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09/01/26 - Hour 1 · The Huddle

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Sanchez might be ready. Kyle Harrison. Not so much. Welcome
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: in five o'clock clubbers. Let's seize the Tuesday. Shall we?
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Let's make things better. Let's get past. Well, let's get
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: past a debacle at Wrigley field. Better to lose like
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: that than lose. I guess four or three and 10
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: for an earlier night. That's for sure. And a long night.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: I definitely want to help. I want to thank Kyle Harrison.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: for allowing me to get the best night of sleek. I've,
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: I've had in two weeks.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: In quite some time, drew. I'm glad, I'm glad you
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: and I were in the same boat. I recovered from that.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: I finally recovered from that Packers game. And that long
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: day we had Friday.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Cause you know, Billy, you were doing important golf and bacheloring,
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: but you know, but then Friday we were together at
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: Lambeau and then you went back to it.
• 0:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: I needed that. That was a much needed. So kudos,
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: Kyle Harrison. Good thing he was tipping his pitches and
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: giving up home runs like Halloween candy.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and sweating like me on a normal 70-degree day. Like, man,
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: as he is just sitting out there wearing it, I
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: came back down after putting the youngster to bed. He
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: went to bed after it was 4-0 and said, Daddy,
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: it gets better.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, sweet, sounds good. We came back downstairs.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: It was 9-0.
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: I turned that son of a gun off and turned
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: on the boys on the radio broadcast on the app,
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: and I think I was down in about 10 minutes.
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: It was, that is, they put the kids to bed
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: early kind of night, This is one of the great
• 1:28
  Speaker 2: sports fan debates of all time, right? Better to lose
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: a game to one or 20 to one last night's
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: a okay way. As Pat Murphy said, we're not playing
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: for run differential. We're playing to win as many games
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: as possible. That thing was done early and quickly. And then,
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: you know, Andrew Vaughn got to go and blow up
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: his ERA to 30 for the season. So as tough
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: as it is now, it's just take two and wake
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: up today. But Kyle Harrison is, My goodness. My man
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: is opening up some more conversations. It appears for us
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: to look at as we get closer and closer to
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: the post season. And now we have to start figuring out,
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: are you going to go with a three man rotation
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: or a four man rotation into one of those playoff series?
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: They've been running with a six manner and it seems
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: like they're having a few more questions than answers as
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: to who's going to be grabbing one of those spots.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: Cause I would have told you all year long, Harrison
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: would have been in there and his last month and
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: a half would, uh, have a lot of people having
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: some trust issues sounding like Drake as they roll into
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: the playoffs.
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely, he's struggling a little bit, especially on
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: the road. Now it wasn't as bad in New York as,
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: as the other ones, but, Last night was a struggle,
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: and it kind of gives you the heebie-jeebies.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: He grinded through that start in New York. He did.
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: He got through it. Gave up one run. He got
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: through it.
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: The numbers ended up being fine, but it wasn't like
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: a masterpiece without a doubt.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: Not to what we were seeing early in the year.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: There's no question.
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: And I guess in the back of your mind, you think, well,
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: is he going to continue to look this dominant all
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: the time? You understood there'd be some rough patches, but
• 2:52
  Speaker 3: it's the splits for the home road that get me nervous.
• 2:54
  Speaker 3: But the reality is, yeah, it just wasn't there for him.
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: He's a sweater, Billy. I mean, he needs all those.
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: He needs all the iron jock that my man does.
• 3:04
  Speaker 3: But this was the opposite of the cookies theory game.
• 3:08
  Speaker 3: The cookies were never in the oven. That cookie dough
• 3:11
  Speaker 3: was frozen in the back of the freezer with a
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: frost burn on it. You didn't even get the flour.
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: You didn't need to get the flour out. You didn't
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: smell cookies. You didn't have to worry about cookies. I'm
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: going to go preheat the oven, and that son of
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  Speaker 3: a gun said no chance.
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. You had no thought.
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: There was not one inkling of a thought that you
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: might get dessert last night, which does make it easier sometimes.
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: You don't like saying it that way.
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: Trust me, you never want to give up nine homers
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: and get your butt blown in like that. But the
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: reality is it was definitely easier to maintain the process
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: emotionally last night. Like you said, you went right to bed.
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: My buddy's complaining about Andrew Vaughn's pitch count. I said, brother,
• 3:43
  Speaker 3: go to bed. I was texting him. He's like, ah, Andrew,
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's being tongue-in-cheek, obviously. He's like, this is
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: garbage baseball. We got Andrew from, like, so why are
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: you watching? I'm like, it's over.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: Go to bed.
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: The best part about last night is you said it, Drew.
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: This only counts as one game.
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: That's the solace you can take is they don't get
• 4:03
  Speaker 3: to squeeze any more wins out of last night's performance
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: than one. So.
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well, for sure. It's one game. It was,
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: you know, when your velocity is down, like Harrison, when
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: you're sweating all over the place and when you are,
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: you know, possibly tipping pitches, like he said, he probably
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: was like, they kind of knew what was going on.
• 4:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: And well, and he fires up the first at bat
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: to PCA.
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: And as we had talked all day long, like, Hey, don't,
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: don't feed him a couple of first pitch fastballs.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: Fires two of those things right in there on the
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: inside part of the plate.
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: The Second, he hit a long way, just a long
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: way foul and ends up getting him out. He was
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: one of the only guys he was able to get
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: out all night. Had to be doing something true because
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: the velocity has been a question for him in the
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: last couple of what for the last maybe month or
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: so since he came back from the forearm. He's had
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: a couple of games where he's been able to get
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: back to the average velo on the fastball of 95
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: 96 like it was earlier in the year. And if
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: he's going to be playing that thing at 91 92,
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a lot more hittable. especially if
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: he is giving any inclination as to what he's throwing
• 5:10
  Speaker 2: guys are going to tee off.
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: And it looked like he was throwing titleists there.
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: Last night, especially to Bregman with that massive piece of lumber.
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: He's swinging now after his adjustments, he was, he was
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: serving them up last night.
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: He was totally serving them. And you know, one of
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: those nights, but if he is tipping and the Cubs
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: had it, kudos to them. because you can do that
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: with film study. Now used to have to be in
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: the ballpark to kind of get a guy. Yeah. He
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: puts his hands higher when he's throwing a fastball and
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: like you have to now you just probably AI is
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: cracking that code.
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: Well, and I mean, you saw we saw it a
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: couple of years ago with with Alonzo figuring it out
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: to Devin Williams as he was holding and tipping his
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: change up in game three of that wildcard series and
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: the hitting coach came over and showed him exactly what
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: it was and he realized exactly what it was pointed
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: to him as he rounds the bases so i don't
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: that that's that's film study and that's gamesmanship that's work
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: you got to be able to correct it and murph
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: mentioned i talked about it after the game as well
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: it's just you got so many young guys this is
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: now the longest run of baseball that he's probably thrown
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: in his entire career and you got a bunch of
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: dudes that are now ending the longest years of their
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: professional lives while you're trying to win the toughest games
• 6:24
  Speaker 2: to win the last ones and into September.
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: So I, I'm not that worried about it.
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: However, I do think he gives you some pause as
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: to how you're building out your rotation come playoff time
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: because it has been more questions than answers that he's
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: delivered while he's been on the mound over the.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: Last, what, month?
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of the challenge with a bunch of
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: young guys, right? How about Dustin May was going to
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: be that answer. Yeah, well, and maybe there's still time.
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll see what happens in September. Give all the
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: guys their starts, their moments, and see who kind of
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: figures it out, who gets through.
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, we tend to be a creature of the moment.
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: In baseball, but you have to look at the big
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: picture sometimes.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: And you're right, Billy. That's what it is.
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things with the pitch tipping. It's like, okay,
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: if there is something to figure out, I'm glad we
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: can figure it out now and not in game.
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: Three of the wild card series. Yeah. Like we had
• 7:13
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: With Devin, unfortunately. So, Hey, sometimes it happens like that.
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: The Cubs are a great offensive team. They've been that
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: all year. That's obviously their strength. And they had an,
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: they capped off an incredible August in terms of hitting homers.
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: I think it was the second most since, an old
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: Yankees team or something like that.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: I read the stat quickly, but the reality is 10
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: of them. Yeah. Just ridiculous.
• 7:34
  Speaker 3: And, and, and all you can say to yourself as well,
• 7:37
  Speaker 3: they probably won't do that again in September. You hope like,
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: at least in that regard. So, you know, this is
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: the strength of the Cubs or their offensive team.
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: They have a lot of power.
• 7:46
  Speaker 3: And obviously that's what gives you a little bit of
• 7:48
  Speaker 3: fear going into October. When you talk about them as
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: a factor is the way they can hit for power,
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: but The reality is the Brewers have earned themselves the
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: right to have a seven-game cushion still after last night.
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: And that's what they'll be walking in with today. Yeah,
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: the math is still mathing. I was thinking about this
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: even before yesterday. I thought, what if the Brewers lost
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: every game in this series with the Cubs? They went 0-7.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: It was just dismal. But they won every other game.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: They'd still win the division comfortably. Oh, they'd still win
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: it in somewhat going away. Yeah, for sure. It's like, well, yeah.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: And the math is the math. And we had... I
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: think Cleveland made up like 11 games in 24 days
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: against Detroit, Detroit last year. And that, that had ramifications
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: into them trading Scooble this year.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: It was like, that was the, and then those two
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: teams played each other into the playoffs and Cleveland couldn't
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: even enjoy it. Cause they lost, they lost the playoff series,
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: the quick three game, or that they didn't even get
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: to a bask in the glow.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And then we had, um, Well, even the Brewers
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: made up a pretty good chunk in 2018. Five and
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: a half against the Cubs in 18, yeah. So, but again,
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: I still feel pretty good. This was one game that
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: was awful, and hey, might as well have one like that.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Get your mulligan out of the way, right? Have Andrew
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: Vaughn pitch too, because Bryce Wilson has gone to be
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: the patron saint of garbage time. Bryce Wilson was great
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: in that role, by the way. He really was. Sucking
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: up innings and putting up zeros when keeping the... keeping
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: the bleep to shoe level.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: Well, and also keeping you in some of those games, given,
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, keeping people at the ballpark on Sunday, because
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: you were within somewhat striking distance. They, the, the momentum
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: of the next day starting pitcher, just as good. Robert
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: Gasser came in and saved you a couple of days ago.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: That's in another very hot and cold pop proposition though.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: Cause there have been some nights where he has looked phenomenal.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: And then there've been other nights where he just has
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: not been able to locate Biggest deal is, Drew, you
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: got to be able to throw strikes. And as much
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: as Harrison was, whether or not he was tipping pitches
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: or not, too much was just getting way too much
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: of the zone. And then it felt like he was
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: nibbling after a while. And and i don't know how
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: you don't get into your own head when you throw
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: 98 pitches and seven of them get hit out.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: Right i mean that's your point he can live he
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: was he was living high like kind of down the
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: middle when he had 95 96 with a jump and
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: when you don't and when you're throwing 91 and it's
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: not jumping and you're living middle middle you're gonna be
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: living in the bleachers you're getting crushed especially on humid
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: night there and it's going to be hot again tonight
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: winds blowing out like that's going to be that lends
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: itself to it so it's not that traditional September weather
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: the question is at what point did you click at
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: what point did you turn off checkout or did you
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: go to something else to watch At what point did
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: you say goodbye? This is over.
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: I think it was Chad Patrick had came into the game.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: I had fallen asleep putting the oldest to bed, which
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: is generally how that goes. There sometimes is a race,
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: and we'll see who can win, who falls asleep first.
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: Dad won last night. And so I woke up. It
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: was 9-0 after the fourth inning. I just watched Chad
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: Patrick get out of that inning. and walked back into
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: the room, flipped on the boys, heard Lane Grindle for
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: about maybe one or two at-bats, and then I think
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: it was done. I'm telling you, it was a very,
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: very early call for me last night, which is sad.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: I don't like waving the white flag like that. However,
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: I could feel like it was. When they said, Sanchez,
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: you ready? I thought that was Pat Murphy talking to Gary.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Gary. Gary, that would have been the one for me, too.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if his arm was ready to
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: throw two innings today.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: I think he's fatigued, yeah. I mean, Bregman's second homer, maybe? Yeah,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: I made it till it was 6-0, and I'm like, well,
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: it's punt time. Yeah, it's punt time. And then when
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: I saw guys getting on in the third, it's like,
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a tough way to live. Yeah,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: and then you knew Harrison was just going to wear it, right?
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: You could get that sense there pretty quickly that it
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: was going to be a long.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: Night for him. But hey, how about Cooper Pratt? Come
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: on now, kid. Find the pass. Come on now.
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: Missed the homer, but it was nice to see he
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: got one. And that's good.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: So his first game ever at Wrigley, right? Yeah, I
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: think so.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: Now, Armin, Drew and I mentioned over here. Now, were
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: you fighting with Cubs fans online too long to get
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: some shut eye last night? Or did you also... Call
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: it a little early into the proceedings. No, I was
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: able to get to sleep.
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: And everything like that and put it to bed early.
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: But as I do with all the times my team
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: gets beat in and loses like that, I try and
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: mentally process, emotionally process the loss, come up with some
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: sort of explanation, and then put it out to the
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: world now that I have Twitter back.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, it was just like, hey, I just tweeted.
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: I was taking a walk around the block trying to
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: kind of cool down because a loss like that.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: Get you. Physical walk around the block? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: walk around the block. It's good mentally. It's good to
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: get you. I like that walk it off a little bit. Yeah,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: except I'm getting these gnarly mosquito bites. That's a different...
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: different issue. Um, no.
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: And I just said to myself, I take solace in
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: the fact that we've won every game against the Cubs.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: That's ever mattered in history. And that's true. And any
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: head to head matchup that's ever really mattered. The Brewers
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: have won. And that's how I went to bed last night.
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: And if it gets in their algorithms, which I think
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: it did a little bit, um, that's even better because
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: it's been a while for me to get in there
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: and practice getting close.
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: To football season.
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: So you got to make sure you're in there, but
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: we haven't had a lot of body bag work in
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: a while. So we have to get used to the process. And, uh,
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: It was fun to kind of watch it. And then
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: the news that they're starting this romance series. We'll get
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: to that later. But oh my goodness, that was just
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: too perfect. Just so funny. But yeah, it was good
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: to get back in their algorithm a little bit. A
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: physical walk around the block, Drew. I like the walk around.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: Blow off the steam. Reconvene and settle in for game
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: number three. I'm also never getting the, we also, you
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: asked when we went to bed, but that was when
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: I said, all right, we're going to go to cops now.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: We can leave now and go to cops. Oh, a
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: little warm up Sunday. There we go.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: But I'm never getting the blueberry shake again. That's the
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: first and last time I've tried it because that's a
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: bad luck shake now.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Because I said, you know, I never had a blueberry shake.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: They have a blueberry shake when the Brewers are playing
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: the Cubs.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's the same guy that fired up two Chicago
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Sounders yesterday, Drew, on game balls and kicks to the balls.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: Wow. On the day that we start the seven game
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: and ten there. Armin is the jinx.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: Armin.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. Armin's responsible for the touchdown run differential. 17
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: to three. Brewers lose. So, all right. We flushed that one.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: 877-794-1973 to check in. Five o'clock clubbers. What time did
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: you check out? when Bowers made the error and he
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: and Harrison almost got killed at first base. And then
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: that was like, and then Carson Kelly got a hit.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this isn't going, this isn't going to
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: turn around. This isn't going to go. I've seen enough
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: ball to know that after this start and that play,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's well, and then it became like, okay,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: punt mode. And how much do they squeeze out of Harrison?
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: And what, how do they manage the bullpen? Cause again,
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: you got to manage the next game. That's what it's
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: all about. Yeah. And so, you know, using Patrick the
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: way they did and like, then getting to, yeah. How
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: do they get what's who's the bridge to Andrew Vaughn?
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Who's who's we got to build a bridge to Andrew Vaughn.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: And so Hall and Patrick ended up drawing the cards
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: and having to come into this lost cause.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: And.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: I just did. Yeah, it wasn't when they flashed to
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Chad for them. They flashed Chad Patrick in the bullpen.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: He tried to catch the ball and it bounced out
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: of his glove. It was emblematic. That was one of
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: those nights.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: It was one of those nights.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: So, yeah.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: And really quick, I see a text, Dustin. He said,
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: what makes me nervous is this team needs a dozen
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: hits to score three runs. And that's the reality of
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: what the Brewers do. Small market rallies. it's a cool
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: romantic notion for walks helps, but that does help too.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: But you're right.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot of power in sight sometimes for
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: this team that you do see it with the Cubs.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: And that is something legitimately that would scare you. Cause
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: we know how important that plays in the playoffs. So
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: it's a fair point. It does face in the best pitching.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: It's hard to get five straight hits. It is.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of what, you know, we find ways
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: to explain it away because we do it very well.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: And this is our team and they do really well
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: and they win a lot of games doing that, but
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: it is a concern.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: It's fair.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Um, just, it was the Cubs night starting with, uh,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Taylor Tyrone Taylor. Yeah.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: And, uh, he, I liked BA mentioning all about this
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: rivalry talked about it when he, when he came back
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: over and that's a good shot in the arm. It also, again,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: helps when it's middle middle for about 92. And that
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: is going to be, it's just, it's going to be
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: a thing drew. And I wonder how much they can even, uh,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, Murph talked about it after the game, like
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: they're going to run their guys out there. These are
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: the dudes that have gotten them to one of the
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: best record in the National League right now.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: But it begs a real question about Harrison as to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: how much.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Is he going to be able to give you if
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: his velo is going to be like this or if
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: it was one of those nights. And I don't know
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: if they feel like they can skip a start where
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: there's 16 games in 16 days might just have to
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: be able to try to work this thing out. There's
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: not a whole lot of time to be trying to
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: work yourself out of a velo problem with three starts left.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Not much you can do. Did he say, were we
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: talking about him tipping pitches in Vegas when he got shellacked?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Or was that just like the mountain air and just
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: this big joke of a ballpark? That was definitely a
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: tipping pitches kind of thing. There's history here. There's definitely some.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: There's history here, and he maybe slipped into an old
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: habit or something. But sometimes you just suck. And I
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: know sometimes it's like, hey, you must have been tipping.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: And I've seen teams when guys suck. They just go, well,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: we got to figure out. He had to be tipping
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: to get lathered that bad. And it's like, no, he
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: just really sucked. Just was really rinsing it in. Just
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: throwing BP. He's just throwing middle, middle and stuff. So
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: flush that one. We'll help you. 7 o'clock hour, we're
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: going to talk to Hunter Baumgart about last night's game.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: And before that, we'll talk to Bill Schroeder.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I was going to say Hunter and then Bill Schroeder,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the seven o'clock hour is going to make us flush
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: it real quick though.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: When we get Hunter and then rock, that'll make us
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: feel very good going into game two tonight.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: That is right. Absolutely. And meanwhile, we still have Packers
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: roster stuff and NFL machinations and the delusion I saw
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: yesterday when the graphic and I'm, it's like, it's actually
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: a talking point where I'm so I mourn for our,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: our national media, uh, The industrial complex. Oh, I'm excited
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: for this one. It's just, it's another one of those
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: bottom line chyrons. I look up on ES panel. I'm like, really? Really?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: It's still happening.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:29
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• 18:31
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• 18:37
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• 18:46
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• 18:46
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• 18:52
  Speaker 1: We'll get to those props later on. But I did
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: mention and I did tease and I did remember through
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the course of our little commercial break that the thing
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: that grabbed me yesterday is in the wake of the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald signing. Can the Rams go undefeated? Oh, it's
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: fired up. Will the Rams go undefeated? Like we can't
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: just say that they're going to be a good team
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: and they've added another generational defensive player. Will they go undefeated?
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Like that's, we have to leap right to that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Because it's not, it's no fun to just say that
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: they're the overwhelming Superbowl champ favorites.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It's no, it's no fun. And by overwhelming Superbowl favorite,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you say. that they have like a, what, 16, 17%
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: chance to win the Super Bowl? Against the field, yeah.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Against the field. And it's like, okay. But to make
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that leap and say, will they go undefeated in the
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: course of an NFL season?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Is that just the natural inclination for us for some
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: every year to throw out that talking point for the
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: best team or what they everyone can say?
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: People are people have dreamed about somebody going undefeated since
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: the Patriots did it in 07.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Right now.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, at the bottom of me sportsbook, they make
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: money on it yearly because they put it up. and
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: 14 to one for any team to go 17 and
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: O I do good luck taking it because they also,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: and it's just the most incredible disrespect for the team
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that last time I checked drew. won the Super Bowl
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: that plays in their same division that they kind of
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: beat twice.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Last year in the final two months to go. The
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Niners are always pretty good, too. It's crappy. But just like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: why do we have to go there now? You could
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: start talking about an unbeaten season if they're 13 and Yeah.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: But I mean, they were doing this with the, remember
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: when Nnamdi Asamoah signed with the Eagles and they signed
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Vince Young as their backup.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. And the people don't learn. And
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: now it's those kids. It's the kids of those producers.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're just like everything. Why does everything have
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: to be? But I don't, I guess I question that
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: this is just now.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like they've been trying to do
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: this with the best team in the sport for the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: last 10, 15, 20 years.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: We've been throwing this thing out. 97 Packers.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: This was the storyline going into the year. This is
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: going to be the best team ever. And we're going
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: to go undefeated. Then we lose to the Eagles in
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: week two on a field goal by law. I mean,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: so I don't know.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: If it's new. Even the Chiefs three years, two, three
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: years ago when they won.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Are they going to go 17 and 0? Are they
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the best team ever? Yeah, it was like.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: And Packers were closest team doing it. I mean, they
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: were 15 and one until they lost. I think that
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: it is a romantic notion for some to see how far,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: you know, how great it can be, but you're right.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Position that as even like a conversation worth having. Oh, fair. Yeah.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: And you got, I have NFL experts and we got
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: to toss this one around and like, and we have
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to pretend that we're, you know, considering, like, the possibility
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: at this point. It totally could happen. Yeah, maybe totally.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And they're also a Stafford injury away from being, like, 3-14.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, Billy, the last 24 hours has me questioning
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: the Rams, because since Billy's talked about it yesterday, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: you were bringing up some good points, Billy, I'm like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: are we too high on the Rams, too?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Seahawks are still good, and, like, come on.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: They do it to get you mad, Drew. I just said,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: why do we have to leap there? To get you upset. Yeah,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that and the... The chyrons of, who's under more pressure
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: this year, the Ravens or Lamar Jackson? Well, how about
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: this one? That's a dumb question, too, because aren't they intertwined?
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Aren't their fortunes tied together somewhat in a major way?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: It's about setting narratives. Exactly. Dan Orlovsky, a guy who
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I like. I enjoy his content. I like him.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: But he went yesterday with the if Matt Stafford wins
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: another one, are we talking about top five all time?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, are you kidding me? I couldn't believe it
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: when I saw that clip. But it's what he throws
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: out there. So are we just not supposed to talk
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: about it?
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: If he wins another one, he then leapfrogs two of
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: your favorite of all time.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: It depends how you look at it. You know, what
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: makes someone the best? It's just Super Bowls.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he does.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: He does with Super Bowls, but not in all pros.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Look at his counting stats as well.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: He's one of the best quarterbacks ever with an underperforming team.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: He had a great run with an underperforming team, though.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: though he had good weapons.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: But I also would like to decide, like, I'd quibble
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: that anybody was going to win in the organization of
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions in the early 2000s. Even with legendary weapons. Yeah,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you can have a first ballot Hall of Famer, no
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: doubt about it. But with that organization, I don't know
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you were winning.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: But I don't think anyone would look at you straight
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: in the face, really in your eye, and say they
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: think Matt Stafford ever is going to be top five,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: which is fine.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: He's still a great quarterback. He'll probably be a Hall
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: of Famer. He is. I don't know.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, yes.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: He is a Hall of Famer. Okay, fine.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: He is, but not top five, and he'll never be,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: and that's fine.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone should really... But the fact that Orlovsky...
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: He can win the next two Super Bowls, and I'll
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: still say Aaron Rodgers is the better player. I'm also not...
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know that everybody would, though. I think most would.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I think here a lot of people would. I think
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: a vast majority would, and I'll stand on that.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to talk to... People whose
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: opinions I respect would say Aaron Rodgers is still the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: better player, even though... What are we talking about here?
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But my point is that doesn't make him a bad player.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: No.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean Orlowski's not.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I think he's excited to talk about things like that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Somebody said, well, this is his friend, and that's why
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: he's saying, well, I don't believe that either, necessarily. I
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: think he just gets excited about thinking about things like
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: this and maybe jumps to a little hyperbole, which we
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: all do in sports a little bit.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I think maybe it's a function of there's so many
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: outlets and there's so much content, and in order to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: stand out and to kind of like, you have to
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: kind of.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Of course, you want to get viral moments and things.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: You have to go from A to Q. Like, let's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: just take this all the way to the extreme. Like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: we're two weeks away from seeing, are the Sixers going
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to be the best team in the history of the NBA?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know how we're acting like this
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: is just happening now. Like, this has been happening for
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the last 10 to 15 years. This is not just
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: a brand new thing that's firing up.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: The dumb questions on ESPN, especially on those morning panel shows,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: are legendary. But they have to keep pushing themselves. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: this is just an extension of it. Because there's more
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: content to be filled now. Exactly. There used to be
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: two papers in town. Now there's a million podcasts. The
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: more pressure conversations and the stuff like that. Who's under
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: more pressure, the Cubs or the Brewers? Because the Brewers
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: lost 17-3. Now we have to go all the way
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to one side and say that game counted for more
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: than it did. one game.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, I get it. I totally, I understand.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: But like, I just, I don't know how we're acting
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: like this is brand new stuff to like the sports
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: world or the entertainment world. They've been doing lists like
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: this for 15 years. We've been debating who's the best quarterback,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: who's the best team, when does this matter more, who's
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: going to be under more pressure for however long.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Last year at this time, who was pounding a, show
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: me someone who was pounding the desk saying that Seattle
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: is And New England were the teams. There might have
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: been one guy, maybe Nick Wright or somebody. Shows why
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive how they did it. I mean, Seattle
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: at one point was 60-1 to win the Super Bowl
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: last year. Exactly. And no one touted them. And no
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: one had Sam Darnold or Drake May in their top
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: ten last year of quarterbacks. They ended up being the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: final two. which made them the best then. And now
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: they're better than everybody. Now everybody else has to catch up.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not seeing that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen anybody put Sam Darnold in the top 15.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Best quarterbacks in football.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: It also shows the greatness of this league. Like you
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: just don't know what to expect and to try and
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: figure it out and tell the future. And this league is,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: is impossible. And that's what makes it great. The margins
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: are thin.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: It's unpredictable. And that's why last year was kind of
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: refreshing after the Patriots run. And then the chiefs run.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's nice to have a little, you know, turnover.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: At the top, isn't it? Like, it was refreshing. Oh, sure.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: It was a bit of a palate cleanser.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. Just as it would be.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed the Chiefs run. I know a lot of
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: people got bored with the greatness. I thought it was
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the master class. I thought it was amazing.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: They were fun to watch. Yeah. And then they got old.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: They got a lot of fatigue, no doubt about it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And we'll see. But I just.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: it is cool to see how we hate having a
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: pinnacle in a team to shoot for and a benchmark.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And now for the next three years, we'll be looking
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: for somebody to be there and begging.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: For somebody to be that team. Same thing happened in
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: baseball when they didn't have a repeat champion. And then
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers do it. And it's like, Oh, we got
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: to fix the whole system. We complain about not having
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: dynasties in So we had them. Well, in college football now, too.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: We're never happy as sports fans.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, for sure.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: We're never happy. We always want the other thing. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: said that we have the new Beyond the Booth podcast
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: with Wayne Larrabee. I was doing it yesterday with Wayne Hall.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah. And we talked about that. And now there's
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: probably 15 teams that can say that they're going to
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: win the championship. They have a chance to win the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: college football playoff because of the way it lays out.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Whereas in the past, it might have been four.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Three, four, five.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: When they had four teams in there, there were realistically
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: three teams that could probably win the title every single year.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: For the playoff. It was like, OK, three or four again.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe a hundred percent. Maybe. And now we're in a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: different era. So it's like it's it's opened up a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: little bit. And in the we were talking about the
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: portal stuff to how impossible it is to.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: From when Wayne was calling games on the Big Ten Network,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: it is a completely different sport.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: College programs now, we were talking about how they don't
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: spend as much. Recruiting has changed. It's not, hey, we're
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: going to watch this kid play at a camp, and
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: we're going to go to his high school game. We're
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: going to go in the living room and talk to
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the parents. No, we're going to go find a guy
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that we can pay more at a Mac school. We're selecting.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: We're using the smaller schools as our farm system in
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: high school. Well, it's nice to get a high school
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: kid once in a while, but if he's a local
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: or if he's a five-star that we like, But for
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the most part, it's like we're going to shop at the,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you know, the used. That's what it is now. And
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: then the flip side of that is college programs are
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: reminding me of the admirals. The admirals do a great
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: job with their game production. You guys are part of
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: it and they have great theme nights and stuff. They
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: don't really market their players because their players, when they
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: get good, are gone. Same thing with the Timber Rattlers.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: They do a great job of that, but you can't
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: really market players. You have to say, come and see
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Jesus Madi while he's here because he's going to be
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: in Biloxi soon. They have to market, and it's become
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that way where college fans aren't identifying and latching on
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: to players for four years anymore. It's like, they're just
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: like enjoying while they're here. And we like this guy.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: And then who's this guy now? No, you are a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: fan of the brand. You are a fan of the brand.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: It's the brand and it's the shirt and it's the
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: brand and it's, and you like that. And which is,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: it's sustainable. because clearly like the admirals and the T-Rex,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: they do an incredible job and serve their fans and
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: fans have a great time at their games. But again,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it's not focused on the players. It's focused on the
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: brand and the, The vibe and the atmosphere because the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: players change over so much. College didn't used to be
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Now it is.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Now it's like one and done, one and done.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I don't know because when I think
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: of college athletics, the reason why it is as popular
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and exciting and big time and why the pageantry is
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: what it is. Because people care more about the brand.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: People care about the school. Armand's going to care way
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: more about Marquette than any player that's ever played there.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: You're going to care more about the institution far more
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: than any player.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. The traditions, all that stuff.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so even though now the players are getting paid,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know that that completely flipped it, but I
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: wonder in the next three to five years, now that
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the school is paying the player real money in terms
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: of revenue sharing, if you're going to see more... billboards
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: with an alley beers on it because they're going to
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: bring in some NIL cash. Cause that's where you're ultimately
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: going to be able to keep guys.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Guys from the generation ago, like Butchie is a, you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Butchie's from the state and he's a badger.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And we have guys like, you know, JJ Watt is
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: a badger. JJ Watt is a badger. And there, there
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: are guys that are, and then there are guys who
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: aren't from here who become badgers, right? Guys from Kaminsky.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Guys that were coming from out of state, but the
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Kaminsky will be a badger. When in 15 years, when
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: he's chasing his kids around and wants to tune in
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: college football, what team will Billy Edwards cheer for? of
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the four that he's played for, the four schools that
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: he's been for. Like, which one is he going to
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: cape up for? Which one is he, oh, I'd like
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to get the broadcast job there.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Guys are mercenaries now. Exactly. Like, it's like, you can't
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: fathom it, right?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: There might be something, or they might have multiple teams
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: he roots for, or it could be one of those teams.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Like, wherever he had the best memory. I'm not singling
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: out Billy Edwards. No, I get it. No, that's an
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: individual question for everybody. We joke about him having, like,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you know, a whole closet full of gear from four
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: different schools. AJ Store, like, guys like that is, like,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: It's you lose a little something in that. And it's
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: the cost of it. And it is what it is.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm not mad at the culture because it's a
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: river and we can't change it. But it's like it
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: is a thought that crosses my mind. It's part of
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the thing about college is there are guys who make like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the smart guys who make connections and visit
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the Robert Frozina's of the world who, you know, used
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: playing at Marquette. as a way to meet business leaders
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and to like connections and stuff like that and to
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: further your, your network and your career. Guys do that. Well,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: maybe they're doing that at every stop and collecting that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: There are definitely some that are doing it.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: We also, though, we see and glam onto the numbers
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: that are in the portal. We jump at the numbers
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: that are there. There are still 70% of college athletes
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: that are staying at the same school. There are still
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: a large portion of the players that are still doing
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: exactly that same one that are going to have a
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: place to come back to. And you hope that you're
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: able to have more Mason Posas coming And Eugene Hilton's hopefully, because.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Eugene's going to have a huge year coming up under
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Colton Joseph.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: You want to speak into existence that you get guys
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: in there for a couple of years and they roll through.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Like USC just had the number one high school recruiting class,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: but they got guys on the field right away. They
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: had a dude, Luke Waffle, who was starting at the end,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: true freshman playing in his first game, playing like 50 snaps.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: You're going to get young players that are going to
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: be playing because you're not just going to be able
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: to sit them there for forever in whatever these institutions.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And that's right, Billy.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: There are still a lot of guys that go to
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: a school because they got the offer there.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: They grew up wanting to go there.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Oregon's taking like 10 transfers. They're bringing in 30 players.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: They're bringing in most of those guys from high school.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: If you bring in high school guys and you play
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: a bunch of them right away because that's what you
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: got to do. And then you take your lumps. Do
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: they then start looking for the exits to go play
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: for somewhere that's winning right away?
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but I mean, you see possibly for sure.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: But again, like the best schools, the best teams look
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: at a lot of the best teams. They're still most
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: of their best players are all still coming through. You'd
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: hope the high school recruit. I mean, I don't I
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: don't even know that's a hope. You look at the
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: best teams in college football. The main core of their
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: players are all going to be guys that they brought
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: in like Ohio State.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: You look at. Jeremiah Smith, best player. He was brought
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: in early.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: There will be a number of guys that come in
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and out, but the core is still going to be
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: because otherwise you're just going to be too transient.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Like you can't live like Lane Kiffin bringing in 40
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: new players.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: And I think in football, we call it a quarterback
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: slot and quarterbacks.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Basketball is totally different. Your roster is completely different.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You might have a knipple. but then you got like
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: four transfers around him. And maybe one to two high
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: school kids on a basketball team, no doubt.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: And you have program guys that'll stay, but those are
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: generally not the good players because if they have value,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: they're usually getting offers for more money. You get the,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: remember Matt Helt?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: He was from Nina.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: He played at Marquette for four years. He was like the,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: his nickname was the milk man. He, everyone liked him
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: program guy, but he wasn't a great player. He was
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: a nice role player and he was off the bench
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: and he was a nice program guy. But if a
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: guy like that is actually any good, They're probably getting
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: a bunch of offers. They either have to get the
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: money somewhere else or stay there and keep money.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: That's how it rolls. When we come back, Hunter Baumgart
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: will give us the gory details of a gruesome Brewers
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: outing last night, 17-3 at Wrigley. Just one game. Hunter
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: had to stick around until the end. We'll get his
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: recap next, and he'll join us live at 7 a.m.,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: followed by Bill Schroeder from Brewers TV. You're in the huddle,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin. Drew Billion-Armond huddled up on a Tuesday.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Picking through the rubble. We're trying to avoid picking through
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the rubble. The 17-3 Brewers loss at Wrigley Field last night.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: One of those nights, flush it and move on. And
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: let's see if the Brewers can do that with Bobby
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Gasser on the mound tonight.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Good night to be able to get yourself prepared for,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, they do six months of this where
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: they have a result and then have to put it
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: to bed. But a good little test, Drew, for once
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: you get into the playoffs because as you, I think
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: they're going to only have one off day in that
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: DS series. You're going to have to put painful loss
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: to bed real quick and be able to be your best.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: The next night.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: 17-3.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe the market will correct today. Cubs have been on
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: a roll lately, hitting some home runs. But they've also,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: you know, they've still lost their, what, four and. I
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: was going to say they're seven in their last 11.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: And they haven't necessarily been great on the mound. Outside
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: of Holmes, Clay Holmes has been the best of the
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: guys that they got at the deadline.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Kevin Gosman's been a little bit of a mixed bag.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Imanaga's been up and down.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: So you've been able to tag their pitching staff, and
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: hopefully Brewers are able to do that tonight.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Clay Holmes was phenomenal last night.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Your pitcher, as Pat Murphy said, our guy, our guy,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: far from good.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Far, far from good. So we got it. We got
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: a better opportunity here tonight. Let's take a listen to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: our pal Hunter Baumgart and his recap of last night's
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: proceedings brought to us by import minded. Take it away, Hunter.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Thanks, guys. You already know what happened last night, so
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: we'll leave.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: It at that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: One positive note out of last night. Cooper Pratt, Luis Lara,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: their first games at Wrigley Field ever and Cooper Pratt.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: First at-bat, 106-mile-an-hour single. Luis Lara doubled down the line
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: in his first at-bat at Wrigley Field. And then Cooper
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Pratt got the Brewers on the board with a two-run
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: home run a little later. But let's move on to tonight,
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: shall we? Robert Gasser on the mound for the crew.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: His only regular season start against the Cubs came back
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: May 27, 2024. You may remember that day for other reasons.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: That was the first day that Craig Council came back
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: to Milwaukee tonight. in a Cubs uniform, and the Brewers
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: won 5-1. He threw six shutout innings that day. Let's
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: see if he can do it again tonight at Wrigley Field.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: He is on the mound for the crew. I'll have
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: you for the baseball pregame show at 5.30 this evening
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: on Fox Sports 920 in Milwaukee and our social channels.
• 37:32
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• 37:37
  Speaker 4: of 894. The Brewers have a seven-game lead in the
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: National League Central with 24 games to play. I'll join
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: you guys at 7 o'clock to talk more about the crew.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Back to you guys. Thank you, Hunter. Thank you, Import Minded.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I'll also shout out Hunter. Yeah. You guys know what
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: happened last night.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: We, I, I didn't stay up all this time to
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: have to go through every single thing. I'm going to
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: come out with some positives and that is a nice
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: couple of little positives. Luis Lara and Cooper Pratt getting
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: in into the hitter circle with their first games against
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the Cubs and, and Cooper Pratt drew didn't get to
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: play in those playoff, like atmospheres out in San Diego
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and LA. Good for him to be able to get
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: a couple in here today. So it's supposed to be
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: just hot and humid all week, right? So they're going
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: to be launching these pro V ones all weekend long.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: You keep the ball down, keep the ball down and
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: stop feeding these inside middle, middle fastballs that we were
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: seeing last night. Bobby Gasser though, has been definitely up
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: and down, but has been better, more good than bad
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: over the last one month and a half. It feels
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: like the core of his starts have been relatively good.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Although did, you know, we all know that he got
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: pulled out in the middle of a two Oh a
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: count with a six, nothing lead a couple of weeks ago.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: But other than that, it's been all right. That Cubs
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: lineup is pretty against lefties. They're, pretty well set up, right?
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: They're set up for success. They're loaded, man. It's a
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: powerful lineup. It's really incredible. It is, and it makes
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you appreciate that the Brewers have this lead against the team.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I know we're not supposed to say this, the Cubs
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: are a good freaking team.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: They're definitely good. They look the part. When you see
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: them on paper, you see their numbers, nobody would think
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: that the Brewers.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: And they're without a couple of their top pitchers. They've
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: lost some dudes along the way. They made some upgrades
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that are made some acquisitions at the deadline.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: It's why like it is understandable why the Cubs get
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: the respect they do in the preseason prognostications and the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: preseason win totals. It is more confusing as to why
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the Brewers don't get as much respect as they deserve
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: over the last number of years for what they continue
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: to put on tape.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: But make no mistake about it on paper. And you
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: just look at the rosters.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I understand why the Cubs are the preseason betting favorite
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: to win it the last couple of years. I just
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: have smiled even more than when we go down to
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: the Pottawatomie Sportsbook and win on plus money.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Because you are going to be fighting uphill. Murph, well,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I know he said, you know, you can call us
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the underdogs if you want. Murph calls them the underdogs
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: all the time. Justifiably so when you look at that
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: lineup one through nine. And as he said, and I'm pregnant,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: you pay him 30 million bucks. It's almost more than
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: our whole team.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really is.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: And it's a good team. And they're a good team,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: you know, independent of what the Brewers do. The difference
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: is with the Brewers, I guess it's been how great
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: our starting pitching and our bullpen's been. That's really carried
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: this team to heights beyond, you know, that overcome a
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: lineup like the Cubs have and things like that. So, yeah,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: it is nice to be able to win the plus money.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: You're right, Billy, because when people don't believe in you,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: it's a good way to go. I appreciate it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: But you're right. The Cubs looked the part. The soothing
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: number for you. And again, 24 games left. And what
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: is my mantra about teams and playing 500? If you're
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a good team, 500 is like as bad as it gets.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: That's your low watermark. That's your low watermark. The Brewers
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: win 12 of their next 24. They go 12 and 12.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: It's not hard to imagine that, right? They would tie
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: last year and they would finish with 97 wins. And
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: in order to catch them, the Cubs would have to
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: go 19 and five. I'll take my chances. And then
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: the winner of the season series gets a tiebreaker. So
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: if the Brewers can win three of the next six,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: they win the season series, and that's like essentially a
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: game because you win a tie.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: So that gives you another game in hand, right?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: That's why tonight is important because, Drew, you're right. You've
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: got to now just count to three. That's why the
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: three and four in the seven games that we talked
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: about yesterday was a hell of a lot more appealing
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: because it's an extra win.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: That's right. We will be back. Hunter joins us at 7.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Rock at 7.30. You're in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.