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Speaker 1: six forty.
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Speaker 2: AM six forty handle. Here it is a Tacol Tuesday
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Speaker 2: a new star is going on Hollywood Walk of Fame
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Speaker 2: who battled the Palisades and Sunset fires earlier this year.
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Speaker 1: Not that they don't deserve it, they do.
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Speaker 2: I just didn't know that the Walk of Fame I
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Speaker 2: the I think the Nobel Peace Price can go to organizations,
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Speaker 2: which it has in the past.
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Speaker 1: So this is well, they certainly deserve it. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Now a little bit about the data center, the data
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Speaker 2: center boom, and we know that AI sucks up a
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Speaker 2: tremendous amount of power. And where do you get the
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Speaker 2: power again from utilities of course. And here is what's
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Speaker 2: going on, and this is the part that's kind of interesting.
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Speaker 2: This came out of a cal Matters event in downtown
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Speaker 2: San Jose. And the bottom line is AI and growing
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Speaker 2: demand for these centers putting a lot new pressure on
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Speaker 2: it California's electric grid. Which makes sense because when we're
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Speaker 2: talking about a whole lot of pressure, you got to
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Speaker 2: build more.
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Speaker 1: We have to produce more energy.
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Speaker 2: It's not only a question of the power plants, but
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Speaker 2: also the infrastructure, the power lines, the transformers to transfer
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Speaker 2: all this power around. Well, San Jose, with this took place,
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Speaker 2: is ground zero for how California is going to deal
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Speaker 2: with the rise of data centers that are going to
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Speaker 2: be used to power artificial intelligence. And here is the
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Speaker 2: fly in the ointment, and that is the utility has
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Speaker 2: to effectively guess how much power is going to be
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Speaker 2: needed by these data centers.
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Speaker 1: You can't do it retrospectively.
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Speaker 2: You have to do it proactively because let's say data
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Speaker 2: center is built and all of a sudden, it needs
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Speaker 2: a hell of a lot more power than is currently available.
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Speaker 1: In that region.
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Speaker 2: Well, how long you think it takes to build up
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Speaker 2: more power. You just don't overnight build new power plants
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Speaker 2: or install transmission lines or basically enhance the grid. So
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Speaker 2: what happens is they have to guess and this is
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Speaker 2: what the utilities are going up to the state because
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Speaker 2: the state controls this and saying we think this is
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Speaker 2: going to happen. We don't know if it's true or not,
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Speaker 2: but we want the capability of this happening. And first
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Speaker 2: of all, the state has to give the ability for
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Speaker 2: them to even begin. They have to ask permission to
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Speaker 2: build these power sites, the plants, the power lines, transmission lines, etc.
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Speaker 1: And then the argument is.
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Speaker 2: How much capability should or should they not have, and
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Speaker 2: what should they build in anticipation and who pays for it?
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Speaker 2: And that's the fight that's going on because forecasting is
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Speaker 2: particularly tough. And why well, I'll tell you there was
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Speaker 2: one of the experts, ling Men, who directs Stanford's Bits
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Speaker 2: and Watts initiative, says that forecasting is really tough. Why well,
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Speaker 2: let's look at chat, GPT the app and other apps
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Speaker 2: of that same milk that use large language models. Which
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Speaker 2: ones are going to take off which ones are not,
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Speaker 2: how popular are they going to be, How much electricity
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Speaker 2: is going to be needed, How much power is going
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Speaker 2: to be needed to build and to build, create and
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Speaker 2: maintain these power these data centers. No one has any idea,
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Speaker 2: and the utilities have to guess. So local officials have
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Speaker 2: begun to grapple with all of this. Also, keep in
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Speaker 2: mind that by twenty forty five we have to be
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Speaker 2: what is the word I'm looking for, By twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 2: we have to be carbon free, that's the phrase, carbon
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Speaker 2: free electricity by twenty forty five.
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Speaker 1: So you have we can't even do it now.
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Speaker 2: Why is that even if we go one hundred percent
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Speaker 2: carbon free, they're still backup generators.
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Speaker 1: And what do you do during heat spells?
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Speaker 2: Right now, we only use a portion of what the
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Speaker 2: capability is like normally you wake up this morning, we're
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Speaker 2: about forty five percent of the capability of what the
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Speaker 2: the grid could produce. Well, okay, nothing, We have plenty
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Speaker 2: of power, not when it's hot, not when it's insanely hot,
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Speaker 2: we don't, and so add to the demand when it's
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Speaker 2: insanely hot, and a data center which they have to
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Speaker 2: keep be kept very cold and they're massive. Put all
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Speaker 2: that together, and you're gonna need a lot more electricity. Okay,
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Speaker 2: how much?
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Speaker 1: We don't know.
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Speaker 2: Well, how big is the power grade? What do you
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Speaker 2: think is gonna have to be? We don't know, but
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Speaker 2: we want the ability to create it. We want the
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Speaker 2: permission from the state. Well we don't really know why.
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Speaker 2: We don't know how big, but you sort of everybody
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Speaker 2: has to guess.
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Speaker 1: That's the problem.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a big, big, big deal, all right,
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Speaker 2: already being reported. Have you ever heard of the phrase
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Speaker 2: moderate millionaires? What is a moderate millionaire? Is it a
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Speaker 2: millionaire who is moderate?
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Speaker 1: Actually? Maybe?
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Speaker 2: So let's talk about millionaires per se. That's a million
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Speaker 2: dollars in assets, all right, probably not including the house.
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Speaker 2: The number of four to one k millionaires at Fidelity
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Speaker 2: reached six hundred and fifty four thousand. That's the highest
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Speaker 2: level three point two accounts balances over a million dollars.
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Speaker 2: That may seem like a small amount. That's double though
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Speaker 2: than it was in twenty twenty two. And the average
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Speaker 2: deferral rate, and that's the money you put into it
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Speaker 2: that you don't pay taxes on at Vanguard increase almost
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Speaker 2: eight percent. So this millionaire club is growing. Yet it
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Speaker 2: is a moderate millionaires club. And I'll explain in a
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Speaker 2: moment what moderate millionaires are all about. For one thing,
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Speaker 2: they're moderate, and second of all, they are millionaires, which
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Speaker 2: is why they call it moderate millionaires.
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Speaker 1: I'll explain it. Very complicated stuff.
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Speaker 2: So we're talking about steady saving, third consecutive year, big
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Speaker 2: games for the US stocks, swollen account balances. People that
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Speaker 2: have four oh one k's and have invested the over
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Speaker 2: the last two three years, there's been a lot of gain.
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Speaker 2: So people who keep on investing or have invested are
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Speaker 2: doing really well, and a whole lot of them across
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Speaker 2: a million dollar milestone that's in your four oh one
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Speaker 2: k a million bucks. For the first time, half of
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Speaker 2: private sector workers are saving in four oh one case.
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Speaker 2: First time that over half are actually putting in four
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Speaker 2: oh one case. By the way, you guys are nuts
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Speaker 2: not to put in for four one case, especially if
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Speaker 2: you're in a company that matches, which ours used to.
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Speaker 2: Now I don't think iHeart matches does any more matching.
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Speaker 1: It still does.
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Speaker 2: It matches the amount of amount of money that you
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Speaker 2: put in. By pulling it out, is that the matching
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Speaker 2: that they do here's what companies Again it is okay,
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Speaker 2: well imagine this, so three percent matching. So let's say
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Speaker 2: you make one hundred thousand dollars. I don't know who
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Speaker 2: does that, but let's say that's three thousand dollars that
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Speaker 2: you're allowed to put in tax deferred into a four
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Speaker 2: oh one K that is matched, which means for that
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Speaker 2: three thousand dollars, you're making one hundred percent interest rate.
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Speaker 2: And that's assuming that the market doesn't even go up,
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Speaker 2: so at least that you are crazy, cause whatever the
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Speaker 2: investment can you double every year. And that's what happens
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Speaker 2: with four oh one K plans and matching money. And
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Speaker 2: so the other thing about four oh one ks is
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Speaker 2: you put money in and it's deductible. So let's go
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Speaker 2: back to the one hundred thousand dollars income. I think
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Speaker 2: you're allowed to put up to fifteen percent in your
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Speaker 2: four oh one K. I think that's the law. Well,
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Speaker 2: if you put in fifteen percent, that's fifteen thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: That means your taxable income goes down. Fifteen thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: is tax deferred. So it's a great idea, it's a
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Speaker 2: great plan. And so.
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Speaker 1: Here we go, what is.
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Speaker 2: A moderate millionaire, especially here in southern California. Well, a
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Speaker 2: moderate millionaire has a million dollars. As a matter of fact,
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Speaker 2: this model that they're talking about is between one and
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Speaker 2: five million dollars in your four to oh one K plan.
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Speaker 2: So for those of you that have hit hit a
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Speaker 2: million dollars in four oh one K, that is not
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Speaker 2: a bad income because if at five percent, you're getting
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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars with a million dollars put away, fifty
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars in retirement is not a bad but it's
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Speaker 2: not a bad chunk of money.
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Speaker 1: But are you still middle class? And here's what a
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Speaker 1: survey said.
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Speaker 2: People that have a million dollars shop like their middle
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Speaker 2: class people that have up to five millionar that's one
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Speaker 2: to five moderate millionaires. They think of themselves as middle
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Speaker 2: class and they shop as if they are middle class.
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Speaker 2: And this is one of those things where if you
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Speaker 2: are smart enough over a lifetime to live under your means,
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Speaker 2: which most people should do. I know Neil lives way
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Speaker 2: under his means, and I live way under my means,
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Speaker 2: which means that our retirement is going to be pretty good,
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Speaker 2: pretty good, And that's really the secret what a lot
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Speaker 2: of people don't understand is millionaires, in the vast majority,
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Speaker 2: become millionaires by saving, not by investing, not by creating businesses,
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Speaker 2: not by flipping property. It's just saving over a lifetime, steady,
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Speaker 2: tortoise like saving and growth that happens. And guess what,
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Speaker 2: by the time twenty thirty years pass, Hey, you've got
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Speaker 2: enough money in the bank where you are, if not
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Speaker 2: a millionaire in terms of spendability, but certainly making your
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Speaker 2: life a whole lot easier. And one of the things
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Speaker 2: that I remember my first day of law school, and
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Speaker 2: the dean of law school said to a group of us, well,
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Speaker 2: there's two things that she said. First of all, right,
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Speaker 2: now everybody looked to the left, looked to the right,
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Speaker 2: and one of you will be gone by the end
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Speaker 2: of the year, because about thirty percent of law school
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Speaker 2: students drop out.
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Speaker 1: Because it's so difficult.
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Speaker 2: So they say, so I turned to my guy on
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Speaker 2: the left goodbye, turned the one on the right and
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Speaker 2: said goodbye. And the other thing that the dean said,
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Speaker 2: which was still stays with me. I mean there were
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Speaker 2: time of forty years ago and she said, I know,
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Speaker 2: this sounds like a lot of work.
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Speaker 1: Over the next three years.
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Speaker 2: I know this sounds almost insurmountable with what we're going
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Speaker 2: to expect you to do and how difficult law school.
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Speaker 1: Is, but you want to know the three years pass anyway.
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Speaker 2: And I that that's true because three years from now
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Speaker 2: I'll be on the other side of a law degree.
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Speaker 2: And so the point is that I think I'm going
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Speaker 2: to extrapolate from that to become a moderate millionaire or
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Speaker 2: even beyond that. Is so you put money away every month,
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Speaker 2: every month, every month, and you want to know the
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Speaker 2: time passes anyway, so you might as well make use
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Speaker 2: of it.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, in my case, both the people
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Speaker 2: to my left and right dropped out of law school.
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Speaker 1: They were tossed, which I thought was really terrific. I
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Speaker 1: got a lot of joy out of that.
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Speaker 2: As you can probably imagine American consumers, that's all of us,
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Speaker 2: and a couple of things are going on. Prices are increasing,
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Speaker 2: even though we're being told by the White House prices.
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Speaker 1: Are down and continue to go down. Eh, not really.
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Speaker 2: Now, there's certain prices that have gone down, but I'll
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Speaker 2: tell you where they have not. Car prices they're going up,
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Speaker 2: and you know, we may have just reached the limit
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Speaker 2: American consumers. Car buyers may just say this is enough,
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Speaker 2: We're done. Big optimism for twenty twenty five at the
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Speaker 2: beginning of the year. Well, auto sales now is predicted
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Speaker 2: to be down or at least flat October, the slowest
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Speaker 2: in over a year. So what are we seeing dealers
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Speaker 2: offering more discounts, lower income borrowers defaulting on car loans
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Speaker 2: in increasing numbers. Financial strain, that's obvious because two things
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Speaker 2: that people will normally pay as quickly as they can
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Speaker 2: house payments, rent otherwise get tossed out car payments because
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Speaker 2: they have to go to work. And when someone arty
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Speaker 2: faulting on car payments. There's some really serious stuff going on.
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Speaker 2: And for years it seemed like they're no sticker price
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Speaker 2: was high enough. American car buyers just kept on buying
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Speaker 2: and buying. New car approaches hit fifty thousand dollars this year.
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Speaker 2: You know, with dealers were really concerned about were inventories,
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Speaker 2: We don't have enough inventory than losing customers. Well, those
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Speaker 2: days are coming to an end and rapidly, because stretched
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Speaker 2: consumers are starting to draw the line on what they're
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Speaker 2: going to pay for a new car. We've just had it.
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Speaker 2: We just can't do it. So what's happening. Car buyers
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Speaker 2: are downsizing. They're buying used cars, which of course those
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Speaker 2: are super expensive because there aren't as many being put
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Speaker 2: on the lots. They're taking on longer car loans. They
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Speaker 2: talked about that with with Joel Larsguard last week, and
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Speaker 2: they're just not buying the way they used to. Robert Peltier,
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Speaker 2: who owns a bunch of dealerships in East Texas, says
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Speaker 2: people are asking, how can I afford this? And so
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Speaker 2: where they're going cheaper cars like the pine size Chevrolet Tracks.
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Speaker 2: I never even heard of a tracks. Have you ever
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Speaker 2: heard of the tracks? I don't know what a tracks is?
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Speaker 2: Pine size car, I don't know. Maybe you know the
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Speaker 2: size of a sardine can.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, he went on to say, people who are
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Speaker 2: in debt and are living paycheck to paycheck are looking
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Speaker 2: at these cars. So twenty twenty five supposed to be
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Speaker 2: a banner year. We had tax cuts, the regulatory wave,
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Speaker 2: and analytics analysts predicted a third straight annual sales increase.
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Speaker 2: Guess what didn't happen? Didn't happen, and why was it
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Speaker 2: going to be such a banner year. Well, the coronavirus
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Speaker 2: pandemic and the shortages are done. Semiconductor shortages are done. Finally,
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Speaker 2: the car factories got to running full steam and we
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Speaker 2: had real reason for optimism. There was a shortage because
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Speaker 2: of post COVID supply change that was done, and now
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Speaker 2: this pent up demand, consumers willing to pay when inventory
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Speaker 2: came back. And guess what, No, No, Now you have
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Speaker 2: auto tariffs, inflation, tighter job market, and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 2: Americans are rethinking the biggest ticket purchases, and one of
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Speaker 2: the biggest tickets, the biggest ticket purchase is the car
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Speaker 2: after the house, and if you're a renter, it's the
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Speaker 2: car after the car. And the other thing is the
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Speaker 2: EV revolution has collapsed. No one's buying evs anymore. I
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Speaker 2: mean that literally has collapse, where car companies are just
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Speaker 2: getting out of the EV business. I bought an EV,
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Speaker 2: I own an EV the second my and I'm leasing it.
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Speaker 2: I've done that for the last few years. The second
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Speaker 2: my leases up. Chow baby, I'm out of the EV world.
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Speaker 2: The seventy five one hundred dollars tax credit, which was gone.
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Speaker 2: That and the fact that there aren't enough charging stations
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Speaker 2: out there, and there's a whole world to evs that
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Speaker 2: were not told about. I found that out when I
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Speaker 2: went and went and bought a pair of a set
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Speaker 2: of tires. How much sorry that bought my car twenty
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Speaker 2: four hundred dollars hold for four for two, for four
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Speaker 2: for two?
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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? For four?
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Speaker 2: Four tires were twenty four hundred dollars six hundred bucks
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Speaker 2: a tire. I had no idea, And I come in,
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Speaker 2: I go, I only have eighteen thousand miles on this car.
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Speaker 1: How can I have a new set of How can
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Speaker 1: I get a new set of tires?
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Speaker 2: What are you guys thinking about eighteen thousand miles? Oh,
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Speaker 2: you're three thousand miles better than our average.
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Speaker 1: Thank you save a pile of money.
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Speaker 2: But why do I have an EV and I paid
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Speaker 2: dearly for it relative to a gas powered car? Is
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Speaker 2: because of electricity savings and I don't have to go
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Speaker 2: into a gas station. Well I don't have to go
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Speaker 2: into a gas station, but I have to charge my car.
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Speaker 2: Electricity is not cheap. On top of that, I've got
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Speaker 2: range anxiety. How many miles do I have before I
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Speaker 2: run out of juice, and where the charging stations, and
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Speaker 2: unless you're going to a supercharger, of which they are
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Speaker 2: few and far between, you're sitting there for hours charging
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Speaker 2: a car. How long does it take you to fill
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Speaker 2: up a car at a gas station?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Three minutes and you fill the thing up and off
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Speaker 2: you go. So there's a lot wrong with evs and
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Speaker 2: people realize, you know, these were not the panacea. So
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Speaker 2: October selling rate was the slowest and more than a year.
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Speaker 2: We haven't got Novembers yet, but cars are sitting longer
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Speaker 2: on dealer lots. Dealers are giving us more discounts, and
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Speaker 2: we're going to see. It's a whole new world now.
18:47
Speaker 2: The very high end cars are doing okay. Why because
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Speaker 2: aren't many of them being built, And you have the
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Speaker 2: disparity between wealthy and poor is becoming wider and wider.
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Speaker 2: So those people who are on the wealthy side, the
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Speaker 2: wealth increases and they can afford the fancy, fancy cars.
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Speaker 2: But that number is not huge. It's bigger, but it's
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Speaker 2: not huge. In the meantime, on the other side of it,
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Speaker 2: before between inflation and housing costs and job uncertainty.
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Speaker 1: Man, it is not fun. And buying a used car today, well,
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Speaker 1: look even.
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Speaker 2: The parts you buy a used car, Okay, I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: save a pile of money. Well, maintenance on a car
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Speaker 2: is not cheap. Have you ever replaced you get into
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Speaker 2: a bumper? A fender bender? Right?
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Speaker 1: All right?
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Speaker 2: How much can it cost for a offender? Fifteen hundred dollars?
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Speaker 2: Twelve hundred dollars? It's gotten crazy?
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Speaker 1: All right? Ooh.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that has come up, and we're
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Speaker 2: talking about this early this morning, is the story my
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Speaker 2: seven to fifty story, my personal experience that happened yesterday.
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Speaker 2: So let me first talk about what's going on in
20:02
Speaker 2: the United States. Laws legalizing marijuana in state after state
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Speaker 2: has meant that the drug is certainly more accessible for adults,
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Speaker 2: both for recreational and medicinal purposes, depending on the state.
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Speaker 2: But that means that marijuana infused edibles are likely to
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Speaker 2: fall into the hands of young children.
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Speaker 1: One of the things.
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Speaker 2: About the creation of these laws allowing mainly recreational cannabis
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Speaker 2: is that they make these edibles that look like gummies,
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Speaker 2: that look like.
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Speaker 1: Straight out look like candy.
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Speaker 2: So yesterday I was sitting at our kitchen counter, and
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Speaker 2: Lindsay was at work doing something on her computer, and
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Speaker 2: right in front of her was a starburst.
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Speaker 1: Oh those little.
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Speaker 2: Candies, you know, they're wrapped up and they look like
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Speaker 2: they're wrapped with wrapping paper. They have the fold and
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Speaker 2: they're stall You know those candies that everybody knows what
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Speaker 2: a starburst is, Right, Neil, you know what a starburst is?
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Speaker 1: Amy, you know what a starburst is. Everybody knows what
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Speaker 1: a start.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so there's this little yellow starburst Cono, do you
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Speaker 2: know what a starburst is?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay, so everybody does. I just want to
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Speaker 2: make sure we're all on the same plane here. And
21:22
Speaker 2: so I look at the starbursts, I go. I pick
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Speaker 2: it up and I start unwrapping it. And Lindsay said,
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Speaker 2: how high do you plan on getting?
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Speaker 1: Go? What are you talking about? She said? That is
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Speaker 1: an edible that will knock you on your ass. Oh.
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Speaker 2: Now, let's say I'm a kid and it's just sitting there.
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Speaker 1: What am I gonna do?
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna grab it and I'm gonna unwrap it and
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put in my mouth And can you imagine
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Speaker 2: a eight or ten or twelve year old or a
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Speaker 2: seven year old unwrapping one of those things. And that
21:53
Speaker 2: is the problem is going on throughout the country big time.
21:56
Speaker 2: And I've got a dog that's making all kinds of
21:58
Speaker 2: noise here, Sorry about that.
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Speaker 1: Can you hear the dog squeaking? No? Okay, did you
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Speaker 1: just see one of those edibles? No? No, but my
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Speaker 1: dog just did.
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Speaker 2: In any case, so, there are no federal packaging laws
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Speaker 2: for edibles. There are federal packaging laws for tobacco and alcohol,
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Speaker 2: but not from not for edibles. And therein is just
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Speaker 2: a touch of a problem because kids are in fact
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Speaker 2: eating them and they think they're candy.
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Speaker 1: You know why, because they are candy.
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Speaker 2: They are candy that are infused with cannabis, with THC
22:39
Speaker 2: and in many cases a whole lot of THC. So
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Speaker 2: the edible that was sitting on our counter, as I've
22:48
Speaker 2: spoken to you about it, and Neil certainly knows that firsthand,
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Speaker 2: is Lindsay has a severe autoimmune disease known as CRPS,
22:57
Speaker 2: in which it's a lot of pain twenty four hours
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Speaker 2: a day. It's complex regional pain syndrome. So she eats
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Speaker 2: a lot of pot to deal with it. And I
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Speaker 2: if I were to pick one up. If I were
23:09
Speaker 2: a kid and pick one up, I'd land in the hospital.
23:12
Speaker 2: And too many kids have landed in the hospital, and
23:16
Speaker 2: so there's a big movement afoot and all they have
23:21
Speaker 2: at this point, since there are no federal packaging laws
23:24
Speaker 2: and there's no necessary reporting, has to be done. If
23:29
Speaker 2: a provider thinks that the kids are in danger for
23:33
Speaker 2: what be because of what the parents say, they have
23:34
Speaker 2: to call the authorities. But kids coming in high because
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Speaker 2: they accidentally ate an edible and they're going into the
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Speaker 2: r room, what's the doctor going to do? Just let
23:43
Speaker 2: us let the child sleep it off and just be
23:46
Speaker 2: more careful. Well, the laws are going to get much
23:51
Speaker 2: more serious than that, because these actually endanger kids. And
23:57
Speaker 2: is again to come to the point where, even if
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Speaker 2: they are candy or look like candy, do these have
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Speaker 2: to be labeled correctly?
24:05
Speaker 1: Are they going to have to be labeled?
24:07
Speaker 2: Are they going to be packaged in a way that
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Speaker 2: they are not attractive to youngsters that they don't look
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Speaker 2: like it's straight out starburst or a gummy. I mean
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Speaker 2: it looks well, I'm say it looks like it is.
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Speaker 2: It's just it's manufactured with all this cannabis and it's
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Speaker 2: a problem.
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Speaker 1: It is a problem. It's a problem for me.
24:29
Speaker 2: Yesterday I was about to take one. She should have
24:33
Speaker 2: let me, actually, she thought, because it's highly entertaining. You
24:37
Speaker 2: see me higher than a kite. I am not a
24:41
Speaker 2: belligerent drunk, although I don't get drunk. I don't drink,
24:43
Speaker 2: and that's one of the reasons, because I get stoned
24:47
Speaker 2: or get drunk instantly, and the same thing with cannabis
24:49
Speaker 2: or anything else. I look like I make myself an
24:51
Speaker 2: ass now, Neil, I know I normally do. But if
24:55
Speaker 2: you can figure out that I do it twice three
24:58
Speaker 2: times as much, go figure all right?
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Speaker 1: Coming up rich to Murrow, KFI is.
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Speaker 2: Funny, Bill, if you spoke normal and didn't do malaprops
25:06
Speaker 2: and things like that when you're high.
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Speaker 1: Uh, that's true. What if I got high? Would you
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Speaker 1: be so kind as to get me something from the
25:15
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost you know.
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Speaker 2: The the analogy here is kids who have a severe
25:22
Speaker 2: autism issue. And what has happened is that kids who
25:29
Speaker 2: are out of control, you know a lot of ADHD.
25:32
Speaker 2: They've actually used Riddlin, which is an upper to deal
25:35
Speaker 2: with and it works, and that's really unusual. So for me, oh,
25:41
Speaker 2: since I sound stone and out of control anyways, in
25:44
Speaker 2: terms of my ability to communicate, can you imagine if
25:47
Speaker 2: I got high and then was able to communicate like
25:50
Speaker 2: a professional broadcaster.
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Speaker 1: It's worth thinking about, isn't it. Kfi A M sixty
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