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3 Guys Before The Game - Dusty Rutledge Visits (Episode 647) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Showtime. I think they used to call this touchdown City
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  Speaker 1: showtime and touchdown City welcome in. Forgot about remember that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Three guys before the game. Oh do we have one
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  Speaker 1: for you? I mean, do we have one for you?
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  Speaker 1: Rhetorical question answer I already knew answer. Yes, he's here,
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  Speaker 1: Dusty Rutledge. That's all that needs to be said. The
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  Speaker 1: duster is in the building. We're talking mountain near football
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  Speaker 1: and a whole lot more. Wonderful to have here, great
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  Speaker 1: to be here.
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  Speaker 2: I love.
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  Speaker 1: Where's my headset?
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  Speaker 1: but we are all back together. In addition to our guests,
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  Speaker 1: Dusty Hoppy is back and this is one of the
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  Speaker 1: all time great stories. He just completed last week a
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  Speaker 1: four hundred and seven mile bike ride throughout a majority
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  Speaker 1: of the state of Iowa and something that is called
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  Speaker 1: Ragbri which is an annual event. And Hoppy is back.
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  Speaker 1: He's tanned. I can't say that he's rested because it
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  Speaker 1: was an incredible challenge.
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  Speaker 3: Huh, it was. It was wonderful and it was terrible.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's all things that it was wonderful because,
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  Speaker 3: as Brad noses an Iowa native, Iowa and ice is
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  Speaker 3: a real thing. Wonderful people. You rode from town to
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  Speaker 3: town each day and just wonderful, warm, welcoming people. The
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  Speaker 3: vibe was outstanding. Uh, it's it's a beautiful place, frankly,
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  Speaker 3: with the with the spreading fields of soybeans and corn.
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  Speaker 3: The terrible part is you had to ride across. I
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  Speaker 3: mean it was hard and heat and humidity, heat and humidity,
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  Speaker 3: so it was hard. Now it was some Iowa storms, okay, windstorms,
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  Speaker 3: and it was like one day we made it, but
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  Speaker 3: one day, dusty, the ride was seventy miles. Somehow, Brad,
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  Speaker 3: you can explain this that in western and central Iowa,
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  Speaker 3: all the hill it's all uphill. There's no downhill like
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia go uphill and downhill. Sure, it was just
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  Speaker 3: all uphill, uphill, ninety five degrees, ninety five percent of
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  Speaker 3: humidity and a twenty mile an hour headwind. It's just brutal,
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  Speaker 3: just brutal.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I owe you an apology. I said you wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: make it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think you'd go. I thought you were break
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  Speaker 1: injuries going in, you were taking shots going in.
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  Speaker 4: Literally was didn't. I just didn't think you'd make it.
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  Speaker 1: The foot, how'd the foot do that? They put that
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  Speaker 1: needle in before you left, about that big good needle.
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  Speaker 3: Helps, But it was you know again, it was all,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a neat thing. I was thinking about this,
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  Speaker 3: and I won't believe it the point because we got
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  Speaker 3: to get to the duster. But that when you do something,
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  Speaker 3: when you have what I classify as an adventure, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're so consumed by that that nothing on the outside matter. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So I didn't read the.
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  Speaker 2: News for a week.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't worry about stuff outside. It was all about
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  Speaker 3: how long is the line at the porta John?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: How long is the beer line? What's this rod going
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  Speaker 3: to be? Can I get to the next town. So
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  Speaker 3: you're solely focused on what is happening, and there is
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  Speaker 3: a clarity that comes with that, and that part I
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  Speaker 3: really really valued and enjoyed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there could be a whole show on this thing.
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  Speaker 1: One last question about it. David Robinson, the NBA great,
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  Speaker 1: participated in it. You think he slept in the.
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  Speaker 3: Tent if he did have to have two tents put together.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, my man's got like one of those sprinter Mercedes,
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  Speaker 1: nice sprinter campers. He just kind of pulls up on
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  Speaker 1: the side, sleeps in there.
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  Speaker 4: And then he almost had to have the bike the
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  Speaker 4: size of Red Panda's unicycles, right.
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  Speaker 1: Red Panda, by the way, coming back from.
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  Speaker 4: That before.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, there was a unicycle rider, a
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  Speaker 3: guy who rode a unicycle.
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  Speaker 1: All the way four and seven.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's what I understand. Okay, So as a society
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  Speaker 2: we rest Yeah. So we started off with the unicycles,
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  Speaker 2: and then we got hey, let's make it easier. Let's
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  Speaker 2: get two wheels. And then we decided let's put an
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  Speaker 2: engine on it. All right, so if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: go to Iowa, drive across the.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like a form of transportation that was miserable.
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  Speaker 3: Well it was, but you know what it does.
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  Speaker 4: Were there any electric bikes an.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't count, would they look down upon No, they had
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  Speaker 1: to be, they should be.
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  Speaker 4: It makes so nice. I realized a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: One is that they're so common now number one, and
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  Speaker 3: number two is what the electric bike does. It enables
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  Speaker 3: people who maybe physically feel like they can't do it
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  Speaker 3: or older to do the event and still instill that
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  Speaker 3: that's fair for that. But you know, guys, I'd look
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  Speaker 3: if I'm out riding. My wife and I were doing
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  Speaker 3: ten to twelve miles an hour, but there would be
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  Speaker 3: This attracts bikers from not only across the country, but
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  Speaker 3: around the world. Because it's one of the premier biking
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  Speaker 3: events that exists. And so you'd be riding on, chuggling along,
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  Speaker 3: and I mean a peloton.
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  Speaker 1: Would come buzzby to Iowa. It's word to Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: That's like twenty NBC orda Iowa.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, Brad, it's your home state. And I
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  Speaker 3: really have I really thought the folks of Iowa were outstanding.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the thing I like is you've embraced the state.
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  Speaker 1: He turned his back on the state, left, never went back.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's like warrants there or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, Dusty, Hey almost heaven. Yeah, I'm here. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: last thing on the bike, Jake, if you would happy?
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  Speaker 1: This did wear your backside out? You look tired. This
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  Speaker 1: was when you just finished.
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  Speaker 4: That's when you just how do you do that to
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  Speaker 4: the guy?
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  Speaker 1: Well, he sent the picture the pictures for you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that that was for public consumption. I
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  Speaker 4: think that was a private.
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  Speaker 1: Special seek and a lot of right, and that is
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  Speaker 1: a lot right. Here's your backside.
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  Speaker 4: Us you want to know about the backside?
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  Speaker 3: Backside actually held up reasonably.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So and here's another picture when it was all over
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  Speaker 1: with and hop rant or road. Obviously with wife Karen.
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  Speaker 1: You touched the you touched the wheel of the bike,
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  Speaker 1: the tire into the Mississippi River.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: What you do is it was Gottenburg, Iowa.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, we were got what you're supposed to do is
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  Speaker 3: you put your back when you start, you put your
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  Speaker 3: back wheel in the Missouri River, right, okay, And which
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  Speaker 3: we did not. Orange City is not on the Missouri,
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  Speaker 3: so we actually they had a canal come through and
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  Speaker 3: you could kind of pretend you did it, and then
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  Speaker 3: you're right across and get to the end. You put
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  Speaker 3: your front tire in the Mississippi.
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  Speaker 4: Is so neat as you did that, and you didn't
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  Speaker 4: do the Missouri as some say.
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  Speaker 3: Not not technically the Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: So it was the single greatest athletic accomplishment in your life.
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  Speaker 1: For four hundred and seven miles in the span of
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  Speaker 1: six days and you're seventy years old.
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  Speaker 3: Seven days out. Yeah, it was the most difficult, and you.
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  Speaker 4: Know off with snagging injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Sure went in hurt, Dusty. What's the difference between injury
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  Speaker 1: and hurt?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you're injured.
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  Speaker 1: You can't Yeah, it's a hurt.
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  Speaker 2: It's a boom boot it's an auchie, so maybe he
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  Speaker 2: had a couple of auchi's, but yeah, I'm giving a
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  Speaker 2: guy serious props. It's I make funny and a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a hobby of that's okay, seriously, that's that's impressive.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. It was uh, you know, thanks to Vitamin I,
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  Speaker 3: I have a profen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hit that hard. Taking eight hundreds is a shot.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't take a hut. Well, I took the equivalent
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  Speaker 3: of but took a lot of that.
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  Speaker 1: But that's great.
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  Speaker 3: It was Uh, it was a once in a lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and by one.
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  Speaker 4: Let me give you a medicine folks helps you in
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  Speaker 4: on the front end to get you ready.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely help with the folks. That's a peak health physical therapy.
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  Speaker 4: Way laid our one podcast because you had to get
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  Speaker 4: help from Randy Metter personal from Randy before we could
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  Speaker 4: get started.
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  Speaker 2: So he got meta on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Randy should do that event, Brandy could do that. He
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  Speaker 1: would love that.
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  Speaker 3: But it's but it's a congratulations, that's impressed. I think
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's a one and done.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, check I did.
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  Speaker 3: I'd run into one or two three guys listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Why are we not surprised? Of course, three guys before
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  Speaker 1: the game, our special guest. This is awesome. He's back,
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  Speaker 1: Dusty Rutledge his second tour of duty. He is the
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  Speaker 1: senior Associate athletic director and the chief of staff overseeing
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  Speaker 1: Mountaineer football. This young man here has more stories than
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  Speaker 1: doctor Seuss. He has been centrally involved in football here
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  Speaker 1: in the state of West Virginia. Now we're working on
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  Speaker 1: forty plus years since this young man came from his
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  Speaker 1: home state of Ohio to play at Fairmont State University
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  Speaker 1: under a Wallace hood had football coach. There are the
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  Speaker 1: Falcons and to this moment, to the best of anyone's confirmation,
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  Speaker 1: Dusty is the and this is I'm not being funny here.
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  Speaker 1: Dusty is the last collegiate football player to serve as
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  Speaker 1: a player coach coach. He was an offensive lineman and
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line coach at Fairmont State University, and it
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  Speaker 1: is believed to be the last player coach in college
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  Speaker 1: football history. It was more coach player, Yeah, snapper, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean that he played, I played, he coached.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly how old were you when you were coaching these
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  Speaker 1: young lads? So you were what twenty twenty one? How
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  Speaker 1: did that happen? How did how did Wally Hood, who
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  Speaker 1: was a legendary successful coach, how did it come to?
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  Speaker 1: I think he deputized you as the line coach while
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  Speaker 1: you were still playing.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to go coach. I was just an
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  Speaker 2: average player, nah best average? Oh yeah, really good long
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  Speaker 2: snapper though, really good. All the people out there, really good.
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  Speaker 2: So we went got done with my a couple of
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  Speaker 2: shoulder injuries. And I'm not one of those guys that
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  Speaker 2: I give it up because I gave it up because
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't very good.
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  Speaker 1: And I love the game.
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  Speaker 2: And I have an opinion about everything. Okay, so hey,
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  Speaker 2: you want to you want to be a coach? I
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  Speaker 2: love to do that. And I was going to be
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  Speaker 2: a coach to the defensive line. So we went through
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  Speaker 2: all the summer meetings with a guy named Rich Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 2: He's a fair Salem and just dropped football. Okay, So
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  Speaker 2: Rich was going to be the d line coach and
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  Speaker 2: I was going to be as assistant. And then a
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  Speaker 2: week before camp started, he gets the restricted, earning his
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  Speaker 2: job the part time job here at West Virginia and
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  Speaker 2: goes and teach drivers at drivers at over North Marion
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  Speaker 2: and I'm at Fairmount State still, so Wally we hired
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  Speaker 2: a defensive line coach. It was a younger guy, and
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  Speaker 2: he didn't want to put two young guys, so Wally
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  Speaker 2: was going to coach Walley coach did offensive line as
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  Speaker 2: the head coach, and he said, well, you're gonna come
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  Speaker 2: over to the be my assistant. About three days into practice,
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  Speaker 2: he goes, I'm going to watch Skelley.
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  Speaker 4: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, just just do the drills. Cripes, you say, cripes,
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  Speaker 2: he did, cusspes, cripes, guys, just do the drills.
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  Speaker 1: So there you are a player coach.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I would I would well, I was
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  Speaker 2: going to coach that year. And then we went to
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  Speaker 2: get ready to play Shepherd for the conference championship in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight, and our long snapper got hurt and
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  Speaker 2: we would always play basketball as the staff after practice,
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  Speaker 2: and we're in there and goofing around. I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: snapping the balls like riding a bike. Well, cripes, let
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  Speaker 2: me see I snap a couple. He goes, Okay, we'll
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: go up to the athletic director tell him coldon Cameron time,
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  Speaker 2: and then let's make sure he's eligible. I wasn't because
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't the best of students, and I majored in registration,
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  Speaker 2: kept registering for classes, and at that five years said
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  Speaker 2: you can go now, so we go. So I long
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  Speaker 2: snapped that a Shepherd game Shepherd for the conference championship,
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  Speaker 2: and I would be out there coaching and here comes
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  Speaker 2: time for special teams and put the shoulder.
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  Speaker 1: Snap and then go back to run the scout team.
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  Speaker 1: So that was Monny Cater and Wally Hood back in
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  Speaker 1: those days, matching wits. Right, Monni was at Monny.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that was Monny's No, I think
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  Speaker 2: it was water Bar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, portaled out of Shepherd.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Walter Barr yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So this Richard Rodriguez that so he departs, he goes
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  Speaker 1: becomes restricted earnings at West Virginia. At West Virginia, how
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  Speaker 1: do you guys hook back up Glenville.
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  Speaker 2: He gets the job at Glenville head coach, head coach.
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  Speaker 1: High story that when he went in there the program
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  Speaker 1: to say it was down would be an understatement. And
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  Speaker 1: the previous coach had a dog that he would bring
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  Speaker 1: into the coach's office. Maybe his coach had a dog
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  Speaker 1: who lived in the office and there was remains of dogs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just everywhere, I guess. And I wasn't there to
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  Speaker 2: see this. So it was a crappy job. Yeah, literally literally, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's proud of himself on that one. Yes. He After
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  Speaker 2: year one, he hires a friend of mine, Dean Hood.
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  Speaker 2: Dean was head coach Eastern Kentucky and Maurice State, now
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  Speaker 2: he's back at the University of Kentucky. Was a defensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinator a bunch of different places. Good football, great football coach.
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  Speaker 2: So they get to you get the call down, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Come on in Glenville.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm not going to Glenville.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not living in Glenville.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll well, it wasn't even I didn't know there
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  Speaker 2: was no respect to you until I got there. We
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: had more fun.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, So I get to finally it can't beat him.
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  Speaker 1: You could see what he was doing.
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  Speaker 2: He was turning the program around and it was completely
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  Speaker 2: different than everybody else in the league. How they recruited,
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  Speaker 2: how they played. So I went down there, and then
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  Speaker 2: when I got there, it was the greatest. It was
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  Speaker 2: as fun of three years as you can ever possibly have. Yeah, Glennville,
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  Speaker 2: West Virginia. So I was a full I was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: So this is right. You got there right after he
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: played for the Natty and ninety three. Yep, And so
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  Speaker 1: Jed Drenning is there.
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  Speaker 2: Jed was just getting done as a player, Okay, Jed.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, you guys all know Jed. Jed. Jack can
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  Speaker 2: tell you every interception he threw in college, what the
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: play call was, why he threw it, who he's seen
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  Speaker 2: you know, we were running sixty four smash and.
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  Speaker 1: Savant, Yeah, idiot savant.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well I don't know if you needed to put
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  Speaker 2: the idiot in front of it. But now Jed and
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  Speaker 2: our friends we talked to this morning, so he understands. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and we had we just a great group of group
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  Speaker 2: of guys and characters.
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  Speaker 1: It was wild, but it was wild, yeah, in a
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  Speaker 1: good wild.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was great wild. One of the neatest
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  Speaker 2: things I ever seen. It was Halloween and I think
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  Speaker 2: it was year two and we're like eight and one
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  Speaker 2: or some at the time, and we hear the guys
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  Speaker 2: in the locker room. You're yelling back and forth. Riches like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: go out there and see what they're doing. Okay, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 2: what are you doing. I'm like that guy Bull Durham
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  Speaker 2: on the mountain. What's going on here?
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  Speaker 4: You can have six make a nice gift.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, always live, I think the live rooster and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But anyways, so the players, they they settled down and lead.
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  Speaker 2: Well what they did is they divided the team up
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  Speaker 2: into offense versus defense. They went and bought every egg
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  Speaker 2: in town.
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  Speaker 1: Uh not going well? Yeah, so Glenville Kroger probably kicked
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  Speaker 1: it up a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it was food Land, the food Land deli by
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  Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, we'll just leave that there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just live that there. So you guys win,
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  Speaker 1: and then you and Rodriguez depart again. He goes to Tulane.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: He goes to Tulane. I was going to go as
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: a graduate assistant at least one or two, and you couldn't.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: They couldn't get me in school. What do you mean
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: by that that you couldn't major in registration to two?
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: They didn't have that major. And I'm like, well, real school.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: You know. So I go to Indiana and spent four
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: years in boy Indiana was a great place to live.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I tell people those for three hundred and fifty five
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: days of the year. That eleven football Saturdays were rough,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: but the rest of the year was it.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Was good town and you had Antoine randall L back then,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: that's right, Cam Cameron was the coach, right, and so
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Antoine Randallill was Yeah, he was special, really special.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was specially Antoine Randall L and Rich
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Rodriguez system would have been yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I remember we had an option clinic in Nebraska, came
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: in to watch. We had a an option team from
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: every conference in the country. So Nebraska was there, Army
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: was there. Cal Poly are one of them schools. Never
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: forget Army. Coach said, if we had that kid at quarterback,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: we would never lose m hm, and Frank sold it
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Ship Nebraska said, if we had that kid at quarterback,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: we'd never punt.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, players make it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Players make a difference.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: It's it's not your ex'es and o's, that's your Jimmy's
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and your Joe's.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you go you're there for then Rich gets
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the job here, You're you're just like so, you're just
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: on a first card. Roll that Rollo dex. Back then
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you had ROLLERDX. You didn't take it off your phone.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: He was just like whenever he goes somewhere, he at
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: least tries to bring you along. Why do you think
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: he likes you?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I try to figure it out out all the time,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and then but I don't want him to figure it
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: out because sometimes you gotta be careful. You keep in life,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: you keep searching for the answer, searching for the answer,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: but all of a sudden you give someone else the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: answer and it's not the one you want, right right,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So I think loyalty, And it's not just I'm loyal
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: to him. He's loyal to me too now and he's
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: been and he saved my life.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: when you guys first got here. So it's Rich's first
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: power for job. We wouldn't even have power for back
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: then before we had there was being more than power
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: for back then. What are your first record? So you're
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: doing it again?
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I mean this is year one again, year one again,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: like recollections back then, similarities comparisons to what you guys
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: are doing now, very similar.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And this the culture you set a standard and how
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: you practice and all those things and how we work
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: out and are you sit in a meeting room and
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: all those So the culture part is never ending.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: So that part is.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: We had a bunch of kids leave the first year
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: and had a bunch of kids leave this time their
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: first year. But I think the bit, one of the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: biggest thing is you get to replace them now, and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: you could replace them then. That's a huge part of it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Huge gives you much better opportunity.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Time is funny. Sometimes things that happened a long time
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: ago don't feel like that long ago. Sometimes they feel
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: even longer than what they were. The time gap between
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: when you were last year and returning, does it feel
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: like it was nearly two decades ago? Does it feel
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: less than that?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: It's that's a great question because before we got here,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: I felt as though it was.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: A lifetime ago. And as soon as you get.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Back and you land at the airport and you dry
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: then and you're like, oh, the mall ground hasn't changed.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, Jersey Mike is still always on the ground, good
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: round the roundabout.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Wow, we've right on. It was at seven fires over
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the hill and you're like, I remember that that farm
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and has that little yeah, little yeah, the gates still there,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: still rusty, yeah. And then you turn the corner. And
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: that's that's oh boy, because when we first left, the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Suncrest Center had I think a Damon's which is now
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the Mexican Place was just being built.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: We had? There was nothing else.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, the town's really changed.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: So it came back to you quickly. The familiarity and
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: where home came back quickly. Yeah, and it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Was it was a special place. I mean, so you
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sure if I went back to some other places
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that yeah, okay, but this was this was really neat place, Dusty.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: It's really still a neat place you.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's in I don't think it's an
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: embellishment to say you would be closer to Rich than
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: any other current or former coach or staff member. You've
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: been with him for almost into the fourth decade, correct, correct,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: so you've had time to reflect. Was it a mistake
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: for Rich to leave from Michigan.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: That's that's a question for him to answer. What do
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you think it was.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: A mistake for me to to before? I mean not
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I the year before when he went to go to Alabama,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I walked in and I told him that before the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: day made the decision, I walked in and said, coach,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I don't care what you do. You know what I mean.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: We stay here and we're gonna win. We go to Alabama,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: we're gonna win. Don't care. I knew, I do know
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: it is out Alabama and he stayed the following year.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I grew up in Michigan, even though you're from Ohio.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've always been that guy. I've always been
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that guy on the other side for somebody else. I'm there,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. My favorite baseball player of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: all times, Pete Rose. I hate the Reds.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: So you went into Michigan. You said this is a
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: good move.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was wrong. I've apologized to him and
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: his you know, I mean, in his office several times.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Why was it wrong?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I think as you as you get older, you realize
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that grass is not always greener somewhere else. Okay, And
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: culture is really important. Culture is where do you fit? Okay?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Where do you fit?
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: So you believe fit? Like we talk about fit all time,
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: wise fits fits way up the list of importance.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Take who's the greatest college football coach of all time? Nick?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Ask them people Michigan State, do the greatest college foll
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: coaches all time at Michigan State and ain't Nick Saban
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: what was he fifth on their list? George Perlis, Biggie
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: bun Mark D'Antonio, Duffy Doherty.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Duffy Doherty, nice, Duffie Doerty reference.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: There's four Adams, those four second So.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: When you got to Michigan, how long was it before.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: You realized that it didn't fit? Yes, we had a
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say we, They had a like alumni five
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: hundred next players came back. It was really it was
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: meant to be a good thing. And there were some
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: guys in there who like, talk to us like we're
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: sixth grade and I don't want this. I don't want
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: to see this and this, And now I will say
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: that there are some of the the gut some of
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the best human beings I ever met were up there,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: the guys, some of the guys that played for bow
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: because they went to the first practice and like, oh
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: my god, this is the same as what it was
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: when I played, you know what I mean? People were
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: coaching people hard and they liked it. But there were
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: some other people that and it wasn't so much the players,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: it was the people outside that everybody thought they knew
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: what Michigan football was. Now the people in the will
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: fight critic row on row filled the plaza full.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: But the only guy.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Really knows the man who fights the bull. So a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: lot of people have opinions on them right right, that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Just didn't fit.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: So it was not a pleasurable experience.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: It was miserable for me. I was miserable because you
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and you took it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: It was miserable because I took a personal exactly Rodriguez said,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: because whenever if he asked me an opinion on something,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I tried to getting the honest answers, you know, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: they doesn't always like my answers, and doesn't always they
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: always listens to me, you know what I mean.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: And that had to be hard because I think the
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: folks who are in coaching, you're doing it because you
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: have a like anybody in a professor, you have a
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: passion for it, and then you're someplace and you still
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: have a passion for it. ME think this is not
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: just I don't feel like it doesn't feel right.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I think it was rich. Rodriguez does things at places
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: that have never been done before Glenville State. He won
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the last four conference championships they won price six in
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: the history of the school. He's got four zero. When
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: the first time here, I don't remember ever going to
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: four straight bowl games. We went to six. Go to Arizona.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Never went the four straight bowl games he did the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: first four years he was there. We fit and that's
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the I believe that you fit in the community, you
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: fit at the university, you fit in the athletic department.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: We fit.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Does Rich fit here?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: No question? He is here. I mean I say that
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: when I heath this is yeah, this is a glove fit. Yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: this is it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: We're blue collar.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: That's who we are, at least I hope that's you know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: let's let's keep let's embrace it.
• 27:13
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  Speaker 1: a rich Yes, I was you were at all Miss
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Louisiana Monroe and State Jacksonville State. You guys the more
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: since you guys been back. You guys loved Jacksonville State
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: loved it. Yeah, everybody loved it. Football was important.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, small town didn't have to go find go far
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: to find a player. I mean, Alabama's got a whole
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: bunch of them, and then they got the state to the
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: the to the west, Mississippi got football players. Georgia. I
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: mean there's football players, and football is important. I mean
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: they've they've always at all the levels, they've woned, all
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the levels they've been at. Division two, played for national championships,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: won national championship, one double A, played for national championship,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: was in the playoffs every year. So it's always nice
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: to be somewhere where it's important and you can win
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: because winning's fun. Just in case, you know, it's a
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: T shirt and winning is fun fun.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Confirmed.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, last week I was driving over Friday to Martinsburg
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and did a little thing football thing, And I'm gonna
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: make a statement. You guys can agree, just agree. If
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: rich has the success that we anticipate, and I do
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: think that he will, I think it becomes one of
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the greatest redemption stories, if you want to limit it
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to a bit in college sports. I think if he
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: comes back again and he has a level of success,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say eleven, eleven and eleven three
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: times in a row like he did last time. But
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: if West Virginia can become what Iowa State is now
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and that level of consistent success. I think that'll be
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: one of the great redemption stories agreed because of this
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and rich kind of fun. It makes a joke about it.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: But dude, Michigan, Arizona, Louisiana, Monroe, Ole, miss Jack State
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: back here. He says, you know, I wandered through the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: desert for seventeen years in order to get back.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: But he like he did.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: He paid his penance man to circle back through. It
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: was not the easy.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: No no, no no. I mean like when we went
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: to Monroe. He called me and I was, he was
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: out the year I was coaching. I was offensive coordinator
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: of high school Indiana and I was I was in
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: charge of study. My phone rings, walk right out at school.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Something something's about to go down.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: He goes to Louisiana.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm in. He goes, four words, lower your expectations.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I was in.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I got go home.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Tell my wife. That was three words.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: That's what we're.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Moving though Louisiana. Now, I don't want to hear no
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: one ever say you ask about what was like living
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: in the weather that Louisiana Humidity's different. Now it's you
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: walked out, you walk outside and you on your shorts,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I mean like bull yonn.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I mean it was like you walk out and it's like.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I'll never I'm not catholic, but I've been through purgatory.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: The third day of football practice at Louisiana Monroe was
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: so humid that my saw you would you would take
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: a step in your sugar. Oh my, everybody everybody were.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: We had like thirty kids, like full body cramps after practice. Yeah,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: it's a whole different. Yeah, so our players better never complain.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, no, yeah, they don't have beef bullion.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: No no no.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: So so all all all due respect to Louisiana Monroe
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: with all due respect.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Oh a great place though, great town was great, you
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: know in college town and home a Delta Airlines. Oh
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: really I'm full useless information too, but.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Great crawfish right Oh yeah yeah I've had them there
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: really well.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in case you guys have it those.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: So Dusty all this a little bit on this circuitous route.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: And you're with Rich almost the whole time. Did you
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: ever have discussions or thoughts or openly discussed ending up
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: back here? Did that come up?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was all the time, Like we never talked
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: about what would like to come back. But I mean
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: we never you talk about West Virginia and there's a
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: there's a love affair, you know, I mean, it's.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Were the words ever said.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to go back. Yeah, no, me maybe him. No,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: he's he is. He's a fun thing. He is singular focused.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Like he'll tell you that he believes the best way
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: to get a job is to be really good at
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the job you're at. He's always been that way. I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: can remember when we were at Glenville and he said,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I have a chance to be the head coach at
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Valdosta State. I'm like, Coach, I think you should go,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: as we're taking me in with you, but I think
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: you should go because if we ever want to be
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: like a head coach at Marshall, you know, you got
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: to go probably to the Valdosta State something like that.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: That's what get right over at our school.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, to forget that. Yeah, it's.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: He has to be the only Power five coach in
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the country. Power four doesn't have an agent. He doesn't
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: have an agent right now. Nope.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, he's incredibly he's incredible. He and
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I remember when his first time here, like he can
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: when he locks in, it doesn't matter if this is
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: on fire, and this is on fire, like when he's
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: doing one thing, he's a one thing guy. And then
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: he'll get like when that's done, then he'll get back
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to dealing with this. Right, But like when this is
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: this is, it doesn't matter, just like I'm just doing this.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: He's a practice. The next play is the most important
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: thing in his world at that moment. Yeah, and when
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: that play is over, it's the next play. So he yells.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: He don't yell long because he don't have time. We're
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: gonna go to the next one. We're gonna move on.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: And it's always and he It's amazing how many young
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: coaches will be they'll come from somewhere else and say, boy,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: if i'm a I'm a better coach because I coach
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because he's just so locked in.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Where there's the difference since the Glenville days. What's different
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: about him?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: He can't run, so now it's the StairMaster. There's no different.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I mean he's locked in.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I mean he here's the day to day meetings, no difference. No,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I think the day to day meetings will get a
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: little more philosophical, you know what I mean? Like this
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: morning's meeting. For a prime example is he went around
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the room and pointed out, eight of us are going
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: to get blood work. Older guys. Hey, he's paying for it,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: so so and so guess what, see if you can
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: get the hospital, come over. He's getting blood work. He's
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: getting blood work. I was like, coach, I got a
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: appointment thirty. You don't need a one because he knows
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I'm on top of that stuff now. But because Friday
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I had to go to see the cardiologist. But anyway,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: so he's on top of it and.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: The self there. So so okay, you mentioned this serial.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about those stories. You say he saved us.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: You say that he saved your life, and it's not
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: just a throwaway line. Walk us through that.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Here's what happened. Calvin McGee, God bless him. Calvin, And
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: you asked earlier my one of the closest you know.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Calvin was right there too. Calvin was really good at
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: like finishing his sentences in football terms, you know what
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, Like they knew they thought the same and
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: offensive football. But anyways, so Calvin dies suddenly.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Do me a favorite. But does he just stay on
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: the office. Sorry, no, no, we want to make sure
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: we so.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Unexpectedly he passes away and Rich was talking to Nick
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Saban and h coach. Saban told him that about a
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: program he made all his staff members do it. Uh
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: go get executive physical and Birmingham because there's a lot
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: of times in coaching what happens is you don't I'll
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: go the doctor next year. Next year you switch jobs
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: and then I'll go to the doctor next year. Never
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: get a primary care physician, you know. So save and
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: started the executive health thing for his staff and it
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: saves Sarkesian's life. Stark sark went in for a check
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: up and they didn't lay him leave. I mean they
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: had art surgery. So Rich said, you're going to do
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm not doing that. He said, no, what
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: you're doing? I said, coach, you know how expen that
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: those are. He said, I'm footing the bill. I said,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: save your money. My wife said cardiac nurse or that
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: was her specialty. Now she's a nursery work from home.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: But anyways, and I'm like, I'm thinking I'll get anything
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to let me leave, and he's thinking the same thing.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: So he said, you do it, you're fired. Guess what
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I might want to go get that done. So I go,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: and I went in on Monday, and Wednesday they put
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: a heart stand in and Thursday I get home and
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: I'm taking my wife was sick and we're taking a
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: COVID test. I said, I ain't taking a COVID test.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: So you're gonna be that guy. You're gonna be that guy.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want to take the test and make the
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: whole team sick. You're want to bust to marble. Okay,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I'll take the And as the thing was turning pink,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I think it was pink. I don't remember if I
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: had COVID or pregnant, but I get it. My phone rings,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I pick it up and I said, this is so
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: and so your PSA levels are elevated. I'm like public
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: service announcement PSA. No, it meant prostating. So my profstate
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: levels were elevated. And come to find out, I'd go
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: through all the ams and stuff, and so I had
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: stage four profst day cancer. If I would have never
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: done that, if he would have never made me go
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: get a the executive physical, I probably wouldn't be sitting here.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Because it was three years ago. I went through chemo
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: metastasized seven different spots. So I'll have it the rest
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: of my life. But without him making me go and
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: get it done, I wouldn't be here probably.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: And that that's not what rich would have done twenty
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: years ago.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I think he his heart would have done it, but
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't have thought like it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Because as we get older, when you go, boy, I
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: better get checked out and stuff like that, you.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean, Because when you're younger, you're gonna
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: live forever.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Oh heck, yeah, I was going on. You know what
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I mean. I used to say when I was in
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: my twenties and thirties, I'd like to lived about about fifty.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Years old until you get to be fifty.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: And I was forty two, and I thought, back the truck.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: You were in a reality show after after Michigan, After Michigan,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: before you you followed back out there. Show had how
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: many episodes? I think they shot maybe a dozen. I
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: think they put on eight of them.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what it's I I every time every
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: year at this time I think of it.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Why is that Stama Stamley here should have given week
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: so they call us in?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? The people Discovery or to
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: take you off for a shark week. How long shark
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: week last? They come in and it's a show. At
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: that time, former Mountaineer strength coach Mike Barwiss had a
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: workout facility. Dan Moses, all time great mountaineer.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Lineman, remyten Award winner, and you were all working together
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: at a facility in Michigan. And mich someone somewhere in
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: the production world says, this thing's kind of like a
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: lively American shoppers over on lift weights, lifting weights.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: What. Here's how it happened. There was a guy from
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: ann Arbor who played tennis at the University of Michigan,
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: and he came in to get personal trained with Dan
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Moses and he would come in every Saturday morning and
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Moses just kicked the crap out of him. Well, it
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: comes in one Saturday, He's got this tall guy with
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: him and I don't think nothing of it. And I mean,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: this gym is like we played in music loud and
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the stuff you would hear and we would be yelling
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: across the gym and after work, I said, helped to
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: see you again. He goes, you'll see me, and he
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: happened to be the president of Funnier Die the production
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: company owned by Will Ferrell. Okay, okay, so they do
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: like it was Billy on the Street or something, and
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: they had all those between two ferns and right right right,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: because you'll see me again from there.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: He's like, this is a reality show. So they came said,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: we'd like to do a reality show about you guys
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: because this is wild. Yeah, you guys are not normal.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Did you have represent Oh yeah, representation. If he had representation.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we were going to They had as convinced
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: that we were going to be the next coming of
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Duck Dynasty with oh yeah, we're gonna We're gonna have bobbleheads.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: And I said I don't want no bibblehead, Like you'll
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: make a lot of it. I said, I want a
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: bobble gut.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: So Cia so me.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, you know all the really good.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: That they were my he was c A was my
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: agent for agent C How scripted our reality shows more
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: than you think? Yeah, I figure right there. There'd be
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: certain things I wouldn't say because they would say, well,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: we need you to say this. I'm like, well no
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I can't do that. Why well, I got a there's
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: some guys out there. They know what they think. I
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: know some football and if I say that guy can
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: play and say Dusty's lost his mind.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Did you like the experience?
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Oh it was great.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Did you make any money?
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I think my contract was fifteen hundred an episode.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I be all was going to be big,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: going to be We're gonna make it real.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I was only making like thirty Yeah, when you worked
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: that desk, you're off mic again. I'm sorry. I apologize.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Just tell you let's head set with the microphone.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, just got my headless.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: That's sorry. Horseman six years from now when he got you,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: bring me back, you'll be good.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the show just kind of dissipates, and but
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: you had fun doing it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Great, a great time, well exposure. Several years later, we're
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: at Arizona and they start showing him again. They ran
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: we random and I get a phone call from a
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: guy from Discovery and he goes the show there's no
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: show without you. Okay, what would you need? I said,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I need half a million up front. I've never heard
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: back from too high to start. Yeah, Well I wasn't
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: gonna come down either, it's been half a million up front,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: take it or late. Yep.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of a bounce from that fifteen hundred,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: just a little bit. You're a you are a football football,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: football guy. I mean you you sniff it. We're getting
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: ready to start the season, but like it's three sixty
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: five for you. He's a livid Yeah, you're a livid guy.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Who is the who do you take great pride in
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: seeing on tape or calling out early that this guy
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: is going to be a stud that became a stud.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: The kid's name was Chris Dillman, played forest at Indiana,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: played well, I don't know, probably eight years.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a tight end linebacker in high school.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: So we recruit him at Indiana and I'm like one
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: of my jobs in Indiana, I was like the first
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: analyst in college football. I wrote all the cards for
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: the defense. My title special assistance to the head coach whatever.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: But they sent me away to the Washington Redskins to
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: learn from Charlie Casserly. Yeah yeah, valuate, Yes, yeah, I
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: come back. So it made me evaluate to play every
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: bond a team. Cam camera had me evaluate every bond
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: a team, and I said, we're screwing Chris Deal. He
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: was playing tight end at the time. I said, he's
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: it all pro guard. How about that?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I got lucky.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that one and then but I've missed on
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: some too. Now, Oh yeah, I said, I don't know
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: if that Moses guy is good enough to play. He's
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: one of my best friends. Now I understand, Yeah, Dan Moses,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, he's a little bit of a little undersize
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I was wrong.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Walk me through this because Mountaineer Nation oftentimes talks about
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: this Pat White getting on the field as late as
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: he did in that Louisville game. Now, he had been
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: playing some some but had not clearly separated himself from
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Adam Banaik. Looking back on that, did that play true
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: to form? Or do you guys maybe wish you would
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: have pushed his ticket and just said this is the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: guy earlier.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I but coach don't talk about
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: things like that. I mean, he doesn't look.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but that's what we kind of did, right.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The easy thing to say is, oh, we screwed
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: that one up. But I don't think think about what
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: bet and Erik was doing. He completed seventy percent of
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: his balls. It wasn't like, go, we're five and one
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: at the time, right, you know, No, obviously Pat White
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: was the right choice, right. But I forget who think,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if anyone said I don't.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I've never heard anyone in the ability and say, boy,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: we should have played him earlier.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I forget who said it, but it was a
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: player who said players oftentimes know before the coaches who
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the guy really is. No question.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Here's here I give you a prime example of that word.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: At Arizona and we're the first time we'd ever done it.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: We go split up the team for the spring game.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: We had a bunch of guys on the team. We
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: had depth, and Dusty, you're the head coach of one team,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: and Matt Dudeck was the head coach of their team.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: So we're getting there.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so I went to the players, tell me
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: the guys that everybody said Khali Tate should be the quarterback.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: M I'm like, okay. So I win the coin toss
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: for the first pick, and then Matt Dudek, who was
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: a recruiting guy, I said, I said, well, who are
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: you going to take? He said, I take the quarterback?
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: I said, well, if you promise to take the quarterback.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I will then get the next three picks.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he take what you wanted to play.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: So I got the best. I got the best four
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: players and beat the We beat the breaks off of
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: he didn't take Tate, So you got Tate and four
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: other three. I got to the next three picks. If
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: you got if you took a guy, if you took
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: a running back, then I got the backup you.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I knew the running back wasn't going to
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: play because he broke his leg the year before and
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: we're coach Rod Wing going to put him into his
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: friend game. So I took I took the quarterback. I
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: got the quarterback I wanted, and I took the center.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Someone gonna snap the ball. That guy, he gonna start
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: the stuff.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Then we had a freshman, true freshman middle linebacker, only
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: been there six weeks, by the name of Tony Fields.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: You guys, that was a great addition, Like you took
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: a freshman.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to the linebacker. Coaches it was your
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: best fight.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: So so do you know do you know from drills
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: from or do you have to get to scrimmage? Do
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: you have to get to games. I mean, when does
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: it become apparent that a guy is a guy or
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: does it vary?
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Varies? I think sometimes in the world we live in,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: it's hard because you don't get to go live a lot,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you can't afford to go
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: live a lot. And then some guys are lill tait
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: are better live and we realize, oh boy, because in
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: practice you run and oh he was down. In real
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: life he wasn't down, you know, And that's.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: And that's what you're gonna do that this coming in
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, you're gonna go. You're going
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: we're going to have to I think what we're going
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: to talk about. I mean, yeah, that's what he told me.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: He said a couple of times, go live to see
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: who's going to stat who's gonna say I'm the guy.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to because that's different. I mean, it's
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: not you recruit and they got all these high school
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: kid teams play seven on seven. It's not the same.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Well, and more than ever, just from a number standpoint,
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: there's just so many new guys.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe in the cud of years you don't have to
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: do that as much. But this year you got to
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: see which.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: God, Yep, we gotta figure out ways to find out
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: and we can't can't have can't be any excuse for
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: why a guy standing next to you on the sideline, Well, no,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: he can't learn it. No, figure it out, dude, do
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: a good job coaching them, so the the best best
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: twenty two are on the field.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's one of the great bad excuses that
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: coaches have used through the years. I mean, you've heard it,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: We've heard it. Dumbest guy I've ever coached in my life.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, dumbest guy. Right, Well, guess what, man, not
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: everyone's not everyone's going to be a Rhodes scholar. That
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: is your job. If he's the dumbest person, then figure
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: out which way he learns. Everybody's by touching, is it
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: by seeing? Is it by repid? What is it? That's
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: your job to make him.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the things we've changed.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say we, I'm not rich. Rodriguez has changed
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: over the years. Is meeting time walk through time. We
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: do a lot of everything where we used to like
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of meetings or now we do a lot
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: of meetings, walk through so that everybody learns different, so
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: you have a chance to reach all the guys.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, OTAs in your opinion, how are how valuable nowadays? Critical?
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: And now I you know there's talk of the NC
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: is going to go.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: To them next year. You go get twenty days.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Spread out over whenever you want to do it, which
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: is yeah, really good.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: You gotta do it because this is becoming a pro model,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: that's right.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with the two transfer portals. You know, now,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: if there's one portal, yeah, it's different, but with the
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: two portals.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: There isn't an official preseason Big twelve poll this year,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: but if West Virginia were, if there was, the consensus
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: seems to be is to be right at the bottom.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Fourteen fifty fourteen, fifteen sixteen is what they're saying. I
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think internally, you're going like bull.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't we be say it again, why wouldn't we
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: be voted to the bottom. Yeah, you've got seventy new guys. Yeah,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: and then when the two guys basically playing time from
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, right, so what do you what do you
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: see and know of this roster that makes you feel
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: better than fourteen, fifteen or sixty.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: That's a tough one answer because I don't know what
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: their rosters have. You know, you don't know did Texas
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Tech who bought all those players? And did they buy
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: the right ones? Are they going to jail? Are they
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: not going to jail? Are they gonna jail?
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So you don't know. What do you
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: know about this team at West Virginia, Like, coach, what
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: are the givens that you think they're.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Going to get coached hard? They're going to expect it
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: to be expected to play hard and on both sides
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: of the ball, you know, I mean it's not like
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Zach Ally's the Oh he's just a smart guy. No,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: he's a smart guy who coaches hard. Jeff Castill coaches
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: people hard.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna work with it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: I'll be shocked if we have a team that doesn't
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: give great effort because we'll demand great effort. Coach will
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: demand great effort, and it starts at the top.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Talk to someone last week. They said, what will happen
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: is that as the season goes on and you're teaching
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: to these guys of how hard they have to play,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: will win games late because other teams will dissipate, and
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: you guys will just keep climbing in the harder to
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: play category. When the leaves come off the trees and
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: it's starting to get cold and people are just kind
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: of wivel wobbling as to what kind of season we're having,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: that's when you guys will.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: That's that's been our' that's been coaches track record is
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: we're not the same team in the week one and
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: we are week ten to eleven. Ever, it's always been.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: This, do you believe that the starting quarterback situation will
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: be clear, will be evident heading into the first game,
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: or will it be we have to make a choice,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: and but there'll be a hook if he doesn't perform.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, what do you think that what do you
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: think that will be?
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: That's the first time, the first time I've ever thought
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: of that. I you hope it's like, oh, boys, no brainer.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Who knows?
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, more than one could play about Derek and Pat.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's there's nothing says that you won't see
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: two guys exactly.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Rich said on this program he wanted three
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: or four guys, right right.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Said he wanted seven. Actually, so you want three or
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: four guys.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: But he says he feels comfortable he has multiple guys
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: you can win with, is how he said it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he thinks he's got five guys in the room
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: right that he feels good about that you could.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: Win games with you.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. See the thing about him I think is like
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of people will put a lot into this
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: quarterback quote unquote it's most important. Yeah, I mean everyone
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: does that. But like I think Rich is the guy
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: that cares the least as to who it is. I
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: think like Rich, it doesn't matter like which of the
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: five it is. To him, he knows what it needs
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: to be and what he wants. It could be a
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: three headed Martian. He go like three headed Martian making place.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: But the three head he does, what does he do specially? Yeah,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: he doesn't. He doesn't care who it is. Just like,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: show me right now in the next five weeks, go
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: and show me. I knew that's the guy that's gonna play.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I don't care who it is.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't that be in life? Yes, So if you're not
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: the best guy at that seat right.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: There, yeah, that's what So I don't I don't I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: think the days of like this young man paid his
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: dues or this young man's a legacy or this young
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: man all that stuff that used to play in it.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's all gone now.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, well, well that's the problem with societies.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: We're all I'm entitled. No, you're entitled to. I'm entitled
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: to better show up the work tomorrow. The dude, you're
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: paying me, So guess what we're paying these kids, and
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: the better show up tomorrow and work. Yeah.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: The other thing is you don't have to. You don't
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: have any luxury of time.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: None.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: What you have finally is a schedule to start the
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: season with that plays out. Well, you have Robert Morris
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying, o how you is going to
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: be a walk will be. It's a challenge.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: People earlier on you said, hey, Iowa State, you're going
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: to be like Iowa the Iowa State lost at I know.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, it's not a power for
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: to open the season on the road. It's not Past State,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: it's not Maryland, it's not a pit to start the thing.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: At least we can get our feet for eight quarters
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: of just kind of and then.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: There's a reason that Indiana won ten games last year,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: they bought out a Louisville game, and all of a sudden,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: you get some momentum and you start feeling good about yourself.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: On what Indiana do now? They bought out of the
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Virginia game to play somebody else. And here's where here's
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: where I learned that. I was in Indiana for four years.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: We played Minnesota four times. If you'd have said in
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: the mid nineties, whose football program was better, everyone would
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: say Minnesota. We played them four times, We won twice,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Day won twice. Our non conference was Kentucky North Carolina
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: with when they were just loaded with Dre Bly and
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Jeff Saturday, those guys. So there's two Well Kentucky was
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: cheating at that time they went on probation.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I thought they were cheating.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, who in Minnesota play well? They played Northern Illinois.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, absolutely Minnesota. Stay screaming Eagles with Dawburn Hayden,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Foxy Fox.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: That's that's That's what I mean. I'm not telling anything
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: you don't know. That's what's hurt this program. We got overscheduled,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: knew when it was happening when they announced that second
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Power five fire four teams like that's silly. Least it's
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: started to get some normalcy back.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, have you given any thought to what you will
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: be thinking before you take the field against Robert Morris
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: when you're back on the actual field.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Actually, I won't sleep the every every opener every year.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Never sleep, you know, the whole night. You don't go
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: down the whole week. Also got some information to death.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Was in his office last week. You never know what
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: you never know what you're going to see.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: You can't take a moment and look around.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Oh heck, yeah, I take a moment every now and
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: I walk out there, walk by, and.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: We're home and so got some weird information on him
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: last week. Excuse me, Dusty? What was I was in
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: his office?
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Dusty's office?
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, first time he was here. He was on the sideline.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Now I'm getting reconnaissance, Like you go a bunch of
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: different places while the game is happening, including your office.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, what is going on?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Nuts now? The Donnie Young my role, Donnie I used
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: to say, boy, football being great, this would be the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: best job in the world. We'd have to play the game,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: just hang out together and work, just getting better and
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: don't have to go through that drama winning and losing.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I yeah, so you go, you just you get so
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: nervous out.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: I know the first the first game will be like that.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: But the just I don't have no control or anything.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Now, you used to try to help rich You used
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: to try to help on the side.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: You know times have been told shut up getting back.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: I was told, well two years ago.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Tell Dusty shut.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't on the head.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: You probably stuck another word in there, but you probably
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: stuck a different word. And besides the shutting the up.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, he.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: Could hear you in the background of the coaches Mike and.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: He's yelling, tell him he shut. Run it again, running again,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: Rob Smith tapping right on the back, running again. We
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: ever throw it? Run it again? Tell Dusty shut.
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  Speaker 2: uh huh, but a biscuit with some gravy on it. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like people come up the road, come to the game,
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  Speaker 1: they'll stop and get biscuits. Who was it? They just
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  Speaker 1: said they could eat three. We had someone in here,
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  Speaker 1: that's Eddie.
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  Speaker 4: Steve Savans claimed he could savings.
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  Speaker 1: He could do three.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Savans gave you three, Eddie, I believe two eighty five.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going there and I'm getting the sup breakfast platter.
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  Speaker 2: Sure biscuits with the gravy. Two eggs. How I like him? No,
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  Speaker 2: I normally get the scrambled, but right over.
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  Speaker 4: Each sometimes whatever way you need to feel a runny
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  Speaker 4: egg into the business and the gravy it makes it nice.
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  Speaker 2: I like to dip my toast in the yes.
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  Speaker 1: Correct. One of the things that we do now before
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: home games since you've been gone, is three guys. Well
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: you hear you're a regular watcher. So we have our
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  Speaker 1: food court before home games next to Daniels and we
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: have Revkevs Barbecue, which I'm gonna get for you, and
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: it's ren Baker said this about n was saying he
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: was bemoaning that there's not a lot of great barbecue.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Since he came here. Where do I find great barbecue?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I said, I got great barbecue for a guy named
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Kevin Kane. He's where's his business? So he doesn't have one.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: He's a he's a preacher in Westover, king to MEMC.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: But he has a forty foot barbecue trailer and they
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: do it as a nonprofit and they supply all the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: money they make they give the kids for lunch programs
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the weekends. They put it in their lunch box. So
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: he makes so I get him brit I get brisket
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: for him and Rev and Wren says to Kevin while
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: he's eating it, he says, Rev, he said, I think
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: this brisket can bring more people to the Lord than
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: an altar call. That's wow. Yeah, it's it's that good.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: It's that good. So he's there now one of the
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: other new additions are adding to the food court this year,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: and this is done. Is this confirmed? Yeah?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: Are you just saying this?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, this is good.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: I got actual proof that'd be new, something new.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I'm walking out with that loaf of bread.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: This is this is sour dough. There's a young lady.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: There's a young lady by the name of Kayla who
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  Speaker 1: has a micro bakery in her home here in west Over,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: and so she makes this listen. Her name of her
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: company is Grateful bread, which I freaking love the name.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: She gave me a loaf of this sour dough which
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I will give to you. And you know I'm a
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: food snob, right and something sucks, I say it sucks,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: and if it's not any good, I will say and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: if it's really good, I will go over the top.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: This sour dough bread was absolutely spectacular. Haven't had it
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: better anywhere, really, and I love it. I'm gonna give
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: it to you now what you have in front of you,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: So look.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: You can order bread and.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: That's a sour dough by the way, that's that's sour
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: dough chocolate chip. So listen, you can pre order these
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: this year at the food court. You put the order
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: in to Grateful Bread and you can pick it up
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: at the food court on weekends. And what you guys
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: are eating right.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: Now though, ye'll be taking orders now, Kaylin knows you
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: just said that on there.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Just go to the Grateful Bread website.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: She sometimes he says things in front of the.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Now, let me give you one other thing. She also
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: does this unbelievable baker. There's a scone in there starting
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: this scone stars where changed scone? We have scones yeah,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: try that one. So it looks that's available starting, that's
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: available this week at Mountaineer Roasting. She's going to sell
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: those out of Mountaineer Roasting this week. Now. I want
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: to know. I want to know. Talk to me.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry I was eating.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Talk to me.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: Is gonna be well Mountaineer Roasting starting this little game
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: day grind coffee.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you? Delicious, delicious right hot and hoppy is chocolate? Yeah, exactly, exactly.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: This is a big time I want to ask you, Kayla. Okay,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: she's fan. It might be the nice not you know
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: how Greg Hunter. We always say Greg Hunter's nicest guy
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: in the world. She's I've met with her. She's fantastic.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Do you but how do you get it again? How
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: do you access it?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Go to the Grateful Bread? I mean hoppy for a
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: guy that just ran four hundred or road four hundred
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: and seven miles.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. That's great.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Full good bread.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Comes up.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: It's on Facebook, shop online. We love sourdough, the original
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Grateful Bread. She got a beautiful website.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Say it one more time.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: What's the company Grateful Bread?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: Kayla?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: You know there's a couple of them out there. Wait,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: a second.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: So go on.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: When you go there, there's one in California. Go to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: the Grateful Bread Facebook page. Boom, there you go. Now
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: you're in. Go to the Grateful Bread Facebook page.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: You can do it there and you order there.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: But then how do you pick it up?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: How do you get it?
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: The bread you'll be able to pick up at her
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: kiosk at the food court.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, what if you want it now?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: She sells it locally at various food She sells it
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: at Mail's Produce over there on pier Pot Road. Mail
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: the remember Mail used to be at it. She came
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: and did our She's got fruit stands around Morgantown. She's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: got one on peer Pot Road, not far from you are.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: She'll sell her right down there, duncan. The peer Pot Road, though,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: is kind of the original, and you can go there
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: and she sells her bread Dusty before I let you go, Yes, sir,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: you actually had answers there for you. I'm stunned. You
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: guys try.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: You tried to get him.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: He had answers. Don't play with me, Duster. Yeah, that's good.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: I asked Rich what's his secret sauce? He says, it's
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: the tempo now that's kind of a but he was
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: being serious. I said, how do you He goes, it's conditioning. Yes,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: I said, is that just extra running? He goes, No, no, no, no,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: it's practice. That's the only way by going super fast
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: in practice. Here's what's going to happen. Has that changed?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: Go ahead?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: No, here's what's going to happen in practice tomorrow morning.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: First one, there's gonna be a time and a practice.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: He's gonna yell at the string staff, we're out of shape.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: You already know it's coming.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's thirty years now. And he won't say it
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: that nice.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: No, no, oh he might.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: He's we're kinder Jim when we used to be. And
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: he's gonna we're gonna rap.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go faster maybe than we were went before.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Really why.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Not?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: Why? How you know what I mean? Why do you
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: think you need to go faster than ever before?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Just works?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: You're you're becoming more, you're becoming more into the school.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: That that is the secret is the faster is the
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: difference maker?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, however, howsomever however.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: But we get way ahead or yeah, he does a
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: great job of that.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: But almost every team maybe, except for all teams have
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: a way of going fast. Now maybe not the whole game,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: but they can go fast depending on you know, down distance,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: score things like that. And then because of that, defenses
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: have adjusted to be able to defend fast. So is
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: it the advantage that it was the first time Rich
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: was here when not as many people were going fast?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: See? I still think it's an advantage because if you
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: if you some people date it.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: We're married to it, we live it.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: So you can say, well, all the teams who don't
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: go fast on offense, you can you can practice it.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: But to practice the intensity of a practice still isn't
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: the intensity of a game.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: In practice, you run.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Thirty to forty plays and the game will run eighty
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: to one hundred. So it's the last thirty or forty
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: that make a difference where we make conditioning a factor.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: So I think, I think, I still think it's huge,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: huge advantage.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Do you have any do you have defensive coaches? I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: think we asked this a defensive coach. Do you have
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: defensive coaches worried that you're going fast and you have
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: a possession that's three and out and uses forty five seconds?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: I think in our minds that sometimes they complain. But
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: I think the people who don't go fast use as
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: an excuse, Well, I don't want to put that pressure
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: on my defense.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Zach ally doesn't seem tomore.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I've never heard Zach say, well, boy, I wish they'd
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: slow down or okay.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: So that description right there is similar to basketball full
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: court pressing for an entire game, the old press Virginia,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: where some of the effect isn't just immediate, it's the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: cumulative effect that steps in. You think that's a that's
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: a big advantage. Cumulative it makes it makes it.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Mentally when you get fatigue, then all of a sudden, mentally,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: I can't you feel like you can't catch up.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: So I think it's.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Huge, part huge, huge, the mental just mentally wearing someone's down.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: Have you all done the analytics that when you go
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: fast for that long that you increase the number of mistakes?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: No, we have not.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, you haven't done the analytics, or you don't make
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: more mistakes?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: No, well, no, we haven't done the analytics. All right,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: I mean we don't. You're talking about you're talking about
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: mister Simons, I asked, I asked Rich about that.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Our mister Sigmons, go down when we go like one
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: word place when he's talking about opposing defense ass as
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: you go during But you don't always know because I
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: don't know what they're calling, you know. I mean, that's
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: that's the worst thing. I like this the PFF, the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus, and I have to give you a score.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Well, football coach is great in you, but does he
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: really know what you're calling? And how does he know
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: that was the corner who.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Didn't screw up in instead of the safety?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Did that player do that responsibility? Based on that package?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: He dusty on that back to going fast? Now let
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: you guys jump back in there. So on going fast
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: and now the coach and rich calls, the players can
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: talk to record to the quarterback. So how how difficult
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: is it for whoever that quarterback or quarterbacks are that
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: they got it? You're going fast and you're getting to
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: play fast, I mean, and you got to and then
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: when the ball is snapped, you got to think about
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: how many different things? So what is the what level
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: do you have to have? What level of expertise and
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: skill and do you have to have at that level
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: to be a successful quarterback in a rich Rudvviguez system.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: You gotta be able to process information quickly, all right.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Coach always says, you don't want a guy has to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: take the act untimed.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, he needs a guy.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: And you'd be surprised if once you live it, and
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: once you do it over and over and over, it
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: becomes just who you are. Okay, I mean it's uh,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: there's more time you hand the ball off and he
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: gets tackled on the out of bounds line. Okay, that
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: ball still has to travel seventeen and two thirds to
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: get back into the into the near hash. We're all
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: coaches calling that play, and Red's gonna be talking to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: the quarterback. So it's not like.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Soon as that plays down, soon as that guy gets.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Tackled, you snap at the next play. Now, we'd like
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: it to be like that. So that would be Rich's goal,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: But there's still some it's not as bad as you
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: if you live it, it's not nearly as bad as
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: you think.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: What's rich the offensive coordinator's biggest advantage? What's he do
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: better than anybody else?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: As he knows his stuff, he knows and then you
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: know the answers. You have the answers to what doesn't work.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: He's seen every you've seen, I mean, like what what
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: what can't we.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: I mean you do. It's like Mike Leach that he
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: had the answers to for his stuff. You know, when
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: you have the answers, you know, I mean, they can
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: only put so many things on the test.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: You know what they're going to try if.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: They do change it. I've seen that before. He can
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: go back to the roll decks in his head and say, oh,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: that was Oh that was twenty twelve, Colorado did.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: That, right, So exactly, that's the intellectual property. That's the
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: difference maker, because as a young coach, he hasn't seen, like,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: you know, someone schemes something like say John Haycock, your
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: boy over at Iowa State, their defensive coordinator. Right, he'll
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: always come up a little something or he'll change his
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: game plan to start the second half. Well, like Rich
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: has been in it long enough now where he goes like, Okay,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I got that, here's the answer. But if you're a
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: young guy calling and you haven't seen, and all of
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: a sudden you get you paralysize analysis, and you go.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Ah, I'm screwed. Yeah, that's the difference you have no answers.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: You got to have a and we do. Coach does
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: a great job. He'll have an answer sheet, and we
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: we have an answer sheet for offense, defense, special teams,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: and for each thing of special teams. What if we
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: see this too, returners back on punt that we don't
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: see it all year, and all of a sudden were
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: going to see it because maybe we're a roll punt team. Boom,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: We have the answers. Do this if the same thing
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: on the offense, I mean on the defensive staff and
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Zach Ally's bright, bright guy, and so oh shoot, oh
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: they're gonna run power this week. Okay, what's our answers
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: if they start doing different things?
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: Because that's the other part with speed, The offensive coordinator
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: in this case has to go fast too. It's not
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: just the players have to go fast. The offensive coordinator
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: is having to process so quickly, and it's his stuff
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 4: that he knows intimately that allows it.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Is harder in my opinion, it is harder on the
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: coach and is the player. Now, it's harder on the
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: player physically because we don't we don't want a substitute
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: in the middle of a drive, you know, I mean
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: we're trying to get back and they because.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: If you substitute, then they get a substitute. We don't
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: want to stand over the ball. That's why.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: The one thing that we've really changed is we've used
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: the tight ends and in a lot of different Oh
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: we go spread sets and you'll see two two tight
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: ends out there. So we don't change personnel.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Are you are you?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: You don't change personnel.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: But when you're going fast, so you're runna play and
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: you quickly line up, then you're gonna run that play regardless,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: or you're gonna look and see if the defense has
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: done something and then pause and change.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: You don't change. No, No, there might be like, okay,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: the quarterback will change certain of the certain defenses. Like okay,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: oh boy, this is used to be the old days.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: Everybody will what you do gainst bear defense? Run speed
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: option week. It's great, it's a good call against the
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: bear defense. Other than that, no, everything's built in. Oh shoot,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: we want to run. We don't run at the three
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: technique or three technique or yeah.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Is there a awareness by the officials.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: Or any worst. They're the worst of them. Old fat
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: guys would be like me out there, they're trying to
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: catch their breath and yeah they're I.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: Mean they're standing over the ball. I mean, but is
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: there an awareness or no, go to the officials like
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: we go fast, we need to get off.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to them throughout the summer, but
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: come into it, do our camp and where they We're
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: gonna go faster in practice and the less go in
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: the game. You know, because in practice we don't have referees,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: so we're we're spotting the ball. And sometimes the referees
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: come in for a practice and they don't have to
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: spot the ball. Our managers do it. Mm hmm, yeah,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: that's key. Yes, we would tell them we want to
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: go fast.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you don't want the referees at every every game.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: You watch at the end of the into the end
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: of the half, they pick it up, they spot it faster,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: they know they know. Guess what we want to go.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: We want to play like that you're trying.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: It's the last ten seconds of the half, the whole game.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, just pretend like every every boy.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: You brought several players over with you from Jacksonville State,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: will Fred Perry be the most no to bull contribute
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: right off the bat.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: That's not fair. You're gonna like Fred face. The fans
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: will like Fred. Yeah, people West Virginia will like Fred
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: because he hit you in the face. He might take
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: out Jed Drenning forty years old, goes on the sideline.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Fred's Yeah.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Who else we gonna like anyone in particular football team?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, anyone else in particular that you think might
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: be being sleeped on at all?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Not really, Okay, I don't know.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: I don't. I used to be like, here's to buy
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: all the magazines and the Yeah, what they saying about
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: our team doesn't matter anymore.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: That business has changed. Magazines they make them, but like
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: seventy new dudes. I mean, if you think you how
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: do you know? We don't last thing for you?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: But you dust I remember preseason practice one year and
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: I was talking to you, and I forget the second player,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: but what was what was pac Man's number? What was
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: his number?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Two?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Nine?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: Was he nine?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And was he the same?
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: Who else was this stud on that team? Was Chris
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: Henry on that slim slim? And what was his numbers?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Five? Five?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: And I remember Dusty talking to you and asking you
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: what do you like here? And you said I like
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: nine and I like five. Yeah, and those guys, those
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: are two guys that stood out.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: They sound like a sore thumbs though. I mean, like,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: come on, Packman Jones, the first round draft pick. Yeah magic.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: If if Chris Henry were stayed, he'd have been he'd
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: have been like one of those. Especially today's game where
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: you're six.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Foot five and can run.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because now they don't take a running backs
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: in the first round. No more.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: Have you had fun? That's fun here doing? Oh yeah?
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: I want to come back next week, but they won't
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: let me. You're gonna get busy. You watched this show?
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: You t like during all the years you've been gone,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: you've been watching. This is your eighth year coming up
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: next month. You've been watching.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: I've been. I watched a lot of the shows. No,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: not all the episodes, because I'm not. They're so busy.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: You're not. You don't want to watch the preview. You
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to watch the preview for uh, for Texas Tech,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech or Muscatel State or anything. Yeah.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: I like football, So if you had a football guy on,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: I I watched the football guy, And if you have
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: you'd bring on the Indy.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Card, right watch it You like that too? Oh yeah, okay, okay, well.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: This will be good.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Enjoyable.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: Hadn't very enjoyable.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: It's good and it's it's good to have Dusty back,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: and it's good to reconnect with Dusty.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: It's good to be back. And it's seriously, it's West
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Virginia's a special place and it's not. It's not because
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: all the buildings or it's the people. Yeah, you know,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I mean it was like that the first time and
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: we knew that, you know what I mean, So special people.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: It's great to be able to come back home again,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: right right.
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