Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #113: Yet another example of the deadly consequences of letting dangerous criminals go free on bail.   Also, a Milwaukee Judge refuses to do anything to a guy who makes 600 threatening calls from jail.  And, a whistleblower exposes how the CIA aided Fauci by lying about the origins of Covid.

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Mark Belling Podcast #113: Yet another example of the deadly consequences of letting dangerous criminals go free on bail.   Also, a Milwaukee Judge refuses to do anything to a guy who makes 600 threatening calls from jail.  And, a whistleblower exposes how the CIA aided Fauci by lying about the origins of Covid. · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: The Consequences of a lenient criminal justice System. I've talked
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  Speaker 2: about this issue for decades. The most effective way of
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  Speaker 2: illustrating it is to take actual cases. Now, we have
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  Speaker 2: So what I'm going to do here is pull out
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  Speaker 2: holds up anywhere anywhere where you have liberal judges, or
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  Speaker 2: for that matter, you're fortunate enough to have judges that
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  Speaker 2: are not liberal and a criminal justice system that is stiffer.
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  Speaker 2: We've got about three or four categories of people in
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  Speaker 2: the United States, and anybody in any one of those
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  Speaker 2: categories can do something terrible. Somebody who's never been arrested
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  Speaker 2: I don't think as much of anything we can do
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  Speaker 2: about that it happens. Then you have people who've already
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  Speaker 2: been convicted of crimes served their time, we at least
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  Speaker 2: know who they are. But there's this third category that
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  Speaker 2: I think is the most dangerous of all. There are
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  Speaker 2: people who have been caught, arrested, charged, probably dead to
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  Speaker 2: rights guilty, but have not yet been convicted. I've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about this situation forever, and this is the group
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  Speaker 2: that again and again and again and again and again
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  Speaker 2: and again commits terrible crimes. We've made a couple of
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  Speaker 2: changes in the law to try to address it. But
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  Speaker 2: you can change the law all you want. If individuals
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  Speaker 2: who work within the legal system don't use those changes,
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  Speaker 2: they may as well not have occurred. We had the
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  Speaker 2: terrible case in Waukeshaw outside of Milwaukee a few years ago,
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  Speaker 2: the Parade massacre career criminal Daryl Brooks, free unbond, when
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  Speaker 2: have slaughtered a bunch of people his free, unbond and
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  Speaker 2: served minimal time for conviction after conviction, after conviction, after conviction,
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  Speaker 2: after conviction, after convictions. The poster child for what happens
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  Speaker 2: when you've got somebody that clearly as a rotten human
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  Speaker 2: being and very very dangerous, and you don't do a
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  Speaker 2: now in this one. I don't think that the handling
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  Speaker 2: actually to the end of this case and then go backward.
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  Speaker 2: I usually do these with regard to court cases the
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  Speaker 2: other way around. I think in this case, I'll serve
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  Speaker 2: my purpose best by dealing with it this way. The
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  Speaker 2: case involves a guy who lives in the village of
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  Speaker 2: Waukeshaw that's used to be called the town of Waukeshaw.
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  Speaker 2: The village of Wakashaw is outside the city limits of
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  Speaker 2: the city of Waukeshaw. His name is David Yankee. This
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  Speaker 2: is as bad as it gets in terms of his conduct. Yankee,
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  Speaker 2: forty four years old, lives in the village of Wukashaw.
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  Speaker 2: He's charged with first degree reckless injury, four counts of
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  Speaker 2: first degree reckless and dangering safety and another of operating
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  Speaker 2: while suspended causing great bodily harmed Who counts of bail jumping?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to read from on the walk Ashaw Freeman
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  Speaker 2: report on the case. According to the criminal complaint against him,
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  Speaker 2: Yankee was driving at speeds of ninety to one hundred
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  Speaker 2: miles per hour southbound on a Highway one sixty four
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  Speaker 2: when he blew a red light at Lawnsdale Road on
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  Speaker 2: April seventeenth, striking two cars before his own vehicle went
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  Speaker 2: off the roadway and down into a ditch, ejecting him
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  Speaker 2: as it rolled over. The driver of one vehicle was
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  Speaker 2: headed east on Lawndale preparing to turn left onto one
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  Speaker 2: sixty four when Yankee struck him, pushing his vehicle twenty
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  Speaker 2: to thirty feet. The man had to be expricated from
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  Speaker 2: his car and sustained a punctured lung and a fractured rib.
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  Speaker 2: The complaint said. Almost simultaneously with that crash, a woman
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  Speaker 2: was driving west on Lawndale when her car crashed into Yankees.
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  Speaker 2: Into Yankees, three miners and two under two were in
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  Speaker 2: that car with her. The woman and two of the
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  Speaker 2: children sustained small bruises and seat belt burns, and one
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  Speaker 2: of the kids had a bloody nose. The complaint said,
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  Speaker 2: So as this guy blows to the red light, ends
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  Speaker 2: up in contact with two other vehicles, strikes one and
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  Speaker 2: another vehicle struck him as he's blown through the red
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  Speaker 2: light and carening out of control. It gets better or worse,
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  Speaker 2: depending on your perspective, quoting against from the story. A
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  Speaker 2: deputy reviewed surveillance footage from the nearby Fox River Christian
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  Speaker 2: Church that showed Yankee speeding just before the crash and
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  Speaker 2: running a red light. He appeared to have sustained significant injuries,
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  Speaker 2: the complaint said. Deputies learned his seat belt had been
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  Speaker 2: buckled behind him. The complaint said, now I know why
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  Speaker 2: people do that. Do you know why people do that?
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  Speaker 2: Because so the beep beep beep doesn't go off, so
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  Speaker 2: he buckles the seatbelt and then sits on it. You out,
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  Speaker 2: you get just put the seat belt on. Well, we
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  Speaker 2: get to get further into his contact, and you'll see
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  Speaker 2: that there isn't particularly any regard for anyone's life, including
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  Speaker 2: his own. Yankee's father showed up at the seed saying
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  Speaker 2: a woman informed him she had been on a video
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  Speaker 2: call with Yankee when the crash occurred. So he's facetiming
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  Speaker 2: or some other video application face timing with a woman
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  Speaker 2: when he's driving like a bat out of hell running
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  Speaker 2: through the red light. Continuing. This is according to the
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  Speaker 2: dad who shows up. That woman recorded part of the video,
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  Speaker 2: so we actually have this video. It's very hard to
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  Speaker 2: get any of these things on a timely fashion out
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  Speaker 2: of any of the local court systems. You know, when
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  Speaker 2: you watch these YouTube pulle videos, it's often from states
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  Speaker 2: like Florida or Texas because they have very good open
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  Speaker 2: records laws and they turned the stuff over immediately, even
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  Speaker 2: if it's involved in a pending case. We don't do
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  Speaker 2: that in Wisconsin, so I don't know how quickly we'll
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  Speaker 2: get that. But anyway, the woman who's doing the facetiming
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  Speaker 2: with the guy, she's recording the video. This is according
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  Speaker 2: to the criminal complaint, continuing, that woman recorded part of
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  Speaker 2: the video call with Yankee, in which he told her
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  Speaker 2: he was going to speed and blow red lights. The
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  Speaker 2: complaint said the woman said Yankee began smoking crack while driving,
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  Speaker 2: and when she tried to ask him questions, he ignored
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  Speaker 2: her and instead talked about how he was Jesus, was
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  Speaker 2: running red lights and could not be hurt. When asked
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  Speaker 2: if the defendant made any suicidal comments during the call,
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  Speaker 2: she said it was the opposite, and that the defendant
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  Speaker 2: was claiming he was invincible. The woman sent a copy
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  Speaker 2: of the recorded video call to a detective. A still
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  Speaker 2: image taken from the video showed Yankee smoking from what
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  Speaker 2: appeared to be a crack pipe. The complaints said, criminally
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  Speaker 2: charged now for that incident, this happened a month ago.
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  Speaker 2: Now I want to share the background when this occurred.
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  Speaker 2: David Yankee was free on bail on a third offense
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  Speaker 2: drunk driving case from one year ago. Now let's start
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  Speaker 2: with this. There are consequences of a criminal justice system
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  Speaker 2: that crawls along. Drunk driving cases are usually open and shot,
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  Speaker 2: not always, usually not the most complicated case in the world.
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  Speaker 2: They're the type that you would think could be disposed
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  Speaker 2: of rather quickly. However, if you're the defendant and third
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  Speaker 2: offense drunk driving almost well it does. It means incarceration.
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  Speaker 2: You have every incentive to drag it along. Put yourself
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  Speaker 2: in Yankee shoes. You're a loser. You got a third
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  Speaker 2: offense drunk driving there's other stuff involving him that he'll
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  Speaker 2: get to.
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  Speaker 3: Do.
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  Speaker 2: You want to have the case resolved tomorrow, or you
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  Speaker 2: would prefer to have it resolved in two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: eighty one years. Obviously, the longer farther away the better.
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  Speaker 2: Let me get into the details of that case. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, I'm holding lots and lots of pages here
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  Speaker 2: because I have the online court file from all of
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  Speaker 2: his cases. And the next one that I'm going to discuss.
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  Speaker 2: He was charged in June of last year, so about
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  Speaker 2: eleven months ago, June third, with third offense drunk driving
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  Speaker 2: resisting failing to stop. He's not charged with a looting,
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  Speaker 2: but it says fail to stop, which probably means that
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  Speaker 2: he just kept on driving without going off, at a
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  Speaker 2: high speed, operating with restricted controlled substances and so on.
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  Speaker 2: That's third offense in that case. Judge Michael Maxwell, who's
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  Speaker 2: one of the better judges in Wakashaw Khan, he slapped
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  Speaker 2: him with a one thousand dollars cash bond. But he
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  Speaker 2: posted it now. Again the point that I made earlier,
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  Speaker 2: this is the group of people that I think is
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  Speaker 2: the most dangerous. If you know you're going to be
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  Speaker 2: going to jail for doing something, what's the reason not
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  Speaker 2: to do it again in the interim period? You see
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  Speaker 2: this over and over and over again. Now some people
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  Speaker 2: will say, well, third defense, drunk driving. You can't make
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  Speaker 2: a guy post one hundred thousand dollars bail. No, maybe not,
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  Speaker 2: but I think you can make him post more than
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  Speaker 2: a thousand. What's wrong with twenty five? And if he
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  Speaker 2: can't post it, let him sit his ass in jail,
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  Speaker 2: and that'll induce him to plead the case out and
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  Speaker 2: you can resolve it quickly and go on with his charging.
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  Speaker 2: But we don't. We don't again and again and again
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  Speaker 2: and again and again and again and again. When you
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  Speaker 2: see these people that are driving like complete lunatics out
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  Speaker 2: there on the freeware or in this case, one sixty
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  Speaker 2: four is a state highway, they're almost always people who
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  Speaker 2: have been caught before doing the same thing and are
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  Speaker 2: able to do it again because we never do anything
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  Speaker 2: to them. On this case, the guy was caught OWI.
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  Speaker 2: There's a controlled substance in there as well. It's not
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  Speaker 2: clear to me from the court record if he got
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  Speaker 2: OWI because of alcohol and the drugs that he was on. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 2: the case and I could go into all the delays
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  Speaker 2: and the court hearings that were held in the interim period,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not that necessary. No, again, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that this is an atrocious case of handling by Judge Maxwell.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a case of a guy with no bail,
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  Speaker 2: and it wasn't like ninth offense trunk driving that he
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  Speaker 2: was on, but it was third. And my opinion is
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  Speaker 2: is that people can get a first defense drunk driving
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  Speaker 2: and if they don't have any other history of doing
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  Speaker 2: anything wrong. No, I don't think you have to ruin
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  Speaker 2: their lives, but there needs to be punishment. Second offense
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  Speaker 2: raises eyebrows once you start getting a this is somebody
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  Speaker 2: who hasn't learned and they're dangerous, and the more on
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  Speaker 2: you go. So, now Yankee's all banged up, he's they've
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  Speaker 2: set bail for him here at one hundred thousand, but
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  Speaker 2: he's not listed as being in the Wakashaw County jail.
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  Speaker 2: I presume he is still hospitalized. Let me move now
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  Speaker 2: to another case. This one is a Milwaukee county and
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  Speaker 2: it is being covered today by js online. It's a
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  Speaker 2: good thing. Rarely do you see cases like this coveraged
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  Speaker 2: by the media. In this instance, they had a whistleblower
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  Speaker 2: contact them. There's a pro police agency in Milwaukee. It
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  Speaker 2: has a confusing name here, so I'm gonna explain this.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lodge of the Fraternal Order of Police. Often
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  Speaker 2: that's a police union. In this instance, it's a lodge
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't involve I mean, I don't The guy who's
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  Speaker 2: the spokesman here is not a current as far as
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  Speaker 2: I know, police officer, but has a law enforcement background,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, former police officer, and he's acting as the spokesman.
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  Speaker 2: And what they do is they draw attention to cases
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  Speaker 2: like this. I have the court file of the guy
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  Speaker 2: involved in this case. Now I have to stress that
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  Speaker 2: there's somebody else with his virtually same name. His name
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  Speaker 2: is Amir am I. E. R. Hassan Jones Jr. He
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  Speaker 2: has a very long criminal record. Do you know who
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  Speaker 2: else has a long criminal record? I wish Paul was
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  Speaker 2: here for these things, because then when he doesn't get it,
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  Speaker 2: I can make fun of him for it. Amir Hassan
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  Speaker 2: Jones Junior has a long criminal record. Take a guess
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  Speaker 2: as to somebody else who does. These questions are always easy,
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  Speaker 2: not hard. They just seem hard. I'm on here Amir
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  Speaker 2: has Hassan Jones Senior. So in going through this, I
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  Speaker 2: had to separate to make sure and by looking at
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  Speaker 2: the dates of birth to not throw in Jones Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Who's the subject of this case with Joanes Senor, who
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  Speaker 2: also has wrongdoing going on in his past. Anyway, this guy,
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  Speaker 2: Amir Hassan Jones Junior, is facing multiple charges in connection
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  Speaker 2: with stalking and abusing a woman. I think I know
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  Speaker 2: the relationship between the two, but it's not clear from
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  Speaker 2: the court record, so I'm not going to go into
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  Speaker 2: it in exact detail other than it's apparently a terrible
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  Speaker 2: relationship that he has with this woman. To the point
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  Speaker 2: that he was charged in January was stalking, domestic abuse,
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  Speaker 2: possession of firearm by a convicted felon, on and on
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  Speaker 2: and on. In May of last year, he was charged
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  Speaker 2: with vehicle operator freeing and eluding habitual criminal offender. On
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  Speaker 2: that case from May of last year, they slapped a
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  Speaker 2: thirty five thousand dollars cash bond on him. That's good.
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  Speaker 2: Then he got the next case in January of this
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  Speaker 2: year and they slapped a thirty thousand dollars arrest warrant
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  Speaker 2: on him in this interim period last year, he missed
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  Speaker 2: the court date and his lawyer said he was in
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  Speaker 2: the hospital in the meantime. This is the story now
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  Speaker 2: reported on js online. He's got all of this stuff
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  Speaker 2: in his background. He's in jail now. Again, this is
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  Speaker 2: one of those instances. It's not like the last case.
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  Speaker 2: This guy's actually in jail. He hasn't able to make
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  Speaker 2: the strong bond that was put up from jail. He
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  Speaker 2: is accused of making six hundred calls to the victim
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  Speaker 2: and to one of the police officers that was involved
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  Speaker 2: in handling his case. Six hundred. You don't have to
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  Speaker 2: be really smart and understanding human nature. That six hundred
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  Speaker 2: calls implies obsession. What's he calling about? Drop the charges
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  Speaker 2: or can't your testimony?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: I can just imagine six hundred calls. The people that
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  Speaker 2: were given the calls went to the authorities and said,
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  Speaker 2: this guy keeps calling me. They have asked the judge
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  Speaker 2: that is overseeing his case to do something about it,
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  Speaker 2: including raising his bail. Obviously they're afraid. Now let me pause.
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  Speaker 2: When you see cases of domestic cases where some guy
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  Speaker 2: kills his wife, kills his girlfriend, maybe even the other
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: way around. Woman kills the boyfriend kills a husband, whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is. Often cases like this, where you can get
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: all the restraining orders in the world, the person just
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  Speaker 2: does not stop. Instead, the obsession accelerates, and in many
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  Speaker 2: cases everybody sees it going on and nobody does a
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  Speaker 2: damn thing about it. In this case, the person not
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  Speaker 2: doing a damn thing about it. It's a miserable excuse
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  Speaker 2: of a Milwaukee County judge named Anna Barrios Schroeder. Not
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  Speaker 2: all Milwaukee County judges are terrible. Most are bad, summer terrible.
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  Speaker 2: There's a few that are very good. Anna Barios Shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: When the prosecutors went to the judge, pointing out he's
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  Speaker 2: made these six hundred calls she has, she refused to
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  Speaker 2: take any action against him. And that's the subject of
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  Speaker 2: the js online story. And again I'm glad they're reported
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  Speaker 2: on it. Let me quote from it. The story quotes
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  Speaker 2: Michael Murphy. Now there's a lot of people with that name.
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  Speaker 2: This is not the former Milwaukee alderman and so on.
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  Speaker 2: This is the guy's been involved in law enforcement issues forever.
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  Speaker 2: He's the fourth president of this Cream Cream City Lodge
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  Speaker 2: of the Fraternal Order of police. It's a police advocacy group.
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  Speaker 2: This should not be confused with the police union. That's
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  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Police Association. But the FOP can be a
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  Speaker 2: labor organization. In this case, this chapter lobbies and is
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  Speaker 2: an activist group on behalf of law enforcement. So Michael
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  Speaker 2: Murphy is criticizing the judge. He said, ultimately, there's two
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  Speaker 2: human beings who are being threatened. We take this very serious.
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  Speaker 2: JS online contacted the judge, and the judge actually defended
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  Speaker 2: her actions. Some of these cases, judges will not talk
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  Speaker 2: about pending cases. In this case, the judge did speak
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  Speaker 2: with JS online. The judge told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
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  Speaker 2: that she understood the concern. She noted that she had
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  Speaker 2: made a full record in court May seventh, after hearing
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  Speaker 2: arguments from the prosecutors in defense. She said she also
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  Speaker 2: admonished the defended, will you give me a break? You
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  Speaker 2: know a lot of these court hearings are now on
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  Speaker 2: TV on YouTube. You can see them all. I mean
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  Speaker 2: all the time. You'll see a judge bawling the defendant
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  Speaker 2: out and they're in there for a bail here. You can't.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I think that might work with like a first offender
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: who screwed up and made you know, threatened him with
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: the end of the world. It might make an impact.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: It's not going to make an impact on a scum
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: like this guy. But she said she admonished him if
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: something bad happens, which I'm telling you it might. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: want you to remember that the judge patted herself in
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the back because she had managed to defend it, continuing,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I take very seriously victim protection and officer protection. No
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: you don't. You know how you can tell if you
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: take something seriously when you do something about it. All
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: this lip service you get from the left. I take
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: this seriously. Oh, I take that seriously A serious concern.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Saying you take something seriously is different from doing something
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: about it. Murphy, that's the law Enforcement Advocacy group said
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the threatened officer had alerted him to the situation. In
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the news release, his organization called for an immediate review
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of policing governing police policy. Excuse me, immediate review of
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: policies governing inmate communication privileges within the Milwaukee County Jail. Now,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: it used to be, back in the days before we
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: had cell phones, that you had to use a jail
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: phone to make a call and they were all monitored.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I actually, I admit I don't know if in the
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee County Jail inmates have access to their cell phones.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I just, I honestly just don't know. If it's a
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: cell phone call, clearly you wouldn't have the ability to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: monitor it. If he's making the call from a jail phone,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: they can be monitoring it. But can you just sit
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: in the jail and call anybody you want as many
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: times as you want. Maybe we need to go back
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to the older days in which you had to put
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: a quarter in the phone and it costs you something
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: organization called from media, or you have policies governing inmate
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: communication privileges within the Milwaukee County Jail, particularly in cases
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: with credible threats of violence, and urged authorities to ensure
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the safety of the victim and officers. In the case,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: the officer is a member of the Milwaukee County High
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Risk Domestic Violence Team, which tries to stop domestic abuse
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: cases from escalating the homicide. So the officer is specifically
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: involved in cases like this where the abuse is so
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: terrifying that they're afraid the guide's going to kill her
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: or obviously in some cases, the woman's going to kill
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: him or her, depending on the nature of the relationship.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: The officer had been investigating twenty nine year old Emir
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Jones Junior, who faces felony stocking, illegal gun possession, reckless
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: in land daturing safety, attempted fleeing, and intimidation. Jones has
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: been courte ordered not to have the contact with the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: victims since January when the charges were filed, So he's
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: already under a no contact order, yet he's obviously contacting her.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: What's the point of giving him an old contact order
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: if he keeps contacting her again. He is in jail.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: But here's the problem. That thirty five thousand dollars cash bail.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: It's remarkable how many times criminals can post what even
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: seems to be a rather high bail. Now he hasn't
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: posted it yet, which is good. On May seventh, assist
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: at Milwaukee County District Attorney Jessica Bailing asked the judge
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: to rescind to Jones's communication privileges and raise his bail
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: to seventy five thousand. Now that seems reasonable to me.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: The DIA's office said, let's raise his bail to seventy
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: five thousand, and let's take away his communication privileges. Clearly,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: he's abused them first, so he's making six hundred recall. Secondly,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: he's told to have no contact. So the gia's request
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: is very simple take away as communication privileges raises bail.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: The judge told it to jump in a lake. That's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: not a direct quote. It's the impact of her statement
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: in emotion bailing. That's the assistant DA cited Jones's messages
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: from send from a jail approved tablet. Okay, that answers
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that question. So he's got a tablet. He's not using
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: a cell phone, but he's got a tablet. And obviously
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you can make voice calls from a tablet a day earlier,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: including one that read in part if this the detective
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: from the preliminary reading in this case, you already on
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: my hit Listen. I'm sure he meant hit list very
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: short of. The judge denied the requests and kept Jones's
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: bail at thirty thousand dollars. In that case, she also
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: denied the defense attorney's requests. The lower is bail. Now
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Jones has another hearing actually later today, the day that
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I'm doing this podcast. So I don't have the results
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: of that as a time that I'm recording the podcast.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: So you have a case here of threats being made,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: including an officer investigating the case, and the judge who's
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: handling the case on his already existing charges pertaining to
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the case, does nothing about it. As I said, he
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: was criminally charged with what I mentioned in January. He
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: has earlier charges that are also pending from fleeing from
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: police back from May of last year. So the new
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: behavior occurred. The charges of abuse and harassment occurred when
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: he was on bail from the fleeing and a looting charge.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Now with the bail in place, he's in jail and
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: is continuing to violate the conditions of his bil by
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: doing something that is very, very scary, by making all
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: of these threats. His criminal record goes on and on
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: a non I want you to consider for a moment
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: what harm there would be in the judge ordering that
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: his communication privileges. We take it away when he is
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: abusing his criminal communication privileges now none. Now we can
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: only hope that he doesn't post bail, gets convicted, and
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: gets multiple years in prison. So the people that he
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: is threatening are saved from him. But the word that
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I use there is hope, and placing hope in our
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: criminal justice is the particular if it's in Milwaukee County.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: In particularly that the cases land in the hands of
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: certain judges, and there are some truly rotten ones, the
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: hope is often false hope. Now I want to get
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: to a third case. This is a case that's been
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: handled properly. We have a very strong sentence that's been
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: handed down, and a terrible case that we had in
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee area from last year. We are plagued in
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: our area with people who get smashed and drive the
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: wrong way on the freeway. I've contended that I just
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: think in many cases these are people that are mixing
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: booze and pills and so on. My long, long, long
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: experience of being out there and being around the town
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: and all of that that usually even when you're drunk,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: you can get you what you know to go the
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: right way on the freeway, But if you're completely screwed up,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: maybe you don't. This case involved a man in Ozaki
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: County who was driving the wrong way on the freeway
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: and crashed into a vehicle being driven by another couple.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: They were both killed. It was an awful case. The
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: criminal complaint against the guy, and he has an Asian name,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: and I'm guessing on the pronunciation here. I believe it
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: is way vu. Let me quote from the complaint. According
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to the criminal complaint vu or view v u E
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: was seen swerving and excessively speeding. Other cars flashed their
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: lights and honked as he passed by. So all the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: other cards that are going the correct way on the freeway,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: he's driving against them. They're flashing the lights, honk and
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: trying to get his attention. Hey, you're going the wrong way.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Five calls came in vu or VUW. I'm guessing vous
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: driving Alexis. It's slammed head on into a FOURD escape
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: being driven and passengers of the Horn family, Nicole Horn,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Jay Horn, and their daughter Alyssa. Nicole and Jay, husband
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: and wife were killed fifty one and fifty six, respectively.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Alyssa was pinned to the back seat and was conscious.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So here's a guy that's driving quite a distance the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: wrong way at high speeds in the freeway while smashed
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: kills two people injured somebody else A man. Imagine being
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: in a car with your parents in killed this because
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: this piece of crap is so screwed up he's going
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the wrong way on the freeway and can't figure it
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: out as driving recklessly. Besides, the case has been resolved
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: in a Zaki County. There was a guilty play, and
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the judge in the case, Sandy Williams has been around forever,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: gave him thirty years. Now, I would have called for more.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: The prosecutor actually called for forty five. But thirty isn't bad.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: There is an attempt to do away with the truth
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and sentencing laws that we have in Wisconsin, where go
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: back to the old days where you can get out
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: much earlier than the thirty years. But under the current laws,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: he's still sentenced to thirty years, so he's got to
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: be locked up for a fairly long time. That is
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: a good rest of the case. We don't have in
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the case of this guy, all sorts of prior terrible
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: criminal conduct that had him free to do what he
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: did at the time. In cases like this, all you
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: can do is react after the fact. And one other
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: court case to mention. This is an interesting story that
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: was reported earlier this week by The Daily Mail. The
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Daily Mail, citing sources obviously there are leagues from the
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: United States Supreme Court describes the frustration of not just
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the sixth conservative, our so called conservative justices, but even
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: two of the liberals, the frustration they have with out
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: of control radical Katanji Brown Jackson. We now have all
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: sorts of eight to one Supreme Court rulings cases in
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: which they're so open and shot that even the two
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: leftists on the court other than her will side with
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the six conservatives. Let me quote briefly from the Daily
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Meal story. Conservative Court insiders who opposed Jackson's nomination tell
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: me that's the reporter. The justice's belligerence has grown alongside
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the disappointment of an activist who has discovered she cannot
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: do what President Biden wanted make policy. So the story
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: reports that her conduct in the chambers and the conduct
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: with the other justices is out of control, yelling, screaming,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: impossible to deal with. Continuing. Ever since Justin Jackson arrived,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: The New York Times reported last October, friction has been
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: building between her and Justices Soda, Mayor and Kagan, the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: other two liberals who are more aligned strategically, and between
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: her and the rest of the court. Continuing she has
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: made herself an outsider even among her Democrat appointed colleagues.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Jackson's antagonistic, highly personalized style is widely seen as damaging
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: her ideological compatriots on the Court, the living constitutionalists, more
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: than the originalists. In other words, the argument that they're
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: making is that Katanji Brown Jackson is making such a
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: fool of herself that it's actually harming her side. They're
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: in the minority, obviously, it's six', three but as you,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: know two of those six so called conservatives often flop
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: over to the other. Side the story's conclusion is that
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the behavior Of, jackson if, anything is solidifying those six,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: conservatives often to the point that the other two liberals
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: will go inside with them because nobody can handle dealing
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: With Katanji Brown. Jackson it reminds me of the stories
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: that we heard from The Wisconsin Supreme court ten or
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: fifteen years, ago of the absolutely impossible to deal with
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: conduct of Former Chief Justice Shirley abrahamson and her Buddy
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Anne Walsh. Bradley the, problem of, course is That Supreme
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: court justices are appointed for. Life Joe biden Put Katanji
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Brown jackson on the. Court the prospects of impeaching a
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: leftist judge just for being a lunatic and behaving like
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: an idiot are almost impossible to be able to get
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the first of all the fifty to fifty, voted then
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: the two thirds necessary for your conviction and. Removal so
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: she's going to be here apparently for the next thirty
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: to thirty five. Years As i've pointed out again and
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: again and again and, again judicial appointments matter more than
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: almost anything a public official does because they last. Longer
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: this is The Mark Belling. Podcast this is The Mark Belling.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Podcast this, week in front of The United States, senate
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a great personal, risk a whistleblower testified as to what
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: was going on during The biden administration behind the scenes
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: and THE cia with regard to THE covid origin. INVESTIGATION
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of. Words let me. EXPLAIN covid showed up
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty and we had one of the Greatest
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: american freak outs of all. Time in, retrospect it was
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: a grotesque, overreaction filled with violations of people's rights and
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: didn't do a damn. Thing doggone near everybody in The
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: United states was exposed to or GOT covid and like most,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: VIRUSES i just think that that's the way they're going
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: to play out unless there's a treatment for, them or
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: unless the virus is very hard to. TRANSMIT, aids for,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: example requires blood to blood. Contact and given the fact
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: that once the virus got out of the, bag it
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: was inevitable just about everybody was going to get, IT
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: i just contend we shouldn't have done anything other than
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: encourage people to do the things that they can to avoid,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: it like you have tried to avoid getting the coal
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: of the flu and so. On but we didn't do,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: that and instead we took away people's, rights shut down,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: society damage the, economy caused the hyperinflation that we're still
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: trying to get rid, of and so. On in the, meantime,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: though the truth about where this virus came from was
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: suppressed and covered. Up it was suppressed and covered up
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: because the very guy whose job it was to tell
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: us how to deal with the virus was the guy
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: who may have been responsible in the first place for the.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Virus even, Existing Anthony fauci helped launder a. Grant gain
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: of function research was illegal in The United. States type
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: of research in which you do research on viruses within
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: animals and whether or not they can jump to human.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Beings very very dangerous to. You to create a virus
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: in a, lab give it to an, animal see how it,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: handles and that that thing doesn't get out of the.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Lab so we banned. It so we gave a. Grant
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: So fauci gave a grant to An american, organization which
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: then turned around and gave the grant to a lab In, China.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Wuhan the first PLACE covid showed up Was, Wuhan, china
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: and we know that they were doing research on this
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: very virus in the lab At. Wuhan it didn't take
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: a genius to figure out that the virus came out
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: of the, lab yet they told us it. Didn't fauci
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: lied and lied and. Lied the reason for the, lie of,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: course was to cover up the fact that he was
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: the guy that started the whole thing by giving the
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: money to the. Lab fauci IS i, think a purely evil.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Person rather than admit he screwed, up he instead covered
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the whole thing up and then led this overreaction to.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: It because the lefties decided to Believe fauci from the.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Beginning they can't turn around and simply acknowledge that a
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: he was, wrong even though by our own behavior we
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: now RETREAT covid very very. Differently they've now he sent
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: by their, actions acknowledged he's, wrong but they've never focused
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: on trying to do anything about the monster. Himself so
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: we have these. Hearings Rand, Paul senator From kentucky has
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: been obsessed with Exposing. Faucie we know of a whistleblower
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: talking about the CIA's. Assessment, Now fauchie's not THE, cia
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: but it's the CIA's job to look into what's going
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: on in foreign, countries and they their. Assessment the whistleblower
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: points out from the, beginning at least from twenty, one
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: was the virus got out of the. Lab yet for
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: three full, years THE cia did not disclose, this according
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: to the, whistleblower because it was not in The biden
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: administration's interest to have THE, cia which is now. Theirs,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: remember in twenty twenty THE cia Was. Trump trump was
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: the president Of january of twenty twenty. One biden comes
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: in in twenty twenty, one and THE cia assessment comes.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: In at that, point The biden administration was continuing all
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: of the lockdowns in pushing the, vaccines et, cetera and
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: they were vested in Protecting. Fauci according to the whistleblower
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: who testified in front of The senate this, week THE
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: cia knew the virus came out of the, lab yet
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: didn't release their, assessment Allowing fauci to keep putting out these.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Lies you'll recall that it was so extreme That fauci
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: got a bunch of scientists to sign a letter saying
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: it was ridiculous to say that it came from the,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: lab so a conclusion that was obvious in the. Beginning of,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: course it came from the. Lab people who came up
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: with that were called conspiracy, theorists, liars and so, on
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Because fauci conspired to knock down a story that was.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: True so if we can't get into the actual, origins
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: which of course is then key to determine how you
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: deal with the thing like in the, future let's not
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: let anybody do this. Research and, secondly let's not Have
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: american dollars. Funded and, thirdly anybody dumb enough to try
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: to get around the law by laundering this money should
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: not be somebody that is actually overseeing our handling of such.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Viruses the obvious, conclusion if we learned that this came
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: out of the laugh from the, beginning would have been
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: to Get fauci's butt out of there, instantaneously because he's
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: the monster who created the whole. Thing Rand paul is
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: adamant That fauci be. Charged so far The TRUMP doj
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: hasn't done.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: It.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Now part of the thinking, HERE i, think is If
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: fauci's really, old so what What fauci? Did compare this
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: to the hell that The january sixth defendants went. Through
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: compare the actions Of. Fauci let me move now to another.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Story Greg goettfeld has been on, this And i'm piggybacking
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: off of a point that he makes AS i go
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: into another. Story there have now been three separate stories
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Of democratic politicians in The United states having affairs With chinese.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Spies the most recent one is a mayor In. California
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: the Big, wood of, course Was Eric, swalwell who was
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: the congress From california and was the front runner in
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: The california nomination for, governor and in, fact even though
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: The chinese spy story was, known he was still leading
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: in the polls Because democrats In california apparently don't care
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: if a congressman is having an affair with A chinese.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Spy was only torpedoed because of other allegations that came
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: forward about sexual, misconduct including sexual. Assault so these cases keep.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Coming it's first of, all very very. Clear, now The
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: china puts people in The United, states often people who
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Become american, citizens and compet sates them very, well the
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: spy For china and send information back to. Us in
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the case of a, mayor it can be any you could, say,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: well what information would that? Be maybe it's this tech
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: company involved There, swallwell it's the highest motivation. Possible the
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: guy was a member Of congress and on the way
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: to becoming A. Senate imagine if The chinese spies have
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: their tentacles into. That so these stories keep coming and. Coming,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Now i'm sure you're going to get A chinese spy
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: hooked up to Some republican. Politician i'm not suggesting that
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: that there's any kind of, hornings that there Aren't republican
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: officials that aren't just as horning and just as. Reckless
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: but it's been a lot Of democrats so far that
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: have been exposed for being involved With chinese, spies which
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: brings us to this story because it isn't. That for,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: once it's not A chinese. Spy But i'm telling you it's.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Weirder it's another guy In california who is running for.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Governor this guy's already been knocked out of the race.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Too there's a. Billionaire his name Is Stephen. Klubek when
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: the race, started he was thought to have. It the
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Big democrats that were running in the beginning Were, Swallwell Katie,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: porter the member Of congress who apparently is the meanest
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: woman in the. World they were a problem In. California
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: all of their candidates for governor are. Imploding and there Was,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: clubec And klubec was thought to have a chance because
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: he's a. Billionaire in a state Like, california you need
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: a ton of money to be able to run in
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: a state that, big with that many, people ads and
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: all these different markets and so, on And klubec had
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the ability to sell. Finance klubec's candidacy ended when he
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: was criminally. Charged there's a story from THE abc affiliate
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: In Los. Angeles we have that ready. DAY i want
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: you to just. Listen this is the audio track of
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: a television, story but it's rather self. Explanatory if there's
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: any holes in, It i'll pick it. Up BUT i
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: want you to listen to What, clubec this billionaire who
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: had been running for governor Of, california is now accused of.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: DOING a former candid for governor Of california has been.
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: Arrested Eyewitness news Reporter Josh haskell JOINS Us now with
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: what we're learning about the charges Against Stephen. Klubek Josh.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Philip Billionaire Stephen klubeck turned himself into The La County
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Sheriff's department at Their West hollywood station On tuesday morning
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: on a felony warrant for alleged violation of dissuading or
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: intimidating a witness of or a victim of a. Crime
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Eyewitness news has learned That klubec was or still is
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: romantically involved with A Los angeles model Named Audva, levie
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: who also goes By Mia. Ventura that is the same
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: person we've been reporting on four months who is accused
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: of targeting older men on dating apps and then burglarizing their.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Homes according to the, Complaint klubec attempted to prevent at
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: least two alleged victims Of levi from testifying against.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: Her back In.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: March, now back in, Marsh Los Angeles county district attorney
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Ordered Oudva levie to stand trial on six felony. Charges
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: District Attorney Nathan hawkman said her ability to deceptively influence,
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: others whether in person or, online has now come to an.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: End detectives Say levie extorted wealthy older men and younger
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: women In Westlake, Village West, Hollywood Los, angeles And Beverly.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Hills they say she posed as a girlfriend or travel,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: companion then stole, cash credit, cards and high end designer.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Items if convicted on all, Counts levee faces up to
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: over eleven years in state. Prison, now kluebec he has
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: been released after posting three hundred thousand dollars.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Bail all, right, NOW i think that story self, explanatory
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: BUT i have. Questions klubec is the billionaire had been
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: running for. Governor now the woman has two. Names her
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: real name Is Avo levie and her fake name that
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: she was using on the dating sites is Mia. VENTURA i.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: MADE i gotta admit as fake names from a, woman
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: goes Mia ventura is pretty. Good ventura is a city In,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: california and me of, it you, KNOW i, mean just
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: hearing the Name Mia, ventura doesn't she sound? Hot it
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: sounds like a Striggle i'm. SAYING i, mean it sounds
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: like and why would a stripper pick a name like
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: that to make yourself sound? Hot, now even a real,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Name Advo levi sounds kind of exotic. Anyway so what
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: she is is she's one of these women that goes
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: online and meets really rich older. Men, now some of these,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: cases the guys know what the deal. Is they call
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: it the girlfriend. EXPERIENCE i just thankful you could, Say,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: well would you ever? Know i'm way too dull And
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: i'm Way i'm nowhere near desperate. ENOUGH i, mean why
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: DO i want to go out with some hot woman
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: who's thirty years? Old pay her for having to for doing,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: it pay her to do, it knowing damn well that
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: she doesn't like me at. All, nonetheless a lot of
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: these guys do. It they show them off and they
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: pay them for Their i'm. Etc What levie was accused
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: of doing Mea, ventura the fake name that she had
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: was she wasn't just taking the. Money she was then
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: cleaning out their bank accounts and stealing their. Money that's
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: not part of the. Deal so in some instances the
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: guys thought sincerely that the woman loves. Me but in other,
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: cases somebody who is like a paid companion and so
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: one used the access that she had and obviously you
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: can get the credit card, number was running all sorts
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: of financial. Scams so that's what she was. DOING clubec
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: is now accused of contacting some of these men and
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: trying to urge them not to cooperate Against. Ventura so
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Obviously cluebec And ventura are an, item which makes me
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: question is she just one of his? Marks and after
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: all this has been, exposed is he's so stupid to
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: not realize she's a? Scammer or is he the one
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: one guy that she isn't scamming that she actually is
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: hooked up with and it's all the. Others either, Way
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: i'll put yourself in the other guy's. Shoes you're A,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: cluebeck you're a, billionaire and you're running for. Governor wouldn't
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: you ditch me A ventura the first? Chance you? Guy
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: what do you care about? Her and now he's a,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: billionaire he's willing to get witnessed hampering as a. Felony
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: he's accused of contacting witnesses against her other old farts
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: and trying to pressure them not to testify against her
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: in order to save her from having to go to.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: Prison why would you do with? That are you so
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: enamored with? Her or is she just so good at
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: this that while all the other while she's been caught
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: with all the other, guys he still is falling for. Her.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Crap i've said ninety seven million times that you can
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: never ever underestimate how some guys will make a fool
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: of themselves over. WOMEN i just you can't. Underestimate it
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: works the other way. Too but when women make fools
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: of themselves over, guys it tends to manifest itself in different.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Ways like the women rarely spend a huge amount of
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: money in the. Guy they just it tends not to
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: work that. Way it's the other the other it's it's
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: the other way. Around there's other things that can go
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: on when women can become obsessed or get involved in
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: these kinds of, things and women female obsession or very
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: very real. Thing but just look over the Last just take,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: politics you, know, news, whatever some of the athletes been
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: involved in. UNBELIEVABLE i, mean you can talk About. Belichick
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: there's nothing criminal there other than the whole world's laughing
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: at him for this woman that's making a take it
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: over his life managing his. Thing let's talk about the
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: collapse of the deal Between Governor evers And republican legislative.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Leaders that was an attempt to give both sides what they.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Want here in twenty twenty, Six evers desperately wants an
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: increase in funding for, schools and the lefties are just
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: in love with funding. Schools the state has a massive
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: pot of money laying around because once again we're running a.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Surplus The republicans have been trying to get a tax
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: cut for years but can't get one With evers being the.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Governor so even though we're running, surpluses meaning the state
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: has way more money than's, necessary we've not been able
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: to raise cut, taxes and in, Fact evers raised Property
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: there's an automatic increase in property taxes every year In
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: wisconsin because Of ever's so called four hundred year. Veto
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: he used his veto power to take words out of
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: a sentence that ended up with an automatic increase and
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: property taxes for the school aid formula every year for
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: the next four hundred. Years so they cut a. Deal
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: evers is a lame, duck got nothing to. Lose the
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Two republican legislative leaders are also lame, ducks so it
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: created a scenario where they, SIMPLY i won't say that
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: cut it in half Because ever's got about two. Thirds
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: most of the money went To evers to give to the.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Schools but there's so much money there that there are
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: still hundreds of millions left that would be used for
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: a property tax, relief a Big republican, priority and b tax.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Rebates every person In wisconsin with adult person would get
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: a three hundred dollars rebate six hundred per. Couple so
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: The republicans got cash in the hands of Every wisconsinite
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: at a time in which people need the, cash and
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: got property tax, relief And ever's got a fortune for the.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Schools the deal died yesterday had the legislative, session so
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: they called the special session to try to pass it
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: to The assembly and The. Senate The assembly passed the.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Bill all but Two republicans in The assembly voted for,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: it AND i BELIEVE i don't have the exact number
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: it's about ten or Twelve democrats. Voted it passed The assembly,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: easily like by more than twenty to. TWENTY i think
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: it was sixty one thirty. Seven in other, words The
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: assembly it carried. Easily you had a fair number Of
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: democrats and almost all The republicans voting for. It in
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: The senate it. Failed three of The republicans in The
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: senate voted against. It now The republican margin in The,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: SENATE i THINK i said it was one. Vote it's.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Two three voted against, it along with all The. Democrats
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: if One democrat had Backed, evers it would have passed The,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: senate meaning it would have passed The assembly and The
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: senate and goes To evers and be signed in the. Law,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: now this whole thing's complicated because neither side liked the
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: deal that. Much and that's the problem with any. Deal
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: if you've got a democratic Governor republican, legislature the only
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: way you're going to get a deal is if you
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: get the other side way more than you want to
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: in order for you to get what it is that you.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Want and there's the whole what's going to happen After
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: november element of this The democrats who voted against, this
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: belief they're going to win the governorship and flip the.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Legislature the new maps which favor The democrats are in
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: effect they're very close to flipping the state setate as it,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: is and they think they can flip The, assembly and
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: they believe they're going to win the governorship again because
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: everybody thinks it's going to be a democratic. Here everybody
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: other Than new King ritide thinks it's going to be
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: A republican. Whitebot so The democrats are, thinking why past,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: This why don't we wait and give it all to the?
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Schools why do the property tax? Relief do the cash? Rebates,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: see The democrats don't want to give you property tax,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: relief and they don't want to give you any extra tax.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Relief they want to raise. Taxes they don't want to
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: lower anything for. Anybody they want all of. It the
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: only positive that comes out of this is it exposes.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Them now you can, say well White Three republicans opposed.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: It In Tom, tiffany The Republican kennedy for governor also opposed.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: It they thought it was a giveaway to The, democrats
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: but The democrats thought it wasn't enough of a, giveaway
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: AND i Mean tiffany's. Right at the very least they
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: should have split the money down the, middle but more
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: of it went into aid to, schools the last entity
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: In wisconsin that needs more. Money there is nothing more
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: grotesquely overfunded in the state Of. Wisconsin i'll take that.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Back there's one thing more over grotesquely overfunded in the
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: state Of wisconsin the public, schools and that's the university.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: System both are always crying. Poor all you have to
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: do is take a look at other people running around
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: with dubious. Jobs talk to anybody from the private sector
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: who goes in to meet with the schools on some
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: meeting for, anything some construction for, something or some plumbing
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: or some engineering or some buying a. Curriculum there's always
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: like seventeen people from the schools there to me to
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: talk to the one person the private. Sector so The republicans,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: felt Some republicans there are only three of, them voted against,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: it felt that we can win this election With Tom,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: tiffany and we'll be in a much better bargaining. Position
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: if we hold the legislature and Get tiffany, in we
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: can do the whole thing and property tax. Relief we
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: can Kill evers's four hundred year, Veto we can do
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the whole. Thing why settle for this, Now why take
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: a huge chunk of this. Surplus you, know once you
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: give it, away you get it. Away so we end
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: up getting. Nothing and it's all key on if the you,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: know if The republicans do not win the. Governorship rejecting
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: this thing was a disaster and it will have cost
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: all of us hundreds of dollars in the, rebates and
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: it will mean that we have once again done nothing
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: about property taxes that are. Exploding, now if Indeed tiffany,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: wins AND i think it's, possible especially if The democrats
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: run A marxist Like Francesca. Hang If tiffany wins and
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: they can hold the state, LEGISLATURE i think they did
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: the right, thing because you can do a better deal.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Then BUT i think most people from the perspective on
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: The republican side would say that this is the best
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: that you're ever going to, do and probably they should
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: have taken the. Deal by the, way you multiply the
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: number is out there, somewhere AND i don't have. It
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: children aren't, involved but you multiply three hundred dollars toward
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: most adults in the state Of. Wisconsin that's a significant
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: amount of money that would have been pumped back into
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: the local, economy plus helping out a fair number of.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: People AND i acknowledge. THIS i. SEE i think that
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: the deal kind of sucked because you, know you have
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: A republican legislature that's half of state. Government why didn't
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: you get a bigger chunk of the money for tax?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Relief and why do you have to cater to The
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: democrats in this constant desire to throw even more money
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: into the ridiculously overfunded. Schools, still you have to assess
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: your bargaining, power and sometimes you not only can't get
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: all that you, want sometimes you can't get most of
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: what you want in order to get some of the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: things that you really. Need you're listening to The Mark
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Dave michaels is in. Here if you and the state said,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: it would you have voted for? This, well that's a good,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: question he, Said are you a lame? Duck one of
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: the THING i should mention the Three republicans in The
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: senate voted against. It Rob hutton IS i want to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: be careful. Here hutton is a lame. Duck, correct, yes
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: and so Is Steve. Nass these are both. Nascid particular
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: is a conscientious. Conservative he's a lame. Duck he's not running.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Again hutton has been a moderate. Conservative he's a lame.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Duck And i've got the third, Name Chris, kapping a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: conservative From. Waukeshawkani they were the three that voted against.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: It kapping it is the only one that is not
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: a lame. Duck dave, says AM i a lame, duck
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: WHICH i think obviously matters with political considerations. INVOLVED i
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: think Most republicans in the legislature would like to have
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: voted for this so that they can, brag, hey because
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: these rebate checks will be coming out right in the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: middle of the election, year and they could brag about
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: the FACT i gave you this. Money, WELL i Fought
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Tony evers and got you this. Money, now if you're
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: somebody who's a lame duck not, running maybe it doesn't
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: matter as much to. You you can take a more
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: principal stance THAT i am not going to vote to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: give another penny to these blasted. Skulls, Well i'll just
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: put it this. Way let's imagine you live in a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: Safe republican, district so lame duck are. Not you're probably
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: gonna win. Reelection when you voted yes or, no you
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: would have voted. Yes there's also the thing of people
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: have their own you. Know the thing with to the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: three hundred dollars rebates six hundred a. COUPLE i, Mean
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: i'm telling You i'd take the, money but there are
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: people me and way richer than me from it doesn't
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: change your, life but there are a lot of. People
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: six hundred bucks is a lifeline of two. Months they
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: just sneeze at it and sneeze at it and sneeze
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: at it and sneeze at it and sneeze at. It,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: well you're in a tax. Hell but the thing that
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: makes it tricky is this whole thing with the election,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: now if The democrats win the, governorship not taking this
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: deal was a terrible decision by the Three republicans that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: voted against, it because you'll never get it. Again never
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: you lose the, legislature you lose the, governorship they're just
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: going to raise taxes and that money that we would
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: have gotten. Here you, know the thing about the rebate
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: is they can't take it back from. You they can
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: raise taxes at, it but at least you have. It
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: on the other, hand if they can win the election this,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: fall and maybe it's going to be harder to do
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: because they can't brag on giving you these rebates in, terms,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: though the biggest POSITIVE i would say that comes out
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: of this is you can just make it clear that
• 1:03:10
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  Speaker 2: have no listen to the prior five that we've done
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  Speaker 2: here in season. Two one of the issues That i've
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  Speaker 2: been talking about from time to time because it fascinates,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: me is this phenomenon of GEN z that's twenty five
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: and under going to. Church this is all started within
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: the last year in very high. Number it's not more than,
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  Speaker 2: half but it's been. Estimated there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 2: stories written about this that a higher percentage of GEN
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  Speaker 2: z go to church than any of the other generations
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  Speaker 2: that we, have including the baby. Boomers just. USUAL i mean,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: forever the older you, are THE likeli ought to be
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  Speaker 2: a church. Attendee AND i think the reason for that is.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Obvious you can front your own mocrolity and so. On
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  Speaker 2: it's just that it's ear right, now particularly males and Particularly.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Catholics christian churches across the board are seeing, increase but
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: in particular they've been increases among young people going To catholic.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Church some of it has been attributed a certain influencers
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: who have Embraced, catholicism including some influencers who seem otherwise
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: to be rather. Batty Nick Fouene's Candice owans both practice And.
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  Speaker 2: Catholics others attributed to the awakening of faith in the
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: wake of the assassination Of Charlie, kirk WHICH i think
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  Speaker 2: is a real part of. This. Now Charlie kirk was Not,
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  Speaker 2: catholic but the people that are going back to church
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: appear to be conservative in their religious beliefs rather than.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Liberal in The Catholic church obviously has components to it
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: that are very liberal and components to it that are very.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Conservative and we've been sharing from some responses from the.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: Audience they only pick out one or, two But i've
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: shared the ones THAT i think not insulting anybody else's
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: response say why don't you read my? Thing that are
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: the most thought pro, Booking AND i shared one on
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: the last podcast that we did in WHICH i felt
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: the person THAT i don't say, stumbled came upon the,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: truth and that is that there are, simply right, now
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: so many influencers that are out there with A catholic
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Or christian message and explaining. It you can't just tell
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: people Except jesus you're going to go To. Hell you
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: have to, persuade particularly if you're dealing with a young
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: person who's had no exposure to religion their entire, lives
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: but is open to new ideas because they just sense
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: that something's very. Wrong you've got to explain. Why you've
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: got to explain the miracles that have. Occurred you've got
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: to explain the argument that there is A god who
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: created the. World for those that Are, christian and obviously
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: some are, not you have to explain That Jesus christ was,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: divine and you have to do it in a way
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: in which you take facts and build the. Case and
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: build the. Case younger people who have spent their lives
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: being exposed to social media and influencers can be influenced on.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: This some influencers are baddier than the weirdest people in the,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: world like these people that do video standing on the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: street threatening police. Officers but if you can be a goofball,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: influencer you can also be a positive. One AND i
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: think that explanation makes the most. Sense BUT i want
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: to share this. ONE i don't like identifying people who
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: share this with, me but this guy gives me his.
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  Speaker 2: Title i'm not going to give you his, name BUT
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: i am going to give you his, position which means
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: the people that are part of this, church would know.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Him he's Not, catholic, Said i'm A christian of a
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: master's in, theology AND i am an ordained chaplin and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: currently teach apologetics At Elmbuk. Church what's. Apologetics it's not
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: what you think it. Is apologetics is the field of
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: persuading people of your religious. Belief it's not quite. Evangelism
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: evangelism is the attempt to. Conversion but the apologetics would
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: be somebody who's a scholar who then gives you the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: reasons why you should believe the way you. Do AND
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: i think that if that's not a perfect, definition it's.
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  Speaker 2: Close this is what he does At Umbrook. Church in other,
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  Speaker 2: words he tries to teach the validity Of bible teachings
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  Speaker 2: and so, on and why you should believe. It it makes the,
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  Speaker 2: case he, continues where we discuss What christians, believe why
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  Speaker 2: we believe, it and how to defend our. FAITH i
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: consider myself very knowledgeable on the current state Of christianity In.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: America you've made some really good points on why young
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: men are turning back to the, church BUT i think
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: a few critical elements are still being, overlooked mainly the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: connection between young men returning to both faith and. Conservatism
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: so he's, saying it's not just that they're going back to,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: church it's that you have had a significant chunk of
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: young men becoming. Conservative trump got the under twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: VOTE i don't know that A republican has gotten the
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  Speaker 2: under twenty two vote in seventy years in this. Country
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: that was not his, comment that's. Mine so he's saying they're.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Linked several factors seem to be driving this demographic. Shift
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: you would be a mistake to overstate the impact of
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  Speaker 2: any of these factors, individually but combined they seem to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: be giving us insight on the shift we are. Seeing
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: One Charlie, KIRK i mean The Charlie kirk. Thing he,
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  Speaker 2: says it's an obvious. One this is the one part
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  Speaker 2: of this THAT i think is not. Complicated he points
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: out appeal to, faith, family and pushing back against THE.
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  Speaker 2: Ei young men are hearing that it's okay to be,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: masculine desire marriage and, family love, country and reject progressive culture.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Expectations church becomes a place where they can find, identity,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: purpose and. Community two surge Of christian. Nationalism many young
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: men increasingly Connect, christianity, patriotism and. Conservatism, Admittedly trump is
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: a conservative and imperfect and controversial and imperfect ambassador For,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: christianity but many young men view him as someone willing
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: to fight for values they can still can still consider
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: honorable and. True When trump aligns With, christianity Honors Charlie,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: kirk surrounds himself With, christians pushes BACK, dei and embraces.
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  Speaker 2: Masculinity young men listen three return of. MASCULINITY i think
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  Speaker 2: that this is a big portion of. It many young
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  Speaker 2: men were raised being told to step, aside suppress, masculinity
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: and to accommodate girl. Power that atmosphere has. Shifted Gen
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: z men embrace, mma expercial, arts and trade schools over.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: College they've listened To Joe, rogan who Witnessed trump's Fight
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Fight fight. Movement they SEE Jd vance At Pete hegseith
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: as men embodying a form of masculinity they were told
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: was outdated and. Unwelcome all these reinforce the messages that
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  Speaker 2: it's okay to be a strong masculine man. AGAIN i
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: think he's correct about. That i'm not sure if it
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: directly relates going back to. Church, however continuing four resurgence of,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: apologetics and again that's what he does and explain what that.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Is so let me give you his. Explanation this is
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: a huge. Factor young men increasingly Want christianity presented not
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: as blind, faith but as something intellectually, serious, factual, reasonable and.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: DEFENSIBLE i agree with that. Entirely Joe rogan recently interviewed
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Leading christian Apologist Stephen meyer And Wesley, huff bringing discussions
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: about intelligent design and the historical reliability of The bible
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: into mainstream. Culture Ellie stuckey has also given influence by
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: pushing back On dei ideology while avigating For christian living
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: and biblical. Values now let me interject in that. Point
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: first of, all that you could Get christian, apologetics and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: again that term is somebody who explains the Why christianity is.
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  Speaker 2: Correct and AGAIN i understand some of Your, jewish some
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  Speaker 2: of your something, else and you don't agree with. That
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  Speaker 2: i'm just talking about the phenomenon to get On Joe,
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  Speaker 2: rogan he's GOT i, mean it goes back and, forth
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: BUT i would, say over, time the most successful podcast
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: in the history of. Podcasting it's a massive. AUDIENCE i
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: mean that time you would have thought just a few
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: years ago as a niche. Topic who wants to hear
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: somebody explaining why you should be A? Christian and how
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: do you get a mass audience of young? Guys so
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: listen Butt, rogan who's always followed his own lead and
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: has eclectic and sometimes weirdo, views he goes in the
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: direction that interrace, him and he gave this a platform
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: and gave it a. FORUM i have always argued that
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: the people who say THAT i don't believe In, GOD
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: i believe in, science can be easily. Debugged you, simply
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: in my, mind cannot explain how we are here and
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: how complex our world is here without a. Creator when
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: you consider how almost every species interacts with one, another
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: and some of the incredible things that have to happen
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: for species to reproduce and for things to. Happen to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: suggest that something just banged and all of that happened
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: to me is. Ridiculous and that's before we get into
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: evidence of miracles and so. On continuing with the guy's,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: discussion going to church is a modern form of. Rebellion
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: for many Gen Z, Men christianity And conservatism have become.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Countercultural he's, right about. That WHEN i was a, kid
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: not going to church as. Countercultural now going to church
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: is a way of rebelling against everybody telling, No, god
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: don't do. That you know, this every pressive play and so.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: On they are pushing back against institutions and authorities that
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: told THEM covid policies were, unquestionable promote a gender, ideology
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: and normalized biological men competing in women's, sports in entering women's.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Spaces for many young, men rejecting progressive orthodoxy has become
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: today's version of. Rebellion could it be young men are
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: finding a worldview And christianity that aligns with their own
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: view on how the world really is and should. Operate
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: another major factor is that GEN z men and women
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: are moving in very different Directions. Culturally young women are
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: far more likely to pursue advanced college, degrees move toward
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: progressive politics and identity as politically left or. Secular young
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: men are increasingly choosing trades over, college aligning with conservatism
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: and showing renewed openness To christianity and traditional. Values the
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: gender divide is no longer just. Political it now includes
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: education with, worldview, identity and. Religion one thing that caught
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: my attention in the pure religious landscape study is that
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: religion is generally declined with every. Generation that's, true except
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: there are now signs of renewed interest and stabilization among younger.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Men that was the point That i'm. Making that's clearly
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: what's going. On every generation that we have religious interest is,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: declining except younger. Males that's the one where it's. Increasing
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: and that's WHY i keep talking about. This something's going
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: on and understanding what's going, on especially SINCE i think
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: it's a good. Thing it's, critical he, Continues and so
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: that's one. Theory Preakness. Stakes the second they call a
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  Speaker 2: jewel a triple, Cord this one ain't a. Jewel what
• 1:15:08
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• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Thing like it's the cubit cycnia version of the diamond
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: or whatever costume. Jewelry that's what it. Is The preakness
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: is here just. Stinks i've done a couple of segments
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: explaining why it. Is you just can't have the race
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: two weeks after The Kentucky derby. Anymore hardly any trainer
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: likes to run a horse back on two weeks, rest
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  Speaker 2: especially a younger horse orse three year olds are younger
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: because they just think it's gonna wreck them for the.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: FUTURE i think that most who do it can replicate
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: a strong effort back in two, weeks but they pay
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: for it down the road by giving them too much too.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Soon it's not the way everything always, was but it
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: is the way it is. Now so The Kentucky derby
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: winner once, again isn't There there are three horses from
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: The derby that are in the. Race otherwise the field
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: is rather. Weak in addition to, that there's not to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: hardly be anybody. There that's a double. Negative but you
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: know WHAT i. Mean the race is not At pimlico In,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: baltimore which is always a mob. Scene the infield is
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: wilder Than. Derby that track is being, rebuilt so they
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: moved it to their sister track In, Laurel, maryland much smaller,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: track nowhere near the ability to handle any kind of a.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Crowd attendance is capped at six thousand total people for
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: an eight hundred. Fans there are owners of horses on
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: the undercards of the races that can't even, go so
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: there's no atmosphere to it at. ALL i, mean six
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: thousands still a crowd for most race, tracks but it
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  Speaker 2: won't be the normal. Thing, well they're still having the,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: race and it's one of the Three Triple crown. Races
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: and if you have a five to one winner of
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: a meaning of a black race or five to one
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: winner of an epic, race it pays the same. Thing
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: you get twelve dollars for the two dollars bet that you.
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  Speaker 2: Make So i've plugged away AND i have my analysis
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  Speaker 2: i do want to caution. YOU i have A i'm
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  Speaker 2: describing it as a tepid. Opinion doesn't mean That i'm
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: not going to be. Right i'm trying as hard AS
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  Speaker 2: i can to be right in my assessment of. It
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: BUT i don't have a strong feel for the. Race
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: so IF i hit the, thing don't come. Back you
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  Speaker 2: told me YOU i don't know a strong, feel BUT
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: i might still be. Right But i'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: be betting personally WHAT i would bet on a race
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: in WHICH i had a stronger, opinion because my opinion
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: isn't as. Strong so for those of you have an
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