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Old Matt Donald · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with I R Radio. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. It is
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and Ben is in Honduras this week, so he
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  Speaker 1: is not here, but I am joined by our lovely
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  Speaker 1: producers Tory and Danielle, and we're going to hit up
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor hot topics before we get Matt Donald from
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  Speaker 1: Hannah Brown season in b I P Season six, who
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  Speaker 1: you may remember how the relationship with Sydney and as
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  Speaker 1: he called supermodel Bree Barnes. But first let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: this the sass that that Colton threw out there this week.
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  Speaker 1: So much sass I love, I think I love Colton.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Coulton is is serving up some drama. I
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  Speaker 1: like to I like listening to it. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even have an opinion based
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  Speaker 1: on what he's talking about. This week, Rachel Lindsay went
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  Speaker 1: on Wife What Happens Live with Andy Cohen and she
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  Speaker 1: says that she will never be friends with Raven Gates again.
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  Speaker 1: If you guys remember, they were good friends on Nick
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  Speaker 1: bi all season, and then they were tight after the fact.
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  Speaker 1: They were going on vacations and stuff. Together. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, she unfollowed Raven on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and she, you know, wasn't at the wedding, and
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  Speaker 1: there were speculation that they weren't friends anymore. We don't
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  Speaker 1: know what that is. And Rachel even said on Andy
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  Speaker 1: Cohen that whatever happened, whatever caused this feud, was enough
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  Speaker 1: for me, quote quote, it was enough for me not
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  Speaker 1: to be friends with her anymore. She also went on
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  Speaker 1: to say that the reason that the friendship ended would
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  Speaker 1: never be put out there. She would never put it
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  Speaker 1: out there because she promised she wouldn't put it out there.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know what this all means, but you
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  Speaker 1: are putting it out there, she's out was like that,
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  Speaker 1: that's not cool. You can't say that there's a reason
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  Speaker 1: you're not putting out there. If you are just almost
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  Speaker 1: saying at all, you could legit just be yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just only want to talk about it. We just
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  Speaker 1: went our separate ways. Then that's like more of a casual,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like I will never be friends with Rachel
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  Speaker 1: wants people to know that Raven did something bad. But
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing, what could she have done bad? So
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  Speaker 1: for what I said, I was like, well, unless she
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  Speaker 1: like hooked up with Brian exactly, that's not like forgivable
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  Speaker 1: because if we're in the girl room, we're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's for sure because of a boy. For sure because
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  Speaker 1: of a boy. But you're married and engaged. I can't
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  Speaker 1: even think of a girl brain like in my mind
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  Speaker 1: to be like, oh, then this would be the next thing.
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  Speaker 1: Like if it's not a boy, I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: else it would be. And she touched Brian anyway or
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  Speaker 1: was flirty or something, but she's she's engaged. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why she would ever do that, but that's the
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing I'd be like, you know why we're
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  Speaker 1: not friends because she touched Brian totally And I want
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  Speaker 1: Raven to like speak to her side and tell us
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  Speaker 1: what happened Raven. But we did start this conversation out
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  Speaker 1: by saying that Colton is the one that's been sassy
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  Speaker 1: and this is because not only was this just a
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  Speaker 1: juicy tidbit that we got from Rachel on Watch What
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  Speaker 1: Happens Live, but then Colton responded making it even juicier,
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  Speaker 1: saying that what is right? Does Rachel like anyone? He
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  Speaker 1: wrote it on Instagram under a photo about this drama.
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  Speaker 1: Does does Rachel like anyone? Nick Vill has since responded
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  Speaker 1: saying I think she likes me, which is funny. But
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  Speaker 1: I will say when I think of Rachel, I don't
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  Speaker 1: really think of positive or light. I think that she
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  Speaker 1: does kind of bring a lot of and I get it.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of need to bring a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: negative parts of something to light, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that's what she feels like she needs to speak upon,
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  Speaker 1: is being like, hey, you know, I don't really like
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  Speaker 1: Colton as being the next Bachelor. I'm not a big
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  Speaker 1: fan of that. And I think it was because of
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  Speaker 1: the age, which is fine, but it's when I think
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  Speaker 1: of her, I think negative. Really, but she's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a negative person. I'm here for it. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love that she speaks her mind, kind of like
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  Speaker 1: how we're on team Colton right now because he's speaking
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  Speaker 1: his mind. I'm all for that. I feel like sometimes
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  Speaker 1: people that are the Bachelorettes or the Bachelor, they play
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  Speaker 1: it safe and Rachel's like, nah, this is me and
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  Speaker 1: there we go. You know, I do love her for that.
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  Speaker 1: I do love that. I think you can do it,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't know I don't know why it.
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  Speaker 1: For me, it just seems like she's kind of catty
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  Speaker 1: over saying some things. Let's dive further into what Colton said.
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  Speaker 1: He said that he made that remark because one time
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  Speaker 1: Rachel allegedly to use the Wendy Williams word spoke crap
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  Speaker 1: about Colton to Cassie and she hadn't even met Colton
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  Speaker 1: in real life. Oh yeah, there's that too. How did
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  Speaker 1: that happen? How does she like slide into Cassie's d M.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe no, I think that she met Cassie in her life,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know. This is all speculation, alleged blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah. But I will say we get that a
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  Speaker 1: normal I don't think that you should take that personal.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many times when my friends like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of talking to this guy. I'm like, oh, my
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  Speaker 1: friend of a friend. Yeah, she dated him and it
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  Speaker 1: ended really badly. But this girl was a girlfriend. But
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't a girlfriend then no, no no, no, she was
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  Speaker 1: a girlfriend. Then like, as oh, you mean Rachel didn't
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  Speaker 1: has not met Colton something. Yeah, I don't really like
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  Speaker 1: Cassie about him. That's pretty distasteful in my opinion, because
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  Speaker 1: it's like, you don't know the guy. She his girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: clearly loves him, so why are you trying to be
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  Speaker 1: an instigator? In that sense, it's all you know, we
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  Speaker 1: don't really know how this conversation went down. I also
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel like when you're in the Bachelor Nation,
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  Speaker 1: you feel like you can speak upon things, probably more freely,
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  Speaker 1: Like she's like, oh, I went through this, so let
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  Speaker 1: me give you some of the warning signs or like
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  Speaker 1: what you should be looking out for. Where maybe she
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  Speaker 1: was trying to be kind of sisterly with it, but
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of is like, well, that's my boyfriend already,
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  Speaker 1: so are you saying something? But I feel like in
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor it's like nobody really understands that nation as
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  Speaker 1: well as just being in it. So people try to
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  Speaker 1: help you out, but it can come off wrong. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's vague, it could be interpreted in many ways, but
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  Speaker 1: it is fun for us to watch. That's what I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna say. I want to know what I want. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But and I do like the fact that Colton is
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  Speaker 1: talking back. I think it's well again, it is entertaining
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  Speaker 1: for us. It is it's refreshing for people to like
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  Speaker 1: kind of just bite back. Can we get some of
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  Speaker 1: our listeners to think of what they think the situation
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  Speaker 1: was yet the allegedly stories, we need people to dig
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  Speaker 1: in and really figure it out. Come on and then
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  Speaker 1: next week we're going to read all the emails of
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  Speaker 1: the speculations. Maybe they'll get they'll be so bad that
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  Speaker 1: Raven will just have to come out and tell us. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like there's so many rumors circulating now she has to
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  Speaker 1: speak her truth and make Danielle's day better. I mean, Raven,
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  Speaker 1: we would love to have you on the show. Wait
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  Speaker 1: but email at email Ben and Ashley at I heart
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  Speaker 1: media dot com. Yeah, because I want to know what
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  Speaker 1: do people think? I what is it? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't return the dress. It's totally about a boy.
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  Speaker 1: It has to be has I think it has to
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  Speaker 1: be too maybe oh oh what maybe rachel or Raven
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  Speaker 1: said something about a concern before she got married, about Brian,
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  Speaker 1: and then she was recovery and carry But you know
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  Speaker 1: what people circle because yeah, because she was talking to
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  Speaker 1: Cassie saying here's what her concerns are, or whatever whatever
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  Speaker 1: vague things she said to cast about Colton. Maybe that
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  Speaker 1: situation happened to her from Raven, and then it was like,
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  Speaker 1: you can't come back for that. I'm marrying the guy.
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  Speaker 1: You've already said. What you think Like maybe it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I think Brian's doing this, or maybe it was like
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  Speaker 1: the reverse, like we thought maybe Raven was like flirting
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  Speaker 1: with Brian, but maybe Raven told Rachel I get weird
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  Speaker 1: vibes from Brian, or you know, maybe opposite. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of weird. He's very he's a chiropractor, right, He's a
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  Speaker 1: touchy person, and he's Latin. And I could say this
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  Speaker 1: because I'm Latin too, Like we're just like overly like
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  Speaker 1: affectionate people, like I could see I don't know, I
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  Speaker 1: could see that. Yeah, or maybe she wasn't bridesmaid, so
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  Speaker 1: then Raven got upset. All right, well that would shut down.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you? Next, yeah, thank you. Next to our next
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  Speaker 1: hot topic, Hannah Brown says that she only had seventy
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  Speaker 1: dollars in the bank when she became the bachelorette. She
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  Speaker 1: told us to Marry Claire magazine that she recently had
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  Speaker 1: the bank balance of seveny dollars when she agreed to
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  Speaker 1: start on season fifteen of the Bachelorette. She was obviously
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  Speaker 1: fresh off Colton season. Her career was messy. She said
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  Speaker 1: she initially wanted to be a broadcast journalist, but by
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  Speaker 1: the time but her time was always consumed by her
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  Speaker 1: Miss Alabama USA duties, and she also had an interior
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  Speaker 1: design job. She says that now she needs to hustle
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  Speaker 1: and make some money, but she's doing a lot better
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  Speaker 1: than seventy dollar as we are told that Dancing with
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  Speaker 1: the Stars gig does pay pretty well. Um. And then
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  Speaker 1: she's just moved to l A and she's excited to
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  Speaker 1: be able to move on to a new city and
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  Speaker 1: just see where life is going to take her. I
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  Speaker 1: really relate to her on that, like, wow, spirit animal
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, And I love these stories. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: who was it. I think it was Chris Pratt who
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  Speaker 1: was living out of his van in Hawaii, and it's
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  Speaker 1: like I love those rags to richest stories, like you
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  Speaker 1: deserve it, you busted your ass off, and now you're
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  Speaker 1: here where you're you know where you are and to
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  Speaker 1: p bowld to be like, you know what, here's where
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  Speaker 1: I am. Yeah, and I'm just gonna go on the
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  Speaker 1: show just see to see what come about like what happens,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously it worked. I will say maybe seventies a
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  Speaker 1: lucky number. I will also say that, like when I
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  Speaker 1: was casting on the show, was a year after I
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: graduated from grad school. I had a six month internship
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: which was non paid, and I was like job searching
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  Speaker 1: for four months. Just couldn't find a job after grad
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  Speaker 1: school from the too my own horn, the top broadcasting
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: school in the country, and I was I was very
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: much in a struggling place. I was like, I don't
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: know how I'm gonna I can't believe I'm not getting
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: a job right now. This is insane. And then casting
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: on the Bachelor and counting my lucky stars every day.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you just need to take a risk, take a leap,
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  Speaker 1: and go for it. All right, Well, we have a
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  Speaker 1: joined right now by the lovely Matt Donald. Matt how
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: many people like if you were to give a percentage,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: call you Matt McDonald. Uh yeah, it's it's a lot um.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: I'm trying if I can put in like a percentage
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  Speaker 1: probably like first time I ever meet somebody, actually, Hannah
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  Speaker 1: b h I think. I still think this is like
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I got cut so quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Uh the first like when I sing my song, I
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  Speaker 1: like introduced myself Donald Will Matt Donald whatever. She was, Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Matt McDonald, nice to meet you, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: uh no, it's Matt Donald. And I kind of I
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  Speaker 1: probably came off kind of like, no, you're wrong, my
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  Speaker 1: name's Matt Donald. But I get it all the time,
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  Speaker 1: all the time, Matt McDonald. I get like the old
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  Speaker 1: farm boy thing, like, well, you played into the farm
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  Speaker 1: boy because you showed up on a tractor, which makes
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: us all feel like you're from a farm land, are
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  Speaker 1: you not? No, I actually am so. I'm glad. This
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  Speaker 1: is great, by the way, because you have an awesome platform,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm super happy to be here. You have a
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  Speaker 1: ton of like fascination followers, so I can really start
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  Speaker 1: to like talk about some stuff that uh air that
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  Speaker 1: or like just like the perception and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: I am not a farmer. I uh am way too.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't want to like
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  Speaker 1: shoot myself down, but I just not the kind of
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  Speaker 1: guy who likes to get down and dirty. Um, so
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  Speaker 1: you're not a farmer. But when I said did you
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  Speaker 1: grow up on formerly you said, yeah, so I grew
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  Speaker 1: up in a small town in Maryland, Western Maryland called Middletown. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm from northern Virginia, are you oka No, um,
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  Speaker 1: great Falls, So I know exactly what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: It gets really rural on that side of Maryland. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we actually had a bring your tractor to school day.
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  Speaker 1: So like that's how rural I was. I went to
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  Speaker 1: James Madison and all the towns around it used to
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  Speaker 1: have bring your tractor to work okay school day. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I went to high Points, so we used to drive
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  Speaker 1: by jam U going up there. Yeah, it's like in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. It's like a PLoP of landing
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  Speaker 1: and like the football stadiums on the rights, the schools
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  Speaker 1: on the left, driving north or south crazy and it's
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  Speaker 1: split by the highway. Yeah. Yeah, do you like it there?
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  Speaker 1: They kind of compare High Point and jam You to
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  Speaker 1: each other. They say they were like similar schools. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I went to Syracuse for grad school, and I like
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  Speaker 1: to consider that my like home school because I never
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  Speaker 1: really connected a jam You. I'm glad that I went
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  Speaker 1: because it had the right um fields, like, it had
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  Speaker 1: media arts, and that's what I wanted to do in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of schools, especially back then. Back then, all
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  Speaker 1: of the years ago, which is actually a freaking long time,
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  Speaker 1: UM didn't have it. But no, I never felt connected.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't love jam You. Okay, that's pretty big. School
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  Speaker 1: was like what, Yeah, they had a huge football statum
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  Speaker 1: for sixteen. Yeah, they're trying to like get up there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I get the hype up for sure. Yeah. Anyway, so
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  Speaker 1: you did grow up in a rural area. You in
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  Speaker 1: your bachelor bio call yourself a old fashioned guy who
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  Speaker 1: loves to bring flowers to a girl in the first day.
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  Speaker 1: Do you do this for real? He does not. He
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  Speaker 1: also probably thinks that it would be creepy if that's aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: I'm totally like a believer in flowers and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: like most of the girls that I've dated in the past,
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  Speaker 1: like in a real relationship, do you like the you know,
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  Speaker 1: oh happy like one month, happy, two months, like with flowers.
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  Speaker 1: But first day it's a little aggressive. Why did you
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  Speaker 1: put that in your question in an answer? You just
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: are trying to be super I don't. I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't recall actually putting that down. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: more so like, I'm a very short person, so whatever
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  Speaker 1: I wrote down was probably like they were probably like, dude, physically,
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  Speaker 1: you're not a short person. Physically, you're you're short in
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  Speaker 1: writing and speaking, thank you. I'm about six six with
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  Speaker 1: with the right shoes on. Um. But yeah, no, I
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall saying that. But you know what, like
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  Speaker 1: that whole process has been a huge blur to me,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe I did say it just trying to I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, catch the catch the Hearts of America. I
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  Speaker 1: don't really know. It also says in your biou they
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  Speaker 1: are we're just going back very first impression of you,
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  Speaker 1: even before we saw you on the season. These bios
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  Speaker 1: are released with your photo, and I think that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people were like, oh, that's one of the
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: cuter guys in this bunch, especially based on those those
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  Speaker 1: first pictures. Oh, those first pictures were horrible. You know what,
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  Speaker 1: I have to say that it seems like the bachelorl
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  Speaker 1: or the Bachelor Pizze season. The girls look great, like
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  Speaker 1: they I don't know if they have better lighting or
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  Speaker 1: if they're just that much better looking than they don't
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  Speaker 1: like I swear, but it's like night and day. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like every year they strive would do better and
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  Speaker 1: better photos. Yeah well I remember, yeah, well do you
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  Speaker 1: remember when the photos first came out? I mean obviously
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  Speaker 1: I was like I went home after like four days
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  Speaker 1: after they say I saw everything. Uh, and everyone's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the worst Bachelor Bachelorette cast ever where
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: they get these guys like off the street blah blah blah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: And then when the show airs, you know, you start
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: seeing this might be the best Bachelor cast we've ever seen,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: like blah blah blah. It's just funny how people are
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: so quick to judge, and those pictures have been forgotten,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: like nobody remembers those pictures. I will say that girls
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: are always telling their friends he doesn't look good in pictures,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: he doesn't looked at pictures, but he's really cute in
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: real life. I just think that guys maybe don't photo off,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: especially in that environment like this point and shoot, yeah,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's very and like, at least for me,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I being in front of the cameras was I couldn't
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: even like whenever my friends would do snaps like snapchats,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I'd like get out of the way because they want
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: to be on camera. And then here I am, like
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: putting myself on broadcast and television the millions of people.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: It's just like it's been just a big just my
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: life has changed in terms of that aspect of like
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: getting more comfortable with myself and knowing what I actually
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: look like and like with the back of my head
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: looks like, and just like the little things that you
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: don't really think about when you're living your day to
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: day life and then all of a sudden you go
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: on camera. So why did you sign up for the show? Yeah,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: that's a great question. So I'm not I'm not gonna
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: sit here and be like, oh, you know, somebody through
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: my name and blah blah blah. I will fully own
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: up to it and say I I put my name
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: in the hat good. I'm a load of people are
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: honest about that. I cannot. I hate it when people
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: lie and say like, oh, yeah, you're nominated. It makes
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you sound so snoddy. Husband was nominated, but he truly,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: truly was, and I've heard great things about him. By
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the way, I'm good friends with Benz and he has
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: nothing but like the greatest things to say about Jared's
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: all thank you. But yeah, it's like everyone always says
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: a friend signed them up, Like, can I just find
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: somebody else who just said I'm gonna fill out that
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: form for the Bachelor? Yeah, I mean I grew up
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: watching it, which how you grew up watching it? Oh great, great, great,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: we got more questions. Well, I I took like a hiatus. Well,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I grew up watching like the very first season with
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: my mom and dad, uh, and then watched it to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: like high school. And then it wasn't cool to watch
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in high school, so I kind of,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you know, stayed away from it for a little bit.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: And then college definitely wasn't cool. I was in like
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: a fraternity and stuff. There's no way I could never
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: let anyone know I was watching that show, So I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: didn't watch too much of it during college. But when
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I got back after school, Uh, you know, you you're
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh wow, these people are actually a lot
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: more relatable, Like they're not in college, they're human beings.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: They struggle with dating in the real world, like just
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: like how I was or still am. Um. So I've
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: kind of tuned back into it, and then these last
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: couple of seasons, I've really started to to stay close.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I think it was like Rachel Lyndzy season I started
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: to tune in, or actually Joejoe season, and uh was
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: when I really started to kind of tune back in.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So did you um watch this with your mom and
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: bond over it over time? Yeah? I mean it was
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: like our Monday night thing, right, we all watch it together.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Like my mom never watches TV, but like the whole
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: family knows, like from eight to ten on Monday nights,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna watch The Bachelor of the Batcheret. And
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: that's like for my mom, and it was a good
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: way for us to kind of come together and and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: watch and you know kind of just like laugh and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it was it's it was kind of
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: like going onto the show. It's kind of it was.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: It was bad being such a fan because I realized
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: such a like the novelty of it. So like you
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: know the entrance. Oh yeah, like how it's like the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: biggest and it doesn't help. My producer was like, you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: realize this is like the most iconic uh night of
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: reality television history. And I'm like yeah, as I'm sitting
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: on the track and like thanks, man. There is something
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: crazy about when those gates open the wet driveway and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the man channel it up. It's the most surreal thing
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: that could ever happen to a Bachelor fan. It really is.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So now I feel really bad that you were such
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: a fan and it was something that you bonded with
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: your mom over and then you get eliminated night one,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: and you know how sucky it is to get elimitated
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Night one's it was. I don't cry ever, and I'm
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: not like trying to, you know, sound like a big
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: mancho man, I'm just not that. I just emotionally, I'm
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: just not I just don't get to that point very often.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I almost cried that night. It's like it's just like
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: you never uh you just wonder what's wrong with you
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and why you suck at dating? And you know, I'm
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: not for that. I know, Dean right, Jared okay, um,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but yeah it sucked. I I knew going into it
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that I'm like not Mr Smooth and I'm not the
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: one who's going to be like, you know, Mac Daddy Swagger,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like have all the right lines. So it sucks, I mean,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: but I'm super grateful for everything that happened. I don't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: think I don't think I would have made it very
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: far anyway, just just from my personality, I'm kind of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: more reserved. Do you feel like you and Hannah did
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: have chemistry that night or was pretty obvious that night
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, we're not We're not going to connect. Yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I I was actually really I saw she did, like
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: some sort of interview or something where she was talking
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: about how like she thought it was bs that everyone
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, we're super happy that you were picked
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: for the batcherette, like all the guys saying that to her.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I personally was like really really rooting for her to
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: be picked because she was she was from Alabama. I
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: actually my dad's side, I was born in Alabama. My
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: dad's side grew up in Alabama. So like, I'm a
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: huge Crimson Tide fan. Role time, say, did you roll
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: tied with her the first night? Now? Actually I did.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I did in our conversation. Um, but I I do.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I'm glad, I'm cognisant enough to I think I know
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the reason why, uh she did boot me, And I
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: think it's just because, like our one on one conversation,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I was so nervous, uh that I ended up just
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: talking about myself all the time. Yeah. So like when
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I walked away, I remember like being like, all right,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: where did I gather from Hannah? Like what what about her?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, damn, Like I literally just
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: talked the whole time, and like she's probably so tired
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of like everybody talking her ear off. So I think
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: that had one big reason to do with it. And
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: then the song probably didn't hit it off. But it's right,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it's all good. I got to go to Paradise, which
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: is awesome. I think everybody loved the song watching it.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Why would you think that Hannah wouldn't be into the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: song singing old Matt Donald a farm that was shoot
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: now I'm Johnna blank. Uh oh no, I'm at Donald
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm so nervous. I hope I catch your eyes. Stop.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It's perfect with the bro bro here and a bro bro.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: They're here bro there, bro everywhere. Bro bro, I would
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: have given you a rose right there. You would have
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: been my first impression rose. Thank you. Yeah, it was,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I know, it was. I'm glad, I'm I'm so glad.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I did you know? The way I saw is I
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: had to be memorable, right, Like, you have to go
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: you have to go in there, and you can't just
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: be another guy who just like shakes their hand or
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: gives gives her a hug and says your name and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: then walks in the mansion. So I was like, you
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: know what, I gotta do something. And of course she
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: couldn't even she didn't get my name right. She thought
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: it was Matt McDonald. But yeah, well understandable. Yeah, she
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: even knew your last sort of name. She doesn't know
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: anybody else's last sort of name. Did it feel John
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Paul Jones Actually that's knew his entire name. Well, very
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: very memorable of John Paul Jones. All right, you guys
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: are actually tied for my first impression because said that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what's funny worshiping you? You
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: know what's funny is that there was so obviously that episode,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: it kind of came down to, like me and John
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Paul Jones like you know how they like kind of
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: hype it up to make it look like it's a
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: showdown between two people and who's gonna get the really
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: get down to because you guys spoiler alert, the Rose
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: ceremonies definitely edited sometimes to look like people don't have
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: roses or do have roses, but like the final two
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: standing there aren't always the final two that we're standing there. Yeah,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I actually don't know, because like I never got it
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: was so early on, like we don't really get like
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a good idea of like who she made a connection with,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: who she didn't. I think it was obviously like Luke
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Obviously Luke p had a really great connection with her
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: because he got the first impression rows. But other than that,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: like you don't see the conversations, you don't see who
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: she's talking to and stuff like that. So it's kind
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: of hard to say, um, but if you watch it back,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: it was it was like kind of like between me
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: and John Paul Jones, And looking back, it's it's so
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: funny because everyone was like, why the hell did she
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: picked John Paul Jones, Like John Jingle Heimer Schmidt blah
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: blah blah. Really yeah, I remember getting a lot of tweets,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: like seeing a lot of tweets and me tagged in it,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: and now look at John Paul Jones, He's like the
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: star of Like it would have been the biggest mistake
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: in the world if they would have not picked John
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Paul Jones. I think she should have kept you both around.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I think that thanks, Yeah, she should have eliminated somebody else.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: How good did it feel, though, to see that first
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: night when it aired, how many people were just flabbergasted
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: that she didn't pick you. You were the new grocery storege.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not okay, I can't give you that much, but
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: like it was, it was similar. Uh, yeah, it was.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I was so nervous um before that night that that was. Yeah,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that was tough because you don't you think you're gonna
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: get really embarrassed, and like, you know, going home the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: first night on like a dating dating show is never cool,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I guess or air quotes cool. Um. I The response
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: was very overwhelming. It was very very sweet. Everyone was
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: incredibly supportive. You know. I just remember having so much
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: anxiety because like it's very overwhelming, like it it was,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: it was incredibly overwhelming, and you just don't really know
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: how to anticipate it. So it was it was really sweet.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Everyone everyone was incredible. How did your mom feel when
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you were living at night? One? You know what's funny,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I you know, obviously when you go you don't have
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: your phone. I got back that Sunday, um and texting
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: my I have like a group of text with my
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: family and I'm like, yeah, I'm back. They're like, are
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you serious you're back already. I'm like, yeah, I got
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: eliminated and one They're like, oh, we still love you,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So everyone's it's been great. So everyone's
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: been cool. How was your mom when you got that
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: call that you would finally you made final casting? You know?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I actually, uh, I didn't tell my family. Um, I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: didn't tell anybody just because you don't like when you're yeah,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: well when you're casting for you don't think there's actually
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: a chance. I at least for me personally, I didn't
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: think there was actually a chance that was gonna happen
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: until I got the phone call, and so I didn't
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: want to tell people so they could be like, hey, like,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: what's what's the status? You know what I mean? UM,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: So I didn't tell them until like I was like, hey, guys,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: just a it's just an fy I. I just got
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: offered to go on on the Bacherette. And of course,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: like they're like, you're joking, I'm like, yeah, no, I'm serious. Souh.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: That's kind of how it happened. I mean, it was
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: it was cool. Did you joke about it with your
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: mom like throughout life, being like maybe one day I'll
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: be on the Bachelorette that's what we did? Uh No,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: not really. You know, what was one show that I
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: used to always like want to go on and I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: was very vocal with my parents about it was fear Factor,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Like back in the day, Oh well, we hear that
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you are terrified of spiders, So what I guess you
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: would just be out of the running for you know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you would just drop the money, no thank you if
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you were trapped in a cave in spiders. It's more
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: so it's more so like snakes. I can't then why
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: in your bio from that bio is very inaccurate saw
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the salsa dancing too. I don't. I don't honestly, it
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: must have been delirious when I was talking about all
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: this stuff, because I I kind of know how to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: salsa dance, but like not not well enough to say,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: like I'm doing it at the club every weekend. Okay,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: let's clarify to our audience where they come up with
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: this bachelor bio. So you're sitting in the hotel room
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: when it's top fifty casting, so they're going to eliminate
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: ish people from this group, but everybody needs to fill
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: out the question answer and it's thirty pages. I was
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: just gonna thirty pages, and you're filling out paperwork. You're
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: here for like thirty six hours in a hotel and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you're filling out paperwork for I'm not even kidding you,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: maybe eight hours, and you at the end of it,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you don't even know how to respond to some of
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: these questions, so you're just kind of coming up with
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: whatever silly thing pops up in your head. So you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: must have been like, I would love to learn to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: solve the dance, but I can't imagine I'd be good
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: at it. Honestly, A lot of the answers are just
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: me trying to get through it, you know, like when
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: you take a test and you're kind of just I mean,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: at least for me, I've never been book smarts, But
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: like when you take a test and it's getting to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the end and you know you failed, it's you're like,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you know what, screw it, I'm just gonna circle it in. Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: just circle it in. And that's and that's pretty much
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like I was just trying to get through that. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: then like, do you remember that scant on that personality test?
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I did that right after you know
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: that you did? You have? You didn't have to read
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: do it for Paradise? Did you? Oh gosh? Now I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: had to redo it for I think my second season
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: in Paradise and maybe Winter Games too, because it had
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: gone over a certain amount of time, and because the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: show is supposed to, you know, transform you for better
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: for worse. It really um, you can become a more
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: confident person or a less confident person, or like a
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: more egotistical person or a less egotistical person, all that stuff.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: So that's why you had to take it. I had
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to take it multiple time. Oh my gosh, I like
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: that would deter me from wanting to go to Paradise. Like,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: are you guys serious? We really have to fill this
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: out again? I probably just like spell out something with
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: the bubbles. If your bio also says something that I'm
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: sure that you were also delirious when you said I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: love you love Hannah and you haven't even bet her yet. Yeah. Wow,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: what a great, What a great starts my batchel right
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: career right there, that whole bio. I man, you've got
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it right there, locked and loaded. Hut Um. Yeah, I
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: don't know why I said that. I was just really
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: excited that Hannah. Hannah was gonna be the bat rat.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: She was definitely the one I wanted. Uh And I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: can honestly say that I know, I know she might
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: not have thought that way about a lot of the
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: guys saying that, but like, I was really pumped to
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that that Hannah view was going to be the bad rat.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. You're living in Santa Monica. How long have
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you lived in Santa Monica? So I've lived there for
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: two weeks now, only two weeks. I just moved down
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: here from where uh so, I grew up on the
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: East Coast, but I lived in San Jose for about
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: three and a half years. So I was doing a
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: medical sales shop, selling placentas and umbilical cords. Um, can
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: you explain it more. Yeah, of course you're selling other
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: people's obviously because it's very good for like stem cell
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: research and health. Right yeah, yeah, so real, real quick.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I know you're probably like actually super interesting, surprisingly interesting.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: So I got a lot of d MS about this. UM.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I don't work for the company anymore. And it's not
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it, fired or anything. Everyone thinks I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: got fired, But I just moving down here. I just
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: want a little bit of change of pace. UM. But
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I so, I am not going to like abortion critics
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: or like planned parenthoods to get placenta's. It's definitely not
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm not going to like the OBI
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: clinic to grab placentas. Uh. There's hospitals throughout the country
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: that UM have consenting moms, healthy moms, healthy babies that
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: are doing C sections, and they'll donate their tissue, their
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: placental tissue and um biblical tissue, which is rich in
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: what So it's rich in stem cells, growth factors, like
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: different proteins, in collagen, which is often used for what
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: like complex wounds, complex burns. They're using it for like
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: everything anything to reduce inflammation scar tissue. Uh, it's basically
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: what it's indicated for don't they normally ask the mom
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: if she wants to keep it for herself because it
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: can be really good. Yeah, to like take in pill form.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know much. I don't know about I know
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: that there are are uh you know people out there
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: that do that. I don't know much about that, like
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: consuming it, like I would imagine your body breaks it down,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: but I don't really know. Um, but uh yeah, no,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it's it's a there's a lot of research coming out
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: on on placental tissue and its benefits and stuff, and
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I was kind of on the breaking edge of that,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and uh, it was. It was a really great experience
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: and like seeing a lot of patients being healths. It's
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: just it was it's I should have awarded that better.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: That conversation with Tammia. No, nothing sounded cool about Yeah,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I self placentas and umbilical cords. I should have should
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: have been a little doesn't sound I mean it sounds interesting. Yeah,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: well I will say it was. It's all like planned,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: healthy moms, healthy babies, happy patients. At the end of
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: the day, it's really all that matters. There's something about
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: your life we haven't covered yet, and that is the
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: fact that you grew up um with a family who
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: your your brother and your parents are both deaf, and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you grew up speaking sign language to them. You're the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: only one who can hear in your family. My sister too.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting, So is it hereditary? You know what? I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: get asked this all the time, and I I don't.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I really don't know. I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: don't think the chances of me if I were to
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: like get married and have kids with a hearing person,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I think the chances are really low with me having
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: a death feld. Uh. I honestly don't know. How did
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: your parents meet? So they met at Gardner Webb, which
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: is a school in North Carolina. They have like a
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: death program there. Uh so that's kind of how they
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: met in college. That's sweet. So how was your how
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: is your life different in a way that like people
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: out here listening would be like, oh wow, that is
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: a significantly different lifestyle growing up with parents like that. Yeah,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's hard. I get asked that a lot,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of hard because I don't have anything
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to compare it off. But I didn't have hearing parents
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: growing up. But I will say, I did, and this
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: is gonna sound horrible, but I did have the luxury
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you of listening to like vulgar music at a much
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: younger age. Uh. And I mean that that I was
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: like the guy on the bus in fourth grade were
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: like the Walkman and like the new fifty cent like
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: get Rich died trying CD the explicit version, so like
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: everyone would sit around and we'd be like sharing a
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: little headphones. But other than that, like, I had a
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: very awesome I mean, I had a very good childhood.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: My parents were very good to me um growing up.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's it's not. It really is not. Everyone
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: thinks it's like this very different lifestyle and it's not
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: at all. It's you know, the only differences that we
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: communicate via sign language, not you know, speaking, was sign
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: language your first language. Uh, they kind of went hand
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: in hand. Sign language is definitely like for like some
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: of the easy things like you know, like milk and
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: like more and food and stuff like that when I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: couldn't actually talk, sign language is a go too. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I actually had my grandma lived with my parents for
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the first couple of years, and well she didn't live
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: with us, but she lived close by and she would
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: kind of associate uh words with signs, so I kind
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: of learned them side by side. Yeah. Alright, well, Matt,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: we are going to dive into a little bit of
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: game time right now. I love games. We have two
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: games for you. One is more just like a speed
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: round of questions, which is what we're going to start with.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, our speed rounds aren't necessarily speedy.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I like to use it as a way of just
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: getting to know you better through like quick bullet point questions.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: But some of them are, you know, really quick? Would
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: you rather we'll start with fun ones, Prince or Michael
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Jackson musically? Oh, Michael Jackson, Duncan or Starbucks? Oh man,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: do you really? I don't want to get in the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: weeds of this too much. He has a Starbucks here,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: but he is an East Coast guy. Yeah. So I
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I've been doing this this I have. I always talked
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: about this, and I hate myself for talking about it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I've been doing like the Keto jack it. So I said, yeah, exactly,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: open up a candle worms here. Uh So, Duncan doesn't
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: have very Keto friendly like they're packed with sugar. All
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: of their ice drinks, but damn they're good taste wise,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: taste wise, duncan they just build a duncan right by
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: my parents place back in Maryland, And I'm like, super
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: bombs because I would have loved that as a kid
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: growing up. You made the right decision. Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: or Jimmy Fallon. Oh man, that's a tough one. Uh,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon if he has those lips in competitions? Okay,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: do you use a Mac or PC computer? Mac? For sure?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Who is your celebrity crush? Um? That's tough. You can
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: give multiple options. I've always she's a little I shouldn't
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: say older, that's kind of mean, but she is a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: little older like Sophia Ga. I think her, I think
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: her personality. You don't have to even say she's a
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: little older, because she's timeless. She is she and I
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: love her personality, at least on on her family. She
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: she's just like so so energetic, and I mean, obviously
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: it's very attractive too. Fantastic answer. Yeah, what was her
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: best Halloween costume? As we are in October, best Halloween costume?
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: My my good friend and I in college made one
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: of those like roller coaster. Uh, costumes were like we
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: had like fake legs dangling, so like we'd walk around
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: and we like raise our hands up in the air
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: and people loved it so cool. It was fun. That's cool.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: U do you now smiles and pictures because of lessons?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I know, I that's so funny. No, I don't. I don't.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: That was beyond me. I keep that to the people
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: who do it professionally. I can't do it. We thought
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: that you were afraid of spiders, so I did write
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: down a spider hole or four million dollars. So would
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: you sleep in a spider and snake whole for twenty
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: four hours? Will say? For a million dollars? Oh? Man,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Well it depends because are the are the snakes and
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: spiders venomous? Because I might not make it through those
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours? Well, then I could do it for
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a million dollars. If I knew I was not going
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to walk out of their dead, well I wouldn't be walking.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: But if I if I knew I was gonna die,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: then yeah, for sure, I would do it. I do
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: it for five dollars. Okay, I'm great, You're brave. Yeah,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that's scared. No, I mean Money's money, money talks, right.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Who's your best friend from your Bachelor experience? Oh? Man, Um, well,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Luke Stone is about to move in your Yeah, you
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: guys are gonna be roommates. Yeah, we're gonna be roommates
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: here shortly, so get a lot of fun Co sponsored ads.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Luke. Luke's awesome. I've become good friends with
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Connor j Connor Jenkins, He's awesome. Um, a lot of
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the guys from my season on Paradise. It's like John,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Paul Jones, Dylan Mike. Um. Yeah, everyone's super cool. It's
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: hard to I made it. I was only there for
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the first night. It's like, um on the batcherette, So
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: it's not like I got to make really strong connections.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: How are you friends with Benz And did he help
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: you get on the Bachelor? No, he didn't help. He
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: actually reached out. He's all he's such a good dude. Uh.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: He reached out to me after the batcherette and just
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, let's like, let's meet up where
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I'm in San Jose. You're in San Jose. Yes, we
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: met up, And I mean obviously like it's such a
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: unique as you know, it's such a unique experience that
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: like you can only share with the select amount of people. So, like,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I had tons of questions. I was like, man, do
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: you get like anxious about this, like posting pictures, doing
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: selfies blah blah blah. And he's like, yes, but it's
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: gonna go away, just give it time. Uh. And then
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: he's always like, it's never as bad as it seems.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: It's never as good as it seems. He's just he's
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: he's a plethora of really good information because he's kind
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: of been through it all. He's very sweet man, he is,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm super happy for him and his fiancee, Stacy.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: She's she's really cool too. On the show, you came
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: across very innocent, very off shucks. Oh man, I don't
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: know if my mom's could be okay seeing this. You
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: don't come across like that in real life. Why do
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: you think you came across like that? Yeah? Ben, this
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: is when Ben and Sydney were here. I don't know
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: where you were. You were somewhere. Ben and Sydney were
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: here in studio. Yeah, when they I don't know. If
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you're on vacation, you're on your Yeah, that's right. How
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: was that, by the way, that was amazing. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn, it looks like every day do you. Yeah,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: now you're sitting here with me. Sorry, this is pretty
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: great too. To call this a job is blood. Yeah,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: this is a pretty cool gig you got going on.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: But um yeah. So the best way to describe it
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: imagine I'm not a baseball so I'm in at butcher this,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: but like imagine playing baseball for like a farm league
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: team and then getting thrown into the World Series and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: you have to pitch. Like I literally had zero camera
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: time on the bacherette, like probably like fifteen minutes of
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: being actually on camera, and then getting thrown into an
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: environment where everyone's super everyone was on camera for months, right,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: and they're super comfortable, and some of them have been
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: in Paradise for over a month or for a couple
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: of weeks or whatever it was, and you know, like
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the whole Sydney Kissing Sydney thing. Like I was just
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like I was literally there for not even ten hours,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: not like two hours, and I'm getting I'm like being
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: prompted on doing something that's typically very private in my
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: life and doing it on on like a national stage,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: and again, being such a fan of the show, I
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: know the novelty of making out on camera and this
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and that, so that was running through my head and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I used like, my mom is like a vice, right,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't know what my mom is
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: gonna think, really, but in my head, I'm like, dude,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just really really camera try right now, and I do,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and I just don't feel comfortable like doing this right
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: at this moment. And then, of course, you know, fast
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: forward to Britanize date, I'm like sucking face with her
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and it's it's just, uh, if I could do it
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: all over again. I know it's not that big of
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a deal, but you have a point there. Mostly for
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: most contestants, you get warmed up on the bat flarette.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: You probably kissed the Bachelorette. You're there for a couple
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: of weeks, but you weren't even there for twelve hours.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: And then you go into Paradise and you're expected to
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: kiss somebody on the first date, but that would never
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't happen on the On the Bachelorette, you get
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: warmed up, you get to know them a little bit
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: more before you go into totally totally. Yeah. Usually, I
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: mean like there's only like I don't know how many
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: people Hannah, Hannah, how many? How many the guys Handa
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: kissed on the first night, but it was only like
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: two or three of them, Like yeah, and like that's
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: like courageous, that's super courageous. So like it's kind of
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: it was my first night really in Paradise and like
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I it was it was just being
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: super nervous and camera shy, and I definitely started a
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: warm up as the days went by and got more
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and more comfortable on camera. Yeah. Yeah, you guys all
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: saw and uh, the whole mom thing I've just completely
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: just kept using as advice. I mean, I love my mom,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: but like it was she wouldn't really care. No, you
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: know what's funny, Like after all the episode, she's like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you're so funny, like that you you cracked me up,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But it was never like why did
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: you do this? Why did you do that? And it's
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: like I knew it, but like at the same time,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: it's just it was an easy way for me to
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: kind of cop out of doing something that wasn't comfortable
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: doing right away. I was gonna say, were you just
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: not did you maybe not want to kiss her? No?
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I did, I definitely did. I mean no, it was
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: it was a really fun date and like I really
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: enjoyed myself and Sydney was awesome. I just, uh, it's
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just very awkward, um, and I got put in
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: a very uncomfortable awkward situation. If I would have kissed her,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like it would have been super awkward. But
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: you ended up kissing her. Yeah, it did good. Yeah,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: it's a huge theatrics about it. It It was great. If
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: your mom had your way, who would she wanted you
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to be with in Paradise? Yeah, it was Sydney for sure.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: My dad. My dad texted me after the episode. He's like,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you should have picked Sydney. I'm like, why was that?
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you get to see everything on TV, right,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And like Sydney's great. She's super sweet. She she like
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: narrated the whole season. She never really talked bad about anybody,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: and she was just very sweet and very kind um
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and like you really got to see her personality as
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: as the the show developed, whereas with Brie, she came
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: in late like myself, so like we're both kind of
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like you didn't have a ton of personelity or a
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: ton of like we didn't have a ton of character
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: building up to it. So my parents saw Sidney all
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: all beginning of the season, and they're like, man, she's
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: really great what she is. And they saw her more
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: on Colton season two, probably right, exactly exactly, so I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: understood why where they were coming from. But like you all,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: like there were conversations that Brie and I had that
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: weren't shown on TV, right, And that's just the nature
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: of the beast. They can't film everything and show everything.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: So now you're living in Santa Monica and Brie and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Sidney both live here in the l A. Area, would
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you rekindle with either one of them? Yeah, I knew
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: this was gonna get asked. I I'm just super fortunate
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: that they both don't hate me. I'm actually friends with
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: both of them, um, and I'm super super thankful for that.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: So like as of right now, like that's kind of
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm okay with the position I'm in where we're
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: just both like all three of us are cool and
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: friends and they don't hate me because I look like
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: such an ass on television. Might want to say that.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: By the way, bad words okay, you can say Okay,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I can't say the other bad words. We're pretty okay. Well,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: my mom to hear. What are the top three requirements
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that you look for in a girl. Yeah, confidence is
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: definitely one of them. Um, Ambition, I think that's really
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: sexy of a woman. Um. Let's see ambition comments. Oh,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: and just being passionate about everything they do. Um, never
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: never doing something that they're like half assing something. I
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: said it again. That feels good as ass Like that's enough.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Bleep bleep, bleep bleep. All right, now we're gonna play
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: plead the fifth. Are you familiar with Andy Cohen's plea
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the fifth? Okay, so I have a set of questions
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: for you. They are more challenging, they're more salacious. Salacious, man,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. Causing drama, alright, cool,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: salacious to learn that today. Now you don't know how
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: many questions I have here on my list. But you
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: only have one time to plead the fifth, which means
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: that you only have one question. All right, let's do it,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: all right. The first question, would Demi and Christian have
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: gotten engaged this summer if they hadn't gone on Bachelor
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: in Paradise. No, I don't think so that's a lot
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: of time they spent together. You gotta think like you're
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: literally living with somebody in paradise and you're put in
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: very romantic situations, so it's like a lot easier to
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: expedite relationships. Fantastic answer, which Bachelor in Paradise? Can we
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: get some music? Can we get some get some chromatic music?
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Sakaston Or is like, we know you're like a good
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: sax love a good sack man. Johnath blank on his name,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: who's the famous saxophonist. I was gonna say, Katy Rodgers. N.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the correct sound effect for
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: this moment. Yeah, this isn't like a romantic but I
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: would say I think that the saxophone is the least utilized.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: It's just it's so underrated. I love like house music
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and house music with like a good sacks man. I
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: don't know if I ever heard sacks with house music,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: But there's some good song. There's some good like tropical
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: house with some sacks and bumps. But we must get
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: to the question now that this music is bumping, which
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise. Engaged couple from your season is at
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: least likely to make it to the altar. Oh oh man,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: the so there's three. There's three rights Dylan and Hannah,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Demi and Christian and Chris and Katie. I mean maybe
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Chris and Cage is because of the stuff that went
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: down on the reunion. I mean, they that's what we've
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: seen so far, but obviously I'm hoping for the best
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: for both of them. Next question, Yeah, I like it.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I like it. Oh, I need a massage. This is
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: like massage music right here. Who from your season needs
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: what we'll call a humbling experience? A humbling experience? Um,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it has to be Luke p
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I think he. I think he's actually done a great
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: job of just from social media, and I hate that
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like judging somebody's character off of social media. But
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: it seems like he's doing good for like the community,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and I think he just wants to get away from
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: the spotlight. Uh So, I think he has humbled after
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: the show. Again, I didn't really get to know the dude.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I saw what you guys saw on TV. So just
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: from that perspective, it seems like he's he's mellowed out
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: and become a little more humble and stuff like that.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: That question was too easy? Who That question was too easy?
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: From your Bachelor in Paradise season needs a humbling experience, Oh,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise season, that needs a humbling experience. I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: actually don't know, so I'm gonna plead the fitch just
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't really know. Nobody seemed really
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: fool of themselves that I came in. Is there something
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to say? I mean, I was hoping you
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: would just give us some dirt. I honestly, everyone's super cool.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Everyone was really I can't I can't really think of
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: anybody you need to like, simmer down. I came in late, though,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't get to like. I didn't get to know
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: everybody that. You're a very kind guy. You pleaded to fight. Now,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I bet they get way harder. Now you have one
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Sydney pick. Now you only have Okay, Brier Sydney pick
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: right now. I mean I probably picked Sydney. I've hung
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: out with her more after the show. We've hung out
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: with Sydney after the show. We've not kissed. I literally
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: put her furniture together earlier this week. That's so sweet. Yeah,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: we're cool. I felt like I had to make it
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: up to because I felt like such an ass on.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I just it was tough. Uh yeah, I just feel
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: like I oweer one big time because I did. I
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: did make you know, which just wasn't nice. The whole situation.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't I knew, just like, how do you come
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: out of that looking like a hero? Right? You can't?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Like they're I don't know. Well, what's really weird for
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: me is that they have you go through that rose
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: ceremony where you pick somebody and then the next morning
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, no breakup. Yeah, you know, they're like,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: if you are not in the status of possibly getting
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: then you must leave. Important conversations have already been having,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Like I just gave my rose to breathe. What. I
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: don't understand why that rose ceremony exists. It's like the
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: third or fourth season that happens. I you to be
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: honest with you. I don't know why anybody who comes
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: in with like a couple of days left is expected
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: to like maintaining relationship. You know, I talked to Sydney.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: This is like one of the things we talked about
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: when I was fixing her furniture. Uh, I asked her.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, if you know, had I
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: picked you like that next morning, do you think like
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to leave anyway? Yeah? And she was like,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Matt, like we both weren't
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: ready for like the fantasy suites. We just we're just
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: getting to know each other. So like it would have,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: it would have ended the same way like Brie and
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I ended. I mean, obviously, I like to think I
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been called shallow and like an ass. Uh,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: it would have. There was no winning coming out of that.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Why were you called shallow? Well? I wasn't called chill.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I was portrayed a shallow um, which sucked. It wasn't
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: a good look. I looked like such an ass when
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I'll be the first one to admit it, why do
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: you think you look like such an ask because you
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: picked Bree over Sydney and you had seem to have
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: had more of a relationship with Sydney. Uh. Yeah, that's
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: what what it looked like for sure. And obviously I
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: dropped the supermodel bomb like five thousands, Like dude, Matt.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I remember watching You'd be like, oh my gosh, Matt,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: just stop, just stop talking the same thing with the
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: mom bit, like, uh, you just get annoyed with yourself
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: on television, Like I just got so annoyed, like cringed
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: watching myself. Did Sydney reach out to you to ask
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: for help with the with the furniture? Uh, that's a
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: great question. So I'm good friends with Kirpa, who's her roommate.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Kurba and I have spent a lot of time together.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: We've done some trips and stuff together. But have you
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: kissed Kurba? No, we haven't kiss That's funny. She Uh,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: she has drawn on my socks though. She has this
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: weird like Kurk Puppets thing. We having kids, but she
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: has she has drawn on my socks. It's gone to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: that level. Um, I think I actually have one right now,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: draws like Smiley faces on him. She she does this
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Kurk Puppets thing. I don't know why I'm plugging it
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: right now. Is it on Instagram she has? I don't
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: know she has this thing on Instagram? She used, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, that's as far as let's let's Curnaiture. Yeah,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: so Kirpo was like, hey, we need do you have
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: power drills and this and that. I'm like, man, they
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: think I have power drills, Like this is awesome. So
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: of course, like Amazon power drills to my house the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: next day, so I bring over some drills and all
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: this stuff. Uh and yeah, I mean, well it was
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: a cool chance to hang out with Sydney after the show, like,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: and Kirpa was just like, yeah, come over and help
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: us build, Like Sydney us to put her bed frame together,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and it'll be a good chance for us to all
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: hang out. And I was like, yeah, of course. So um,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I mean they're only like twenty minutes away from me.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: So it's I'm like, so again, so fortunate that like
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I can still be friends with Sydney after everything that happened.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: She's she's awesome. Um So I'm just very thankful of
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: how everything's played out. Very nice. Now, you do have
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: one more question left on my list? Can't plead the thing?
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: You can't plead the fifth, so do we even need
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: you do? Let the allergy of the music. It's like
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings. Does Blake wear lips? And it
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: I am going to defend Blake right now. And I
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: so I used to work with a lot of pediatrist
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: foot doctors with my last job, So orthotics they're naturally
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: they naturally make you taller. So I I don't know
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: his his foot situation, like if he needs it or not,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: but they orthotics do make your heels like stand out
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: of your shoes because it gives you more arch. So
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that's what it was to give him like
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: two inches. I mean, like I had a parent, I
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: hated wearing him because my heel felt like I felt
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: like I was gonna walk out of my shoes because
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: they were they were I stopped wearing him. But in
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: his defense, I'm pretty sure he has like foot orthotics
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: um that he wears to to like help his foot,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: like help his foot structure. Am I making this up?
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Was this not on the show and just a rumor
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: that was on the show, guys, But like apparently there
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: was a deleted scene as pretty much the entire thing
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: because I can only show you an hour and forty
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: minutes an episode. But there was a rumor that Blake
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: wore lifts and his shoes to make him taller, that
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: he's like really like six foot and then he makes
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: himself like six two or three. Anyway, that's it. And
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: poor Blake. No, we all think Blake is He's a
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: good dude, very lovely man. He's very he's very I
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: feel I reached out to him a lot after the show,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: actually because he got wrecked just on social media and
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I just had to talk to him about it and
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: made some screw ups. But isn't a bad person. Yeah, exactly.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: We all do. Unfortunately some of us do it on
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: national television. All right, Well, Matt Donald, it's been a pleasure. Yeah,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: thanks for having me so much. Is there anything that
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: you would like to plug or anything that you would
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: that you would like to get off your chest given
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: the platform? Uh? No, not really. I will say one thing.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I love you actually, I think you're awesome and I
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: love the show. I am so bummed that Ben's not
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: here though, because I know I have not been able
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: to meet Ben and I have, like I doubt he
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: remembers this, but I have a funny story about the
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: first time I, like air quotes, met Ben um So
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: on our cast in the finals weekend when we had
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: to do all those bubble sheets and all that stuff.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: One of the One of the things that you remember
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: is like you walk in, all the producers are sitting
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: in there, so there's like twenty thirty of them. So
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I walk in and like I'm seeing the back of
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: everyone's heads, right, and I see a side profile of Todd,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: who is one of our very favorites. Yes, he said,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: one of the producers. He's he if you guys remember
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Goose and Crystal's wedding, He's the one with the stage
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: like walking around him. Uh. So I walked by Todd
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: really quickly. I'm super nervous. I'm like ho, like I
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: was gonna say the S word. Oh crap, Like, uh,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Ben Higgins, what's up, dude? I walked by. I sit
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: down in the chair that's in front of everyone, and
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I look at him and I'm like a hard pause,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: and we go, oh god, you're you're not Ben Higgins.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Everyone starts dying. So I'm sitting there like they're interviewing me,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: and then Megan Firestone comes up to me and she
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: holds her phone ups on my face and it's Ben
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Higgins on FaceTime and I'm like, no way, it's like
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: a huge fan. I was like, did they do that?
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: After you had this weird blunder with Todd. Yeah, that's
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: where like, let's get exactly and it was just like
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I doubt he remembers. Man, he probably gets a thousand
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: facetimes a day, but he remembers that. If it was
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: in the casting room, it was. Yeah. I was just like,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Ben Higgins, I'm like, dude, what's up?
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: And like, I think the producers could kind of see
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: that the star struck news come out of me and
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, this is gonna be great for television
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: when they get guys who are fans of guilty pleasure
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: for sure. All right, well, you guys can follow old
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Matt Donaldo on Instagram. Yeah, thanks and come back anytime.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: We really enjoyed having you. Yeah. Thanks, Actually, thank you guys.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: You all right by Yeah. Normally it's been talking about
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• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I want to tell you why I love my sleep number.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: It warms my feet. Yes, there's a contraption that warms
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: my cold feet before I fall asleep, and then Jared
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: and I can set the bed comfort levels to whatever
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: we perf I like a little bit softer. He likes
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit harder. I like to recline, you know,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: put my head up a bit while I sleep so
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: that my face is a little less puffy the next morning.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: He doesn't care about that. Plus he looks perfect all
• 59:11
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• 59:15
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  Speaker 1: number dot com. Slash Ben. We got two quick emails.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: One is from Madison. She says, I have an idea.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Can you guys do an in depth with Jessica Clark
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: that would be Ben's girlfriend. I would say that's totally
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: up to Ben, and he's not here to answer that question,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: but I understand why you guys would want to get
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: to know Jessica, this leading lady in Ben's life there
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: in Huns right now together and their Instagram stories are
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: so cute. I have to say her in Vegas, she
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: was so cute. Oh, she's so cute, so cute. They're
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: very in love. They're so in love. There was a
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: point where he said, I was, um, you guys were
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: talking about someone where he had cried, Like he said,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I cried this morning, and she was literally across the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: room and she was like, but it was for a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: good reason, babe, Like she's just like so supportive anything
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: you feel. She's like, you're doing great, sweetie, like you know, yes,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: we have an email from Kelly. She says she's dying
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: to know if the leads have any say in the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: travel locations their season goes to. Are they asked about
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: dream travel cities before filming begins, No, they are not.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: All these cities places are booked. Yeah, they're booked before
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: they they they're even chosen to be the lead. Mind blown?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Well did you? It seems kind of like I feel
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: like you could actually learn a lot about a person.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: But like I've always been like, wow, I respect they
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: didn't do the beach scene right off the bat. They
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: went to Switzerland. They're all in layers, wearing jackets, scarves, hats, coats,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: can't see their faces. I respect that person, but now
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: I don't even the cities and dates are very planned
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: pretty much before the person has chosen. Wow. Yeah, alright, Well, guys,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: we have a couple of Thank You Crispy Cremes Halloween
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: A Monster Batch of donuts Hypno Henry the Cake Batter Monster.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: That's the name of a donut, guys. It is a
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: donut filled with cake batter, dipped in yellow icing and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: orange sanding. Sugar and it's got an mesmerizing icing swirrel.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: I know you can't see it right here, but it
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: is perfectly ghouling for Halloween. It's super cute and absolutely delicious.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: If you want to bring some festive goodies to your
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: office or a party, definitely head over to Crispy Cream
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: and you can make this cute little layout that I'm
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: looking right here. It makes it look like you, like
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: put some thought into the gift or the food that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: you brought over that day. Also almost famous live you guys.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: You can get Ben and myself at the Palace of
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Fine Arts in San Francisco on Saturday, January eleventh at
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: ticket master dot com or ape Concerts dot com January eleventh.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: We hope to hang out with you guys. And somebody
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: asked me if v I P tickets means that they
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: get to meet us and hang out after the show.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's true, isn't it. Yeah, that's true, and
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: they get a free piece of merch. And I saw
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: some of that merch that possibly might be there. It's
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: so cool. Yeah, it's not finalized yet, but we're excited.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: But the ideas of growing and they're actually like you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: would want to wear them. Thank you, thank you Tori,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: thank you Danielle, and thank you Easton and girls. Thanks
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: for joining me in my Hot Topics segment today. I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: love good girl talk. It was juicy. Let's all sign
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: off together. I've been Tori, I've been Danielle. I've been
• 1:04:06
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