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POP NEWS: SAVANNAH’S FIRST-CLASS DRAMA, Da’VINCHI’S BACKLASH & EBONI CLOCKS TODD! · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. We got so many hot topics to
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  Speaker 1: get into. I mean, from Savannah Jane's first class problems.
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  Speaker 1: We got the actor Da Vinci who caught himself in
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  Speaker 1: a debacle.
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  Speaker 2: We got a friend to the show, Ebony K.
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  Speaker 1: Williams, with her take on what's going on with Todd
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  Speaker 1: Tucker and Candy's Not divorce, but his divorce movie that
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  Speaker 1: actually premiered this weekend in New York City. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: somebody actually attended. And we're going to talk about what
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  Speaker 1: this person said.
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  Speaker 2: But first, please help me welcome a new, okay, friend
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  Speaker 2: to the show. She's a friend in our lives as well.
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  Speaker 1: We have special guest Dominique Morgan joining us along with
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  Speaker 1: our mainstays, y'all faves, Claudia and Dustin.
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  Speaker 3: Hello. Welcome, Dominique.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, hello, hello. Thank you. What's up, Dominique? What's up, Claudia?
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  Speaker 4: What's up, Lois?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, y'all. How's it going?
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  Speaker 5: Welcome, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Dominique Morgan. Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I got a brand new girdle out the pack for this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 6: Bitch, I got to bring out the silks, honey. You know,
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  Speaker 6: Carlos is going dirty. Dustin has the newest, most fresh-fitted caps.
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  Speaker 4: Don't even try it, Dominique.
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  Speaker 5: We've shot, what, once or twice in the last week.
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  Speaker 5: I know you keep a silk piece.
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  Speaker 2: And....
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  Speaker 5: And a cat in your lap, sister.
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  Speaker 2: So, yes.
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  Speaker 3: There's pussy galore over here.
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  Speaker 5: God bless the children. You're not going to get me
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  Speaker 5: caught up already with these comments on this show.
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  Speaker 3: Dominique, you've been with me a couple times, so you
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  Speaker 3: already know how to get down. You know my mouth
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  Speaker 3: is low-ranking.
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  Speaker 6: I ain't never did live to tape with you, sister,
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  Speaker 6: so I'm just going to buckle up.
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  Speaker 4: Claudia, I done heard a double-fisted, but.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We love a double fist.
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  Speaker 1: We have a jam-packed show, so let's get right into it.
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  Speaker 1: Once again, we're discussing Savannah James, First Class Problems, Da
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  Speaker 1: Vinci debacle, the actor who says some things about Americans.
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  Speaker 1: We got our friends of the show, Ebony K. Williams,
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  Speaker 1: discussing Todd Tucker's divorce movie. But first, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: Savannah James. Okay, so Savannah James, as you all know,
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  Speaker 1: she is the beautiful wife NBA legend LeBron James, who is,
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  Speaker 1: according to Forbes, a billionaire.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Savannah and LeBron have been together since they were high
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  Speaker 1: school sweethearts. They had three kids together. And Savannah was
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  Speaker 1: always behind the scenes. You know, this doting wife and
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  Speaker 1: mother who, you know, was supporting her husband on the court. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the court of public opinion says, has Savannah James in
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  Speaker 1: the leagues when it comes to her commentary with her
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  Speaker 1: best friend, April Daniels. They have a podcast together, and
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  Speaker 1: they've been doing a lot of press together. Long story short,
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  Speaker 1: April mentioned how there was one incident as Savannah was
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  Speaker 1: talking about the dynamic of their friendship. and what it's
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  Speaker 1: like to have friends with people who may not be
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  Speaker 1: on the same monetary level as you. And Savannah mentioned how,
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  Speaker 1: you know, listen, it's sometimes challenging with other friends, but
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  Speaker 1: she feels like she has a great group to where
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  Speaker 1: if she wants to plan a trip, it's not an
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  Speaker 1: issue based on where they're going, the cost of the ticket,
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  Speaker 1: and where they're staying. April chimed in and said one
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  Speaker 1: example of how She remembers them going on a trip.
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  Speaker 2: She was in business class.
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  Speaker 1: And how Savannah was in first class. And she mentioned
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  Speaker 1: that they were going on a trip together on the
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  Speaker 1: same flight. And April left business class and snuggled up
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  Speaker 1: to Savannah in first class to watch a movie. Now,
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  Speaker 1: social media went crazy because they felt like Savannah was
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  Speaker 1: You are the wife of a billionaire. Why aren't you
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  Speaker 1: paying for an upgrade or a first-class ticket for your
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  Speaker 1: best friend if you are traveling to the same location?
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  Speaker 1: This has divided social media. I want to start with
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  Speaker 1: you first, Dustin. A lot of people are calling out Savannah.
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  Speaker 2: There's tons of funny memes.
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  Speaker 1: We like a good joke. Our friend on Twitter, it's Kerry,
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  Speaker 1: has been posting tons of videos. about this topic. I
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  Speaker 1: find it to be funny, but I also find it
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  Speaker 1: to be a topic to where it really.
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  Speaker 2: Does showcase friendships.
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  Speaker 1: So, Dustin, do you agree with the majority of the
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  Speaker 1: people online who are saying that Savannah James is dead-ass wrong?
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't. If it's me, I'm a generous friend.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? I love... People gave Drake
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  Speaker 4: a lot of flack last week when he talked about
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  Speaker 4: quote-unquote tricking. But he was saying how he loves seeing
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  Speaker 4: joy on the faces of his loved ones. And I
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  Speaker 4: can relate to that. I also believe that experiences and
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  Speaker 4: memories are what life is all about. So if I
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  Speaker 4: can provide and facilitate the best time that I can
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  Speaker 4: for my friends and loved ones, that's what I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to do. Whether that's paying for dinner, whether that's paying
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  Speaker 4: for them to have a travel experience that is elevated,
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  Speaker 4: if I can afford that, I'm going to do that.
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  Speaker 4: But that's me being generous. I don't think it's an obligation, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's just the kind of nigga I am. In her
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  Speaker 4: friend's case, I think that ego plays a lot of
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  Speaker 4: part here, plays a big part here, rather, in the
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  Speaker 4: response we've gotten from people and money. Motherfuckers are broke.
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  Speaker 4: We all are broke and struggling. Everybody's trying to do
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  Speaker 4: the best they can. And so money is very valuable
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  Speaker 4: to people that have never had it. And you think
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  Speaker 4: that when other people have it, there is this magical
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  Speaker 4: access pass that does kind of exist, but it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: equate to And I think that's the line that's being
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  Speaker 4: crossed in some of the commentary here. The plane going
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  Speaker 4: the same place. You know what I'm saying? They both
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  Speaker 4: getting off at the same stop on the plane. So
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  Speaker 4: who cares where you sit? Now, if I'm in first
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  Speaker 4: class and my friend is with me who I know
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  Speaker 4: cannot afford first class and isn't making a choice not
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  Speaker 4: to spend the money to fly first class or deserves
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  Speaker 4: the experience of that luxury and shit, of course I
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  Speaker 4: would do it. I'm just that type of person. But
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  Speaker 4: everybody's not like that and everybody doesn't have to be.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that we should be grateful when people are,
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  Speaker 4: show some humility and adjust our expectations because Savannah James
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  Speaker 4: is married to a billionaire. She's not the billionaire. So
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  Speaker 4: we don't know what kind of financial arrangement her and
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  Speaker 4: LeBron have. We don't know any of that. So before
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  Speaker 4: we spend other people's money, we need to exercise a
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  Speaker 4: little humility and gratitude. Again, I would have put my
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  Speaker 4: friend in first class But I don't think Savannah James
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  Speaker 4: is wrong for not putting her friend in first class.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Claudia Jordan, what are your thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 3: I agree. You're not entitled to me and my husband's
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  Speaker 3: because I'm married to this guy. Now, when it's an obligation,
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  Speaker 3: it feels like I'm being forced to do it. But
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  Speaker 3: if she wants to, I think it's beautiful for her
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  Speaker 3: to do that. Special occasions, your birthday, I got you.
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  Speaker 3: I would probably do that. But it seems like this
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  Speaker 3: is one of her closest friends, so they probably do
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  Speaker 3: a lot of trips together. So every time we go somewhere,
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  Speaker 3: I got to put you in first class. And the friend,
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  Speaker 3: I can see if I'm in first class and my
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  Speaker 3: friend's in 36B in a middle seat by the toilet.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to see what I can do about that.
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  Speaker 3: But your friend was in business class where it was
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  Speaker 3: totally fine. Um, and, and all these people to comments,
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  Speaker 3: like just wanting to spend Savannah and LeBron's money. Um, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's made to sound a lot worse than
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  Speaker 3: it was. Like at first, my first story, it did
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  Speaker 3: sound like a first class slash coach thing, but first
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  Speaker 3: class slash business. One of my friends, one of my
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  Speaker 3: closest friends, Andy, she always wants to go first class.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be going first class cause I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to pay for it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: And I would not be mad if she was like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in first class. And I'm like, well, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to be back here. And guess what I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: spend my extra $ 1, 000 on when we land? Pina coladas
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  Speaker 3: and gambling.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But if you, you know what I'm saying? If you
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  Speaker 3: want to upgrade me, you don't have to. You're not obligated.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to, great gesture. But when people start
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  Speaker 3: feeling like an obligation to your money, F out of here. No.
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  Speaker 3: But now if, like I said this before, I think
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  Speaker 3: I accidentally informed. Now, if LeBron messes up, then you
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  Speaker 3: take that credit card and you run it up and
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  Speaker 3: you take all your friends. on Delta One to Dubai,
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  Speaker 3: you go to Europe, you go to Fashion Weekend, you
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  Speaker 3: run it up. But in peaceful times, nah, no.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Dominique Morgan, what are your thoughts on this particular topic?
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  Speaker 1: Is Savannah James in the wrong for not upgrading her
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  Speaker 1: best friend from business class to first class?
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  Speaker 5: I think labeling it as in the wrong is... is
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  Speaker 5: what is activating people.
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  Speaker 6: Because I think saying what is right and what is wrong,
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  Speaker 6: I think that's where it gets kind of fucked up.
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  Speaker 6: And however, I wrote about this on my sub-sack. I
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  Speaker 6: think that one, the details in this instance with April
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  Speaker 6: matters to me, which it was like 15 years ago.
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  Speaker 6: because people brought up april's access today it was like
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  Speaker 6: 15 years ago savannah had told invited them on a
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  Speaker 6: trip to japan they weren't going from atlanta to new
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  Speaker 6: york they were going to japan And if you were happy, well,
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  Speaker 6: why didn't you keep your ass back there instead of
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  Speaker 6: coming up into my suite and watch the movie with me, niece,
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  Speaker 6: if that's where you wanted to be? And that gives
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  Speaker 6: me an indication you knew you couldn't get your whole life. Now,
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  Speaker 6: that being said, the entitlement label, I think, is important.
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  Speaker 6: No one is entitled to anything. And I would like
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  Speaker 6: to add a tinge of context from maybe it feels
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  Speaker 6: a little bit activist-y, but one, she's been with him
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  Speaker 6: since they were kids.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 6: We spend our days talking about if a girl gets
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  Speaker 6: a text message from a guy and he asks her
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  Speaker 6: on a date, she better get her comeuppance for that
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  Speaker 6: mere exchange. You've birthed his children. You've given him a
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  Speaker 6: namesake that is now in the NBA as well. If
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  Speaker 6: you don't have 10% of $ 1. 4 billion, which will be okay,
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  Speaker 6: then that doesn't make sense to me. But on a
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  Speaker 6: bigger scale, when we talk about relationship, we've been talking
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  Speaker 6: about today about interracial relationships and what does that look
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  Speaker 6: like with power dynamics. I think inter-financial relationships are important
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  Speaker 6: to think about as well. So if I do choose
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  Speaker 6: to make you my closest friend, like we're not talking
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  Speaker 6: about acquaintances, we're not talking about randoms, we're talking about
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  Speaker 6: people that you've now gone into business with. How do
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  Speaker 6: you navigate the inequities of society when you are a
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  Speaker 6: have and they're essentially a have not? Not that you
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  Speaker 6: have to, But that's something that I think about if
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  Speaker 6: because when Savannah was like, they understand my situation. I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: so you talking like you got eviction notice or something
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  Speaker 6: like that.
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  Speaker 5: Like I did. The context concerned me.
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  Speaker 6: But I think in a bigger space and like Claudia,
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  Speaker 6: you and your friend, I'm like, there's a difference between like, girl,
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  Speaker 6: you want to spend your money on that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to spend my money on this. And compared to.
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  Speaker 5: One point four billion dollars, a lot of money. A
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  Speaker 5: lot of money.
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  Speaker 6: And also business class is not all that. Why are
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  Speaker 6: y'all acting like business class is comparable? There might be
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  Speaker 6: a little extra nuts. You might have a little extra
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  Speaker 6: leg room.
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  Speaker 4: It's comfort plus.
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  Speaker 1: Boots.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know why everybody is making it seem like
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  Speaker 6: it's a sick thing said. And again, those are the
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  Speaker 6: things that our opinions are based on. But what I
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  Speaker 6: have been sitting with is if you choose to stay
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  Speaker 6: in relationship with people who exist in a far different
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  Speaker 6: financial bracket than you, not that you're required, how do
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  Speaker 6: you manifest equity in your relationship? And how do you
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  Speaker 6: experience life when you can go close out the restaurant?
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  Speaker 6: And this person, you may have to wait until their payday.
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  Speaker 6: And that's something I think about as someone who sits
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  Speaker 6: in kind of the middle space of access. I have
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  Speaker 6: friends who have far more than me and far less
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  Speaker 6: than me. But we really got to be thoughtful of
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  Speaker 6: who we build deep bonds with, especially in this time
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  Speaker 6: with money. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and I want to add this.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Dominique, for adding the context of when it happened,
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  Speaker 1: the timeline, and the location, because I do think once
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  Speaker 1: you have all the information, it.
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  Speaker 2: Does help serve this particular argument. I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I looked at the situation like we all
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  Speaker 1: did and said, listen, she wasn't in the Mia Thorne
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  Speaker 1: section of the plane, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Excuse me?
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  Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't aware now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if you watch Potomac, Gisele Bryant alleged that
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  Speaker 1: Mia Thornton was at the back of the plane.
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  Speaker 2: The back.
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  Speaker 3: Was Bobby Valentino with her?
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  Speaker 4: Did she steal the plane seats too? Not too much.
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  Speaker 3: Not too much on Mia.
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  Speaker 4: I like her.
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  Speaker 2: Are they still together?
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  Speaker 5: We are not talking about Mia and Bobby.
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  Speaker 6: He keep getting her facial feminization surgery so she can
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  Speaker 6: look like a tranny, honey.
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  Speaker 5: They better stay together. It's a fool.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you was on Behave, Dominique. You lied. I
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  Speaker 3: love it. Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I can't be up here with Claudia. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Well, come on to the dark side. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The comments said the Rosa Parks section. So we got
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  Speaker 1: the Rosa Parks section and the Mia Thornton section. So
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  Speaker 1: April was not in the Mia Thornton section, allegedly, right?
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  Speaker 1: The back of the plane where Giselle alleged that Mia
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  Speaker 1: was there. Business class is comfortable. However, is it first class? No,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a good class. He was in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the seat in the back of the plane by
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom, child.
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  Speaker 2: I do think this. I do think this. I do
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  Speaker 2: think this.
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  Speaker 1: And I think this is something that we all can
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  Speaker 1: either relate to personally or know someone in our lives
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  Speaker 1: who have this dilemma.
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  Speaker 2: It is a.
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  Speaker 1: Very strange feeling when you have a friend group and
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  Speaker 1: you make a lot of money. And your friends may
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  Speaker 1: not make as much as you, less than half of
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  Speaker 1: you or nothing at all.
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  Speaker 2: It is a very strange dynamic.
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  Speaker 3: Tell us about it, Carlos.
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  Speaker 2: You tell us about it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm wearing sheen. What you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: I'm wearing aloe.
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  Speaker 3: This was $ 698. Okay, your outfit was like $ 300. Your shirt.
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  Speaker 5: Carlos is a Libra. That's why Carlos don't fuck with
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  Speaker 5: nobody like that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, come on.
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  Speaker 6: It took two years of building a relationship with Madison
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  Speaker 6: the Libra as well. It took two years. And I
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  Speaker 6: literally was like, I don't ever want you to buy
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  Speaker 6: anything from... I was like, I need to show you
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  Speaker 6: all I want to do is be around you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 6: And that's what I meant by... Not only the person
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  Speaker 6: in the financial privilege... if you want to be in
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  Speaker 6: relationship with people who have more of a financial privilege
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  Speaker 6: and you really want it to be sincere.
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  Speaker 5: You got to do the work.
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  Speaker 6: So April had to, cause this was, there's a, they
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  Speaker 6: talked about it on their podcast first. The followup recently
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  Speaker 6: is on a mental health podcast. They were talking about
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  Speaker 6: and promoting their podcast. I wish they would have dug
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  Speaker 6: into why not just for Savannah, but April, were you
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  Speaker 6: trying to show her, you know what I'm saying? Like, girl,
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  Speaker 6: I don't, I don't want to extract from you.
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  Speaker 5: Do you see what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. It could have been a gesture of her even
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  Speaker 4: sitting there in the first place. I also think if
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  Speaker 4: we really zoom out, everybody needs to grow the fuck up.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said the first time, the plane is going
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  Speaker 4: to the exact same place. All of this shit about
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  Speaker 4: where you sit on the plane is about your preference, right?
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  Speaker 4: People sit in first class to have more room, be
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  Speaker 4: more comfortable. I be wanting to stretch out. When I
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  Speaker 4: get to the airport, I just smoke. I'm ready to
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  Speaker 4: lay down anyway. You know what I'm saying? So there's
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  Speaker 4: reasons why people sit where they sit. But there is
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  Speaker 4: no shame attached to sitting in the back of an airplane.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: And I think that's what people really need to come
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: up off of. Judging people over where they sit on
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: a fucking airplane is really immature and ridiculous. That's the
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: bigger conversation here. You know what I'm saying?
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: You're going the same damn place.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I'm actually about the destination when we get there. I mean,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: certain things I won't skip on, like the food and
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the experiences and stuff like that. I'm going to probably
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: be asleep on the plane.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Now, I don't want to be in no middle seat
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: between two big people.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: I don't want to be in no middle seat.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: You know the only way to control that?
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: First class.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Well, next time Carlos flies me in for an appearance
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: and I'll make sure.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: It's first class. Oh, here we go.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: The girls don't want to buy their second seat. It'll
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: be a mess.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: But I do think this. I do think I've seen.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of mean things about Savannah being said when
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it comes to this.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And she's such a sweet woman. She doesn't deserve... Listen,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I'm also.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Of the school of the moment you become a public
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: figure and you say things, you have to accept the
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: fact that people are allowed to talk about it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the scrutiny.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: The scrutiny of it. What I will say is this.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: What I do find fascinating, just me, is the choice
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: she made to even have a podcast.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: And to even.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Now have the world know more about her, I do
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: sometimes wonder if she regrets opening up her private life
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: so much because now people are talking about Savannah in
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: a negative light and that was something that no one
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: ever did.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: You know why, Carlos? Yes. You know why, brother? Because
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: they've been one too. Savannah James is a rich, beautiful
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Black woman who stayed out the way and out the drama.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Rumors be damned. You know what I'm saying? Her and
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: LeBron are still together. They have successfully raised their kids
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: or whatever. And people have been waiting for a hole
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: to be poked in that. Savannah kind of opened the
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: door and gave them an entryway with the podcast. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know how she feels about that. Maybe she
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: needed that outlet, right? But I believe these are feelings
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: that people have been harboring for a very long time
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: when it comes to Savannah James, purely of being haters.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Because Savannah is up and she been up. And she's
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: done nothing but improve and ascend since we've been introduced
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: to her. She's only gotten better and better. Unfortunately, we
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: live in a world where people will hate on that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: And I believe that contributes largely to the discourse that
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: we witness in right now about a goddamn plane seat.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you right now, when it comes
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: to women, especially in media or personalities, when you don't
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: speak and have zero opinion or they don't know your opinion,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: all they have is how you look and how you dress.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: The love comes so freely and so generously. The moment
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: you have an opinion and you give them something, they
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: will find a reason to dislike you. I remember how
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: much people used to love Amber Rose. And not that
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: she doesn't say unproblematic. things because she does.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was about to say. I was about to say.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: She dug that grave with fire.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: She gave it to them.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Well, okay. Yeah, now, right? But remember she first had
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: a talk show? It was like on V.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Dr. Phil produced it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: So she wasn't very problematic when she first came out
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: with those times. It was after that when she started
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: saying all the goofy shit and turned MAGA and all
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: the other nonsense, right? And white woman shit. But she
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: may be an extreme example. Let me maybe pick someone else.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, the more you have opinions as
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: a woman, the more you're going to get... This is
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: the beginning. And they better leave Savannah alone because she
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: has every right to speak on her lived experiences just
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: like anybody else without being crucified for... Because she just
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: happens to have a very blessed life. It ain't like
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: she just rolled up on someone. She's been down shooting
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: in the gym for a very long time with him.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: We need to get better at disagreeing or not agreeing
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: on a topic and not making that the whole definition
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: of what a person is. We suck at that, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 6: we throw Black women away very quickly. I also feel
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: like Carlos, when you said this, it kind of hit me.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: I think so many of the girls who are legacy
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: girls in regards to being in the league with husbands,
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: they watch the Juanita Jordan of it all.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: And those kids are almost all out the house. I
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: think it's great.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I think she needs to not pull away, but get
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: a better team that helps prepare her.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Because I think if they would have.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: Went on this podcast and the conversation had evolved from
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: their podcast to this new conversation... People would have been open.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: It's the same thing they said like a year ago.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: So it doesn't feel like they've processed anything. I think
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: she has a beauty brand that she's launching as well.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: I think I saw something. She has some partners. So
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: I would say she's beautiful. Her hair color is the
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: color I sent to my hairstylist last week.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Fab.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: And yeah, I think we should be able to critique.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: black folks and not tear them apart.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Agreed. We do want to get better at that. It's
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: either black, but black folks, we are the people, we
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: are zero or a hundred. We don't really be halfway, right?
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: We like, we fucked with you. Oh, we hate you. Like,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: why can't it be like, I don't hate you, but
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I don't agree with you.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: I didn't like what you did or said. You know
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: what I mean?
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: But to me, it depends on what they do or say.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Cause some motherfuckers like it's one and done. It's just, it's, it's,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: it's case specific for me.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I hate a motherfucker.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: You said what?
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I reserve my right to hate and be a motherfucker.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Well, some people deserve it, but not for a different... Yeah, like,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: you know, like, you know who I can't stand from
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: reality TV. Begins with a O.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: So, let's move on to the next topic. Claudia, please!
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: All right. So, second topic of the day. We have
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: to get into the actor, Da Vinci.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of you guys may know him due to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: his Starring role in 50 Cent executive produced show BMF
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that unfortunately got canceled last season. But he is now
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: currently starring in Chicago Fire that's coming out. And he's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: also starring in a Tyler Perry movie, not movie, series
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: as well. So he was on Cam Newton's.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Podcast.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And he's catching a lot of heat due to a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: few things he had to say when it comes to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the criticism of American work ethic.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: He stated that Americans have been lazy. These are his words.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Americans have been lazy and incompetent for a really long time,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: contrasting modern American culture with his Haitian upbringing.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: He also expressed.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: And weighed in on the contentious ongoing perception surrounding how
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: some Caribbean Americans view black Americans as well. He is
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: receiving a lot of backlash for this in regards to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: his thoughts on it. Dominique, starting with you, what are
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on the things Da Vinci has said in
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: regards to referring to Americans as lazy and incompetent?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: And also I want.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: To add, he did mention that he understood why some
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: producers look for actors overseas because of the work ethic.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Of course, highlighting why he thinks Americans are lazy.
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: As someone who was born and raised in Brooklyn, like, nah,
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: didn't come over here like in his teens. So I,
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: first of all, as a educator and a person who
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: digs into the science of people, I saw the clip
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: and then everyone was like, y'all don't know what y'all
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: are saying because you're only going off of a clip.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, great.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: So I spent the weekend. I not only looked at
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: the full interview, I reviewed seven interviews of Da Vinci
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: from May 16, 2023 until the most recent one. Almost
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: seven hours of interviews and almost 80,000 words in the
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: transcription that I cross-referenced to pull out. I needed to
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: aggregate this because I'm like, are y'all making... I know
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: I'm not a dummy bitch like this. It just can't be.
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: And y'all are saying, talking to me like I'm a
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: dummy bitch. And they were stuck on these things. He
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: said American. He didn't say African-Americans. You are on a
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: show talking to Cam Newton, who exclusively, I think, on
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: Funky Friday has interviewed black folks or folks of color.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: Maybe Gary Owen has walked through there or something like that.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: But on average, this is a space that's curated by
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: a African-American man that has an audience of African-American folks.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: You became known for being on shows that are clearly
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: centered in the African-American experience. You are not someone that
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: people go to to be a patronage to talk about
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: a mainstream conversation of American experience. If they're asking you
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: to come someplace, they're asking you to go to the
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: Essence Festival. They're asking you to go to Culture Con.
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: So let's stop acting like that. So he didn't say African-Americans,
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: but I do not think that he was speaking with
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: a idea.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: Of all Americans, too.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: I found a through line of these conversations he's had
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: where his experience, which we can't negate his experience, I
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: think it's crappy that you had to run a whole
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: household at seven and eight years old. And I think
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: it's absurd for you to think that African-American young people
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: don't go through the same thing, right? This idea that
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: within a marginalized community, you have to make us feel
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: like we're less than for you to be validated when
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: all Blackness is important. And I'm from Omaha, Nebraska. I
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: didn't grow up with the diaspora conversation. Like, I still
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: be like, okay, why are the girls angry with each other?
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, I feel like
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: DaVinci showed up in a very anti-Black way. And I
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: think he did not do service to his Haitian community
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: because he put them in the middle of this conversation
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: where people who are being xenophobic, people who do want
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: to engage in a diaspora war, found a reason to
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: do that. Last but not least, he had an hour
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: and some change talking with Cam Newton, and he talked
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: about what the Haitian community experienced, but he didn't talk
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: about TPS removal. He didn't talk about how there are
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: entire throngs of Haitian people who are no longer safe.
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: The young man who walked into traffic and killed himself,
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: unalived himself a few weeks ago due to being put
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: on an anchor monitor.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: So I.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: I really want people to listen to his interview. I
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: want us to not act obtuse about the specificity of
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: language to think about who we're hearing from. And last
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: but not least, how many times can Da Vinci talk
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: about and be online advocating for the ability to date
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: outside of his race and not be a barrier to
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: him and align himself with whiteness before people respect who
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: he is and what his values are? You just said, Carlos, like, oh,
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: people don't give people opportunities to make mistakes. Across platforms,
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: they're making excuses for Da Vinci everywhere. Oh, he didn't
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: know what he was saying. Oh, we need to give
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: him grace. We need to give him support. You're going
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: into the Dick Wolf universe, and I understand that is
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: a very white-centered space, but you built a platform on
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: Black people, specifically a story about an African-American man who
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: was put into the carceral state and had to survive it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: And I think that's disingenuous as hell.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Claudia Jordan?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Thank you for doing all that research that I did not. Um,
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: but from what you're saying and what we've seen here
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: and what little I've heard, I haven't heard much about him, uh, in,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: in what I look at online, but I'm tired of
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: this kind of narrative from black people and like this,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: this wedge between like black American, African Americans and Caribbean,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: black American blacks. And it, it, I don't know what
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: the goal is with this. I really don't. I don't
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: know what the goal of this is. Um, Dominique, you
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: touched on a lot of things, like a lot of
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: black people, African-Americans have gone through similar experiences. And I
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: don't know about grouping everybody into this big, bad pot
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: of lazy black niggas in America. And then not unlike
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: us in the Caribbean, we work so much harder. You
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: can find bad apples and lazy MFs right in Jamaica,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: right in Haiti, right in the Caribbean, right in Aruba,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: right anywhere, okay? So that's a little bit irritating. Isn't
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: that kind of what white people do to us? Ain't
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: that what they do to us and just want to
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: put us all in one batch, one box, one bad
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: batch of black folks? So I don't know. I just
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: feel like I don't like that a lot of Let
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: me not say that. I don't like that I've seen enough...
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: black men and some women in media where they're getting
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: this attention from negative commentary on us as a whole.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: And it gets attention because when a black man says it, oh, look, look,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: and it resonates. It does numbers. And I'm kind of
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: sick of it. And it just seems... I don't know
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: what the point of it is. I really don't. I don't.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: And thank you for doing the seven hours of research
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: that I don't want to watch, but maybe I should.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Should I?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Was it interesting?
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: I put everything together on my sub stack and I
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: put all the transcripts up there and I coded all
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: of the information because also I think in this media age,
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: people are struggling with understanding context clues.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, we are.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Everyone has a podcast, everybody has a platform, but people
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: are not reading. And so I literally pulled everything and
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: put it online because I'm just like, okay, if y'all
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: want to talk about this, really read what this man
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: is saying.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Be informed.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Be informed.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Well, the average, I mean, especially with like our short
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: attention spans collectively as a society now, remember when we
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: used to be able to watch long form interviews and
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: stuff online and it just went from That to one
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: minute to 15 seconds to a headline. So it's easy
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: to have these be, to be rage baited over these things.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: So thank you for doing the work that, you know,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I did not do.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: As a former journalist, so you say.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Well, do I need to really do a report on
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Da Vinci? I'm more a political girl.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: I did say that I didn't say that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: She knows I'm messing with her. Dustin, what are your
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: thoughts on what he said? Do you think people are
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: reacting to what he said? Or based on even what
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: his best friend said, I want to add this to you, Dustin. Obviously,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Dominique and Claudia chime in, too. So, Chris, put up
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: a comment from a former friend of Da Vinci who
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: also had something to say about his comments.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And I want to be able... to read that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: For you guys as well before Dustin responds because his
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: friend is saying that this is pretty much Da Vinci's
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: character and who he is. So let me get the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: actual quote from his friend.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: But Dustin, while I get that, let me know what
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you think about what.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: He said first. Yeah, so Da Vinci, I think, is
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: 30 years old now. and he's a really, really talented actor, man.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: I saw him on stage in Candy's play, what was
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: it called? Thoughts of a Colored Man. I thought he
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: was great on BMF, which is a story that was
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: important to me as a Michigan native. Carlos, you a Detroiter,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: you know the story of Big Meats. That was important
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: to us, so I was really excited about that show.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: And I think that this is a lesson later in
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: life that Da Vinci needed to learn. I think the
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: discourse surrounding his comments on Cam Newton's show, who, by
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: the way, Cam Newton looks like they shot his clothes
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: on him out of cannon. Every time you see him,
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: they look like they loaded up a cannon with a
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: whole bunch of clothes and pieces and just shot him out.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: And he just stood out and let the clothes fly
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: on him like that.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Like no rhyme or reason?
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: No, I mean literally loaded into a cannon, shot out
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: and placed on his body that way. Now, also, I
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: think that this was a lesson that Da Vinci needed
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: to learn. And this is what it looked like. And
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: at this stage in his life for him to understand
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: that he misunderstood black Americans, being a black American himself,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: black Haitian American, he misunderstood that. I also think that
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: he needed to learn that he was parent, because in
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: the readings, and I want to be clear, the reason
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: that I think he needed to learn these lessons is
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: because they were in the way of a very promising
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: trajectory for him as a thespian, as an actor. So
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: he needed to get this shit out the way, right?
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: He needs to understand that he had black Americans fucked up.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: He needs to understand that he was parroting and repeating
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: MAGA talking points, white Christian nationalist talking points about black Americans.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: And I hope he doesn't want to align himself with
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: those things. I hope he wasn't doing that unknowingly, but
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: this is a way he can learn that lesson. And
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I think he also needs to understand how to better
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: maximize his time in the media, doing interviews and speaking
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: to the public. Talk about important shit. He's very proud
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: of his Haitian heritage, so why not speak on, like
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Dominique said, the plight of Haitian Americans? Why not speak
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: on Donald Trump calling Haiti a shithole country? We can
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: take it all the way back. You know what I mean?
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: There's so many other ways that Da Vinci could maximize
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and best use his time in the media, which I'm
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: sure he'll have more of, because again, He's a gifted actor,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: and I want to see him do it more. We
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: need him more as an actor, right? But while he's
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: out there on the main stage in the media, utilize
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: your time spent better, brother, and maybe this is a
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: way that he can learn that, right? Sometimes you have
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: to learn lessons the hard way. It's a lot of
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: very important conversations going on right now surrounding his comments,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: and people are researching what he said. Dominique, The consummate
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: professional that she is just sat here and told y'all
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: that she watched over seven hours worth of interviews before
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: offering an opinion on what he said. Inform yourself the
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: same way Dominique did, DaVinci. Now's your chance to really
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: turn this around. Make statements that convey a more clear
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: understanding of what you misspoke on. Make statements that convey
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: an acknowledgement of the hurt that that may have caused.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: and keep acting your ass off in projects so that
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: we can celebrate you and uplift you the way that
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: we should and focus on the acting. If we zoom
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: out right now, we got way bigger fish. This conversation
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: is about Black Americans, Haitian Americans, both of whom have
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: way bigger fish to fry than what this brother thinks
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: about anything, to be honest with you, but definitely about
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: whether or not Black Americans are lazy. Much bigger fish
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: to fry. He's got a lot of visibility, and I
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: really hope that he learns from this moving forward and
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: that we get to see him in more projects.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Especially right now with all the stuff that Haiti's in
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the news for right now. He definitely could have used
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: his platform for kind of shining a light on that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Y'all got a whole issue with the Dominican Republic right
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: now shunning you guys and trying to stop your athletes
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: from even performing there and competing. There's a whole bunch
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: of stuff going on.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: And that's generations deep, that beef you're speaking of, Claudia.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: That is ages old. So again, much more things that
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: he could focus on. That's all.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, he's actually a great actor. I
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: was a big fan of BMF. I'm from Detroit.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with that whole family.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: And I thought he did an incredible job as an actor.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: His friend named Brandon, just to add context to it,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: these are alleged things he has said about his friend,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: his former friend Da Vinci. His name is Brandon Brown,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: who claims that Da Vinci allegedly would try to separate
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: his personal brand from his black identity, frequently saying, I'm
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: not black, I'm OJ.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: He didn't say that, guys.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: He said- I have the transcript from the friend too.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: All right. So I'm going to start with you, Dominique.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: He's alleging that Da Vinci said, I'm not black, I'm Haitian.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: He alleged that Da Vinci explicitly stated that he did
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: not want to wear a t-shirt with the word black
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Because he wanted to move away.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: From the black thing. He's alleging that Da Vinci did
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: not want to date black women.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: It was a whole thing. So listen, these are things
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: he's alleging.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: It's one of those things where, listen, when something comes out,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: there is this trend of a pile on that happens
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: because it's an opportunity to put your name out there
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: when people don't know who you are. I'm not saying
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: what Brandon Brown is saying is true or not. The
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: information has not been verified yet.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: But these are accusations he has said.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: So I did, I looked at Brandon's career. He is
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: doing pretty well.
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: The only reason he wasn't on the new evolution of
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: A Different World is because he didn't live in Atlanta.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: So like people are hiring him, working with him. I
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: watched the video and in the video, he does allege
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: that it was, Brandon was starting a clothing line. And
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: so Brandon is a photographer. You know, he does all
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: sorts of visual arts on top of being a actor.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: And so he would do Da Vinci's head shots on
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: and so forth in the pandemic. Brandon started a clothing
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: line of like vegan is black or black like vegan
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: or something like that. Da Vinci allegedly has him come
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: over and take the pictures as he's on the way home.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Da Vinci allegedly calls and says, hey, my team doesn't
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: want me doing the black thing. Now, Brandon did post
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: the picture of Da Vinci in the T-shirt in the video. Also,
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: when you look at their videos on TikTok where Da
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: Vinci used to be on live. debating with Black women
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: about his right to date outside of his race, how
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: Black men are being persecuted for dating white women. And
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: so when you extrapolate the words out of his mouth
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: with the statements from his friend, where you can look
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: at some of these pictures, I think that's where we
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: can't say it's complete evidence, but when I talk about
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: pulling things together, you.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Can present a vision.
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: And to what Dustin said, when you have opportunities to
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: speak to a Cam Newton, to speak, he, you know,
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: my seven interviews was a shade room interview. I, where
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: he sat down with another person who is black, but
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: not African-American. So I want to see how you spoke
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: to people from his community, lip service with Angela Yee.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: How does he talk when he's in a room full
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: of women that are light skin that are his preference
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: closer to whiteness? How does he, he sat down with
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: the sister from sisters. He sat down with Ricky, who the, the,
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: the comedian, the, the church guy, Ricky Smiley. Ricky Smiley,
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: he sat down with the two guys from Power, the
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: young boys who have the podcast from Power.
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael Rainey.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: So I want to see how you spoke to different
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: communities and it stayed the same. So I just feel
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: like we shouldn't throw anybody away. I also want to
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: say this as someone who's new to the diaspora conversation.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: We should hold him accountable to his statements and not
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: make his statements the statements of an entire.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Community of people.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Yes. Yes.
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: Because I am flabbergasted the number of Haitian people who
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: have inboxed me and like thanking me for like comprehending that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: He doesn't speak for everybody. Like I was like, oh,
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: like that's not normal.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: But I think that takes away from us being able
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: to challenge him, which is what Dustin was pointing to
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: of this is his chance.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: To be like.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: I fucked up.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Let me sit with it. And even if.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: You just going to just be better about not saying
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: dumb stuff, maybe you going to want to hunt. You
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: love a Quincy Jones set. You love hunting on a wife.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: Work your set. That lady sacrificed her life for that
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: loving law.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Work it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: Get your life.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Have all your pieces.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: But you, greater levels, greater devils, like the girls want
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: these huge careers and y'all don't want to get a team.
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: And so either learn, either figure out how to speak
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: better or get a team that can prepare you to
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: do so because I don't think you're going to get
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: many chances.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Listen, and this is me speaking as the host of
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Reality with a King podcast.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: That interviews people.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: But I do think what the three of you are
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: saying that I could not agree with more is is
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: when you put yourself out there, just make sure you
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: have the right team around you so that I could
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: have lived my life not knowing this.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: That's how I feel.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? This is not making me
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: want to watch the successful career he has, and I
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: don't understand why this was even a necessary topic. Now, granted, listen,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: we're talking about it only because it's out there, but
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I do think If you're going to put yourself out there,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: make it meaningful first.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: And I just want to dig a little bit deeper
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: into the team conversation because I don't want to absolve him.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: And I'm not suggesting that you, Dominique, or you, Carlos,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: are trying to do this with your commentary. But I
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: don't want to absolve Da Vinci of any accountability in
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: what he spoke about because what he spoke on were feelings,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: his feelings, his opinions, and his perspectives. And so... And also,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: as a 30-year-old man who claims to have such strong
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: feelings that are related to race and related to... It's
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: also a Libra. Yeah, and I don't know nothing about that.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: But being a Libra, too, damn it, because I trust
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: that you're right, Dominique. You know your shit. So being
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: a Libra, too, I just think he should know he
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: should be more media savvy as somebody who he should
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: value his work and his career more than to speak
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: carelessly about in those spaces and in his quest to
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: not speak carelessly, he should really pursue a true understanding,
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: pursue rather a true understanding. Like he's got to get better.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: This ain't really about a team telling somebody don't ask
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: him this and don't ask him that. He needs to
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: understand that he's on a world stage as an actor,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: as a thespian. You want your work to reach all
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: around the world. That means all kinds of people. You
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? I just think he, The problem
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: is he needs to look within in order to move forward.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: That's what I think.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: When I used to host Out Loud with Claudia Jordan,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: it was like they would find me actors. Especially during COVID, right?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: The producers would find my guests, right? I didn't have
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: that much of a hand in it. And sometimes they
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: would book a lot of actors that were promoting TV shows, right?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: My least favorite interviews were male actors, right? And I
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: feel like, especially the ones that were eye candy, I
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: know this is going to sound a little surface, but
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: it's okay. I'll own that. A lot of times, sometimes
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: they would come on here. And they would just talk
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: and talk and talk and thinking the more they talk,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: the deeper they sounded and the way they were taking
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: the focus off of their looks, right? It was about like,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I'm deep. I used to call it fake deep. I'm like,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: can you please stop sending me these fake deep brothers?
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Because I would cringe doing these interviews. Sometimes there is
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: an option, you guys, of just shutting the fuck up.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Like you don't have to say these things. You can
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: sometimes just talk about your project if you're not going
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: to say something of note or that's good or if
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: it's an area that you're weak in. several areas that
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: I'm weak in, guess what I do? Shut up. Don't
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: say anything. Let everybody else talk. Let them say their piece.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: And you avoid a lot of missteps when you do that.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? And maybe you got a
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: homeboy you can run things by. Hey, what do you
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: think if I talk about this? I don't really fuck
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: a black woman, but I'm about to go on this
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: show where the audience is 99.9% black. You think I
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: should say this part? Your boy might say, hey, dog,
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: not too much. Sometimes they're even that deep. Sometimes it's
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: as simple as, Shutting the fuck up.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: And that's that. All right. Hey, all right. I love
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the sound effect now. On to our next topic. Friend
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: to the show, Ebony K.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Williams was on a podcast recently and had some very
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: choice words about Todd Tucker, who had a movie premiere
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: for his series about his divorce with Candy. And these
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: are some things that Ebony K.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Williams says. We're going to play it for you guys
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: so y'all could hear it from her mouth.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: I'm more concerned with Todd and Todd in a very
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: particular and predictable way, leveraging his relationship and proximity to
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: his extremely famous and rich wife, Candy, into now what
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: is a secondary career for him.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: And who do I blame? I blame Kandi.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: See, this is why in my world, highly visible women
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: who have built platforms from scratch is a multi, multi, multi,
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: multi Grammy award winning, multi, multi, multi millionaire. You pick
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: this little Negro and ain't nobody mad at the pig.
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: But then you platformed him. Look at Stephen A looking disgruntled.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Why is his back like that?
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad y'all left that part in. Look at
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: Stephen A looking disgruntled.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Can I just say this?
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Y'all could never make me hate FDK Williams. The one
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: thing I love about her, and there's actually several things.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I love the way she speaks because she has the
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: ability with her voice to make you hold court, pun intended.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: And you listen because she speaks with such fire and
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: passion and intensity.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: And authority.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: And authority that I can literally watch this woman talk
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: all day long.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: And Ebony, I love you. And that's why we did
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: stuff together. And we'll continue to. But Ebony says some
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: very strong things.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Me, Claudia, Dustin, and Mandy have a show on my
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Patreon called Reality of the Dark. And on every other Friday,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Freaky Fridays, shameless plug, but Dominique, on that show, I
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: did mention how Ebony is known, obviously, for saying something
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: that people took as controversial, which is she doesn't want
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: to date the bus driver.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: She has no interest.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: When Candy and Todd was going through their divorce and
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: custodial battle, she said on my platform, this is the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: reason why I said I'm not dating the bus driver.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: They were so mad.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: They were angry.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: She said, based on what Todd was doing with wanting
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: full custody, she said, in no way, shape, or form
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: am I going to date a man who makes less
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: than me when society has positioned men to out-earn their
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: female counterparties. She said, I'm already losing starting that. And
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: then to add insult to injury, you want to take
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: my baby that I gave birth to and want full
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: custody of this?
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: No.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: And she said that's the reason why as a woman,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: she decided to have her beautiful baby Liberty the way
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: she wanted to because no man was going to enter
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: her life even threatening to take custody away from her.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Claudia, I want to start with you on this. What
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts, although I may know, What are your
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: thoughts on.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: What Ebony said in terms of, you know, listen, she said, listen,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Love Candy, I gotta blame you. You platformed this individual
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: and you pretty much can't be mad at what he's doing.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I agree that she can't be mad at what he's
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: doing because he, listen, he has a right to talk
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: about his side of the story. You know, I always
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: rock for the ladies and I love me some Ebony.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: She did platform him and, you know, whether you agree
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: with them getting together or not, you know, that's on you,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: but He has a right to speak about his side
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: of the story.
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: He does.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: He does.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not mad at him about that. I don't think
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: he needs to just shut up and dribble.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. And Ebony is free to have
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: that opinion of, hey, this is why I don't date
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: this kind of guy because she's operating from a place
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: where she's protecting herself. But I don't think, listen, I
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: may not agree with everything he's doing or saying, but
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: I don't think he needs to just shut up and
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: not say anything. I don't like some, now we had
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: some nuanced conversations about the threesome stuff and like his
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: timing and how he chose to kind of weaponize it
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: after the fact. It's one thing when you talk about
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: it when we're in a good place, but it's another
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: thing when you kind of drag it when we're not
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: in a good place. I agree with that. I think
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: that wasn't cool. But if he's just talking about his experience,
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: one thing, but don't start dragging the woman that gave
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: you this platform. That's when I would have a major
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: problem with it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Dominique Morgan. Yeah, no.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: I agree that he has the right to share his
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: experience and his story. Earlier, I was just thinking about
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: the responsibility of covering your partner and what does that
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: look like in relationship. And oftentimes, people will discuss, like
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: when we think about trad wives and stuff like that,
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: where men will display.
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: Like if they don't love you, they don't know how
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: to like you still.
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: And so you automatically become an enemy or someone who's
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: on the opposite side. And I think that And I
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: have not seen the movie. I think it just premiered
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: this weekend, right? I saw some of the clips. But
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: I remember what sat with me. And, of course, you're
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: producing things. You want people to kind of be zoomed
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: in and want to know more. Is that when Candy
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: did talk about their sex life, we never got clear
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: details about what Todd did and who Todd did it with.
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: Regardless of what the city of Atlanta says. It never
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: came out of Candy's mouth. it was always more in
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: a affirming way of talking about how they kept their
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: relationship healthy, which everybody was in agreeance to it. It
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: felt like this is being told in a way to
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: sully Candy. And what I mean by that is I
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: don't think Black women get to be sexually liberatory. And
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: this is me talking as a former sex educator, you know,
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: in the clinic and working in the classroom. And so
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: I was surprised that when Candy shared it years ago
• 51:32
  Speaker 6: that people gave her room to have the candy-coated nights.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: That surprised me because I don't know about y'all, I
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: don't know the last time there's been a Black woman
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: with the level of celebrity that Candy has who walked
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: into this sex conversation the way she did and it did.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: Not deeply impact her.
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: And I think that's one of the reasons she is
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: really angry about some of the things that happened on
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: that show. But I think Todd can really show discretion.
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: And I don't think that equates to silence. I think
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: that equates to you'll win more. And if this is
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: his desire, you'll win more people who fall in love
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: with you as Todd Tucker if you demonstrate an ability
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: to handle this well. Because this is how you break
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: off from people saying you only have this because of candy.
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: This is your moment for someone to be like, oh,
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: you know what? Todd really could have went in.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: He didn't.
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: Let me look at the thing that he has going on.
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: But from what Ebony said, 100%, like, Candy knew who
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: she married. And I think going back to what I
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: said about like in relationships that are that your systems
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: are are not the same. So you knew you had money.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: He might have been successful, but you weren't equitably connected
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: when it came to financial capital. You made that relationship
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: and this is what comes with it. And I just
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: hope that I hope that Todd just they have young children.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: And I'm not concerned about the children hearing things. I'm
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: concerned about the culture of the relationships. Because I think
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: Kenny had another interview I saw today where she was talking.
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: It might have been Ricky Smiley.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: And she was, because Ricky was like, oh, y'all were
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: on vacation. She was like, oh, that was a while. And,
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: you know, Candy's a tourist. And once it's a chop,
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: it's a chop. I'm thinking about Kenny's daughter talking about
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: the strain with her relationship with Todd's daughter. But that's important.
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: So it's not fair. But Todd is still the man
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: of that family. And so how does he take that
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: role while having the right to tell his story, while
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: having the right to be a entrepreneur? He can show
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: us who he is and he can gain his own
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: fan base through these actions.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: If he handles this right, he can have a way
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: bigger fan base than he ever had. Like you're saying,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: if he handles it right, we could be like, you
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: know what? I got nothing. No notes.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: No notes.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Because you still... You can tell your side of the
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: story without dragging or besmirching and selling up and dirtying
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: candy because we all know you got to pick a
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: platform because that's not even debatable.
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: And stop eating coochie to keep a man. It don't
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: work like that, Nia. Oh, yeah.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I'm too lazy.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: Same.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Well, we can talk about that, too.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: But, Dustin, before we do, let me hear your thoughts
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: on what Ebony K.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Williams said. It was the first time that I heard.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: anybody say, okay, Candy, you have to own up to
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the fact that you play a role in this too,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: based on you marrying him and platforming him. Do you
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: agree with Ebony when it comes to, should Candy take
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: ownership based on what's happening right now?
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Well, I agree with Ebony because what she said was
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: not an opinion. It was an analysis. She mapped out
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: what took place, right? She said this happened, then this happened,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: and here's why that happened. So I don't really feel
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: like there was anything for me to disagree with. It
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: was literally what took place. And also, y'all know me.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Y'all know Ebony. It's like family to me. She said
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: what the fuck she said. You know what I'm saying?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: That's it. And that's just what it's going to be.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: I love Ebony. It's personal, and I'm biased. And I'm
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: going to be honest about it, okay? It just is
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: what it is. Now, I also agree wholeheartedly with Dominique's
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: commentary because Todd has a great opportunity here. You have
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: to look out, look at things. You have to take
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: your emotions out of things sometimes, even though I just
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: put mine all the way into the Ebony conversation, knowingly. Okay,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck. But sometimes you have to
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: take your emotions out of a situation, especially as a father,
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: especially in this patriarchal society that we live in. You know,
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: men are always having these conversations about banning the house,
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: pay the bills, wanting my way, whatever. Well, this is
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: how you show your fortitude as a leader and as
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: a head of a household, by making decisions that reflect discretion,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: just like Dominique just said, and saying, hey, I could
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: do it this way right now and be rightful and
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: entitled to do it that way. But maybe if I
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: do it differently, it can yield this outcome. Maybe if
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: I do it differently, it can create an environment or
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: a mood or a temperature that when we share space
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: that doesn't lead to arguments and our kids looking at
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: us like, why do my parents hate each other? You know,
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: if I just do things this way, that's true leadership.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: That's true headship. And that's the shit that all these
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: motherfuckers say they want. So Todd has a great opportunity
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: to do that. And I think it is also very
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: important that we note that when Candy shared details, just
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: like Dominique broke down, when Candy shared details about their
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: sex life, it was, you know, and with a view
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: to protect them both. And Todd is now offering glimpses
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: into their private matters with a view that can be questioned, right?
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: And I think that's the difference here. So I agree
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: with Ebony. I don't give a fuck. That's my girl.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: So just being honest, you know what I'm saying?
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: And also- I'm sure when Candy was speaking on their
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: relationship and handling it with care, like giving you a glimpse,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: but not like putting everything in blasts, all the dirty details,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: that was when they were on the same roof and
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: they were laying up together and probably had talks about it.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Y'all ain't together now, so who knows what kind of
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: level of communication you're allowing. Are you running this by, Candy,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: before you do this? I don't think you are. It's different.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: It's different.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: But I also think this. First of all, I agree.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I do think.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: It's a slippery slope because to me, They were both
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: on the same reality show together. Yes, she was the
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: housewife and he was the husband. He was not contracted
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: by Bravo. He was not getting paid by Bravo.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: They both said... And they had their own show?
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: And they had their own show, yes, exactly. They had
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: their wedding special. They had Candy and the Gang, Candy
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Ski Trip. Candy is the queen of spinoffs at Bravo, right?
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Happy Black History Month, although it is October.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: because Da Vinci has ruined it for the Libras. So,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: happy Blacktober, child.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, so with that being said.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Damn, Da Vinci, we were celebrating doing good. We still
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: got Usher. Now, with that being said, though, one thing
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: that I really am.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Till this day, I really am having a hard time reconciling,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: like what Claudia said that I agree with, And you
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: guys said the same thing. He does have every right
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: to tell his story. He's a public figure. Yes, because
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: he married Candy. These are facts.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Todd Tucker is famous because he married Candy. There's no
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: dispute there.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Period. That's it. That's it.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: This isn't a Beyonce, Jay-Z, Will Smith, Jada. This is
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: strictly the facts, right? Because they both had these spinoffs together...
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: And they both talked about their lives to where we
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: saw Mama Joyce say the craziest things to Todd. We
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: saw Todd's mother rest in heaven. and Candy's mom almost
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: getting to blows. We've seen them both share very intimate
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: details of their marriage. The only thing that I'm having
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: a hard time grasping is I don't think he's dragging Candy, though.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: That's the one thing. I don't think he's dragging.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: her to the point where it's making her.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Look like something she's not.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing I'm not computing with people.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's dragging her, but I do think
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: that I wish he would just wait a little bit
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: because Candy, as a Taurus, she don't really be putting
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: her feelings out there like that, but she has given
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: us little glimpse that she's hurt.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: By- We did a one-woman show, though.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: That you had to lock your phone up at.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: Did anybody go to the show?
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: He's talking to the media.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: He starts immediately. She seems like she.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: When you're the one that got their heart broken in
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: a breakup, allegedly what they was like cheating. Isn't that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: what the world on the street is? There was some
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: cheating by Todd. And then you're out there talking. It's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: almost like, to me, it's different. If I cheated on
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: you and then I also go out there and add
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: salt to the wounds. And even if I'm not dragging you,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: but I'm still giving enough where I'm at. It's like
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: I could see how Kanye would feel a way, and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: it comes across worse than maybe he's intending it to be, right?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: He's probably thinking, oh, I'm just telling my story. But
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: maybe just give the girl six months. Let y'all divorce
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: kind of marinate for a minute. It's a lot to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: have to deal with. I lost my husband, my relationship,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: and I'm heartbroken still, and it hurts. And this is
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: from someone that doesn't like to show their hand. And
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: then on top of that, I got to hear little
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: things and bits and pieces about my relationship. Almost downplaying
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: a little bit, well, we add threesomes all the time. Like, okay, maybe,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: but can I heal a little bit? Do you really
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: still care? I think, I don't know. I think that's
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: maybe why some of us are feeling a little bit
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: more protective about her in this. And I don't think
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: he's dragging. He's probably just like, hey, this is my story.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: But I guess I'm just thinking from the standpoint of
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Candy and what she's probably, what her process is right now.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: I think we've all said that people don't handle Black
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: women with care.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Because it's so used to being resilient.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: So it's like, oh, you're going to be all right.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: Kandi also, we know she's incredible.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: But I also want to name that out of escape,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: people talk the most crap about her voice. She is
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: the most deeper melanated woman within the group. Like, there's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: just things that we see. And again, none of this
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: negates Todd's right. I think there's the right, and then
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: it's like, what can you do?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: And I think that that's maybe where he should sit
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: his spirit at.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: I think Kendi is a consummate businesswoman. And I just wonder,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: like Claudia said, if you took a little time, you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: took a beat and you came back and said, hey,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: you know, Kendi, I want to do this. I'm going
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: to make this money. Maybe I get a little less
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: spousal support. It ain't like you ain't got a coin.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 6: It ain't like you got no money. And you still
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: got these, you know what I'm saying? Like you are good.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: But just take some time, Todd. Heal for yourself. You
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: know what I'm saying? Like that's what I would want
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: to see.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: The only equalizer I would have is if Kandi talked
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: about their sex life in her one-woman show, I'd be like, oh,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: you kind of set that up. But I don't know
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: anyone who's been to the show because they always sell out.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: You know why, Dominique? Because her show was one of
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: those shows where you have to lock your phone up
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: and nobody's really leaked any footage from the show. She
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: hasn't talked publicly about what she shared in the show.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: And so that's why their disclosure essentially feels.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Different to me.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: That's why it feels different.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: I now have the aha moment that was missing. I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: had no idea that when she did her one woman show,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: she had the phones locked. And that's the reason why
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: we never saw leaked footage because she protected from the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: world viewing it. And now what he's doing, she feels
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: like you are not protecting me from the world viewing me.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, I got that.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even in breakups, she still found a way. She
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: found a way to make her money and still protect
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: him in some regards, and he's not. Okay. You know?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: I get it now. It's not very Libra-ish. It's like this.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Ah! The ballast can.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: I now get it.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: I now get it. I now get it.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I was always confused with, well, she did the one-woman show.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Why can't he do the one-man show? But I now
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: get it. She never put teasers out from her one-woman show.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: And the reason why, like Dominique said, who went to it?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know who went to it because
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: she locked the phone.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, now I get it.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I now have a greater understanding, all right? Raindrops, let
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: me know if you also have the aha moment. Because
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: the interesting thing about this too, guys, is it was divided.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of women who are on Todd's side.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, and no shade. I was surprised. Only because,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: you know, the bubble that I'm in when it comes
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: to reality television is nobody cares what men think.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: So I was surprised.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as many pick me women are out there that
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: always want to run to the defense of a brother. Please,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised at all. Especially Candy is someone to
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: be jealous about. She's rich, got a coin, doing a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: lot better than 90%, 99% of us. Yeah, I'm not surprised.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not surprised.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: They can lead in a purity culture.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: They feel like these are consequences for her to being
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: sexually promiscuous in her marriage.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Not just hippie culture.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: It's if you didn't, It's I'm on your side because
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: you shouldn't have did that anyway. That is why purity
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: culture is harmful.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: And do you think too, I'm going to move on
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: with this.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Do you also think it has to do with the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: fact that, listen, I always say this and people will
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: be like, Carlos, what are you talking about?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I do believe privately because social media ain't the real world.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I believe that there's tons of black people who are
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: really conservative and.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Based on how being raised in the South.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: So another aha moment that I'm getting, this is why
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I love doing this show, is there's a lot of
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: black women who are conservative.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Where you don't talk about sex.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: The idea of bringing another woman to the bedroom is
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: not something that black women were raised to even think
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: was a possibility. Whether it's your preference or not, you know, one,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: I remember when Sissy Houston, the mother of, Whitney Houston
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: when she spoke to Oprah Winfrey and Oprah Winfrey said
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: there were rumors that her daughter Whitney Houston was gay
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: would you have been okay with Whitney Houston being gay
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: and she did this.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Oprah gagged and said you would have had a problem
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: with your daughter being gay she said yes and Oprah
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: said you would not have accepted that she goes.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: No But your other son can have a drug problem
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: and all these other things that are false equivalencies. But still,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: she wasn't publicly saying that. I just think that's why
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: I always thought it was poetic that her name was Sissy.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Look at God.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: God will do it. Won't he do it?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I am done.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Do y'all think because Candy is a black woman that
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: is sexually liberated, that some, not all, but that the
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  Speaker 1: reason why some of Black women on Todd's side is
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  Speaker 1: because they are conservative in terms.
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  Speaker 2: Of thinking that's what you get for allowing your man
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  Speaker 2: to even eat the cooch.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Why are you divorcing him for cheating? You was already
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  Speaker 6: having three ways. At least you have a husband. You
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  Speaker 6: have these young kids. It's a scarcity model.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: You're already, in their mind, opening up your relationship.
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  Speaker 6: They don't know the ethics of their non-monogamy or whatever
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  Speaker 6: is happening because Kenny.
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  Speaker 5: Didn't give us those details.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 6: Then you left him because he cheated you. Already we're
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  Speaker 6: having sex with other women. That's not enough to leave.
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  Speaker 6: And so you had something that most of us don't get.
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  Speaker 6: You're throwing it away. And now he has the right
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  Speaker 6: to tell his story because if I hear him tell
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  Speaker 6: his story about how you weren't worthy, it'll make me
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  Speaker 6: feel like I'm worthy when that's not how the hierarchy
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  Speaker 6: really works.
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