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1019 - Family Lockup (s1e2) "The Lost Brother" with Keisha · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pizzachade. It's many paying here, it's Friday,
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: and I have got Keisha here because we're going to
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: talk about family lock up. Almost said the wrong thing,
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Kisha almost said love after lock up, but it's family
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: lock kay.
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  Speaker 2: I know. It's a Friday morning, and you guys, here's
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: the thing.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: We thought we were gonna get the screeners and we
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: were gonna have this episode out when you woke up
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: Friday morning and be in your feed, but they decided
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: not to go to screeners this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe forever. We're not sure.
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  Speaker 3: I'm planning it's gonna be a foreverything too, So I'm
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: thinking this may be just the norm what we're doing
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: right now. Because no, that looked good, that looked promising.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't. We don't.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: We don't prefer to record in the morning, especially Keisha
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: because she's an hour behind me and neither one of
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: us are early birds.
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  Speaker 2: So no, we're not.
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  Speaker 4: No, we're not those that those type of girls at all.
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  Speaker 2: But here we are. We're going to talk about this
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  Speaker 2: show more addiction, more sadness.
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: There gotta be some episodes in there that are not addiction,
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: Like can we have like a shoplifting ring or something
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I'd like just some straight up grand theft
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: auto I'd like I'd like some white collar crime. I'd
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: like somebody origin checks for no reason. Yeah, that'd be great.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be everybody's on drugs, But unfortunately the.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: World we live in a lot of people are on
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  Speaker 1: drugs and do go to prison because of it.
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  Speaker 4: I guess we'll see. I have hope we're gonna get
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  Speaker 4: some in.
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  Speaker 2: There that are not little not addiction because this is.
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  Speaker 4: Rough, because addiction is it kind of hard?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, makes it hard for us. I have to recap it.
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  Speaker 1: But there are lessons to be learned here. So let's
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: see if we can figure them out. Okay, I immediately
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  Speaker 1: need to help when we go into this, this couple
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: as we call them, So, Okay, Robert is the prisoner. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Brandon is the half brother of Robert. Yes, they seem
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  Speaker 1: to have the same dad. Yes, okay, But Robert, the
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  Speaker 1: older brother, grew up wealthy and Brandon, the second brother,
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  Speaker 1: grew up in the hood.
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  Speaker 2: Does that mean I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Think he was I don't think he was wealthy. I
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  Speaker 3: think he was like a suburb kid.
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  Speaker 1: So does that mean Dad was married to Robert's mom,
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  Speaker 1: who we see Dad was married to her. They had
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  Speaker 1: a nice life, everything was fine, and then Dad married
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: somebody and had Brandon and moved to the hood.
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  Speaker 3: I I personally think that Dad probably didn't marry any
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  Speaker 3: of the women that he has children with because he
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  Speaker 3: was an addict himself.
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  Speaker 4: So I think he was just around slinging dick and
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  Speaker 4: getting bit just pregnant and in.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you know what, gotta go because he's easier to
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  Speaker 3: find a hood.
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  Speaker 1: But he would say, he said, when I would go
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  Speaker 1: to my dad's house, so it was the dad's house,
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  Speaker 1: and it maybe Dad was with Brandon's mom at the time,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe not married and maybe just they.
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  Speaker 4: Had a house mama. Yeah kind of situation. Yeah. Dad
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  Speaker 4: doesn't get mentioned a lot other than just that introduction
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  Speaker 4: right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I literally my first note is immediately
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  Speaker 1: I need help figure this family out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because sorry, there's a weird.
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  Speaker 3: Uh because I remember Brandon actually saying that Robert's mom
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: would come and pick him up so he could go
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: over to her house to spend time with Robert.
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  Speaker 4: So I guess the baby mama's got along quite well.
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  Speaker 2: So confusing.
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  Speaker 1: Now if we beat Brandon, Okay, he's the half brother
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  Speaker 1: of Robert. Robert is serving five months for a parole violation,
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  Speaker 1: which we immediately know that probably means drugs. He's gonna
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: be released in four days. Why aren't we doing this
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  Speaker 1: four days before?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I couldnot get past you know,
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: he was making that taffy and I'm like, why can't
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: you not trade some of that taffy for our haircut?
• 4:35
  Speaker 4: Because that hair bothered me the entire episode.
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  Speaker 2: Both hair.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Brandon's hair was so egregious. What was happening? Did
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  Speaker 1: he He's losing his hair and he's brushed it all
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  Speaker 1: forward into a bowl.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: He was giving me eminem Circle circa two thousand and
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: two or something like that. Maybe he watched the movie
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: eight Miles Miles, like eight times too many or something.
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  Speaker 4: It was a lie, it was it was.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of hair, A yeah, because Robert also
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  Speaker 1: had terrible hair. So okay, so they have the same dag.
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  Speaker 1: They're half brothers. Growing up, they didn't hang out too
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  Speaker 1: much because Robert was older, but Robert was fun when
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  Speaker 1: he would come over to Brandon's house to.
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  Speaker 2: Their dad's house.
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  Speaker 1: They would watch wrestling, and he remembers as a kid
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  Speaker 1: having to visit his brother Robert in juvenile detention, and
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  Speaker 1: that's when he realized like his brother was on the
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  Speaker 1: wrong path, right, And it says Robert grew up in
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  Speaker 1: a very nice neighborhood while he, Brandon grew up in
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  Speaker 1: the hoods surrounded by addiction.
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  Speaker 4: Isin't that funny how it goes? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: You you would think it would be reversed, but not.
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  Speaker 2: Addiction doesn't discriminate, as we know, No, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, right out of high school, he joined
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  Speaker 1: the army, which made him who he is today. But
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  Speaker 1: Robert has been in and out of jail, battling addiction,
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  Speaker 1: and he's done backstabbing things to the entire family.
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  Speaker 4: That happens a lot. It's a lot too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So in twenty sixteen, Brandon was living with their
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  Speaker 2: older brother. No he didn't say, he says other brother,
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  Speaker 2: their other brother, Nathan. He had just bought his first
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  Speaker 2: house and Robert moved in with the brothers. And it
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  Speaker 2: was fine until out of nowhere he got back into
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  Speaker 2: his addiction. And he said, and when he's.
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  Speaker 1: Using, he's stealing and he's lying, and he says, after
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  Speaker 1: he stole from me, I cut him off.
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  Speaker 2: It's been eight years.
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  Speaker 1: I want to have a relationship with my brother, but
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  Speaker 1: he has to be able to change. So he hasn't
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  Speaker 1: really talked to him in eight years. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I'm coming in crazy, coming in.
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  Speaker 2: Four days before. You don't have a relationship with him anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, no, you don't even know this person anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I just the four days before eight years. Yeah, that's
• 7:00
  Speaker 4: threw me off. Yeah, that that that threw me off
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  Speaker 4: big time.
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  Speaker 1: I wish it would have been were coming in thirty
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  Speaker 1: days before so we can talk to him and then
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  Speaker 1: make him go to this thirty day program. So at
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  Speaker 1: least he's got But I mean a two day head
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  Speaker 1: start is not gonna do it, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. I was shocked when they said that.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, uh okay, So.
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  Speaker 3: Literally the four days, what three of them are spent
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  Speaker 3: with his brother.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then he gets out that, Yeah it.
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  Speaker 2: Made me listen, you know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we see Brandon getting processed blah blah blah, and
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  Speaker 1: he says, you know this seems you know, inhumane. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sacrificing a lot for my brother, and my brother doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have the plan to be on the right track and
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  Speaker 1: get sober.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. I'm not gonna have.
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  Speaker 4: A relationship with him.
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  Speaker 2: Were already a relationship, right.
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  Speaker 1: So we meet Robert Gatz. He's thirty eight. He's the
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  Speaker 1: brother of Brandon. He's in there for shoplifting and approbation violations,
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  Speaker 1: assault and battery, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: It's no big deal.
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  Speaker 2: So we've seen worse, no big time.
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  Speaker 1: He explains he was in and out of a jubie
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  Speaker 1: from fourteen to eighteen with various charges. That was a
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  Speaker 1: really hard time for him when he was in juby
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  Speaker 1: and at the time he was really just no biggie.
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  Speaker 2: He was doing ex coke and.
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  Speaker 1: Then hard drugs came at twenty eight, So ten years
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  Speaker 1: ago he was a stay at home dad.
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  Speaker 3: That poor baby was given two bottles on east side
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  Speaker 3: of his bouncy seat and put in front of the
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  Speaker 3: TV to watch Dora the Explorer and take care of
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  Speaker 3: itself the whole entire day.
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  Speaker 2: Terrible, terrible.
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  Speaker 4: What kind a mother would leave her a baby with Robert.
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  Speaker 2: Well, she's like, listen, he shouldn't have a choice.
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  Speaker 1: He's just doing a little ex little coke, a little pot,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be it'll be.
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  Speaker 4: Fine to get into fitting all and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: And then baby babe, I should ask a little sen
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  Speaker 3: year old girl next door if she could baby sit instead.
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  Speaker 1: So he says, his buddy came over, who was Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I had to read this a couple of times because
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  Speaker 1: first I thought he said he got percoset. Then I
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, let's explain what the injury was.
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  Speaker 1: But no, his buddy came over who had a prescription
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  Speaker 1: for percocet, and he took it. But then he says,
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  Speaker 1: he really didn't know it, but when you first sniffed it,
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  Speaker 1: it was everything. He So he snorted up the percocet
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  Speaker 1: and he said it was everything he wanted to feel.
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  Speaker 1: But eventually it got too expensive, so he found heroin.
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  Speaker 1: As it goes, so he said, he says, I have
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful son. He had a seizure at age five,
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  Speaker 1: and after that, you know, we didn't know what was
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  Speaker 1: going on with him, and I tried to numb himself.
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  Speaker 1: So the boy maybe has epilepsy. I don't that's not
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  Speaker 1: ever totally.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't get into his dad's stashed or anything like
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  Speaker 3: that that would have been fucking horrible.
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  Speaker 2: But okaysha, I didn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Could have happened, especially with Robert being the babysitter, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: leaving his shit out and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't even think of that would be awful. I
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  Speaker 4: hate when they don't explain stuff. I'm like, no, it's
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  Speaker 4: all had a seizure.
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  Speaker 3: We need to know exactly the diagnosis, Like why did
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  Speaker 3: you chow have a seizure?
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  Speaker 4: Where is this child? Is a child? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Now, like because they mentioned they mentioned the kid, so
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  Speaker 1: the kid's around, but we just don't know, right is
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  Speaker 1: the mother?
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: So he says after that, you know, it was so
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  Speaker 1: upsetting to him that he just tried to numb himself
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: and he lost everyone to his addiction. He lost his
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  Speaker 1: child's mother, he lost his kid, his family, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he lost everybody.
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  Speaker 3: And look, can I just say that this dude looks
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: like he has not had a good night's sleep in
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: like thirteen years.
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  Speaker 4: He's got the horrible BedHead, he's got the red eyes.
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  Speaker 4: He just looks like he hasn't slept well.
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  Speaker 2: He yeah, ah, that's true. He does look like complete shit.
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• 10:58
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• 11:02
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  Speaker 3: I really thought that they were going to say that
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  Speaker 3: he was using while he was in prison because he.
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  Speaker 1: Looks like it he does, or he's just had such
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  Speaker 1: bad withdrawals that this is the you know whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And he says, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Advising, advising before we start filming, please.
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  Speaker 2: Like damn, did somebody give me a brush for this hair?
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  Speaker 3: Just I don't think a brush should do anything because
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: it's like growing out.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's like he needs a squirt bottle so
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: he can it was rush.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: It down, channeling will from life after luck up a little.
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  Speaker 4: Bit with the sticking up here and there. Just never know,
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: just yeah, espially want to lick your head and go
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  Speaker 4: I might help you out.
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  Speaker 2: My son has a one of his best friends.
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  Speaker 1: His hair looks like that, and it is wild because
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  Speaker 1: that I think it's on purpose.
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  Speaker 2: And you're all like, oh, I was like, his hair is.
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  Speaker 1: Insane, and my son's like, I don't know, he likes
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  Speaker 1: it like that, but it looks just like it looks
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  Speaker 1: exactly like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's just pieces all over the place because it's so.
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  Speaker 1: Straight that he can't do it. It's yeah, oh boy,
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  Speaker 1: it's like straight and thick, so it just sticks straight up.
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  Speaker 1: He says, his mother, you know, had to take him
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: in and out of detoxes many many times. And he
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: talks about, you know, his brother being there, and he says,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a brother's love is really strong and I
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  Speaker 1: can remember him and I hope we can rebuild.
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: So it's strong unless you're stilling from him, right.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot less strong lock ever, both his brothers.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like, yeah, we don't see Nathan in there.
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  Speaker 1: So I got a little fruit fly kesha want to say.
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  Speaker 1: One said, you know what, you got all my friends,
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  Speaker 1: but you're not getting me, motherfucker.
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  Speaker 4: Haha.
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  Speaker 3: So you know I noticed that whenever you know they
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: were bringing Brandon in, did you notice what they did
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  Speaker 3: that they didn't do last time.
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  Speaker 4: What they made him do, the bendover cough.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: I heard him say, hey, we have to do this,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: you know, but you're gonna have to bend over, you
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: have to spread them.
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  Speaker 2: But then you heard him go, you heard him cough.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: I would have been like, where the contract exactly?
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Didn't say this ship was okay and necessary because I'm
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: gonna need you guys to give me a.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: Fucking extra thousand dollars. Show him a butthold this is
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  Speaker 4: time necessary. I would I'm like, I'm done.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Think about the button they have to see ew and
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: what if something comes out?
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: What if she cough and something pops out?
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  Speaker 4: I would fall out on that fucking floor.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: You'd be like, it is not worth it. Whenever the
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: state came he for this job, or.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: It's not worth it.
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  Speaker 3: This has fucked me up for a lifetime right now,
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  Speaker 3: Like that would be just the smell.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Ooh eoh, why did you go there? Stop on trying
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: to enjoy my coffee.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So here's where I said, are we going to
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: discuss Brandon's hairstyle, knowing we would have already discussed it. Okay,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: so Brandon will be by himself. He'll be away from
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: his brother for twenty four hours, which we still think
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: is stupid to experience prison and the talk ahead Brandon
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: is like, I don't give a shit about this. I
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: grew up, you know, I was in the military. I
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: grew up in the hood. My dad was in and
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: out of jail for addiction. I've been around a lot
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  Speaker 1: of bad people, so I do have to watch my back,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: but I'm not. He's like, I'm not worried about this.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was pretty smart about it, you know.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even though you know he Chucky came up to
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: him trying to be nice. I have never met a
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: Chucky that wasn't bad. From the dog to my cousin,
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: every Chucky I've ever met has just been bad. Like,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: think about it.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I've never known anybody named Chucky.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: But there was a player and all this that got
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: hit and paralyzed and his name was Chucky Mullins and
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: they have like a statue to him on campus. Everything
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: he did eventually die. But geez, so he was a
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: good guy. But I that's the only cho I didn't
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: know him. I just know of him. I've never met
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: anybody named Chucky in my life. All we know Chuck
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: from ninety Day Fiance Libby's dad, Chuck.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I know a Chuck, but I know some Chucky's And
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you it's something about when they act
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: that I e. That just just fucks it all up,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: like they're just bad or that why, yeah, just bad.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Well, the people are trying to talk to him, and
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: he's like, m like, you want to play ping pong?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: You want to do this?
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: He's like, narp I got twenty four hours to ignore
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: all you motherfuckers.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: So look ping pong in the regular world. So like
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: a good time.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Ping pong in prisons sounds like, buttholes may be included,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: like involved in it, Like there's.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, we're not doing that. Sounds a
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: little bit sexual to me.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: It sounds to me like once you lose at ping pong,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: now you owe me all your sheets and bedding and
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: that's how that's the rules. You didn't know they go
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: and just take all your shit. Yeah, No, he did
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: get he was smart, he didn't get involved. So oh lord,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: here comes doctor Jeff. He swaggers in, He's got a swagger,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: he swaggers in.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: He is ready, he is ready for the lights, camera
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: action always Yeah.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: So he comes, he comes in, He arrives to see Robert.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: So Robert is trying to talk to doctor Jeff, but
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he doesn't even make eye contact him. He's he won't
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: look at him. Yeah, And he tells him he was
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: addicted to opiates. It was heroin, and he's and he
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: also says he used to sell drugs, so that's new information.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: He said, my mother was great, but I just went
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to the streets, had nothing to do with her. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: he says, you know, my mom to me really was
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: like an ATM. He said, I put so much on her.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I would give her such a hard time. It has
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: been so bad for her. So Jeff says, what about
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: your brother Brandon. He says, well, Brandon went off to
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the army after high school and I haven't seen him
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: in ten years. You know, I stole money from him.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I felt awful because I'm the oldest. And to be honest,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: he'd love for Brandon just to give him a chance.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And Jeff goes, Okay, what's your plan for saying sober?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: You know most people go from here to a sober
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: house and he goes.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Nah, I don't want to do that.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear people talking about addiction and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: drugs every day. I just want to be normal and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: just leave it in the past. That's just well, my
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: way is to not deal with it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: That's not a good idea.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: And you you don't understand addiction the way that you
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: think you do.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: You just know how to be an addict. You don't
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: know how to overcome addiction.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: And he says, my way just is not to deal
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: with it, and Jeff goes, uh, huh, So, how long
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: have you been sober this time?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: And he says, right now, five months. We're not sure
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: we believe that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: I didn't believe that. I was actually quite surprised when
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: he said.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: That he's been so good it god.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: So in the talking head, doctor Jeff is like, I'm
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: very concerned going into a sober house is the right
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: way to stay sober. His way is not the way.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Just like forget it and go back to regular life.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: So he just said he was a drug dealer. So
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: day one, he's meeting with his uh, Brandon is meeting
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: with Robert's counselor to review what's happened since he's been
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: in there, and Brandon is saying, you know, oh, you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping my brother's okay, we can rekindle the relationship.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: She goes, okay, well, i'll tell you this.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Robert was in a twenty eight day program and he
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: had six absences and you're only allowed to have one.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: So he was terminated from the program.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And Brandon goes, damn, he's in jail with nothing else
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to do, and he can't give me to this group.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I agree, I like it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Whenever a person is in prison, they come out like
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: ripped up, because like, what the fuck else are you doing?
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Like you might as well work out, I don't know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: go to the drug program.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: That means he went one day and then probably skip
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: the next.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Six days and they're like, we're done with you and
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: you can't come back. Yeah, you can't come back.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: Stupid.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: He goes, well, it seems like if he won't do that,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: he's not taking it seriously. And she goes and it
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: sounds like his home plan is to go back to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: his apartment where he was before, and.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: He was like wow.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: And she goes, and you know, his drug of choice
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and he's a heroine. She goes and fentanyl. Oh, it's
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: like so dangerous and he's like what, Yeah, he said, No,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know. Well, I mean, how would
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: he know. He hasn't talked to many Yeah, yeah, she says,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you know, there are things we can do to help him.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: There's AISS all Inclusive Health Services to help him on
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the day of his release. There's meetings he can go
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: to immediately. There's things we can't do. If you go
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to the AISS, that will help him, right, and Brandon goes.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But if he doesn't want it, I can't help him.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I'm here to help him as much as I can
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and explain that he's going to lose me.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: As a brother.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I got two days to encourage him to get a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: plan going or it sounds like a death sentence.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, fucking Are I with fitting all?
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Robert and Brandon are going to meet with
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: doctor Jeff and the talking head. Robert says, the relationship
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: with my brother is the most important thing to be
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But I've done some terrible things and I would understand
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: if my brother wants to let go of the relationship,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: and I would never fault him for that. You haven't
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: talked to him in eight years, he's already help each other.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all don't know each other at all.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Neither one of you knows how the other's hair is
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: gonna look.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be a fart for both of you. Filthy hair.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: And I tell you what, I was waiting for doctor
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Jeff to be like, Okay, guys like Brandon didn't say
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: anything about my jacket put and we all pick a
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: moment from my jacket, Please a moment for this jacket.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Chick me up.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: He cracks me up. He did have like a nice
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: little like sweater under his jacket. He looks great, he
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: always does.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: He could dress. Yeah, he dressed as well.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: So they see each other and they hug, and nobody
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: says anything about the other one's hair, which was surprising.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: The one was like, God, your hair is fucked up.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: The other one's like, yeah, cool, look at yours. So
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Brandon says to Robert, He's like, man, I've been in
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: here like one day.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Man, this place, this place, ain't it? Man? This place
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: in it?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: And doctor Jeff comes in and Robert gets really teary
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: and he says life is going by him, and he
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: says the drugs have put me in a standstill, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Jeff goes, you're.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Out of here in two days, and he got.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: No plan, and he goes, well, I'm just gonna go
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: get a job and fill my time because in the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: past I would just sell drugs to fill my time.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna have to change everything, like my
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: whole Outlook, I'm gonna.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Just and that's the whole plan right there, to get out.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get a job. On the first day,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I'm going to move back into my apartment. What about
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: like and by the way, I'm I'm sure the apartment.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I'm sure the apartment is gone. By the way, I'm
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: sure gone. It's probably gone. But also, can you imagine
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: what it looks like? No, his hair, that's.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: A good one. Okay.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So Jeff says, so what are you doing to do that? Like,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: what have you done? And he goes, well, I've done
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: a group and Jeff goes one group. He goes, yeah,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I did a group, and Jeff go Jeff goes the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: twenty eight day program.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: You didn't complete it. You're just ready to go and
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: get out of here. And you didn't do it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: You didn't do the program. And he goes when you
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: guys are just in. You're like throwing shots at me.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: And Jeff goes, oh, so you think we're picking on you,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and he goes, no, I.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Don't think you're picking you. Just it was shot to
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: be Okay, I missed a couple of groups, but it
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't helping me at all.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Well he only went to one.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: It wasn't helping me, man, And Brandon goes, okay, so
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: just speak up about that. Let me know.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Why why do you keep coming back here, like to prison?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And Robert goes, I'm not coming back here, Brandon. I've
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: been here one time since two thousand and six. And
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Brandon goes, okay, bro, I visited you in juvie. It's
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: been the same thing since that. Man, it's over and over.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: You're my brother, and I love you, man, and you're
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: my older brother. And this is why I'm here. So
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Robert gets up and tries to leave, like he's crying.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: He like he can't take anything, Like he could hardly
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: just sit down in a chair. Yeah, Like I feel
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: like there's something else going on with him that we
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: just don't know about.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like he was too worked, he was too amped
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: up for me.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: He can't take this confrontation.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: He doesn't want to hear about what he's done and
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: making them ns for it or anything like that. So
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Jeff says, you know, Robert, we need for you to
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: be clean and sober. That's what we need for you.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So he gets up, he walks out. He's like, take
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: off my mike, take off my mic and he said.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: This sucks. Fuck on you guys, you know, so the
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: talking head Brandon goes.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Robert just plays the victim like I'm here to help him,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: and he says, I'm throwing shots, like you know, he's
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: out of his comfort zone in this place and I'm
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: here for him.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Like this is ridiculous.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So now they're going to be housed together to continue
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to confront issues in the relationship. I was like, oh man,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I thought that was the end of Robert. I thought
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: we weren't go to see him again, but I guess
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: we are.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if I would have wanted
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: to go wanted to go back with Robert, Like is
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: he gonna abandon me? He's gonna tell these people to
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: beat me up, He's gonna give him some taffy.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: To fucking give me a shiner, Like nervous.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'd be nervous too.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: So they go back to go to the unit and
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the producer is asking Robert, Okay, you're gonna need to
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: put your mic on everything. He goes, no, I don't
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: see the point of this. I don't I don't see
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the point of this. And the producer says, your your
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: brother is here in jail to have conversations with you,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: so I'm talking head. Robert goes, I feel, Brad, my
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: brother's had time out of his life to do this
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and help me and step into my life.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I mean it means a lot, but I mean.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: He don't care.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: So Robert says, come eat with me. So he and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Brandon take their little trays and sit at the chest
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: table or whatever, and they eat and they talk about
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: how bad the food is, and Robert's like, I mean,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: this is bad, but it's definitely been worse. And Robert says, look,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here and bran and Brandon says, I
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: just want you to have a game plan with an
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: action plan and doing what you're doing just lead you
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: back here or into the grave.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: It's one of the two.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: And he says, and maybe I haven't seen you in years,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: but I wanted to physically present myself to you to
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: show you that I still love you and that I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: have hope for you. Yeah, and Robert says, well, I'll
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: be out in two days, and so hopefully we can
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: keep in touch because I need positive people in my life,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and he goes, you.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Got to be that.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Those a not the people at the rehab like they're
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: not positive enough.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Like, no, they're too much. They're talking about addiction he
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: don't want to talk about.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: They're just a bunch of Debbie downers in there. So yeah,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: I doesn't want my brother.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, just need positivity.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: It brings them down, and it brings them down.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Those people are annoying.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brandy goes, you gotta fall through, man, you
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: gotta be consistent, you gotta be sober.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I love you, man, They hug whatever.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Day three, you want to talk about somebody who looks
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: like that hadn't slept in thirty years. Here comes Robert's mom.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: This thing has been She looked like she saw demons
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: in her sleep last night, Like she just looked worn out.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: And I'm sure she's probably worn out from him worrying
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: about him.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: And maybe she's drink too much the night before.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but she she did not come in
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: camera ready.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: But we also don't know if Robert's her only child,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and then Brandon and Nature our only child.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I assumed.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then the other two brothers are with other mother,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: So she sits with him.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: You know, they hug and it's very sad.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And she says, your Robert, if you don't make
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: these changes to get sober, I can't I can't be
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: there for you anymore.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: This is it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: You can imagine. And I had a cousin in my
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: life who just drains the life out of you. And
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I mean he my cousin eventually died, and you the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: drain everything from the parent.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: The parents get divorced over it because.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: One parent wants to wants to give all the money
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and the other parent wants to tough love it, and
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you'll get divorced over it. And then one parent loses
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: all their money to this one kid.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: It's awful.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And that's the situation here.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like she has given every penny everything she
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: had to get him in and out of detox and
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: rehab and everything.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: And so and it's just all been, I mean, a
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: waste because he just wasn't.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: He's not on board. He's not on board. So the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: brothers talk to doctor Jeff and Roberts. So Robert says,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I've had a I guess the brothers aren't
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: with her yet, right.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're together, And then sitting there, Yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: I think his mom was just really yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: She would.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: She acts like she had never seen a chair before
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: in her life. I don't know if you noticed it
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: or not. I'm like, bitch, it's a chair, Sit in it.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Why are you just standing there? Look like it's for you.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: She the lady brought it. Right.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: It was like she's just she seen some ship.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: That's right. And she's probably scared of her kid too.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: I bet that's well, and also probably afraid that she's
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: in prison. Yeah, all men's prison.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: If something breaks out, she's fucked.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: You can't look at that. Doctor Jeff can't offend you.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Well, look what's he gonna do.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: He came with this pretty loafer.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: If anyone can thrive in prison, it is Todd Christly
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: and doctor Jeff.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, listen, listen, we're not saying okay.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: So they're talking to doctor.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Jeff and Robert says, you know, I had a long
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: night to think about, you know, my behavior or whatever,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm I'm really angry, but mostly at myself.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: And Jeff goes, twelve hours, man, you're out of here.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: So as brothers, what was the thing between the two
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: of you, And Robert says, I don't know. Brandon had
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: me go to the store or something and I stole
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: sixty dollars and Brandy goes, it's not even near anywhere.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: What happened? What are you talking about?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: He says, I was asleep in my room and I
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: woke up and had a text message from the bank
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: saying a couple one hundred dollars had been taken.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: And Robert goes, huh. He goes, oh shit, I thought
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: I just went to the store.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Brandy goes, yeah, Well, later after you came into my
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: room and saw I was super pissed off at you.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: You told me I shouldn't have sept my pen as
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: my birthday, like it's your fault.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't have had your.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Pen your pen set it is your birthday, which you know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: by the way, that is stupid.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: But it is stupid, especially when you know you have
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: like a crackhead in the house who knows your birthday.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: It's awful.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: And he goes and he goes, that's what you said
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: to me, And Robert's said hmm, and Robert goes, my bad, he.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Has no recollection.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: He goes, either way, I did that and that was
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: my bad, and I'm sorry, Like he's like, I don't
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: remember that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I thought I went to this store whatever. Yeah, remember.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: So Jeff goes, Okay, so you burn that bridge with
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: your brother. What has happened with your mom, who is
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: a shell of a human sitting here, who didn't know
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: what a chair was, and she's looking at these kids
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: with this fucked up hair and thinking where did I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: go wrong?
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: So yep, he goes, I've hurt my mom mostly for
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: being a bad father. That's been the worst for her.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So we don't know if mom had to take this baby.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: We don't know if if mom has had a hard
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: being able to see the kid because maybe the baby
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: man says no, like, we don't know because they focus
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: too much of the show on the first part of
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: him being in prison, before they need to go right
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: in and do three days of this. I agree yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and she's he says, you know. The mom says, we
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: were so close when he was young, but around sixteen
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: to twenty he got in the system and it just escalated.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: In his twenties, he's been on drugs. He knows, he's
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: put me through hell and back again. I have been
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to neighborhoods and places I should have never been. Ooh,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: that's theery, And she says, and I had. She's either
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: had to pick him up or take him.
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Five yeah, of course whatever, looking for.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Him, looking for him yeah, And she says, I have
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: no idea why I've done all these things, but I've
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: tried to save him. I've tried to pick up the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: pieces and he doesn't have a plan. And if he
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a plan, I have to let him go.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So now he's like, now your own mother is saying.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: To let you go. I'm done.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Jeff goes, Okay, So you want to be
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: a good dad and a good son for your mom,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And he says, more than anything, I want to do
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it for my mom.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Now, I want to tell you something right now.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: And people that are in addiction in recovery, they will
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that's the one thing they'll correct you on every time.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: You're not doing it for your mom, your wife, your brother.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: You have to do it for yourself. Once you can
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: get selfish and do it for yourself, then everything else
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: will work itself out. Yeah, but he's saying I want
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to do it for my mom, and doctor Jeff is
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: not correcting him.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I think that's just just like okay, any glemmer of hope,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: if that's what you want to hold on to. But
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: now I agree, you have to want things for yourself.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: It's just like losing weight you have. You don't do
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: it so you can get a boyfriend. You do it
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: because you do it for you to be healthier, happier.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: But now I have a note that Kim comes in
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: here now, so maybe she sorry that one fruit flaw.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm the last one standing. I'm going to
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: avenge my brothers.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I'm doing it for my brothers.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: So now maybe Kim wasn't in there. I don't know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: so maybe what we were listen.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: It was like still figuring out what a chair was.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: She was still furi Yeah, she had to google it.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: She's like, let me google what is.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: So Robert is hysterically crying when his mom is Yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and she's like, it's okay.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: But I think they told her don't try to like
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: sit by him or hug him or like you go
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: over there, like don't try to coddle him too much. Yeah,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And Jeff says, I really want Jeff says, okay, Robert
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: really wants to be sober. He wants to do it
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: for you, and he wants to do for his son,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and he wants to do it for Brandon, but he
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a plan. And Jeff says, Kim, for years,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: you've enabled him, but this is it. This is it now, Kim.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: And she says, I now have to worry about my
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: own health. I can't be doing this. So she either
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: has a health issue or you know, maybe she has
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: cancer or something. But she's like I and maybe she's
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: just so worn down from the years of stress and stress,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and this last arrest was like I can't do it anymore.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna die trying to help you exactly,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and she says, if you don't pull it together this time,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to let you go, like this is it.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And so Di, I mean, in his mind, he's like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: she's not gonna give you any more money, you know.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: So Jeff says, let's talk about what we're gonna do.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: We're going to love you through it. It's not it's
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: not what he needs. Robert, Robert says, I'm gonna do it.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do a program. And
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: he says, because I'm scared to go home, because you
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna do. You know what I'm gonna do.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: So okay, so he's admitting going back to the marketing it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, And Jeff says, you're going to get recommendations of
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: what to do when you leave.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Will you follow it?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And Brandon says yeah, yeah, or I'm gonna Brandon says,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you're gonna end up. Brandon says, you're gonna end up
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: here or six feet under, and I'm gonna walk away.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: And so Brandon saying I'm gonna walk away, and Kim says,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and I will also walk away, and Robert says, there
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: has to be a plan. I have to come up
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: with a plan. There has to be well, you've had
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: five months, but okay.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and people have been telling you this for five
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: months that you need to get your shit together. Yeah,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: he just needed a little doctor Jeff in his life.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I guess I got Jeff.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: I got a check.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Doctor Jeff consoles him and says, it's okay, you're gonna
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: come up with a plan. So he hugs him, and uh,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Brandon leaves.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Day three, the brother's hug say I love you, say goodbye,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and I was like, you're gonna see him tomorrow. Okay, right,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Brandon says he's okay in these walls.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, is he?
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: But you know, and I'm trying. I'm trying, I will
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: be you know, we're okay. But if he's not willing
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to do the work and you know, get better, I
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: can't watch him kill himself.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: So we can't see him in eight years.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: So anyway, I mean, I just keep going back to that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not like you good long time.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: So, but I mean earlier Robert said he hadn't seen
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: him in ten years.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Well that's Robert saying that I got to know with
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: the counting that Brandon did.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, you're right.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: One day later, Robert is leaving jail. He plans to
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: go right to and aftercare and get set up with
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: services in IOP and go to AA and make a
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: plan and he lost his job. What you're in jail
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: for five months? Well you were talking months, so yeah. Yeah.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: He says he's used.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: To doing the same thing over and over and over,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: but now he's going to do a total life change.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: He knows it's possible. In the end, all you have
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: his family, and he hopes his brother is waiting when
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: he walks out, and of course he is, because that's
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: what we're doing here.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I hope we get an episode where.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: They tell us about everybody at the end.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Well that they I hope we get an episode where
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: it is a shaker that the person didn't go pick
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: them up.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, which would be horrible.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: That would be horrible.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: But maybe the person's horrible when they go in and
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: they're like, well, fuck it, I'm not gonna teach you.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe these first two episodes are trying to give us
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: good stories because next week you're gonna hit his.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Hard with the negory. I think so.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: So Brandon says, I'm here to take you to the program,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and and he says it's day one. You know, he's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: going to build his support system and maybe it'll be
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: all right, And uh, Robert goes, this is hard man,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: but I gotta have tunnel vision.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: It's hard.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: It's a tough road, you know. Everybody hopes he sticks
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: to it. Okay, three months.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: And see I knew it was bad when they said
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: three months because remember last episode it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Was one week, so he's had a lot more time.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, so three months, so I think, Okay, So this
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: is Brandon talking and he says, I saw him and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: it was all positive. But then after a month he
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: got arrested for stealing, and we forced him into a
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: rehab facility and we hope that there he can get that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something that a rehab facility, they're
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: gonna make you talk about addiction a lot, like all
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: day all.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: That's their job.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's not. He's not gonna like it there.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: They're gonna make him.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Talk too addiction. You better like it. He better like
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: it and like it quick. So he's gonna be fucking miserable.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And he says, we forced him into a rehab facility
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and we hope he can get the help there that
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: he needs. I want to be there for him for
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: good and bad. Well, I mean, you just said you
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: were gonna cut him off, and then you didn't do it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I think it's, you know, easier to say that when
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: you haven't seen or really talked to them in eight years.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: But then film, Yeah you know what I mean, and
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: it kind of melts your heart a little bit. So, yeah,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: he needs the support, Yeah, he needs it. He needs
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: it because the boy ain't sleeping right at night, that
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: hadn't slept a full eight hours.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: No, they don't, they have not.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: He says, I want to be there for him, good
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: and bad, and I know it takes a village. And
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: then we get the screen that says Kim and Brandon
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: are continuing to support Robert in his sobriety. Now we
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: got no information about Dad, we got no information about Nathan,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: but those two are going to try to help him.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: If he's in a.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Facility now, a thirty day facility for somebody like this
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: is not even gonna sat enough scratch the surface.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: The twenty eight day program wouldn't have helped.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Long term, but it would have at least gotten him started,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: so when he got out, he was and he'd be
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: more prepared.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: He would go right into one of these programs.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And the language is familiar and the type of people
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: are familiar. And but he just seems sort of above
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: it all, and you're like, you're not above it all.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: You're doing heroin and fentonyls, you know, street drugs. You're
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: not above it all.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: And that phenyl, I mean, you don't know what that
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: stuff is cut with, Like you're not getting straight up fenl.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: And that's the scary part. That the phanandyl is bad enough,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: but it's just stuff that they cut it up with.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: The Macy bars. I had a friend that odd off
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: of it two years ago and they I mean it
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: was sad because they literally found them like outside in.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: A field by a dumpster.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Oh god head. It was just so devastating and it
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: was just like.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Fuck and you're like, your life is worth more than
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: being found dead by it you.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Found dead like that that. Yeah, the whole thing was heartbreaking.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: But that was just like too much, too too much, and.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I think too after so many years, which it seems
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: like this guy Robert has been so many years on
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: these drugs. After so many years on these drugs, you
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: it takes a long time for your brain to like, yeah,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: wire its after being on those drugs for so long.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: So it's not even like thirty days will do anything
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: for you except for maybe encourage you to do the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: next thirty days, or encourage you to do the thirty
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: days after that, or even like the three hours after that.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: You know, hopefully he gets it together, because you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Know, again, we say, please, when these ten or however
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: from the episodes we have are done, please give us
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: a rolling recap.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Of everybody and so on.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Please get that boy and ambient because he needs a good,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: nice sleep, because he.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Just no, then he'll start to storting it. We don't
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: want to store ambient keisha.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Sorry, right, I'm sorry. That's just the truth.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: People snort the ambient and then they try to stay
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: awake through it, and then you're supposed to get you know, real,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: real crazy.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't fall asleep with ambient.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I don't either.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: My mom takes it every so often and says it
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: just knocks her out, works like a term.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I wish I was like that.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you got to take take six
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: tries to put you down.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I might still wake up in the middle of the night.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Well I don't. I don't take any tries. I don't
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: take any tries anymore. Not great.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one day she told me goes eventually. Our goal
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: is to get you off with a treas bitch you Lyne.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not a part of that meeting.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Like what.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: James and I had a discussion and we're just letting
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: you know. No listen.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: If it works for you and you get a good,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: solid nights sleep, that's good. I could probably use a
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: little little tries here and there. It's just like I
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: have such a hard time falling asleep. That's why the problem.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: You know, some people go through menopause and you really
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: can't sleep, and and you're hot and you're cold.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: And you got a dog laying on you.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: It sounds like I'm just talking about myself, which I am.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: No judgments here, No judgment here, double double dog in
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the bed, everybody. That's our episode. This is Family lock Up.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: It's an A and E on Thursday nights. If you're
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: not watching it, if you want to see the bad hairdoos,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go and check it out.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: You owe it to yourself to see these bed haircuts or.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: I don't even know if we should call them haircut.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Well, Robert has an excuse. He's in prison and he
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: just has somebody chopping that up. With scissors, like he didn't.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: You know, that's but but Briandon had no excuse.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: He did that shit on.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Purpose, and he thinks it looks really good. And how
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: did he keep that going for three days? He just
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: didn't wash his hair because he couldn't. He could have
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: brought his gel products into gel it Forward.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: And why did he keep that going? He just did
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: He just didn't wash his hair. He's like, I ain't
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: getting in that shower.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: He played ping pong in prison.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, well, here's hoping next week is it's
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's a girl.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe we get a lady.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hopefully we get.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Some bad chop instead of.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, addiction.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, because we need to just a break
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: from the addiction to something else.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: We need a little break, feel better about making fun
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: What's another crime?
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Could it just be just a full like car ring,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I just stole them, oh you know. Or it could
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: be somebody that's just the kingpin of the drug dealers
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: but never did drugs.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: That'd be good. Yeah, like Montana Mills.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Like Montana Mills did never do the drugs, just was
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: the drug dealer. Yeah, we would take that over this sadness.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah yeah, Okay, listen, guys, we're trying to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: make it funny.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Everybody followed Keisha.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: She has a podcast, The Liberta with Keisha, and make
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: sure you're following her on social media as well. Please
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: make sure you're following me over on the Instagram, the TikTok,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Pink Shade Pod, Pink Shape Podcast. Just there it is,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: and we'll be back next Friday for an episode of
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Family lock Up. And here's hope where we get a
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: non sad prisoner.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, you might have throw on your fingers, ye,