 2: And she says that she doesn't care what their history is.
- 22:39Speaker 2: No means no, right.
- 22:41Speaker 4: Then she's like, I don't know how to process this.
- 22:42Speaker 4: And then they're like, you know, can I call you later?
- 22:45Speaker 4: I guess can they talk later? But then in other
- 22:47Speaker 4: text messages you see the conversation. It goes from that
- 22:52Speaker 4: to her sending text messages and say I want to
- 22:54Speaker 4: be abused, daddy. I want like some hardcore BDSM action
- 22:59Speaker 4: though so and then she says, I want you to
- 23:03Speaker 4: tie me up like this and abuse me, daddy, And
- 23:06Speaker 4: you can see when the sex messages were released, you
- 23:08Speaker 4: can see it says like from Gabby to owner. So
- 23:12Speaker 4: it's painting a picture that their relationship was giving that
- 23:15Speaker 4: you know, there was role playing everythings that were happening.
- 23:18Speaker 9: Now.
- 23:20Speaker 8: It was a very unfortunate situation, horrible situation. The shop
- 23:24Speaker 8: and his lawyer have handled this whole situation terribly. First
- 23:28Speaker 8: of all, if you're saying the shop, you shouldn't be
- 23:29Speaker 8: saying anything. He should Busby and this young woman got
- 23:33Speaker 8: audio video and text messages. If you know all of
- 23:35Speaker 8: those things are out there, you should shut the f
- 23:37Speaker 8: up and continue to allow your lawyer to do his job.
- 23:39Speaker 8: And your lawyer set out of his own mouth that
- 23:42Speaker 8: you was close to a ten million dollars settlement with
- 23:44Speaker 8: that girl, that right there is all the more reason
- 23:46Speaker 8: to shut the f up.
- 23:46Speaker 6: I'm not here to speak to Shannon's guilt.
- 23:48Speaker 8: Are innocent because I don't know, but I do know
- 23:50Speaker 8: attempting to settle looks like an admission to guilt because
- 23:53Speaker 8: I'm not settling, or.
- 23:54Speaker 2: I'm just scared. Honestly, he's just probably scared.
- 23:58Speaker 7: I'm with you, man, I feel I feel like he's
- 24:00Speaker 7: being advised wrong right. And you know when people go
- 24:04Speaker 7: through this, they go to an attorney because the attorney
- 24:06Speaker 7: usually knows what's best for them.
- 24:07Speaker 3: They do usually know what to do.
- 24:09Speaker 7: And in this situation, like any attorney would say, shut
- 24:11Speaker 7: the f up unless deal with it in court. Let's
- 24:13Speaker 7: deal with facts, because you can't change public opinion unless
- 24:16Speaker 7: it's in court with facts. Now, but one thing I
- 24:18Speaker 7: would say if somebody said this, but I cried when
- 24:20Speaker 7: you left because I beg you to put a condom
- 24:22Speaker 7: on and you put it in my thief and you
- 24:23Speaker 7: didn't listen. I don't care what our history is. If
- 24:26Speaker 7: that didn't happen, I'm gonna be like, what the hell
- 24:28Speaker 7: are you talking about? Nah, we agreed on this. I'm
- 24:30Speaker 7: not gonna be like I'll call you later because I'm
- 24:32Speaker 7: feeling like this is a setup right here. As soon
- 24:34Speaker 7: as you text me this, I'm gonna feel a little
- 24:36Speaker 7: and nobody's just gonna respond.
- 24:37Speaker 9: I'll call you that.
- 24:37Speaker 7: He can be like, what the hell are you talking about?
- 24:39Speaker 7: We both agree to that, you know, like, but this
- 24:41Speaker 7: is part of the game. Like nobody's gonna respond with that,
- 24:43Speaker 7: which scares me. But like charlotmade said, shut the f up,
- 24:46Speaker 7: let it. Let the facts play out in court, because
- 24:48Speaker 7: right now all this talking is doing too much.
- 24:50Speaker 6: Audio and it's making it worse.
- 24:54Speaker 2: You're manipulating me. Like even that would have been like, oh, nah, okay,
- 24:57Speaker 2: I see what this is. You know what I'm saying.
- 25:00Speaker 9: But wouldn't you have.
- 25:00Speaker 7: Changed that right from the door? Yeah, Like what are
- 25:02Speaker 7: you talking about? Like no, no, no, like, like, let's
- 25:04Speaker 7: not pleas can were you taping me? Because last night
- 25:06Speaker 7: we was good with this, Like my opinion.
- 25:09Speaker 4: Well, his attorney is saying that these text messages all
- 25:11Speaker 4: only show that the woman in question likes and asks
- 25:15Speaker 4: for fantasy role playing in other forms of unusual sexual behavior,
- 25:20Speaker 4: and they shut down the idea that you know, they're
- 25:22Speaker 4: still denying any sexual sort allegations or anything that nature.
- 25:27Speaker 4: I did reach out to Attorney Busby though, because that
- 25:28Speaker 4: audio we listened to it wasn't in full. It was
- 25:30Speaker 4: like a minute, a little bit over a minute. I'm like, yo,
- 25:32Speaker 4: why would you only release that? And he said to me,
- 25:36Speaker 4: he said, I'm not trying this case in the press.
- 25:38Speaker 4: We released this only because Shannon Sharp's lawyer chose to
- 25:40Speaker 4: attempt to discredit in docs Jane Doe by releasing multiple
- 25:43Speaker 4: texts with no contexts. Did they release the entirety of
- 25:46Speaker 4: the text surrounding the ones from yesterday, which were the
- 25:48Speaker 4: original text in his In Shannon Sharp's statement, the audio
- 25:51Speaker 4: is very clear of the situation.
- 25:52Speaker 2: It speaks for itself.
- 25:53Speaker 8: So I know one thing, if you're fifty four, you
- 25:55Speaker 8: have no reason to be talking to a nineteen year old.
- 25:57Speaker 8: She's twenty two. Now Shannon is fifty six. I'm so
- 25:59Speaker 8: glad that audio monique went viral yesterday because it's true
- 26:03Speaker 8: sit your old down and go find somebody your age
- 26:08Speaker 8: and build a family with them. As I said yesterday, men,
- 26:11Speaker 8: we need stability and we need D discipline, Right.
- 26:14Speaker 6: You gotta have D discipline.
- 26:16Speaker 7: But if he does not want because some people don't
- 26:18Speaker 7: want families, they're not built for that, just try somebody
- 26:21Speaker 7: in age bracket.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Yes, that's it, because he apparently he already tried that,
- 26:25Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the family thing or whatever.
- 26:27Speaker 2: But yeah, he just needs somebody his age.
- 26:29Speaker 6: Has she seen all seasons of a wire?
- 26:31Speaker 2: Excuse me?
- 26:33Speaker 3: She didn't.
- 26:33Speaker 6: Does she know any scarface albums?
- 26:36Speaker 9: You don't even know what the hell it is? What
- 26:39Speaker 9: it is mean? She said, what does that even mean?
- 26:41Speaker 13: Like she said that, like that.
- 26:42Speaker 9: Would have made me head up in black ten years
- 26:47Speaker 9: old than me.
- 26:48Speaker 6: I got a six teen yearld daughter. I can't even
- 26:49Speaker 6: imagine having that conversation.
- 26:51Speaker 9: You know what, you know, I have a twenty three
- 26:53Speaker 9: year old daughter.
- 26:54Speaker 6: Like that's crazy.
- 26:55Speaker 7: And this girl looks young, she looks she looks like
- 26:58Speaker 7: she's on campus at University of Miami or like she
- 27:01Speaker 7: looks young young.
- 27:03Speaker 4: Well, we got to wrap up. We did have the
- 27:04Speaker 4: money audio, but we do have to wrap up. So
- 27:07Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, this is all the updates so far
- 27:10Speaker 4: in this situation. And I will say too, they said
- 27:12Speaker 4: that they were surprised that they were in the middle
- 27:14Speaker 4: of the mediation and then the lawsuit dropped, So I
- 27:16Speaker 4: don't know if that's why they're responding so frantically and
- 27:18Speaker 4: not making sense about their responses.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Yeah, so any.
- 27:22Speaker 7: Conclusion and middle of mediation to put out a press
- 27:25Speaker 7: release that ye're looking to sign a deal for one
- 27:27Speaker 7: hundred million dollars, but not because if I'm in the
- 27:30Speaker 7: middle of mediation, I hear you about to sign a
- 27:32Speaker 7: one hundred million dollars deal.
- 27:33Speaker 9: What are you gonna do?
- 27:33Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna pull out and wait for you get
- 27:35Speaker 3: that deal, and I'm gonna ask for more money.
- 27:36Speaker 8: If that's the case, I have not seen a team
- 27:39Speaker 8: handle something so poorly in a long time.
- 27:41Speaker 6: The wish Shannon and his team are hands crazy.
- 27:44Speaker 7: All right, All right, well, thank you for the ladies
- 27:47Speaker 7: with Laura. Now when we come back, we got front
- 27:49Speaker 7: page news. Mimi will be joining us, Morgan's out, and
- 27:52Speaker 7: then we have Deffie Brown joining us.
- 27:54Speaker 6: It's the breakfast Club.
- 27:54Speaker 9: Good morning, You're checking out the Breakfast Club.
- 27:58Speaker 3: Everybody's teach Envy just hilarious.
- 28:01Speaker 7: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club. Let's get
- 28:04Speaker 7: in some front page news. Got up with some quick sports.
- 28:07Speaker 7: Lacers beat the timber Wolves. He tied the series last night,
- 28:09Speaker 7: ninety four eighty five. That then to beat the Grizzlies
- 28:11Speaker 7: win eighteen ninety nine. They lead the series to nothing,
- 28:14Speaker 7: and the Paces beat the Bucks. They lead that series
- 28:16Speaker 7: to nothing.
- 28:18Speaker 6: What's up to me?
- 28:19Speaker 10: What's up y'all?
- 28:20Speaker 11: All right, well, let's start in Florida where GOP rep
- 28:23Speaker 11: Byron Donald's got an earful at a town hall earlier
- 28:26Speaker 11: this week. The crowd wasn't shy about pressing him on
- 28:29Speaker 11: the Trump administration and its controversial plans for the.
- 28:32Speaker 10: Department of Government efficiency.
- 28:34Speaker 11: He was asked, as a member of the Oversight Committee,
- 28:37Speaker 11: what oversights was he proposing on Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
- 28:42Speaker 10: Let's hear what he had to say.
- 28:43Speaker 9: I love how everybody shouting at meat.
- 28:45Speaker 6: The black guy on Stags with Michael Bonner said saying,
- 28:47Speaker 6: how do.
- 28:47Speaker 13: You reading this day?
- 28:50Speaker 5: Don't wife?
- 28:51Speaker 9: And what I don't do that? Don't Mark, don't do that?
- 28:59Speaker 13: Buns.
- 29:02Speaker 11: So that was his response to the crowd asked him
- 29:06Speaker 11: about Dee I and about his pushback.
- 29:08Speaker 10: So he pushed back and told.
- 29:09Speaker 11: The crowd that as a black man, don't talk to
- 29:11Speaker 11: him about diversity, equity, and inclusion. But then when he
- 29:15Speaker 11: was he was talking about Elon Musk and Donald Trump,
- 29:18Speaker 11: the crowd had some booze and some other things.
- 29:20Speaker 10: So let's hear what he had to say about that.
- 29:22Speaker 6: The direction of the President of the United States.
- 29:26Speaker 16: If you were talking about what Overside is doing, we
- 29:29Speaker 16: actually left the Those.
- 29:32Speaker 13: Committee.
- 29:32Speaker 3: The Those Department actually finishes work.
- 29:36Speaker 13: What they are examining right now is an deficiency in
- 29:38Speaker 13: a federal assistant. This is something that President we wanted
- 29:42Speaker 13: to do with President.
- 29:49Speaker 10: So therefore he was not The crowd wasn't happy during
- 29:52Speaker 10: this town hall. They were trying to get Byron.
- 29:54Speaker 11: To answer questions about Doge, about the Trump administration, and
- 29:59Speaker 11: the crowd in Florida, of all places, they really gave
- 30:02Speaker 11: him a hard time. Dozens of people left after voicing
- 30:04Speaker 11: their frustration with his answer. Now, Donald's is also running
- 30:08Speaker 11: for governor of Florida in next year's election.
- 30:12Speaker 8: Listen, maybe people are out here hurting. So if the
- 30:15Speaker 8: economy is bad, people are gonna be mad. And if
- 30:17Speaker 8: you voted for Trump or you endorsed Trump. Like you know,
- 30:20Speaker 8: Byron Donalds did, people are going to hold you accountable
- 30:23Speaker 8: like that pain they're feeling in their pocket. They're gonna
- 30:25Speaker 8: project that pain onto you.
- 30:26Speaker 9: So you got it.
- 30:26Speaker 6: You know, Byron got to stay in ten told now
- 30:28Speaker 6: on his decision.
- 30:30Speaker 10: And he's the face of it right now. So if
- 30:31Speaker 10: you're holding a town meeting, you are the face of
- 30:33Speaker 10: their frustration.
- 30:34Speaker 11: So and speaking of abdulgent Elon Musk, Elon Mus said
- 30:39Speaker 11: he will take a step back from his work as
- 30:41Speaker 11: leader of the Department of Government Efficiency.
- 30:43Speaker 10: He made the announcement on a call with investors yesterday.
- 30:46Speaker 11: He said he will continue to spend a day or
- 30:48Speaker 11: two per week on government issues for as long as
- 30:51Speaker 11: the president will have him.
- 30:53Speaker 10: But this announcement comes after a tough year for Tesla.
- 30:56Speaker 11: The company's stock is down forty percent this year, and
- 30:59Speaker 11: earlier this week, it warned investors about the biggest drop
- 31:03Speaker 11: in sales history revenue for the first quarter, it fell
- 31:06Speaker 11: seventy one percent compared to the same time of last year.
- 31:10Speaker 6: I wonder if that's gonna I don't think that's gonna
- 31:12Speaker 6: work for Elon.
- 31:12Speaker 8: And the reason I don't think that's gonna work for
- 31:14Speaker 8: Elon is because he has chosen a side.
- 31:17Speaker 6: He's chosen a political worldview.
- 31:20Speaker 8: So the only thing, only way I think it's gonna
- 31:22Speaker 8: work for Testla if he steps down.
- 31:23Speaker 6: Period.
- 31:24Speaker 7: Definitely, he's definitely going have to step downcause people don't
- 31:26Speaker 7: want to drive Teslas anymore, and not necessarily because it's
- 31:28Speaker 7: not a good call, because it's actually a really good vehicle.
- 31:30Speaker 6: Because of Elon and his politics.
- 31:32Speaker 7: But not only that, but when I'm driving around the
- 31:33Speaker 7: city and people are smearing dog poop on your car,
- 31:36Speaker 7: or it's because politics, they're giving your middle fingers, they're
- 31:39Speaker 7: flattening your tires.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Do you want to deal with because of and his politics?
- 31:42Speaker 3: So it's like, no, I don't want to deal with it.
- 31:44Speaker 7: So I'm not gonna buy a Tesla When you got
- 31:46Speaker 7: people that's that's protesting outside of teslas, I don't want
- 31:49Speaker 7: to pull up there. If I drive one, I know
- 31:51Speaker 7: I'm gonna face consequences if I leave it on the street.
- 31:53Speaker 8: We've loft this job because of els went in there
- 31:56Speaker 8: and slashed all those federal jobs. So when they see
- 31:58Speaker 8: those Teslas, the same thing with bids that Tesla represents,
- 32:02Speaker 8: Elon must correct so yes, the Elon Muskin is politics.
- 32:05Speaker 8: The only way things going to bounce back to the
- 32:06Speaker 8: Tesla is if Elon must steps down to CEO.
- 32:08Speaker 6: Agree with Teria.
- 32:09Speaker 5: All right?
- 32:10Speaker 11: So President Trump's hiss approval rating it is dipping. It
- 32:13Speaker 11: is at forty two percent, which is the lowest since
- 32:15Speaker 11: he has returned to office.
- 32:17Speaker 9: Now.
- 32:17Speaker 10: This is according to a new Reuter's pull.
- 32:19Speaker 11: The drop comes after more Americans express concern over his
- 32:22Speaker 11: efforts to expand his presidential power, and the poll found
- 32:26Speaker 11: discomfort with Trump's push to punish liberal universities, his attempt
- 32:30Speaker 11: to appoint himself board of the chair of the Kennedy
- 32:33Speaker 11: Senator Now a large majority eighty three percent said the
- 32:37Speaker 11: president must follow federal court rulings even if he disagrees
- 32:40Speaker 11: with them. Fifty seven percent said it's not okay to
- 32:43Speaker 11: withhold federal funding based on political views, including that includes
- 32:48Speaker 11: one third of Republicans. Now, his approval rating was underwater
- 32:51Speaker 11: nearly in every issue, including immigration and faith, inflation, and
- 32:55Speaker 11: the rule of law.
- 32:57Speaker 10: Three out of four respondents said Trump should not seek
- 33:00Speaker 10: a third term.
- 33:01Speaker 11: Something that is that the constitution bars, but he's been
- 33:04Speaker 11: floating anyway, and even among Republicans fifty three percent say
- 33:08Speaker 11: no to a third term, and fifty nine percent of
- 33:11Speaker 11: Americans say that we are losing credibility on the global
- 33:16Speaker 11: under global under his leadership on the global.
- 33:18Speaker 8: Economy, and it hasn't been one hundred days. Listen, you
- 33:21Speaker 8: can't have a bad economy and authoritarian rule.
- 33:23Speaker 6: Okay. If the economy was woman, people might let you
- 33:26Speaker 6: get the authoritarian rule.
- 33:28Speaker 9: Oh okay, but you can't have both.
- 33:30Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 33:30Speaker 10: So that is your front page news.
- 33:33Speaker 11: I'm me Me Brown, follow me on social at Memi
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- 33:44Speaker 6: I saw you on TV A something me me what
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- 34:12Speaker 6: Okay, thank you.
- 34:15Speaker 10: I'm back on Friday.
- 34:16Speaker 5: I'll be back Friday.
- 34:17Speaker 7: Okay, every right, everybody else, Debbie Brown will be joining us.
- 34:23Speaker 7: She has a new book, A Living in Wisdom, A Path.
- 34:25Speaker 8: To Embodying your authentic self, embracing grief and developing self mastery.
- 34:29Speaker 7: Out right now, it's a Debbie Brown. When we come back,
- 34:32Speaker 7: it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning
- 34:37Speaker 7: everybody you seej Envy, Jess, Hilarious, Charlamagne to gud.
- 34:41Speaker 6: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
- 34:44Speaker 6: in the building.
- 34:45Speaker 8: My good sister, longtime friend, Debbie.
- 34:47Speaker 3: Brown is back here.
- 34:48Speaker 9: Good morning, the morning y'all.
- 34:51Speaker 6: Oh my god, how you feel on book publishing day?
- 34:55Speaker 6: I feel free?
- 34:57Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel so free. I've had a lot of
- 34:59Speaker 5: anxiety for the last few weeks. Wow, I know what's
- 35:03Speaker 5: like you know that creative birthing and like there's a
- 35:05Speaker 5: lot of like vulnerable stories in it, and you're like,
- 35:08Speaker 5: did I do that? Should I have done this? But yeah,
- 35:11Speaker 5: now I just feel free. It's here, it's done. I'm
- 35:13Speaker 5: proud of it. I feel great.
- 35:15Speaker 8: Living in Wisdom A Path to embodying your authentic self,
- 35:18Speaker 8: embracing grief and developing self mastery.
- 35:21Speaker 5: Tell us about that title, being a healer, being someone
- 35:25Speaker 5: that has been on their own spiritual journey for decades,
- 35:28Speaker 5: and being a teacher. I found that, you know, those
- 35:31Speaker 5: are the three things that really give you a feeling
- 35:35Speaker 5: of a well lived life. You know, when we're looking
- 35:38Speaker 5: for healing, or when we're looking for self actualization or
- 35:41Speaker 5: self awareness, all the things whatever we're looking for when
- 35:44Speaker 5: it comes time to grow, it's like, ultimately we're looking
- 35:47Speaker 5: to be the embodiment of our authentic self, to get
- 35:49Speaker 5: past the performance of like who we say we are
- 35:52Speaker 5: and actually get to the core. And then all of
- 35:55Speaker 5: being alive is to have grief a part of that.
- 35:58Speaker 5: You know, every day there grief, and whether it's losing someone,
- 36:02Speaker 5: which I'm sure all of us have or will because
- 36:05Speaker 5: that's what it is to be here, or it's you know,
- 36:07Speaker 5: the daily grief of bearing witness to everything that's happening.
- 36:11Speaker 5: Finding a way to embrace that grief is a part
- 36:14Speaker 5: of what it is to be human is I think
- 36:16Speaker 5: a really powerful shift in our growth and then walking
- 36:19Speaker 5: a path of self mastery, like looking to always not
- 36:23Speaker 5: necessarily like be better or prove things, but to just
- 36:27Speaker 5: deepen in what you already are, like Mastery isn't perfection.
- 36:31Speaker 5: Mastery is like the slow process of excellence of self,
- 36:37Speaker 5: you know, and only we kind of know what that
- 36:39Speaker 5: process is inside.
- 36:40Speaker 7: I want to go back for people that don't know
- 36:42Speaker 7: Debbie's been here a long time ago. But for people
- 36:45Speaker 7: that don't know who Debbie Brown is, I want to
- 36:47Speaker 7: start from the beginning. If you don't know, Debbie was
- 36:49Speaker 7: a successful radio personality, one of the media personalities, and
- 36:53Speaker 7: at the top of her game decided she didn't want
- 36:55Speaker 7: to do it anymore. It wasn't like she was pushed out.
- 36:57Speaker 7: It wasn't like she had bad ratings. She just said,
- 36:59Speaker 7: you know what, I don't want to do it anymore.
- 37:01Speaker 3: Top of a game.
- 37:02Speaker 7: Uh, And then she started going on this healing journey
- 37:05Speaker 7: that Debbie was out in the clubs. She might have
- 37:08Speaker 7: got into a brawl tool, but we're not going to
- 37:10Speaker 7: go there. I'm talking about no idea Debbie Brown, and
- 37:18Speaker 7: I don't unders.
- 37:18Speaker 6: That it was done.
- 37:19Speaker 7: It was just this is a healing journey. So I
- 37:20Speaker 7: want to a rebirth of rebirth. I want to go
- 37:23Speaker 7: to for people that don't know what made you say,
- 37:25Speaker 7: you know what? This industry is not for me. I
- 37:27Speaker 7: want to give this up. You were doing radio, you
- 37:29Speaker 7: were doing different markets, you just had a baby and
- 37:32Speaker 7: just said it's.
- 37:33Speaker 2: At the top of your game. How did you go
- 37:35Speaker 2: from a woman in radio to just like, no, I'm
- 37:36Speaker 2: done with it.
- 37:37Speaker 5: First of all, I just have to say, and y'all
- 37:39Speaker 5: know this, Like, to me, radio is one of the
- 37:41Speaker 5: most incredible sacred ways to broadcast, because like you're really
- 37:45Speaker 5: in someone's head and body when you talk right like
- 37:48Speaker 5: they connect to you with their whole being. It's I've
- 37:51Speaker 5: always found it to be like a sacred responsibility that
- 37:53Speaker 5: makes you good at like everything else. I realized that
- 37:58Speaker 5: my purpose was evolving, and I realized that a lot
- 38:01Speaker 5: of the skills that I was amassing, like communication, connecting
- 38:05Speaker 5: with people, building community, I just kept getting very very
- 38:09Speaker 5: clear direction from God that I was meant to do
- 38:11Speaker 5: it differently and use it differently. And I felt like
- 38:15Speaker 5: I personally was going through so much Like while I
- 38:18Speaker 5: was still on the radio for many years, I was
- 38:21Speaker 5: like kind of secretly quietly getting certifications and like meditation
- 38:25Speaker 5: and breath work and spiritual psychology, like it was such
- 38:28Speaker 5: a huge part of my off the air life. And
- 38:31Speaker 5: I felt like, at least at that time because I
- 38:33Speaker 5: left the industry maybe almost ten years ago. At that time,
- 38:37Speaker 5: there was no blending of the two, you know, And
- 38:39Speaker 5: I was having situations where I was having wanting to
- 38:42Speaker 5: have these deeper layered conversations, and you know, I was
- 38:46Speaker 5: being told by the people I worked with, like, no
- 38:48Speaker 5: one wants to hear that. Like now we can't run
- 38:50Speaker 5: that on the air, Like ask more questions about dating,
- 38:54Speaker 5: ask questions about beef fast, you know, and for whatever reasons,
- 38:59Speaker 5: it's like what I had to give and what I
- 39:01Speaker 5: felt God wanted me to give, it was not valued
- 39:05Speaker 5: at the time.
- 39:05Speaker 7: But you're so ahead of your time and now it's okay.
- 39:08Speaker 7: Now people are vulnerable. Would you see yourself coming back
- 39:11Speaker 7: to doing radio. I love radio because you were so
- 39:15Speaker 7: ahead of your time. Now we have those conversations and
- 39:17Speaker 7: it's not even the thing we talk about that people
- 39:18Speaker 7: are vulnerable.
- 39:19Speaker 3: It seems normal almost.
- 39:20Speaker 6: She got the Deeply Well podcast.
- 39:22Speaker 5: Yeah, Black Effect Network.
- 39:24Speaker 13: Yes.
- 39:24Speaker 8: And you know the interesting thing about Dev and I
- 39:25Speaker 8: want people to notice, like I met Dev and I
- 39:27Speaker 8: think O seven oh seven O eight the person Dev
- 39:32Speaker 8: is now she's always been. This is just to me
- 39:35Speaker 8: an evolution of who you've always been. You've always been
- 39:39Speaker 8: the same one in the room, you know, the one
- 39:43Speaker 8: in the room that people can go to for sound advice,
- 39:46Speaker 8: the leader in the room saying, hey, let's go do this.
- 39:49Speaker 6: We should be doing this. Like I've always felt that
- 39:51Speaker 6: in you. I've always seen that.
- 39:53Speaker 2: Why you don't work here if you have order? She
- 39:58Speaker 2: was swayst co host for Oh No, I'm saying why
- 40:01Speaker 2: she don't work here at Fair east Side.
- 40:03Speaker 6: iHeart dog.
- 40:08Speaker 5: Y'all when it comes to healing the way y'all have
- 40:11Speaker 5: been healing in this room, I am just so impressed
- 40:14Speaker 5: and inspired. There have been some beautiful, transparent conversations.
- 40:19Speaker 8: Yeah, but you I love the chapter fifteen because we're
- 40:22Speaker 8: talking about that in a way healing accept.
- 40:24Speaker 6: Yeah, talk why that's important that you have to healing
- 40:27Speaker 6: and accept.
- 40:28Speaker 5: You know, this is the thing about healing, right. And
- 40:30Speaker 5: I've worked in wellness and well being for over a
- 40:33Speaker 5: decade now, and I work with clients directly, I do workshops,
- 40:37Speaker 5: I run retreats. I've had a lot of access to
- 40:40Speaker 5: studies and data all around healing, around trauma, around all
- 40:44Speaker 5: of it. And I found, you know, from my own
- 40:46Speaker 5: journey and with others, it's like there's this misconception that
- 40:50Speaker 5: you work on yourself to eventually be rid of everything
- 40:54Speaker 5: that's ever happened to you, and that then your life
- 40:56Speaker 5: will be perfect. That you'll go to therapy, that you'll
- 40:58Speaker 5: do somatic exercises, that you'll meditate, and then one day
- 41:01Speaker 5: you're going to just like everything in life is going
- 41:03Speaker 5: to feel so happy. That's not God's design, right, Like,
- 41:07Speaker 5: no feeling is more holy than the other. God wants
- 41:11Speaker 5: us to know and experience and feel in real time
- 41:15Speaker 5: everything that crosses our path. And that means grief, that
- 41:18Speaker 5: means joy, that means you know, jealousy sometimes anger that
- 41:22Speaker 5: means fear. It's like all of it is part of
- 41:25Speaker 5: the human experience, and so when it comes to healing
- 41:29Speaker 5: a huge part of it is also accepting that the
- 41:32Speaker 5: past can't change. For some of us, that can feel heartbreaking, right,
- 41:37Speaker 5: Like a lot of things have happened to so many
- 41:40Speaker 5: of us, so hundreds of millions in your life that
- 41:43Speaker 5: didn't get your consent. Maybe that you've never uttered aloud,
- 41:46Speaker 5: you know. Sometimes we carry things and we're thinking about
- 41:50Speaker 5: and ruminating and thought our whole life about the things
- 41:54Speaker 5: that have hurt us. And I think it's important for
- 41:57Speaker 5: people to know. It doesn't mean you're broken or deficient
- 41:59Speaker 5: or not healed because you still remember those things. It's
- 42:04Speaker 5: really about changing the way you relate to them. Some
- 42:07Speaker 5: things will absolutely never change, but when heal, it really
- 42:11Speaker 5: gets transmitted into wisdom where it doesn't feel like this hard, full,
- 42:16Speaker 5: painful charge inside of your body. Every time that memory
- 42:19Speaker 5: comes up, you're able to kind of look at it
- 42:21Speaker 5: from an observer's standpoint and be like, that happened, and
- 42:24Speaker 5: that really hurt, and God, that was hard. And I
- 42:28Speaker 5: have respect for what I've been through. I have self
- 42:31Speaker 5: respect for who I am and what I've moved myself through.
- 42:35Speaker 3: Hi, we got more with Debbie Brown when we come back.
- 42:37Speaker 7: Her new book, A Living in Wisdom, A Path to
- 42:40Speaker 7: Embodying your authentic Self, embracing grief and developing self mastery,
- 42:44Speaker 7: is out right now.
- 42:44Speaker 3: We have more of home when we come back. It's
- 42:46Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody.
- 42:48Speaker 7: It's DJ Envy, just hilarious, Charlamagne, Na, God we are
- 42:51Speaker 7: The Breakfast Club is still kicking it with Debbie Brown.
- 42:54Speaker 3: Now, when you talk about working on yourself, what does
- 42:56Speaker 3: that mean for people?
- 42:57Speaker 6: Right?
- 42:57Speaker 7: When people SA need to work on myself and then
- 42:59Speaker 7: they come back ten hours later. I worked on myself.
- 43:01Speaker 9: I'm healed.
- 43:02Speaker 3: I'm healing. So what does so for somebody out there
- 43:05Speaker 3: that says, you know, I need to work on myself,
- 43:07Speaker 3: what does that mean?
- 43:08Speaker 5: God, that's such a good question. And like that I'm
- 43:10Speaker 5: healed thing is so funny to me because people will
- 43:14Speaker 5: go to one therapy session and be like, Oh, I
- 43:16Speaker 5: did it, and it's like, actually, it takes eight to
- 43:18Speaker 5: twelve therapy sessions to have like a real you know,
- 43:21Speaker 5: cognitive breakthrough, or you know, you read one book and
- 43:25Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, yeah, I do this because this happened
- 43:27Speaker 5: to me and that's who I am. I think that's
- 43:30Speaker 5: self awareness. But when you're looking to work on yourself
- 43:34Speaker 5: to transcend your experiences, there's a difference. Like Instagram has
- 43:38Speaker 5: given us so much language, a lot of people are
- 43:41Speaker 5: using it to manipulate.
- 43:43Speaker 15: Now.
- 43:43Speaker 3: I hate the language when it's used the wrong way.
- 43:45Speaker 2: I hate it.
- 43:46Speaker 3: I know, like it bothers the ish out of me.
- 43:48Speaker 5: Yeah, it drives me nuts because it's dangerous. Like to
- 43:50Speaker 5: be clear, it's dangerous people using certain mental health language
- 43:54Speaker 5: that haven't done the work, that don't know the work.
- 43:56Speaker 5: It's a manipulation tactic. It can be very harmful for people,
- 44:00Speaker 5: can be very narcissistic. None of those things are like devoid.
- 44:04Speaker 5: In the spiritual or the mental health space, all that
- 44:07Speaker 5: same stuff still exists. But when it comes to like
- 44:09Speaker 5: working on yourself, I think at the base level, it's
- 44:12Speaker 5: noticing how do you feel when it's just you with you,
- 44:16Speaker 5: If there is anything inside of you that feels unmet, unexpressed, unheard,
- 44:21Speaker 5: If there's anything inside of you where you feel anxiety,
- 44:24Speaker 5: there is a charge in your chest, or there is
- 44:26Speaker 5: a rejection or a cringe. Those are things to notice
- 44:30Speaker 5: because it's information that maybe something wants to rise to
- 44:33Speaker 5: the surface for your review. And I think when we're
- 44:36Speaker 5: working on ourselves, it's really about being willing to look
- 44:39Speaker 5: at the truth.
- 44:40Speaker 16: Of what is.
- 44:41Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be perceived as positive or negative,
- 44:44Speaker 5: it's just what is true right now, and then being
- 44:47Speaker 5: honest with yourself about it.
- 44:49Speaker 7: Well, talk about some of the mental health and mental
- 44:52Speaker 7: health things that you've been talking about that I feel
- 44:54Speaker 7: have been commercialized to a point where people are using
- 44:56Speaker 7: these terms but they don't really mean it right, So.
- 44:59Speaker 6: Talk about that a little about to make dev go off?
- 45:01Speaker 7: Now, Yeah, no, I want to talk about it, you know,
- 45:03Speaker 7: because it really bothers me because I hear people using
- 45:05Speaker 7: these terms, and I'm sure they don't even know what
- 45:06Speaker 7: these terms mean, right, Like you say, somebody, you just
- 45:08Speaker 7: gas lit me, And I feel like sometimes it actually
- 45:11Speaker 7: stops a conversation because sometimes when people hear those words,
- 45:14Speaker 7: they automatically say, oh, I ain't that I'm not talking
- 45:17Speaker 7: about that, especially in a workplace where you can't have
- 45:19Speaker 7: a normal conversation if somebody says something, because now when
- 45:22Speaker 7: you hear those terms, that also comes after human resources,
- 45:24Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
- 45:25Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, I mean there's just so much, and I
- 45:28Speaker 5: think people should really do like a lot of deeper
- 45:31Speaker 5: layers of research, right Like I think the Internet is
- 45:34Speaker 5: phenomenal in that the last five years, our consciousness has
- 45:38Speaker 5: raised so much since the pandemic because we have had
- 45:41Speaker 5: access to understand Hey, a lot of people have experienced trauma,
- 45:45Speaker 5: or a lot of people have experienced life frictions or
- 45:48Speaker 5: you know, deeply challenging relationships. But everyone is stopping at
- 45:52Speaker 5: like one graphic, right Like they're stopping at reading one
- 45:56Speaker 5: thing or asking chat GPT one question and then they
- 46:00Speaker 5: leave it there, you know, and it's like, so I
- 46:03Speaker 5: think a lot of terms like understanding, like a lot
- 46:06Speaker 5: of people are overusing the term like narcissist or narcissism right,
- 46:10Speaker 5: not getting your way with someone or someone kind of
- 46:13Speaker 5: even being self focused, Like every single person alive has
- 46:17Speaker 5: some layer of narcissistic behavior. That's part of like the
- 46:20Speaker 5: human expression too, it's some self focus. But narcissistic abuse
- 46:25Speaker 5: is something entirely different. And those that have experienced understand,
- 46:29Speaker 5: like you get CPTSD from it, You get PTSD from it,
- 46:33Speaker 5: you have changes in your body, your health decreases, like
- 46:37Speaker 5: it is a psychological warfare that is insidious and can
- 46:42Speaker 5: dramatically change the trajectory of your life. Now, if that
- 46:46Speaker 5: level of feeling isn't really happening to you, it may
- 46:49Speaker 5: not be narcissistic abuse, you know. And so I think
- 46:51Speaker 5: we just need to go deeper into the layers of
- 46:54Speaker 5: the things that we're learning. And I will say people
- 46:57Speaker 5: that misuse language or use it as tools of avoidance
- 47:01Speaker 5: typically those are the people that usually are on the
- 47:04Speaker 5: other side and fit the other kind of definitions for
- 47:07Speaker 5: those things.
- 47:08Speaker 8: One thing you told me one time that makes so
- 47:11Speaker 8: much sense, And I love the fact that you give
- 47:13Speaker 8: so many actual examples of how to.
- 47:15Speaker 6: Do it in the book.
- 47:16Speaker 8: You told me that when it comes to the language,
- 47:18Speaker 8: you can have the language and know what it is
- 47:20Speaker 8: you're dealing with. But a lot of people avoid the
- 47:23Speaker 8: actual healing, the healing work. So if you read the book,
- 47:26Speaker 8: there's a lot of different exercises that can walk you
- 47:29Speaker 8: through that actual healing process.
- 47:31Speaker 6: Why do you think, you know, people forget the healing
- 47:33Speaker 6: part once.
- 47:34Speaker 5: They go to therapy because it's hard, you know, And
- 47:36Speaker 5: I think it and that's the thing that I really
- 47:39Speaker 5: speak to very clearly in my book. It's like, all
- 47:42Speaker 5: of this is hard. There is no tip or trick
- 47:45Speaker 5: to heal from challenging experiences, right, Like, I'm not going
- 47:49Speaker 5: to tell you, all right, do this five minutes every day. Yes,
- 47:52Speaker 5: five minutes every day will build your capacity, but you
- 47:55Speaker 5: need to stretch past the five minutes to devote actual
- 47:58Speaker 5: real time to the changes you want to see in
- 48:01Speaker 5: your life. And so, you know, something I talk about
- 48:04Speaker 5: in the book is like, there's a huge difference between
- 48:07Speaker 5: having self awareness and having higher consciousness or being embodied
- 48:12Speaker 5: in your self awareness. Self awareness is having the terms.
- 48:16Speaker 5: It's going to a couple therapy sessions perhaps or reading
- 48:19Speaker 5: a bunch of self help books and saying like this
- 48:22Speaker 5: is what happened, and this is why I act like this,
- 48:24Speaker 5: and this is why this is this. But it doesn't
- 48:26Speaker 5: mean you're changing any of it, right, Like, it doesn't
- 48:29Speaker 5: mean you're taking it to the next step to behave
- 48:32Speaker 5: differently or to invite in different experiences with people. And
- 48:36Speaker 5: that comes through practice, that comes through process. And so
- 48:41Speaker 5: in this book I talk about a lot like how
- 48:44Speaker 5: to Get out of your Way. A lot of people
- 48:46Speaker 5: have a lot of sophisticated language around avoiding themselves. You
- 48:49Speaker 5: can avoid yourself with anything. You can avoid yourself with therapy.
- 48:53Speaker 5: You're seeing the same therapist for ten years, and nothing
- 48:55Speaker 5: in your life changes what's going on in there, you know,
- 48:59Speaker 5: or you know, I see a lot of people avoid
- 49:01Speaker 5: themselves with religion. You can be a part of a church,
- 49:04Speaker 5: you can go there on Sundays and you can still
- 49:05Speaker 5: not know God, you can still not make better choices. Right.
- 49:09Speaker 5: It is daily practice. It is showing up in your
- 49:12Speaker 5: interpersonal relationships. It is having the hard conversations in real
- 49:16Speaker 5: time as they come up, and just being present with
- 49:19Speaker 5: all of it without expectation. You know, without trying to
- 49:22Speaker 5: control it or make it go your way. And so
- 49:25Speaker 5: in the book, we have a lot of practices like
- 49:27Speaker 5: I teach meditation in the book, we work with mutras
- 49:30Speaker 5: in the book, which are hand positions that can really
- 49:32Speaker 5: elevate your meditation practice because your hand positions open different
- 49:36Speaker 5: energy channels in your body. There is breath work that
- 49:39Speaker 5: can be done in the book, and every single one
- 49:41Speaker 5: of those practices anchors in the changes that you want
- 49:45Speaker 5: to experience because it shows you how to regulate when
- 49:48Speaker 5: you do get triggered, when you do have charge, and
- 49:51Speaker 5: so both are needed. You have to have the cognitive
- 49:53Speaker 5: and you have to have the somatic. You have to
- 49:56Speaker 5: have the spiritual, you have to have the physical. All
- 49:59Speaker 5: of it kind of beautiful goes together.
- 50:01Speaker 3: Hi, We have more with dev Brown when we come back.
- 50:03Speaker 7: A new book, Living in Wisdom, a Path to embody
- 50:06Speaker 7: and your authentic self, embracing grief and developing self mastery
- 50:10Speaker 7: is out right now.
- 50:10Speaker 6: We'll be back as the Breakfast Club.
- 50:12Speaker 7: Good morning and warning everybody is the ej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne,
- 50:16Speaker 7: the God we are to Breakfast Club is still kicking
- 50:18Speaker 7: it with deVie Brown, Charlamagne.
- 50:20Speaker 6: Why is meditation is so important?
- 50:22Speaker 13: Oh my god?
- 50:23Speaker 5: You know, and I think in some other maybe wisdom traditions,
- 50:27Speaker 5: some people might relate to it if you call it
- 50:29Speaker 5: reflection or if you call it moments for contemplation, But
- 50:32Speaker 5: meditation is the master healer because it gets you out
- 50:35Speaker 5: of your identity. And our identity is almost one hundred
- 50:38Speaker 5: percent made from like all of the culturally created beliefs
- 50:43Speaker 5: that we have, or our beliefs from our family of origin,
- 50:46Speaker 5: or you know, the things that we're influenced by via society.
- 50:49Speaker 5: And so when you're able to get out of all
- 50:51Speaker 5: those extra layers of like what your titles are, you know,
- 50:56Speaker 5: what the role you play. I'm a husband, I'm a wife,
- 50:59Speaker 5: I'm a someone's child, brother, sister, friend. When you take
- 51:02Speaker 5: yourself out of all of that, you actually get to glimpse,
- 51:05Speaker 5: like what am I designed to be? What was God's
- 51:08Speaker 5: intention for me of me before I fit into anybody's
- 51:12Speaker 5: box or any relationship. And so the thing about meditation,
- 51:15Speaker 5: and I really want to share this, you know, I
- 51:18Speaker 5: believe in trauma informed practice, and it's a little bit
- 51:21Speaker 5: different to hold that space within the healing community than
- 51:24Speaker 5: if you're not. It's recognizing that a lot of people
- 51:28Speaker 5: will have barriers to almost every healing modality that comes
- 51:31Speaker 5: up because of some of the things that they may
- 51:34Speaker 5: have experienced. So in meditation, you're going through so many layers,
- 51:37Speaker 5: and the first time you try, the first several times
- 51:40Speaker 5: you try, it could be so hard and frustrating and
- 51:45Speaker 5: anger inducing and irritating to sit down and be still,
- 51:49Speaker 5: and it could bring up everything and make you feel
- 51:51Speaker 5: like you're failing at it, and then you want to
- 51:53Speaker 5: stop and then let me go do things I'm actually
- 51:55Speaker 5: good at.
- 51:56Speaker 13: You know.
- 51:56Speaker 2: That is literally me.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Yeah, that is I feel like I'm missing out on
- 52:00Speaker 1: doing something, or I can be doing this with this time,
- 52:02Speaker 1: or it's not working. It's like, so I grow to
- 52:05Speaker 1: be frustrated when I try to meditate. Man, so I
- 52:08Speaker 1: just need smoking and that. Yeah, well I mean that too.
- 52:11Speaker 5: Smoking to meditate is like a great little collaboration and
- 52:14Speaker 5: yoga and stretching. But I'm so glad you said that
- 52:17Speaker 5: because I think that is almost everyone's response, but especially
- 52:21Speaker 5: if you have been through hard things. And what I
- 52:25Speaker 5: want everyone to know is that phase passes, and that's
- 52:28Speaker 5: part of what doing the work is, right. It's being
- 52:31Speaker 5: patient with yourself and witnessing yourself, especially when you don't
- 52:35Speaker 5: want to do it and it's saying like God, I'm
- 52:37Speaker 5: sitting here and I hate this, this is stupid. I
- 52:41Speaker 5: don't want to do this. Breathe, breathe, Okay, Okay, we'll
- 52:48Speaker 5: release open your body like you start meeting those feelings
- 52:52Speaker 5: with things that harmonize that experience for you. But eventually
- 52:56Speaker 5: the level you're aiming for is like higher and higher consciousness.
- 53:00Speaker 5: Higher consciousness means a greater ability to be what you
- 53:04Speaker 5: are designed to be on earth and to also extend
- 53:09Speaker 5: love and goodwill and compassion and power and influence to
- 53:13Speaker 5: others for the higher good of all concerned.
- 53:16Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 53:16Speaker 8: You also, you dedicated your book and I'm probably gonna
- 53:19Speaker 8: pronounce her name wrong to my Hascal May Haskell May Haskal,
- 53:24Speaker 8: And I didn't know who that was until I went
- 53:26Speaker 8: to go look it up. And she was a young
- 53:28Speaker 8: woman who was dismembered and encino. What made you want
- 53:32Speaker 8: to dedicate the book to her? And you said, I
- 53:35Speaker 8: pray you are free.
- 53:37Speaker 5: I have to be really careful talking about this because
- 53:41Speaker 5: the trial hasn't begun yet.
- 53:43Speaker 6: Gotcha.
- 53:44Speaker 5: She was a beautiful woman. I had the privilege and
- 53:48Speaker 5: the pleasure of meeting when my son started kindergarten and
- 53:52Speaker 5: our boys were friends. And so my son is in
- 53:55Speaker 5: first grade. So this just happened last year. And you know,
- 53:59Speaker 5: I'm sure the parents listening, Like, when your kids are
- 54:01Speaker 5: in kinder like, you're still very connected to the other families,
- 54:05Speaker 5: right because the kids can't communicate on their own, So
- 54:07Speaker 5: you're creating the play dates. You guys are getting together
- 54:10Speaker 5: for all the birthday parties, like you are seeing each
- 54:12Speaker 5: other almost seven days a week. She was the mother
- 54:16Speaker 5: of this sweet, beautiful little boy that was in class
- 54:20Speaker 5: with my son and two other sons. And her husband
- 54:25Speaker 5: is currently incarcerated for allegedly murdering her and her parents.
- 54:32Speaker 5: And her body was completely dismembered. Her head was taken,
- 54:36Speaker 5: her limbs were taken and not recovered. Her parents were dismembered,
- 54:41Speaker 5: and then their bodies were dispersed in the trash cans
- 54:45Speaker 5: in my neighborhood. There are whorors in this world.
- 54:49Speaker 19: You know.
- 54:49Speaker 5: I dedicated my book to her for so many reasons,
- 54:53Speaker 5: but it's really just like if someone takes your whole family,
- 54:56Speaker 5: who remembers you, you know, like I want wanted to
- 55:00Speaker 5: just honor the fact that she was here, that she
- 55:04Speaker 5: was alive, and that I will be thinking about her
- 55:07Speaker 5: every day of my life.
- 55:11Speaker 7: Living in wisdom, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, Debbie Brown is
- 55:13Speaker 7: out today. I got a lot more questions. I just
- 55:15Speaker 7: don't know where I do.
- 55:17Speaker 6: Well, okay, Wosa, Yeah? Does everybody need to have a purpose.
- 55:21Speaker 5: I think everybody does have a purpose. I think what
- 55:24Speaker 5: we get wrong is that purpose has to be quantified
- 55:26Speaker 5: by something, or that it has to make money, you know.
- 55:29Speaker 5: I think, just like so many words are being appropriated
- 55:32Speaker 5: right now within mental health, I think other words are
- 55:35Speaker 5: being used for performance, for really self validation sometimes or ego.
- 55:40Speaker 5: Right like you hear people, well my purpose is this
- 55:43Speaker 5: or you know what's my purpose? And it's just another
- 55:47Speaker 5: thing that you are kind of mispouring yourself into. Purpose,
- 55:51Speaker 5: in my belief, is simply your lived experience and the
- 55:55Speaker 5: wisdom you've bleaned from it. It's the skills you've amassed
- 55:58Speaker 5: in any and everything you could have ever done. It's
- 56:00Speaker 5: your innate gifts, you know, the things that you have
- 56:04Speaker 5: that God gave you, and it's then using it to serve,
- 56:07Speaker 5: putting it back into service for others and so you know,
- 56:10Speaker 5: it's like I could say my purpose is talking, right,
- 56:14Speaker 5: because I was a broadcaster for years, I lead meditation,
- 56:17Speaker 5: I communicate all the things. But really, like I look
- 56:20Speaker 5: at my purpose as like being able to be in
- 56:23Speaker 5: darkness with people. You know, I think my life's greatest
- 56:26Speaker 5: purpose is the fact that, like I'm not afraid of
- 56:29Speaker 5: the dark and I can be in darker moments and
- 56:32Speaker 5: not recoil with other people, that I can hold space
- 56:35Speaker 5: for that. And I think, you know, that may not
- 56:37Speaker 5: be the most glorious purpose. It's not the thing that's
- 56:39Speaker 5: maybe going to land me on a billboard, but it's
- 56:42Speaker 5: the thing that, like God trained me for. It's the
- 56:45Speaker 5: thing that my life has bloomed into.
- 56:47Speaker 18: And I love it.
- 56:48Speaker 6: I love that. I love how you break that down.
- 56:51Speaker 1: And also you spoke to how people over use words
- 56:55Speaker 1: because half the time people don't even know how to
- 56:58Speaker 1: answer that question, well, what is your purpose?
- 56:59Speaker 2: Like me, I still don't know what my purpose is.
- 57:02Speaker 1: I mean, I'm grateful for the woman that I'm becoming
- 57:05Speaker 1: in my spiritual growth and everything, but I still don't
- 57:07Speaker 1: know what my purpose is.
- 57:09Speaker 2: And what if it's not just one thing, you know
- 57:10Speaker 2: what I meaningly.
- 57:11Speaker 5: And that's the thing.
- 57:12Speaker 9: It's not.
- 57:13Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not, you know, and like it's okay.
- 57:16Speaker 5: If finding your purpose takes your whole life, Yes, it's
- 57:18Speaker 5: the point of being alive. Like why do we think
- 57:21Speaker 5: we have to move so quickly through everything? That's the
- 57:24Speaker 5: validation piece, right, Like that's the wanting to be seen
- 57:27Speaker 5: in it or celebrated for it. But like if it's
- 57:30Speaker 5: your life's work, it is supposed to take your whole life.
- 57:34Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
- 57:35Speaker 1: Because my mother in law, my husband's mother, she literally
- 57:40Speaker 1: just told me she just found out where her purpose is,
- 57:42Speaker 1: and that is to take care of like to oversee
- 57:45Speaker 1: her granddaughter. I just gave her a beautiful granddaughter, her
- 57:48Speaker 1: very first grandchild. And that's what she said, holding a
- 57:52Speaker 1: baby like a few months ago. Oh, I know what
- 57:54Speaker 1: my purpose is now is to be here with my
- 57:57Speaker 1: family and to take care of my family. Because she
- 57:59Speaker 1: was living out the country for decades.
- 58:02Speaker 9: That him, that's him. You started.
- 58:08Speaker 2: This moment, don't They're trying to say, I try to
- 58:18Speaker 2: she came, don't have nothing, She came over here to
- 58:23Speaker 2: take care of my child. Every day they joke about
- 58:28Speaker 2: her being Yes, literally, you know.
- 58:35Speaker 5: Man, I understand the friction in this room. I get
- 58:38Speaker 5: like just.
- 58:40Speaker 8: Because living in with them have to Embodying your authentic self,
- 58:46Speaker 8: Embracing grief and developing self mastery available everywhere you buy books.
- 58:50Speaker 6: Now go pick it up. If you love the sound
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- 58:53Speaker 8: If you miss her on the radio, you can go
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- 59:00Speaker 6: iHeartRadio podcast Network.
- 59:01Speaker 9: Dev.
- 59:01Speaker 6: You already know I love you to death.
- 59:03Speaker 5: Thank you three, I love you big fan.
- 59:05Speaker 6: Remember her knocking nobody up? That never happened. We have
- 59:09Speaker 6: to get back to that.
- 59:11Speaker 3: Give each other grace, even the oldest.
- 59:12Speaker 6: It's the breakfast all the versions. Shout out to Debbie
- 59:15Speaker 6: brown Man.
- 59:16Speaker 8: Make sure you're gonna pick up her new book, Living
- 59:18Speaker 8: in Wisdom of Path Embodying your authentic self, Embracing grief
- 59:21Speaker 8: and developing self mastery.
- 59:24Speaker 6: Yes, flu to Debbie. All right, we are the Breakfast Club.
- 59:26Speaker 6: Let's get to the Latest with.
- 59:27Speaker 3: Lauren be coming straight fast.
- 59:31Speaker 9: She gets them from somebody that knows somebody detail.
- 59:35Speaker 2: I'm a home girl that knows a little bit about everything.
- 59:38Speaker 6: She'd be having the latest on you.
- 59:41Speaker 9: The Latest with Laurence La rosa.
- 59:43Speaker 19: Sometimes you have.
- 59:44Speaker 8: Sometimes you have details, sometimes you have a little bit
- 59:46Speaker 8: of every time, it's the latest on the Breakfast Club.
- 59:51Speaker 4: So Mss Tina Knowles revealed and sit down exclusively with
- 59:54Speaker 4: People magazine that she'd actually been battling and she's now
- 59:57Speaker 4: cancer free, stage one breast cancer.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: Let's take a while.
- 1:00:02Speaker 20: I'm doing great, cancer free, feeling great, and just feeling
- 1:00:07Speaker 20: very incredibly blessed that, you know, God allowed me to
- 1:00:12Speaker 20: find that early.
- 1:00:13Speaker 9: Well.
- 1:00:14Speaker 21: I struggle with whether I would share that journey because
- 1:00:17Speaker 21: I'm very private, but I decided to share it because
- 1:00:20Speaker 21: I think it's a lot of lessons in it for
- 1:00:23Speaker 21: other women. I wanted to make sure that they knew
- 1:00:26Speaker 21: how important it is not to slack on your mammograms
- 1:00:29Speaker 21: because you don't have to let this. I mean you,
- 1:00:32Speaker 21: we can ah catch cancer at stage one, it's even
- 1:00:36Speaker 21: stage zero. I didn't know that there was a stage zero.
- 1:00:39Speaker 21: I could have caught this at stage zero if I
- 1:00:41Speaker 21: had not missed my mammogram, but I did because of
- 1:00:45Speaker 21: COVID and as a result, it was stage one.
- 1:00:48Speaker 5: It could have been stage zero.
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: So you have to go get your mammograms.
- 1:00:52Speaker 6: Well, God bless Unless you was able to catch it
- 1:00:54Speaker 6: early man.
- 1:00:54Speaker 7: And I love to hear when when people talk about
- 1:00:57Speaker 7: their journey right, because sometimes people forget or they don't
- 1:00:59Speaker 7: talk about it enough, like, yeah, missed us, but she
- 1:01:01Speaker 7: was able to catch us four years later. Even with
- 1:01:04Speaker 7: Charlemage myself talking about colonoscopies. People need to go to
- 1:01:07Speaker 7: the doctor. You need to get checked out because you
- 1:01:09Speaker 7: need to catch it before it gets worse, you know.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: And I remember there used to be like an age
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: requirement for you used to have to wait to your
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: forty to get a mammogram.
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: Now you can get it like in your twenties.
- 1:01:22Speaker 8: And I'm sure if you've got a history in your family,
- 1:01:24Speaker 8: they probably encourage you to go get it earlier.
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: So I definitely encourage and there's a young woman to
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: get them too.
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: There another way. I thought there was another way of
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: doing a mammogram. I know there's one way.
- 1:01:32Speaker 6: The women actually splashed down. Yeah, but then there's another
- 1:01:35Speaker 6: way to show us you don't even.
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: Have I wish there was another way though, like they
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: didn't have to like they have all the stuff. Yeah,
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: maybe he was holding here.
- 1:01:45Speaker 22: I was.
- 1:01:48Speaker 6: That was awkward, you know, just want to put it
- 1:01:50Speaker 6: in the machine or they keep it all awake when
- 1:01:52Speaker 6: they do that. So it's not like.
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: They said herts is painful her, Yes, it is painful.
- 1:01:58Speaker 6: Did knock you out? You're like, we're awake, but like.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: They like put pressure, they knock you off, put.
- 1:02:04Speaker 6: You to sleep. Lets you unless you want to be awake,
- 1:02:07Speaker 6: have to sleep?
- 1:02:10Speaker 13: Was quick?
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: You know they put you to sleep.
- 1:02:12Speaker 6: You knocked out?
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: Wow, that's over my physical today.
- 1:02:16Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely.
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: I cannot say that.
- 1:02:20Speaker 6: I can say that talking about prostate exams, but you.
- 1:02:23Speaker 9: Can't say that ridiculous. But I'm going today.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: I know you.
- 1:02:35Speaker 9: Just want to be texted.
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: Went through? Why is having to.
- 1:02:43Speaker 9: That's the case?
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: Well, she's so, Miss Sena knows is promoting her book Matriarch,
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: So she has been talking or releasing a lot of
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: the you know, different exscerpts from the book. And in
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: one of the the passages, she actually talks about uh,
- 1:02:58Speaker 4: Beyonce and jay Z and how Beyonce chose to be
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: with jay Z because she says, at the time, Beyonce
- 1:03:04Speaker 4: was actually dating another guy and.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: It was like really serious.
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: But at the same time she had started dating jay
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: Z and Beyonce came to her she was dating she
- 1:03:13Speaker 4: wasn't in a relationship.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: She was just dating. And she came to Messina and.
- 1:03:16Speaker 4: Was like, I don't know what to do because at
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: this point, like the I think both the guys that
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: came into Houston, at one point, she was like, I
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: need to make a decision.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: So Messina was like, well, how do you feel?
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: And she was like, I already knew what was jay
- 1:03:27Speaker 4: Z for her, and when they talked about it, it
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: was him, and that's where she decided to go. And
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: she was like, you know, they were young, just talking
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: on the phone, barely getting to spend time with each other.
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: He would come and do dinner at her house because
- 1:03:36Speaker 4: they couldn't go anywhere for real, and that's how the
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: relationship developed early on. She also talked about y'all remember
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: back in twenty eleven, when Beyonce got pregnant with Blue Ivy.
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: People were saying that she didn't deliver the baby. Yes,
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: Miss Tina for the first.
- 1:03:47Speaker 4: Time talked publicly about how she felt going through all
- 1:03:50Speaker 4: of that because she was told not to say anything.
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: Let's say, listen, I want to talk about saying and
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: the impact I had on a family. He said specifically
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: about just the room.
- 1:04:01Speaker 21: Yeah, what was that like to hear people say the
- 1:04:04Speaker 21: most horrendous things and to call my whole family a lie,
- 1:04:08Speaker 21: you know, because we would all have to be part
- 1:04:11Speaker 21: of that conspiracy and lie about something so sacred it was.
- 1:04:16Speaker 21: It was one of the worst times in my life
- 1:04:18Speaker 21: because I couldn't say anything. My daughter was saying no,
- 1:04:22Speaker 21: because you're just gonna make the story bigger, so don't
- 1:04:25Speaker 21: say anything.
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: It's gonna go away.
- 1:04:26Speaker 21: But it didn't go away for a long time. And
- 1:04:29Speaker 21: it's one of the most painful things for me to
- 1:04:32Speaker 21: know that that people could just be that disgusting and
- 1:04:36Speaker 21: people just get to lie and they don't have to
- 1:04:39Speaker 21: suffer any consequences.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: I knew Beyonce would be telling miss Taining like don't
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: say nothing, but just imagine being the mother having to
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: shut up and sit back and see because, like she said,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: they will all have to be a part of it, right, Yeah,
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: And this is.
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: What this girl wanted. That's what she wanted for a
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: while a long time, and y'all talking about this fate.
- 1:05:01Speaker 4: She also got into details of like Beyonce and Jase's
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: wedding and talked about how they had to do it
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: so private because again they didn't want it to get out,
- 1:05:07Speaker 4: so they literally had to do it inside of a
- 1:05:10Speaker 4: house and Miss Tina and Jay's mom cooked the food.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: Like everything had to be so private, so sacred.
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: She also, for the first time in this book, talks
- 1:05:18Speaker 4: about her split from mister Matthews and let me make
- 1:05:20Speaker 4: sure I get mister in there.
- 1:05:23Speaker 19: Yeah.
- 1:05:23Speaker 4: So she She says that they were married in nineteen
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: eighty divorce in twenty eleven, but it was because he
- 1:05:27Speaker 4: was a really, really horrible cheater. He actually had a
- 1:05:30Speaker 4: baby within their marriage and that was like the last
- 1:05:32Speaker 4: straw fold.
- 1:05:33Speaker 13: Yeah.
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: She said that, like.
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: Two thousand and nine is when he had the baby
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: on her. But before that he would do some crazy
- 1:05:41Speaker 4: things when they came to cheating, and she would take
- 1:05:42Speaker 4: them back every time because she kind of just couldn't
- 1:05:44Speaker 4: let it go. And then when that happened, she was like, Nah,
- 1:05:47Speaker 4: I can't do this, and it actually thought about getting
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: together at some point, but she was like, she knew
- 1:05:50Speaker 4: that the girls would be upset at him.
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: He has other kids outside of Beyonce and Solange. Yeah, no,
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: where that baby, the baby that he had, it's it's uh,
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: it's a boy. I think it's his son.
- 1:06:04Speaker 4: Let me look this up. He has side of Beyonce
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: and Solan. She has Nixon, Alexander Knows and Cooy Michael Knows.
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: So two kids, yes, two sons.
- 1:06:14Speaker 6: You know Tina named Beyonce and Solange because them names
- 1:06:17Speaker 6: sounded regular.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: Regular, right, Okay, yeah, yes, the matriarch is now out ye.
- 1:06:25Speaker 4: And it's all about miss Tina's life and not just
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: Beyonce and Solange and that, but really about her life,
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: her upbringing. She talks about, you know, watching her brother
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: almost get killed by the cops at one point, and
- 1:06:34Speaker 4: just yeah, it's a lot that you learned about her
- 1:06:37Speaker 4: and watching her talk throughout the interviews too.
- 1:06:40Speaker 7: Matthew Knows. Mister Matthew Knows is not doing any interviews
- 1:06:42Speaker 7: anymore because he doesn't like when people talk about his
- 1:06:44Speaker 7: personal life, like they put questions not to ask and
- 1:06:48Speaker 7: how could you not ask these questions.
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: When you know Tina Knowles talks about the Missina Knows.
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: Talks about it and what else is we going to
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: ask you?
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: Well, I interviewed mister Matthew Knows about he He has
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: a cancer company that he works with helps people find
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: like help and aid when you're going through like cancer,
- 1:07:02Speaker 4: and different things, and we had a very great conversation.
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: Beyonce never came up and he was super nice.
- 1:07:07Speaker 6: He wasn't allowed to ask about it.
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: I didn't want to, you know, I.
- 1:07:17Speaker 6: Was waiting.
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all gonna let me just say I did
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: want y'all know I wanted to, but he was.
- 1:07:21Speaker 6: He was bragged about it, like it didn't come up
- 1:07:23Speaker 6: once better not.
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: Happy birthday, John Cena. Get that it's John the birthday.
- 1:07:33Speaker 6: He just broke the record too.
- 1:07:34Speaker 8: He's I think he's he's been w W champion seventeen times,
- 1:07:38Speaker 8: broke Flair's record.
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: Yeap, he follows me on Twitter. Isn't that right?
- 1:07:41Speaker 9: Really?
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: Johnsy Hey, y'all, I know that's right. You're having some
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: of the most random like wait potential no, no, no
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: like that, like what what?
- 1:07:51Speaker 6: Don't get the days up?
- 1:07:52Speaker 13: Next? Right?
- 1:07:52Speaker 3: Yesterday?
- 1:07:53Speaker 6: Who getting down too?
- 1:07:53Speaker 13: Man?
- 1:07:53Speaker 6: Before after that hour? We need the US Apartment of
- 1:07:55Speaker 6: Education to come to the congregation. We'd like to have
- 1:07:57Speaker 6: a word with him.
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: Places all right, we'll get to that next.
- 1:07:59Speaker 6: It's the breakfast club.
- 1:08:01Speaker 9: If you're locked into the breakfast.
- 1:08:03Speaker 22: Club, your execution on the donkey of the day is
- 1:08:06Speaker 22: something to go for the reason they gave me donkey
- 1:08:10Speaker 22: other day and I deserve that.
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: You need to know, you need to tell them, I
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: am you have tell them.
- 1:08:17Speaker 6: It's time for donkey of the day.
- 1:08:19Speaker 9: It's a reed.
- 1:08:20Speaker 6: But you're so good at Charlomagne.
- 1:08:23Speaker 9: Want Charlomage as.
- 1:08:27Speaker 6: Solomame?
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: Who do you give a dusky the other day?
- 1:08:28Speaker 13: Soon?
- 1:08:29Speaker 16: Now?
- 1:08:30Speaker 9: Well?
- 1:08:31Speaker 8: Sexy red donkey today for Wednesday, April twenty third goes
- 1:08:34Speaker 8: to the US Department of Education, who under the Trump
- 1:08:36Speaker 8: administration announced on Monday that they will resume debt collections
- 1:08:41Speaker 8: for federal student law and borrowers who have defaulted on
- 1:08:43Speaker 8: their debts. So millions of borrows are at risk of
- 1:08:46Speaker 8: having federal payments are portions of their salaries without in
- 1:08:49Speaker 8: the coming months because the White House said it can
- 1:08:53Speaker 8: and will take borrowers wages, pensions, and tax refunds.
- 1:08:57Speaker 6: Let's go to KAA NBC five for the report Please.
- 1:09:00Speaker 23: Major whiplash for millions of federal student loan holders. For
- 1:09:04Speaker 23: the first time in five years, the Department of Education
- 1:09:07Speaker 23: will start collecting restart collecting, that is, federal student loans
- 1:09:12Speaker 23: in default. Student loans go into default after two hundred
- 1:09:15Speaker 23: and seventy days without any payment. The Trump administration said
- 1:09:19Speaker 23: in a statement quote, there will not be any mass
- 1:09:23Speaker 23: loan forgiveness.
- 1:09:24Speaker 12: The Trump administration has announced we will put an end
- 1:09:27Speaker 12: to Joe Biden's illegal loan bailout attempts.
- 1:09:30Speaker 23: Loans have been on pause since March of twenty twenty
- 1:09:33Speaker 23: because of COVID nineteen. The Biden and Harris administration even
- 1:09:38Speaker 23: tried to cancel the debts.
- 1:09:40Speaker 6: Of millions of borrowers.
- 1:09:41Speaker 23: Now, the Trump administration says the previous administration did not
- 1:09:46Speaker 23: have authority to cancel that debt, and it will start
- 1:09:50Speaker 23: collections as soon as May.
- 1:09:52Speaker 12: Fifth debt cannot be wiped away. It just ends up
- 1:09:55Speaker 12: getting transferred to others. So why should Americans who didn't
- 1:09:58Speaker 12: go to college or went to college responsibly paid back
- 1:10:01Speaker 12: their loans pay for the student loans of other Americans.
- 1:10:04Speaker 8: I didn't go to college, so I don't have student
- 1:10:06Speaker 8: loan debt, so this won't impact me. But that doesn't
- 1:10:08Speaker 8: mean I'm not gonna care about this, Okay. The reason
- 1:10:10Speaker 8: I care about this is because I care about people,
- 1:10:13Speaker 8: all right.
- 1:10:13Speaker 6: Period. It doesn't matter what your financial situation is.
- 1:10:16Speaker 8: If you live in a country where people are barely
- 1:10:18Speaker 8: getting by, that is not gonna make for a pleasant society.
- 1:10:21Speaker 8: Not to mention, working class people are a benefit to
- 1:10:24Speaker 8: our business. Okay, working class people who are listening to this.
- 1:10:27Speaker 8: They're the ones who listen to the show every day.
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:10:28Speaker 6: They are the people who buy books, they come to
- 1:10:30Speaker 6: the comedy shows.
- 1:10:31Speaker 8: They'll spend their harder money to be at the Black
- 1:10:32Speaker 8: Effect Podcast Festival they Saturday in Atlanta. And every working
- 1:10:36Speaker 8: class person in this country should be able to pay
- 1:10:38Speaker 8: their bills and have a little left over for recreation. Okay,
- 1:10:41Speaker 8: they should have some money for leisure activities. And if
- 1:10:43Speaker 8: you're voted for Donald Trump because he promised to make
- 1:10:46Speaker 8: the economy better.
- 1:10:47Speaker 6: You gotta be scratching your head right now. Okay.
- 1:10:49Speaker 8: Donald Trump said he was gonna make the economy better
- 1:10:51Speaker 8: on day one. What all he's done so far is
- 1:10:54Speaker 8: cut federal programs that benefit working class people, put elon
- 1:10:58Speaker 8: muskin charge.
- 1:10:59Speaker 6: To fire a bunch of federal workers.
- 1:11:01Speaker 8: This half assed trade war that's going on, that's hurting
- 1:11:04Speaker 8: our wallets and four one K plans, and now the
- 1:11:07Speaker 8: White House is bringing more pain than millions of Americans
- 1:11:10Speaker 8: by restarting debt collection for student loan borrowers.
- 1:11:13Speaker 6: Who have fallen into default.
- 1:11:16Speaker 8: I hope that you all realize this is just politicians
- 1:11:19Speaker 8: playing with the lives of people again. Right I was
- 1:11:22Speaker 8: reading an op ed that Linda McMahon wrote in The
- 1:11:24Speaker 8: Wall Street Journal, and she blamed the Biden administration and
- 1:11:27Speaker 8: universities for making empty promises to students.
- 1:11:29Speaker 6: While pocketing their loan dollars.
- 1:11:31Speaker 8: She said, greedy colleges have profited massively from Biden era
- 1:11:35Speaker 8: forgiveness measures. When I read that, I said to myself, Oh,
- 1:11:38Speaker 8: the American people once again have to suffer because of
- 1:11:41Speaker 8: this pissing contest between Democrats and Republicans.
- 1:11:44Speaker 9: See.
- 1:11:44Speaker 6: I hate when political parties do that.
- 1:11:46Speaker 8: If Republicans do something that's good and benefit people, dim
- 1:11:49Speaker 8: should let it stand. If Democrats do something that's good
- 1:11:52Speaker 8: that benefits people, Republicans should let it stand. Linda McMahon
- 1:11:56Speaker 8: said colleges profit massively from Biden era forgiveness loans. Well,
- 1:12:00Speaker 8: there are plenty of corporations, institutions, and people in the
- 1:12:03Speaker 8: Trump administration who profit massively from things y'all do too.
- 1:12:07Speaker 8: I honestly don't care as long as the working class
- 1:12:09Speaker 8: people are getting some relief. When the rich get richer
- 1:12:12Speaker 8: and the poor don't get a devil damn thing.
- 1:12:14Speaker 6: That's not good.
- 1:12:15Speaker 8: But if the rich get richer, and people are able
- 1:12:17Speaker 8: to get some money in they pocket too so they
- 1:12:19Speaker 8: can live, that's a beautiful society.
- 1:12:22Speaker 6: Okay.
- 1:12:22Speaker 8: And I don't want to hear you idiots say no,
- 1:12:24Speaker 8: they gotta pay these loans back. You can't get a
- 1:12:26Speaker 8: loan and not pay it back. Sure, but how come
- 1:12:28Speaker 8: there is never that sense of urgency to pay loans
- 1:12:31Speaker 8: back when it comes to these corporations.
- 1:12:33Speaker 6: Okay.
- 1:12:34Speaker 8: Two thousand and eight financial crisis, US government bailed out banks,
- 1:12:38Speaker 8: AIG got one hundred and eighty two billion, City Group
- 1:12:40Speaker 8: got forty five billion in TART funds and hundreds of
- 1:12:43Speaker 8: billions in loan guarantees. Bank of America got forty five
- 1:12:46Speaker 8: billion through the TART program. Those were loans. Two thousand
- 1:12:49Speaker 8: and nine, Auto Industry GM got fifty billion in federal aid,
- 1:12:52Speaker 8: Chrysler got twelve billion. GM filed for Chapter eleven bankruptcy
- 1:12:56Speaker 8: and had over thirty billion in debt wiped out. What
- 1:12:58Speaker 8: about during COVID Delta, United American Airlines OH got billions
- 1:13:03Speaker 8: in payroll support and loans. And my point is I
- 1:13:06Speaker 8: don't ever hear or see about these corporations getting pressure
- 1:13:09Speaker 8: to pay money back the way we are so quick
- 1:13:11Speaker 8: to do American citizens.
- 1:13:13Speaker 6: Yes, I'm glad all.
- 1:13:14Speaker 8: These institutions were able to stay afloat. We need those institutions.
- 1:13:17Speaker 8: We need the airlines, we need the banks, but don't
- 1:13:19Speaker 8: we need the American people too? Is it really going
- 1:13:22Speaker 8: to hurt us as a country if we don't garnish
- 1:13:23Speaker 8: the wages of student loan borrows, if we don't take
- 1:13:26Speaker 8: from their pensions their tax refunds. Is it really going
- 1:13:29Speaker 8: to make or break us as a society if we
- 1:13:31Speaker 8: choose to simply let those folks be.
- 1:13:33Speaker 6: For the time being.
- 1:13:34Speaker 8: Why at a time like this, with the Department of
- 1:13:36Speaker 8: Education and the Trump administration be doing this because it's
- 1:13:39Speaker 8: not about what's right, it's about revenge.
- 1:13:42Speaker 6: I'm not a Joe Biden fan. I think his legacy
- 1:13:45Speaker 6: is trash.
- 1:13:45Speaker 8: But the student loan forgiveness that he provided was great, Okay,
- 1:13:49Speaker 8: one of the better things on his resume. But Donald
- 1:13:51Speaker 8: Trump is hell bent on wiping his ass with Joe
- 1:13:54Speaker 8: Biden's resume. It's that simple, and we the people have
- 1:13:57Speaker 8: to suffer because folks have political scores to settle. Please
- 1:14:01Speaker 8: let me be ma give the US Department of Education
- 1:14:04Speaker 8: the biggest he hull he ha he ha.
- 1:14:07Speaker 9: You stupid mother, Are you dumb?
- 1:14:11Speaker 3: That's what we said earlier. It makes no sense none whatsoever.
- 1:14:14Speaker 18: They deserve that.
- 1:14:16Speaker 7: All right, well, thank you for that donkey of the day, Yes, ma'am.
- 1:14:19Speaker 7: Now when we come back, Olyncia Johnson will be joining us.
- 1:14:22Speaker 7: She has a new book called Flip the Tables, and
- 1:14:24Speaker 7: we're gonna talk to her next.
- 1:14:25Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere.
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: What's the whole No, what's the whole book?
- 1:14:27Speaker 13: Name?
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: Clip the Tables?
- 1:14:29Speaker 6: Know what Clip the tables?
- 1:14:30Speaker 3: Because every days this guide to finding courage and make
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: him change.
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: Your book title better be shorten than the way you
- 1:14:38Speaker 1: becoming that is. I'm going back and forth with them
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: right now. We'll talking about oh you need a sub title,
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: and why.
- 1:14:45Speaker 6: That's what it should be called, and why its club coded.
- 1:14:51Speaker 9: It's some breakfast club.
- 1:14:55Speaker 3: Morning everybody in steej Envy just hilarious.
- 1:14:58Speaker 7: Charlamagne the guy, we are the breakfast this club low
- 1:15:00Speaker 7: on La Ross here as well, and we got a
- 1:15:02Speaker 7: special guest.
- 1:15:02Speaker 6: In the building.
- 1:15:03Speaker 7: Yes, indeed, her new book, Flip the Tables is out
- 1:15:06Speaker 7: right now. We have Alynsia Johnson. Welcome, Thank you.
- 1:15:08Speaker 5: I'm glad to be here.
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: How you feeling.
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: That's so good.
- 1:15:12Speaker 22: Interesting to say that in the midst of everything going on,
- 1:15:14Speaker 22: but that's good taking care of myself and getting this
- 1:15:17Speaker 22: message out.
- 1:15:18Speaker 6: We find enjoy what we can, right right, we have
- 1:15:20Speaker 6: to you got to the Way to Surviving.
- 1:15:21Speaker 5: Absolutely.
- 1:15:22Speaker 8: I love the title of your book because I think that,
- 1:15:24Speaker 8: you know, people don't ever expound on that part of
- 1:15:27Speaker 8: Jesus enoughing.
- 1:15:28Speaker 18: You know what I mean that crank Jesus.
- 1:15:30Speaker 8: Yes, flip the tables that every day disrupt this guide
- 1:15:33Speaker 8: to finding courage and making change?
- 1:15:35Speaker 6: Break that title death.
- 1:15:36Speaker 22: Yeah, you know, I'm glad you mentioned that reference. I'm
- 1:15:39Speaker 22: Pastor's daughter.
- 1:15:40Speaker 18: I love that story of Jesus.
- 1:15:41Speaker 22: And in all of my work, I've worked on a
- 1:15:43Speaker 22: lot of presidential campaigns, I've worked for a Planned parenthood.
- 1:15:46Speaker 22: People constantly ask me, oh my goodness, how can I
- 1:15:49Speaker 22: make change? They think it has to be at this
- 1:15:51Speaker 22: massive scale. But what I realize is that when we
- 1:15:55Speaker 22: find the courage to really be ourselves and to live
- 1:15:58Speaker 22: in our truth, and to speak up and rooms and
- 1:16:00Speaker 22: do these small acts of disruption every single day, it
- 1:16:03Speaker 22: doesn't actually require folks to quit their jobs.
- 1:16:06Speaker 18: And run for office. So I don't think a lot
- 1:16:07Speaker 18: of people should do that.
- 1:16:08Speaker 22: It doesn't require us to be like doctor King or
- 1:16:11Speaker 22: you know, having these massive platforms which are really important.
- 1:16:15Speaker 22: But there are things that folks can do every single day.
- 1:16:17Speaker 22: And I found that getting connected to your individual purpose
- 1:16:21Speaker 22: and having the courage to be who you are is
- 1:16:23Speaker 22: directly connected to being an everyday disruptor that propels our
- 1:16:27Speaker 22: communities forward. And I think it's kind of divine that
- 1:16:29Speaker 22: it's such a time as this that it came out
- 1:16:31Speaker 22: when I started writing this book five years ago, and
- 1:16:33Speaker 22: who knew that it would come out three months after
- 1:16:35Speaker 22: a few months after Donald Trump was elected.
- 1:16:37Speaker 6: Again, you worked on the VP's campaign, right, and you
- 1:16:41Speaker 6: do work? You worked with Barack, Yeah, I worked on
- 1:16:45Speaker 6: I worked by A.
- 1:16:46Speaker 22: Lama's campaign, Jo Biden's campaign, was with Born's campaign and
- 1:16:49Speaker 22: Vice President Hair's campaign.
- 1:16:50Speaker 8: What bothers me is, I know people like you exist
- 1:16:53Speaker 8: in people like you work for these individuals.
- 1:16:56Speaker 6: Why aren't they disruptive enough? Why don't they flip tables?
- 1:16:59Speaker 6: Why do they? Why did they don't? Why don't why
- 1:17:01Speaker 6: don't they have the courage to disrupt the status quot
- 1:17:05Speaker 6: All of them, all of them.
- 1:17:06Speaker 22: Well, you know, it's interesting because I don't I don't
- 1:17:09Speaker 22: want to say I look at well, I don't think
- 1:17:11Speaker 22: I look at all of them.
- 1:17:12Speaker 18: In essence the same.
- 1:17:15Speaker 22: In democratic politics and politics in general, elected officials, I
- 1:17:19Speaker 22: think tend to follow a certain path, right, and sometimes
- 1:17:25Speaker 22: it seems as though making sure that the status quo remains.
- 1:17:29Speaker 22: I do think, if we step back a little bit,
- 1:17:31Speaker 22: Barack Obama was a bit of a disruptor because him
- 1:17:35Speaker 22: because his ID, his identity, but and because he you know,
- 1:17:39Speaker 22: folks told him he shouldn't have ran, and he and
- 1:17:41Speaker 22: he did. Right Now, there's a whole system at play
- 1:17:45Speaker 22: that folks. You know, when you become the president of
- 1:17:48Speaker 22: the United States or nominee for the President of the
- 1:17:50Speaker 22: United States, you know you uphold this party platform. But
- 1:17:53Speaker 22: the reality is I don't look at them to disrupt
- 1:17:56Speaker 22: what our country needs politically. I actually look at as
- 1:18:00Speaker 22: the people in the ground swell. Which is why it's
- 1:18:03Speaker 22: just as important. Yes, I work for a lot of
- 1:18:06Speaker 22: presidential campaigns, but just as important to work for these
- 1:18:09Speaker 22: local races, to work for these primary races, to work
- 1:18:11Speaker 22: for these governors races, all these people who are actually
- 1:18:14Speaker 22: trying to challenge the system and get more reflective folks
- 1:18:18Speaker 22: in position to actually push forward the policies who care about,
- 1:18:21Speaker 22: like universal health care and racial justice and access to abortion,
- 1:18:26Speaker 22: all those things. And so you know, it takes a
- 1:18:28Speaker 22: lot of courage to shake the table, and it takes
- 1:18:30Speaker 22: a lot of courage to concede that if you're going
- 1:18:32Speaker 22: to shake the table, you actually might lose in the
- 1:18:35Speaker 22: short term, but you're going to create a path for
- 1:18:38Speaker 22: other people to push forward that change, and it will
- 1:18:41Speaker 22: be a little bit easier because you were there and
- 1:18:43Speaker 22: you started something.
- 1:18:44Speaker 3: How did you get into politics? What got you into
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: politics in that party?
- 1:18:47Speaker 22: Again, I think it was always in me. I talk
- 1:18:49Speaker 22: about my late grandmother in the book often. I actually
- 1:18:52Speaker 22: dedicate the book to her, Miss Ozella Bennett, and she
- 1:18:55Speaker 22: was one of those people who, much like a lot
- 1:18:57Speaker 22: of our ancestors, their names aren't history books, but they
- 1:19:01Speaker 22: were foot soldiers. My grandmother was in the church. I'm
- 1:19:03Speaker 22: the daughter pastor, so I grew up in the Black Church.
- 1:19:05Speaker 22: And there's a lot of politics there, right, a lot
- 1:19:07Speaker 22: of social justice there, and just this understanding that were
- 1:19:11Speaker 22: much as given, much is required, that my gifts are
- 1:19:13Speaker 22: not my own, and that they are actually on loan,
- 1:19:16Speaker 22: and that I actually have to get those out and
- 1:19:17Speaker 22: help the world around me.
- 1:19:19Speaker 18: And my grandmother, no matter.
- 1:19:21Speaker 22: How much she had or what she didn't have, she
- 1:19:23Speaker 22: always felt like she had to stand in the gap.
- 1:19:25Speaker 22: And voting for me is just all I mean. I
- 1:19:29Speaker 22: would go to with my parents, who the voting blu
- 1:19:30Speaker 22: that had that little sticker, But that was just like
- 1:19:32Speaker 22: one part of it. I had to be an active
- 1:19:34Speaker 22: participant in the world that I wanted to create, and
- 1:19:37Speaker 22: so for me, it was just kind of natural that
- 1:19:39Speaker 22: it would be a part of my life.
- 1:19:41Speaker 18: Now, how I got to my position I talk about.
- 1:19:43Speaker 6: In the book.
- 1:19:44Speaker 22: I didn't know anybody in democratic politics when I moved
- 1:19:47Speaker 22: to DC. I was working a corporate job. I just
- 1:19:49Speaker 22: had a dream.
- 1:19:49Speaker 18: I was like, Oh, this black man is president.
- 1:19:51Speaker 22: I think I kind of want to work for his
- 1:19:52Speaker 22: reelection campaign and figured out how to network with folks
- 1:19:56Speaker 22: and ended up taking a job that I wasn't even
- 1:19:57Speaker 22: qualified for, but they took a chance on me, and
- 1:20:00Speaker 22: I figured it out from there. And I can't just
- 1:20:02Speaker 22: sit on the sidelines and critique something and not be
- 1:20:04Speaker 22: a part of it. And I also understand how engaging
- 1:20:08Speaker 22: if so many more of us engaged in the process,
- 1:20:13Speaker 22: the outcomes will look different, our communities will look different.
- 1:20:15Speaker 22: But for whatever reason, there are so many barriers for
- 1:20:17Speaker 22: us to engage. And that's another reason why I wanted
- 1:20:20Speaker 22: to be part of this, because I felt like, well,
- 1:20:22Speaker 22: if I can do this and people can identify with me,
- 1:20:24Speaker 22: maybe it won't feel as hard for me to engage
- 1:20:27Speaker 22: in politics. Maybe you know, I won't feel a shame
- 1:20:29Speaker 22: that I don't know every single term that they're using
- 1:20:31Speaker 22: or every single way that the policy is defiled.
- 1:20:33Speaker 6: I'll be honest with you.
- 1:20:34Speaker 22: Sometimes when I have to go and see it MSNBC
- 1:20:37Speaker 22: and talk about something, I got a research what I'm
- 1:20:39Speaker 22: talking about because government class was in high school.
- 1:20:40Speaker 18: I'm thirty seven years old. I don't remember everything.
- 1:20:43Speaker 22: And so if I can't remember all these things, right,
- 1:20:46Speaker 22: if I have to continue to inform myself, imagine all
- 1:20:48Speaker 22: the other people who are just scared to participate because
- 1:20:50Speaker 22: they don't know. It's not that they don't want to,
- 1:20:52Speaker 22: and so I know that I have to be a
- 1:20:54Speaker 22: representative of that. But I also, again, is this calling
- 1:20:56Speaker 22: where much as given, much as required, and I'm required
- 1:20:59Speaker 22: to make my communities better.
- 1:21:01Speaker 4: I think right now, with politics and like how we're
- 1:21:03Speaker 4: seeing people get messages out through like TikTok and stuff
- 1:21:05Speaker 4: like that.
- 1:21:05Speaker 2: Things are changing.
- 1:21:07Speaker 4: And I saw an interview that you did where you
- 1:21:08Speaker 4: talked about you weren't the most qualified, but you were
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: the most recommended when it came to working for the Obamas.
- 1:21:14Speaker 4: And then I saw another interview where you talked about
- 1:21:15Speaker 4: your red Flag is You chapter in your book, and
- 1:21:19Speaker 4: putting both of those together, I think that there's like
- 1:21:21Speaker 4: a renaissance of like new political leaders, but they're afraid
- 1:21:24Speaker 4: that they don't know enough for it, that they can't
- 1:21:26Speaker 4: challenge the trumps of the world, you know what I mean.
- 1:21:28Speaker 4: So how do you speak to those leaders that are
- 1:21:30Speaker 4: coming up in this book? Because they're there, they just
- 1:21:32Speaker 4: need to figure out how to do what you did.
- 1:21:34Speaker 22: No, they literally are there, which is why I start
- 1:21:36Speaker 22: the book with the disruption of self right. We actually
- 1:21:38Speaker 22: have to look in the mirror, and that's the hardest
- 1:21:41Speaker 22: thing to do. One thing that I've realized in working
- 1:21:44Speaker 22: and advocacy spaces and political spaces.
- 1:21:46Speaker 18: I'm not controuble for saying this.
- 1:21:47Speaker 22: But we're telling the world to treat us well and
- 1:21:50Speaker 22: to vote for us to enact these policies that see
- 1:21:53Speaker 22: us as worthy for humanity and all of these things
- 1:21:56Speaker 22: and fighting for justice, and yet we're not treating each
- 1:21:58Speaker 22: other well.
- 1:21:59Speaker 5: Right.
- 1:22:00Speaker 18: A lot of that is because we are not healthy.
- 1:22:02Speaker 22: We're not dealing with the things that are holding us
- 1:22:05Speaker 22: back from being who we are. We're not dealing with
- 1:22:07Speaker 22: this trauma, and we're doing this interpersonal harm that is
- 1:22:10Speaker 22: actually not allowing us to do the work that needs
- 1:22:13Speaker 22: to be done for communities. And so I put that
- 1:22:16Speaker 22: chapter the Red Flag is You and the Disruption of
- 1:22:18Speaker 22: Self section of the book because so many times we
- 1:22:23Speaker 22: are the ones that are getting in our own way.
- 1:22:24Speaker 22: And that's why, you know, the only things stopping us. Sometimes, yes,
- 1:22:28Speaker 22: there's the system, right like, there's all of that, and
- 1:22:30Speaker 22: yet at the same time, sometimes it's us getting in
- 1:22:33Speaker 22: our own way.
- 1:22:33Speaker 7: I we have more with Alynsia Johnson when we come back.
- 1:22:36Speaker 7: Her new book, Flip the Tables is out now. It's
- 1:22:38Speaker 7: the Breakfast Club, Good Morning Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,
- 1:22:42Speaker 7: Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne, thea God. We are the Breakfast Club.
- 1:22:45Speaker 7: Laura Laarosa is here as well. We're still kicking with
- 1:22:47Speaker 7: Alynsia Johnson. Her new book flip the tables is out
- 1:22:50Speaker 7: right now, Lauren?
- 1:22:51Speaker 4: What about your because I know you did a lot
- 1:22:53Speaker 4: of work with planting parents who and now a lot
- 1:22:55Speaker 4: of what you were doing is they ain't supporting that.
- 1:22:59Speaker 4: So when you do all this work, you stopped taking
- 1:23:01Speaker 4: the rest to fight to make it, to break this ground.
- 1:23:04Speaker 4: And then you see this new administration come in who's
- 1:23:06Speaker 4: completely against it, and it's stripping all of that. You
- 1:23:09Speaker 4: feel defeated or like what happens now? Because you're not
- 1:23:12Speaker 4: there anymore?
- 1:23:12Speaker 22: No, I mean, and then they have the audacity to
- 1:23:15Speaker 22: talk about they want to put policies in place for
- 1:23:18Speaker 22: people to have more babies and give people five thousand dollars.
- 1:23:22Speaker 22: I'm like, but y'all voted against the child tax credit.
- 1:23:24Speaker 22: So what's interesting about working at Planned Parenthood? I worked
- 1:23:26Speaker 22: there for six years at the National Office, and talk
- 1:23:28Speaker 22: about disruptive, being the daughter of a pastor, a lover
- 1:23:31Speaker 22: of Jesus and advocating for abortion rights. People are like,
- 1:23:34Speaker 22: how do you reconcile that? I was like, I just exist, literally,
- 1:23:37Speaker 22: I just exist. And the teachings of Jesus, the ret
- 1:23:40Speaker 22: text in the Bible tells me a lot of ways
- 1:23:42Speaker 22: in which I should show up in the world. When
- 1:23:44Speaker 22: I look at when I was working at Plane Parenthood,
- 1:23:46Speaker 22: President Obama was still in office, and I was like, oh,
- 1:23:49Speaker 22: we're good.
- 1:23:50Speaker 18: You know, he believes and reproductive freedom.
- 1:23:52Speaker 13: This is great.
- 1:23:52Speaker 18: And they're like, oh no, let's look at.
- 1:23:53Speaker 22: These state policies and these states that are overturning the
- 1:23:57Speaker 22: right to access to abortion, not only access to abortion,
- 1:24:02Speaker 22: but sex education, contraception, all of these things, and just
- 1:24:05Speaker 22: gutting healthcare systems and health centers that are helping people
- 1:24:10Speaker 22: who have nowhere else to go. When I look at
- 1:24:13Speaker 22: what's happening now at the federal level, and you know,
- 1:24:18Speaker 22: the Trump administration is literally going after organizations like Planned Parenthood,
- 1:24:23Speaker 22: it reminds me that these people do not care about
- 1:24:26Speaker 22: people at the margins. They do not care about low
- 1:24:28Speaker 22: income folks who have nowhere else to go. And if
- 1:24:30Speaker 22: you actually wanted people to have more children in this country,
- 1:24:34Speaker 22: would you would actually support and bolster the healthcare system
- 1:24:38Speaker 22: instead of gutting it. Last week was Black Maternal Health Week,
- 1:24:41Speaker 22: and Black maternal mortality is on the rise. Maternal mortality
- 1:24:45Speaker 22: across the country, across the demographics is on the rise.
- 1:24:48Speaker 22: And the wealthiest nation and so it's challenging, it's frustrating.
- 1:24:53Speaker 22: There's this Alice Walker quote I put at the beginning
- 1:24:55Speaker 22: of the book, and I'm paraphrasing it. You have to
- 1:24:58Speaker 22: keep a healthy soul on the face of constant of depression,
- 1:25:01Speaker 22: which reminds you that at the end of the day,
- 1:25:03Speaker 22: there's going to continuously be something that you're fighting for.
- 1:25:06Speaker 22: So how do you maintain your spirit in order to
- 1:25:09Speaker 22: keep going? And that is through the joy and the
- 1:25:10Speaker 22: rest and all of those things can coexist together while
- 1:25:15Speaker 22: you're also still fighting for the ability to have agency
- 1:25:17Speaker 22: over my body. The one thing I will say of
- 1:25:20Speaker 22: everything being burned down, from abortion access to everything that's
- 1:25:25Speaker 22: happening in our country, it gives us the opportunity to
- 1:25:27Speaker 22: build something better and something new. I don't want to
- 1:25:29Speaker 22: rebuild the old, because the old was clearly it was
- 1:25:32Speaker 22: able to be dismantled. I actually now want to be
- 1:25:35Speaker 22: able to imagine something even better that's actually going.
- 1:25:39Speaker 18: To work, and how do we build that? And that's
- 1:25:42Speaker 18: actually what gets me up at night.
- 1:25:43Speaker 22: I'm like, I'm not fighting these people to rebuild what
- 1:25:47Speaker 22: didn't work. I have this vision that excites me to
- 1:25:51Speaker 22: build something even better. Even on the days that are
- 1:25:53Speaker 22: hard and.
- 1:25:54Speaker 18: That's too simple.
- 1:25:55Speaker 8: Even going back to the urgency, and now when people
- 1:25:58Speaker 8: ask us now, they tell us all of these different
- 1:26:01Speaker 8: things that Trump is doing every single day, and they're like,
- 1:26:03Speaker 8: what what do you think of that? And I'm like,
- 1:26:06Speaker 8: I don't know what to think because I'm like, what
- 1:26:07Speaker 8: am I even supposed to do? Because it always seems
- 1:26:10Speaker 8: like the urgency is put on we the people, right,
- 1:26:13Speaker 8: But then when these elected officials that we voted for
- 1:26:15Speaker 8: from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, when they were
- 1:26:17Speaker 8: in the White House, they didn't govern with a sense
- 1:26:19Speaker 8: of urgency. That's what always gets me about Democrats. Whenever
- 1:26:22Speaker 8: it's election time, it's a sense of urgency. It's on y'all.
- 1:26:25Speaker 8: It's just threat to democracy and you know you're gonna
- 1:26:27Speaker 8: lose all your rights and everything else. But you don't
- 1:26:30Speaker 8: govern like that when you get an office.
- 1:26:31Speaker 18: Yeah, you know, it is frustrating.
- 1:26:33Speaker 22: I will say, I don't pay attention to what that
- 1:26:38Speaker 22: man is doing all day every day, because then I'll
- 1:26:40Speaker 22: just sit in this place where I'm immobile. Right, But
- 1:26:43Speaker 22: I do look for small pockets of hope, and to
- 1:26:48Speaker 22: your point, it does end up being us that have
- 1:26:50Speaker 22: to save our own communities. But like I think that's
- 1:26:54Speaker 22: in general nature of who we are as a people,
- 1:26:56Speaker 22: and that is community. I mean, look at you know,
- 1:26:58Speaker 22: our friends who started State of the People, which I
- 1:27:00Speaker 22: was a part of, you all broadcasted and now it's going.
- 1:27:02Speaker 18: Now there's a whole tour.
- 1:27:04Speaker 22: Shout out to Angela Rye and Joy Read and so
- 1:27:06Speaker 22: many folks who are just building something beautiful, reminding us
- 1:27:11Speaker 22: of our power as community. And I think out of
- 1:27:16Speaker 22: that birth's people who will govern with urgency of now.
- 1:27:21Speaker 22: So I write about Aana Presley in the book, but
- 1:27:23Speaker 22: I also write about Shirley Chisholm, who was just fed
- 1:27:25Speaker 22: up and was like, oh, I'm going to actually be
- 1:27:28Speaker 22: the one that changes.
- 1:27:30Speaker 13: You know.
- 1:27:31Speaker 22: David Hogg, who was the vice chair of the DNC
- 1:27:35Speaker 22: but was a survivor of Parkland shooting. It's done all
- 1:27:39Speaker 22: of this activism and now he's challenging. He's getting a
- 1:27:43Speaker 22: lot of heat.
- 1:27:44Speaker 9: He's getting a lot of heat.
- 1:27:46Speaker 6: I have said that.
- 1:27:47Speaker 8: I said that two months ago. Anybody who's not willing
- 1:27:50Speaker 8: to fight in the Democratic Party should be primary Kim Jeffries,
- 1:27:55Speaker 8: Choke Schuma, y'all should resign.
- 1:27:56Speaker 6: If y'all not the people that can meet this moment.
- 1:27:58Speaker 8: I really feel that way, and anybody else in the
- 1:28:00Speaker 8: Democratic Party who's not willing to fight should be primary.
- 1:28:03Speaker 6: I'm all full with David hag Doing. I said that
- 1:28:05Speaker 6: months ago, and.
- 1:28:06Speaker 22: Listen, you know there are some people who disagree with that,
- 1:28:08Speaker 22: but he said looks and change has. We can't just
- 1:28:11Speaker 22: keep talking about change. You gotta actually go after and
- 1:28:14Speaker 22: whether or not you believe and what he's doing, whether
- 1:28:17Speaker 22: or not you believe that there needs to be new leadership,
- 1:28:20Speaker 22: whatever it is like, changes don't just happen with we
- 1:28:23Speaker 22: sit around and wish for it.
- 1:28:24Speaker 18: We actually have to do something about it.
- 1:28:25Speaker 22: And sometimes in order to get these folks to operate
- 1:28:28Speaker 22: with some urgency, you gotta put some pressure and some
- 1:28:30Speaker 22: cheat under them.
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: That's why everybody in the party should have had a
- 1:28:33Speaker 6: copy of this book. Flip the table a lot.
- 1:28:36Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to do it though.
- 1:28:39Speaker 4: They have no choice now, They never never don't have
- 1:28:42Speaker 4: When do.
- 1:28:42Speaker 2: We ever have a choice?
- 1:28:43Speaker 6: No, there's really no choice now.
- 1:28:45Speaker 4: I feel like it's always a fight or fight, like,
- 1:28:48Speaker 4: do what you got to do to get out of situation.
- 1:28:50Speaker 4: It's different, I could be, but I feel like it
- 1:28:53Speaker 4: is different, but I don't feel like anything has changed
- 1:28:56Speaker 4: about the way that people are handling it. I don't
- 1:28:57Speaker 4: really feel the sense of urgency. There was an interview
- 1:29:01Speaker 4: that you talked about Di You're like, these companies are folding.
- 1:29:04Speaker 4: It was a Glamour magazine and you said, these companies
- 1:29:06Speaker 4: are foting. They don't understand that the proximity to the
- 1:29:08Speaker 4: president isn't power. Power is showing him that he needs you.
- 1:29:11Speaker 4: People are not going to do that. Everything that we're
- 1:29:13Speaker 4: talking about, people just don't do it, you know.
- 1:29:15Speaker 22: But I think what I hear you and I do
- 1:29:19Speaker 22: have to remind us all that this man has only
- 1:29:22Speaker 22: he hasn't even been in office one hundred days. But
- 1:29:24Speaker 22: because we are in such an information overload forever, it
- 1:29:27Speaker 22: does like you open Instagram and I'm saying restaurants I
- 1:29:30Speaker 22: want to go to, and then I'm seeing what this
- 1:29:32Speaker 22: man is doing in the White House, right, So like
- 1:29:33Speaker 22: we're in this information overload and yeah, and at the
- 1:29:36Speaker 22: same time, I think about at the State of the Union,
- 1:29:39Speaker 22: shout out to Congressman Green and y'all had him up here,
- 1:29:43Speaker 22: and I was like, oh my gosh, every single Democrat
- 1:29:45Speaker 22: should have gotten up right after him and disrupted the
- 1:29:49Speaker 22: entire speech, right and then when you know Senator Booker
- 1:29:53Speaker 22: did his filibuster, people were saying, Yes, this is what
- 1:29:57Speaker 22: we need more of. And now you're seeing more people
- 1:30:00Speaker 22: in the streets, and I think people are are some
- 1:30:03Speaker 22: of our elected officials are understanding that there's more that
- 1:30:05Speaker 22: they can do now, and then there is still going
- 1:30:08Speaker 22: to be some who don't.
- 1:30:10Speaker 18: And we have midterm.
- 1:30:10Speaker 22: Elections and special elections, and I am all about getting
- 1:30:14Speaker 22: people in office who are going to be effective and
- 1:30:18Speaker 22: also us participating in that. If you, whether you agree
- 1:30:22Speaker 22: with them or disagree with them, if they represent you,
- 1:30:24Speaker 22: you have the power and the right to show up
- 1:30:27Speaker 22: and tell them what is working and what isn't working.
- 1:30:29Speaker 22: And I want more of us to do. I want
- 1:30:31Speaker 22: our elected officials to be scared. I want our elect
- 1:30:33Speaker 22: officials to be like, my constituents aren't going for this,
- 1:30:36Speaker 22: or my constituents told me I have to do this,
- 1:30:38Speaker 22: and that's why I'm doing.
- 1:30:39Speaker 6: It absolutely well.
- 1:30:40Speaker 3: Flip the Tables is out right now.
- 1:30:42Speaker 8: I'm Cia Johnson, the Everyday Disruptor's Guide to finding courage
- 1:30:46Speaker 8: and making change. And this isn't a book, you know,
- 1:30:48Speaker 8: just with politics now just in life.
- 1:30:51Speaker 6: If you want to learn how to tables like Jesus did, Yes,
- 1:30:55Speaker 6: more of that.
- 1:30:56Speaker 22: Yeah, like, can you imagine like Jesus flippant over tables angry?
- 1:31:00Speaker 6: Yes, I think you should. I think you should find
- 1:31:02Speaker 6: a table to flip.
- 1:31:03Speaker 18: Listen. Okay, that's a whole other conversation for us to have.
- 1:31:06Speaker 13: You w.
- 1:31:11Speaker 3: Lindia Johnson is the club. Good morning y'all, the breakfast.
- 1:31:15Speaker 9: Club rolling everybody.
- 1:31:19Speaker 3: It's DJ Envy J just hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
- 1:31:22Speaker 6: We are the breakfasts club. You just reminded me saluting
- 1:31:25Speaker 6: my guy. Mister show me the money, mister show money,
- 1:31:28Speaker 6: mister show money.
- 1:31:29Speaker 8: I was in New York, New Jersey over the weekend
- 1:31:31Speaker 8: and he gave some gifts for Jess and Lauren and
- 1:31:34Speaker 8: you as well.
- 1:31:34Speaker 6: But he told me to give you this sombrero. What's
- 1:31:37Speaker 6: that for? He said?
- 1:31:39Speaker 8: He said, get at the cowboy. I said, who is cowboy?
- 1:31:41Speaker 8: He said Envy And I said, why you call him cowboy?
- 1:31:44Speaker 8: He said, you know what I'm talking about. I don't
- 1:31:45Speaker 8: know what he's talking about.
- 1:31:46Speaker 6: And I'm just passing you to some that's a sombrero though.
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: That's I'm not Mexican and I'm not Latino.
- 1:31:51Speaker 6: This is well, you're Dominican.
- 1:31:52Speaker 3: I'm not Dominican. Why do you give me a some
- 1:31:55Speaker 3: I bet you know how to wear it.
- 1:31:56Speaker 6: You look at you. You know exactly how to wear it.
- 1:31:59Speaker 18: That is so cute.
- 1:32:00Speaker 6: You hate too big for this all over jess in
- 1:32:02Speaker 6: Law's house. Listen, you know exactly look at you. There
- 1:32:06Speaker 6: you go, there you go. But that's good. What I
- 1:32:10Speaker 6: say with it's a barrel like what now you don't know?
- 1:32:13Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, right, well, speaking of right, I thought
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: we got to.
- 1:32:21Speaker 6: Take a shot right now, she's about to take a shot. Yeah,
- 1:32:27Speaker 6: good morning, good day.
- 1:32:29Speaker 7: I'm actually DJing Tequila Fest in the Landa next week,
- 1:32:31Speaker 7: so this I'm definitely I'm gonna take my sombreda with me.
- 1:32:34Speaker 2: There happened this weekend so we could do the Black
- 1:32:37Speaker 2: Effect Festival and then go drink.
- 1:32:38Speaker 6: To quila alcoholic. Let's get to.
- 1:32:41Speaker 3: Long be coming straight fat.
- 1:32:44Speaker 9: She gets them from somebody that knows, somebody gets the detail.
- 1:32:48Speaker 2: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
- 1:32:51Speaker 9: She's been having the latest on the Latest with Laurence
- 1:32:55Speaker 9: La Rosa.
- 1:32:56Speaker 8: Sometimes you have fact, sometimes you have details. Sometimes you
- 1:32:58Speaker 8: have a little bit of everything.
- 1:32:59Speaker 6: It's the on the.
- 1:33:00Speaker 9: Breakfast cloud talk to me.
- 1:33:04Speaker 4: Ryan Coogler has posted a thank you letter to his
- 1:33:07Speaker 4: ex account and it is the sweetest thing ever.
- 1:33:11Speaker 2: Doing another time right, he deserves to Can you do
- 1:33:14Speaker 2: too in a row? Is that thank you?
- 1:33:17Speaker 4: So he posted this letter to his ex account and
- 1:33:20Speaker 4: he's just talking about how grateful he is and how
- 1:33:23Speaker 4: his heart is bursting with gratitude because of everybody that
- 1:33:26Speaker 4: came out and supported Sinners over its opening weekend, over
- 1:33:29Speaker 4: Eastern weekend.
- 1:33:31Speaker 2: He says he wants to think everybody who went and
- 1:33:32Speaker 2: brought a ticket go see it.
- 1:33:33Speaker 4: You know, people who carpooled, who you know, got babysitters,
- 1:33:37Speaker 4: made a new friend while they were there.
- 1:33:38Speaker 16: You know.
- 1:33:39Speaker 4: He talks about how he believes so much in cinema
- 1:33:41Speaker 4: and the theatrical experience and he doesn't get to do
- 1:33:44Speaker 4: what he does if people don't come out and see it.
- 1:33:46Speaker 6: Sinna's was a spiritual experience.
- 1:33:49Speaker 8: They mixed black music, black magic, the Black Church to
- 1:33:52Speaker 8: create a black master piece.
- 1:33:54Speaker 4: Man that I kept hearing about was the soundtrack, Like
- 1:33:58Speaker 4: I kept the music tire. Everything was fired like the music,
- 1:34:02Speaker 4: the way that it look the coloring, the storyline, the acting.
- 1:34:07Speaker 7: I'm going this week. I was supposed to go last night,
- 1:34:09Speaker 7: but I couldn't make it. I'm going this week though,
- 1:34:10Speaker 7: I'm gonna go again.
- 1:34:11Speaker 2: I'm gonna go for a third time, just because I
- 1:34:13Speaker 2: was saying the movie three times.
- 1:34:14Speaker 6: I know that's right.
- 1:34:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go again for a third time.
- 1:34:17Speaker 6: Just first of it was one of the movies different dudes.
- 1:34:19Speaker 6: Didn't you.
- 1:34:21Speaker 13: What that? Wow?
- 1:34:25Speaker 8: Remember I told you she got three dudes that day
- 1:34:27Speaker 8: on Valentine's Three people send her.
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: Okay, beyond like, I don't first, what should I do?
- 1:34:37Speaker 11: First?
- 1:34:38Speaker 4: I went by myself first of all, I swear I
- 1:34:41Speaker 4: went by myself the first time I watched it.
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: I watched watch up until.
- 1:34:45Speaker 1: Certain point because we were every time you lie you studied,
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: the second by.
- 1:34:50Speaker 4: Myself, and then the third time. I'm gonna go, but
- 1:34:52Speaker 4: I'm gona tell her what you back there laughing at
- 1:34:54Speaker 4: because they Okay, anyway back to Ryan Cooler, not nothing
- 1:34:58Speaker 4: about me. I So he did something that was really
- 1:35:00Speaker 4: sweet at the end of the letter though he ended
- 1:35:02Speaker 4: the letter then he said PS and he talked about
- 1:35:05Speaker 4: the fact that people are making a big deal about him.
- 1:35:06Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan's relationship, him and his wife's really or.
- 1:35:09Speaker 4: They're married or they I believe him and his wife's relationship,
- 1:35:14Speaker 4: and you know other relationships that he's had that you know,
- 1:35:17Speaker 4: span it across all of these years and helped him
- 1:35:19Speaker 4: be the creator that he is. But he said he
- 1:35:21Speaker 4: wanted to take a second to shout out Michael Shaver,
- 1:35:25Speaker 4: who is their picture editor, who he's been working with
- 1:35:27Speaker 4: for over fifteen years. And if you see any of
- 1:35:29Speaker 4: the photos from the film and just like how cinematic
- 1:35:32Speaker 4: and then like the photography like the stills or whatever
- 1:35:35Speaker 4: from the film fire as well too.
- 1:35:37Speaker 2: But I thought that that was so fired that he
- 1:35:39Speaker 2: took the time to do that to make sure this
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: man got a shot.
- 1:35:40Speaker 4: And he said that this guy miss missed the press
- 1:35:43Speaker 4: tour because he was spending time with his family, so
- 1:35:46Speaker 4: he wanted to make sure he got some love as
- 1:35:47Speaker 4: well too. But Ryan Coogler been he'd been out here
- 1:35:50Speaker 4: doing the thing individual.
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: I mustache girl.
- 1:35:55Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the first time I actually saying to
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: my sayings like that actually looks good because that's Steve Harvey.
- 1:36:02Speaker 2: But when you put it on Ryane with the straight
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: bag some nothing else on his face. I can see
- 1:36:06Speaker 2: I can see that, and he got an.
- 1:36:08Speaker 6: Unprecedented deal for sentence.
- 1:36:10Speaker 13: He did so.
- 1:36:11Speaker 4: He actually did a deal with Warner Brothers where he
- 1:36:13Speaker 4: will retain the rights to the film centers in twenty
- 1:36:16Speaker 4: five years.
- 1:36:17Speaker 6: He gets the ownership price back up.
- 1:36:18Speaker 9: Yep.
- 1:36:18Speaker 4: And that has been the source of a lot of
- 1:36:19Speaker 4: conversation as well too, and people are talking about how, well,
- 1:36:23Speaker 4: so one more thing.
- 1:36:23Speaker 6: Till he secured a first dollar gross deal.
- 1:36:28Speaker 2: Yes, so what that is? That's important.
- 1:36:30Speaker 6: It means that he receives a.
- 1:36:31Speaker 8: Portion of box office revenue before the studio even begins recouping.
- 1:36:36Speaker 2: Wow, which is a big deal. And it deals like
- 1:36:38Speaker 2: this don't happen often.
- 1:36:39Speaker 4: I think the last time that people keep pointing back
- 1:36:41Speaker 4: to that things like this have happened was Quentin Tarantino.
- 1:36:44Speaker 4: And he mentioned Quentin Tarantino in his letter as one
- 1:36:46Speaker 4: of his inspirations for what he does as well too.
- 1:36:49Speaker 4: But as of today, he has grossed forty five point
- 1:36:51Speaker 4: six million dollars domestically and seventy one million dollars globally
- 1:36:55Speaker 4: during his open weekend opening weekend.
- 1:36:57Speaker 6: Yes, we got to keep supporting.
- 1:36:59Speaker 8: Yes, And that's the original I P Man that's an
- 1:37:02Speaker 8: original story written by Ryan Coogler, like dropping the clude
- 1:37:06Speaker 8: bond for Ryan Coole.
- 1:37:06Speaker 6: That's all of the original I.
- 1:37:08Speaker 8: P that Hollywood is looking for exist in the South,
- 1:37:13Speaker 8: Black folklore from the South.
- 1:37:15Speaker 4: He includes family photos in his letter as well too,
- 1:37:17Speaker 4: because he talks about how it stems from his ancestry,
- 1:37:19Speaker 4: which he talks about up here as well.
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: Right's pretty young, right, yeah, he is young. I look
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: it up. I want to real quick before we get
- 1:37:27Speaker 2: out of here, go back to Shannon Sharp.
- 1:37:29Speaker 3: Back to Shannon Shaa.
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: Well, nothing new happened, nothing crazy as of yet. I
- 1:37:35Speaker 2: can check my emails. But Stephen A.
- 1:37:38Speaker 4: Smith did go on his show and talk about the situation,
- 1:37:41Speaker 4: and he had a really good point about the career
- 1:37:44Speaker 4: stuff and where Disney is right now with everything.
- 1:37:46Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.
- 1:37:47Speaker 24: All I can speak to about is what I know
- 1:37:50Speaker 24: based on the reports, and I can speak about ESPN
- 1:37:53Speaker 24: and Disney. To be clear, even though this podcast, this
- 1:37:57Speaker 24: YouTube show is owned and operated by me solely, it
- 1:38:01Speaker 24: doesn't mean that I'm going to be dismissive of ESPN,
- 1:38:05Speaker 24: who employs me in my daytime job. On first ac
- 1:38:08Speaker 24: With that being said, it's important to point out a
- 1:38:10Speaker 24: couple of things. Number One, I was not there, I
- 1:38:13Speaker 24: am not I can provide no eyewitness account. And even
- 1:38:16Speaker 24: though I got love and respect for Shannon Sharp and
- 1:38:20Speaker 24: I'm sincerely hopeful and prayerful that he is completely innocent
- 1:38:24Speaker 24: of the allegations that have been levied against him, I
- 1:38:27Speaker 24: can't sit here and speak to his innocence or guilt
- 1:38:31Speaker 24: from a knowledgeable place because I have nothing to do
- 1:38:34Speaker 24: with this.
- 1:38:34Speaker 6: I haven't seen anything, I don't know anything. I don't
- 1:38:36Speaker 6: even know this person.
- 1:38:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:38:39Speaker 4: So, I mean people wanted to update from the career side,
- 1:38:44Speaker 4: ESPN Disney see where that was going to go, and
- 1:38:46Speaker 4: I guess this is the close you're gonna get to it.
- 1:38:48Speaker 4: Before this happened, though, I think a lot of people
- 1:38:51Speaker 4: were saying the obvious that normally with a company like
- 1:38:54Speaker 4: a Disney, they don't want to get in the mud
- 1:38:56Speaker 4: to mess at all.
- 1:38:57Speaker 2: They normally take a step back. They haven't said anything
- 1:38:59Speaker 2: officially yet, but let.
- 1:39:01Speaker 3: Me ask a question, what did what did doctor Umar say?
- 1:39:04Speaker 13: Though?
- 1:39:04Speaker 19: Oh baby, I'm staying with Uncle Shannon because I don't
- 1:39:08Speaker 19: like when black men get taken down. I gotta stand by. Yes,
- 1:39:12Speaker 19: he's a lifetime snow bunny hopper. Yes, he's a lifetime.
- 1:39:15Speaker 9: Snow bunny hopper.
- 1:39:16Speaker 6: But that's my brother.
- 1:39:17Speaker 9: Uncle Shannon Sharp is my brother.
- 1:39:19Speaker 19: I'm standing with Uncle Shannon Sharp until the facts prove otherwise,
- 1:39:23Speaker 19: all right.
- 1:39:25Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:39:25Speaker 8: I don't like seeing brothers get taken down either, especially
- 1:39:28Speaker 8: when it's self inflicted. But we got to remember, destiny
- 1:39:30Speaker 8: is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice.
- 1:39:32Speaker 8: And all of this is happening because it seems like
- 1:39:35Speaker 8: Shannon Sharp made some poor choices and being fifty four
- 1:39:38Speaker 8: at the time.
- 1:39:38Speaker 6: Hollering at a nineteen year old, it's a very poor choice. Okay,
- 1:39:44Speaker 6: it is what it is.
- 1:39:45Speaker 8: No, Yes, it's a shakedown, but you know people can't
- 1:39:48Speaker 8: shake you down or let you give him something to shake.
- 1:39:50Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we don't know what it is yet. Let
- 1:39:54Speaker 3: the facts play out in court.
- 1:39:55Speaker 6: It's definitely a shakedown.
- 1:39:56Speaker 3: Well we don't know if. I mean, we don't know
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: if it's true and.
- 1:39:58Speaker 6: Not fifty million dollars.
- 1:40:00Speaker 3: Okay, So what you're talking about.
- 1:40:02Speaker 8: Me because if there was, if there was a violation,
- 1:40:07Speaker 8: it wasn't a shakedown, then she'd be pressing criminal charges
- 1:40:10Speaker 8: that might be coming next.
- 1:40:11Speaker 7: I don't know, but you did that That's why I
- 1:40:12Speaker 7: asked you yesterday. I asked could they still press charges
- 1:40:14Speaker 7: on them criminally?
- 1:40:16Speaker 4: I mean some of the stuff is as recent according
- 1:40:18Speaker 4: to the victim as January twenty twenty five. So I mean,
- 1:40:21Speaker 4: I don't know every law in the world, but that's
- 1:40:23Speaker 4: that's like a couple months ago. I don't see why
- 1:40:25Speaker 4: not right, and just why I would have to look
- 1:40:27Speaker 4: up the laws in the battle though, and I and
- 1:40:28Speaker 4: talk to the attorneys.
- 1:40:29Speaker 7: My Bible says it's a twenty year statue when it
- 1:40:32Speaker 7: comes to sexual assault.
- 1:40:33Speaker 8: And just hearing the lawyer say out of his own
- 1:40:36Speaker 8: mouth that they was close to a ten million dollars settlement.
- 1:40:40Speaker 8: Why you know, like when you when you settled, it
- 1:40:43Speaker 8: looks like an admission of guilt or innocent.
- 1:40:46Speaker 6: Why would you settle?
- 1:40:47Speaker 7: Or if he does settle it, it doesn't have other
- 1:40:50Speaker 7: people come out, right. They always say, Michael Jackson settled
- 1:40:52Speaker 7: out that one case so other people wouldn't come out.
- 1:40:54Speaker 6: No, that's not what they said.
- 1:40:56Speaker 8: Johnny Cochran actually told Michael not to settle because as
- 1:40:59Speaker 8: soon as you settle, you come a pigurement. But everybody
- 1:41:01Speaker 8: and their mama gonna be coming out with their hand
- 1:41:04Speaker 8: out and accusations.
- 1:41:05Speaker 2: People coming out regardless if that's what they want to
- 1:41:07Speaker 2: do at this point in our day and age.
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: But can't be guys, remember when remember the Cassie he settled?
- 1:41:13Speaker 1: Did he settle with her? And then all real day
- 1:41:16Speaker 1: came like, oh, I.
- 1:41:17Speaker 2: Want everybody came she got three hundred dollars and she
- 1:41:20Speaker 2: was like, excuse me, arial die. She then gave her
- 1:41:24Speaker 2: three hundred dollars. So what the damn Masters was worth?
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: It was?
- 1:41:29Speaker 2: I think it was like three yea, three hundreds.
- 1:41:31Speaker 6: I was about to look at but that with that
- 1:41:33Speaker 6: to your point, did he settle with Cassie? And then
- 1:41:35Speaker 6: what happened?
- 1:41:35Speaker 3: Everybody came out?
- 1:41:36Speaker 2: Okay, like I want my page.
- 1:41:37Speaker 8: But if he was going to settle, he should have
- 1:41:39Speaker 8: set up before it was a lawsuit kit. Yeah, behind
- 1:41:40Speaker 8: the scenes, the scene. That's why they don't make no sense.
- 1:41:42Speaker 8: That's why none of this makes any sense to me.
- 1:41:44Speaker 2: Suggests it was justice corrected.
- 1:41:46Speaker 4: It was three hundred dollars and thirty cents for she
- 1:41:48Speaker 4: got the thirty cents, but that was the because she
- 1:41:51Speaker 4: didn't sign that whole deal with the NBA and the
- 1:41:54Speaker 4: Masters and all that stuff.
- 1:41:54Speaker 2: But yes, just three hundred dollars and thirty cents through
- 1:41:57Speaker 2: all that for three hundred dollars. And Ryan Coogler is
- 1:41:59Speaker 2: thirty eight years old. Okay, okay, and happy birthday, George pay. Yeah,
- 1:42:03Speaker 2: we'll be back with more.
- 1:42:07Speaker 1: Yeah, because we were he had on the summer road
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: a couple of the birthday. I gotta know the Mexican's birthday.
- 1:42:13Speaker 9: Oh my god.
- 1:42:13Speaker 7: All right, well that is the latest with Lauren and Lauren.
- 1:42:15Speaker 7: You also talked about earlier that John Cena follows you.
- 1:42:18Speaker 2: Yeah, Envy, don't do that.
- 1:42:22Speaker 8: Nothing nothing that Johnson to follow everybody was a million
- 1:42:27Speaker 8: follows me, Charlie find.
- 1:42:29Speaker 2: I don't know, excited, you know what?
- 1:42:37Speaker 4: You know what just recently talked about getting hair plugs
- 1:42:40Speaker 4: and and bringing back hair.
- 1:42:42Speaker 6: So you follow him?
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: Maybe you know he follows you.
- 1:42:45Speaker 6: Maybe you should d.
- 1:42:45Speaker 3: M wow, Envy, you got so we have when he
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