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The Late Debate | 18 September · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Late welcomely to the Late Places.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. I'm friend Leach with James Willis
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Speaker 2: and Caroline Marcus filling in for James McPherson and Caleb
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Speaker 2: Bond coming up tonight.
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Speaker 3: Should schools teach.
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Speaker 2: Girls what to expect when dating or should that just
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Speaker 2: be left to their parents? In the papers, the true
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Speaker 2: cost of Labour's Green Dream is exposed, and Russia is
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Speaker 2: so desperate for weapons that they're now getting them from museums.
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Speaker 2: We'll tell you more about that later in the show,
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Speaker 2: but first, Trump's royal sleepover at Windsor has ended and
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Speaker 2: he's now headed to the Checkers to meet with Keir Starmer.
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Speaker 2: They'd you to give a press conference and if anything happens,
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Speaker 2: we'll be sure to cover it here for you.
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Speaker 3: But there's a cloud over this visit.
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Speaker 2: Despite being elected with a huge majority just fourteen months ago,
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Speaker 2: backbenches are currently doing the numbers against Keir Starmer as
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Speaker 2: we speak now. They need twenty percent of sitting members
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Speaker 2: or eighty MPs to support a leadership challenge, and it
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Speaker 2: doesn't seem like Trump is too interested in salvaging Starmer's
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Speaker 2: Prime ministership. The US is continuing to play hardball on
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Speaker 2: steel and beef tariffs, And anyway, why would he do
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Speaker 2: anything to favor Cure when Nigel Farage, his friend of
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Speaker 2: over a decade, could be.
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Speaker 3: Next in line for the prime ministership. The general election
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Speaker 3: was held in the UK tomorrow, you are going to
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Speaker 3: be the prime minister.
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Speaker 1: Does he know that?
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Speaker 4: He knows that, he knows that. In fact, all the
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Speaker 4: American administration are acutely aware of it, and they they
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Speaker 4: think they see some similarities and what they've done and
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Speaker 4: what we've done. And you know what, we speak the
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Speaker 4: same language, we share a culture.
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Speaker 2: Now, James, we've seen a lot of pageantry over the
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Speaker 2: last day or so, no doubt that will continue, and
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Speaker 2: then hopefully we'll go live to a press conference or
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Speaker 2: we'll see some sort of action there later this evening.
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Speaker 2: But despite all of the pump and ceremony, I don't
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Speaker 2: think this is going to shift anything for Starmer. And
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Speaker 2: in any case, maybe the US actually has an incentive
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Speaker 2: to not help Starmer, because I'm sure they would prefer
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Speaker 2: having Nigel Faraj in the well.
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Speaker 5: For It's hard to believe when you consider that we're
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Speaker 5: fourteen months into a new prime ministership and the margin
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Speaker 5: that they have in the House of Commons. But everything
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Speaker 5: you read, and we've been talking about this all week,
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Speaker 5: the drums are beating and I think it's only a
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Speaker 5: matter of time until something changes there, largely due to
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Speaker 5: a fundam fundamental failure to fix some core issues in
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Speaker 5: the UK, and obviously the labor troublemakers on the backbench
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Speaker 5: are causing.
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Speaker 1: A lot of issues.
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Speaker 5: My big takeout though, is I think when you have
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Speaker 5: a look at the way that King Charles and Donald
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Speaker 5: Trump have sort of engaged over the last twenty four hours,
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Speaker 5: we've shown such a tough and strong and powerful, endearing
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Speaker 5: alliance here. And you know, King Charles was talking about
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Speaker 5: the Orcus submarine packed and he mentioned Australia as part
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Speaker 5: of that. Donald Trump was talking about the word special
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Speaker 5: does not begin to do the justice for the relationship
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Speaker 5: between America and the UK. This is a serious partnership.
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Speaker 5: The elephant in the room is where is Australia. I mean,
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Speaker 5: Albo has had a tough couple of weeks in the Pacific.
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Speaker 1: He's zero from.
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Speaker 5: Two, couldn't get anything done in Vanawatu. And then P
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Speaker 5: and G is a wait and see, we're cuddling up
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Speaker 5: to China. We can't get a meeting with the US president.
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Speaker 5: That's going to come up soon. But for the meantime,
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Speaker 5: UK and US stronger than ever. What's happening with us?
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Speaker 6: Well, what can Albanesi really offer Trump? Anyway, He's not
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Speaker 6: going to be able to offer the golden carriages and
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Speaker 6: the pomp and ceremony that a state visit and a
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Speaker 6: visit to Winsor Castle can offer. So I don't think
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Speaker 6: there's much in it for Trump. He has said that
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Speaker 6: he will meet with Albanesi, and he gave a little
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Speaker 6: bit more of a sign that that will happen on
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Speaker 6: the sidelines of the United Nations in that now infamous
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Speaker 6: exchange with the ABC journalist lines, which we'll discuss in
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Speaker 6: a bit. But look, I don't think anything can compare
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Speaker 6: to what we've seen here. It'll be a bit embarrassing,
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Speaker 6: to be honest.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 2: Well, something else that was rather embarrassing that happened in
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Speaker 2: the last day was there was this really awkward moment
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Speaker 2: between the Princess of Wales and Queen Camilla. Catherine was
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Speaker 2: engaged in a conversation with Milania Trump and Camilla was
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Speaker 2: kind of standing there looking really awkward, not really making
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Speaker 2: eye contact, and then she gives Catherine a little shoe
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Speaker 2: and kind of just.
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Speaker 3: Sends her away.
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Speaker 2: Now, Caroline, to you, does that look like just an
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Speaker 2: awkward gesture? I don't know where we're going? Are we
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Speaker 2: going inside? Or is that someone who is kind of like,
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Speaker 2: hang on, why are you upstaging me talking to the
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Speaker 2: first lady when I'm just sort of standing here awkwardly.
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Speaker 6: It's giving real third wheel envy mother in law vibes here.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think on slave Princess Kate stole the
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Speaker 6: show when when we saw those pictures last night of
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Speaker 6: her and just resplendent after battling cancer in this beautiful
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Speaker 6: maroon code and dress, greeting Trump and Milania as they
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Speaker 6: came off, I thought, wow, she is the star of
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Speaker 6: the show. So no doubt Camilla would have been a
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Speaker 6: bit jealous, but it was it was such typical royalty
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Speaker 6: for her to do it in the most sort of
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Speaker 6: subtle way instead of saying, get out of the way.
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Speaker 6: It's just a tip, but it gives it a way
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Speaker 6: that she did actually move on, and she deferred to
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Speaker 6: you know, the higher up and the royal hierarchy and
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Speaker 6: moved aside. But yeah, she was in danger of stealing
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Speaker 6: the show.
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Speaker 1: I think would be a.
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Speaker 7: Little bit lage.
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Speaker 5: I think it's a pretty human moment. I mean, I
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Speaker 5: mean it was just one of these things like, yeah,
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Speaker 5: look it was a little bit. It was a bit
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Speaker 5: of a Every moment of these people's lives is on
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Speaker 5: camera every now and then. They're not going to get
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Speaker 5: something quite right. Someone that hasn't been part of these
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Speaker 5: means and won't be part of anything for the time being.
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Speaker 5: Is the ab scene in particular John Lyons, who, as
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Speaker 5: you know, if you haven't seen this by now, the
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Speaker 5: Australian journalist was involved in a confrontation with Donald Trump
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Speaker 5: at a press conference earlier this week, take a look
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Speaker 5: if you missed it.
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Speaker 8: But he's an appropriate president Trump that a president in
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Speaker 8: offers should.
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Speaker 5: Be engaged in so much business activity, Well, I'm really not.
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Speaker 8: My kids are running the business and you know what
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Speaker 8: the activity.
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Speaker 1: Where are you from, I'm.
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Speaker 6: From the Australian broadcasting.
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Speaker 8: Agent, Paul Corn the Australias. You're hurting Australia. In my opinion,
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Speaker 8: you are hurting Australia very much right now that they
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Speaker 8: want to get along with me, you know, your leader
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Speaker 8: is coming over to see me. I'm going to tell
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Speaker 8: them about you. You said a very bad talent.
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Speaker 5: Now, John Lyons has been held as a bit of
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Speaker 5: a hero by some sections of the media for the
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Speaker 5: fact that he took Donald Trump on and was prepared
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Speaker 5: to ask the big questions. I mean, my big thing
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Speaker 5: on this, and the ABC has lost its spot at
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Speaker 5: Donald Trump's planned press conference in the UK this week, which.
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Speaker 1: Will come up. My big take on this is, look, I.
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Speaker 5: Think there are big parts of the Australia US relationship
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Speaker 5: that are worth the ABC investigating. At the moment, we've
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Speaker 5: got tariffs coming out of our ears. There's all sorts
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Speaker 5: of questions about the Prime Minister and the US and
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Speaker 5: what's happening with that relationship. And four Corners has commissioned
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Speaker 5: a story about Donald Trump's business interest the Australian broadcaster.
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Speaker 5: I'm sure there's more to it, but for now, I
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Speaker 5: just can't see why that would be top of mind.
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Speaker 6: You really can't see why that would be top of
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Speaker 6: mind the ABC. They are so infested with anti Trump
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Speaker 6: far left activists. Of course it's top of mind for them.
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Speaker 6: Just look at how they covered the Russian conspiracy. Their Russia.
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Speaker 6: Gates story from four Corners is still online despite that
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Speaker 6: conspiracy being now completely discredited. Where was their scrutiny of
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Speaker 6: Joe Biden or the Biden administration? There were so many
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Speaker 6: stories that they could have looked into, the Hunter laptop
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Speaker 6: investigation that was brushed off by the media, Biden's cognitive
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Speaker 6: decline that was utterly covered up, or domestic stories. Look
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Speaker 6: into potential corruption in our own governments here and exactly
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Speaker 6: why are we paying a billion dollars a year to
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Speaker 6: this exactly?
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Speaker 2: And why are you looking at the US president anyway?
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Speaker 2: Look at Australian politicians. You're supposed to be the national broadcaster.
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Speaker 2: You're supposed to enhance Australian national identity.
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Speaker 3: Do what's in our national interests.
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Speaker 2: Whether Trump is running businesses on the side, I'm sure
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Speaker 2: it's interesting, it's relevant, But the US media can do that.
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Speaker 2: Why is it our job to be doing that? And
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Speaker 2: it really does speak to where their priorities are. So
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Speaker 2: the Downing Street Press Office said that they had been
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Speaker 2: cut from the joint press conference for logistical reasons. No
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Speaker 2: elaboration onto what those logistical reasons might be, but they
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Speaker 2: will attend the lunch but at the lunch you don't
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Speaker 2: get an opportunity to ask questions, so it all seems
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Speaker 2: a little coincidental.
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Speaker 6: Well, even the ABC said there was no indication it's
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Speaker 6: connected to the question. So I don't think we should
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Speaker 6: make a martyr of John Lyons just yet. This is
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Speaker 6: not a free speech thing. But speaking of free speech
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Speaker 6: and cancelation, Jimmy Kimmel, the late night show comedian in
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Speaker 6: the US. He's had a show for decades now I
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Speaker 6: think he's been canceled. Apparently, at least his show has
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Speaker 6: been paused indefinitely, and that's because of a monologue that
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Speaker 6: he gave in which he tried to suggest that the
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Speaker 6: shooter in the Charlie Kirk political assassination is part of
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Speaker 6: the MAGA movement, and then he went on to lock Trump.
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Speaker 6: Let's take a look at part of his monologue.
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Speaker 9: Now, we hit some new lows over the weekend with
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Speaker 9: the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who
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Speaker 9: murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them,
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Speaker 9: and everything they can to score political points from it.
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Speaker 6: Now, after deliver that monologue, he was then canceled by
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Speaker 6: the ABC, the American Network ABC, and this was praised
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Speaker 6: by Trump as well, who posted to his Truth social
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Speaker 6: page congratulations for finally doing it now. Jimmy Kimmel has
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Speaker 6: had poor ratings for years. I found that part of
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Speaker 6: his monologue particularly odious because it was so disingenuous. That
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Speaker 6: there has been so much evidence that the suspect, we
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Speaker 6: should say suspect he has been charged at this stage
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Speaker 6: obviously that he was motivated by far left ideology from
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Speaker 6: what was engraved on the bullet casings too. Now what
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Speaker 6: we know about his text messages with his transgender lover
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Speaker 6: and his own family, who were Trump supporters and conservative
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Speaker 6: actually turned him in to try and smear the MAGA
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Speaker 6: movement as somehow being responsible for this. I think it's
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Speaker 6: just the lowest of the low.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's blatantly false.
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Speaker 2: So this monologue went up on Monday, the assassination happened
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Speaker 2: on Thursday. By that point there was already enough evidence
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Speaker 2: to say this was motivated by someone with far left ideology.
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel. I think this was the nail in the coffin.
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Speaker 2: He went to air again on the Tuesday. He had
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Speaker 2: time to walk it back, he had time to correct
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Speaker 2: the record and say, you know, I know last night
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Speaker 2: I said they were a maga person.
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Speaker 3: It's actually not true. They're from the left. But he didn't.
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Speaker 3: He just glossed over it. And I think that is
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Speaker 3: the problem.
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Speaker 2: You have people who feel like just because they have
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Speaker 2: a TV show or a platform, they can say whatever
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Speaker 2: they want and do whatever they want. This is not
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Speaker 2: cancel culture. This is consequence culture. If you want to
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Speaker 2: get up on national TV and spread blatant lies that
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Speaker 2: confuse people and that are just false and deeply offensive,
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Speaker 2: well you will face consequences.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's a good thing.
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Speaker 5: And I think the other thing worth noting is everyone
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Speaker 5: talks about free speech and how we should have free speech,
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Speaker 5: but the reality is this is a very well paid,
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Speaker 5: big star with a national platform, will be his ratings
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Speaker 5: have declined in recent years. He is bound by a contract,
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Speaker 5: which means he's big bosses who have their own pressures,
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Speaker 5: their own network agreements, their own broadcast standards and everything else.
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Speaker 5: If they're coping pressure, they reserve the right to do
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Speaker 5: something about that. And in this case, I've got the
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Speaker 5: view that when you talk about the next day, he
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Speaker 5: may have been given the opportunity to go on an
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Speaker 5: error and say, look, I just want to clarify something
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Speaker 5: from last night.
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Speaker 1: I didn't get this quite right.
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Speaker 5: Instead, only a few days after a tragedy that has
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Speaker 5: been felt all around the world, he's making jokes about
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Speaker 5: that in any sense, and so there was an opportunity
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Speaker 5: here to apologize, but instead, I'm sorry, but you're bound
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Speaker 5: by a contract. If your bosses decided you're being stood
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Speaker 5: down until you go through some training or something like that, then.
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Speaker 8: So be it.
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Speaker 6: Having said all of that, I do think there's a
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Speaker 6: difference between some thing someone like Jimmy Kimmel, who is
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Speaker 6: a comedian at the.
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Speaker 3: End of the day and is not a journalist.
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Speaker 6: There's one thing for a CNN host or an AMSNBC
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Speaker 6: host to stand up and report lies, and there have
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Speaker 6: been plenty of occasions or misleading comments, But he is
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Speaker 6: a comedian, and I do think this also does set
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Speaker 6: a dangerous precedent. Again, I fear that this makes him
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Speaker 6: a free speech martyr. And I'll note that it's only
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Speaker 6: recently when their side seems to be losing in the polls,
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Speaker 6: like with Trump, that it's kind of cute the left
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Speaker 6: now cares about free speech. I mean, they've been canceling
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Speaker 6: people on the right for decades. Now they care when
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Speaker 6: it's there are consequences to their own people.
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Speaker 2: So we're now actually checking to a press conference with
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Speaker 2: Keir Starmer and Donald Trump, and that's what you can
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Speaker 2: see on your screens now. They're at the checkers speaking
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Speaker 2: about their meeting that they just had. So we're going
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Speaker 2: to have a little listen here and see what's going on.
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Speaker 7: By standing together in war and in peace, this bond
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Speaker 7: is the very foundation of our security, our freedom, and
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Speaker 7: our prosperity. But what is the relationship all about when
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Speaker 7: it comes down to brass tax It comes down to leaders,
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Speaker 7: of course, leaders who respect each other, leaders who genuinely
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Speaker 7: like each other. And it comes down to our unique
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Speaker 7: relationship on defense, the closest the world has ever seen.
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Speaker 7: It comes down to the connections between our people, ties
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Speaker 7: of family and friendship. The President himself is a shining
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Speaker 7: example of that. But it also comes down to business.
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Speaker 7: To all of you here, and thank you so much
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Speaker 7: for coming here this afternoon, it's fantastic to have.
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Speaker 9: You with us.
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Speaker 7: As the best evidence of that. People to people, business
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Speaker 7: to business relationship, tribes in the special relationship in so
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Speaker 7: many ways, This story is a story about enterprise. The
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Speaker 7: US is our single biggest largest trading partner. Companies like
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Speaker 7: bp GSK, Rolls, Royce and Astra Zeneca employ thousands of
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Speaker 7: people in the United States. American companies like Microsoft, City Group, Boeing, Amazon,
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Speaker 7: and Blackstone do the same. Here together we support over
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Speaker 7: two point five million jobs across both economies. So this
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Speaker 7: relationship is embodied in each and every one of you.
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Speaker 7: Here today we have, if you like, the great and
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Speaker 7: the good of British and American business sitting with us
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Speaker 7: leading lights in tech like Jensen, Ruth Demis and Satyre
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Speaker 7: Finance Jane, Larry and Steve, and of course in farma,
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Speaker 7: in defense, energy and manufacturing. It is really great to
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Speaker 7: see you all, to see you all again, I should say,
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Speaker 7: because of course we were together yesterday and we know
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Speaker 7: each other very very well, which is exactly as it
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Speaker 7: should be. And just look at what we're achieving today together.
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Speaker 7: The deals an investment that you're announcing today break all records.
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Speaker 7: What a day. Two hundred and fifty pounds flowing both
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Speaker 7: ways across the Atlantic. It is the biggest investment package
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Speaker 7: of its kind in British history by a country Mile,
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Speaker 7: So thank you so much for your contribution on your
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Speaker 7: part in that as the embodiment of that special relationship.
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Speaker 7: And let me spell out what that means. It means
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Speaker 7: life changing investments across the United Kingdom. It's expected to
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Speaker 7: create fifteen thousand jobs in Belfast, in Birmingham, Hartlepool, the
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Speaker 7: Humber and well beyond. It means thousands of working people
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Speaker 7: will feel and will be better off. And it shows
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Speaker 7: the potency of this partnership US capital and entrepreneurial spirit
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Speaker 7: combined with British ideas and ingenuity. The UK is one
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Speaker 7: of the world's largest economies. Maybe not quite on the
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Speaker 7: scale of the United States, I concede, but my word,
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Speaker 7: we punch above our weight and we lead the world
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Speaker 7: in expertise on quantum, on AI, life sciences, financial services
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Speaker 7: and more. We have the only trillion dollar tech sector
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Speaker 7: in the West outside of the US again caveat. We
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Speaker 7: have the best investment, the best universities, the most nobel prizes,
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Speaker 7: and we have demis here outside the US. That's what
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Speaker 7: we bring to the table and we are proud of it.
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Speaker 7: That's why we both benefit from this incredible relationship. Look
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Speaker 7: at the economic Prosperity Deal that we struck back in May.
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Speaker 7: It was the first trade deal that the President made,
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Speaker 7: and yes it was the best deal as well. We
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Speaker 7: have the lowest tariffs in the world in vital sectors
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Speaker 7: and that is some achievement. It was a tough negotiation,
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Speaker 7: but we did it for a reason, because it's a
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Speaker 7: win for both sides, and because we knew that by
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Speaker 7: working together we could deliver more for working people. We
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Speaker 7: could help the businesses here today to thrive and help
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Speaker 7: you create good, well paid jobs in communities up and
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Speaker 7: down our country. And ultimately, that is the test of
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Speaker 7: the special relationship, how much it delivers for honest, hard
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Speaker 7: working people to make them safer and better off. We've
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Speaker 7: already taken a big steps forward, and we're going further today,
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Speaker 7: much further. In a moment, the President and I will
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Speaker 7: sign our groundbreaking new technology partnership, the Tech Prosperity Deal.
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Speaker 7: It's a blueprint to win this new era together, shape
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Speaker 7: it according to our shared values, and seize the incredible
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Speaker 7: opportunities that are on offer. I want to thank all
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Speaker 7: of you for supporting this vision. We have huge new
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Speaker 7: investments from Nvidia, n Scale, open Ai, Google, salesforce and
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Speaker 7: many more back in cutting edge British jobs for years
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Speaker 7: to come. And of course tech needs energy, so to
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Speaker 7: fuel this revolution, we have struck a new deal on
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Speaker 7: civil nuclear power. We discussed this mister President, last time
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Speaker 7: we were together, and the opportunities we had generating energy
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Speaker 7: for millions of homes and businesses, driving down bills on
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Speaker 7: both sides of the Atlantic, and driving up energy security.
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Speaker 7: So I want to thank everybody here for supporting this
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Speaker 7: too with brilliant job creating, investments from Momentum and others,
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Speaker 7: including building up to twelve advanced nuclear actors in the Northeast.
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Speaker 7: So this is a great day for the Special relationship,
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Speaker 7: a celebration of what has gone before, of course, but
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Speaker 7: more than that, a moment to deliver investments, jobs and
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Speaker 7: deals which will improve people's lives now and light up
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Speaker 7: the Special Relationship for years to come. So thank you all.
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Speaker 7: And now it is my pleasure to hand the floor
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Speaker 7: to my friend, our friend, President Trump.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, and great job.
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Speaker 10: Well, this is a very distinguished group. I can tell
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Speaker 10: you that's what I do for a living. It was
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Speaker 10: before politics I would have to deal with you, and
21:25
Speaker 10: you are the best you're the best in the world
21:27
Speaker 10: and you're here, and it's an honor to have all
21:30
Speaker 10: of these great leaders, really an honor. But I'm sincerely
21:33
Speaker 10: grateful to Prime Minister Starmer and Lady Starmer for welcome
21:38
Speaker 10: us to this very special home, this beautiful place. And
21:43
Speaker 10: I was here a number of years ago, but somehow
21:46
Speaker 10: today it looks even better, even more beautiful, and even
21:49
Speaker 10: more historic. Milania and I are forever thankful to His
21:53
Speaker 10: Majesty King Charles the Third and her Majesty Queen Camilla.
21:58
Speaker 10: Had a fantastic evening last night. But the exquisite honor
22:03
Speaker 10: of a second official state visit, the first ever, it's
22:07
Speaker 10: the first time it's ever been done, was you know,
22:09
Speaker 10: it really was an honor, such great history, and to
22:12
Speaker 10: think it's a first, it's always nice to have a first.
22:16
Speaker 10: But the ties between our countries are priceless, and it's
22:19
Speaker 10: really an inheritance, beautiful inheritance. Today we're making those ties
22:24
Speaker 10: closer than ever before. We've done some things that financially
22:29
Speaker 10: are great for both countries, and we work together and
22:32
Speaker 10: it keeps us together, and I think it's an unbreakable
22:35
Speaker 10: bond we have, regardless of what we're doing today. I
22:38
Speaker 10: think it's unbreakable. But this is very big and I
22:41
Speaker 10: want to thank all of the incredibly talented business leaders,
22:44
Speaker 10: the best in the world, the biggest in the world
22:47
Speaker 10: here this afternoon for investing in the Anglo American Alliance,
22:50
Speaker 10: and you personify the an important part of the unique
22:54
Speaker 10: national bond and really a world bond. What you've done
22:57
Speaker 10: is incredible. Our two countries do a great deal of
23:00
Speaker 10: business together. Three hundred and forty billion dollars last year
23:04
Speaker 10: was the number. In May, the United Kingdom became the
23:07
Speaker 10: first country to make a trade deal with the United
23:10
Speaker 10: States during my second term, and we sort of wanted
23:13
Speaker 10: to make it the first because the bond is so
23:16
Speaker 10: strong and the relationship so long. That agreement will create
23:20
Speaker 10: billions of dollars and opportunities for American farmers to sell
23:24
Speaker 10: their products into the UK, reduced barriers to trade, and
23:27
Speaker 10: give the US manufacturers better access to the UK's world
23:31
Speaker 10: class aerospace supply chain, which is really, really is world class.
23:36
Speaker 10: A lot of people don't understand it, the importance of
23:39
Speaker 10: that particular asset that you have. It's a beautiful it's
23:43
Speaker 10: a beautiful job you've done. There's no more natural partnership
23:46
Speaker 10: in the world. Together, we're building up the industrial capacity
23:50
Speaker 10: of both of our countries, which is crucial to our defense.
23:54
Speaker 10: And we work so well together in defense.
23:56
Speaker 1: I met so many of.
23:57
Speaker 10: The leaders of your defending and many of them I've
24:02
Speaker 10: known by name, but now I know them pretty well.
24:04
Speaker 10: We had some very good meetings today and yesterday. So
24:09
Speaker 10: we're taking the next logical step with a historic agreement
24:13
Speaker 10: on Science and Technology partnerships. And this will create new government,
24:17
Speaker 10: academic and private sector cooperation in areas such as AI,
24:21
Speaker 10: which is taking.
24:23
Speaker 1: Over the world. I mean, I'm looking at you, guys.
24:26
Speaker 10: You're taking over the world. Jens, and I don't know
24:29
Speaker 10: what you're doing here.
24:31
Speaker 1: I hope you're right. Well I can, says, We both
24:34
Speaker 1: hope you're right. But it's pretty amazing.
24:38
Speaker 10: Quantum computing, fusion six G and civil nuclear energy and
24:45
Speaker 10: align our nations through the approach of centered deregulation and innovation.
24:50
Speaker 10: And we're going to have a lot of deregulation and
24:52
Speaker 10: a tremendous amount of innovation. It's just happening. But this
24:56
Speaker 10: new accord is already helping spur a massive wave of
25:00
Speaker 10: IT sector deals worth over three hundred and fifty billion
25:03
Speaker 10: dollars alone, headlined by a one hundred and thirty six
25:07
Speaker 10: billion from Blackstone. That's very nice, Steve, thank you. That's
25:11
Speaker 10: why you have that location. I think it's considered the
25:15
Speaker 10: best seat all the year. Years is pretty good too,
25:17
Speaker 10: Jad said, that's good.
25:18
Speaker 1: That's great, Steve.
25:20
Speaker 10: You know what you're doing better than anybody. American company
25:24
Speaker 10: x Energy and British company Centric has been announcing and
25:32
Speaker 10: really for a long while they've been talking about this deal,
25:35
Speaker 10: the deployment of modular nuclear reactors across the UK, all
25:39
Speaker 10: across the UK. It's been in the wind for a
25:43
Speaker 10: couple of years and now we're getting it done, generating
25:46
Speaker 10: more than fifty billion dollars in economic value, creating up
25:49
Speaker 10: to two thousand, five hundred jobs, empowering one point five
25:52
Speaker 10: million homes. That's a lot of homes. Seven decades after
25:56
Speaker 10: British genius Alan Turing, I need the field. This agreement
26:01
Speaker 10: will also help America and our British allies dominate the
26:04
Speaker 10: future of artificial intelligence. You need the energy. You have
26:08
Speaker 10: to have the energy. It's one thing I learned very quickly.
26:11
Speaker 10: They need a lot of electricity in the United States.
26:14
Speaker 10: You need double what we have right now just to
26:18
Speaker 10: maintain that fight right now. And I want to say
26:21
Speaker 10: leading China and the world by a lot in AI
26:26
Speaker 10: a lot. And we're creating tremendous amounts of energy and
26:29
Speaker 10: letting you create your own electricity in many many cases.
26:34
Speaker 10: And we're giving you very rapid approvals. We're getting them
26:36
Speaker 10: approvals like they've never seen before. They used to wait
26:39
Speaker 10: fifteen and twenty years to be rejected. Now they wait
26:43
Speaker 10: two weeks or three weeks to be accepted. That's a
26:45
Speaker 10: pretty big that's a pretty big difference. And at the
26:49
Speaker 10: same time, we always have the environment and mind, but
26:52
Speaker 10: we move them along. But we're committed to ensuring that
26:56
Speaker 10: you have secure and reliable sources of American AI quantum technology.
27:01
Speaker 10: We intend to always be the UK strongest, closest and
27:04
Speaker 10: most trusted business partner. Very important to us. The relationship
27:08
Speaker 10: is very important. One year ago, our country was in
27:12
Speaker 10: serious trouble. The King of Saudi Arabia, great gentleman, great gentleman,
27:17
Speaker 10: you all know. He said, sir, your country was dead
27:21
Speaker 10: one year ago, and now you have the hottest country
27:23
Speaker 10: anywhere in the world.
27:23
Speaker 1: And it's true. We'll have more.
27:27
Speaker 10: Than seventeen trillion dollars invested in our country this year,
27:31
Speaker 10: seventeen trillion, which is many, many times what we had
27:36
Speaker 10: last year. And we're only in our just about almost
27:40
Speaker 10: ninth month, getting moving along quickly.
27:43
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
27:44
Speaker 10: I was saying, we're in our third month, our fourth month,
27:47
Speaker 10: our fifth month, but it's going to be over seventeen
27:51
Speaker 10: trillion dollars. No country has ever had anything like that,
27:54
Speaker 10: even close. GDP last quarter was three point three percent.
27:59
Speaker 10: Despite all of the things we're doing. One of the
28:03
Speaker 10: things we're doing, which I'm very proud of, is the border.
28:05
Speaker 10: We now have a totally closed border, totally secure. For
28:08
Speaker 10: three months, zero people came into our country. Bad people,
28:12
Speaker 10: and they come in, but they have to come in legally.
28:14
Speaker 10: We have a great process going and inflation is virtually
28:19
Speaker 10: non existent. As you know, we're taking in trillions of
28:24
Speaker 10: dollars from tariffs, and they've been so incredible for our country,
28:30
Speaker 10: so incredible. We're keeping our companies happy, we're keeping them
28:34
Speaker 10: solid and sane, and they're very very thrilled at what's happened.
28:40
Speaker 10: They can't even actually they can't even believe it. And
28:43
Speaker 10: we've never seen investment like this without the tariffs, we
28:46
Speaker 10: would have just a fraction of that, and we're really
28:49
Speaker 10: the only one that can do tariffs. Nobody else is
28:51
Speaker 10: able to do them with us. It works because people
28:55
Speaker 10: have to be there. But we've slashed thirty year old regulations.
29:00
Speaker 10: As you're know, in my first term, we had a
29:01
Speaker 10: very successful first term. We had the greatest economy in
29:03
Speaker 10: the history of our country, and we had the biggest
29:07
Speaker 10: regulation cut in the history of our country.
29:09
Speaker 1: And now we're doing it again.
29:10
Speaker 10: We're slashing them at a level that is even beyond
29:14
Speaker 10: what we did in the first term. First term, we
29:16
Speaker 10: did more regulation, cutting by four times any other at
29:21
Speaker 10: any other time that any other country has done, or
29:25
Speaker 10: that we've done, and we think we're going to exceed
29:29
Speaker 10: that this time, and we'll have regulation, but it'll be
29:33
Speaker 10: sane regulation. It'll be regulation that allows you to compete
29:36
Speaker 10: and do your thing, or regulations that you're able to
29:39
Speaker 10: get around and do things, and you no longer have
29:43
Speaker 10: that regulation. But we slashed regulations at a level that's
29:46
Speaker 10: never been done before, and we're doing it at the
29:48
Speaker 10: same level right now. I recently signed the largest tax
29:52
Speaker 10: cuts in our country's history, and the bill includes a
29:55
Speaker 10: one hundred percent expensing for investments in equipment and factories.
30:01
Speaker 10: Nobody's ever seen anything like that, and it lasts for
30:03
Speaker 10: a ten year period, so it's going to be there
30:05
Speaker 10: for a while. But the countries and companies are coming
30:09
Speaker 10: into our country. For the expensing aspect.
30:13
Speaker 1: Of the bill.
30:14
Speaker 10: I go with the big beautiful bill, the great, big
30:17
Speaker 10: beautiful bill. We got so much, the largest bill ever
30:20
Speaker 10: passed in the history of our country. In fact, so
30:22
Speaker 10: big that we really don't have to pass too much anymore.
30:25
Speaker 10: We can just do this for four years. Implement, you know,
30:28
Speaker 10: I like to implement, because the bills are wonderful, but
30:31
Speaker 10: you have to implement. But the expensing is going to
30:33
Speaker 10: be the reason. I think that bigger than anything else.
30:36
Speaker 10: When you have one year expensing, you can write everything
30:39
Speaker 10: off of the first year, including structure, so you didn't
30:43
Speaker 10: even have that in the first bill. I think it
30:45
Speaker 10: was the biggest factor in the first bill why it
30:47
Speaker 10: led to such growth. And this is actually a better
30:50
Speaker 10: form of expensing, and it's actually more significant. So today
30:55
Speaker 10: America is strong, our economy is I think potentially the
31:00
Speaker 10: longest it's ever been. We'll see very soon those big
31:03
Speaker 10: places that are being built all over the country. Car
31:05
Speaker 10: companies are moving in, AI is moving in. Everybody's coming in.
31:09
Speaker 10: They all want to be here. The drug companies are
31:11
Speaker 10: coming back.
31:12
Speaker 1: They all want to be there.
31:13
Speaker 10: They sort of have to be there, but they want
31:16
Speaker 10: to be there. But with this agreement, our cherished friendship
31:19
Speaker 10: with the United Kingdom is getting stronger and stronger. And
31:22
Speaker 10: again I want to thank the Prime Minister and you
31:25
Speaker 10: work very hard on this and getting this deal done.
31:27
Speaker 1: This is long in the making.
31:29
Speaker 10: They've been talking about it for a long time and
31:30
Speaker 10: we got it done. And it's a real honor to
31:33
Speaker 10: be with you, and thank you very much. Thank you.
31:56
Speaker 2: So there you have it, Stama and Trump inking the
32:01
Speaker 2: deal on new tech and trade investment.
32:04
Speaker 3: James, what we are key takeaways?
32:05
Speaker 5: Well, I think the first thing is what we were
32:07
Speaker 5: discussing earlier about the importance of Australia getting a meeting
32:09
Speaker 5: because these are the kind of things that can be achieved.
32:11
Speaker 5: This is the third meeting between the pairs since Donald
32:14
Speaker 5: Trump took office for the second time.
32:16
Speaker 1: Five hundred and twelve billion.
32:18
Speaker 5: Dollars both ways aud in terms of investment. And I
32:22
Speaker 5: think the thing that really struck me, and you've got
32:24
Speaker 5: some serious players there in terms of AI, high tech,
32:29
Speaker 5: very big industry. But the thing that we should keep
32:32
Speaker 5: in mind here is in regards to nuclear power. Now
32:34
Speaker 5: they're talking about building twelve nuclear reactors, the SMRs in
32:39
Speaker 5: the UK, using companies like Rolls Royce, streamlining.
32:43
Speaker 1: The approval process.
32:44
Speaker 5: But this is the thing the Liberal Party got wrong
32:46
Speaker 5: at the last election. Nuclear CLI clearly works because the
32:50
Speaker 5: UK is using it's about fifteen percent of their power supply,
32:52
Speaker 5: the US is using it, thirty countries are using it.
32:55
Speaker 5: In Australia, we said the government's going to build it,
32:58
Speaker 5: the government's going to own it, and.
32:59
Speaker 1: People didn't belie that narrative.
33:01
Speaker 5: All over the world Rolls Royce and other companies are
33:03
Speaker 5: building is fine, and so there.
33:05
Speaker 1: You have it.
33:06
Speaker 2: Picking up on your point about nuclear there, James, was
33:09
Speaker 2: also the importance placed on AI now. Trump mentioned in
33:13
Speaker 2: VideA the world's most valuable company which specializes in AI
33:17
Speaker 2: and technology, and that was a key focus of the
33:21
Speaker 2: investment of the trade deal. And AI is the future.
33:24
Speaker 2: AI will transform everything. But the key point Trump made
33:28
Speaker 2: was said he learned very quickly that AI requires a
33:31
Speaker 2: lot of power, and hence why nuclear is so important
33:34
Speaker 2: even in the US, we've seen AI data centers being
33:37
Speaker 2: built next to nuclear power plants. So it really does
33:41
Speaker 2: make you go, we are being left behind on the
33:44
Speaker 2: global stage when a centerpiece of this historic deal is
33:49
Speaker 2: AI and nuclear. Two areas were just totally absent.
33:53
Speaker 6: From Yeah, and the AI industry would not be able
33:58
Speaker 6: to operate without the for the power that nuclear can deliver.
34:03
Speaker 6: And we're just going to be completely left off the
34:05
Speaker 6: page of history with that because our government is obviously
34:09
Speaker 6: not open to it at all, having nuclear. It just
34:12
Speaker 6: talks about the potential financial cost short term without looking
34:17
Speaker 6: at the long term benefits. There's Navidia founder and CEO
34:23
Speaker 6: who he kept mentioning, Jensen Huang. He's the ninth richest
34:26
Speaker 6: person in the world. One hundred and fifty US billion
34:28
Speaker 6: dollars is his net worth, and he was sitting at
34:31
Speaker 6: that long table in the Royal at the Royal State
34:38
Speaker 6: dinner and he was just a few people away from Trump.
34:41
Speaker 6: But Trump kept referencing him during this. He obviously wants
34:44
Speaker 6: to ingratiate himself with these AI and tech founders because
34:50
Speaker 6: he recognizes this is the future. He's smart enough to
34:53
Speaker 6: do that. But I also noticed he was pretty bored
34:56
Speaker 6: looking when we I mean to compare Sir Kia star
35:00
Speaker 6: speaking with Trump, who you want to listen to? Trump
35:03
Speaker 6: was just looking at his nails, and it was I
35:06
Speaker 6: felt a bit that way too, to be.
35:07
Speaker 5: Honest, I was just I don't mean to bash up
35:10
Speaker 5: on Australia too much, but when you hear them talk
35:12
Speaker 5: about things like, you know, the cars are coming back,
35:14
Speaker 5: these industries are coming back.
35:16
Speaker 1: There's jobs involved.
35:17
Speaker 5: In this, there's big companies, and you kind of think
35:20
Speaker 5: sadly about what we could offer or bring to the table.
35:23
Speaker 4: Now.
35:23
Speaker 5: We've got a lot of resources here. The government seems
35:27
Speaker 5: to be reluctant to sort of increase those and do
35:30
Speaker 5: more with those. But in general it was I just
35:33
Speaker 5: think it was a very very impressive deal and I
35:35
Speaker 5: think Keir Starmer is probably going to save the furniture
35:38
Speaker 5: for a little while long there.
35:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very much.
35:40
Speaker 2: So well, speaking of resources we have in Australia, but
35:43
Speaker 2: we're not using. After the break, we will give you
35:45
Speaker 2: tomorrow's front pages today and just wait till you hear
35:50
Speaker 2: the true cost of Labour's Green Dream. Don't go anywhere,
36:22
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. We're going to give you
36:24
Speaker 2: tomorrow's front pages. Today, James, what's happening in the Australian well.
36:28
Speaker 5: All over the front page is the latest from the
36:31
Speaker 5: federal government in regards to their emissions targets. We've been
36:34
Speaker 5: talking about this all week, and today it was announced
36:37
Speaker 5: that Anthony Albanezi has locked Australia into being a global
36:40
Speaker 5: leader on the net zero revolution with an uncosted twenty
36:44
Speaker 5: thirty five emissions target that will require more than ninety
36:47
Speaker 5: percent of electricity to be generated by renewables, four thousand
36:52
Speaker 5: kilometers of new transmission lines, and a range of other
36:55
Speaker 5: things that we'll talk about in a moment. At the
36:57
Speaker 5: same time, there's another story on the front Bay says
37:00
Speaker 5: taxpays have been left guessing about how much more the
37:03
Speaker 5: government will have to spend to drive the investment needed
37:06
Speaker 5: to hit its submissions targets. Treasury forecasting it could boost
37:10
Speaker 5: the Australian economy by as much as two point two
37:13
Speaker 5: seven trillion dollars by twenty fifty, which is good news
37:16
Speaker 5: because per person we're going to be thirty six thousand
37:20
Speaker 5: dollars richer by twenty fifty.
37:22
Speaker 1: So in pay rise coming.
37:24
Speaker 6: From whening for my two hundred and seventy five dollars power. Well,
37:28
Speaker 6: when am I likely to expect this? I don't think so.
37:31
Speaker 6: We might be a world leader in target, but we're
37:35
Speaker 6: going to be a world loser in how much we're
37:38
Speaker 6: paying for electricity anyway. On the front page of the
37:41
Speaker 6: Courier Mail Prayer more about this climate target cost of
37:46
Speaker 6: Albow's Green Dream. It says here the number of homes
37:49
Speaker 6: with rooftop solar would need to double, wind farm capacity,
37:54
Speaker 6: quadruple and ninety percent of coal fide power acts in
37:59
Speaker 6: a decade to achieve these targets that have been set up.
38:02
Speaker 3: I mean, this is just so ridiculous.
38:05
Speaker 2: Does anybody honestly think that our power bills are going
38:09
Speaker 2: to come down now? Apparently in the modeling they're assuming
38:13
Speaker 2: our power bills are going to come down by about
38:15
Speaker 2: thirteen percent every year. But that flies in the face
38:19
Speaker 2: of what we've experienced for the last decade, where renewables
38:23
Speaker 2: have become a bigger portion of our grid. All that's
38:25
Speaker 2: happened is we've had more higher power bills. And also
38:29
Speaker 2: the other thing I don't understand is they keep going
38:31
Speaker 2: on about how Australia could somehow.
38:34
Speaker 3: Be like a renewable energy exporter.
38:37
Speaker 2: We import our solar panels from China because we can't
38:42
Speaker 2: manufacture anything here. We do expect coal, but I don't
38:45
Speaker 2: think that'll be allowed under a net zero future. So
38:47
Speaker 2: I'm confused, like what economic benefit is this actually going
38:52
Speaker 2: to deliver?
38:52
Speaker 5: And this is the greatest furfee whole thing. And by
38:55
Speaker 5: the way, I support net zero overwhelmingly from an idea
38:59
Speaker 5: that we should be doing everything to reduce our emissions.
39:01
Speaker 5: But I think that number and the idea of it
39:04
Speaker 5: has just got out of hand. But we're now talking
39:06
Speaker 5: about importing gas. Right, we have more gas than anywhere.
39:08
Speaker 5: We're talking about gas importation plants, and the numbers that
39:12
Speaker 5: are in this story today are actually incredible, Like we're
39:15
Speaker 5: talking about wind farm capacity quadrupling. Now you think about
39:19
Speaker 5: all the stories we've brought you already in regards to
39:22
Speaker 5: farmers and the fights they're having with these projects. There's
39:25
Speaker 5: already dozens underway across the country, and we're saying that
39:28
Speaker 5: we need four times as many to get to this
39:30
Speaker 5: emissions target.
39:31
Speaker 1: The other thing is that.
39:32
Speaker 5: Apparently half of every all, half of every new car
39:36
Speaker 5: sale between now and twenty thirty five will have to
39:38
Speaker 5: be electric. Fifty percent, so one and two new cars
39:41
Speaker 5: will have to be electric over the next ten years.
39:44
Speaker 5: We just won't get there and we're importing all these
39:46
Speaker 5: from China.
39:47
Speaker 6: And not only that, speaking of the cuts to power belt,
39:51
Speaker 6: it's saying one thousand dollars a year will be slashed.
39:54
Speaker 6: But again we're still waiting for the two hundreds of
39:56
Speaker 6: half five times.
39:57
Speaker 3: We've give me a break.
39:58
Speaker 2: And the way that they're clearly free this out for
40:00
Speaker 2: a political debate, and the way they were framing it
40:03
Speaker 2: in the press conference today Chris Bowen and Anthony Albanezi
40:06
Speaker 2: was it's a choice between their orderly transition versus.
40:10
Speaker 3: A disorderly transition. How about no transition.
40:14
Speaker 2: How about just do what's good for Australia and don't
40:18
Speaker 2: jack up our power bills. But look, not everyone's happy,
40:21
Speaker 2: and not because they don't want to pay more, but
40:23
Speaker 2: because they don't think Labour's going far enough. In the
40:26
Speaker 2: Canberra Times, their headline is emissions goal under Rapid Fire
40:31
Speaker 2: Climate Groups SLAM twenty thirty five target. The federal government's
40:35
Speaker 2: goal to come and emissions by at least sixty two
40:38
Speaker 2: percent of two thousand and five levels by twenty thirty
40:40
Speaker 2: five was swiftly condemned by climate groups and the opposition,
40:44
Speaker 2: with experts arguing it will not be high enough to
40:47
Speaker 2: stave off the impacts of climate change. I mean, I
40:50
Speaker 2: just love how it is only the Camber at times
40:54
Speaker 2: that is saying this does not go far enough. And
40:58
Speaker 2: I wonder do they realize even and if we went
41:00
Speaker 2: negative zero, even if we could reduce all of our
41:04
Speaker 2: emissions to zero overnight, we would make no difference to
41:08
Speaker 2: global climate change.
41:09
Speaker 5: Well, this is funny, and this is where when even
41:11
Speaker 5: labor goes, Okay, we're going to have this target, and
41:12
Speaker 5: people are saying this is actually too far. You've got
41:15
Speaker 5: the Green saying it's not far enough. You've got the
41:17
Speaker 5: Teal saying it's not far enough. And no surprise, the
41:20
Speaker 5: newsletter for the Public Service who drafted the reports and
41:24
Speaker 5: warned about all these things going on, and now saying
41:27
Speaker 5: that we need to be doing more.
41:29
Speaker 1: And you're right.
41:29
Speaker 5: I mean, at the end of the day, the Prime
41:31
Speaker 5: Minism needs to be asked on the spot, what are
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Speaker 5: the consequences to this if we go on this path,
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Speaker 5: what will actually happen to global temperatures on our own?
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Speaker 5: He laughed today when asked about power prices, which is
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Speaker 5: just not funny. And you ask moll businesses about how
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Speaker 5: much they're paying for power at the moment, they're coming
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Speaker 5: to what it's.
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Speaker 6: Going to cost us. And I think that's the biggest
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Speaker 6: red flag that Australians should have. And you know what
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Speaker 6: would be a good way to get to a renewables
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Speaker 6: target and make sure we have secure energy nuclear?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, say exactly.
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Speaker 5: Any interesting story on the front page of the Daily
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Speaker 5: Telegraph tomorrow by Matthew Ben's The electricity giant Osgrid, who
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Speaker 5: run the poles and wires in New South Wales or
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Speaker 5: for most of New South Wales, has slashed its safety
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Speaker 5: cruise after a secret report found it was cheaper to
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Speaker 5: payout workers who were permanently disabled from electric shocks than
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Speaker 5: run expensive safety checks on installations. An internal report by
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Speaker 5: bean Counters found the electricity supply could save more than
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Speaker 5: five hundred thousand dollars a year if it was prepared
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Speaker 5: to pay a permanently injured worker twenty eight thousand dollars compensation.
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Speaker 1: Now, of course, and I'm not.
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Speaker 5: Sure this is link, but there is a big debate
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Speaker 5: in New South Wales at the moment in regards to
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Speaker 5: the future of workers comp for workers. I'm not saying
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Speaker 5: that's related to this, but kind of an interesting thing.
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Speaker 5: And the concern is that Osgrid have had to cut
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Speaker 5: a lot of staff since being privatized. If they're slashing
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Speaker 5: safety crews, what are the wider consequences something like that.
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Speaker 6: And twenty eight thousand dollars companysation for permanent disability doesn't
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Speaker 6: seem like a lot. How many people are getting permanently disabled? Yeah,
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Speaker 6: and it doesn't work for compensation payout no, exactly, So
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Speaker 6: I don't know if that would be contested.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of capitalism taken to its ultimate extreme. Do
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Speaker 2: we pay the safety workers or do we just payout workers?
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Speaker 3: Come?
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Speaker 5: But I thought most companies safety is just a valid
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Speaker 5: and worthwhile cost you gotta pay.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he do.
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Speaker 5: It's ridiculous compromising safety if they are Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely. Townsville Bulletin has a story about suspended Townsville Mayor
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Speaker 6: Troy Thompson. I believe he's a regular on the show.
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Speaker 6: He has now been issued with a fourteen day show
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Speaker 6: calls notice by the local government minister following allegations of misconduct.
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Speaker 6: Now he has been suspended since November last year, but
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Speaker 6: has maintained this outrageous two hundred and twenty five thousand
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Speaker 6: dollars salary, and he's under investigation overclaim that he fabricated
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Speaker 6: his military and educational credentials, which, if true, and these
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Speaker 6: are just allegations, is some of the lowest of the
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Speaker 6: low I mean military fraud he's been accused of here,
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Speaker 6: but a clever headline marching orders from the towns were bought.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's really mad, the faking of credentials. But also
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Speaker 2: why is a mayor getting paid two hundred and twenty
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Speaker 2: five thousand dollars and why are they still getting paid
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Speaker 2: that much when they're on when they're suspended, they're not
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Speaker 2: even working.
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Speaker 3: That just seems ridiculous.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, in mind that last night we said that
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Speaker 5: they spent eight hundred thousand dollars on what the t Show?
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Speaker 1: What was it for the.
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Speaker 3: Wedgewood art Bear lost a lot of money on that.
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Speaker 5: So it's a council got to prioritize their spending a
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Speaker 5: bit more, right, pays me pretty.
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Speaker 3: Annoying they do Townsville. What's going on?
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Speaker 2: Well, after the break, we're going to tell you Russia's
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Speaker 2: new strategy to get weapons. Hint, they're going to museums
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Speaker 2: that after the break, welcome back to the show. Well
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Speaker 2: we knew Russia was desperate in its meat grinder war
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Speaker 2: against Ukraine, but not quite this desperate. Ukrainian sources claim
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Speaker 2: they have found Russia using Nazi era detonators and they
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Speaker 2: found these inside Russian ammunition depots, so you can see
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Speaker 2: the cone shaped devices and they're inscribed with Nazi insignia,
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Speaker 2: symbols and the swastika from the year nineteen thirty four.
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Speaker 2: So Nazi weapons still being used today. And another sergeant
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Speaker 2: in the Ukrainian Army says he's seen people using bolt
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Speaker 2: action rifles that were developed in the late eighteen hundreds.
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Speaker 2: I mean that is a non advanced warfare by any means.
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Speaker 3: I mean incredible, it is.
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Speaker 6: It's terrifying, and it's symbolic in what it represents. I mean,
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Speaker 6: this is like a modern Nazi regime putin regime and
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Speaker 6: what they're doing to the Ukrainian people. But it's incredible
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Speaker 6: that they can raid these museums and that these weapons
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Speaker 6: still work well.
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Speaker 5: And thirteen hundred days into a war, when you remember
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Speaker 5: Russia had kilometers of tanks and heavy artillery that were
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Speaker 5: going in all at once, and every Ukrainian of a
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Speaker 5: certain age was rush to the front line if they
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Speaker 5: could fight, and they're still fighting to these days.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, nearly one hundred years on and not much about
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Speaker 2: war has changed.
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Speaker 6: I'm just sad changing pace completely. Do you like your
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Speaker 6: ice cream with the side of activism? Because Ben and
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Speaker 6: Jerry's have decided there isn't enough social activism in their
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Speaker 6: ice cream brand, and the Ben from Ben well, no, sorry,
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Speaker 6: the Jerry from Jerry's Ben and Jerry's has announced he's
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Speaker 6: resigning from the company he founded after a spat that
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Speaker 6: he had with the multi billion dollar owner of the company, Unilever.
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Speaker 6: He's accused them of silencing the social activism of the company.
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Speaker 6: So now we'll just have to call it Ben's. But
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Speaker 6: in real reality, I stopped getting Ben and Joe's ice
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Speaker 6: cream a while ago. They started all this anti Israel staff,
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Speaker 6: they stopped stocking it in certain parts of Israel. They
47:17
Speaker 6: interrupted Robert F. Kennedy's hearing, and these far left pro Palestine,
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Speaker 6: anti Trump activists, and they want everyone to have to
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Speaker 6: swallow it with their dessert.
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Speaker 5: Well, why, I mean, if I'm going to open the
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Speaker 5: freezer of an eye, why do I want to care
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Speaker 5: about politics of the fact.
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Speaker 2: I think we're so over corporate activism society like it's
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Speaker 2: ice cream.
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Speaker 5: Hey, just before we go, this could be good news
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Speaker 5: for the Dodo bird. And some scientists in Melbourne have
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Speaker 5: played a role in the Radical de extinction project and
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Speaker 5: we're told the dodo bird could be back from the dead.
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Speaker 1: In as little as five years.
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Speaker 9: Wow.
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Speaker 5: And look it's a sort of technicality because they're talking
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Speaker 5: about a nicobar pigeon, which is the closest sort of
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Speaker 5: relative are the large flow less bird.
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Speaker 6: But there you go, don't ruin it. We're gonna have.
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Speaker 3: So exciting and they're so cute.
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Speaker 2: I don't normally like birds, but dodos they're adorable. Well
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Speaker 2: that's all from us tonight, Thank you so much. Up
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