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Episode 76: Reviewing "Tales of the Jedi" · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello, there. It's time for most things
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Kenobi. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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episode of most things Kenobi. A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi
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in all things Star Wars. I'm your host Leanne and I'm
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your host Lauren. And this week, we are reviewing
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the entirety of the tales of the Jedi which was just released.
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There are six episodes. They're all short, they're all
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heavy. And they all have a little
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snippet or little tidbit of interest to them.
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But man, I have some feels which you already know.
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Yeah. Yeah I know you and I haven't
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really talked about it too much, but know what was your like
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overall. Take that you watch them all at
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once. I'm assuming right?
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Yes. All at once.
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Yeah, I did too. So, like when you were done like
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how did you feel? Terrible.
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Yeah, like really down really terrible.
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Like I didn't need any of that. I didn't need any of that in my
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life, I guess. Yeah, let's get this out of the
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way. It was visually stunning.
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Oh, yes. I enjoyed the stories.
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The story telling the animation is obviously a throwback to the
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old clone wars, which I am always here for ya, man.
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That shit was a dark as fuck. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's celebration filoni said like this is not Clone
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Wars. Feel good like this.
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He was just like, don't expect to feel cheerful.
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Like these are not happy stories.
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Right? And he was correct and he was
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not kidding. No, he wasn't kidding at all.
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And here's the thing I like dark.
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Mmm. I didn't like this.
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Okay. I did like some things I did
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like something but I have a lot of feelings.
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Yeah. What was your overall feeling?
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Did you wash them all at once? I did.
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What was your initial thought? I feel like sad bum to say this.
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I was underwhelmed. Yeah, yeah honestly.
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I thought I hate to be this person but I feel like the
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storytelling was super weak all throughout.
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Well, I could listen, I believe in the weakness unless they're
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going towards something, which there's only six episodes.
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So yeah. But like are they doing more?
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that's the case.
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Then it was like. Okay well that was that, right?
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So the That I got at Celebration, filoni was flying
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back and forth from San Francisco to LA, I believe he
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said for the Mandalorian so he was going.
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So he was flying a lot back and forth.
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So he started writing these little vignettes while he was
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traveling. So I don't know if he's planning
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to do more. These were kind of, like,
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products of his imagination to keep himself entertained, and
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then he brought them to. I think it was a Athena is one
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of their producers. Sirs, I can't remember.
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It was her or the other when there's two women that he brings
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with him to cons all the time of their brilliant super-smart
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really interesting to listen to. It's not us, he didn't choose
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us. What is that?
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If he had, I would have helped tighten some of these stories up
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a little bit, but he just said, like, I have these ideas, can we
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do it? And they're like, yeah, we'll
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find a way to do it and he said, lucasfilm like they pretty much
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always say like yes, we'll find a way.
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They don't like saying, No, that's not possible.
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They always try to say, yes, we'll find a way to do
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something, so I appreciate that. And these are beautifully made,
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you can tell they were done with love and care.
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And yes, the kind of reminiscent to me of like, Japanese films.
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Oh, that's a good point. Yes, yes, yes.
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Which makes like old like old ones like 1940s 1950s like the
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yeah. Kurosawa type stories which
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makes sense because Of felonious background.
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And I know he loves anime and stuff like that.
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So, well, that if you have put a little perspective on it.
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Yes, yes. If you look at it that way, it
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kind of. I understand.
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It doesn't mean I, I liked them necessarily.
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Well I I could have envisioned it like this.
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Do six episodes on the beginning of Ahsoka, then season to do six
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episodes on the beginning of Dooku.
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Then season 3, do six episodes on You know, whatever else?
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Yeah, they were all over the place, weren't they?
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They were, there was I saw what they were doing because it was a
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progression, kind of of Ahsoka is born.
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And then do Co is turning like that's kind of like happening at
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the same time. I think the timeline works out.
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Yes, yes. And then Qui-Gon dies and then
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you know, we Padawan Ahsoka with With former Padawan, and again,
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and mullet. One is a mullet, Obi-Wan, not
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enough Obi-Wan, as usual. Of course, not like they just
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that, I don't know why. We need an Obi-Wan, baby story.
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Please seriously, this was brought up at our patreon
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Halloween party, the during the Sith, Lord episode, the one
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where Qui-Gon dies, like open ones in the temple there.
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Mhm, mhm. I know the story is not about
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him. The story is about Dooku, but
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like, we could also and another thing which guess Journey
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brought this up, I just totally right.
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They're Predicting their own timelines because in the Sith
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Lord Dooku is at the Jedi Temple by that time, he's not a Jedi
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anymore. So why is he there By the time,
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the book Padawan takes place. Like that newer only one book.
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They've there's a reference in there, apparently.
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I haven't read it yet, but this is what I've heard.
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There's a reference that Dooku is no longer with the order.
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Hmm. Actually, that's the case in
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master and Apprentice. Also, if you think about that
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book Dooku has already left and Qui-Gon has been trying to get
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in touch with him, and he won't return his calls.
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It's coasting quite on, what the fuck.
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Okay, alright, okay, so I'm confused, why he's at the
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temple? Even though that was my favorite
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episode. I really like, okay, that was
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that was probably my second favorite sits at I only, like
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two episodes. So I'm not going to say it was
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my second. Episode but I really liked that
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moment that he was like Qui-Gon is one with the force now and
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he's looking at the tree where the leaves are falling and
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reminiscing and it was very non Dooku ish, which I liked I like
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to see that kind of stuff. All right, so let's start from
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the top before we get any further.
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Yeah, right. Sorry.
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I'll go through, we'll go through each episode kind of
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give our thoughts, see where we end up.
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Starting with season 1 episode, 1 life and death.
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This is basically ahsoka's beginning.
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Mmm. Absolutely.
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Beautiful visuals. Yeah, like, I want to live in
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that Village. I loved I loved the tribal
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elements. I loved seeing togruta is in a
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different setting, kind of the village leaning on each other
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and celebrating together. I love stuff like that.
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You know, one with nature and everything.
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I absolutely hated the episode hated it.
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Honestly, I thought it celebration and it really moved
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me to tears and It just goes to show you how to like your
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emotions are really high at a place.
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Like in that situation with celebration and re-watching, it,
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I kept thinking about you watching it because I was like
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this is actually pretty graphic to watch terrible, an animal
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like that. Like I kill it, they didn't kill
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it, they let it suffer and let you listen to It's breathing.
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And then killed it. That was two.
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I was ready to turn it off after like right band I was like fuck
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this fuck this episode fuck who like look I love you Dave filoni
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but gratuitous. Okay.
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Clarence agrees. Don't know if you heard that or
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not. I didn't.
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Okay. I fucking hated it.
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I hate anything that shows an animal like that, and okay, put
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aside your personal feelings lie in this was to show a Sokka that
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in life, there is death and without death, there is no life
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and then without life there's no death, blah, blah blah, don't
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fucking show me this shit. I don't come to Star Wars to
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listen to a pained animal heavy breathing.
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Last breath and then watch it. Get stabbed, I'm not here for
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that. You can make the point without
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it. Fuck this episode.
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Yeah. I feel the same that they could
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have made the point without the animal still being alive in the
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grass. That was just fucking shoot.
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It be dead. They didn't show the bullet
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going in the animal. Gee.
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Thanks, but they showed it suffering.
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How cool. Fuck this episode.
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That's the thing. Like it's one thing to Like she
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has to get comfortable with death, and that's why she's not
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afraid of death. Is because her mother taught her
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that, like Fulani said, this it celebration.
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That was the whole point, was that her mother taught her, that
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not the Jedi. Fine.
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Fine. Do we have to like, force the
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baby to watch the animal suffer and then like the mother stands
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it? Like it's different because it's
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not like It's not like they're killing for sport, you know,
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they're killing for survival, it's part of their life and it
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keeps them alive and like even to this day if you're eating an
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animal, obviously it's a life that you're taking like you
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should be showing gratitude for that, but it was still like I
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don't want to see this shit like couldn't couldn't you just show
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them fire the gun and then the animals.
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Said like we didn't see it. Dad.
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I like that word. That was too much.
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The pretty was really. It was too much.
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I will say that. Ahsoka's mother is a fucking
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bad-ass. It's very evident where she gets
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it. Um, yeah.
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But Jesus Christ. Yeah.
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Not my favorite episode. Probably my least favorite
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episode in this entire series. I liked that the that it was all
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like female based you know it was like the village Elder was
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the woman and that the mother is taking the young daughter out to
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go hunting as a rite of passage. I just like that.
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Filoni especially because we I've heard him say this that
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like women can do whatever men do and that's why he loved Lord
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of the Rings you know the reasons.
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And so he just doesn't write with those boundaries and I
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really appreciate it. It's really refreshing but at
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the same time I did like watching an animal suffer.
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I don't like that. Like not even if you say a
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prayer or they chanted a little bit before they stuck the knife
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in. That's fine.
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It's all good. Didn't need it.
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Don't like it. Yeah.
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Alright, episode 2 is titled Justice.
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This was heavy. Yeah.
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This was Dooku and Qui-Gon going to the village.
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That gave me very like American Dust Bowl, poverty.
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Starvation old west, like silver mining towns that were low on
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food. Everything was grey and wasted.
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The dog had its Pine sticking out because it was hungry.
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Yes, people had cave. In faces looking like skeletons.
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Are this is a lot. I thought it was funny that they
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had an actual dog. Yeah.
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And I'm like, I also Star Wars. Duh.
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I was like, what the fuck? It's an actual dog.
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Like, yeah, I didn't like this episode at all.
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I thought I didn't know where it was going.
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Why it went that way? It was.
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I didn't understand. I don't use bluff for me.
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Yeah, it was very myth and it was like too much condensed into
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us. Trying to like tell a big idea
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in a very condensed story and I don't think it was, I don't
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know. I was just like, why is this
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different than any other horrible thing they've seen?
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Yeah, true. All the Senators are corrupt.
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This experience is the one that's like hitting at home for
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Dooku. Why?
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It wasn't even that particularly different in my opinion than any
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other situation we've seen also, why did Dooku look like Adam
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Driver? I couldn't stop looking at him.
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He looked exactly like Adam Driver in this episode.
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You're right now that you say that like looking at the can
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also Qui guns voice was just, it was not right.
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I know it was his son but they don't even have the same accent
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and they don't have the same vocal range even if Qui-Gon was
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young. He's very clearly a teenage boy
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almost in his 20s in this queue. George and his chest was
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visible. Yeah, well, it is in Phantom
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Menace. Oh, it is.
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Oh, oh yeah. Okay, I didn't recall that.
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I was just distracted by the, the chest that was but yeah,
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okay, it's probably like a little more visible here but
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Qui-Gon was very Breezy when people just very very easy and
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is Halloween Halloween and is Hawaiian shirts.
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Oh my God Breezy. Even then I don't know, I wish
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they had like modulated The Voice or like combined, his
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voice with Liam Neeson's voice somehow it was very, very hard
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for me to see him. Look really he looked great.
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You looked like Liam Neeson and then have another Voice come out
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of him. I was just like, this is really
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disorienting, I don't like em nice and did the voice of
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Qui-Gon, in the other episode. So, like he was there, why
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didn't they just, you know, like, they tweak Mark Hamill's
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to make him sound younger. Yes, I do not weekly and I don't
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know. With maybe they just wanted to
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get his son in there and I guess.
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Yeah, it was no deeper than that.
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But well like hit his mother is Miranda.
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Was Miranda Richardson. She's passed away and like he
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sounds more like her. Liam Neeson.
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So I don't know. Not to be an a-hole but it was,
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it took me out of it like every time he spoke it took me out of
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the experience because he didn't sound even remotely.
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Correct but he did a fine job but I don't know and journey
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made a great point to that. I laughed really hard at When
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the father arrives he just started shooting without even
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knowing where his son is. Oh yeah for sure.
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Oh yeah. And like gives those villagers
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meant business for real. They just kill that kid as soon
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as I opened fire on them because clearly they were making no
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progress. I don't know if it's just they
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kidnap him and he's on their side but they still keep him
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tied up in the barn and he's okay with it.
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Oh but I love the Droid the to do.
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What's his name two-ton if his great.
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Yeah, I didn't catch the name, I think it was.
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And that it was, he was cute. He look, if anyone out there has
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ever played the PlayStation game, Horizon zero Dawn and you
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know the shell Walkers. It was an exact copy of what the
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shell Walker's. Look like so nice.
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Are just giant crabs, like, massive Droid clams.
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So, it's right for crabs, not clams, crabs.
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Sorry wrong. Shellfish are mollusk or
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whatever the hell it's called, but not an expert.
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Okay, so that's followed up by the episode choices, which is
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continuing Dooku story about and he doesn't look as much like
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Adam Driver in this one because his hair is getting longer.
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Yeah. And I'd like Corey Burton.
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You could tell was modulating his voice to sound younger and
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then get older. We're search new iteration.
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So I mean, he's so crazy talented, it's insane.
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But I did like this episode as much as I dislike Mace Windu, I
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can't stand. Mace And the same, he's just
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just whatever. Well, when Dooku said to him,
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like you're the way you follow rules can be infuriating and I
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was like here. Yes, that's how I feel too.
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Well, I mean there's an obvious parallel there between like a
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Dooku is Anakin. And when do is Kenobi, you know,
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in the way that they follow rules or not follow rules, or
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take Liberty with rules, obviously, you know, much
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different still, but But that basic theme is there.
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But I did love Dooku's like investigative research skills
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but that was very good. Yeah, you know that was
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interesting. Had they not taken the time to
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do that, they wouldn't have found out, you know the cause of
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death of this Jedi. I just think it's interesting
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that Dooku cared to find out and Windu didn't true.
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Well when this is why I don't like mace window.
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He is so tunnel-visioned. That he can't he'd it's like he
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has blinders on at all times. Yeah.
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It's frustrating because even as like audience members, you can
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see possibilities that he doesn't want to see it all, you
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know, because he's got as blenders on its really
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frustrating. Yeah.
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And now we know how he got his seat on the council.
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Yeah, that conversation was interesting when Dooku was like,
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did you know about that before we even went on the mission, I
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loved that Dooku. Has the spine to say that kind
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of shit. And just not be worried about
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angering people. I don't think Mace Windu is the
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kind of person who would take advantage of somebody's death.
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I really don't. I think I don't like Dooku was
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kind of seeing what he wanted to see there but I absolutely think
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he backed he bad talked or badmouth Dooku when he wasn't
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lit when he wasn't in the room. I mean, for sure.
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And you see that even in Attack of the Clones, yes.
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When Mace Windu shows up on Geonosis and he comes out that
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tension between him and Dooku is still Are you could just tell
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they just get under each other's skin.
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You know. He gets under my skin, honestly.
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Yeah. But I also found it interesting
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when they buried the Jedi how they did it.
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Is that how they did it for all Jedi?
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They put them down in the ground and then a light shines through.
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Are they like cremating them? Yeah.
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Is there a sinner rating them? Okay, they did that to Obi-Wan
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when he faked his death right, but I didn't Don't like I guess
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I didn't put it together, wasn't so obvious to me you know, but I
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loved the light because light is often associated with Jedi with
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the fours. We talk about it all the time on
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the show and in Star Wars so I do like I like that.
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Yeah. Well okay.
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Also, like it was cool and that scene because you saw the other
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Jedi who were there and like master sinube was there.
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Yeah I heard. That Master sinube was supposed
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to have a bigger role, like he was in the later episode with
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the SoCo, but he did speak know and it's weird because it seemed
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like he was training a so cannot to jump ahead.
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But like Ahsoka seem to like not really know him later in the
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Clone Wars where they had that episode together.
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It's got a beard Jocasta, new had a speaking role.
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Oh yeah. I don't really like her either.
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She's kind of like she's like polite.
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Rude. Well, she's a librarian.
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So of course she has to be, you know, that's how I picture it.
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The stereotypical like librarian.
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Yeah. It's like she's being civil but
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also being kind of bitchy at the same time.
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But yeah. Well shit, she became a Jedi and
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they stuck her in the archives. I would be bitter too what she
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was on the council. I thought like years prior well,
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maybe maybe she To be removed shit, just send me to the
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library for gus. Please get me mad here.
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Okay, well, I like Traxxas, I thought it was beautiful.
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I thought oh God. Worry the story was kind of like
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again it's fine again, I don't know.
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Like we don't know who that Jedi was.
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That was dead. So the fact that it affected you
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goo and made him emotional. Like I couldn't connect with
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that, I don't know who it was. I don't really know that much
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about do. Cuckoo now that we've literally
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I well unless you've read Jedi lost or whatever that book is
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about him, which I haven't. So I'm have it.
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I don't know that much about him, I'm not that mostly
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invested, I will say they made him seem more sympathetic like a
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sympathetic character and this and I think humanized them.
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Yeah. And you're like starting to
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understand a little more, I guess, but I don't know that
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whatever. That's why he likes the next
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episode. The most I think that episode
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for the Sith Lord. Yes.
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This was a good episode and very dark.
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Yes. Oh my God.
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It was very dark because Bleak but they showed they made do
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Goosey more human because you saw that he actually really
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cared about Qui-Gon. Yeah yeah that was different
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because other Jedi try to pretend like they don't or maybe
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they don't actually have feelings like think of like
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luminara with beerus, right? No feeling at all.
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Yeah. She came two shits about Paris
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seriously her Bears was buried alive and she's like well It is
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the will of the force that we gotta get going.
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See you later, yeah. Sorry, it's insane.
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Jesus. Yeah, I liked that scene where
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they showed Qui gonn. Speaking to do good that was
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cool. Hmm a Qui gonn look really good
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in the anime really good. It looked great we got to see
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cattle which is great. She's a tough bitch.
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Yeah. Okay.
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I couldn't care less honestly and she did such a good job that
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I actually liked her like I didn't give two shits about the
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scarce or not at all until. Now why do we care?
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But now we do in just a brief appearance.
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Yeah she was this close to stopping.
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Yeah, I mean she didn't stand a chance will say that but she was
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this close, she figured it out. She took the time to follow to
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understand what was going on and then died trying to stop it.
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And that's very, very Just respectable to of all my
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respect, goes out to you at all but at the same time what a
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fucking cruel ass death. Well it's actually a really
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similar to the animal that died in the first episode because
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like you think she's dead and then she's not and then he puts
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her out of her misery and it's just like wow I didn't realize
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like didn't think they were going to kill her that brutally
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it was I mean it was bad enough that you got like as soon as she
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fell into those. As doors.
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I was like, this is not gonna be good.
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No. And we're gonna watch it because
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these are dark. Yeah, it was very dark, but it,
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I did love the force theme as she's lifting, the great up that
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little little thing that she is, and she made like one final
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stand and then got her head chopped off.
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And she was trying to appeal to Dooku saying that like, she
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understood and, and offering him like, Lucian.
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And like you can you can make all of this better by turning.
25:34
And you can see him hesitate. You could see he there was.
25:38
This is how it always goes with these guys.
25:40
That turn dark. There's always a moment
25:43
hesitation. And yet somehow they're pulled
25:45
into the dark side but fucking Sidious is always there.
25:50
Yeah, he's always there when it happened was such a good
25:54
performance though, by any McDermott.
25:56
Absolutely perfect. And I loved how they made him.
25:59
Look a little younger under that.
26:01
Yes. Yeah.
26:02
Because I guess this is pretty attack of the Clones, right?
26:04
He's not a hideous gargoyle yet he's just his usual self and
26:11
like to see him like dressed in the Sith.
26:14
Lord cloak, but having the Senators voice.
26:19
Yeah, I thought that was really a cool juxtaposition and it was
26:24
a different, like, more understated performance, but it
26:26
is still very cruel. And the way city is Twist people
26:30
by telling them the truth is smell.
26:34
So Arresting to me. Can I also just say that I wrote
26:37
this scene? Oh, this is the exact scene
26:42
basically from the last chapter of by the Dark Side of Obi-Wan
26:47
Kenobi. It's literally the same location
26:51
and everything. So maybe filoni is paying
26:56
attention. There's right right?
26:59
Give me crap. Why would a good episode girl?
27:02
Because they took your right a if you're gonna take my Dia of
27:05
like having your new Apprentice show up but also have a nice
27:08
Jedi following and you have to prove your loyalty by killing
27:11
the judge. I like that was my idea, but
27:14
it's fine. All right, all credit goes to
27:19
you because it was a good episode.
27:21
I'm awaiting my check. No, I like that one.
27:27
I think that one was my favorite.
27:29
The next one is up there with mine.
27:32
I mean, episode 40 was one of my favs episode.
27:34
If I was one of my favs, no, not because Anakin was in it.
27:38
But because of the symbolism, they tied it together, they wrap
27:43
it up and it's a big deal to me how tragic the ending is that we
27:51
know and season 7 of Clone Wars, how Ahsoka had to fight off the
27:55
Clones that she literally practiced with.
27:59
And the fact that it was Anakin who Rather roughly trained her.
28:08
But I get his point like I understand, you know, you gotta
28:13
get up, you gotta fight. You got to do this because
28:16
you're going to be in a position where it's not Droid balls
28:19
firing at you, right? You're not going to be expecting
28:22
this. You have to read the people
28:24
around you and it turned out to be the clones and they're all
28:27
happy and joking and Rex's there and we're all happy.
28:29
Everyone's happy again and we're rooting for Ahsoka and then the
28:33
very end, she's literally walking into what ends up being
28:38
the Very end of the Clone Wars and they're all going to try and
28:40
kill her. That is why I liked this episode
28:43
because it had a direct connection and the fucking irony
28:47
of it all that. The sadness in the fact that
28:49
Anakin was trying to protect her and Anakin caused all this.
28:53
Like it's just so fucked and that's why I love it.
28:56
Yeah that without that ending I think this would have been a
29:00
much weaker story, much weaker. The fact that they showed they
29:05
tied it to season seven You made it really beautiful.
29:10
Yeah. And just a touch of season seven
29:12
at the end. They didn't have to replay it.
29:14
They we all know what happened in season 7.
29:17
We all know. Yeah, just enough.
29:20
Just enough. And to have Rex say like I do
29:24
that training pays off now. What like that's just terrible.
29:31
But man, can she fight watching Ahsoka?
29:34
Fight is one of the finest things in Star Wars.
29:38
Yeah, and her outfit. Look way cooler.
29:40
Way. Cooler tube top that they had
29:43
her in. Yeah, fix that.
29:46
I was really annoyed with this, until they tied it to season
29:51
seven, because no one did that. Toby one.
29:56
No, one trained Anakin that way, and they were fine in battle.
30:00
So, Why be so hard on Ahsoka? Like, I felt like there should
30:05
have been a moment where she was like when she was saying this is
30:09
impossible. And again should have had to do
30:11
it and prove to her that it is possible.
30:13
True. It also takes me back to when
30:18
they eventually get to mortise and her her figure her her Her
30:25
vision of her own ourselves like you.
30:29
You're a master asked too much of you or expects too much of
30:32
you or something that kind of played into that.
30:34
Yeah, he's actually putting you in danger.
30:37
Yes, yes, exactly. So, I thought of that watching
30:40
the episode, but I also saw that You know Vader's ruthlessness
30:46
that comes out. Mmm.
30:48
Just the non-stop. Yeah, just go, go go like
30:54
never-ending pain and stuff. That was kind of a little nut, a
30:58
little nugget of that. Yeah.
31:00
Anakin's young at this point. Like, younger lie.
31:04
I loved his hair, his yummy, much better than Obi-Wan's, but
31:09
the, I did like that actually. It kind of made me a little bit
31:15
afraid of Anakin. Right.
31:18
Because it's like he's like being a really ruthless teacher
31:22
and like I wouldn't Thrive with a teacher like, that, that would
31:25
actually break my spirit. So I don't know what that says
31:29
about Ahsoka, but it says a lot about Anakin to want to do this
31:33
and trained. Her this way, is kind of a sign
31:36
of his fear of loss as well. I was just going to say he's so
31:40
afraid of losing that he'll go to any lengths to ensure.
31:44
That he doesn't lose her. Yeah but he does it through his
31:48
own doing oh my God I love this character but like when he's
31:52
like again get up again, do it again again.
31:56
It's like a drill sergeant. Like, yeah.
31:58
How many times can you get stunned?
32:01
You know, that's the thing. I was like, is her health going
32:05
to be like, obviously her life isn't shortened?
32:08
Because she lives to be an old older character in the right
32:13
now. There's days but I just Like
32:15
maybe we should give her a break.
32:16
You think it's taking this a little bit far and it was like,
32:20
no, get back to work. I mean it was so lat.
32:23
Yeah. Yeah.
32:24
It was crazy. Well, in the fact that they're
32:26
like, in a hangar far away like, where Obi-Wan and none of the
32:31
other Jedi gravity toe kind of implies that he knew what he was
32:35
doing, wasn't quite a good thing, but I don't know.
32:39
I was really like I liked seeing 0 b 1 for 2 seconds and James
32:44
aren't Taylor's performance was great for the two lines.
32:47
They gave him. I know I wanted more.
32:50
Yeah like I don't know, they don't really see it and honestly
32:56
people have said like give us the OBT in the tales of the Jedi
33:00
is like don't do that. Like I don't trust you to do
33:03
that now. Oh you don't.
33:04
Well now that we've seen okay my initial reaction was yeah but
33:08
now that I see how dark this shit is, we already got the
33:10
darkest shit of him and Satine, so we're good.
33:14
We're Yeah, yeah. Like honestly, I'm afraid that
33:19
they won't tie it together. Strongly enough.
33:25
All right, so the last the last episode resolve didn't like this
33:31
episode either, but for anyone who's read the Ahsoka novel, it
33:35
plays into the Ahsoka novel. She's worried she's doing
33:38
nominal work across the Galaxy to stay out of hiding.
33:43
I did, okay, I liked that she was at padme's funeral because
33:50
she's a she was a they were friends.
33:53
Yeah, when she said that to bail her voice broke that actually
33:56
brought tears to my eyes, Ashley Eckstein is Ahsoka, hmm.
34:01
To the end of time and she proved it.
34:04
But number one, Ahsoka would not be that stupid and careless.
34:09
Exactly. And be like, right in the front,
34:11
right? Right.
34:13
Bill or Ghana, would not be so stupid as to go and find her.
34:17
Yeah, there's too many goddamn potential round.
34:21
Yeah, he would have known better.
34:24
And they almost got caught, you know, it's just like and the way
34:29
he was doing the dialogue talking to the two Troopers, I
34:33
did like that and I thought like a trooper would know what he was
34:37
doing. Like, it wasn't that clever,
34:40
it's like you're talking gibberish to me because you were
34:42
over here talking to somebody else.
34:44
Like are they on the roof? Like you have every right there,
34:47
but there's they can't even shoot On Target.
34:50
You know? Like they're clones though.
34:52
They weren't Troopers that it's just made nitpicking.
34:56
No lie. I liked, I liked seeing that.
34:59
She was still with Rex. Oh yeah.
35:01
Yes. Was I felt very comforted
35:04
knowing that like she and Rex didn't just like part ways
35:07
immediately at least they were like, still together for a
35:09
little while. But also, like, like you said, I
35:12
felt like that was really a overly.
35:14
Exposing the character I had to know.
35:16
It didn't seem true to the character, honestly, I like
35:20
that. They did it though, because It's
35:23
like, it would that was her mother in this lifetime, Ahsoka
35:28
had a biological mother but she doesn't remember her.
35:30
Yeah, but she does remember padmé and she lost both her
35:33
parents. Technically, you know, Anakin
35:35
and Padme and I thought it was very sweet and actually Padme in
35:41
the what is that her procession her, you know, to the To where
35:48
she's going to be for the rest of her days.
35:51
She looks very beautiful. They did a good job like
35:53
mimicking. Hmm, Revenge of the Sith.
35:58
I just I don't know. I just don't think Asoka would
36:04
have been that careless. Yeah, I don't think she would
36:09
have been that close. If she was there, she wouldn't
36:11
have been close, but I feel like she would have gone back like,
36:16
after this another time. Yeah.
36:18
When there was no one there, you know, to visit the tomb on her
36:21
own, which I suppose, I don't know, there was the guard right?
36:24
Don't they like leave a guard of her handmade Rihanna is amazing.
36:27
She couldn't have done that but I don't know.
36:30
I felt like the beginning of the episode like it should have been
36:33
two episodes. It should have been that true
36:36
like and Wash that out a little flesh that out a little more and
36:40
then it should have been the. Farm story should have been its
36:44
own sir. There were so separate honestly
36:46
the only thing tying them together was Bales comlink and
36:51
like a Soca deciding she was ready to fight again but they I
36:54
don't know. It just really didn't feel like
36:56
a tight connection. It was they felt like two
36:58
different stories and we also added oh, I would not have given
37:03
the guy who turned me in and killed an entire Village.
37:07
A Rite of Passage would bail Organa fuck him.
37:10
Yeah that Yuki he can't be trusted.
37:15
That's the thing, like I felt the same that he couldn't be
37:18
trusted. Of course she would be a Jedi
37:21
you know she would be what she's not a Jedi.
37:25
No right. She says babe, no Jedi.
37:28
But yeah, the very fact that the entire Village was destroyed and
37:32
killed. Yeah, that was horrifically
37:35
honestly. Yeah.
37:37
And they show droids dying. Can we fucking stop?
37:42
Like one fell over? We on fire and he was still
37:46
trying to like carry bales of hay.
37:48
I hate that. Yeah, I'm not trying to be
37:52
negative folks. I'm just telling you, this was a
37:55
lot and all at once it was even more.
37:59
Yeah, and it's it's interesting because filoni is the one who
38:03
always says that Star Wars is supposed to leave you feeling
38:06
hopeful. He always says that this did not
38:11
know it, didn't it really didn't and like just because we End on
38:15
a so-called deciding to go back into the cause and fight like a,
38:20
we know that that means she's stepping into the timeline of
38:22
rebels. You know, at that point like
38:25
it's not enough to leave me feeling all warm and fuzzy
38:27
inside. No.
38:30
Yeah, I don't know. I liked how she handled The
38:34
Inquisitor fantastically in two seconds.
38:38
Mean it was awful. It was just like Vader in Kenobi
38:42
when he basically disarmed. Eva waiting without the playing
38:47
around that Vader did right. It actually reminded me of
38:51
Obi-Wan, a mall from Rebel or that.
38:53
Yes. Because it was so fast there was
38:55
just like she's at the top of her game and this is no
39:00
challenge at all. This Inquisitor who was The
39:05
Inquisitor Clancy Brown who does sauvage oppressed?
39:10
I love that actor. I don't know if you're asking
39:13
the actor or like which Inquisitor well.
39:15
But I got Darth Revan vibes from the next me too.
39:20
That's what I thought. It was at first.
39:21
Yeah. The the mask was a direct copy
39:25
and I just was like, okay this is this is reminiscent.
39:32
Yeah, this Inquisitor is fanboying.
39:34
There are three yeah basically. Yes.
39:39
I mean they, I know they all had like different helmets in
39:42
different phases or whatever. But that was a Yeah that was a
39:45
little nod to revving, I'm guessing.
39:48
Yeah. Yeah it was cool like that whole
39:50
sequence the lightsabers in this like the duel with Dooku and
39:56
Mace Windu. I was a good racks is like so
39:59
cool like the the combat was really cool.
40:02
The animations better than ever with that because out of the
40:04
Mist like purple and blue like appeared and then they you know,
40:08
twirl people around and stuff. It was really great.
40:10
But yeah, yeah so the we're good Builder moments but overall For
40:15
me, I'm writing this a 6 out of 10.
40:18
Yeah. Like maybe if they have another
40:21
season because as much as I love filoni this is so common season.
40:28
One is kind of like me think of season.
40:32
One of the Clone Wars. Yes, it gets started really
40:34
slow. Yeah and almost everyone I know
40:38
who I tell to watch Clone Wars the kit get through season one.
40:41
I have to be like just go to season to start there and then
40:43
you might want to go back right? And I honestly felt season 1 of
40:48
Mandalorian was slow season to made me started to tie it all
40:52
together. So it's more interesting.
40:55
I don't know it if there's a season 2 it takes too long to
40:59
get started. Like the story is take too long
41:02
to like start with building and start Ty, I don't know.
41:06
I just was underwhelmed, to be honest.
41:08
It was fine, it was good. It was a piece of art, that's
41:12
for sure, that is for sure. I mean felonious work is always
41:16
Is Artistic and well thought out and sometimes the execution is a
41:22
little off here with this one but it's also it's just our
41:25
opinion of it. I mean, we're not yeah.
41:28
Stamping it as terrible. It's just this is our opinion of
41:31
it. Considering the High Hopes I had
41:34
for it and I'm not even saying that it didn't meet my
41:36
expectations because I didn't know what to expect.
41:39
Honestly, I don't know. I thought the stories we're
41:42
going to be tighter honestly and they just kind of left me
41:46
feeling like why should I care? Yeah, I got you unless you are
41:50
ready. Love dugu.
41:52
Like maybe if you're Dooku fan already, this is amazing stuff
41:56
but I don't know, I don't really care.
41:59
I liked seeing Anakin and Ahsoka and Rex sounds great.
42:04
Yeah, I love that needs more Obi-Wan.
42:07
Yep. It's like a chef Mauro be one
42:11
shake somewhere. I'll be one in there.
42:13
Sprinkle sprinkle on season this up a bit, why not?
42:18
Yeah, I know I know I'm biased I guess but I'll be one makes
42:23
everything better. All right, so our question to
42:33
you is pretty obvious. What did you think of tales of
42:36
the Jedi? Did you like it?
42:37
Did you not like it? Did you like some more than
42:39
others? How did you feel on a on a scale
42:43
of 1 to 10, 10 being great. What did you sit?
42:47
What did you think? Let us know.
42:49
Yeah. And be.
42:50
Don't be shy like no hate here. No shade here, not at all
42:54
switch. It's a safe place to spend.
42:56
Your mind next week we have something a little lighter for
43:02
you. We want to kind of lighten the
43:03
mood a bit so we're going to discuss ob1 and Quinlan Vos has
43:07
relationship. There's some great stuff in
43:09
Clone Wars and this role will just have a chat about that and
43:13
hopefully laugh a little bit. Well, we can also talk about the
43:16
book where the Quinlan and his girlfriend.
43:21
Oh yeah. The dark disciple dark disciple.
43:25
Yes, there's some Obi-Wan, and Quinlan moments in that book as
43:29
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43:31
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