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Lightning Bolts | Son of a Boy Dad #211 · Son of a Boy Dad

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  Speaker 6: Today it is June twenty.
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  Speaker 6: but yeah, one can only help.
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  Speaker 9: I may have asked you this before, but have you
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  Speaker 9: ever been so angry at someone doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 9: someone you know, which is someone that you ran into
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  Speaker 9: or something that happened that you started thinking seriously about
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  Speaker 9: having them killed or killing them.
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  Speaker 6: No ever, M like, not even close, to be honest, really, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: never even close. Even my parents when I was like.
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  Speaker 3: Ten, Oh that's god fucking hate you. That's worse than
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  Speaker 3: what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 6: You've never gotten mad at your parents or you're like
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  Speaker 6: I wish you were dead.
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm road rage and.
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  Speaker 9: Doing something where I thought I want that person to
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  Speaker 9: die immediately.
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  Speaker 6: See road rage. I don't get like that because I
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  Speaker 6: don't drive that much. So when I do drive, it's
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  Speaker 6: like a it's like a gift. I'm like, this is
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  Speaker 6: so fun that I'm dreful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a peaceful.
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  Speaker 6: But traffic in New Jersey, I get like super angry,
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  Speaker 6: but I get I get more angry. I don't get
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  Speaker 6: as angry at the people that are cutting the line,
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  Speaker 6: that are that are driving on the corner. I get
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  Speaker 6: mad at the people that are letting them in.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like I talk to myself and I'm like, have
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  Speaker 6: a fucking spine. Why are you letting them just walk
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  Speaker 6: all over us?
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  Speaker 3: I don't disagree.
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  Speaker 6: All you have to do is just inch forward so
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  Speaker 6: that they can't angle their car in front of yours. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: hold it, Like, don't feel like someone just ripped your
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  Speaker 6: balls off when you're letting them just drive directly in
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  Speaker 6: front of you.
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  Speaker 9: Those are the types of people that if we were
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  Speaker 9: in a giant war and an invading army was charging
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  Speaker 9: at us, oh yeah, they'd be like oh yeah, they'd
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  Speaker 9: turn and they'd run. Yeah, you gotta hold the line.
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  Speaker 9: I'm very I'm I'm I stay loyal to my lane. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: even when you're in jam, and even when you're in
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  Speaker 9: bumper to mupper traffic, and people are like, you know,
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  Speaker 9: because people get a little they get a little lancey,
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  Speaker 9: and I see one of the lanes moving a little
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  Speaker 9: faster than they switch over to that lane.
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  Speaker 6: Next thing you know, I'm flying by them. Because that's
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  Speaker 6: not how traffic works. It's not just one lane is
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  Speaker 6: moving faster than the other. So you gotta stay loyal
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  Speaker 6: to your lane. And you got to pick a car
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  Speaker 6: next to you, and you got to say, hey, if
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  Speaker 6: they get way ahead of me, I'll know I fucked up.
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  Speaker 6: But they never do. They'll get half a mile ahead
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  Speaker 6: of you, and the next thing you know, you're flying by.
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  Speaker 9: It's amazing. It's truly amazing how traffic is a science. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: Oh my god, I am so glad this is where
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  Speaker 9: we are right now in this conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 6: Traffic circles, Yeah, slash roundabouts, slash rotaries. Yeah, I think yeah,
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  Speaker 6: all one and the same. Yeah, maybe there is a
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  Speaker 6: distinction between them. Well, we're not gonna say that definitively.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like ninety percent sure.
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  Speaker 9: I am talking specifically about ones that have two lanes, okay,
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  Speaker 9: the inside lane and the outside lane.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like when you get out of the hall, when
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  Speaker 6: you get into the city, there's two lanes.
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  Speaker 9: Mmmm, that one. No, I'm not talking about that one.
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  Speaker 9: I'm talking about ones that are full circle. Is that
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  Speaker 9: not full So I always that's not a full circle.
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  Speaker 3: You can't keep going around that one.
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  Speaker 6: I've never been past the first exit, so I thought
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  Speaker 6: I assumed it was full circle.
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  Speaker 9: No, I'm talking about traffic circles, rotaries, roundabouts where you
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  Speaker 9: can keep going around in hostly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: To the best of my knowledge, this was not covered
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  Speaker 9: in Drivers head Now I took driver's d I was
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  Speaker 9: sixteen thirty five, nineteen years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: My guess is that the country of the United States
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  Speaker 9: of America at that time did not have many roundabouts, rotaries,
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  Speaker 9: traffic circles.
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  Speaker 6: Nineteen years ago, m hm, we were a nation of
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  Speaker 6: stop lights. Okay, four corners.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, and then the rule was always whoever gets there
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  Speaker 9: first goes. And then I think you either go in
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  Speaker 9: the order of getting there first or maybe yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: that's right. You know, you try to be courteous. Traffic
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  Speaker 9: experts realize that roundabouts and traffic circles are a much
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  Speaker 9: more efficient way of keeping traffic moving. Actually, never, it's
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  Speaker 9: more it's a yield in, yeah, as opposed to a
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  Speaker 9: full stop wait for the light to change. And so
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  Speaker 9: traffic circles have are you know, very much replacing as
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  Speaker 9: far as I can tell, like four corner traffic lights,
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  Speaker 9: stops or intersections makes sense, but I don't know how
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  Speaker 9: to navigate them.
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  Speaker 6: Why.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, let's say that I enter a traffic circle and
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  Speaker 9: I'm the third exit from the one I got on.
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  Speaker 9: Do I go into the inner lane or do I
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  Speaker 9: stay in the outer lane.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know who's driving in the inner lane on
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  Speaker 6: a rotary, because I'm always as soon as I get
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  Speaker 6: into a rotary, I go to the outer lane.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but.
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  Speaker 9: So so exactly who's the inner lane for? Sometimes I
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  Speaker 9: go in there if I think I've got a long
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  Speaker 9: way to go before my exit and I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Want that three seconds instead of two. It's never that long.
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  Speaker 9: Well, but but if i'm if I'm not getting off
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  Speaker 9: with the next one, yeah, the adjacent one, And I
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  Speaker 9: see on my navigation that's the other thing. The navigation
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  Speaker 9: does not make that clear.
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  Speaker 6: No, never, I am yuessing, yeah, And sometimes I'm so
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  Speaker 6: uncertain that I just say, you know what, I'm going
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  Speaker 6: to go around again. Yeah, it's always humiliating heavy.
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  Speaker 3: I've gone around a couple of times. Yeah, me too,
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  Speaker 3: and I feel like a hamster.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah it doesn't feel good because you're not gonna know.
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  Speaker 6: Other cars are starting to notice. Yes, yeah, they're like
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  Speaker 6: this guy's just going around in circles.
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  Speaker 3: This guy's advertising something.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, to keep going around.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the inner lane is for continued laps.
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  Speaker 6: I also, but I also get in the I get
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  Speaker 6: in the right lane immediately because I have a like
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  Speaker 6: I get. I get in the right lane when I'm
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  Speaker 6: like five miles away from my exit, because I'm always
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  Speaker 6: convinced that I'm gonna suddenly miss it or I'm not
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  Speaker 6: gonna be able to merge over. So I get what
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  Speaker 6: I get. Like that, like just driving on a highway,
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  Speaker 6: I'll get over to the right lane early. Oh so
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  Speaker 6: I get over to the right lane as soon as
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  Speaker 6: I get into a road.
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  Speaker 3: I see.
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  Speaker 9: So if you're on the outer lane, are you not
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  Speaker 9: preventing other cars? To me, that's like a more dangerous
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  Speaker 9: lane because cars could you could come in and not
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  Speaker 9: see you.
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  Speaker 3: Buddy.
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  Speaker 9: These things are hard for me, and I don't like
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  Speaker 9: the fact that nobody gave me a soft software upgrade
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  Speaker 9: on how to do them. Yeah, America, those are European.
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  Speaker 9: That's fast, that's fucking socialism.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I to be honest, I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: It came over and nobody, nobody upgraded the people who
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  Speaker 9: were taught and drivers said how to take traffic stops, intersections, Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: with traffic lights the American way. Let your car idle
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  Speaker 9: spew that black smoke out to thin the ozone layer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: roll the coal as they say.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 9: And now we've got these weird you know, communist traffic circles.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's probably for like jam packed rotaries, probably for
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  Speaker 6: when there's a ton of traffic, so that if you're
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  Speaker 6: not getting off and that lines at that line's long
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  Speaker 6: as hell, you can get into the inner lane and
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  Speaker 6: then go around that line and get back into the
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  Speaker 6: right lane.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, so you're talking about two.
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  Speaker 6: Some rotaries have a stoplight at like like when you
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  Speaker 6: get off, and then those overflow that's dudes.
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  Speaker 3: Literally they don't have a stoplight to get off the circle.
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  Speaker 6: No, Like, once you're off the circle, there can be
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  Speaker 6: a stoplight right there and then that can cause traffic,
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  Speaker 6: Like when you get off of when you get through
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  Speaker 6: the hall In Tunnel and you get into New York
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  Speaker 6: and there's that.
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  Speaker 3: You're not thinking that is not a traffic circle.
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  Speaker 6: I know what a roador is. That's the only example
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  Speaker 6: I can think, though.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't even go all the way around.
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  Speaker 6: It's a sick I've only ever been I've only ever
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  Speaker 6: been on the first quarter of it, so I don't
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know that. But there's a traffic light once
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  Speaker 6: you turn off the first exit. Doesn't it strike that
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  Speaker 6: starts to overflow?
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  Speaker 9: Doesn't it strike you as rather obvious that when you
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  Speaker 9: come out of the Holland Tunnel, you don't have to
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  Speaker 9: look to your left to see if more cars are
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  Speaker 9: coming around the circle. There's just a wall of concrete there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I never actually looked. And you go up a rank,
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  Speaker 6: I kind of just follow the herd.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you go up and around and it's
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  Speaker 9: a c The last stop I think is Canal Street.
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  Speaker 6: I'd assume it's probably for traffic. We know what it's for.
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  Speaker 9: We know what it's for, And I do believe the
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  Speaker 9: science that traffic circles are a more efficient way to
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  Speaker 9: keep traffic moving. Yeah, van an intersection with traffic lights.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: My issue, little Sasquatch, is that nobody has taught me
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  Speaker 9: how to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 6: It seems like it's pretty self Explanatory's probably why they
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  Speaker 6: didn't teach.
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  Speaker 9: You don't have a good answer for when you go
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  Speaker 9: to the middle versus stay on the outside. You just
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  Speaker 9: said what you prefer to do. Yeah, I think that's
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  Speaker 9: what everyone prefers to do. That's why no one goes
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  Speaker 9: in the middle. Well, but that's not the way, though
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  Speaker 9: there may be Why would they have two lanes. There
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  Speaker 9: must be a reason to keep two lanes. And think
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  Speaker 9: about this. Think about how hard it is to switch
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  Speaker 9: lanes when you're on a curve.
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  Speaker 6: It is, you drift out, but then you gotta rip
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  Speaker 6: back because you're curving again. It's not tough, though, it's
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  Speaker 6: really not. I've never thought about this ever. Then you
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  Speaker 6: haven't been a small thought. No, you haven't been in
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  Speaker 6: a complicated one. I was in one the other day
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  Speaker 6: and I said to myself, I'm so scared right now
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  Speaker 6: that I'm just gonna keep going round. I grew up
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  Speaker 6: in town. We had three rotaries in our town. I'm
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  Speaker 6: gonna wait till this third fins a little. Yeah, wait
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  Speaker 6: till it fins out, and we could be here a while.
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  Speaker 6: So you just went around a bunch.
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  Speaker 9: I went around at least one and a half times.
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  Speaker 9: I also again the fucking navigation, that gradual line that
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  Speaker 9: sends you out.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah of the circle. Yeah, it could have applied to
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  Speaker 6: four different says yeah. That shit infuriates me.
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  Speaker 3: It infuriates me. It infuriates me.
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  Speaker 6: When you're on a long drive and it says you're
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  Speaker 6: turning right in fifteen miles and then out of nowhere. Oh,
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  Speaker 6: I guess I was supposed to turn right back there.
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  Speaker 6: But you're like, well, why didn't it tell me that
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  Speaker 6: that was clearly a right turn? Why did it not
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  Speaker 6: tell me about that turn?
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  Speaker 3: Are you telling me about when there's a fork.
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  Speaker 6: In the road and they're like, you were supposed to
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  Speaker 6: go that, and it's like, well, how did I How
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  Speaker 6: was I supposed to know that?
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  Speaker 3: Wait?
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  Speaker 9: Are you saying you add you miss a turn that
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  Speaker 9: they didn't tell you. I don't tell you fifteen miles
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  Speaker 9: to your track, No.
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  Speaker 6: Like it says your next turn is in fifteen miles,
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  Speaker 6: but secretly it turns out your next turn was actually
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  Speaker 6: supposed to be in three hundred feet or in two miles.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: That's sounds like you've got some faulty software there. Google Maps,
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  Speaker 6: they tend to be the best. Yeah, they are the
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  Speaker 6: gold standard. I because I was. I was very pro
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  Speaker 6: Apple Maps for a while, and then I used to
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  Speaker 6: New Jersey.
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  Speaker 3: It's fucking weird.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and then I went to New Jersey with John
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: Kennedy and Brandon Burrera for to go to New Brunswick,
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: and my god, did we have a hard time. Apple
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: masps could not, for the life of it figure out
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: where we were.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I can't believe you were using Apple.
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: Mass It had us like in the middle of the Hudson.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: That's the woke map company. Their narrator is Arab.
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: No, you can actually change it to like any voice really. Yeah,
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: on ways you can have your narrator be DJ Khaled.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Is that so?
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah? I don't know who would ever want that, But
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: it's for somebody, I guess. Maybe it's for DJ Khalid.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: I don't know who could possibly be, Like, you know what,
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: make this eight hour drive go a little faster? DJ
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Khaled yelling the directions every thirty seconds. Maybe it's for
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: like because you know when you you know, when you
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: listen a lot of music and then it cuts off
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: the music. Maybe it's like if you're a Migos fan,
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: so that it he chimes in and you don't even
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: notice that, you don't even notice that it cut off
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: the music, dude.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: When I used to.
• 17:11
  Speaker 9: When I was in high school, when I when I
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: first started smoking weed, I didn't want to drive high,
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: but you know occasionally you would.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: I never have really, no, never. I didn't really smoke
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: weed in high school.
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: So this was before I knew that driving high was like, well,
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: I don't think anyone fundamentally like illegal, yeah, or you're
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: actually impaired. There was always this like narrative among at
• 17:38
  Speaker 9: least high school idiots.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that it was like fun, driving high is fine.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: Don't drive drunk, yeah, don't drive drunk, but driving high
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: it's fine.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: No, everyone that seemed to be like, turns out that's wrong. Yeah.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Among my friend group, that was like a never, Like
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: I've watched my friends take like a two gram dab
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: and then drive home and no one whatever even be
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: like Texas when you get home, it would just be
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: like I'll see tomorrow, dude, I No one even considered
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: the idea of that being a bad thing.
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I used to be so paranoid driving high and
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: all the rap music back then, fifty cent they would
• 18:12
  Speaker 9: always have sirens in them.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, And I'm telling you, I'd be listening to some
• 18:19
  Speaker 9: rap or something. I'd be on the highway and one
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: of these fucking like you know, uh, what's that guy's name?
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: Fabulous songs. Yeah, I'd be listening to and there'd be
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: a siren that would come on in the background, and
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: I would be looking over my shoulder pulling off the
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: into the fucking breakdown. Yeah yeah, yeah, because I'm like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: I'm getting pulled over. My life's over. I should I
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: call my parents now? Yeah, Like what's the bail going
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: to be? You know, YadA YadA. And then you'd see
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: no police cars go by, and you'd be like, oh,
• 18:50
  Speaker 9: it's this rap music.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe I should switch the pop down.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah. When I was in fifth grade, we kid brought
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: a speaker on our bus and played sirens through the speaker,
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: and the bus driver pulled over and we were on
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: the highway and it was a big deal. People got
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: in a lot of trouble for that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: He played only sirens.
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: He turned his speaker on and he played police sirens. Wow,
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: like super loud. And then it was like this old
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Vietnam veteran bus driver. I don't know why bus drivers Like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: if you're a veteran and you're a bus driver, I
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: think you're like required to wear your full uniform to
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: work every day. He never told anyone he was a
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: Vietnam VET. You just knew because every single pair of
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: clothes he had fatigue. He had Vietnam veteran on.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right right.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: They must just send you like a fucking care package
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: once a week with just a full jumpsuit.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I also have.
• 19:40
  Speaker 9: This is something I've always been troubled by. I'm pretty
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: sure you can buy those.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: I have.
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: Fully commit stolen valor through a gift shop in Times
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: Square of purchasing a thing that says like Korean War
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: vet or Yeah.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: I have a Korean Korea vet shirt. It's like the
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: coolest shirt I own. It's a six shirt. It says
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: like the Forgotten War on it. It's an awesome shirt,
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: but I can't every time I wear it. And I
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: posted like an Instagram story wearing it one time. People
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: were furious. I didn't realize it was that big of
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: a deal. I bought it at a thrift store, right, yeah,
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: I think it is. Yeah, I don't wear it anymore,
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: but no one's looking at me being like wow, really.
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: I wonder if yeah, well he looks young. He must
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: have been in the back. He must have been cooking
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: in the mess hall. You were the dermatologist for the
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: Korean War veterans. I do wonder if if you had
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: a parent or a grandparent who was who fought in
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: one of those wars, and you wore their shirt to
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: honor them, is that acceptable?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I doubt it.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: No, I think it probably is. If it was like
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: your grandfather was in the Korean War, you could probably
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: wear Korean War but you'd have to explain to people. Yeah,
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: but it's a pretty easy cop out. If someone was like,
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: what is why you're.
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, sure, and got mad at you for wearing a
• 21:05
  Speaker 9: Korean War vet shirt, to me, that's kind of silly
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: because you're really not trying to pass no.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: And then you'd be like, my grandfather's in the Korean War.
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: And yeah, and you do know that the Korean War
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: was like sixty years ago, right, yes, saying that I'm
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: not saying that to you. I'm saying something someone who's
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: mad at you for wearing that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Derek Dresher claims that it's still go It never ended
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: out a ceasefire the Korean War, Yeah, because he was
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: stationed in Korea in like two thousand and two or
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: some shit.
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: Derek Dresher was, Yeah, I didn't know that he was
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: in the military.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: He never talks about it. I don't know why. He
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: has hilarious stories.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: That's cool, that's cooler.
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, then I gotta tell you, if I did one
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: week in the military, I would be telling stories about it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I always tell him.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: I talked about that on stage and he's like, I
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: don't want to be like a military comic.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: But I'm like, that's not that's not a thing. There
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: aren't many.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, true, there are comic.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Rob Briggle was a big time There's a.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: Lot of comedians that there's like a there's a good
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: amount of comedians that are that are veterans.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Is that so?
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: I have no idea?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Can you name one more? Do you have one?
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: Uh? The guy that opened for me in Portland, Shane
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: was his name.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Oh you know who was.
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: In the military. Uh, Austin comic, really really funny black.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: Comic Brian Simpson. Yes, really, yeah he was. Now we
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: got three right off the top.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: He's really good. Yeah, he was in the military.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: He's really funny. I watched Special. I told no, you didn't.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: I watched it a special before I watched Special the
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: day it came out. It was very, very funny. I
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: watched it because I wanted to see what the mother
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: ship looks like he shot it. But then I watched it,
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: I was like, damn, this is fucking fun.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: It's really good. He's sort of like Hannibal a little.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, how I didn't obviously I didn't do comedy
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: when Hannibal was super big. But when he was really big,
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: was he like the biggest?
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Uh? I no, But but it.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Was like he was like a theater because I know
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: he was kind of like unbelievable or was he like
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: but it was like like, I know, like among comedians
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: everyone says that, but was he like.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: Well, he ran that show. He ran that show in
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: Williamsburg with Eric Hundre. Yeah, Think at the Knitting Fact,
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: which became a cult classic show that everyone would go to.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: Passed it down to different people. As they were blowing
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: up and the two of them. Obviously Hannibal was eric
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: right hand man. Yeah, I don't know what's up with Hannibal.
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: I haven't seen him in a little bit, but he.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: The funniest bit on that One of my favorite bits
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: on that show is when Hannibal sings uh hard in
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: the paint by Walk of Flaka and they bleep every
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: curse word aside for the M word.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, so that's roundabouts. Yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of just in cruise control because I really
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: overestimated or underestimated how much time I had between my
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: don't Tail set and my going to Wyoming trip, because
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: I was under the impression that I was coming home
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: from San Diego, and like, just like leaving for Wyoming,
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: my bag has been fully packed for two weeks, like
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: to the point that like my shit is in like
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: the waterproof bags in my bag, My fishing rods are
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: strapped to the side of my bag. Like I'm ready.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: I've been ready to go for over a week, just gone. Yeah,
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: like I didn't book I have I've had I had
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: to one show this weekend and I have one show
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: this week. I didn't put in any spots because I
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: was like, well, I'm gonna be in Wyoming by then,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: and then I realized it's this Friday, and then this
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: it's not even like it's this Friday. And then We're
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: not leaving until Sunday. So I'm not even going to
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: go fishing until a week from today, right, So by
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: that trip, I'm pumped about that.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Really. Yeah, Oh I didn't know.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm very excited.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: Things have things have changed around a lot, keep having
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: to keep on having to change locations because we were
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: going to go up to the mountains, and then we
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: realized that, well, apparently there's like so there's all these
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: like regulations and shit for Wyoming because it's so because
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: the fires, it's so dry out there, so apparently you
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: can't have a campfire in Wyoming above ninety two hundred feet, right,
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: And the hike that we were going to do was
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: the entire thing was above ninety two hundred feet.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, are you gonna bring an altimeter?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: What's that It tells you how high up you are? Oh?
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: No, it just says on all trails, like it starts
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: at like nine thousand, five hundred wow. And then it
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: goes up to like twelve thousand, so we wouldn't have been.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Able to do a fire. Well, no, it doesn't, yeah
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: it does. Twelve thousand.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, why is that crazy?
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: Because you're not going to go up that high that's snow,
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: I think, yeah, where it's what we're not going anymore.
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: You originally had planned to be camping at twelve thousand.
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: Twelve thousand feet is the tops of like Veil Mountain
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: and yeah, places like that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: I've gone on a hikes that high before though.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you're right in the summer, I guess it's
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: not snow.
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Twelve thousand's high, but it's not like like fourteen thousand
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: is where you're like really high. Yeah, that's crazy, but
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: twelve thousands high? What's the highest you've ever been in
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: your life? Twelve thousand?
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You've been to twelve thousand, Yeah.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: But I've been to twelve thousand. I went to twelve
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: thousand on tell your Ride, so I guess it was skiing.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've been to no though one.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: I did one in Wyoming that was probably close to
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: twelve thousand. It might have been more towards eleven thousand,
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: but that was fine. Like that was like we we
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: went swimming in that it was fucking freezing.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done some glacial swims.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: It's sick.
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: As it gets. Yeah, does feel pretty, it's chilly. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: was in the French Alps and I did that. Yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 9: it's hiked up the steepest thing I've ever hiked, and
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: then hiked down to a basin and swim.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: That the That's why we wanted to go fishing at
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: an alpine lake because you can you're just site fishing.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: You can just see the fish everywhere.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: But yeah, we decided it's going to be too cold
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: at this time of year. You got to go in
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: like August.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Can you tell me a little bit about surf casting.
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: No, I don't know anything about it. What is surf casting?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I don't. I'd never heard of it either.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: What is it just casting on the shore?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess I guess you're casting over
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the wave break.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's I think it's just casting from
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: the show.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Someone was telling me about it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: I don't. I haven't really done saltwater fishing outside of
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: with you in a while.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I know the term Are you eating a lot of
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: fish these days?
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: No, So that's like another thing. It's like, like, so
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: we the plan was to do we were gonna go
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: to this one river in Wyoming. That's that's that my
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: buddy knows about. It's really good. And we were then
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: we were gonna go up to elk or not to
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: Cloud Wilder, Cloud Peak Wilderness, that's what it's called. And
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: then I emailed them. I emailed their like conservation office,
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: and I was like, what's to do with the fires?
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: And instead of just I just wanted someone to tell
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: me that you can do a fire, because all these
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: lists online are like here's what you can't do. They
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: don't tell you what you can do. They just tell
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: you what you can't do. So then you just got
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: to go buy like elimination, Like okay, so I guess
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: we can't do that, we can't do this, Maybe we
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: can do this. And then I emailed them and they
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: just sent me the exact same list that was online
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: and they were like, oh, by the way, there's also
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: food storage regulations right now too for bear for bears.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so then we would.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: Have to bring a bear box which is heavy and
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: put all of your food into a bear box, which
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: then that takes up like not because like you can
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: bring food and it's not going to take up a
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: ton of space in your back because you're just squishing
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: it into random places. Then if you have in this
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: massive box, it's going to take up half your backpack.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: So it was just like, all right, we can't. This
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: is not going to be enjoyable. We can't do this. Also,
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: like half the fun of it is sitting at a
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: fire at night.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: That's the best party, that's the whole point.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're like, we're not gonna all huddle around
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: a fucking propane stove at night. No, No, with like
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: head lamps on, Like that sucks. So now we're just
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: doing We're just going to do fish rivers all week.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Oh perhaps some creeks. No, no hiking at all, No,
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: which I'm absolutely fine with.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're still sleeping outside.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: We're still sleeping outside our camping every night.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: And you'll be able to do your fires. Yeah.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: But I'm like, dude, the whole entire trip, I've been
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: like planning the trip, I've been like I want to
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: fish all day, yeah, and now we're going to be
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: doing that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: It's you Peters Bo, Yeah, that's it. Is there any
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: chance I could come? And I'm being.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: Serious honestly, Yeah, if you wanted to.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: It would be like.
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: The thing that sucks about that is that. The thing
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: that sucks about stuff like that, though, is that because
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: then there's one person on the trip who's not as
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: good as fishing and everyone else and then we have
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: to like tie on your flies, right.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: And I don't want to do that to the group.
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: And also knowing you know, I'm a quick study, so
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: I would pick it up so fast that it would
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: be me and Bow leaving the pack down. Peter's a
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: little behind us, and all of a sudden it's you
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: at the bottom and we're tying your flies and we're
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: quietly talking, like you.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: Know, it is kind of a it's kind of like
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: a demasculating feeling having someone else tie on your It's
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: like having like it's like when I played hockey, and
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: there'd always be like one kid who was a little
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: too old to have his dad be in the locker
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: room tying his skates on for him. He'd be like,
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: you're strong enough to be able to tie your skates
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: like everyone else. They learn you learned like I think
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: like probably like fourth grade is probably like the barrier
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: where it's like the parents stop coming in the locker room.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: Now we talk about guy stuff, grabbing pussy and whatnot,
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: and and it would be weird because then there would
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: be like one kid who he'd like, like the coach
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: would be like giving us the pregame talk, and then
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: the dad would be like standing outside of the locker
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: room and the kid would just be sitting there with
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: his skates untied, and then we'd all have to wait
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: while the dad comes in. All right, guys, enough about
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: the pussy talk. This guy's coming in to tie his
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: skates coincidentally would usually be like the best player on
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: the team. He'd be like because his dad had like
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: a certain way that he tied the skates. I remember
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: one the one game my dad decided to my dad
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: like read something online and was like, I'm gonna tie
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: your skates pretty loose today. Is like apparently it's better
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: for your ankles or some shit. Could literally couldn't couldn't
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: skate at all.
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: I don't understand when I try to skate. I guess
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: you just get used to it. But the skates feel
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: so weird to me. I feel like I'm just wobbling around.
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: They don't feel tight to my foot, they don't think
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: and maybe I'm wearing ones that are too big or not.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: You like rentals?
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: You ever get your actual own skates?
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: No?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't deserve them.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's why, because when you have your actual
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: skates that are like fit perfectly to your feet, oh,
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: it just feels like you're wearing shoes when to.
• 32:32
  Speaker 9: Hear crazy story. Sure hockey was big where I grew up. Yeah,
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: Maine Main was huge. Actually, Paul Korea went to the
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: University of Maine. They had a national championship contending, if
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: not winning program when I was in middle school. Yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: they went to the Frozen Four. And I think they
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: actually went to the national championship.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: What college University of Maine? Oh really, yeah they know
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: University of Main competed in the Frozen Four.
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, the Black Bears. Yeah. It's up in or And No.
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: Probably one of the worst places to go to college
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: in America. Why it is so far away in the
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: middle of fucking nowhere. There's nothing for me.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: I know a couple people that go to University of Man.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: They love it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: I think people like it. Yeah, but you're not. I
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: mean getting back to school from wherever you live. I
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: think it's a lot of people from Maine who go there.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: That's where a beer dye was invented. Really a University
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: of Maine.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Is that true?
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: I believe so. Yeah. And interesting that's my friend that
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: went to University of Maine. A lot about it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: Interesting. Well, anyway, they do have good colors. I like
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: the colors, the light blue and the Navy and all that.
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: So they is that true?
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: On?
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Wow? Yeah? Wow? Interesting fun fact? All right, what are
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: we talking about? Hockey?
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: Hockey?
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: I grew up in Freeport, Maine, and I had two
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: very I had a very very probably my closest friend
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: in middle school, who was a very good hockey player. Yeah,
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: and played you know, mites or yuck yuck Yeahewe's hippins
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: or whatever the fuck you guys called it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: Middle school was probably Peewe's Pewey's yeah you go. And
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: then I had another very good friend who was also
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: hockey player, went to a different school and he anyway,
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to give too many details because the
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: story gets weird. So I guess they were playing in
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: a travel hockey game. Against each other and the game
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: that one team is losing by like three goals or something.
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: So the game's over and one of my buddies, my
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: my best friend, is sort of skating around and you know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: killing the last couple of seconds on the clock. And
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: then my other friend and they were not friends, yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: came up and I guess hit him pretty dirty. Yeah,
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: last second of the game and decked him. Yeah, crosscheck
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: to the neck whatever, peeweez doo.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know pewe's I don't know what it was.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I wasn't there, but.
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: Everyone's screaming, oh, bro about you know, game ends. My
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: best friend's dad, very respected member of Maine society, is
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: so angry at this that he went into the opposing
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: team's locker room damn with a hockey stick and brandished
• 35:35
  Speaker 9: it at my other friend and screamed at him and
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: was like shaking the stick. That family of my other
• 35:47
  Speaker 9: friend sued my best friend's family, and it became sort
• 35:52
  Speaker 9: of a high profile case.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah I'm sure, and they claimed, you know, emotional damage
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: and psych logical harm and he'd been never been the
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: same ever since this incident. All that, and then ultimately
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: the case the judge or whatever was like, these claims.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Are completely baseless.
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, and then they saw the parents saw
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: each other at a high school game and started like
• 36:25
  Speaker 9: getting into a fight there. Really, and I think someone
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: I hope people might be able to figure out this story,
• 36:33
  Speaker 9: so I don't want to. I don't even really care
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: with public knowledge. But the point is I was friends
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: with both of these guys.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: No one is going to be able to find this story.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: It's old.
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that will.
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: I think one of the we used to one of
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: the schools I went to. The there was a big
• 36:49
  Speaker 9: hill that went down to the sort of soccer field
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: football field, and that's where people would sit yeh. And
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: at that game, my friend's dad went to mock the
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: other family for losing the case. Yeah, and was like
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: this guy is here to sue everybody, and his other.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Son pushed him down the hill.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: Damn.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I think that's right.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: That's crazy. We had a hill like that too, yeah,
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: but for football, yeah yeah, and I remember that's why
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: people would like go do drugs on the hill.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Oh really, like.
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: People at our football games, people would like wear Viking
• 37:30
  Speaker 9: helmets and then like get to bring a sled and
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: they led down the hill.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: Well, I guess you, guys, there's probably snowy all the time.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: No, no, this was in the football season in the fall.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Oh, I guess y, I probably know snow not yet,
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: not yet soon.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: The point is.
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: I never could commentate on this. It was one of
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: those things that I was friends with both guys. Yeah,
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: both better friends with one of them. Yeah, and uh,
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: super weird, super uncomfortable. Yeah, it's pretty uncomfortable, crazy, right. Yeah,
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: I'm trying to think if we haven't get.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: Any like big sports scandals like that, not really, because
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: I don't. My town was very like you knew who
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: you knew in your town. You didn't know people in
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: other towns. Really, Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: A lot of your towns were big Maine, I knew
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: you knew everybody within two towns.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we didn't know. I didn't know. But also, my
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: town's not big. It's sixteen thousand people.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Is that big?
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: That seems pretty good size. I don't Can you look
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: up the population of of Yarmouth, Maine.
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't know. I I it's probably grown a
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: lot over the eight thousand, so half the size of yours.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: And that's grown eight thousand. Yeah, it's pretty small.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: That was like one of the more medium sized towns
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: in Maine. Yeah, so they would always it was class A, B,
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: C D based on the size of your school. Yeah,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: we were class B. Class A was the biggest.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: Interesting. Yeah, yeah, that was like a foreign concept. Like
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: we didn't. I don't know anybody from the town's outside
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: of my town. I never did.
• 39:14
  Speaker 9: I proved to be not cool enough to date the
• 39:19
  Speaker 9: girls at my own high school, so I just started
• 39:21
  Speaker 9: dating girls at other high schools. Yeah, because I could
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: come in. I made a good first impression. Yeah, but
• 39:27
  Speaker 9: when people got to know me, they were like this
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: guy sucks. Yeah, he listens to really weird music. Yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 9: or sings in an a cappella group. Does theater might
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: be gay?
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like I don't not even no one from none
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: of my friends dated anyone outside of our town. Nothing.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Wow, you guys are real small tower home town. Very Yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: that's crazy. There were such cute girls at other schools.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: You didn't. You never wanted to go fishing in the stream,
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: never saw them ever.
• 39:56
  Speaker 9: Never even saw them. You never went to like a
• 39:58
  Speaker 9: rival high school's dance. Now, you know, shake the old
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: leg behind enemy lines. Never guys that you have to
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: used to gear up and go to war against in
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: a big game under their lights. Now all of a
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: sudden you're dancing, you know, jigging it up with their girls.
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: And no, never, once, no, never. Multi town parties, multibe
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: I just wasn't invited to those ones. But no, never, No,
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: I genuinely can't think of a single person who lived
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: outside of my town.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Did you go to parties in high school?
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: Not really, like maybe a couple. I think I did,
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: like a little bit junior year of high school, and
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: then senior years when we started getting uninvited from parties
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: are very strange. It was like the opposite like usually
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: people it's like they don't get invited to parties like
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: for the first couple of years of high school, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: then like their later years, you had to be invited.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: It wasn't just free for all house.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: No, there's like vivid memories of like us like texting
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: people be like hey could we come and they're like, nah, yeah,
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: I had that too with my buddies. So you mind
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: if we come through? Yeah?
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, dude, I'm gonna here's why.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: Not even a reason why. I just like, no, this
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: is a great point.
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: I'm really glad you brought this up, because I'm going
• 41:14
  Speaker 9: to resolve another beef here and this one, this one
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: is my own. So I had a party my sophomore year.
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: My parents were out of town, and so I had
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: just gone to a new school. I went to Yarmou
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: High School. I just switched there from Chevro's. Yeah, and uh,
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: I was the new kid, and I was friends with
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: a lot of the seniors because I had made the
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: soccer team and they were they were took a shine
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: to me. I was friends with all the older kids.
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: I thought I was cool. That wore off quick.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: But in the first couple of weeks of my sophomore year,
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: in the fall soccer season, life was good. I was
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: riding high people trying to figure out what to do
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: for the weekend.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, my parents are out. Yeah. Whoops, yeah, whoops.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: That starts getting around and you know, people are coming,
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: and uh, it's starting to get a little out of
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: my control. Like, you know, people are just whatever, They're
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: just spilling beers. It's like immediately, the idea of getting
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: away with this where my parents aren't going to find out,
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: seems like it's getting farther.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: And farther away. But this kid showed up, Kevin. His
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: name was Kevin. I can't remember his last name. If
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: I knew what, i'd say it because fuck this kid.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: And he was a year older than me. He hadn't
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: been invited. I didn't know him. And he shows up
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: and he rings the doorbell. He's got a case of
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: beer and he's like, can I come in? And I
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: was like, dude, I'm sorry, but like this is already
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: way more than I can handle, Like I'm terrified right now,
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: I'm full or whatever. And then he just like went
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: and sat in his car and drank with another guy
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: named Rob. And then other people who were inside the
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: party kept coming to me and being like, dude, Kevin's
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: a good guy. Yeah, he's just sitting outside like he's
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: sure he can't, like he's sure he can't let him in.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: Finally I was like, all right, fuck it, whatever, yeah, fine,
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: let him in. So he comes in. Thanks me, fuck it,
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: get Kevin in here. The year goes by, Kevin has
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: a party. Oh yeah, this is always a problem in
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: high school.
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: And I text them, yeah, hey, man, can I come?
• 43:26
  Speaker 9: And he's like, sorry, man, no, and it's like, dude,
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: whatever happened short memory on you?
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Kevin? Yeah, you fucking dick. Yeah.
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: He was the goalie on the hockey team. Ah yeah,
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: and he had a hot younger sister. But I couldn't
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: she wasn't interested in me because that would have been
• 43:47
  Speaker 9: a good way to get revenge.
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: Fuck his sister.
• 43:50
  Speaker 9: Sure, I mean that I was thinking make out with her.
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: But if you want to go there, you know that's fine.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Fuck. What was his name, Kevin something mum?
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: Anyway, you know what gives me peace is that I
• 44:07
  Speaker 9: think that a lot of those people are living pretty
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: shitty lives right now. Yeah, not all of them, but
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: some of them. I like to think that Kevin is
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: washing dishes at the Do.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: You think he still lives in Maine?
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Probably? Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: A lot of people move something I've noticed many tried
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: and then they came back. But also because it means
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: it's just a great place to live. It is a
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: nice place. I'd like to go up to Maine. There's
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: really good fishing up there. We would do some good
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: fishing up in Maine, pow. We really would.
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: In fact, a fan DMed me fan of this show
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: and was like, hey, next time you're up in Maine.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I run a brewery like up.
• 44:46
  Speaker 9: North, and we have boats and if you guys ever
• 44:49
  Speaker 9: want to do some salmon fishing, oh, I'll take you
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: out gear you up.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: I would be sick. Salmon fishing will be sick.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: What's the deal with salmon? How long do salmon live?
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: They live very short lives, right, Is that so I
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: think they live? I don't know what there. I know
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: some salmon like die at the end of the season.
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, there's Uh, there's the thing about salmon, and you
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: probably don't know this one to three years.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: The thing about salmon is that they there's all kinds
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: of different salmon.
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: I know that.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: So there's salmon. There's freshwater salmon. There's saltwater salmon. Yeah.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: How did you know that? I did. There's coho. Yeah,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: there's sake. Yeah.
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: Uh, there's king Aura Ura king might be another one. Ye,
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: all of these are salmon. Yeah, there's a ton of salmon.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: I think there's silver silver backed salmon. Perhaps, No, there's
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: a gorilla's silver. There's definitely a silver salmon. Well, I
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: think they're all pretty silver.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Hey, what's going on there? Pal We saw you the
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: hockey game market.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: So I know you guys.
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: I'm Ryan Whitney.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: I got a drink named after me. I think Whitney.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought, Fellas.
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: I invented the thing you pigeoned Pink Whitney for legendary
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: moments the show.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: Co Ho co Hoo, I already said that one. I
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: think that's what I think.
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: Sometimes people will refer to as coh as silver No no, no, yeah,
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: I can see how it says coho and then in
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: parentheses silver salmon.
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: That's just to make sure people know exactly which one
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: they're talking about. That's like, you know, if you're telling
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: you a child like you can also call out a
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: silver to a child to let them know.
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: King salmon are sick. King salmon get huge the best.
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: But apparently from I've heard from some other anglers up
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: up north in the Upper two that uh that the
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: king salmon population is declining.
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think we overfished, yeah a little bit. But
• 46:43
  Speaker 9: someone was also telling me that if you get out
• 46:45
  Speaker 9: to Alaska the right time of year, you throw a
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: line in the water, it is a frenzy. Yeah, you
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: can't catch too many.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: I heard one of my agents was telling me that
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: there was a comedian who was supposed to do a
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: show and Anchorage and he didn't realize that the show
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: was booked for opening day of salmon fishing season in
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: Alaska and he had to move the show.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, it's that big of a deal. Huh.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's so sick.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: That's like.
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: But that's also I don't think Anchorage. I think Anchorage, like,
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: I think that part of Alaska has like decent, like
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: obviously compared to the Lower forty eight, it has like
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: unbelievable fishing. But I think when you get north of
• 47:26
  Speaker 6: not but because that like that around Anchorage, that area
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: that's where you see those videos of people where it's
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: like ten.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Thousands walk across the water pretty much.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's like the ones where it's like there's like, oh,
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: there's like thousands of people all fishing the exact and
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: they're not even like fishing. They're just trying to like
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: snag a fish. So they're just taking the line and
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: just going and then ripping it out, just doing that
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: for hour, and it's like people wearing like jeans and
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: they're like three hundred pounds, disgusting, disgusting, just wearing their
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: slacks and loafers, knee deep in the wall.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, damn, Well, I don't know. I think it'd
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: be fun to do a little bit of a fishing
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: trip with you. I'm not gonna call Alaska. I love
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: to go to I appreciate the the invite to Wyoming, but.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: An invite, I don't think it was more just like
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: we wouldn't decline. No, I know, if you were like
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: I bought the ticket, I wouldn't be like.
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: Well, well, just I mean for you, for you to
• 48:24
  Speaker 9: tell me there's a spot for me, I feel bad
• 48:27
  Speaker 9: saying I can't make it.
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: So the problem is like we already got the three
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: person tent and you're like two people alone. So because
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: sometimes we'll get a two person tent and we'll just
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: sleep horizontal. We'll sleep like perpendicular to the way that
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: you're supposed to.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: What perpendicular? Well sarallel?
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: No, perpendicular.
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: You're not going to sleep at a tea in a tent.
• 48:53
  Speaker 9: That's crazy. What are you talking about?
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: Well, I would think parallel would be sleeping the long way,
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: so we'll sleep the short way.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Well, the short way of sleeping in a tent is
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: to scrunch your knees up and sleep on your side.
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: See, but that that's what I'm saying, is that you
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: would have to do that. We just sleep normal because
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: we can still fit the LN.
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: Or I get a fucking another three person tent and
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: Bo and Peters by night too are crashing with me
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: because the vibes are way higher and we both know
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: that's what would happen, and you'd fucking hate me. And
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: there goes the chemistry from the podcast.
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: Sleeping in a tent is awful, and we've already made
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: the We've already made the We had to make a
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: pact and be like, we have to sleep in the
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: tent every time. Really, because when we went to Iceland,
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: the plan was to sleep in a tent every night.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: We slept in a tent for one night and then
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: we got a hotel every single night, remember, and I
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: was like, I can't spend more money on this trip.
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: We're getting the tent. We're not sleeping in a hotel.
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: You do get used to it. If you push yourself
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: hard enough during the day and you have you get
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: to a point of sleep deprivation.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: I do believe you can kind of.
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you can, definitely you can definitely sleep. If
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: you have a good sleeping pad, you can sleep easily.
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: The problem is when we went to Colorado in September,
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: we I don't know why I decided that I was
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: gonna try, and like I was like, that's the thing
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: with these trips is a lot of times you just
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: brush shit off. You're like, oh, well, we're not gonna
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: need that. You'll figure that out. So for some reason
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: I decided to cheap out on We rented sleeping stuff
• 50:23
  Speaker 6: and they were like sleeping pad and I was like, no,
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: we don't need a sleeping pad. Sleeping on the ground, dude.
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: I slept with a fucking boulder wedged into my spine
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: the entire night. It was the worst night of sleep.
• 50:38
  Speaker 6: It's like, now I'm like, oh, I'd rather just sleep
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: in my clothes with a sleeping pad. I'd rather not
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: have a sleeping bag than not have a sleeping pad.
• 50:46
  Speaker 9: I remember, you ever hear you hear stories about people
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: sleeping in their car? Yeah, have you ever slept in
• 50:51
  Speaker 9: your car? Now, I've slept in my car and I'm
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: talking like the front seat. I didn't put the seats
• 50:59
  Speaker 9: down and put a mattress in the Yeah. I slept
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: in my car the way you would if you were
• 51:05
  Speaker 9: sitting in the passenger seat and someone else was drying,
• 51:09
  Speaker 9: and it was awful.
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: It's unbelievable.
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: But those people who are homeless who end up sleeping
• 51:17
  Speaker 9: in their car and doing a sponge bath in the
• 51:20
  Speaker 9: seven to eleven bathroom with the gigantic key.
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: Planet Fitness, they all they are they get fitness memberships.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: I think if you go to Planet Fitness long enough,
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: eventually you'll see like a pack of homeless people wandering
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: and scan their cards. They're all members.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: They're all still jacks.
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: They're like, what's this all about? And then they all
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: scan in and you're like, fuck, they can't even tell
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: them to leave.
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: So uh, my point being though, that those people who
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: sleep in their car night after night, the fact that
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: they're probably not sleeping as badly as I did, because
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: being homeless is very tired. Yeah, and they can you know, dude.
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: Those guys can probably go down for twenty hours no problem,
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: every day.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 9: Barghatsi has that great bit, oh really from a long
• 52:10
  Speaker 9: time ago, by how he's jealous of like the homeless
• 52:12
  Speaker 9: people sleeping on the sidewalks and oh yeah, and he's like,
• 52:15
  Speaker 9: this guy's in bed, he's like a sleep.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: At eight thirty pm. Yeah, he's going to get a
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: good nine and a half hours. Yeah. Yeah, Like I
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: wish I could. I wish I could have my life
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: together like that. Dude.
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: If you get if you're if you give a homeless
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: person like a like a temp repedic mattress, they could
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: probably sleep for like a week straight.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they're like French bulldogs.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: The reason that the main reason, so the so he
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: switched the trip away from the mountain. We're not hiking
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: the mountain. Yeah, I'm bummed about that. I'm not afward
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: to that for us, I'm not bummed. But the main
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: reason was that I went on All Trails Pro membership
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: of course. Yeah, and they tell you the weather, and
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: they tell you the weather on the mountain and I
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: was looking at it and I was like, oh, the
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: place that we're hig it says it's going to be
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: twenty four degrees today. And I was like, this trip's
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: two weeks out. If it's twenty four degrees today, that
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: means that. I mean obviously that was like an it
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: was like an unnormal day that was not that was
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: not an average day, but abnormal. But it was like
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: that means that it could still get into like the
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: thirties and forties while we're out there, it will get.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Into the night. Yeah, freezing.
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: And of course no one believes me because it's just
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: every time I bring up something, it's like, dude, you're
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: so paranoid. You just worry it. And I'm like, well,
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: you just don't. You just you don't always tell the truth.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: But I'm looking at it. I'm looking at it on
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: my fast pH But that is fact. See, this is
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: the exact thing. But you lose credibility. They were like,
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: it's not going to be that cold. I'm like, but
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: it is fact. Scientists are saying, this is what the
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: temperature is there right.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Now, listen man.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: And then so Bo was like, I'm going to go
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: do a little test hike. I'm gonna go see how
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: bad it is.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: So he went out to call, Oh, he's out he's
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: not out there. No.
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: He did one night. This was this was like this weekend.
• 54:01
  Speaker 6: So he went out to Colorado. He did a test
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: hike and he said he said that he thinks that
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: if we did the original hike that we were planning
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: on doing that we wouldn't be friends with him anymore
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: because of how miserable it would be. He said that
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: it was freezing and he was thunderstorming the entire time,
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: and he said that at one point he was praying
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: to God, asking asking to stop the rain.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: How hard it was raining.
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: He said, it was like Lord of the Ring. It's
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: like lighting bolts are shooting down around him, and he
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: was like there was nothing he could do because he
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: couldn't it was pitch blackout. He couldn't get his ship
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: and leave, so he had to just like hope that
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: no trees fell on him. In the middle of the
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: night he slept out there. Yeah wow, yeah, So now
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: we are sticking to around seven thousand feet.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: That sounds right, Yeah, that sounds like the right call.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: How long are you going for.
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: A long time? Six six nights so seven days of fishing.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: What happens if you guys get into a fight.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: There will be a blowout, really, there always is, but
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: there will be a there will We've already made jokes
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: about it, like there's gonna be like a borderline tears fight.
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: There always is.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: And what does that usually stem from.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: It's never Matt's never involved. It's always me and bo
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: really because Matt won't Matt will take the bullshit. I
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: don't always all go back in Iceland. The last night
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: we were in Iceland, we were in a hotel lobby,
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: hammered and Me and Bow got into like a four
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: hour argument about if Hitler was a genius.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Or not nice.
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: And he was on the side that he was, and
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: I was on the side that he wasn't. Looking back
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: on it, he's probably right. My argument was that Hitler
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: is not a genius because he was a genius, wouldn't
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: have killed six million Jews. And his thing was, well,
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: to get into the position that he was in so easily,
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: you have to be a genius.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that they're right. I've I've had I've
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: heard that argument. Yeah, I don't.
• 56:15
  Speaker 9: I'm a little confused about And this is going to
• 56:19
  Speaker 9: sound insane. Why what's the correlation between his genocide of
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: the Jews and his intelligence?
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: My thing was that if he was so smart, then
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: he wouldn't have killed all those people, because it's not
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: a smart thing to do.
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: Okay, But like I don't, I don't put it along
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: like smart lines. I put it a that was kind
• 56:39
  Speaker 9: of evil or he's evil.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: That was what the argument was about.
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: But again again, and I don't want to have this
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: with you too. This is not light fodder for a podcast.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: Well, it's like, I don't know. I don't really care.
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: That's the thing. I don't care either. I'm just confused
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: at all. I'm confused by your point. It doesn't see
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know. They Yeah, it probably wasn't relevant.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: Point is Hitler.
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: Hitler was a genius because of how he took over
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: a nation.
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: I don't even think it was that. I think he
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: said we were talking about something and then somehow Hitler
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: came up, and then he called him a genius. And
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: then I was like, he's not a fucking genius, he's
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: an idiot. And then and then it started into this,
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: which is just it's a never ending argument. No right answer.
• 57:30
  Speaker 9: It's just you're to me that argument. The two of
• 57:33
  Speaker 9: you are are sleeping perpendicular to each other.
• 57:35
  Speaker 6: Yes, so that will happen, there will be a fight.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Well, to be honest with you, that's not as bad
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: as what I thought. You're having.
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: You're having fights over weird historical No, but that was
• 57:48
  Speaker 9: because that trip.
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: Was more luxury than it was. But we're doing this
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: time this time, like we've gone fishing together and gotten
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: in big arguments like little, Like it gets to a
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: point on those trips with any of your friends, it
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: gets to a point where there's something little and you
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: need to keep doing it and you keep going. That's
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: that's getting a little annoying.
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: If someone keeps trying to lead and getting you in
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: the wrong exact or you disagree about where you should fish,
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: where you should camp. Someone eats all of the s'more
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: fixings exactly selfishly.
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: With Bo, the big argument that we usually one of
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: the arguments we get usually get into is that when
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: we go fishing, he likes to walk really far down
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: the river and then fish back towards the car, which
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: is smart. It's a smart thing to do. I like
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: to start right at the car, so I'm excited. I
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: want to fish right away, and I like to fish
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: and then work down the river and then just walk back. Sure,
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: because you're not fishing that far. It's like if you
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: end up fishing like two miles.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Listen, half a dozen in one hand, the dozen half
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: in the other. What's that saying six in one hand,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: half a dozen in the other. That might be it.
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounds comming to different strokes.
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: For different folks. Yeah, I got no problem with either
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: of your His feels more efficient.
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: It feels more efficient. But then also then you're setting
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: an end point. When you're fishing down the river. There
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: is no end point. You're just going until you feel
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: like stopping. His it's like we get back.
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: But in theory he could keep going up the up
• 59:18
  Speaker 9: the river past the car.
• 59:20
  Speaker 6: Not really, nobody's doing that, depending on the river because
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: some of those rivers the access gets tight.
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: Okay, so you guys get into these arguments and uh
• 59:32
  Speaker 9: when when they unfold, and do you guys start yelling
• 59:35
  Speaker 9: at each other.
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: No, it's never like it's more like saying really mean
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: things at each other.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: Oh really.
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: No, but like stuff that you'll laugh off. Like it's
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: like you.
• 59:49
  Speaker 9: Guys don't kind of retire to your separate quarters not
• 59:52
  Speaker 9: talk to each other for a while.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: And then Peters isn't.
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: Like, guys, come on, No, he's the middle men.
• 59:57
  Speaker 9: We're all friends here. And then you come back and
• 59:59
  Speaker 9: you guys like apologize to each other.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 6: No, it'll it'll continue. I'll be like, you're a fucking idiot.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: And you just stay angry at each other, like.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: Does not last, but it's never apologize. That's crazy. We
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: got in a big argument in Denver because I made
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 6: fun of him for his glass because he had glasses.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: I didn't think it was a big deal, just just
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: a classic riff, and that was like the most angry
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 6: I've ever seen him. Huh Yeah, and then I apologize.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: I'm on both side here, Yeah, because I love you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: about what what what? You don't even know what the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: arguments are about.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: Just in general, I tend to think that you are
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 9: an incredibly combative person.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's because I'm always right you just you seem
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: to enjoy You seem to enjoy it.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I like to bicker, and I like doing it
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: because it's amusing to me to Yeah, I just take
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: the other side, even though I don't actually believe necessarily
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just little ship. It's not like we don't
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: ever get in like a like an actual argument where
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: it's like you shouldn't have done that. Like it's never
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: like if if you're talking in a calm voice so
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: you don't get personal. No, that's like you guys get personal.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: I mean maybe, but it's not. But that's not it.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: That's not like personal.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: What if those are, It's not like that's source of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: insecurity for him.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe dreams of being in the air force. Well
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: he got lasick like two months later, so maybe it
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: was for the best.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: Wow, you made him do that.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, you do not get in arguments with your friends?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: I do, I do, But are they not? Like we
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: try We try not to. Yeah, see, we don't try
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: not because it ruins the time. Like we got an
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: argument today, like we were yelling at each other the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: over the water levels at the river that we're going.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: To being friends with you must be fucking exhausting.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: But that was a full on like we were yelling,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: like if we were yelling at each other.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: On the phone.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's like, no, but that's not like a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: serious argument.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Sure, no, of course.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's not really anything that I would get that
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: mad about. Now, you don't get you actually don't like
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: if we went on the hike, Like if we did
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: the hike, that would have been worse, Like I would
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: have probably started crying. Yeah, because they are and way better.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: They work out two times a day every day, like
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not built for that. So if we
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: did that, then that would have that would have come
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: to tears.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, I get that, because.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: Then then you start going back. Well I didn't want
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: to go on this trip to begin with. I wanted
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: to go to I wanted to go to Patagonia. Like
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: you start, you start coming up with digs from ship
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: that happened a year ago. Right, this is exactly like Iceland,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: Like that's where it gets per all.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough. Yeah.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: How far away is where you're going from a potential
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 9: hotel room?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: Not far the place that yeah, see, No, that's where
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: the problem started was because we were looking at the
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: first place we're going. It's kind of far, but we're
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: only going there for like two days, so we're obviously
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: going to camp then. And then the second place that
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: we're going, we were looking at one of the places
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 6: to park the car and there was like a lodge
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: like a five hundred feet away, And then I looked
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: at the Google images of the lodge and it looks
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: so sick, and I was like, I feel like we're
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: going to end up here.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: Why don't you?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't mind that for you guys. No,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: I don't think anyone does. But it's also we already
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: spent all the money in all this gear.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you're trying to prove to yours.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: Like at least in Iceland, it was like we rented
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: all of the shit when we got there. Yeah, so
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: it was like we didn't actually buy anything, right, so
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: we don't if we're not going to camp. Also, Iceland
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: it was raining and freezing the entire time.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 9: Right, Okay, yeah, all right, well listen, I'm excited about
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 9: your trip. I'm excited to hear what you guys get into.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm coming back that Monday morning, so we'll record
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  Speaker 6: that day. It'll be fresh, unreal, yeah, sick, it'll be
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  Speaker 6: a fresh.
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  Speaker 3: Is it all catch and release?
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  Speaker 6: So the first place we're going to it's a three
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  Speaker 6: trout limit and it's I think you can't keep anything
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  Speaker 6: over sixteen inches. And then the second place we're going
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  Speaker 6: to it's all kitchen release.
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  Speaker 3: Cool.
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  Speaker 6: But now we're gonna have the car, so we're gonna
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  Speaker 6: be able to just cook. We'll be able to bring
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: a cooler and just bring food and have steaks and shit.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Put the fish on ice. Yeah, drinking some beer.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not a huge catching I'm not a huge catch
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  Speaker 6: and cook person.
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  Speaker 3: Why not.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, Like if you catch like a huge trout,
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  Speaker 6: that's like a rare trout. Don't get that big. So
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  Speaker 6: if you catch a big trout, it kind of feels
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: like fucked up just killing it and eating it.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, but that is also honoring the fish.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but wouldn't you rather just kill small fish.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not really excited about killing fish in general, That's.
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  Speaker 6: What I just said. And then you just said, well,
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  Speaker 6: it's about honoring the fish, and the best way to
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 6: honor it be let it go back and live. I
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 6: don't care.
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  Speaker 9: Ingest it and take its soul into your own and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: then breathe it out into the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not anti catch and cook, but I'm not anti
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  Speaker 6: catching release either, because some people are like some people
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 6: will catch a fish and they don't even know what
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: the fish is, but they're like, well, I'm bringing it home, obviously,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna not eat this fish, like people eat
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: all sorts of fish. Like people go people eat catfish,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: People go catfish fishing, and they just they bring home
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: these fucking eighty pound catfish.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Why you say that is though it's crazy.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: Have you ever looked at a catfish? I want to
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: eat Those things are fucking But I'm also they have
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: like antennas grow up.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: In a fucking Mark Twain novel. Yeah, so that's just
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 9: different for me. It's a different experience. I eat striped bass.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: Stripe bass is great. I would eat any bass, though,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: I would I would eat a largemouth bass.
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  Speaker 3: Those are that's what they are.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: Oceans or large ocean mass are striped bass. You know,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: there's also ocean trout or sea trout. I told you
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: that there were, And then there's lake trout. There's sea trout,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: lake trout, and river trout. No, there's no such thing
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: as a river.
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  Speaker 3: That's what you guys are going to catch river trout.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: There's sea trout, lake trout, rainbow trout, brown trout, cutthroat trout,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: brook trout. Brook trout aren't technically trout.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: No, because it's not enough water.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: No, they're brook trout are in rivers.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Brook trout are when it's raining really hard and.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: A brook forms now brook trout, and they technically not trout.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of people don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to take that from them.
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  Speaker 6: How far in are we right now? I was hoping
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 6: we were at like an hour thirty and I was
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: gonna be like, let's just let's just keep going. This
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: doesn't suck now, so let's pause, or like we'll we'd
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: have to end. Yes, let's do that, all right. Well,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: I guess we'll wrap it up there. I'm going to
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: be in Austin, Texas in a couple of weeks July
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 6: twelfth and thirteenth at the Vulcan. Tickets at Little Sasquatch
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: website dot com.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: I'll be there in September, I think at the Creek
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 9: in the Cave. Tickets to Frances Elis dot com. That's
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: not true. Punch Up Live. It's in my Instagram bio.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: Check it out.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: Fredysalis dot com not exists anymore. I'm getting rid of that. Really,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: I'm just gonna use the Punch Up Live power move.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 9: I've also got well we have to figure it out
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 9: if we're going to Cleveland, all right, Plenty of dates
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: coming up this fall.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks guys,