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Apparently I'm Evil: Conflict in a Spiritual Space 🔮 · The Psychic Explorer

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  Good morning, good afternoon, good evening you
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  wonderful explorers wherever you are in the world
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  Welcome to the psychic explorer. I really hope
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  you are doing well my friends I don't want to
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  be that stereotypical Brit that gives you a weather
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  forecast every time you tune in but my god It
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  is so hot. We are currently experiencing an unprecedented
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  heat wave in the UK in London at the moment it
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  is about 40 degrees that is i think 104 for the
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  american listeners and i know for the australian
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  listeners that is probably nothing to you but
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  believe you me when you do not have air conditioning
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  when we are just not equipped for this sort of
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  weather it is crazy i've worked about three four
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  hours this morning in my gardening job and i
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  got to about 12 o 'clock and i was like no i'm
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  done i can't i can't i can't work in this heat
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  it was just like being under i don't know a heat
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  lamp it was just crazy so yeah i thought this
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  afternoon uh my partner and i we we went to a
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  little pub by the Broads which is close to us
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  and i dipped my feet into the water Oh, it was
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  so refreshing, so lovely. And we came back about
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  an hour ago and I thought, right, let's go upstairs
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  and do some recording. Let's talk about an experience
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  that I have had. My word was this an experience.
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  And before I do, I just want to... caveat this
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  episode that this episode is not a bitching session.
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  This episode is not a dramatic rehashing of they
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  said this and I said that and they said this
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  and then I said that. I'm not interested in that,
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  but I do feel there needs to be some sort of
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  context around this. For those of you who follow
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  me on TikTok, Facebook and Instagram, you may
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  have seen a recent video that I've released about
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  an experience that I have had just the other
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  night, actually. So I will just recap on that,
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  but Rest assured, this episode is more about
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  what that experience taught me, how I felt before,
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  during and after that experience and how I intend
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  to go forward. The whole point of the psychic
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  explorer is to share with you, my dear listeners,
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  my real, raw and honest lived experience of moving
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  into the mediumship and psychic world. And it's
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  not always rainbows and angels. There is a...
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  I was tempted to use the phrase darker side but
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  that implies something much more demonic than
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  what this situation was. But there certainly
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  is a shadow side to it and on Sunday I experienced
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  that for the first time. So today's episode is
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  relevant but it's more about an experience of
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  what can happen and types of people that may
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  be out there, or rather the types of people that
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  are out there. And just a heads up that they
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  are out there. So to give you guys context, I
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  have been putting together, and I haven't spoken
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  about it yet on the podcast because, well, it's
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  just logistics. The episodes that have gone out
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  have been recorded or were recorded before I
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  put this all together and before it's all gone
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  live. So this is the first recording I've done.
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  after I'm comfortable with where this thing is.
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  And this thing that I've been putting together
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  is Sunday and Wednesday or Wednesday and Sunday
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  Explorers. It is a free online Zoom room, which
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  if you want to come along, dear, dear listener,
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  you are more than welcome. You will find the
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  details in the show notes. And this is a free
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  practice space for mediums, psychics, people
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  who read tarot or Oracle cards. a place for people
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  to practice. On Sundays, it's about an hour and
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  15 minutes long. And on Wednesdays, it's about
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  two hours long. Starts at 7:15 PM UK time. And
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  it's been so lovely to see my UK circle people
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  and my US circle people. come together in the
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  same environment. For me, it's quite surreal
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  because I'm seeing these two very important parts
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  or these two very important social groups coming
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  together. It's always a bit strange and nerve
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  -racking when that happens. I've been very conscious
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  to highlight that this is not a teaching space.
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  I do not teach, A, I am not at that level, and
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  B, I don't have the inclination to. that is not
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  where I'm at and that's not where I think I want
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  to go. So all I ask when people come to this
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  space is that they respect one another, that
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  we are all at different stages of our development
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  and to hold space for that and to respect that.
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  And as the facilitator of this group, the responsibility
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  is not overwhelming, but it is a big responsibility
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  to make sure that people are put together in
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  a safe way. that the rules of the group, the
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  respect of the group are adhered to. Not only
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  when I first started using Zoom for this space
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  was I getting myself used to how to put people
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  into breakout rooms, how to share music and sound,
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  how to mute and unmute people, how to operate
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  the waiting room, all the technical, logistical
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  stuff. Going back to my TikTok video. The "performance"
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  in the verti-commas is one thing, but the
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  learning to use the actual media, the platform,
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  is quite another. Then there's the promotion.
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  There's the using Canva to try and put a flyer,
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  an online flyer together that looks like something
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  that I have genuinely put a lot of time and effort
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  into producing to make sure it's not too woo
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  -woo, to make sure it reflects my brand and something
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  that I am comfortable with putting out there.
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  and trying to find different groups that I feel
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  happy advertising in and putting it into. And
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  then, of course, there is the human side of things.
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  How do you manage people? How do you try and
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  manage the time? How do you try and make sure
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  that people aren't given too much away so that
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  when other people read for them, they don't know
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  the information that they're giving during their
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  validation? There's a whole lot of stuff. You
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  know when I went into Dana or Mat Tow groups
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  and their circles I didn't even think about it.
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  I just turned up I did it and I went home not
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  even a second thought I have so much respect
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  So much respect for people that hold these spaces
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  because it is not easy guys It really isn't but
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  it's my choice to do it and that's all good.
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  I'm happy to do it I love putting it on And I
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  love the community that is building and it is
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  coming from it. The question is, though, what
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  happens when someone comes into that group that
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  disrupts the energy? Back in episode 14, I think
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  it was episode 14 when my face to face circle
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  leader Nicola Ghigi said that it's really important
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  to manage the energy and it's down to the circle
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  leader to manage that energy. And I always took
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  that on board that has rung through my ears since
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  the first moment I started putting this space
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  together and I wondered what would happen if
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  someone came into that space and was disruptive
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  or was doing something which I didn't think was
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  ethical or just just wasn't comfortable with
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  the group. What I'm about to say here folks is
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  not a rehashing of an argument. I don't want
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  to play that game, I don't want to be that dramatic,
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  but I do feel it's important to give you the
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  background and what happened in a non -dramatic
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  way, or as much of a non -dramatic way as I can,
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  to just describe my experience. This certain
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  person came in, they came in for a few weeks,
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  and on the first session I clocked that I wasn't
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  comfortable with their interaction with people,
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  shall we say, but I thought, you know what, I'm
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  just learning this. This person is coming from
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  outside of my group. I don't know them, they're
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  brand new. Let's just see how it goes. And they
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  came in a few times and each time I had feedback
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  that this person was not someone who made reading
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  for and reading with a comfortable experience.
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  The whole point of my space is that it should
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  be, and these are the rules that I say at the
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  beginning of almost every session. We need to
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  have respect for one another. Respect for where
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  each person is within their development. You
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  might be with someone who is at the beginning
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  of their journey. You might be with someone who
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  is five, six, ten years into their journey. Let's
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  have respect for where people are. And the overwhelming
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  feedback that I was getting was that this person
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  was not having that respect. And I saw it a few
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  times. Now, as I say, this is my baby. This is
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  my brand new thing that I am putting a lot of
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  energy and a lot of effort into. And this person
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  was being argumentative. And one of the things
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  that we are taught in mediumship is self -development.
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  Mediumship is 90 % self -development. You need
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  to look into yourself. You need to look at where
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  you are in your life. What are your traumas?
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  What are your issues? Because the more you can
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  get, not over, but the more you understand those
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  and the more you can get past those, the more
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  your mediumship will sing, will rise. And I think
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  there's so much in that, really, because as I
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  said on this podcast, as I said on Kelsey Anderson's
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  podcast, it's amazing - "Reclamation" if you haven't
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  heard that, go and see, go and listen to her,
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  my episode on her podcast. But when, the better
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  we understand ourselves, the better we understand
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  each other and the better we're able to understand
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  and interpret the messages and the signals that
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  we are being given from beyond, whatever that
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  means to you. It was very clear to me that for
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  as long as this person has been doing mediumship
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  for, or rather for as long as this person said
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  that they have been doing mediumship for, there
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  probably was more growth to do within themselves.
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  And that's fine. That is absolutely fine. However,
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  as a facilitator, I need to make sure that other
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  people are safe. I need to make sure that other
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  people are not made to feel uncomfortable and
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  that this space is supportive, that this space
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  is somewhere that you can fall flat on your face.
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  and not be picked up on it and not be made to
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  feel like you should have done better. And the
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  feedback I was getting was that that is not what
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  this person was doing, especially in the one
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  on one breakout rooms. It was it was not great
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  feedback that I had had. So this was something
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  new to me. This was not an experience that I
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  had to deal with with my mediumship or as far
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  as my mediumship is concerned. This was not a
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  case of I need to change the way that I practice
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  rather. It was about me and how I handle things
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  as a host, as a leader, as that facilitator.
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  What I realized in that moment, and I don't mean
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  to sound pompous, I really don't, but what I've
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  really noticed in that moment was just how important
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  my instinct to protect the group, to protect
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  other people and to hold integrity. I realized
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  just how important that was to me and I knew
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  I had to deal with it. I knew this person was
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  not able to come back into the space. And you
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  know what? As much as that made me feel slightly
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  awkward, I was happy with that. I was happy with
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  that decision, the decision that I had come to.
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  So this person keeps trying to come into the
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  room. When you come into the space, you're placed
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  into a waiting room where you're told the general
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  details and the timings and the general rules.
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  and then I can admit people when they come in.
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  Now I have, as the host, I have the ability to
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  admit or not admit people. I didn't have this
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  person's email because this person doesn't use
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  an email to log in to Zoom. So... Whenever they
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  came in to the waiting room, I couldn't go and
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  speak to them separately because I had a group
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  of people already there waiting to start the
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  session. So I couldn't do that. So instead what
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  I did was send them a message in the waiting
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  room, a private message in the waiting room.
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  Unfortunately, this person did not see that for
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  several weeks and they didn't see it. They kept
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  coming and trying to get in for several weeks.
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  Each time I just sent them the message and waited
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  for them to go. I presume they weren't really
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  in because they kept trying to enter the room.
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  Now on Sunday, well by the time that this goes
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  out, Sunday two weeks ago, I saw someone come
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  in with a different name and of course I didn't
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  know who they were so I just admitted them and
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  it was this person. So I carried on as normal.
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  I thought it's fine, okay, it's fine, it's all
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  good. And interestingly enough, a person messaged
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  me afterwards and said when they saw this person
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  come into the room, they were like, oh God, please
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  don't put me with this person. And that is the
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  level we're at. In these sessions I put people
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  on one -on -one breakout rooms because I think
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  it's really important to be able to practice
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  your mediumship one -on -one. Many practice groups,
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  the format is a general platform style. So people
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  go into the group, into the room and it's many
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  many people in the room and when you feel that
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  you want to give a reading, you put your virtual
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  hand up and you give your reading in a platform
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  environment. I like that, but I do feel that
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  these practice sessions are missing a one -on
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  -one element, and that is what I like to try
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  and give in my spaces. So once I'd paired everyone
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  up and put them into their breakout rooms, I
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  made sure that I put him with me in a separate
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  breakout room. I was not going to do this publicly.
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  I wanted to be as professional as I could, and
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  I did this as privately as I could. So I put
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  us into a separate breakout room, just us. Yeah,
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  and... I asked them how they were and went, tried
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  to make it as polite as possible. And I said
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  to them that I've been trying to reach out to
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  them, but I don't think that they were getting
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  the messages. And they said, no, I've received
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  no message. And I said, okay, I have tried, I
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  have received feedback from several people that
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  when they are reading with you, the readings
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  that they give you and the readings that they
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  get back and the feedback and the validation.
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  are very uncomfortable. And before I could even
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  finish my sentence, he launched off in a tirade,
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  a really angry tirade, telling me that I was
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  an evil person, that I was horrible, that the
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  space that I provide is a negative space, and
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  that that is the reason that this person couldn't
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  get a connection with spirit, because his spirit
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  team were withholding information because he
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  knew, he knew that I was an evil person. and
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  that is why he couldn't get connection and that
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  his spirit team didn't want to give me a message
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  or didn't want to give a message within my platform
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  because it was not a safe, it was not a nice
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  environment. The second that he started that,
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  I knew I was validated in not allowing him into
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  the space and from protecting other people in
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  my space from him. He went off and told me he
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  was going to destroy my name, that he knew loads
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  of different people in the area, or rather in
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  the community, and that he was going to destroy
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  my name, drag my name through mud, and kept repeating
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  that I was an evil, evil person. I was so proud
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  of myself because I kept my composure. I was
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  trying to just be as calm as possible. I explained
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  to him that I needed to protect people if they
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  felt uncomfortable with this reader. I'm sorry
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  that he felt that way, but I needed to protect
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  my group of people. I know I'm overusing the
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  word space, so I apologize. I'll try and refrain
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  from using it from this moment forth. And I felt
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  sick. My heart was pumping so hard. I swear it
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  was going to burst out of my chest. I was so
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  full of fight or flight adrenaline. I didn't
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  know what to do with myself because this person
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  was just on a screen. He was saying that he was
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  recording the entire conversation and that he
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  was going to spread it everywhere and tell everyone
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  how terrible the person that I was. I was expecting
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  this at some point from someone. I was expecting
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  confrontation. You don't go into mediumship.
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  You can't go into mediumship and thinking it's
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  going to be fluffy bunnies and unicorns. and
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  everyone's sunshine, light and rainbows, because
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  they just don't exist. You only have to be on
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  TikTok for five seconds to realize that there
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  are people out there trying to troll people.
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  And that's, unfortunately, it's part of the game.
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  It's part of the business. It's just part of
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  it. And you know, I love skeptics. That's fine.
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  And that's where I thought it was going to come
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  from. I thought it was going to come from some
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  Christian zealot. who was going to tell me that
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  I was channeling demons and the devil and that
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  I was going to go to hell because I was talking
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  to Lucifer or whatever it might be. That's where
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  I was expecting this to come from. Not from someone
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  within our own community, within my, well, within
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  this community. I've got several communities,
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  but within this community. I was glad it happened.
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  It was really uncomfortable. and I knew that
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  I had done the right thing because you are not
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  a spiritual person or at least in my books you
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  are not as spiritual as that person thought they
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  were if they are going to threaten to drag someone
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  else's name through the mud because of feedback
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  that person has given them off the back of my
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  personal observation and feedback I'd had from
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  people within the group. It wasn't nice. I felt
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  sick. I knew I couldn't do any readings. From
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  that session, normally I put myself into a group
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  to participate. I couldn't. I just sat back,
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  let everyone else do their stuff, and I just
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  managed the room from behind the scenes after
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  they logged out. It was a great lesson. I'm still
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  not entirely sure what the lesson is, apart from
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  learning that this is going to happen to all
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  of us sooner or later. I'm sure everyone listening
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  to this, if you are developing, and this is not
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  to put anyone off because, you know, it happens,
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  but we're all going to come across people like
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  this. We're going to come across people we like
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  and people we don't like, people we get on with,
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  people we don't get on with. And just because
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  we are all channeling spirit, because we are
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  mediums and we are developing psychics and whatever
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  else label you want to put onto it, does not
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  mean we are all singing from the same hymn sheet.
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  There are some people out there who have got
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  an ego to feed. And I'm just glad that it put,
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  you know what, that's just what it is. This is
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  what it is. It put my principles to the test.
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  I could have just let it carry on because I was
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  too afraid of confrontation. And I don't like
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  confrontation, but when I see injustices in the
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  world, in my day -to -day life, when I see things
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  are not right, I do call them out. I do. It's
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  my duty as a human being to make my environment
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  better, to call out the shit when I see it. And
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  I did the same here, and I'm so glad that I did,
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  because it means that I have. I like to think...
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  And I hope it is felt within my group, within
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  Sunday and Wednesday explorers that it is a safe
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  space, that it's somewhere for people to come.
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  And if they do make a mistake, as we all do,
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  if they don't give a reading as well as they
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  had hoped that it is taken in good grace. and
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  a lesson is learned from that experience. In
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  an environment where they're not going to be
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  belittled, in an environment where they're not
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  going to be made to feel silly. Going back to
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  what I said a minute ago about the perception
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  of the spiritual community of being love, light
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  and rainbows. We are human. Everyone who participates
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  in this art, because I believe it is an art,
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  is human. And with that comes wounds come baggage.
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  And just because someone is channeling love,
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  light and rainbows does not necessarily mean
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  that that person doing the channeling is healed
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  from their wounds. And it doesn't mean that when
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  you confront them about how they make other people
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  feel as graceful as you can try and deliver that
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  does not mean that they are going to receive
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  that with the grace you have tried to deliver
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  it in. So today's episode is not all about my
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  mediumship. It is not about readings. It is not
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  about my self -doubt. In fact, if anything, this
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  episode is about the certainty I had when so
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  often in this world, on this path, I have experienced
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  self -doubt. I felt certainty that I was doing
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  the right thing in protecting other people in
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  that group again. at risk of overusing, using
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  that word again, other people in that space,
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  protecting them from someone, from an energy.
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  And I don't mean that as in negative connotations
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  that that may have, but protecting them from
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  that vibe so that everyone can practice in safety.
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  I hope all that makes sense, and I really hope
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  that this episode does not come across as a mud
• 23:09
  -slinging episode. That is not my intention.
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  You know, I wish this person well. I wish this
• 23:16
  person positivity in their development. And I
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  guess, you know, what is the purpose of this?
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  What's the moral of the story? Well, the moral
• 23:23
  of the story, I guess, is that we're not always
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  going to come across people in this community
• 23:27
  who are on our wavelength. We're all different.
• 23:30
  Like I say, we're all human, so... Just that
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  really. Like I say, I hope all that makes sense.
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  It's just a reflection of my recent experience
• 23:40
  that I have had. And I hope that goes some way
• 23:44
  to revealing the honesty of what is out there.
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  So yeah. If you've come across something like
• 23:53
  this, I'd love to hear about it. Not in a gossipy
• 23:56
  way, but I'd love to know. I know I'm not alone.
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  I've had people message me already saying, this
• 24:03
  is common. If I've had one good friend that's
• 24:07
  messaged me after this and saying to me that
• 24:10
  some of the worst people that they have met have
• 24:15
  been from the so -called spiritual people because
• 24:18
  the ego gets in the way and it is that ego and
• 24:23
  yeah I'm very conscious when I do this that I
• 24:27
  don't want my ego to get in the way but I think
• 24:30
  I'm going to use this as an example. to prove
• 24:33
  that that is not my case, that I do care and
• 24:37
  it's not all about me, that it's about other
• 24:39
  people as well. If you are interested in coming
• 24:43
  to Wednesday and Sunday explorers after all that
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  I promise you it's a lovely environment it is
• 24:49
  safe and if you want to practice your mediumship
• 24:53
  if you want to practice your psychic abilities
• 24:54
  if you want to practice your tarot or your oracle
• 24:58
  card readings this is a really lovely environment
• 25:01
  to do it in an opportunity for you to maybe read
• 25:04
  for people who come from different parts of the
• 25:07
  world from yourself I said in the New Year's
• 25:10
  episode back in January or was it December, end
• 25:13
  of December, beginning of January that this year
• 25:15
  I was going to try and practice, practice, practice
• 25:17
  and yeah this is just a space to do that. So
• 25:20
  if you are feeling like you would like to practice,
• 25:22
  if you are feeling like you would like to practice
• 25:27
  in a safe environment then do come along. Follow
• 25:30
  me on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok for notifications
• 25:36
  to when it's on and where to find it. If you
• 25:39
  follow me on Instagram, normally on the day of
• 25:43
  the session of the practice circle, I put a story
• 25:46
  up and it has a direct link so you can access
• 25:48
  it directly. Otherwise, you can find the meeting
• 25:52
  code and the passcode on the flyers that I've
• 25:55
  put out digitally, and you can also look in the
• 25:58
  podcast notes. show notes below this episode
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  for direct links as well. Guys, thank you so
• 26:04
  much for listening I really appreciate your time
• 26:06
  today. The next episode is with the marvellous
• 26:10
  Meli Guidance. We are going across the pond
• 26:12
  yet again, but this time we're going north of
• 26:14
  the border. We're going to Canada. And Meli
• 26:17
  Guidance specializes and focuses in the Akashic
• 26:20
  records and past -life psychic readings. So it's
• 26:24
  a very interesting, slightly sidestep for me,
• 26:28
  but very interesting conversation which I really
• 26:31
  hope you will enjoy. But until then, I am sending
• 26:34
  you all my love. Take care, guys. Bye.