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- 0:12What is horde in thine eternal cell?
- 0:16Sweet Oblivion, open your arms. I can't believe you just maybe
- 0:23do that Elizabeth. That was brilliant.
- 0:28Daniel one that starts. Need to play like some dramatic
- 0:31music in the background. Absolutely, that needs to
- 0:34happen. Hello and welcome to the artists
- 0:44Houston. Blogcast, I most enjoy glass and
- 0:47I'm Spencer Williams. We hope you all had a fantastic
- 0:52Thanksgiving, we hope your family, enjoyed our podcast,
- 0:56opposed to, you know, just my Bless catching up.
- 1:02I hope you stayed safe on Black Friday that you didn't do
- 1:07anything too crazy. But you got good deals.
- 1:10How about you Spencer? I mean, I feel the same way and
- 1:13if you celebrate Black Friday and you had to like kick,
- 1:16someone's, I hope you got yourself.
- 1:18Something nice, at least out of it.
- 1:20That's a take, that's a take. I'm not a big fan of Black
- 1:26Friday. I never go out for it is just
- 1:29two days. Dangerous and like, I don't need
- 1:32stuff that bad, you know, I'll just wait, it'll come to me.
- 1:36I know and also I don't feel like I need to get other
- 1:39people's stuff that bad either. I know, I'll like I go out like,
- 1:44kind of later on Black Friday now, but I feel like if you
- 1:48really want deals, you just gotta wait for Cyber Monday.
- 1:51Like that. That's the Real Deals.
- 1:54That's just the way the world is changing at this point.
- 1:57But yeah, just so you know as soon as Thanksgiving Ends.
- 2:00It's just becomes holiday season.
- 2:02I'm already in the zone. I love to especially be home.
- 2:06I one of my favorite things of the holidays, which is pretty
- 2:09cheesy is, I love having like the tree up only because I just
- 2:13love the soft glow of it and I'm like, always in a dark except
- 2:17for my tree. So that's like my favorite part.
- 2:20Put the tree up the decorations. It doesn't need decorations to
- 2:24me. It just needs.
- 2:25It just needs lights. I The decorations I'm going
- 2:31wild, I need Garland around the house.
- 2:36I go wild, I hope my gosh. Wild Elizabeth's house.
- 2:40I imagine is just like this big holiday mess just stuff
- 2:45everywhere. Mistletoe Garland, ornaments
- 2:49reindeer in the front yard fake snow.
- 2:52A snow machine train, set a Santa Claus some more reindeer
- 2:57polar bears penguins Hold that and mine is like a little tree
- 3:03from the dollar section at Target.
- 3:08I'm literally looking at a sign right now that says reindeer
- 3:11parking that I want to convince my parents to put up on our
- 3:14house. I'm not gonna hint that what
- 3:19movie were about to talk about just yet but I feel kind of
- 3:22inspired to maybe get like a goth.
- 3:25Maybe like a black tree. Do they make black trees?
- 3:29They Absolutely do. And you know what?
- 3:32I think. That's how the atom family
- 3:34celebrates Christmas with a black tree or a dead Charlie
- 3:38Brown tree, either one. Yeah, totally like a black
- 3:42holiday tree with the creepy lights and maybe like some
- 3:47purple or some blue Garland on it.
- 3:50You you should get a like, a thing ornament.
- 3:54So you just have like a hand like crawling up your tree.
- 3:58Oh yeah. Oh my I'm going to do that now.
- 4:01I am going so deliciously Macabre for this year's holiday.
- 4:05Yes, yes. Yes.
- 4:08With that being said, Elizabeth take us there in celebration of
- 4:13its 30th Anniversary this month. We watch The Addams Family, I
- 4:19love this movie. Oh my gosh, this is one of the
- 4:23greats. I love this so much somehow okay
- 4:26I'll admit I've been a little nervous to admit this but
- 4:29somehow I I've never seen this Addams Family.
- 4:32I've only ever seen the second one.
- 4:34I definitely had seen this one before, but I'd seen it.
- 4:39Like it was something I saw on TV and like need to do chores or
- 4:43something, so it's like I remembered it.
- 4:45But in Parts because I'm like I definitely saw this like on TV
- 4:49with commercials never just like all the way straight through.
- 4:53I mean, that's fair. I kind of refuse to believe that
- 4:55I've never seen parts of it. I did recognize parts of it but
- 4:59that's just because The Addams Family, so recognizable.
- 5:02I mean, it's like everyone's seen it even without seeing it.
- 5:05Sometimes, you know, I agree. It's just like, you know, the
- 5:10images, you can recognize the images.
- 5:12That's one of the things I like about The Adams Family.
- 5:15It's like there's no mistaking it for anything else.
- 5:19Absolutely. You know, exactly what your get,
- 5:21what you're about to get yourselves into and with that,
- 5:24I'm going to give a little summary in case you need a
- 5:26reminder. Yeah of what kind of chaos
- 5:29happens and the stunningly beautiful home of The Addams,
- 5:33Family mmm-hmm. So here's our summary when a man
- 5:37played by Christopher Lloyd claiming to be Fester the
- 5:40missing relative of the creepy and the kooky mysterious and the
- 5:43Spooky Addams Family reappears. The family is thrilled.
- 5:48However Morticia Addams played by the legendary Anjelica Huston
- 5:54and Gomes played by the equally as legendary Raúl.
- 5:57Juliá begin to suspect the man. Is a fraud since he cannot
- 6:01recall details of his own life, with help Fester manages to get
- 6:06the atoms Clan evicted from their home with this betrayal
- 6:10that Adams, Family must band together to reclaim their home.
- 6:14So a little simple, it's The Addams Family.
- 6:17You know, what happens, creepy stuff.
- 6:20Exactly. If you haven't seen this movie
- 6:22in the last 30 years, go run it on Amazon.
- 6:26Yeah. It's worth it.
- 6:27It's worth it. Just go watch it.
- 6:29It's less than Two hours and it definitely holds up, it totally
- 6:33holds up which I really liked. I was a little, like, it's 91.
- 6:38So while back, but no, it is still fantastic.
- 6:42So let's go behind The Horde herb, Spencer.
- 6:44Let's do it. The Adams Family was directed by
- 6:49Barry, sonnenfeld and costume. Design was by Ruth Meyers, you
- 6:55might recognize her from a couple different things.
- 6:59She The 1996 version of Emma with Gwyneth Paltrow.
- 7:06One of Elizabeth's, probably favorites.
- 7:09Maybe l.a. confidential Deep Impact Ella Enchanted.
- 7:16With Anne Hathaway. The Golden Compass Dorian Gray
- 7:21and The Legend of Tarzan. She is a two-time Academy Award
- 7:28nominee, 14 m, Emma. And the other for The Addams
- 7:32Family. Oh yeah.
- 7:34That's very movie. Is a Academy Award nominee?
- 7:39I will say it deserved it so hard.
- 7:42I might even Venture say that deserved the Oscar that year,
- 7:45but I digress, I because I looked it up on their website
- 7:50and like, I can't even remember what it lost to.
- 7:53So clearly, it should have one. I looked it up to, and I can't
- 7:58remember it. So, Definitely valves family
- 8:01should have won but you know, that was about 30 years ago, so
- 8:05let's move on. Yeah, it's yeah.
- 8:08Let's keep going. So Ruth was brought on to this
- 8:13project and she told the director, Barry sonnenfeld.
- 8:18She's like, I've never seen the TV show.
- 8:21Like, I don't know. She's like I'm, I'm from
- 8:23England. I've never seen this in my life
- 8:26and he was like, perfect. We don't want You referencing
- 8:31the TV show. We want you referencing the
- 8:34original Comics. So Spencer.
- 8:37I think we all need a little history lesson.
- 8:41How about you please? Yes, I could use a refresher on
- 8:45The Addams Family. So as you may or may not know
- 8:48the Adams Family originated as a series of one panel comics in
- 8:55the New Yorker, they were created by Charles Adams in 1938
- 9:03for the New Yorker as I said. And while it is his most
- 9:07enduring work, The Addams Family Comics only account for about
- 9:12like fifty eight of the Thirteen hundred.
- 9:16He created for the magazine all of which came out in the 40s and
- 9:2150s and I got most of this information from a really great
- 9:29Smithsonian. Article, the cultural history of
- 9:31The Addams, Family by Patrick swear.
- 9:35And in it, he talks about Charles Adams being like, you
- 9:40know, that is failing. Most people suspect that it was
- 9:42created by someone who had a difficult childhood.
- 9:46You know, saw the creepier side of life but in a biography of
- 9:50his Charles, Adam is quoted as saying it would be more
- 9:53interesting. Perhaps, if I had a ghastly
- 9:55childhood but I'm one of those strange people who actually had
- 9:58a chappie So, he was apparently a very just normal person who
- 10:05enjoyed the McCobb and enjoyed, like, you know, making fun of
- 10:09people who saw saw it as something odd, or strange, and
- 10:15also his biographer Linda Davis. She says that Adams is one of
- 10:22those rare people who made a living throughout his entire
- 10:25career in the Arts. So, not only is this just like a
- 10:29normal. The person who created this like
- 10:31kind of creepy beloved family, but he actually made a living at
- 10:36it, which I'm like, that's nice to know that for once someone
- 10:41who created like a work of art that we have all, like, grown to
- 10:45love and like, enjoy actually profited off of it.
- 10:51Well, I mean, that's kind of the dream, right?
- 10:53It is totally the dream and I love his drawing style.
- 10:58It's so creepy. And Love the new, like, cartoon
- 11:01version of it, you can really see.
- 11:03They just like pull them straight from these Comics.
- 11:07Oh yeah, definitely. But you know, one of the reasons
- 11:11there are so few Addams Family comics and in the New Yorker is
- 11:16because of the 1964 TV adaptation ABC, debuted The
- 11:25Adams Family on Friday, September 18th 1964 to Compete
- 11:30with cbs's the Munsters, they were like, you got a creepy
- 11:34family, we need a creepy family and also before the show The
- 11:40Addams, Family did not have a name, they were just a creepy
- 11:44family, the TV show gave the family.
- 11:46It's named after their creator. And as Patrick Sawyer, put it,
- 11:52The Adams Family has cemented itself in the mausoleum of pop
- 11:56or culture history, which is totally true.
- 11:59With the TV series, they chose to end, they chose to base the
- 12:04series off the comics because it had more highbrow humor.
- 12:08But ironically the editor of the New York at The Time band, the
- 12:14comics during the show's to season run.
- 12:17So that's one of the reasons there's not a ton of them is he
- 12:20was like, it's a television show, how dare you, I don't want
- 12:24these in my, in my magazine and while only had two seasons and
- 12:29And was not super, super popular.
- 12:32It's true success came in syndication as it gathered a
- 12:35cult following however attempts to bring The Adams Family back
- 12:40to prominence failed until their Silver Screen debut in 1991 with
- 12:47The Addams Family. Yeah.
- 12:50So The Adams Family before this movie, they really had a lot of
- 12:54Success Through the comics and The New Yorker and the TV show.
- 13:00There were a bunch of other TV related attempts, to bring it
- 13:03back but no one really had any interest until Ruth Meyers and
- 13:11Barry, sonnenfeld brought it to the big screen.
- 13:14They brought to the big screen. It was a hit and one of the
- 13:18reasons I feel like it was such a success was how Myers wanted
- 13:25to portray the atoms. She really has only done.
- 13:30One interview about this with L and she said, my late husband,
- 13:35Richard McDonald was a production designer on The Adams
- 13:39Family. And we always work very closely
- 13:42together, we talked to the director about this idea that
- 13:45the atoms were in their own way aristocracy.
- 13:49So you're going to get a very sense that they are rich.
- 13:52They are like, you know, have a deep family, history of being
- 13:56wealthy and that is the end of our behind the Wardrobe facts.
- 14:00Well, those are some good ones. Elizabeth, you just took us all
- 14:03the way back. I um, I like started getting
- 14:08flashbacks while doing this to high school because in high
- 14:13school, I took a, I took a Broadway, it was like called
- 14:18Broadway, dance class, and for are like big school recital that
- 14:22year, we did the opening number to The Adams Family Musical.
- 14:28And The dance instructor I had she knew I was super interested
- 14:35in costume design. So she was like, hey, do you
- 14:37want to help me design all the costumes for them?
- 14:41And I had like a blast doing the costumes.
- 14:45Oh my God, so much fun. Well, that's what I'm so excited
- 14:49to talk about The Addams Family. Let's take a quick break.
- 14:53Go put on our Smoky, eyeshadow at creepy, black outfits and our
- 14:58long wigs. And let's get into Scats
- 15:23really ready. Dananana, dananana dananana.
- 15:38We're back. Anyways, let's start with my
- 15:47absolute favorite character. One of my favorite characters,
- 15:52like in the existence is Morticia Addams.
- 15:56I'm just obsessed, I love Angelica Houston.
- 16:00So much. She was a supermodel.
- 16:04She was a hall Stinnett. A brilliant actress still is a
- 16:08brilliant actress, and the way she plays Morticia Addams is
- 16:12just one of the most beautiful portrayals I've ever seen.
- 16:17I, I agree because she is like, full-on Queen of Darkness, but
- 16:24it's like, I feel like if you were hugged by her, it would
- 16:27feel warm and cuddly. I'm like, The hug everybody
- 16:30wants from their mother. It's funny because The Adams
- 16:34Family are actually like really nice people with maybe the
- 16:38exception of Wednesday, but like The Addams Family looks creepy.
- 16:42But actually like nice people who like are giving back to
- 16:45society. They love great parties.
- 16:48They care about their family. They're just like you and me.
- 16:51They just were lots of black which I actually do.
- 16:54So, maybe I am an atom's. I think you are an atom's.
- 16:59I Think there's a Switched at Birth situation happening.
- 17:04You should you should go find your true family.
- 17:07So let's get into more tissues. Looks, I love her just whole
- 17:12aesthetic. Ruth Meyers wanted her in that
- 17:16kind of like, you know, thinking of them as aristocracy really
- 17:21wanted her to have that sense that like, she dresses multiple
- 17:26times a day. She has like a simpler.
- 17:30Day dress, something for the afternoon then something a
- 17:33little bit fancy at dinner and she's like, you know, by the
- 17:36evening, she's getting exotic with it.
- 17:41She was like, she needs to be a peacock, encrusted with like
- 17:45beautiful jewels and Lace, which I'm like, yes, yes, so good.
- 17:52And just like the way, the all four dresses like flow, like,
- 17:56there's just like a shadow trailing behind her with the
- 17:59lon. Honk like share hair just a
- 18:02flow. So perfectly.
- 18:05I feel warm and it's like even it there so much texture which I
- 18:11love and I found these pictures of the dress, I think from, like
- 18:18an auction house and it's like, there's so much going on here.
- 18:22It doesn't look like she has this many dresses, but 20
- 18:25dresses were created for Morticia in this film, which
- 18:29Insane to me because when you actually watch it, she changes a
- 18:33lot, but all of her dresses are so similar, which is what I
- 18:36love, right? That's like subtle details on
- 18:38each one but she's totally like that person like me who just
- 18:43like, opens up the wardrobe and everything's black.
- 18:46And you just kind of, like, pick something, but all kind of looks
- 18:49the same after a while. Yeah, that's what's happening
- 18:51here and I love that. It's totally what's happening
- 18:55here, but like she really puts a lot of thought into it, Ruth
- 18:59told. Old L that I use a lot of
- 19:01vintage brocade. I use a lot of vintage satin.
- 19:04I use some velvet, we did a lot of fortuny pleading on very
- 19:09fine. Chiffon for these sort of
- 19:11insertions I use a lot of vintage trim things were
- 19:14multiple multi-layered. The spider lace used on Morticia
- 19:20and Wednesdays gowns were also a rare vintage fine.
- 19:24So she like really thought about this because it's like the
- 19:28atoms. They Just look like a goth
- 19:31creepy. They like do look very like
- 19:34vintage, they do. They're very vintage.
- 19:36You know they've probably had a lot of these garments for a long
- 19:39time. It's not like you could go to a
- 19:42store nearby and just find all these like really McCobb looking
- 19:46to Black which E-Type you know dresses.
- 19:50So they probably had him for a long time.
- 19:53One of my favorites that she wears was actually like that
- 19:56hair dress that she wears. It's Just so cool.
- 20:00Like her hair, like Blends into this, it's so great.
- 20:04Just like wearing hair. It's definitely like human hair,
- 20:07very creepy, but yet like she's also very kind and soft and
- 20:14light hearted. It's just so great.
- 20:16It is great and I love this hair dress as well because it
- 20:20accentuates her silhouette, which the more torque more, the
- 20:25Morticia silhouette is very iconic.
- 20:28I would say, Like thin waist, big hips and she was like
- 20:34completely, you know, padded for her hips.
- 20:39They sensed her waist in pushed, you know her boobs up to get
- 20:44this very like specific silhouette roof said it was
- 20:49brutal but what came out of it was iconic and she never
- 20:52complained once. So, apparently like she could
- 20:56like barely walk which also gave her that like Like Glide e, walk
- 21:01because like she can only move so far in all of this.
- 21:05I love that so much and in the L article, apparently Meyers
- 21:11remembers that on the last day of shooting Anjelica Huston
- 21:16burned, the Wigan corset ceremoniously, like she was
- 21:20dying. I know that makes me so sad to
- 21:25hear. I mean, luckily, there's still
- 21:27other garments are saved but I'd be like Running and grabbing it
- 21:31out of the firehouse. I kind of get it though because
- 21:34she was probably like, I never complained.
- 21:36The least you can let me do is burn this.
- 21:38Yeah, I mean, now that I think of it she like barely moves in
- 21:41the movie, She's always standing.
- 21:43This is my favorite part of Morticia Addams and Anjelica
- 21:47Huston, portrayal is the silhouette.
- 21:49But then also that vision of light that always just guides
- 21:54across her eyes because they use a very like old-school Hollywood
- 21:58feel At like, all the acting takes place in the eyes.
- 22:03So when you look at Angelica Huston every time, she's like
- 22:06standing the lighting, she has her own lighting compared to
- 22:09every character. And there's always like this ray
- 22:12of light that just directs you right to her eyes.
- 22:15Yeah, it's so beautiful. But she's always standing in
- 22:18like one spot to so they could do that lighting as well.
- 22:21She's just standing right there. Giving you all the looks.
- 22:24It's just so good. Oh, yes.
- 22:27And I would say the Scene is a part place.
- 22:31You can really see that. Oh yeah.
- 22:34When she has that cloak on, this was another place.
- 22:37They really wanted to give her that sense of being beautiful
- 22:40and Regal and she wanted it to invoke like an Edwardian, like
- 22:45princess coronation feel. Yeah, that is my favorite
- 22:51costume of the film. I'll just say right now, it's
- 22:54the cloak. She wears in a graveyard.
- 22:56She's standing there with Fester.
- 22:58She's wearing a Cloak. And the like I'm guessing the
- 23:01moonlight just like glows upon her face.
- 23:05That's just my favorite look of the entire film.
- 23:08We could end it right there and I'd be happy.
- 23:10It's so good. So without saying, obviously all
- 23:14of these were, you know, exclusive pieces for the film
- 23:19one-offs. Another thing that was specially
- 23:22made for the film was all the jewelry.
- 23:24She wears Ruth wanted it to be kind of like a little bit
- 23:28Rudolph. And she wanted to feel like
- 23:31something you could get in like goth shops at the East Village.
- 23:36So they had these three rings and then these little hand
- 23:43Earrings made for the film yet. Heard jewelry is insane.
- 23:48And like, it always works out perfectly with her long, red,
- 23:52and black nails as well. Just like she thinks about her
- 23:56outfits every single day. She goes up.
- 23:59Stairs between like events of the day.
- 24:02Gets dressed puts on her favorite jewelry.
- 24:04Just the best. It's so good.
- 24:06It's great. Another great one is Gomez.
- 24:11Gomez actually is delivering lots of looks people.
- 24:15Always kind of just think of like that black and white suit
- 24:19but no, Gomez is serving looks all film.
- 24:22Gomez loves color and pattern, he can't get enough of it, I
- 24:27love the Plaid suit, he wears to the auction.
- 24:30Yeah, and then like that, that velvet red smoking jacket, he
- 24:33wears around the house. Oh gosh, right.
- 24:36Come on. That is great.
- 24:38I want to touch that velvet smoking jacket so bad.
- 24:42It's reddish but also kind of like it has a very purple Hue to
- 24:47it at the same time. Like that jacket is screaming my
- 24:51name. I want it so bad.
- 24:53I agree. I also love his love of velvet
- 24:56jackets because his like, his dressing-gown.
- 24:59Down with the matching hat in the morning.
- 25:03I'm just like yes. Gomez, you know how to go to
- 25:05bed. I just want to live there.
- 25:08I want to be a part of this family, and this is, these are
- 25:10my people. I just want to be wearing
- 25:13ridiculous amounts of velvet for no reason in the morning, right.
- 25:18And it's just like, he also knows how to have fun like with
- 25:21that train set where he's literally like, dressed up like
- 25:25a conductor, I'm like, what are you doing?
- 25:28He's taking out his anger. A train set, just great.
- 25:32I know to two characters who don't get quite.
- 25:36As many looks our granny and Lurch but I love their
- 25:40characters, especially granny, cause she's just like so
- 25:43eccentric for no reason. Her looks are crazy.
- 25:47It reminds me of it's just like a lots of layering.
- 25:51She gives me like really fortune teller type Vibes that you would
- 25:55see like you know and a typical amusement park ride or A
- 26:00carnival with fortune tellers, that's what I'm getting.
- 26:03Like, medium all the jewelry, lots of pattern and like the
- 26:07fingerless gloves us all so good.
- 26:10I love it all the jewelry, and that I love Lurch.
- 26:14He's just like the perfect Butler.
- 26:17Looks like the perfect Butler there, just like so happy with
- 26:20his Life Alert, just like the best best friend you could have,
- 26:24like, we all need a Lurch in our lives.
- 26:26He's just there, he loves his family, he loves his job, And he
- 26:30doesn't even speak. He just is, there is like mmmm,
- 26:34like loves his life, even when they lose the house.
- 26:37He's like, cool. I'm coming with you guys.
- 26:39Like I love you guys. So I love he tried and he tried
- 26:43taking one of the trees with them.
- 26:46I saw that. I was like kind of going through
- 26:48it today to find pictures. I was like, is he taking the
- 26:50tree with them? Definitely he's just a good guy,
- 26:55I love Lurch and his costume, I love it how he's like you know,
- 26:59you give Kind of that Frankenstein Vibe, but still
- 27:02like a classy Butler. Definitely, our next two
- 27:06All-Stars of this movie are Pugsley and Wednesday.
- 27:12Yes, there's so great, the perfect children and this is
- 27:17what I aspire to have one day to little goth children or in black
- 27:23and white so good. I did love how Pugsley is black
- 27:27and white stripes. Really kind of right.
- 27:29Up of the black we've seen so far.
- 27:33Yeah, that's definitely true. And that's kind of where they
- 27:36had that like, relief from seeing so much black and then
- 27:42with Wednesday. She really wanted her to have
- 27:46her own identity where it's kind of like okay you know, Morticia
- 27:50is definitely her mother but she is not Morticia the Wednesday
- 27:56and poke Lee's costumes were actually.
- 27:59So Sold at auction for about four thousand seven hundred
- 28:04eighty four dollars. That's it.
- 28:06Yeah, that's a lot though. For to children's costumes, I
- 28:11would have bought those put on after pay.
- 28:13Did you know a couple hundred dollars each month I want those
- 28:17costumes. Wow Come on auction houses.
- 28:21Why don't you reach out to me on that one too late lips?
- 28:24The too late. Um, I do love Wednesday's like
- 28:28look this Wasn't, I think another one of those vintage
- 28:32fabric finds, and I don't know what the I think.
- 28:35It's just like a random abstract pattern but to me, it looks like
- 28:40a bunch of safety pins that are open.
- 28:43And I'm like, ooh, so sharp very sharp, very pointy.
- 28:47And I also love how Wednesday's always rain like a nice
- 28:49sophisticated collar though. Like, she's very, oh yeah, put
- 28:53together another, another standout terms of character was
- 28:59more. Margaret all Ford.
- 29:01Yes, she's such a great character.
- 29:04She's such a great character because she starts out as just
- 29:07this very like frustrated housewife, with her like
- 29:11obnoxious green coat. Like I love the Plaid skirt with
- 29:17the blue velvet and like lacy bowtie.
- 29:21She's wearing. I'm like, you, you look like
- 29:25fun. But you're just like in the
- 29:26wrong life, girl, she's stunning.
- 29:29I Dana IV. I just love her face.
- 29:32It's just so interesting to me. She's beautiful and I love the
- 29:36character that she plays. You might recognize her from
- 29:39Home Alone 2, that's where I like, really got to know her.
- 29:43She's also a Legally Blond. She's also in Anna's family
- 29:47values which, you know, that's a great film which are probably
- 29:50going to end up talking about some point too.
- 29:52So don't go anywhere. I'm sure we'll be doing that
- 29:55maybe in the next season but Dana Dana IV plays Agra Alfred
- 30:00so great. I want to be her friend.
- 30:03We all want to be her friend but um you know, maybe we should
- 30:06take this this break right now and like reach out.
- 30:09See if you need some more friends.
- 30:11Oh yeah, doing, I'm gonna text her right now.
- 30:13Do you have her number? Yeah, that's something I just
- 30:15have lying around. Okay cool, let's talk about
- 30:18that. Are you ready for a child's
- 30:43play? I'm always ready for a child's
- 30:46play that involves lots of blood.
- 30:48So, let's do it. I love this scene because they
- 30:52come in looking, like they're going to like Broadway or
- 30:56something. It's so good, we're tissue Has
- 31:00wearing the best. Is she wearing fur?
- 31:02Probably just her outfit is just so stunning, but I love.
- 31:07I mean, Morticia is always stunning, but I love Gomez's
- 31:10black and white suit is just like that.
- 31:13Such iconic look for Gomez as well.
- 31:16It just works so well. I love it.
- 31:19The pinstripe suit with like, I don't want his Co almost looks
- 31:23like a robe. I'm like, why you got this
- 31:26Argyll robot? He's always in a comfy robes.
- 31:29I want like some comfy robes now, after watching this movie
- 31:33you deserve one Spencer but um thank you.
- 31:36I love Morticia in contrast to Wednesday's teacher who just has
- 31:42the most 90s Elementary School teacher.
- 31:46Look on the right like the wide leg tan pants with the like the
- 31:53big sleeve blouse and the leg brocade vest and the bow in her
- 31:57hair. I'm like oh my gosh, you were
- 31:5922. Totally different.
- 32:00People like Morticia is unfailingly polite with her.
- 32:05I know. Because Morticia is very polite,
- 32:08but yeah, it's almost like startling when you see the
- 32:11teacher you were so used to like Cena Adams Family, when anyone
- 32:14normal walks up, you like it, who is that?
- 32:17Why are they wearing a white blouse with flowers on it?
- 32:22I love this. And I love seeing all, just like
- 32:24the normal people, the like kids and their bright colored for
- 32:29there. Like flowers for their musical
- 32:32number. I know, that's even more
- 32:34startling is children dressed as flowers.
- 32:38I know, were you ever in any plays as a child?
- 32:42Yeah. Stuff like this.
- 32:45Like I'm at was mostly in plays in like high school and middle
- 32:49school. I was in a lot of like
- 32:52elementary school plays. We it was actually part of
- 32:54curriculum. We had to do on every year.
- 32:57I was actually cast as a lead one year.
- 32:59Not gonna like brag or anything. But I was detective Hargraves
- 33:04and a grammar and punctuation play.
- 33:07So grammars, and punctuation play, was that?
- 33:11Yeah, we were, we had to find like, we were like a looking for
- 33:16a missing like period or semicolon or something and we
- 33:22had to like speak to all the different parts of speech and
- 33:26stuff. And I was like, the Sherlock
- 33:29Holmes type a character. Oh my gosh.
- 33:34Spencer's parents! I if you have a video of this,
- 33:37please hold on. You don't want my cat out here.
- 33:40So demanding. I love that though.
- 33:46That's hilarious and I love the parents are just so excited.
- 33:52Oh, yeah, I love. I love.
- 33:53Everyone's like fake Smiles, as they're watching children plays.
- 33:57Like, this is such like a recognized Double part everyone
- 34:00goes to these plays. The singing is like, notably,
- 34:04awful and Aaron just smile, and his is nodding further kid, but
- 34:08The Adams Family, they are like, frowning, like the entire time,
- 34:12until their kids show up and Pugsley and Wednesday.
- 34:15I'm just like, how did your teacher let you do this?
- 34:20Oh man, i-it's so it's crazy, but they also like they're the
- 34:26best looking students there Wednesday and like her.
- 34:29Aggregate like Al Fateh the pink.
- 34:33Like sparkly Miss of it is like, so not her.
- 34:37But like so perfect for this scene and then Pugsley with,
- 34:41like the gold, like gloves, and just like, just putting like
- 34:46stuff over his shirt. I'm like, oh my God.
- 34:49So we're even a still wearing the black and white stripes
- 34:52though. Like, he's like this.
- 34:53Yes, my favorite shirt and I'm not taking it off or anything.
- 34:57I know I this like this. It's just a whole, the whole
- 35:01thing is wild, and I love the atoms.
- 35:04Are just like, they're so proud of their children, especially
- 35:07ones, all the Blood starts squirting out.
- 35:10Oh my gosh, they get up. I, I was even so proud.
- 35:15I mean, Gomez stands up, he's like bravo bravo.
- 35:19It's so good. You know, that I've always want
- 35:22to be a pageant Dad. This is my future or like a
- 35:28theater, dad of some For, okay, I've kind of gone away from
- 35:31pageants but it's not completely out of the question.
- 35:34Good, I'll settle for like a McCobb theater experience.
- 35:39Okay. I'm definitely going to be that
- 35:40cool. Aunt.
- 35:41That's like honey, if you don't want to do the pageants you
- 35:43don't have to Elizabeth, I have a bit of a surprise for you.
- 35:48I wrote down the lines from the play and I think you and I
- 35:51should. Yeah, I think we should tap into
- 35:54our theater days and give it all give the old razzle-dazzle and
- 35:59and I think you need to be Wednesday and I'll be Pugsley.
- 36:03I'm sorry. You get most of the lines but I
- 36:05just know that you'll do a better Wednesday.
- 36:08Okay. Just get into it.
- 36:10Give it your best. All the emotion, the choking and
- 36:12everything. See it.
- 36:14My pageant dad's coming in already.
- 36:16You can do it, honey. All right, let's see.
- 36:21How All Occasions do inform against me and spur.
- 36:25My dull Revenge. Oh, from this time forth.
- 36:28My thoughts be bloody or nothing?
- 36:30Worth. If I must strike you dead I will
- 36:34hit a very palpable hit. Oh, proud death.
- 36:40What is toward in thine eternal cell?
- 36:44Sweet Oblivion, open your arms. I can't believe you.
- 36:51Just maybe do that bravo. Bravo Elizabeth.
- 36:56I was brilliant. Oh my gosh.
- 36:59You have to get back into the theater.
- 37:01Okay, let's move on Daniel one that starts.
- 37:05You need to play like some dramatic music in the
- 37:07background. Absolutely, that needs to
- 37:10happen. Okay, continue.
- 37:12Well, after a little theater experience, what's better than a
- 37:17ball? Oh, We have another ball.
- 37:20It's like every other episode for us it seems like but we love
- 37:23a good ball. We've gotta Addams, Family ball
- 37:27this time and everyone looks ridiculously amazing.
- 37:34Like I love their cousin. Who's dancing with a Wednesday?
- 37:39I'm just like, who are you? Why do you look like so good in
- 37:43this suit? Insane, insane.
- 37:47I don't know if you could call that dancing, I mean, it's just
- 37:49essentially torturing Wednesday by just like shaking her back
- 37:52and forth. He's definitely torturing
- 37:55Wednesday and I love it because Ruth said she had a mini
- 38:01Morticia dress for this fall sequence and at.
- 38:04That's so right. Like it's exactly more tisha's
- 38:08like iconic dress. Oh, that's so good.
- 38:11Like even the sleeves which we have already talked about as
- 38:14much like sleeves are so typical Morticia Wednesday looks just
- 38:18like her mother. Sir, she's so proud.
- 38:20Just like her mother after seeing this.
- 38:23I'm like, okay, next live-action reboot of this, Christina Ricci
- 38:28needs to be Morticia Addams. Oh, that would be cool.
- 38:31Wouldn't that be amazing Pugsley?
- 38:34Looks insane. I love pugs these little outfit
- 38:38because I love like the white lace.
- 38:41It's kind of feminine to me which is why I think I love it
- 38:44so much. It's very chic, like, good job
- 38:46Pugsley. You're looking great, I love it.
- 38:48He looks so great. Goes, Gomez looks great.
- 38:52I love his yet again. Another fabulous smoking jacket.
- 38:55Oh yeah. Also another great one is cousin
- 38:59it. Oh my gosh, I was laughing so
- 39:03hard cousin it arrives in such style heeda is Ryan.
- 39:07Just like the little hat with the spider web pattern on.
- 39:11It shows up his car bumping music and he's ready to party.
- 39:15He is so ready to party and he makes a little A little love
- 39:19connection. Oh yeah, they are great.
- 39:22Couple they are a great couple. I love her cousin.
- 39:25It shows up and he's like, ready to like start speaking to the
- 39:29ladies, you know, I know he knows he has something to offer
- 39:34and he's not afraid to put it out there.
- 39:37He says, he sees Margaret Alfred, and he's like, oh yeah,
- 39:42that's where it's going tonight. He's like, I know you.
- 39:45You are the one for me and another guy.
- 39:49Addition at this party is flora and fauna.
- 39:53Uh-huh. Yeah.
- 39:54I love their dress was so beautiful.
- 39:58They're looking quite ravishing, actually as Morticia said, they
- 40:02are twice the woman she could ever be.
- 40:05Gomez says, I can't see I'm blinded by such a beauty.
- 40:11I just love how kind they are. They're the best, they know how
- 40:16to give a compliment. They know how to give a
- 40:18compliment. Compliment the two of them like
- 40:21they look so good but also like I just love how their match he
- 40:24match. I guess they have no choice but
- 40:26to be matchy match but like I think it's even with the hair.
- 40:29I think it's like so adorable. It's so brilliant.
- 40:33I just think like every single person at this ball.
- 40:35This is why Ruth was nominated for an Oscar.
- 40:39I mean cuz everyone at this ball has such interesting beautiful
- 40:43but still like McCobb costumes you know, very goth but still
- 40:47stunning. I Different than the ball we saw
- 40:50in Emma a couple months ago. Oh, yes.
- 40:53Very different than that ball. Yeah.
- 40:56I love just all the different people like, you see?
- 40:58Like it. What looks like Brides dancing
- 41:01around? Like just everyone that you
- 41:06would think would be at a creepy ball.
- 41:08Also, shout-out the conductor, whoever decided he was going to
- 41:14have that those like eyebrows and beard.
- 41:17I love it. I love Him, even though you see
- 41:19him for like, two seconds. Brilliant.
- 41:23That's time. Elizabeth to dance the Mamushka.
- 41:26I'm almost God. I love how Gomez did an entire
- 41:31wardrobe change for this dress for this dance.
- 41:35Oh yeah, he said this is the dance.
- 41:37Everyone knows and loves I'm gonna go get changed real quick.
- 41:40We're about to give these people a show.
- 41:42I also love how this is one of the first places, like Fester is
- 41:45getting his memories back because he's like it, Use me,
- 41:50what are you talking about? But then he just knows exactly
- 41:52what to do. I guess she knows every single
- 41:55dance move. The flipping the sword
- 41:58swallowing or knives, whatever so fun.
- 42:01But I think, I wonder if what start to trigger it was when
- 42:05Gomes, headbutt, Fester, that kind of, like, knock some sense
- 42:09into him. Oh, oh, I think so.
- 42:13I think you cracked it, Spencer, I think I did.
- 42:16I think that's it. I think you cracked.
- 42:18Cracked it. And I also love Fester right
- 42:21here because you rarely see him out of his like, gigantic
- 42:26overcoat and here. He looks so good.
- 42:30So nice on him. It's very like decorated
- 42:33embellished, some like hints of gold to it.
- 42:36He's coming in as like the leader of this great grand
- 42:42family, you know, everyone. So attracted to him to love is
- 42:47that like Fester is like Ridiculous looking so like
- 42:50creepy. Like, But like everyone thinks
- 42:53he's so smooth and sexy, you know, I love it.
- 42:59I think we should do right now, some shout outs to the humans.
- 43:04They are forced to interact with when they get kicked out of
- 43:07their home. Oh my gosh, right.
- 43:10Like suddenly we're like surrounded by.
- 43:12This is very 90s palette of human beings that were not used
- 43:17to seeing. Now all of a sudden, And it
- 43:19feels like all of a sudden were watching just like any 90's
- 43:21movie on VHS, you know, I know I love just like the stupid girl
- 43:26scowl and all of like her green are they made of real girl
- 43:31scouts. That's what my favorite lines,
- 43:35but it's all good. I was a Girl Scout and
- 43:37Elementary School and people would like say that to me when I
- 43:42was like selling cookies and I'd like never knew what they were
- 43:45talking about because I had not seen this movie.
- 43:50You're like why is that a funny joke?
- 43:52I don't understand. Yeah, I was like, this doesn't
- 43:56make sense but okay and I just, I love how rude she is about the
- 44:01real lemons and then is like I'll buy that if you buy this
- 44:04and it's like those cookies are way more expensive than that
- 44:08glass of lemonade. Yeah, it's nonstop.
- 44:12I also love the woman who's like talking to Morticia about
- 44:16finding her job because This is 1991.
- 44:20So this was probably films and like, what 1990, maybe even 89.
- 44:25So like the 80s have not like really officially ended.
- 44:30And that really kind of shows on this woman, especially like she
- 44:33has the power jacket with the shoulder pads, the big 80s hair,
- 44:38the 80s hasn't died yet. At this point.
- 44:41No, no. And I love how like bright and
- 44:44colorful, she is 0 and then the makeup too.
- 44:48It's just Like, very typical like woman at work, like and
- 44:54Morticia is just there in one of her beautiful gowns like, oh, I
- 44:59majored in hexes, and Witchcraft.
- 45:02Okay. So liberal are, that's literally
- 45:08me when I'm talking about my degree in fashion design.
- 45:14I love like Morticia is just saying the most ridiculous.
- 45:18Things to her, but she's like, I've heard it all before and
- 45:22just like translates it into what would help her get a job.
- 45:26This is so brilliant. And then Morticia is just
- 45:31reading a bedtime story. I guess to a group full of
- 45:35these, adorably dress children. So cute.
- 45:39They're all. So cute.
- 45:40But also like, yeah, I do kind of see like a late 80s 90s 5 to
- 45:45each of their costumes though, you know, lots of color.
- 45:48Parking lots of bright colors like that compare and contrast
- 45:53between the children and Morticia is a chef's kiss.
- 45:58It is Chef scarce. But on you know, they struggle
- 46:02in the outside world but they get their home back just in
- 46:05time, for Halloween. Oh my gosh.
- 46:09I just have to say one of the most horrific parts of this
- 46:11movie was Gomez watching TV and eating snacks.
- 46:15I mean that was scary, that was sad.
- 46:17That was like this. Was truly a man who has lost his
- 46:21place in the world and doesn't know what to do.
- 46:23Now he is broken but things work out.
- 46:28You know, the family gets in and fights off fester and his evil
- 46:33Hep helpers which eventually brings out a Memories Back to
- 46:36fester. And he actually is the real
- 46:39Fester. He is the real Fester,
- 46:42everyone's excited. Has Alfred her husband said.
- 46:45Now, she is with a and I love She's like, Glinda, the Good
- 46:50Witch and he's just like a random Cowboy.
- 46:53Hey, because it shows up and like a little sparkly Cowboy
- 46:58outfit. It's so good cousin.
- 47:00It is the fashion icon of this movie like, watch out Morticia
- 47:05truly. But I do love Gomez and Morticia
- 47:08because they're like, we're holiday.
- 47:10We're Halloween every single day of the year.
- 47:13So they don't need to change what?
- 47:14They're wearing know that we're the same thing.
- 47:17If anything go mrs. Put Jean like one of his
- 47:19favorite smoking jackets. Yeah.
- 47:22I have to say one of my biggest fears, it's like being buried
- 47:26alive. So that part kind of creeped me
- 47:28out when they're just like, are they dead?
- 47:31And Wednesday was like doesn't matter.
- 47:32I was like that was some dark writing right there, I know.
- 47:36But then I love when they are dressed up for Halloween and
- 47:40it's like, super cute Pugsley is, you know, dressed up as
- 47:43Uncle Fester because he's just so excited that he's back and
- 47:49What are you dear? I'm a homicidal maniac.
- 47:52They look like everybody else and it's like, you know, I think
- 47:55you just admitted to the fact that you are a homicidal Mania.
- 47:59I mean, she fully just buried two people in the cemetery who
- 48:03are probably still alive. Well, it's been like 7 months
- 48:06now, murdered Danny. Yeah, no, but they were alive
- 48:09when they were buried with just creepy but I love how Pugsley
- 48:13just like looks up to his uncle so hard, you know, he's like, I
- 48:18Want to be you for Halloween, because I admire you and that's
- 48:22great. That's what Halloween's all
- 48:24about is, like dressing up as a people.
- 48:26We admire yes. And that brings us to the end of
- 48:30The Addams Family, such a good run.
- 48:33I'm so glad at first, you know, we, we just finished spooky
- 48:37season about that long ago, and now we're moving into the
- 48:39holidays. So when you were like, we're
- 48:41watching The Addams Family, I was like, this feels wrong, but
- 48:47it did start. A holiday type feel and it's the
- 48:5035th Anniversary and I'm so glad we watched.
- 48:53It was so good. It was so fun.
- 48:55I know I loved it. This is like a new favorite
- 48:58movie of mine. I've only ever seen the second
- 49:00one, and I've just like changed my entire thinking, on a family.
- 49:04You gotta see both of them. You've got to see both of them.
- 49:08This first one is definitely the kind of movie though where
- 49:11you're like I want to watch a holiday movie but I don't want
- 49:14to watch a holiday movie. This is the kind of movie you
- 49:17put on you put It on The Addams Family, I just keep thinking
- 49:21about Morticia and that lay across her eyes.
- 49:24I know, so beautiful. All the detail that Ruth Meyers
- 49:28put into everything that it's like, it's so hard to see
- 49:32because everything is black, but it makes such an impact.
- 49:36What? Like the texture, the like
- 49:39everything she put into them. It's so beautiful.
- 49:43It's so great. It's just so much detailed
- 49:45people. It's not easy to do like
- 49:47designing. And almost all black, you know
- 49:50or In This Very Gothic sense of thinking.
- 49:53So Props to Ruth, it was brilliant, so good.
- 49:59It was truly excellent. Elizabeth next week is our
- 50:04season finale. I know.
- 50:07Irene that's crazy. It's insane.
- 50:11This is absolutely insane. I've had so much fun.
- 50:16I will spray a little bit emotional.
- 50:17This is about self. So fun, I can't believe this
- 50:20season is coming to an end and we are ending.
- 50:22I think with the greatest movie to end a costume podcast on, I
- 50:28agree. Everybody.
- 50:30Next week, we are watching the soon-to-be-released house of
- 50:37Gucci. Father, the Son and the house of
- 50:41Gucci. I'm stoked.
- 50:44I know. Spencer is going to be in his
- 50:46happy place. I mean I love a fashion movie
- 50:51but I am a Lady Gaga's. Stan.
- 50:53I've been chasing Lady Gaga ever since she released her first
- 50:58album so we are going into a very happy place for me.
- 51:03Lady Gaga. Adam Driver.
- 51:06A story of one of the most famous fashion brands in the
- 51:09world. What could be better?
- 51:12This is going to be so fun. I'm so excited.
- 51:15I hope you'll join us for a season finale so Everybody if
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- 51:58the best in costume design. I um, I like started getting
- 52:26flashbacks while doing this to high school because in high
- 52:31school, I took a sorry. My mom just texted me, something
- 52:37weird. I took a Broadway.
- 52:41It was like, called Broadway dance class.
- 52:23I um, I like started getting flashbacks while doing this to
- 52:28high school because in high school, I took a sorry.
- 52:36My mom just texted me, something weird.
- 52:39I took a Broadway. It was like, called Broadway
- 52:42dance class.