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Raising Banners, Breaking down Injuries, Brewers Announcer Jeff Levering · Not So Fast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,
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  Speaker 1: where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest
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  Speaker 1: sports stories.
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  Speaker 2: Of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.
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  Speaker 3: Not so fast, my friends.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's
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  Speaker 2: Paul Pabst. We're raising banners. We're breaking down injuries. We
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  Speaker 2: got it all going on, Paul.
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  Speaker 4: Guess who was not at Madison Square Garden last night?
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  Speaker 2: Me and you. Yeah, but I watched it on TV.
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  Speaker 4: It was good banner raising, good rings, good basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Full disclosure, I'm a Sixers fan, so it was kind
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  Speaker 2: of mixed emotions. I was so excited to see LeBron,
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  Speaker 2: but I have to admit, I did enjoy sort of
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  Speaker 2: the pomp and circumstance.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to get to it. Coming up in a
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  Speaker 4: little bit, broadcaster Jeff Levering of the Milwaukee Brewers joins
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  Speaker 4: us to talk about the World Series that's upcoming, his
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  Speaker 4: great call against the NLCS for the Dodgers. We've got
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  Speaker 4: to get to that, but furlough. Let's start with some drama,
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  Speaker 4: some quagmire in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so the Philadelphia Eagles ruled out Jalen Hurts on Monday,
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  Speaker 2: likely for the season, with blood clots that started in
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  Speaker 2: his leg and moved to his chest. If you're an
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  Speaker 2: NFL fan, you know the story by now. But the
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  Speaker 2: story keeps changing, Paul, because at first, you know, he
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  Speaker 2: got his calf hit against the Rams, and then he
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  Speaker 2: was hurt midweek. They put him on the injury report.
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  Speaker 2: Then he played in London, and there was a report,
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  Speaker 2: saying that he stayed up all night before the game,
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  Speaker 2: and then Tom Palacero, the ringer, walked that back. The
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  Speaker 2: problem with this story is that the reports keep changing.
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  Speaker 2: So when that happens, I think fans are immediately skeptical
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  Speaker 2: and think that something untoward is going on.
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  Speaker 4: And this Hertz NFL, NFLPA story is breaking out. I
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  Speaker 4: saw it on CNN. I saw it on the evening news.
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  Speaker 4: My wife is saying, what's going on? Why did the
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  Speaker 4: Eagles let Jalen Hertz play with blood clots? That's when
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  Speaker 4: you know a story is breaking loose. And it's gotten
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  Speaker 4: out of control. Like the 36 hours of no sleep thing,
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  Speaker 4: it's now becoming fact. And it seems like everyone wants
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  Speaker 4: to point a finger, and they're not pointing it at
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  Speaker 4: the player. They're going to point it at the medical
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  Speaker 4: staff and the Eagles. Nick Sirianni, as we said yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: did himself no favors. But I don't know if the
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  Speaker 4: Eagles did him any favors, leaving him out high and
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  Speaker 4: dry to explain medical situations.
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  Speaker 2: No, that was a mistake. Dan Patrick laid that out
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  Speaker 2: really well. Putting Nick out alone was not good. And
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  Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni is already embattled in Philadelphia because the team's
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  Speaker 2: not great.
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  Speaker 4: What do you want to know about this story next?
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  Speaker 4: Because it's not over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was a report that just came out
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  Speaker 2: that GM Howie Roseman was uber concerned about Jalen Hurts'
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  Speaker 2: health and did everything right from step one.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if that report was from Howie
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  Speaker 2: Roseman himself, but I kind of believe that maybe this
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  Speaker 2: is not the Pablo Torre-esque controversy that everyone is making
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  Speaker 2: it into.
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  Speaker 4: But a lot of the fans, as soon as the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: I think quickly the NFL said, the Eagles did everything right.
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  Speaker 4: We signed off on this.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL said that.
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  Speaker 4: I think that actually hurts the case because the NFL
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  Speaker 4: backed the Eagles so quickly. People who are skeptical of
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  Speaker 4: the NFL said, wow, what kind of investigation is this?
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  Speaker 4: How much did they look into it? So much so
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  Speaker 4: that the NFLPA said, is there an investigation? Was there one?
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  Speaker 4: Will there be one? Which means the story is ongoing.
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  Speaker 4: Booger McFarlane talked about this, and you're going to get
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  Speaker 4: to that. But it's like, I want to hear from
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts. Can he walk us through? And he's not
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  Speaker 4: a talker. He's not verbose. He's not known for giving information.
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  Speaker 4: So you have a team and a player who's not
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  Speaker 4: known for talking, not talking.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. And the funny thing is, you mentioned the
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  Speaker 2: NFL came out and backed the Eagles. Everyone's skeptical. Dr.
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  Speaker 2: David Sills for the NFL. The second you hear his name,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, uh-oh, what's gone wrong now?
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  Speaker 4: He works for the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was probably involved in concussions, and people
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  Speaker 2: do not trust the NFL when it comes to issues
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  Speaker 2: like that. Let's hear from Booger McFarland, because Booger is
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  Speaker 2: the voice of reason and sort of laid out his
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  Speaker 2: opinion on what the Eagles and Jalen Hurts are going through.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to see Harry Roseman, the... head team trainer
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  Speaker 1: and the team head doctor get up there, answer questions.
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  Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, put Jalen Hurts up
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  Speaker 1: there also and say, hey guys, this is very transparent.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing to hide here. Here's what happened. Here's when
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  Speaker 1: it happened. Unless they do that, there's always going to
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  Speaker 1: be a conspiracy theory of what did they know and
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  Speaker 1: when did they know it. And to me, there's really
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  Speaker 1: no need for that if you just get up there
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  Speaker 1: and be honest and tell the public what's happened.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a great measure take by Booker McFarlane.
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  Speaker 4: He's kind of a realist. He's like, just Bring everybody
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  Speaker 4: up there. It's Wednesday. You have time before the next game,
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  Speaker 4: before the Thursday night football game. Let's just put everybody
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  Speaker 4: up there. explain step by step, walk us through it
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  Speaker 4: like you're doing a murder mystery. The other thing, it
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  Speaker 4: happened in London. Even that throws this into like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: it happened over there. What kind of doctors were they using?
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  Speaker 4: Was it our doctors? Was it their doctors? It'll never
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  Speaker 4: stop until they put this to bed.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's the big issue of should he have
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  Speaker 2: been on an airplane with blood clots? That's one of
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  Speaker 2: the things the Eagles had. You asked me what I
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  Speaker 2: wanted answered. That's number one. And why did they stop?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I remember when Chris Bosh had this issue
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  Speaker 2: with blood clots. Yes. There was a lot of mystery
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  Speaker 2: around that, too. Maybe it's really hard to diagnose, in
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  Speaker 2: which case I want to hear that from a doctor.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear Nick Sirianni trying to battle
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  Speaker 2: back and forth with the media when he does not
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  Speaker 2: have the answer. Right.
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  Speaker 4: It's a good point by you. It's a nontraditional athlete injury.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a pulled muscle. It's not a hamstring. It's
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  Speaker 4: not a knee where the coach can kind of talk
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  Speaker 4: about that because they played football. All right, let's get
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  Speaker 4: to another topic that's coming up because this is going
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  Speaker 4: on with Ohio State football and their star quarterback, Julian Sane.
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  Speaker 4: He got roughed up towards the end of the Indiana game.
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  Speaker 4: and had an arm injury. Not a lot of specifics,
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  Speaker 4: but they said he's going to be out for the
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  Speaker 4: regular season and expect him to be out for the playoffs. Now,
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  Speaker 4: Sane was having a very good season, 19 touchdowns that
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  Speaker 4: led the Big Ten. His quarterback rating was number one
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  Speaker 4: in the Big Ten. And if you look at that,
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  Speaker 4: it's like he jammed up his arm-shoulder area.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like maybe Elbow. Julian Sane, of course,
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  Speaker 2: former prodigy, number one recruit kind of guy. He's been good,
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  Speaker 2: but let's face it, it's Ohio State. He's good, but
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  Speaker 2: I think I could throw about eight touchdowns there because
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  Speaker 2: you just throw to Jeremiah Smith, the best player in
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  Speaker 2: the country.
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  Speaker 4: That is a hard thing with Ohio State quarterbacks to
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  Speaker 4: know how good they are because there's so much talent
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  Speaker 4: on the roster. But Sane did have 21 career starts.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to have five more. You're going to go
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  Speaker 4: into the playoffs with a veteran quarterback and the best
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  Speaker 4: wide receiver possibly in history. Now they're going to go
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  Speaker 4: likely to a true freshman named Luke Fahey or a sophomore,
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  Speaker 4: Tavian St.
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  Speaker 5: Clair.
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  Speaker 4: Now, the bigger picture issue, and you know this, is
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  Speaker 4: the college football playoff committee now will get rid of
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  Speaker 4: the first half of the season and look at Ohio
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  Speaker 4: State football as if this is a new resume. What
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  Speaker 4: they do in the next five or six weeks against USC, Oregon, Northwestern, Nebraska,
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  Speaker 4: and Michigan, right? Now, that's not an easy schedule nor
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  Speaker 4: a brutal schedule. But it's somewhere in between. There's a
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  Speaker 4: losable game in there if you have a backup quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty hard schedule. With a backup.
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  Speaker 2: I think that'd be hard with Julian Saban because I
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  Speaker 2: don't think Ohio State is– I don't think anyone's dominant
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  Speaker 2: right now. I think Nebraska's been playing a lot tougher
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  Speaker 2: this year. So you mentioned that the committee's going to
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  Speaker 2: evaluate them. Can you evaluate them based on a wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver and not a quarterback? So when Florida State's quarterback
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  Speaker 2: got hurt, they immediately– Jordan Travis. Yeah, they took them
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  Speaker 2: out of the picture. Right. But that's because I think
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  Speaker 2: they had to put Alabama in. There's a couple things
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  Speaker 2: going on here. One, Ohio State has the best player
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  Speaker 2: in the country. That's eyeballs. They do very well in ratings.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Ohio State-Indiana game got over 10 million.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a big deal. And also, it's not like
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  Speaker 2: with 12 teams, they don't have to boot Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: to get somebody who has also high ratings in. And
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  Speaker 2: they're very shallow, this committee. So I think they're going
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  Speaker 2: to keep Ohio State in.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot going on here. My lord, think of
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State lost that game to Indiana, which they could
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  Speaker 4: have lost it by about six inches. But Ohio State
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  Speaker 4: has built a big resume. But they will get judged
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  Speaker 4: by the personnel on the field for the second half
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  Speaker 4: of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but, you know, again, how important is saying?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you're going to say, like, this backup quarterback. Now,
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't have one game to prove himself. Let's say
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  Speaker 4: Fahey or the other backup does really well the next
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  Speaker 4: five weeks. It's kind of a wash. Now they're back
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  Speaker 4: to grading them as they are.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is not going to be solely
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  Speaker 2: about the quarterback because of Jeremiah Smith. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to hear about quality of play or anything. They
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  Speaker 2: know Ohio State is one of the most popular teams
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  Speaker 2: in the country. They will get them in. But this,
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  Speaker 2: to me, this entire situation is such an NIL era thing.
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  Speaker 2: In the old days, Ohio State, 2014, had Braxton Miller,
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  Speaker 2: Cardale Jones. Actually, no, Braxton Miller might have been gone.
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  Speaker 2: They had, who was the other quarterback? JT Barrett. JT Barrett.
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  Speaker 2: They could go three deep with big-time quarterbacks. Now, their
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  Speaker 2: backup should be Lincoln Kienholz, but he's gone because in
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  Speaker 2: the NIL era, he gets paid to play somewhere else,
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  Speaker 2: so they have to go to nobody.
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  Speaker 4: To a true freshman. But, yeah, it's a good point
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  Speaker 4: by you. 2014, Ohio State has done this before. They
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  Speaker 4: lost their star quarterback, Cardale Jones was listed as third string.
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  Speaker 4: Big guy, played fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: He would have been gone in the NIL. He would
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  Speaker 2: have been starting somewhere else. There's no way he would
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  Speaker 2: still be at Ohio State.
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  Speaker 4: He would have been at Northwestern. He would have been
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  Speaker 4: on Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: Missouri.
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  Speaker 4: Or transferred to someone else. But Ohio State has done
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  Speaker 4: this before.
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  Speaker 2: But not in this era.
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  Speaker 4: They've never had to go this deep into the quarterback roster.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, listen. Luke Fahey, no offense. This should
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  Speaker 2: not be the back. You should have a super five-star
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  Speaker 2: behind him or an experienced guy behind him. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: make any sense.
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  Speaker 4: A star in waiting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're Ohio State. You have the best roster in
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  Speaker 2: the country. This is pure NIL. You cannot build depth.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I think we saw five out of
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  Speaker 2: top seven teams lose this weekend because nobody has depth.
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  Speaker 2: There are no more elite teams.
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  Speaker 4: Now, some teams, if this is an SEC team, they
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  Speaker 4: try to acquire someone off another roster, but I don't
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  Speaker 4: think you could do so in.
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  Speaker 2: October, November. You can't acquire somebody off a roster.
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  Speaker 4: Portal's not open, but I could see Lane Kiffin doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Paul, what about academics?
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  Speaker 4: What about academic? All right, last thing before we get done.
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  Speaker 4: NBA openers last night. We talked a little bit about it.
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  Speaker 4: The Knicks get their rings. They raise the banner. And
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  Speaker 4: just like we said here on the show. The 76ers
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  Speaker 4: will not get the ring or the banner, but they'll
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  Speaker 4: win the game because all the hoopla on the game,
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  Speaker 4: the game is an afterthought for the Knicks. Did you
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  Speaker 4: feel that way?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. The Knicks, they didn't look like they
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  Speaker 2: were in great shape. And two reasons. One, they played
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  Speaker 2: in deep June. Then they partied into August for the title.
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  Speaker 2: I got this vibe, Paul, and tell me if you
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  Speaker 2: agree with this, that the Knicks are totally satisfied with
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  Speaker 2: their 1-2. Their fans are totally happy. If they happen
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  Speaker 2: to compete this year, great. If not, no problem.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to talk about that, but it's hard not
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  Speaker 4: to be. If you're Jalen Brunson, you have a key
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  Speaker 4: to the city for the rest of your life. If
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  Speaker 4: you do anything this year, it's just gravy. But real
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  Speaker 4: quick on your 76ers. I love their starting lineup. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know how many games their starting lineup will play
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  Speaker 4: in total together because of Embiid and LeBron with a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of load management. But their starting lineup looks fantastic.
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  Speaker 4: I'm worried about the bench and the players they could
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  Speaker 4: rotate in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're not going to see that starting lineup for that.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Embiid's been hurt every single postseason of his entire career.
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  Speaker 2: He will get hurt. LeBron always gets hurt in February.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a vacation or getting hurt.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's skiing with the family. So
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  Speaker 2: they're kind of like the Rams are in football. They're
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  Speaker 2: just too old to stay healthy. So you might like
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  Speaker 2: that starting five, and I do too, but they are aging.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't always look like they knew what they were
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  Speaker 2: doing last night on the court. They are kind of
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  Speaker 2: new together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been playing together for about 45 minutes, so
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to let it breathe a little bit. But
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  Speaker 4: if you look at it, every guy on the court
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  Speaker 4: can play inside and play outside, and Maxie is the
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  Speaker 4: lead dog, which is perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody can shoot, though. They were 11 for 40 last night,
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  Speaker 2: but when you have LeBron, you might be fine.
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  Speaker 5: Also.
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  Speaker 2: Joel Embiid lost some weight, but he still looks like
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  Speaker 2: he is laboring. They are kind of the team to watch.
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  Speaker 2: I am excited about this.
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  Speaker 4: So Embiid, real quick, he's a very sweaty person. He
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  Speaker 4: perpetually looks tired, even when he's in good shape.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, or he is actually tired. All right, coming up,
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  Speaker 2: we have more on the Eagles and Jalen Hurts. Also,
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  Speaker 2: I have a dark horse NFL contender, a team with
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  Speaker 2: a losing record that you should not write off for
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. That's coming up next, Not So Fast.
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  Speaker 4: That's a tease. That's a hot take tease, not a
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  Speaker 4: warm take tease.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're 2-4, Paul, but do not count them out.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, LeBron's hair, or lack of, looks way better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he should have come home a while ago.
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  Speaker 4: Clean and mean. Back on Not So Fast, Paps and Perloff,
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  Speaker 4: a midday pick-me-up from the early session game.
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  Speaker 2: Pistons.
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  Speaker 4: I saw Thompson with a little sauce. A little woo-woo
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  Speaker 4: to the basket. I don't know who he was spinning on,
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  Speaker 4: but that was a nice lefty, right-handed play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, usually his brother is the big highlight guy. Amen.
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  Speaker 2: That was very nice.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was fantastic. Now, before we get to warm takes,
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  Speaker 4: we have to do one. We have breaking NFL news
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  Speaker 4: right here on Not So Fast. Perloff, I don't even
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  Speaker 4: know the news yet. You're dropping it on.
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  Speaker 2: Me as well. This is exciting. Per Jeremy Fowler of ESPN,
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  Speaker 2: the Giants will start J.J. McCarthy this weekend against the Texans.
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  Speaker 2: This was a no-brainer. You don't have to protect Jameis
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  Speaker 2: Winston's feelings, I don't think. First of all, he's been around.
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  Speaker 2: Second of all, he was a backup. If you watch
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  Speaker 2: that game Sunday, there's no way they were not going
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  Speaker 2: to go to McCarthy.
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  Speaker 4: But you've got to admit, this escalated quickly.
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  Speaker 2: J.J.
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  Speaker 4: McCarthy, when they acquired him, I don't think we thought
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  Speaker 4: he'd play much at all. Jameis would keep you afloat,
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  Speaker 4: and you don't have much invested, and you let J.J.
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  Speaker 4: McCarthy sit the bench for a while. But he came
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  Speaker 4: in the game, and in that kind of two-minute offense,
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  Speaker 4: run-and-gun situation, he looked pretty good. It's almost like the
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  Speaker 4: situation brought out the best of him, kind of running
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  Speaker 4: and gunning.
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  Speaker 2: Well, remember there was a moment in Minnesota where the
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  Speaker 2: number nine thing, where he looked good in the sense
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  Speaker 2: that he's very physical, he can run, and he's got
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  Speaker 2: a great arm. The issues have been putting together. What
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand, Paul, is how can you not play
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  Speaker 2: well for Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota, who's the ultimate quarterback whisperer,
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  Speaker 2: and then play well elsewhere?
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  Speaker 4: Well, but also management decided to go in another direction.
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  Speaker 4: And once they did, it was over for him there.
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: Once they went to McCarthy and Wentz, I'm sorry, to
• 13:18
  Speaker 4: Kyler Murray and Wentz, it was over for them there.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: So he wasn't going to get another chance to play.
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: So moving him was the only option. This is a
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: fantastic situation for him right now for a couple reasons.
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: If he plays well the rest of the season... He
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: could be re-signed there as a backup or a competitor
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: with Dart or go elsewhere as a high-end backup or
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: maybe a chance to start elsewhere.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still am very skeptical about J.J. McCarthy and
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: the Giants as well.
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: But you have to admit, his career is in way
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: better shape than it was six weeks ago.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Than it was six hours ago. Yeah, I'm still not
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: sold on the Giants. We'll see. I mean, the Texans
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: could be a tough assignment. The Texans, well, I'm going
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: to actually talk about it in a minute. The Texans'
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: defense has not been great, but they're going to look
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: at J.J. McCarthy and be very excited.
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, they will. That's a tease. All right, it's time
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: for warm takes here on Not So Fast, Pearl. Little
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: warm ones to get you ready in October. Maybe a
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: cup of cider with this warm take.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: New York Knicks fans, you've entered a new stage of fandom,
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: and anyone under 50 years old doesn't really understand this. Now,
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: you are in the stage of fandom of post-title fandom.
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: You won this unexpected title last year. You dined out.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: You celebrated in the streets. And it goes in stages,
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: like stages of grief, stages of winning. It happens there, too.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: So this summer, you've been living on Easy Street if
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: you're a Knicks fan. You've been watching Jalen Brunson. You've
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: been celebrating. You've been buying gear, climbing on rafters. That
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: was your summer. Now you're entering that thing where you
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: think to yourself, can we do it again? Can my
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: Knicks do it again? Can we repeat? It's understandable. You
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: don't think that you were a 53-win team last year.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: You think you were a team that won the NBA title.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: Why not do it again? you're kind of confused about
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: where you stand in the world. And you're thinking, you
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: love the feeling of winning so much. Like, let's run
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: it back. Let's do it again. The odds are very
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: much against you. I'm not anti-Knicks. I'm just realizing that
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: most teams in the NBA and all sports don't repeat.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: And it probably won't be a repeat for New York
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: Knicks fans. So you'll be at the end of this
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: year and you'll not make it, you know, you bow
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: out in the playoffs at some juncture and you're like, okay,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: it didn't work out, but we still have last year.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: And then the year after that, you won't make it
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: to the finals. And last year again, And then when
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: you get to this mode where you're a couple years
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: away from winning a title, I'm a Cubs fan, 2016,
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: the farther you get away from that winning season, the
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: more it becomes like this mythical time in your life where,
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: remember all Marcia Hargitay and all those things and all
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: those people there and celebrating with Tracy Morgan and Timothy Chalamet.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: It'll be like this warm blanket that you remember from
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: your past, this great time. And every year gets further
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: away and becomes not real, but something you would love
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: to get back someday. So, Enjoy this, Knicks fans. Enjoy
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: thinking about a repeat. It could happen. It probably won't,
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: but someday you'll be sitting there going, remember that 25-26 season?
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: And reminiscing with people, and it'll be this warm, cozy
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: feeling all over again.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're a Chicago fan. The Bears have
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: been living off 85 for 41 years.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Thanks for bringing that up.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's the exact same thing. And the
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Knicks fans have been living off Willis Reed for 45 years.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: And you always think your team can repeat. 85 Bears
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: and 2016 Cubs. Everyone's healthy.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Why not? But nobody thinks it. The 85 Bears were
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: the best team in football. They were 15-1.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: And they couldn't repeat.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: They couldn't repeat. The Knicks are nowhere close to that. So,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: you know, the Thunder are the team that should have repeated,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: not the Knicks.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: The Thunder.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: They're sitting at home going, I can't believe we're not
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: in this.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. I'm going to go back to Jalen Hurts
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: and the Eagles. Now, I want to separate two things.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: The medical controversy around Jalen Hurts is serious, and I
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: really hope that he's doing well. The future of the
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Eagles is a totally different story. Because coming into this season,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of reports that the Eagles were
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: evaluating whether they wanted to continue to build around Jalen Hurts.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Now that he's injured, I think it's time to rip
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: the Band-Aid and start over. And here's why. You have
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: a high first-round pick this year, and then next year
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: you have two number ones and two number twos. You
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: have arguably the best general manager in football in Howie Roseman.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people don't want to trade
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: with Howie Roseman because he's smarter than everyone else. So
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: let him cook. You want a quarterback on a rookie
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: deal so you can build talent all around him. Because
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: you lost Lane Johnson, your right tackle. You lost Cam Juergens.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: You traded him away. And then you have Jalen Hurts,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: who's getting a little bit older and doesn't want to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: run the ball. It is time to go back to
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: the formula, which is a rookie deal quarterback. and build
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: talent around him. You already have the best defensive player
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, and I said that, Jalen Carter, and
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: you have a good left tackle in Jordan Mailata. So
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: you have some pieces, but it's time to go all
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: in around the quarterback, draft one in the next two years,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: and you'll be fine.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, so Hurts is under contract for next season completely.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: He will be on your.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. Yeah, he is under contract, but
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: they could cut him.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: They could cut him. That's a big habit. Would you
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: go this upcoming draft, the 2027 draft, would you use
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: that first-round draft pick on the quarterback that falls to
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: you a la Ty Simpson with the Rams?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, the Eagles will probably be 6, 7,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: 8 in the draft. Really? That high? Yeah, I mean,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: they probably.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Which they usually aren't, so this is an opportunity.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: But next year, they might think, oh, well, we might
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: be getting the Kamario Taylor, Keelan Russell sweepstakes. So I
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: think you're evaluating the two drafts. We don't really know
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: which quarterbacks are going to be there. We know that
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Drew Messamaker is a top pick. We know Darion Ments
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: is a top pick. If they're sitting there and they think, C.J.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Carr will probably be gone. But, yeah, they're definitely a 6-7-8.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: They might take it this year because of the opportunity,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: but they might wait until next year when they have
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: all those picks.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Tons of draft capital. And either way, they've got a
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: draft capital to move up in the draft or to
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: surround that rookie quarterback.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, absolutely. And, you know, they're definitely going to
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: take a hit. But, look, the Broncos took a massive
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: hit with Russell Wilson, and we're back in the AFC
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: title game two years later. So it can be done.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dressing it beforehand is always good for the NFL teams.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Look at what the Rams are doing. You've got to
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: like what the Rams are doing. All right, let's get
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: to this topic. Wide receiver Tara McLaurin, a very good
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: wide receiver for a long time with the Washington Commanders,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: had a bad knee injury. Patella tendon out for the season.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: It's a tough one to see. And there are certain
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: players when you're watching them play, I don't especially like
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: the Commanders nor dislike the Commanders. I'm ambivalent. But whenever
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: I watch them play over the past decade, I'm like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: that McLaurin, man, what a good player he is. He's
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: always playing hard, playing tough, always keeps them in games
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: no matter who the quarterback is. And he reminds me
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: of one of those players like I'd love to have
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: that guy on my team type players. Those are the
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: players I call them. When I was growing up, I
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: was a Bears fan. And you'd think you'd hate the Packers,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: but you can hate the Packers and still say, man,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: that James Lofton, he was something. Or as a Cubs fan,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I would grow up and your guy, Mike Schmidt, Mike
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Schmidt would kill the Cubs. Like, oh my God, that
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: guy's so good. I have to respect his game and
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: wish he was on my team. And McLaurin fits in
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: that category where if you're just watching a Thursday night
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: game and the commanders are playing, you're like, man, that
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: guy's fun to watch. He's a good time. And it
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: bums you out when players like that are out for
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: the season. And there are certain guys, they're maybe not
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: the best player in the league, or maybe they are,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: especially like JSN out in Seattle, but you watch them
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: play and you're not a fan of their team, but
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: you say, God, I love his game and I wish
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: to God I could have that guy on my team.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Like Fred Warner of the San Francisco 49ers. The 49ers
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: come and go. Star players come and go. We're like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: that Fred Warner is a constant. I would give anything
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: to have him on my team. McLaurin fits in that category.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, God, I love Scary Terry. The second he went down,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I saw him reach for his knee, and I knew
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: this was it. I mean, to be honest, the Commanders
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: aren't doing anything this year anyway. So from an immediate standpoint,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it's no impact. But you're right, his career, he deserves
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: a good year or two. Maybe he would have gotten
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: traded out of there and had a chance to win
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: at a higher level.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: It's almost like as a fan, not of any certain team,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: certain players get hurt, and you're like, That guy, that
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: guy's the reason to watch that squad.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Terry McLaurin, everybody likes him. He's supposed to
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: be a great guy, too. Okay, I promised a dark
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: horse Super Bowl contender. I don't know if this dark horse,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: because a lot of people had them preseason. Let's talk
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: about the Houston Texans.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I knew it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: They started out 0-4, and you might write them off,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: although they did start off with a bad record last
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: year and made the playoffs. There's a lot of reasons
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to be excited. Now, their defense has not been good
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: so far, but I feel like now that D'Amico Ryans
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: has taken back the play calling, they can fix that. Now,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: here's why you should be excited. Tank Dell's coming back
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: this week, Paul, who's a very talented wide receiver. We
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: love Tank Dell. The other thing, Marvin Harrison looked great.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: He only played 12 snaps, got four targets and three catches,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: but he made a really tough catch over the middle
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: with defenders all around him. So Marvin Harrison, I think,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: had a reputation as being a little bit soft, looked
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: tough in his opening game. And C.J. Stroud is playing awesome.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I told a friend yesterday about what Louis Riddick, The
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: ESPN analyst said on the Dan Patrick show that he
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: would take C.J. Stroud over Caleb Williams. Wow. And my
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: friend's jaw dropped. They were thinking, what are you talking about?
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: It's Caleb Williams. But the more I looked at it, C.J.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Stroud is playing amazing football. And if you judge him
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: after his rookie season, we know he has all the
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: talent in the world. So you might have an elite quarterback.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Once that defense is fixed and they get after the
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: opposing quarterback, This is a very dangerous team, and they
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: have the fifth easiest schedule for all the NFL remaining.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: They have the Giants this week. They have a really
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: easy run. I think they're going to be back in
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: the mix before long.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Pearl, I think this is a great hill for you
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: to jump on early because everybody bailed on the Texans
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: in September. The defense is what really made people bail
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: because the offense didn't play that poorly. I will say
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: their running game concerns me, or their lack of running
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: game concerns me. I don't know if they have a
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: great back nor a great running game to put around him, C.J.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Stroud.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Do they make a trade at deadline for a running back?
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: David Montgomery is not working out anything special. That's the
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: thing I would like to see them to get over
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: that hump.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but, you know, if you can threaten the other
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: team enough with a pass game, if you have Marvin
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Harrison and Nico Collins and Tank Dell running out, I
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: think the teams are going to have to move back
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: and cover all those guys, and that will open it
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: up for Woody Martin.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: And it does feel like the defense is too talented
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: to struggle for 17 games.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Will Anderson.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: The month of September, yes, but not the rest of them.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: All right, before we go, this is a running thing
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: we do on this show. It's the college football play
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: of the season. King of the Hill. You have it
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: for one week. Can you keep it, or can someone
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: knock you off the hill?
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Harvard's Hail Mary. We saw this a few times. These
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: young fellas, future hedge fund managers. Beautiful Hail Mary here.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Little short, and the pitch, was that planned or not?
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: We still don't know. Great job by them. Now, that
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: was holding serve for a couple weeks here, Perloff.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: We have a new one.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: This is Auburn with their big upset at Georgia. Great win.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Watch this catch by wide receiver... Chaz Nimrod. That's a
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: real name, Chaz Nimrod.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we like that name a lot, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: that catch lives up to the name.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Chester A. Nimrod going over the back of the
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: defender and scooping that in. Also, he went from light
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: to shade there, almost like the old Dallas Stadium. Where
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: are you going on this one?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, if your last name is Nimrod and you're going
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to call your kid Chester, you know he better be
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: good at sports. Otherwise, he's going to be bullied. So
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I like his confidence. I'm going with Chaz Nimrod.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: You and I have both been called Nimrod lots of times,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: but it's not our first name nor our last name.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: So Chaz Nimrod, great catch. You're our College Football Player
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: of the Year holding serve right now.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Bye-bye, Harvard.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: All right, coming up next, we talk to, oh, Milwaukee
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Brewers broadcast Jeff Levering. He's calling the World Series for them.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: He's called all their games. Milwaukee, too much rest or
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: perfect rest? We'll find out next. Stick around. Not so fast.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Chaz Nimrod.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Chaz Nimrod IV.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: We've got to get him on the show because I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: love that name.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Chester Xavier Nimrod IV.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Is it really Xavier?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Just made that up.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Just made that up. Lined into the gap and left center.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Churrio back.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: He makes the catch.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: The Brewers win the pennant.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: The Brewers win the pennant.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: The World Series will go through Wisconsin.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Not So Fast. Perloff and Paps here.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Of course, that was Jeff Levering calling the dramatic final
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: out of the Brewers-Dodgers series. Apparently an homage to Bob Uecker,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: as we know now.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Great call.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: We're lucky enough to have Jeff on right now. All right, Jeff,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: we've got to know, just to start, was that pre-planned?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Did you know that you were going to have that
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: kind of call to honor the great Bob Uecker?
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: No, to be honest with you, I did not plan
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: any of that. The main point was that the World
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: Series is going to go through Wisconsin. That was the
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: main crux of what I wanted to say and how
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: important it is to the fan base to have a
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: World Series in Wisconsin for the first time in 44 years.
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: How I got there, I have no idea. Honestly, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: really didn't have that planned. I wanted to get the
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: play right first. As a play-by-play guy, you want to
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: make sure you get the play right first. And it
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: was a rocket to left center. I had to make
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: sure the Churrio caught it. I lost it in the
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: LED board, so I didn't know if it went into
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: his glove or over his head or anything.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: So I'm just reacting in that moment.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: And as soon as I saw out, it's a very,
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: very quick pregnant pause there. And then what went through
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: my mind was, I guess, Uke in major league. And
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: then also a combination of Russ Hodges with the Giants
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: win the pennant. The Giants win the pennant because the
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: Uke line in the movie is not The Indians win
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: the pennant. It's just the Indians win it. Oh, my God,
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: the Indians win it. So I kind of mixed the
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: two and made it my own in the moment. So
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: there was not any pre-plan except for, all right, the
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: World Series goes through Wisconsin.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Great job by you. Now, the Brewers have been getting
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: better every year. Every year they get more wins, a
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: little closer. But when you went into that and the
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: fans and the team went into that Dodgers series, it
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: was like you still got to get over the Dodgers.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: It's like this massive hump. Was it almost like trepidation
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: facing the Dodgers?
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: I think this team realized that they were ready for
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: the moment. And they didn't feel like, as opposed to 2025,
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: that they were happy to be there.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: They felt like they belonged there.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: And that's a big difference in mentality.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I think last year.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: In 2025, the Brewers expended so much energy in the
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: division series against the Cubs, and getting over the hump
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: of getting through a playoff series for the first time
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: since 2018 was on their minds last year. That once
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: they got into the dance, once they got themselves home
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: field advantage, the best record in Major League Baseball for
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: a second.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Straight year, it was just a matter of being themselves.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: And that's exactly what they proved on the biggest of stages.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: So Manager Pat Murphy was on the Dan Patrick Show today,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and Dan asked him an interesting question about the Miz.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: He asked, is Mizorowski the best pitcher in baseball? And
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Murphy said, not really. He mentioned some other pitchers. Is
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: he just sort of staying humble, downplaying his own guy,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: or does he really not believe that? And do you
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: think the Miz is the best pitcher right now in baseball?
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: I think he's got the best stuff of any anybody
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: in Major League Baseball, whether he's the best pitcher is
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: up for debate. And I think with what Murph is
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: saying is that there's still some growth in Jacob Mizorowski.
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, he hasn't this is his first full major
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: league season. So I think he still has a lot
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: of growth left in what he has and what his
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: abilities are. he has not pitched great in the postseason.
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: They need him to be great in the World Series
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: against this Tampa Bay roster and this Tampa Bay offense.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Is the stuff electric? Absolutely it is.
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: I mean, the guy throws 106 miles an hour without
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: even batting an eyelash. And plus the off-speed stuff is
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: still a work in progress. But I think what Murph
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: is trying to instill in him is that you still
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: have some growth and you can be whatever you want
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: to be.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Just as long as you keep working at it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Jeff, you know, when the Brewers won, we were sitting
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: here not so fast talking about a great story it is.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: And then I remember thinking to myself, I bet you
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: if I was the Brewers players and fans, I wish
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: the World Series started tomorrow or the next day. Nine
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: days off feels almost too long. I know you want rest,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: but it's like you've got to churn and grind as
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: a fan base. Do you think that the fans and
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the players wish this was a little bit less of
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: a layoff?
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: It feels like an NFL week where you play a
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: Thursday game and then not until the following Sunday or Monday.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: So you're just sitting there and you're grinding away on
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: that last game. And baseball is such an everyday sport,
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: as everyone knows. I think that they wish they would
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: have played maybe not the next day, but certainly the
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: day after because of the celebrations and whatnot. And what
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: a great night that was to get to the World
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: Series for the first time in 44 years. But baseball
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: is such a routine base. And once they got back,
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: home to Milwaukee. They went right back to work on Sunday,
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: had a light workout. They've been grinding away these last
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: couple of days. They have learned their lesson on what
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: to do during breaks over the last few seasons, getting
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: past the wildcard round and automatically into.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: The division series.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: So this is a team that does not take these
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: days off lightly, but they're still getting their work done.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Done jeff give us a vibe check in milwaukee uh
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: nervous excited in between both.
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: I would say that the city and the state the
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: the vibes are very high um you got people flying
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: flags and i've always said that When the colors start
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: to change, this state becomes a Packers state.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: It is definitely a Brewers state right now.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: And you could feel that at Lambeau with the Let's
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: Go Brewers chants over the weekend against the Cowboys.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Matt LaFleur is wearing a Brewers hat.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: Even the Bucs, who are starting their regular season, it's
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: all about the Brewers right now. And for good reason.
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: I'd say the vibes are very good. This is going
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: to be capacity crowd. at least five or six rows
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: of standing room only. Um, it's going to be a
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: madhouse at American family field come Friday.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: The last time the brewers were in, as you know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: everyone knows it was 82. Perloff and I were chopping
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: up that 82 roster. Like it was our family tree.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: We knew every single player. Now I don't know how
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: old you are, Jeff, but, but you know, with your hair,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: you look quite young. Uh, There's a lot of the
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: old folks here. I would say if you're over 50,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: you're like, this is it. We have to get this
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: World Series. We need one in my lifetime. But if
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: you're 30 or under, you're like, the Brewers are always
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: in the playoff. It's like a dichotomy of fans.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: It really is. And I was negative one in 1982.
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: So I was born in 83.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: But I know that.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: 82 team just like it's the back of my hand.
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: And I didn't even grow up a Brewers fan, right?
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: So I've been in the organization for 12 years. And
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: the fact that this fan base treats that 82 team
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: like they won the thing um it really is incredible
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: like they didn't win the world series but they treat
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: this this team like they did um even robin young
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: came out yesterday and he's he's as big a fan
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: as anybody on.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: This on this.
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: Brewers roster he wants them to go win it he
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: wants them to win it for for that 82 team
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: for the community for bud selig for the late bob
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: euchre they they want this team to get it done
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: and they're four wins away from it.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: Before we get you out of here, Jeff, we do
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: have a thing here called Such Thing is a Dumb Question.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: You're a broadcaster. You call games every single day. We
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: know broadcasters want to take care of their voice, and
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: there may be things like tea or you drink. Is
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: there a bad pregame meal or a good pregame meal
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: for a broadcaster, and you specifically?
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: A bad pregame meal is anything dairy or a lot
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: of popcorn. Stay away from the popcorn because that stuff
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: gets stuck in your teeth or gets stuck in your throat.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: You never need one of those things. Good call. I
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: try and stay away from the dairy and.
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: Cold foods, mostly warm foods. And I do my fair
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: share of tea as well.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Do you do a warm-up? We do a warm-up for
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Not So Fast that my daughter, who's in drama class,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: taught us.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you guys do? What's your warm-up?
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I blow a straw into a cup. Have you
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: ever used that?
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: For the first three weeks, I didn't know what he
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: was doing, Jeff.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Were you just blowing bubbles?
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: We were just blowing bubbles, guys.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: And trilling, which is when you go brrrr with your lips,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: then red leather, yellow leather. There's lots of tricks. I
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: could talk to you after the show.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Jeff, don't do any of this. You're on a roll.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: The brewers are rolling.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: You're rolling.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: You're great at what you do. Don't listen to us,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: for God's sakes.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I do the Anchorman ow-dow brown cow.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Jeff, well, good luck with
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the rest of the series. It looks like you're having
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: a great time, and the whole city is, and we're
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: behind you. We're Brewers fans, to be honest.
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: Appreciate you guys. It's a heck of a run, and
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: hopefully we can finish this thing off.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: All right, that's Jeff Levering. Of course, Milwaukee Brewers play-by-play.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: What a great call, and I think hopefully he has
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: another great call in him for a Brewers fan.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: I wonder if a guy like him tries not to
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: think about the closing game. In case the Brewers do
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: close this out, don't think of your last call, because
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: then it gets in your head, and you start like,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: rehearsing in your head, I would bet he goes freestyle.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he seems like a professional, so I think
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: he's going to be okay.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: And what a time in Wisconsin right now. The Wisconsin
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Badgers are a little up, a little surprising. The Green
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Bay Packers a little up after a tough September, and
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: the Brewers are right at the doorstep.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It's very exciting. Exciting for Rays fans
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: as well. All right, coming up next, we're going to
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: actually hear that quote from Pat Murphy, Brewers manager who
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: was on with Dan, and more from the DP Show
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: and Not So Fast. Coming up next.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: He had good broadcaster hair.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. What about his voice?
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like a sharp part.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Nice hair.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I want to start with Wemby. You've seen him in
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: person multiple times overseas, here. I haven't seen him play
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: in person. And I'm curious, the physicality of him, when
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: you're watching from your vantage point right next to the court,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: how can you describe it to the casual fan?
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: It's almost impossible to describe. I say that there are
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: only a couple guys who, no matter what the price
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: of admission is, they're worth paying. I've said that Steph Curry,
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: even just his warmups and everything that he does, that
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: has always been worth whatever the price of admission is.
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: LeBron James, certainly in his prime, that was special and
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: unique when he was early in his Cleveland days and
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: then Miami and back in his second stint in Cleveland.
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: I've said Nikola Jokic probably has to be on that list.
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: If you see him up close, it's so much different
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: than when you watch it on TV and it's special
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: on TV. But this guy's at the top of that list.
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: He probably trumps all those other ones because... when you
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: see it, especially when you're close to the court, it
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: doesn't look real. I'd say, let's start there. It looks
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: like it would be an AI type of thing that
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: you just find online. You're like, oh, well, I'll send
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: this to my buddies because it's funny.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: It's serious. And this guy is as serious as it gets.
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: He's as competitive as it gets. You feel that competition.
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: You feel that vigor towards his opponents emanating through him
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: when you're up close with him. And then the movements
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: and the athletic ability I've never seen anything like it.
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: The hope is that he can stay healthy for 15
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: years and do this at this high level for 15
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: years because NBA fans are treated on a nightly basis.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Noah, I don't really understand how the Spurs are built.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I know they experimented with a three-guard lineup this summer.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: You know, they seem very small and wimpy, kind of like, oh,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: he's 7'5. He's going to handle everything inside. I kind
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: of worry that he has to do too much because
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: he's surrounded by four guards.
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: Here's what I'll say if there's one guy who can
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: do it, though. It's this guy. Watch games that the
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: San Antonio Spurs played defensively, even last season when they
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: had more length out there. And really, the length that
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: they were putting out there wasn't anything crazy or different
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: than what they're going to. Dylan Harper, he's fairly long.
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: Stephon Castle is multiple defensively. De'Aaron Fox would be one
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: of the smaller aspects of that defense. And then Devin
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: Vassell is a physical presence himself. But they were putting
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: out Julian Champagny last year. Well, he might not be
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: a one or a two. He's probably a two or
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: a three. And so he's kind of in that same vein.
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: So I don't think they lost that much size realistically
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: going to the three-guard lineup. But Victor Wibonyama is such
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: a deterring force that when people drive, they see him
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: even out of the corner of their eye. They retreat.
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: They stop going towards the basket. So I think no
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: matter who you put out there, as long as he's
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: the base and the anchor of that defense, it's kind
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: of irrelevant.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: I want to get to the East a little bit.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Jalen Brown goes to the Sixers. LeBron goes to the Sixers.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: It feels like a rebirth of Northeast basketball. The Knicks
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: are more than relevant. They won the title. The Celtics
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: are always good. It's a great time to be a
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Northeast NBA fan.
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely. I think those three teams that you mentioned
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: all feel like that they're going to be in the
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: thick of things. Certainly the Knicks essentially running it back
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: with the roster that they had last year, adding Andre
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: Drummond to replace Mitchell Robinson, who goes to Boston and
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: feels like he's a great fit for Joe Missoula, just
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: from a personality standpoint. Maybe not necessarily in terms of
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: three-point shooting and what we've seen from Missoula teams and
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: the way they like to play offensively, but I think mentality-wise,
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: he and Missoula are going to click. I think that
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: team's going to be really good. It's a really good,
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: at minimum, regular season team. A team that easily could
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: end up the top team in the Eastern Conference, which
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: is a loaded Eastern Conference this year when it's all
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: said and done. And Philadelphia feels like the scariest playoff team.
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: I'm curious how it looks for the regular season, but
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: so long as they're on the dance floor and you've
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: got to play them seven games and they are fully healthy,
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: they are going to be a scary out for any
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: team in the Eastern Conference.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Back on Not So Fast, Paxton Perloff here on NBC
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Sports Now.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: That is Noah Eagle.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I have a little bit of an NBA policy. I
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: enjoy watching, but also ignore the results of the first
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: three weeks.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Of the season.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: I want to see 20 games before I make any
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: decisions on any team. That's fair, right?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Totally fair. And the Sixers, of course, look great now,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: but they're all healthy. But I'm curious, are they too old?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: And I really mean that. Watch Toronto. I know Kawhi's old.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Or watch some of these young teams who are going
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: to be able to run the floor all night long.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I think that eventually other teams are going to catch
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: up with the Seekers. I'm not quite as bullish on them,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: even though they are my own team. B.J.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Edgecombe's young. Maxie's young. The rest of the guys hurt
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: the curve, if you know what I mean.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, LeBron obviously has got to be
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the oldest player in the NBA.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: He turns 42 December 30th.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jalen Brown does not look like the young
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: spry Jalen Brown, and Joel Embiid has looked old since
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: he got into the league.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was born old.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that the, you said it yesterday, actually, that,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I can't remember if it was on air, that everyone's
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: going to get excited about the Sixers after one game.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: But do not overdo it, because it's a long season.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think if you can manage Embiid with
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: 55 games by choice, and somehow he walks into the
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: playoffs healthy, and LeBron is It's all health to me. Now,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I still think you've got to make a trade for
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: your bench. Before we go on to the next thing,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I'm curious how people look at the Pistons this year.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: It's like the Pistons had that great regular season, but
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: then they did nothing in the playoffs. And so all
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: those regular season wins just kind of got washed away,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: and they won't get a lot of run.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think the narrative around the Pistons
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: is you need two great players, more than just Kate Cunningham,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: because you need somebody who can hit a shot in
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. So they were not threatened.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: And Duren cooled off his second great player.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not a creator either. He's a very
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: good player, but they're not really built for the postseason
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: right now. By the way, I wish yesterday I'd gone
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: in a little stronger against the Spurs. because I think...
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: You wanted to. I kind of did. I think they
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: did not really belong in the finals last year. They
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: were a year ahead. And then, Wemby did not look
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: good yesterday. I do not know if this team is
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: built to win a title right now.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: So you think they may overachieve last year and come
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: back to earth this year?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Totally. And I don't... I'm not going to say Wemby
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: is overrated, but people think Wemby is part Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: in his prime, part Magic Johnson. The kid is still young.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, his game is still catching up to his
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: persona and his look.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: He can do everything, but yes, he's not 27 years old.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: He hasn't entered his peak yet.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then a lot of people point out they
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: have a lot of great guards, but none of them
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: are going to hit a three. That's kind of a
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: big deal in the NBA.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: You need Champagny to hit the threes.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Also today, Pat Murphy. The manager of the Milwaukee Brewers
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: was on the Dan Patrick Show. First time having him on,
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: what a character he was. And Dan asked him about
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: the pressure or opportunity to win one for the people
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: of Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 6: It meant so much to so many. If you see
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: the reactions and you see the people in town, you
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: see how proud they are of this team. Now, of course,
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: they want us to go finish it off, and that
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: won't be an easy task. We're not going to be
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: in that same kind of underdog role. It'd be damn
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: nice to see these people get a championship.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: This was a really fantastic interview. So when Dan just
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: got to know, we just got to know. They were
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: joking the whole time, especially at the back end.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Just got to know. I thought they were best friends.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: They felt like they were just riffing and talking like
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: they'd never done before. But he's one of those guys,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: you see why players love him. Because he seems like
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: a good time, not going to yell at everybody, chew
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: everybody out. Let's have some fun. Let's play some baseball.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: He's a baseball guy. He's a great manager, by the way. Okay,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: every week we do NFL Play of the Season, Paul.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: And Trey McBride of the Arizona Cardinals is the reigning
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: NFL Play of the Season, King of the Mountain style.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: So we're going to see if anyone can kick out
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: this play, this incredible catch by arguably the best tight
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: end in the NFL, Trey McBride.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: That is a tough one to beat, man.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: All right, well, let's see what we got this week.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I think this might do it. Josh Allen with his backhanded,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you call this, a shuttle? Incredible.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: It was like a 20-yard shovel pass. It looked like
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: something Manziel did back at A & M. And for
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen, because it's Josh Allen. it may not get
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: the credit it deserves.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I think it deserves all the credit because he's done
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff like this. The pure length of
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: it is unbelievable. And you know what? He had full confidence.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: He knew he could throw that pass.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked like a knuckleball, and he shovels it
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: as a knuckleball right to his guy. It didn't, like,
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: float up in the air. And then he quickly turns
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: to avoid the big hit that was coming. I'm going
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: to give it to Josh Allen. That was pretty freaky.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I'll even say this. I think that's the number one highlight.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: When Josh Allen retires, that's the play they show.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: Hopefully not. Hopefully it's not the play that they show.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Hopefully he's going to do a John Elway helicopter in
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: I hope that his is, I know what you're saying,
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: and you're right. That's one of those plays that's freaky
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: even for him. Mahomes has 20 of those. Josh Allen's
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: are more running than passing.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he has some big passes too, but
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: to me that's the play of the year, and I
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: think that's going to stay for a while.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: That's good. Good for Josh Allen. I'm sure he's going
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: to love hearing that he got on not so fast.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Good for you, Josh Allen. All right, coming up next,
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: constructor criticism and some sound of Arch Manning about his
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: status at Texas. Stick around. Not so fast. I'm sure
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Josh's agent will tell him, and he'll be very excited.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, Josh Allen? I mean, listen, or Hallie Steinfeld, we'll
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: tell them. She's a huge fan.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: Of course.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: She's been watching. Always has been. For years.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: I haven't put good film on tape the past five weeks,
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: and I'm going to be better. And I'm going to
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: be better for my teammates, I'm going to be better
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: for myself, and be better for the coaches. The losing
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: is never fun, and not playing well isn't fun. But
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I think this team is built for adversity, I'm built
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: for adversity, and we're going to respond. I know that.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: It's hard to not have a chip on my shoulder
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: That was Arch Manning, of course. Welcome back, not so fast.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Paps and Perloff. Now, I'll tell you one thing about Arch.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Last year, it looked really bad at this point.
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Remember, they lost to Florida, just like they did this year.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: And Will Leach, our buddy, wrote a column saying he's
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: college football's first big-time bust. And then they turned it around.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: They lost to Georgia, but they had a great end
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: of the season. So I wonder if people are sort
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: of overreacting to Arch's struggles.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: The default thing is to overreact either way for Arch Manning.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: If he had a big game against Ole Miss and
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: throws for four touchdowns, he is now the number one
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: pick of the draft and all is well. It's always
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: somewhere in between. He's a good college quarterback. who has
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: some hiccups in big situations. Very fair to say.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: It's a whole team. They can't run the ball. Colin
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Simmons might be out, their best player. Their receivers are
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: still somewhat inconsistent. They need to protect them a little bit.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's him not getting rid of the ball, but
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like he has more than a second
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: on any given pass.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: No, he has no blocking and no running game, but
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: nobody likes to talk about that. Perspective never works with Archibald.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: That being said, he has not played well. His decision-making
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: has been poor.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Especially in the fourth quarter, which is when you can
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: clean it all up in the fourth quarter. Let's take
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: a look at Texas schedule C because it's pretty brutal
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: coming up here. Texas has Ole Miss, which is Ole
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Miss is trying to get right back in the thing.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, Ole Miss got killed by Florida too, so
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: you never know.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: For Ole Miss and Texas, this is a playoff game.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Losers basically-ish going home. You have a lot of work
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: to do. But Texas has a lot of opportunity and
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: a lot of problems coming up.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they might not get Kamario Taylor in
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: that Mississippi State game. You know, who knows in the SEC?
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Missouri's week to week.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: All of these teams. It doesn't matter what that number
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: is in front of them. You have no idea. Like
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: at LSU, no idea what to expect.
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: All right, Perloff, let's play a little Remember When. It's
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: something that's like this day in sports history, but this
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: is not exactly sports history. It's a little bit of
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: TV history. One of my favorite shows, one of your
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: favorite shows of all time, Friday Night Lights, the TV show,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: debuted 20 years ago this week on NBC. You remember
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: that show?
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: It was very good.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Based off the book... then the movie, then the TV show.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: And people were like, a TV show off this? And
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: it hit right away. Kyle Chandler playing the coach of
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: the Dillon Panthers. It was fantastic. You loved that show, right?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, the best. It had that amazing soundtrack. I think
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: it was explosions in the sky. Jesse Plemons, who later
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: became a superstar.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: He was a role player on this show.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could tell he was special from his
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: first show.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Connie Britton.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I was all in on this show.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Great show. One of the all-times. A couple of questions
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: about Friday Night Lights. How many years was Tim Riggins
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: in high school? Because I did the math. He seemed
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: to play football for six years, and this was not
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: the COVID era. Whatever happened to J.D.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: McCoy?
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Remember the guy, the cocky kid? He was playing really
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: well at Dillon. And then Vince Howard, played by the
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: great actor Michael B.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: Jordan.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: He went from The Wire right to Friday Night Lights.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: We had him once on The Dan Patrick Show, Michael B. Jordan,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: the great actor. And we asked him to recreate his
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: role of Vince Howard and pick where he went to school.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Look on the screen. There he is, Michael B., in studio,
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: picking his school. Passes on Texas, passes on Michigan, and
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: he told us Michigan State was his school.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Why? I can't remember why he picked Michigan State. It
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: should have been Texas. I asked him.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: He said when he was a kid, he saw Michigan
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: State football on TV and fell in love with the
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: uniforms and the helmets and became a Michigan State fan forever.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: That's random.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Listen, can you name a great quarterback who ever went
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: to Michigan State? You got your Hoyer cousins. Yeah, I
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Jeff Smoker?
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: You were a big Jeff Smoker fan.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, that would have been controversial. If he
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: turned down A & M in Texas?
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: I wish Vince Howard would have gone to Michigan State.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: They wish he would have gone to Michigan State. All right, Pearl,
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: it's time for a little constructive criticism. Feedback on Twitter,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: social media, MySpace, whatever you got.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: We tweeted this. Sixers shot 11 for 40 from three
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: and still beat the Knicks. I think that's a good sign.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: It's also a bad sign from Johnny Diehard. Your thoughts, Pearl?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he's right. I was actually saying to nobody
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: during the game, man, they cannot hit the side of
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: the barn. I have a joke that I do at
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: the Dan Patrick Show Man Cave. Whenever someone misses a shot,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I ask politely, do you have a permit for all
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the bricks you're laying down on the studio?
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: How does that go over with people?
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: People don't like it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: They don't like it.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: But I was actually thinking about that to the Sixers
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: because they were just missing. Joel Embiid was hitting the
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: back of the rim and the rebound was coming out
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: 40 feet. And then Edgecombe can't shoot. And Maxie was
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: not shooting well. So I wonder about them as a
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: title team when they don't really shoot well.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Hitting three seems important in basketball. All right, next one.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: This is a running bit on the show. This young
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: man in Milwaukee. Here he is. He got the tickets
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: the other day. And then here's his parents showing him
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: the clip from yesterday on the show with us showing
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: him getting the tickets.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love it.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: So this young fella apparently doesn't have school and is
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: watching our show or is maybe watching the late session,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: the 5 p.m. showing on NBCSN.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, are we going to show it if
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: they're watching this now?
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to continue. I told him to eat
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: his vegetables. Mom seemed to like that.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: So it's from Dan Casper, I believe the name is.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan Casper, a media guy in Milwaukee.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. It makes me think of Dave Casper,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: one of my favorite old-time NFL players. He goes to
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: the post, former Raiders tight end. No relation.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: All right, it's time for the feel-good here on Not
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: So Fast before we get you up out of here.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Here we go, Pearl.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Banner raising. Those banners have a lot. Those rafters have
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: a lot of dust in them. They had to clean
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: them first. There it goes. And then a local bar,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: Mustang Harry's, just blocks away. I've been to this place
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: before from what I've heard. They raised a banner. This
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: could catch on at sports bars.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Wow, I love it. Like an official event to raise banners,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: to decorate the walls?
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you charge a cover and say you want to
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: be there for the banner raising, and people raise their glasses,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: raise the banners, raise their blood alcohol level.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's pretty good. I mean, the whole city
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: of New York has been a party for four months.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: How are you dealing with it?
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Not great. Not great. My wife's like, they're playing tonight.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you mean the Sixers? She's like, no, the Knicks.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: How did this happen?
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because if you would have said last
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: year the Knicks are winning the title, nobody had them.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: 53 wins in the regular season.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: The funny thing is, some of those people who got
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: rings last night, never heard of them. No.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: All right, no MAAC football tonight. You've got to watch
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: a lot of NBA tonight. And tune in to the
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Dan Pat Show tomorrow morning, 9 a.m. Eastern, right here
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: on NBC Sports Now on Peacock. Then hang with us.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Pass the pearl off. I'm not so fast.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: There it is.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: We need MAAC football, though. That'd be nice, but full
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: NBA slate.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: Full NBA slate.