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Monday Night Hudl - Episode 2 · TDUK

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  Heat
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  up here.
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  It's working. Everything's going. We're
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  good. Welcome to Monday Night Huddle,
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  folks. uh pre-recorded episode. It may
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  be in a Friday, it may be in a Saturday,
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  it may be in a Sunday. The only way you
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  can tell is by jumping in on recording.
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  Uh okay. So, today I've got with me uh
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  Lee. Uh I've got James and I've got
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  Jack. Um and you guys are from
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  Lincolnshire Bombers. Is that correct?
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  It
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  >> is indeed.
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  >> It is indeed. It is indeed. How we
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  doing, boys? You okay?
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  >> Yeah, good, thank you. All good. Long
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  week, nice end to it, but yeah.
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  >> Okay. Um Jack, you are the OC. Is that
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  correct? That is indeed.
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  >> No worries, mate. How long have you been
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  doing coaching for me? How are you
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  finding it? You can't say terrible, by
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  the way.
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  >> Um, I mean, so I've been involved in
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  coaching, I'd say probably on and off,
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  five or six years total now. Um, I'm
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  really enjoying being with the Bombers.
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  I came in probably towards the end of
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  preseason last year, helped with the
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  offense. Um, ended up, uh, taking over
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  the play calling duties pretty early on.
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  um which was a great opportunity for me.
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  Um and then to to step into the full OC
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  role this year really really enjoying
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  it. It's always been like offensive side
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  of the ball has always been my passion
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  even from when I started playing youth
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  ball. Um and I've just gone from there.
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  I'm probably I'm a far better coach than
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  I ever was a player and it just keeps me
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  involved and I really enjoy it.
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  >> Okay. Um, what what position did you
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  play when you played?
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  >> So, I was a fullback for the PBR Saxons
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  youth team. Um, I uh sadly
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  thought it'd be a great idea to tear all
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  of my knee ligaments before my first
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  season. So, now I hold a clipboard and
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  tell people what to do instead. But, I
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  mean, that started way back then. Um,
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  >> I didn't want to leave the boys and
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  become a part of the group. It was just
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  such a great place to be, such a great
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  motivational thing for me to be a part
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  of as well. I'd never had a lot of joy
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  from team sports growing up. American
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  football was the first time I felt like
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  I found a place that I fit and so I
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  wanted to stay with the boys. I went
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  down training sessions. I put cones out
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  for the coaches and the coaches that
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  were there, they helped me learn, helped
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  me learn about the game more. I put a
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  lot of my time into learning about the
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  game to help everybody else get better.
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  And uh then after went off to uni,
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  worked for a few years, the um
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  the South Lightning started up down in
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  uh down in my hometown. So got involved
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  with them for a little bit and then uh
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  moved over to the Bombers. Well, like I
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  say, prop properly last season.
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  >> Lee, you got anything to say? Yeah, I
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  mean I mean you're talking about the
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  Saxons there. I mean that was one of the
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  first teams I applied to play for. Um
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  little did I realize that they actually
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  folded the season before I uh I I I was
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  I was sending emails to to nobody. Um so
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  yeah, I mean after that I I kind of then
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  found the cat. So um yeah, there was in
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  a in an alternate universe I would have
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  been playing for the Saxons myself as
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  well. Um but yeah, it's interesting
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  you're saying about the the Lynx uh
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  Lightnings. I think they they they
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  didn't quite work out, did they? Um they
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  were up in Bourne, if I remember right.
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  Is that right?
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  >> Yes, indeed. That that that's correct.
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  Uh that's where I hail from myself. Um I
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  think it was one of those where the
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  first season was a bit of a perfect
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  storm with it being a COVID year. We had
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  a lot of people coming in from other
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  teams to get more reps, things like
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  that. And the catchment area was just
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  never perfect for it. And um I think
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  potentially the the idea was take the
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  catchment area from from the Saxons, but
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  I I think ultimately uh that anyone that
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  was playing at that point had gone to
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  some of the more established outfits
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  like the Bombers, like like you say, the
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  Cats, teams in that area. Um but it was
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  good to be a part of to build that team
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  up from the ground and uh it was good
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  experience for me as a coach. um going
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  through the adversity, going through the
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  training sessions with 10 players there
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  and I'm I'm now very proud to be a
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  bomber and to uh be able to get to work
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  with a great group of lads every Sunday
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  is is just uh the highlight of my week
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  every week.
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  >> Good. I love that. I love that. Well,
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  James, we can't leave you out, mate. Um
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  so, obviously, let us know what
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  positions do you play.
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  >> Uh primarily quarterback. I can be a
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  receiver if needed, but
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  >> Okay. Okay. And um who's your team?
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  >> Uh you're wearing them.
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  >> Can you just say that out loud, mate?
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  Because this is on a podcast and people
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  can't see all my glorious Broncos.
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  >> Broncos. Boom.
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  >> Jack. Jack, who's your team by the way?
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  >> Um I think you'll you'll know about them
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  because we may have beat you in the AFC
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  Championship game.
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  Oh yeah, you got the free pass because
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  we had the QB injured and got your ass
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  slapped in the u by the way.
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  >> Apparently we got a free pass all season
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  due to the schedule.
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  >> No, we we we've spoke about it all
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  season. Um I thought I thought you were
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  really good. Um would have you have been
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  there if Bo Knicks had been there? I
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  don't think so, but I don't think the
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  Broncos would have won either. I think
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  the Seahawks were just the a perfect
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  team for the year. Um James, um how did
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  you get into football, mates? Give us
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  the lowdown of your career, buddy.
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  >> So, my interest started because my dad
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  lived over in the States. His dad was in
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  the RAF based over the Air Force
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  Academy.
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  >> Where else? In the States.
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  >> Uh that was in Colorado. So, obviously,
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  >> obviously he uh he was in Boulder.
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  >> Boulder.
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  >> So, he was obviously supporting the
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  Broncos at that time.
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  >> Brought that back home. Uh I started
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  getting into it
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  properly about Super Bowl 50.
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  >> Okay. Same. Same.
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  >> Hence why the
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  >> Yeah. Yeah.
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  >> Broncos as well. But um
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  >> yeah, and then it kind of spiral. I uh I
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  switched sports because of injury and
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  and whatnot and then lost interest in my
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  old sport and then I started at Brunell,
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  started playing, tried to be a
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  quarterback, ripped my arm to pieces,
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  ended up just playing receiver instead.
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  Uh and then when when I came when I
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  moved back home up here, contacted the
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  Cats and and got involved there. So that
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  was um yeah that was my kind of start of
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  the career and then from there yeah just
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  just uh season by season moving on.
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  >> Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. So J
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  feel free to to to let me know. Um I and
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  I I've asked I will be asking every
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  single team that that comes on the show.
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  Um what are the Bombers going to do this
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  season? What's the aim? Like so last
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  season you missed playoffs by literally
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  just missed the playoffs. Um obviously
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  it was a very tough division last
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  season. Leicester Panthers who arguably
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  could hold their own in the Prem were in
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  a div 2 um league. Um what's the aims
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  this season?
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  >> Well, I think um our aims this season
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  are to the biggest aims for this season
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  were to develop on where we felt we
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  struggled last year. That was the
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  biggest aim for us going into this sort
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  of offseason if you like. My biggest
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  focus was to develop on where I felt we
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  struggled last season. And
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  in my mind, if we could do that, then
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  there's no reason why we can't be in the
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  running in this division that we're in.
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  And and and be in a place to to be like
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  like like we mentioned to uh have played
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  uh five of our eight games last year
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  against teams that won their playoff
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  games. Uh it shows the strength of the
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  schedule that we faced and um we we felt
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  like we we probably could have given
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  ourselves a better showing in in a
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  couple of those games and I feel if we
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  if we correct um where we struggled last
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  year then we're in a position where we
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  feel like we can give anybody a run for
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  their money. And so the aim really this
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  year for me is to
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  >> is obviously development on both the
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  onfields and the understanding of the
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  game and to ultimately aim for those
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  playoffs that we narrowly missed out on
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  last year.
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  >> Yeah, I mean um for context for anyone
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  listening um Leicester won the playoff
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  game and the Gulag game. Um, Lanasher
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  Buccaneers won the playoff game and lost
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  the Gulag game after it was delayed um
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  to help Sheffield uh in one way or
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  another. Um still not bit about that. Um
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  but but no, I mean obviously I played
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  against you the first game. I didn't
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  play the the last game um due to work
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  commitments. I remember you having a
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  really good DNS. He was very quick and
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  nippy. Um,
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  and there was a really good level of
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  performance from you and I I I do think
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  that Humber team last season you'd have
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  beat that Humber team in the playoffs.
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  So, yeah, I I would be inclined to agree
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  and say you were in a very competitive
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  league. Now, I know you've you've said
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  to improve. Do you think the Bombers can
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  make the playoffs this season?
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  >> I think so. Yes.
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  >> Okay, James.
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  >> Yeah, 100%.
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  Okay,
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  >> I I I can say I I think they're making
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  the playoffs because I've I've seen some
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  of the signings that they've just uh
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  they obviously James
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  >> James obviously joining the the
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  quarterback room there this year is is
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  one hell of a signing. He won't say that
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  himself, but he's a hell of a QB.
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  >> Shut up.
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  >> His head has just gone like this.
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  >> He is he is the sort of QB that you
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  want, you know? He's mobile. He's got a
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  great arm. He's got good reads and his
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  accuracy is is on point. So, he is, you
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  know, for that club. You know, he's he's
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  played in the Prem, you know, he's I'm
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  talking about him. He's sat right there,
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  but, you know, he is he is a fantastic
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  player.
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  >> Like, who is this guy?
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  >> Who's this guy?
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  >> He's not been in practice. Where is he?
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  >> But also, I mean, you've got obviously
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  Kev Cunningham coming over from the from
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  the Knights as well. Um, now for those
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  who don't know who Kev Cunningham is,
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  um, you'll probably soon find out
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  because he is a beast. Um, to see that
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  man tackling in the open field is is is
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  just a joy to watch.
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  >> He is he is a beast. Um, and you know to
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  I played alongside him when he was at
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  the Cats and
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  >> you know he was just a joy to watch. Um,
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  so you know this the signings that that
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  you guys have made um is has been
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  fantastic and you know obviously we can
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  talk about the teams who you're playing
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  this year. Um so obviously you you're
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  going to be playing the the Bucks I
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  believe. Is that is that correct? Yep.
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  So you got the Bucks uh the the Humber
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  Warhawks Darlington Steam and Gay Head
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  Senators. So an interesting interesting
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  >> Huh?
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  >> Did you say Gay Head or Gates Head?
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  Gates head.
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  >> Don't don't mishap that one up. No,
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  Gates Head.
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  >> I have a I have a question for you
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  gents. Um because it's been a big topic.
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  It's still getting talked about. We
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  shared a post about it. Uh what do you
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  think of the Humber and Alpha merger?
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  What do you think? You know, obviously
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  it's another club. Brit Ball has lost.
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  Um for every club we get, we seem to
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  lose a club. what you what do you think
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  is going wrong at the moment? I'm going
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  to go to Jack first and then James if
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  you want to give your version of events.
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  >> Um well I think ultimately it's great
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  that the players um obviously it's it's
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  sad to see what happened with the
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  Alphas. Um um they they'd come such a
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  long way in such a short short space of
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  time. Um, and I think a lot of clubs can
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  aspire to to uh to achieve that level of
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  success. Um, I think on the other hand,
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  it's great that the players have all
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  managed to find somewhere to go so
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  they've not been left in the lurch and
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  don't have anywhere to play football
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  this year cuz that's what keeps it's the
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  players that keep the sport going and
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  and the players who pay their subs every
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  year and and buy their kit. um you you
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  always want players to to have a place
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  to play. So it is whether they've gone
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  over to to Yorkshire or on to Humber or
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  wherever they may go, it's great that
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  the players can can keep playing. Um
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  obviously it was quite a shock to see. I
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  um I was there for the Alphas playoff
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  game against the against the Knights.
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  Um, I watched that as a uh as a as a
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  fully neutral spectator myself just to
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  uh we we flew down there after a
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  training session to uh to to take in
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  some of the action. And for to see two
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  teams that were at that level um and
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  competing for the chance to get to the
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  Prem for one of them when you hear one
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  of them's not about anymore, it uh it is
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  a bit of a
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  it is a bit of a surprise to say the
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  least when I heard that news. Um, from
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  my point of view, um,
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  it doesn't really change too much. We're
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  going to prepare the same way that we
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  would for any game regardless of
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  whichever talent they come in. Uh, we
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  don't get to see it's it's not the NFL.
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  We don't get a transaction list of X, Y,
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  and Z that's joined club X, Y, and Z.
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  So, so we're not going to prepare
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  differently. we we will watch the film
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  that that we get from from their games.
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  If we get some, we'll get film from
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  previous games. We'll we'll prepare the
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  same way and and our focus is always
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  going to be on making sure our boys do
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  what we want them to do um going into
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  any game as well.
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  So, um
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  so, so yeah, it doesn't really change my
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  focus too much. I think obviously that's
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  a club that's got a lot of new talent
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  coming in. Uh, I'm sure they're going to
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  be thrilled with that and they're going
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  to prepare and go on with those new
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  talent in mind as well. But
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  >> like like you mentioned about we've
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  brought in a lot of players ourselves.
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  Um, not just the transfers, the rookies
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  as well.
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  >> Um, and I mean Kev was one that was
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  mentioned. It's fantastic for me to be
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  able to work with Kev again. Worked with
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  him at the Lightning and also um was on
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  his coaching staff with him with the
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  Peterbr Royals as well for a little bit.
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  So, I've known Kev for a few years and
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  um it's great to have players of his
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  caliber, players, players like James and
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  Dave Grave coming in as well over from
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  the Caesars as well as all the rookies.
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  And it's it's um it's everybody that's
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  come in that's that's put us in the
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  position where we are now and it's a
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  position where going back to what I
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  said, I genuinely believe that we we
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  will make the playoffs this year.
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  >> Good. Good. Uh FYI, part of me does
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  believe you. Uh I think I think you'll
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  do really well. Uh, I will go to James
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  in a moment. Um, I will say this, it's
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  become a bit of a trend in the last few
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  years for brick ball teams to announce
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  what signings they've made. Um, I've
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  seen a lot of players announcing Alpha
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  players. So, it'll be interesting to see
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  how many of them have said, "Yeah, I'll
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  drop to div 2." Or they'll go to someone
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  closer like, you know, Yorkshire Rams. I
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  know they've picked up a fair few
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  players. It's an interesting one. Um
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  because someone messaged me saying
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  that's not very fair and I'm like I'm
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  not bothered. I really don't care. U I
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  have a lot of love for the Alphas.
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  Warrick who was the previous coach there
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  and he's a cracking guy. Um and it's it
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  is sad to see. I do think there's a few
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  factors. The cost no one mentions the
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  cost of living crisis. Everything's gone
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  up apart from people's pay. Um so that's
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  going to be a huge factor to it. It
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  isn't a cheap sport to play. Um you you
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  know a a decent lid three400 pound but
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  James I want to go to you. What were
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  your thoughts in the mate? What do you
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  think is is is the reason we're losing
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  teams in brick ball.
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  >> Yeah I don't know. I think I mean it was
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  it was a weird it's been a crazy year.
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  >> Yes crazy year. I think it's been uh it
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  was weird being on the other side of
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  that loss against the Alphas being on
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  the Knights last year kind of thinking
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  that uh you know we were we were in
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  contention with that. It it ran away
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  from us. they were going up to the Prem
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  it was like fair play okay like can't
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  wait to see this you know next year and
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  then suddenly gone I
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  I don't know whether there should be
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  some sort of kind of infrastructure
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  ruling in place where you need to be
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  able to hit certain boundaries or
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  certain you know uh financial
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  like you know templates or whatever you
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  need to use but there just seems to be
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  there just seems to be this lack of kind
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  of infrastructure that we can actually
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  reach to Prem and then you know what
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  does it take to be in Prem I think is
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  what we need to know a clearer a clearer
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  way of doing so if that's something you
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  can work towards you can at least have
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  those boundaries to work towards and I
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  think that's that's what we're
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  struggling with at the minute is teams
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  just aren't prepared enough to go up to
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  Prem
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  >> the thing is I mean we we you know the
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  Cambridge accounts we we played them as
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  a preseason game last year and um you
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  know we went all the way up to to
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  Scunthorp to play Um, and they looked
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  like a really good outfit. You know,
• 18:43
  they had the numbers, they had the
• 18:45
  coaching staff, everything looked
• 18:47
  pretty much amazing. Um, and you know,
• 18:50
  I'm I'm friends with with uh with Lloyd,
• 18:53
  uh, who is an ex cat as well. Um, and
• 18:58
  you know, he just mentioned it was a
• 18:59
  perfect storm. You know, he had he had
• 19:01
  just enough of members who were uh, you
• 19:04
  know, sort of retiring, coming to the
• 19:06
  end of their playing season. uh their
• 19:09
  head coach decided, you know, that, you
• 19:11
  know, he he'd reached his his ceiling
• 19:14
  with with the Alphas and moved on. Their
• 19:16
  OC
• 19:17
  um had to had to step down as as the OC.
• 19:20
  And it's just everything seemed to be
• 19:23
  sort of falling into place where
• 19:24
  everything just went wrong all at the
• 19:26
  same time. Now, you know, the Cats in
• 19:30
  that preseason game, we got our we got
• 19:32
  our backsides handed to us. Uh we had a
• 19:37
  pretty bad off season last year. I can
• 19:39
  say that now because we were well and
• 19:41
  truly past that. Uh but our recruitment
• 19:44
  was terrible. We were um we we we failed
• 19:50
  to recruit successfully. We were turning
• 19:52
  up to games um with the minimum number
• 19:56
  of people required to play a game. Um,
• 19:59
  you know, when you're heading down to
• 20:00
  people like the London Warriors with 22
• 20:02
  people on your roster, it's
• 20:04
  >> there's no chance. There's no chance.
• 20:05
  You got
• 20:06
  >> Yeah, exactly. And it was the only thing
• 20:08
  that kept that club going was the the
• 20:10
  the the sheer grit and determination of,
• 20:14
  you know, the backroom staff, the
• 20:15
  coaches, the players to to finish off
• 20:18
  the season. Um, and we we got we got
• 20:21
  through it, you know, we didn't get
• 20:22
  relegated. We managed to stay in the
• 20:23
  Prem. And, you know, kudos to us. you
• 20:26
  know, we've we've had a a really good
• 20:29
  recruitment this year. So, we've had
• 20:31
  some
• 20:34
  >> cool
• 20:35
  >> and and it's it's been great. And I
• 20:37
  think, you know, it's it's really hard
• 20:39
  to tell from season to season how a team
• 20:42
  will have peaks and troughs.
• 20:45
  Um
• 20:46
  >> I tell you I tell you sorry I tell you
• 20:48
  what's also really hard is to see
• 20:51
  uh it is always impossible to see how a
• 20:54
  team operates unless you are in it.
• 20:56
  There's been so many times where I've
• 20:58
  seen like a team's social media for
• 21:00
  example be like spot on. You think
• 21:02
  that's the place to be. You go there
• 21:04
  it's like
• 21:05
  >> what different.
• 21:07
  >> I I agree with you. So first impressions
• 21:09
  do go quite a lot and social media is a
• 21:11
  big first impression. I didn't see any
• 21:13
  stuff from Alphas. So when Warrick's
• 21:15
  left, obviously people haven't been able
• 21:16
  to do the work he was doing. And I know
• 21:18
  he was doing a hell of a lot of work.
• 21:21
  It is mad because you know it's the
• 21:23
  people in charge. I think that's when
• 21:24
  clubs fold is maybe when not necessarily
• 21:27
  the right person is in charge. Someone
• 21:29
  who's going to motivate a team, motivate
• 21:31
  your staff, motivate the volunteers.
• 21:33
  Without the volunteers, there's no club.
• 21:34
  Without the staff, there's no club.
• 21:36
  Without the players, everyone needs to
• 21:37
  work in unison. I have a question for
• 21:39
  all three of you, okay? because it's
• 21:42
  been spoken about quite a lot. Should
• 21:44
  clubs have a player cap?
• 21:47
  So, I'm going to go to Lee first because
• 21:50
  there's clubs I'm aware of clubs that
• 21:52
  have got over 100 plus players
• 21:54
  registered,
• 21:55
  most of which will won't get um game
• 21:59
  time, but they'll be able to get
• 22:01
  trained. They'll be able to train with
• 22:02
  the first team squad. They'll be able to
• 22:04
  gain that experience.
• 22:07
  >> Do you think there should be a player
• 22:08
  cap? Yes, I think I think there should
• 22:10
  be, you know, there is one in the NFL.
• 22:13
  Um, and I think there there should be
• 22:15
  one in Brit, you know, whether it's, you
• 22:18
  know, 53 players like it is in the NFL,
• 22:21
  you know, I think there there definitely
• 22:22
  should be. Um, you know, everybody wants
• 22:25
  to be on that elite team. Everybody
• 22:27
  wants to be, you know, if if they're
• 22:30
  close enough to Manchester, they want to
• 22:32
  be on the Titans. If they're close
• 22:33
  enough to London, they want to be on the
• 22:35
  Warriors. They want they want that taste
• 22:37
  of success.
• 22:39
  Now me personally, I'm I'm an underdog.
• 22:42
  I'm always been an underdog. I'd rather
• 22:44
  be with a team and have that Cinderella
• 22:46
  story where you can be a part of a team
• 22:48
  that gets promoted, gets, you know,
• 22:51
  finishes third in the in the premiership
• 22:53
  like like we did a few years back. You
• 22:55
  know, that they're the success stories
• 22:57
  that make you, you know, a person, you
• 23:01
  know, and and to feel proud that you're
• 23:02
  a part of that club. Um, and you know,
• 23:06
  we we had a lot of transfers out that
• 23:08
  season uh the season prior to us almost
• 23:12
  bellying out last year.
• 23:15
  And some of them went to the big clubs.
• 23:17
  You know, we did have uh two players who
• 23:20
  transferred to the Warriors, you know,
• 23:22
  from Cambridge to London, you know, it's
• 23:25
  a 70 mile trip all the way down to all
• 23:28
  the way down to Greenwich. And these
• 23:30
  guys took that opportunity to go down
• 23:33
  and play. Um did they get game time? No.
• 23:37
  They, you know, one of them ended up um
• 23:39
  as a you know, third string running back
• 23:42
  and only really made an appearance when
• 23:44
  the Warriors were 50 points up on a
• 23:46
  team. Um
• 23:49
  you know, hence he's he's actually come
• 23:50
  back to the cats this year because he's
• 23:52
  realized that it's not all sunshine and
• 23:55
  rainbows when you know a team is is like
• 23:58
  that. So yes, I think there should be
• 24:00
  caps. I think there should be a minimum
• 24:03
  and a maximum. We we we seem to yap on
• 24:05
  about the minimum but never really talk
• 24:07
  about why you know if there should be a
• 24:09
  maximum. So yes, for me I think there
• 24:11
  is. James, what do you think?
• 24:14
  >> Yeah, I agree. I also I kind of from two
• 24:17
  perspectives because
• 24:19
  I do agree that like obviously if you
• 24:21
  have a cat players players are always
• 24:23
  who want to be in Prem or win a ring or
• 24:25
  anything like that they you know they
• 24:28
  want to go to that team for a reason. If
• 24:29
  there's a cat it will motivate them to
• 24:32
  go to a team you know slightly less
• 24:34
  strong but still try and win it. Like it
• 24:37
  creates demand and in any in any
• 24:39
  industry that's good. But I also for me
• 24:44
  like when I was at the Cats purely the
• 24:47
  only reason I left was to go and be a
• 24:49
  better quarterback and get coaching. Um
• 24:51
  and I was driving almost two hours to
• 24:53
  Knicks just to get coaching.
• 24:57
  >> Yeah, I I I I I agree on that one mate.
• 25:00
  Um my closest team is most probably
• 25:02
  Muryside Nighthawks and and Chester
• 25:04
  Romans. Uh I drive an hour to Lancaster
• 25:07
  Buccaneers because I'm sold on the
• 25:09
  project. I'm sold on the culture. I'm
• 25:11
  sold on on on on many things. Um, so I
• 25:15
  give it and look, that's not to slag
• 25:16
  them clubs off. It's just it's not for
• 25:19
  me. So,
• 25:20
  >> and that's and that was that was it for
• 25:22
  me. I like I I wanted to be better at my
• 25:26
  position and it was whoever whoever it
• 25:29
  may have been Nicks, it may have been
• 25:30
  another team, it may have been a div two
• 25:31
  team, whoever had the best quarterback
• 25:33
  coach I was going to is what I was
• 25:34
  convinced. But I do agree that there are
• 25:38
  too many ring chases just you know going
• 25:41
  to the core teams and hoping
• 25:44
  >> uh and you know for
• 25:47
  sometimes it doesn't even work out. They
• 25:49
  don't even get the rings but they've
• 25:50
  just sat on a team for a year for no
• 25:52
  reason. So you're not actually
• 25:53
  developing those players.
• 25:55
  >> Yeah.
• 25:55
  >> Either.
• 25:56
  >> Um so yeah I think um how they do it I
• 26:00
  don't know. Would would it be on you
• 26:02
  know kind of distance? would it be on?
• 26:04
  You know, you need to find parameters
• 26:06
  what what it would be first come, first
• 26:07
  serve. Obviously, teams are going to be
• 26:10
  up and down in terms of level, but it
• 26:12
  would be very interesting to see.
• 26:14
  >> When I used to play football um for
• 26:16
  junior age, you were allowed 16 players,
• 26:19
  and I'm talking a long time ago. I'm
• 26:21
  very old. And um they didn't just hand
• 26:24
  out, you know, sign that you you're
• 26:27
  joining us as soon as you turned up. You
• 26:28
  had to earn your spot. So it it is an
• 26:30
  interesting one because it would promote
• 26:32
  for me more players not turning up in
• 26:35
  March to start in April. It you know
• 26:38
  you're there from the getgo, you're
• 26:39
  there for the full project. Um you know
• 26:42
  charity fund fundraisers that you have
• 26:44
  for the club with your sponsors, you're
• 26:45
  there for that stuff like that.
• 26:46
  >> I think I think expectations of players
• 26:48
  needs to be higher. I think I think you
• 26:51
  need to I think you need to find out
• 26:53
  right from the get-go why they're
• 26:55
  playing because if you have a whole DI
• 26:57
  one team
• 26:59
  >> just wanted to get their last season in
• 27:01
  and then you end up wiping the league
• 27:02
  and going Prem you got no one coming
• 27:05
  back like that's a good reason to start
• 27:07
  finding out why and then you can start
• 27:10
  to select who you need for your roster.
• 27:12
  That's I think that's a good start. But
• 27:14
  >> okay, I've got I've got you cross mate.
• 27:17
  I do apologize. We haven't got much time
• 27:18
  left on the stream. Jack, I want to just
• 27:20
  get your thing. Should we have a player
• 27:21
  cap?
• 27:23
  >> Um, yeah. Um, I agree with the idea. I
• 27:26
  think you just got to be careful how you
• 27:27
  do it. My biggest concern would be
• 27:30
  >> you you you you get into the week before
• 27:33
  your first game of the season and you
• 27:35
  cut, let's say you got 70 players, you
• 27:37
  cut 20 of them. They're then going to
• 27:39
  find a new team but have missed the old
• 27:41
  off season with that team and then they
• 27:43
  don't get the chance to step in. or you
• 27:46
  push the players that have cuz it's
• 27:49
  like, oh, these boys have just joined
• 27:50
  from a Prem outfit. Now we're going to
• 27:52
  push out all the boys that put all the
• 27:53
  hard work in. So, I agree there should
• 27:56
  be a cap um for the reasons that's
• 27:59
  already been discussed. I just think if
• 28:00
  something like that was to be
• 28:01
  implemented, it'd have to be done very
• 28:03
  carefully and with certain cut off
• 28:05
  points.
• 28:06
  >> Hey, do you want to know the best wife
• 28:08
  award? It's my wife. She's just brought
• 28:09
  me a chippy. Winner winner, boys. Winner
• 28:12
  winner. What have we got? Chips and
• 28:15
  gravy. Chips and gravy. Winner winner.
• 28:17
  >> Such a such a northern thing that chips
• 28:19
  and gravy.
• 28:20
  >> Okay, so look, we'll come at the end of
• 28:22
  this. Um, J, I want to thank you for
• 28:24
  coming on. Would you be interested in
• 28:25
  coming on when we do our live streams of
• 28:26
  this?
• 28:27
  >> 100% 100%.
• 28:29
  >> Who's your first game against?
• 28:34
  >> Great question.
• 28:37
  >> Um, I will find out very very quickly.
• 28:40
  >> Talking preseason or regular? regular
• 28:44
  for do you know what it's my petite when
• 28:46
  people announce preseason results I
• 28:48
  think go
• 28:49
  >> gator are you gonna win
• 28:52
  >> yes
• 28:54
  >> yes awesome awesome awesome well folks
• 28:57
  um let thank you very much for Jack and
• 29:00
  for James coming on um it's really good
• 29:02
  to see um you guys as a team progressing
• 29:04
  and moving forward um you're not a team
• 29:08
  that I'm I'm worried about in terms of
• 29:09
  how you're going to perform I think
• 29:10
  you're going to be really good it's
• 29:11
  going to be really interesting to get on
• 29:12
  the field with you. Um, I do apologize
• 29:14
  for how aggressive I am in a game. I'm
• 29:16
  joking. I'm not I'm a softy. I'm a
• 29:18
  softy. I'm a softy. Um, we are going to
• 29:21
  be publishing this every Monday night.
• 29:23
  Um, this is Monday Night Huddle. It's
• 29:25
  going to be pre-recorded up until our
• 29:27
  first preseason week, which we can't
• 29:28
  wait for. And as we do every single
• 29:31
  week, I've been Matteo,
• 29:33
  >> I've been Lee,
• 29:35
  >> I've been James,
• 29:36
  >> and I've been Jack.
• 29:37
  >> We did it. Absolutely brilliant. Thank
• 29:40
  you very much folks for coming along and
• 29:41
  we will see you all soon. Bombers, good
• 29:44
  luck in all of your games this season
• 29:45
  apart from when you play the Lan
• 29:46
  Buccaneers where I hope you get folks.
• 29:48
  Have a good one. Thank you very much. We
• 29:50
  will see you next week.
• 29:53
  Thank