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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. We hope you're having a great holiday. Your
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- 0:12Speaker 1: of our favorite classic episodes for the very last week
- 0:16Speaker 1: of the year. Indeed, starting off with one of our
- 0:19Speaker 1: earliest episodes, it'll be kind of fun for us to
- 0:22Speaker 1: check this one out and see how we did. I
- 0:25Speaker 1: think it'll be fun for all of us. This one
- 0:26Speaker 1: is about Winston Churchill's quest to um kill Nazis in
- 0:34Speaker 1: some pretty ridiculous ways. Ridiculous History is a production of
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- 1:37Speaker 1: We would just have to take it slow at first
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- 1:45Speaker 1: way to approach life. It is true, Indeed, it is true. Indeed,
- 1:51Speaker 1: this is of course the show where we look at
- 1:53Speaker 1: all these strange, fascinating, at times silly and often ridiculous
- 1:57Speaker 1: stories of yesteryear, and this one that that you found
- 2:03Speaker 1: was completely new information to me. I had no idea,
- 2:08Speaker 1: And Nolan I have talked about oh and also shout
- 2:11Speaker 1: out to our super producer Casey Pegrum. Hey, Casey, we
- 2:16Speaker 1: got a thumbs up. He's in a good mood today, uh. Nolan,
- 2:20Speaker 1: I have talked often about these strange cockamami assassination attempts
- 2:26Speaker 1: that sound like there's something out of Naked Gun. You mean,
- 2:29Speaker 1: just like in our spare time? It comes up? Because
- 2:33Speaker 1: what is spare time right now? I love the Naked
- 2:36Speaker 1: Gun movies? Um? What I always think about is all
- 2:39Speaker 1: of the kind of James Bond esque devices that were
- 2:43Speaker 1: already so ridiculous they barely needed to be satirized, but
- 2:47Speaker 1: the Naked gun always managed to kind of take it
- 2:49Speaker 1: to another level. Absolutely. And the truth of the matter
- 2:55Speaker 1: is that in decades past, with the emergings of modern
- 3:01Speaker 1: intelligence agencies or their precursors, from let's say call it
- 3:06Speaker 1: after World War One through World War Two and on
- 3:09Speaker 1: and on to the present day, UH, we saw this
- 3:13Speaker 1: rise in very what should we call them, out out
- 3:16Speaker 1: of the box plans to assassinate world leaders. Probably one
- 3:22Speaker 1: of the most famous examples for this for most people,
- 3:25Speaker 1: it would be, uh, the CIA's plans and their various
- 3:29Speaker 1: attempts to either humiliate, undermine, or assassinate Fidel Castro. You know, like,
- 3:37Speaker 1: what are some of the weird things they tried there? Yeah,
- 3:39Speaker 1: I mean the one you think of is like practically
- 3:41Speaker 1: a prank that you would play on, you know, an
- 3:44Speaker 1: unsuspecting friend who smokes lots of cigars, the old exploding
- 3:49Speaker 1: cigar trick. You think about it from like Looney Tunes
- 3:51Speaker 1: and stuff, And I always thought of it as you know,
- 3:53Speaker 1: like a little ha ha. But no, if there was
- 3:55Speaker 1: like thermite in that thing. It but take your head
- 3:58Speaker 1: off right. What we found was that Fidel Castro and
- 4:02Speaker 1: the CIA are not unique entirely. And what you introduced
- 4:07Speaker 1: me to is today's topic. Very strange story about former
- 4:12Speaker 1: British Prime Minister Winston Churchill. And it's cool because there's
- 4:16Speaker 1: actually a biopic coming out about Churchill with the absurdly
- 4:21Speaker 1: talented Gary Oldman portraying um Mr Churchill. So Churchill was
- 4:28Speaker 1: one of the first European leaders that was vehemently opposed
- 4:34Speaker 1: to Adolf Hitler and the Nazis, and it sounds like
- 4:37Speaker 1: kind of like a no brainer, but it was there.
- 4:40Speaker 1: You know, there was sort of a I don't know,
- 4:43Speaker 1: I'm not a don't ask, don't tell policy, but kind
- 4:45Speaker 1: of like let's see what happens kind of policy in Churchill,
- 4:48Speaker 1: you know, really took up the mantle of this is
- 4:50Speaker 1: a humanitarian crisis, this is an issue of UM good
- 4:55Speaker 1: versus evil, and sort of framed the UK as being
- 4:59Speaker 1: on the good side UM. His broadcasts really boosted the nation,
- 5:05Speaker 1: the whole mindset of the nation UM and who were
- 5:09Speaker 1: pretty freaked out by what Hitler would be capable of,
- 5:12Speaker 1: and as a result, Hitler and his you know, goon squad.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Uh really really wanted to put an end to this man.
- 5:24Speaker 1: How how do you how do you do a thing
- 5:26Speaker 1: like that? I mean, Churchill was incredibly insulated, you know,
- 5:30Speaker 1: he as you know, any leader of a nation is
- 5:35Speaker 1: constantly under surveillance, kept under lock and key. You know,
- 5:40Speaker 1: how are they going to reach a guy like that? Right,
- 5:42Speaker 1: one of the most protected non royal family members in
- 5:46Speaker 1: the in the Kingdom. But he was actually like working.
- 5:48Speaker 1: You know, you'd think they would protect him more. They
- 5:50Speaker 1: just kind of prop up the queen and you know,
- 5:53Speaker 1: kind of trundle her out during you know events, smile
- 5:57Speaker 1: a wave. Oh boy. Uh. So in two thousand and
- 6:00Speaker 1: twelve we finally learned what they were planning. And oh, body,
- 6:06Speaker 1: is it weird? Ye? This is not a thing that
- 6:08Speaker 1: was like super common knowledge until a letter or a
- 6:12Speaker 1: few letters, have a parcel of letters, shall we say,
- 6:15Speaker 1: was unearthed, um bearing a secret stamp a little on
- 6:21Speaker 1: the nose, isn't it. He just like, don't look at this,
- 6:23Speaker 1: it's secret. Okay, that's time. I'm gonna open that right
- 6:27Speaker 1: on up. Uh. And the letter was commissioned by a
- 6:34Speaker 1: Lord Victor roth Child, m who was an m I
- 6:37Speaker 1: five senior intelligence chief. Now Ben, is this the roths
- 6:41Speaker 1: Child of the roths Child Roth's child, So that was
- 6:43Speaker 1: a mouthful. Yeah, related to for sure, big powerful family
- 6:49Speaker 1: from from the UK, far reaching political control and even
- 6:54Speaker 1: to this day uh influence over the banking system of
- 6:58Speaker 1: the UK and politics correct financial clout. For sure, Lord
- 7:03Speaker 1: Victor Rothschild during peacetime was a scientist and a key
- 7:07Speaker 1: member of the Rothschild banking dynasty when he wrote so
- 7:13Speaker 1: he wrote this letter to a talented illustrator that he
- 7:18Speaker 1: was aware of, named Lawrence Fish. It is such a
- 7:21Speaker 1: good British name. And on May four, Lord Victor Rothschild
- 7:28Speaker 1: wrote to Mr Fish and asked him to draw poster
- 7:31Speaker 1: sized images of a particular type of chocolate for the
- 7:36Speaker 1: purposes of warning the public to be on the lookout
- 7:39Speaker 1: a nice chucky. You've seen that episode of Money Python
- 7:43Speaker 1: where they have the is a candy company that has
- 7:46Speaker 1: an assortment and they're all really unpleasant. Like one of
- 7:50Speaker 1: them it's called like the the New Get Surprise, and
- 7:53Speaker 1: then you bite into it, it shoots out bolts to
- 7:55Speaker 1: either cheek, piercing them from the inside. And there's one
- 7:58Speaker 1: that's the crunchy frog that has has an actual tiny
- 8:03Speaker 1: amphibian inside of it, and the crunch comes from the
- 8:05Speaker 1: crunch of its bones. Uh. This particular device would be
- 8:09Speaker 1: quite at home in that assortment because one of the
- 8:12Speaker 1: devices that was sketched out by Mr Fish It was
- 8:17Speaker 1: a chocolate bar containing a layer within that when snapped,
- 8:25Speaker 1: would explode. That's right. You see, Lord Victor Rothschild had
- 8:30Speaker 1: received word of a possible Nazi plot to kill Winston
- 8:34Speaker 1: Churchill by smuggling this chocolate into the war cabinet's dining room.
- 8:40Speaker 1: And this war cabinet here is a group of people,
- 8:43Speaker 1: it's a specific cabinet. I just now I'm victory of
- 8:46Speaker 1: Winston Churchill getting up at three in the morning and
- 8:49Speaker 1: his skivvy's and then walking through the war cabinet to
- 8:53Speaker 1: get chocolate. Yeah, when you know he had some fine,
- 8:56Speaker 1: fine silk pajamas. Oh, that's certain of it. You're probably right,
- 9:00Speaker 1: and you're probably right the treating question. This chocolate bar
- 9:05Speaker 1: was finally wrapped in black and gold paper and lab
- 9:08Speaker 1: labeled uh Peter's Chocolate. And here's the thing. It wouldn't
- 9:11Speaker 1: have aroused suspicion at least the Nazis hoped because it
- 9:17Speaker 1: wasn't a fake chocolate bar, it was actually chocolate, and
- 9:22Speaker 1: they put a lot of thought into this. Right. According
- 9:25Speaker 1: to a British spy who actually firsthand got a look
- 9:28Speaker 1: at this exploding delicacy, um, he was able to draw
- 9:34Speaker 1: the first artist's rendering of it. And what it was
- 9:37Speaker 1: was a steel plate, a very thin steel plate covered
- 9:40Speaker 1: by a thin layer of dark chocolate. And as I
- 9:44Speaker 1: said before, when the chocolate bar was broken, along those
- 9:47Speaker 1: those nice square lines where you can get to you
- 9:50Speaker 1: a little piece, snap, you want to snap it because
- 9:52Speaker 1: it's tempered chocolate. We'll get it nine a second, um,
- 9:55Speaker 1: that would detonate the device. Only then, that is when
- 10:00Speaker 1: there was a canvas strap that connected to the explosive inside.
- 10:05Speaker 1: And only once you broke it could you actually see
- 10:07Speaker 1: it had a seven second delay following that very satisfying snap,
- 10:12Speaker 1: and apparently was powerful enough explosive that the effects could
- 10:17Speaker 1: be felt for uh several meters in all directions. Right,
- 10:21Speaker 1: and this was high powered explosive. Yeah, And in all
- 10:26Speaker 1: the research about this, I couldn't find specific mention of
- 10:30Speaker 1: the type of explosive used. But in this cash of
- 10:34Speaker 1: drawings uncovered from mr Fish. There there were multiple drawings
- 10:39Speaker 1: various devices, exactly one of which looked sort of a
- 10:41Speaker 1: military issue crock pot, I guess um where there was
- 10:45Speaker 1: a false bottom and it had like you know, peas
- 10:48Speaker 1: and bangers and mash kind of dish on the inside,
- 10:51Speaker 1: and it looks like it used thermite, which then you
- 10:54Speaker 1: can probably speak to. This is a pretty powerful substance
- 10:58Speaker 1: that can burn through steel and when ignited properly and
- 11:02Speaker 1: used in a certain way, can cause some serious carnage. Yeah,
- 11:06Speaker 1: Thermite is a composition of metal powder that could be
- 11:10Speaker 1: a fuel metal oxide. The thing with thermite is when
- 11:13Speaker 1: you ignite it with heat, it undergoes pretty intense exothermic reduction,
- 11:19Speaker 1: oxidation or redox if you want to be cool with
- 11:23Speaker 1: the the explosive crew uh redox reaction. And most varieties
- 11:29Speaker 1: of this stuff are not explosive. They just create brief
- 11:32Speaker 1: burst of heat and high temperature in a small area.
- 11:35Speaker 1: But you can make it explosive, and that's what you'll
- 11:40Speaker 1: see that that's how you can make like thermite hand
- 11:44Speaker 1: grenades and stuff like that, so it can be weaponized.
- 11:47Speaker 1: And I guess because we're dealing with such a thin
- 11:49Speaker 1: um and small item. Like I said, even though I
- 11:52Speaker 1: didn't see specific mention of thermite and the chocolate bar drawing,
- 11:55Speaker 1: it was in some of the other drawings in this
- 11:58Speaker 1: cache of of of illustration. So um, let us know
- 12:01Speaker 1: if you've heard anything beyond um this speculation. But the
- 12:06Speaker 1: point is this could really do some serious damage, especially
- 12:10Speaker 1: if you're holding it close to your face. It would
- 12:13Speaker 1: you know, cause a blast that would you know, could
- 12:16Speaker 1: of course kill you. Right And this chocolate bar in
- 12:21Speaker 1: an our our opinion, was one of the strangest devices,
- 12:26Speaker 1: but it was, as as we had said, one of several.
- 12:30Speaker 1: There's the military mess ten and there are a couple
- 12:34Speaker 1: of different diagrams I believe of the chocolate which you
- 12:37Speaker 1: can view online. There's a historian named Nigel West who,
- 12:43Speaker 1: in speaking with BBC said that he believes Rothschild probably
- 12:47Speaker 1: paid out of pocket for these diagrams. Uh. This just
- 12:51Speaker 1: for context with Lord Victor Rothschild. It's not like he
- 12:55Speaker 1: was hard up for the scratch or the cheddar. But
- 12:58Speaker 1: he was a good a good citizen. He was a
- 13:02Speaker 1: very what's the word patriotic individual and wanted to use
- 13:07Speaker 1: his wealth um for the greater good. And he was
- 13:09Speaker 1: I guess sort of more of a consultant, I guess,
- 13:12Speaker 1: or like a board member of some kind. Yeah, he
- 13:15Speaker 1: just for prison draw salary, just for perspective. When m
- 13:19Speaker 1: I five was scouting out some offices to locate in Paris,
- 13:24Speaker 1: he said, you guys just used one of my mansions.
- 13:26Speaker 1: You got a few, yeah, you got you kicking around
- 13:29Speaker 1: to He was the Paris mansion. And so once Fish
- 13:33Speaker 1: completed the illustrations and sent them to Rothschild, he liked
- 13:37Speaker 1: them so much that he had he had one framed
- 13:40Speaker 1: in his home library. Again, this is top secret stuff,
- 13:44Speaker 1: and then he put the remaining prints in storage. So
- 13:54Speaker 1: when these letters were found, when this parcel of letters
- 13:58Speaker 1: was found in historians around the world wondered, well, what
- 14:03Speaker 1: happened to the illustrations, because at first they only found
- 14:05Speaker 1: the letters. But then super recently in early September UM,
- 14:09Speaker 1: some of the members of the Rothschild family, we're sorting
- 14:13Speaker 1: through some documents and they found the drawings, and experts
- 14:17Speaker 1: consider them pretty incredible for pre digital graphics. These are
- 14:22Speaker 1: like hand drawn kind of cross sections of diagrams of
- 14:27Speaker 1: all these different devices and actually here in the house
- 14:29Speaker 1: stuff works offices in Atlanta Georgia upon City Market. We
- 14:33Speaker 1: have um, a bunch of framed illustrations that are right
- 14:36Speaker 1: along these lines. We've got one that shows a gas
- 14:38Speaker 1: mask in cross section and all the different layers of that.
- 14:41Speaker 1: We have one that shows I believe like a nerf
- 14:43Speaker 1: gun or or something like super socer, super soccer, that's
- 14:46Speaker 1: what it is, but very similar in style and not
- 14:49Speaker 1: an easy feat to do accurately by hand, um, especially
- 14:53Speaker 1: you know in in in in those days. And we're yeah,
- 14:56Speaker 1: we're huge fans of cutaway diagrams. If you have any
- 15:00Speaker 1: really cool ones, please send them to us, because we will.
- 15:03Speaker 1: We'll just look at them for fun. We literally want
- 15:06Speaker 1: to know how stuff works, It's true. And so the
- 15:08Speaker 1: chocolate bar drawing in particular was seriously compelling because it
- 15:14Speaker 1: really could actually work, um because you know, people like
- 15:19Speaker 1: a nice, tasty chocolate treat, and the bar was designed
- 15:23Speaker 1: to detonate um using minimal effort from the individual consuming
- 15:29Speaker 1: said a treat. Right, So, like, all you gotta do
- 15:32Speaker 1: is do that thing you're gonna do anyway, give it
- 15:34Speaker 1: a snap. You don't have to do anything special, it
- 15:35Speaker 1: won't feel unusually difficult, doesn't have to be any particular
- 15:39Speaker 1: line right, because the whole thing runs throughout the whole bar,
- 15:42Speaker 1: so it could be like, you know, breaking in half
- 15:44Speaker 1: or just breaking off a little piece. Yeah, and so
- 15:47Speaker 1: this kind of strategy, spycraft, espionage was very common on
- 15:52Speaker 1: the German side. They were super into it. Oh and
- 15:54Speaker 1: I forgot to mention Lawrence Fish the reason he got
- 15:58Speaker 1: hit up for this. He was the sun of one
- 16:00Speaker 1: of the three m I five counter sabotage agents at
- 16:03Speaker 1: the time, so there was a family relation there too.
- 16:06Speaker 1: He wasn't I don't think Rothschild was just you know,
- 16:09Speaker 1: flipping through a magazine and said, ah, this is the guy.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Let me just ask him this weird question. There's another
- 16:18Speaker 1: weird detail at about Churchill at the end. But as
- 16:22Speaker 1: s Noll said, they've we found these documents quite recently
- 16:26Speaker 1: when the Rothschild family were sorting through stuff on the
- 16:29Speaker 1: estate in September. And you have to wonder how strange
- 16:34Speaker 1: and fascinating that cave of wonders must be. Yeah, look
- 16:37Speaker 1: at this trove treasures untold yes, yes, exactly, and gizmos
- 16:42Speaker 1: as a plenty, and you know, I'll tell you it's
- 16:44Speaker 1: significant to that the Germans did not use milk chocolate.
- 16:48Speaker 1: They didn't use white chocolate. They used dark chocolate, and
- 16:51Speaker 1: that is because of the way chocolate and a chocolate bar,
- 16:55Speaker 1: and dark chocolate in particular has to be tempered. So
- 16:58Speaker 1: what's the deal with tempering then? Right? Okay? Tempering chocolate
- 17:02Speaker 1: is essentially melting it and then stirring it vigorously as
- 17:06Speaker 1: it cools. Pastry chefs know all about this. I learned
- 17:09Speaker 1: about it pretty recently because my daughter is a big
- 17:12Speaker 1: fan of this new pastry cooking show on Netflix called
- 17:15Speaker 1: Zombo's Just Desserts, and also The Great British Bakeoff, where
- 17:20Speaker 1: tempering chocolate is hugely important when they're making decorations or
- 17:24Speaker 1: things that have to stand up to pressure or like
- 17:26Speaker 1: you know, chocolate shapes that they then put on cakes
- 17:29Speaker 1: or decorate the size with it, because otherwise it will
- 17:32Speaker 1: not hold its shape and it will melt all over
- 17:35Speaker 1: the place. The same is true for a chocolate bar.
- 17:37Speaker 1: In order to be able to hold it and have
- 17:39Speaker 1: it be you know, manipulatable and break on those lines
- 17:43Speaker 1: of demarcation, the chocolate has to be tempered correctly, right,
- 17:46Speaker 1: And one of the questions would be why why tempered chocolate?
- 17:50Speaker 1: So I propose that we take a page from our
- 17:52Speaker 1: good friends Lorn and Annie over at our sister show
- 17:57Speaker 1: food Stuff, and we'll talk of it, just briefly about
- 17:59Speaker 1: the food side giants. Here. The short answer for why
- 18:02Speaker 1: you would want to temper chocolate is that chemically it's
- 18:05Speaker 1: composed of several different tiny crystals, six to be exact.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Of these six there are, there's one desirable type, and
- 18:13Speaker 1: they're called beta crystals. Developing informing these crystals is what
- 18:18Speaker 1: makes us the key to the good chocolate. So the
- 18:22Speaker 1: one in comparison, be like a cup of chicken stock.
- 18:24Speaker 1: It might seem homogeneous, uniform throughout, but the fat's gonna
- 18:28Speaker 1: rise to the surface. And when chocolate is an emulsion,
- 18:33Speaker 1: but if you're warm and melt it, you break the
- 18:35Speaker 1: emulsion as it cools. Cocoa butter rises to the surface,
- 18:38Speaker 1: unattractive but harmless, and sometimes that even makes people throw
- 18:43Speaker 1: away the chocolate. We can briefly laundry lists the reasons
- 18:46Speaker 1: you would do you a temper chocolate. Avoid fat and
- 18:49Speaker 1: sugar bloom, you know, those white streaks or blotches on
- 18:52Speaker 1: the surface. You raise the melting temperature the finished chocolate
- 18:55Speaker 1: so it doesn't melt on contact with your fingers, which
- 18:58Speaker 1: would be super awkward if someone's like, hey, what is it?
- 19:00Speaker 1: Why is there canvas at this far? Uh preserves you know,
- 19:04Speaker 1: the keeping quality, cools it quickly, and it gives it
- 19:08Speaker 1: that classy glossy shine, makes it pretty, especially if you're
- 19:11Speaker 1: using it like a like a pastry chef would use it.
- 19:14Speaker 1: And the final most important thing, not just for pastry chefs,
- 19:17Speaker 1: but for would be Nazi assassins. Again, would be Nazi assassins,
- 19:24Speaker 1: is that tempering chocolate gives it that capacity for that crisp,
- 19:28Speaker 1: clean snap at to pop the pa for emphasis. There
- 19:32Speaker 1: was a good, good, good pe popper good thing. We've
- 19:34Speaker 1: got these nice popper stoppers on our mics here. Um.
- 19:38Speaker 1: But yeah, and I hope I didn't set it up
- 19:40Speaker 1: too much at the top of the show. This sound
- 19:41Speaker 1: like this was a successful attempt, because everyone's like, I
- 19:44Speaker 1: don't remember hearing about any exploding chocolate bars and attempts
- 19:47Speaker 1: on Winston Churchhill's life. Yeah, because it didn't really happen. Um,
- 19:50Speaker 1: these were beta tests at the very best, right, these drawings.
- 19:55Speaker 1: But my question to you, bens. These drawings were commissioned
- 19:59Speaker 1: by the British government based on technology the Nazis may
- 20:03Speaker 1: have had, um how where what's the connection there? Reported
- 20:07Speaker 1: by a British spy who was embedded on the German side.
- 20:12Speaker 1: And because this this is part of the story that
- 20:15Speaker 1: they don't emphasize too much. It's just a funny little detail.
- 20:20Speaker 1: So the British spy was actually the first one to
- 20:23Speaker 1: draw the diagram. Uh, let's say, I don't wanna, I
- 20:26Speaker 1: don't want to cast too much as version on the guy,
- 20:29Speaker 1: but let's say he was stressed and maybe a little
- 20:31Speaker 1: distracted with this other stuff, because apparently the first drawing
- 20:34Speaker 1: he made was just garbage, terrible. It was like a
- 20:37Speaker 1: dumpster fire candy bar drawing. But then fish was past
- 20:41Speaker 1: those documents and was able to um get a little
- 20:44Speaker 1: more granular and detailed with him. So I just have
- 20:47Speaker 1: this picture in my head of Lord Rothschild reading the
- 20:52Speaker 1: messages from the spy and going quite quite and then going,
- 20:57Speaker 1: oh no, it's a very poor sketched This won't do
- 21:02Speaker 1: one bit. And then you know what, who's who has
- 21:06Speaker 1: the boy who draws? Someone send a someone send a
- 21:10Speaker 1: memo to the boy. The boy. I hope he addressed it,
- 21:13Speaker 1: Dear the boy. Yes, of course, that's how they referred
- 21:15Speaker 1: to their underlings. I hope we've done a pretty good
- 21:26Speaker 1: job establishing the worry that they were tackling at this time,
- 21:32Speaker 1: or that they were addressing, because as well, I hate
- 21:36Speaker 1: to overuse the word and all, but as ridiculous as
- 21:39Speaker 1: it sounds today, in this was a very real concern.
- 21:43Speaker 1: This was quite possibly a way to kill the Prime minister. Absolutely,
- 21:47Speaker 1: and then looking through these, uh, these drawings, the thing
- 21:49Speaker 1: that that occurred to me was, you know, think about
- 21:51Speaker 1: what happens when we go through airport security. Now we
- 21:53Speaker 1: gotta take out our laptops. There's all kinds of like
- 21:55Speaker 1: they have to we can't have you know, hair gel
- 21:58Speaker 1: or certain types of liquid because the technology now and
- 22:02Speaker 1: the um everyday objects that it could be embedded in
- 22:06Speaker 1: are much more complex. These drawings and these devices are
- 22:10Speaker 1: very very analog and very um just practical and functional.
- 22:15Speaker 1: And it required you know, a physical uh touch to
- 22:19Speaker 1: actually detonate, you know, as opposed to being done by
- 22:21Speaker 1: remote or being integrated into the circuitry of a phone
- 22:25Speaker 1: or a computer or something like that. So this this
- 22:27Speaker 1: was cutting edge for the time, right, sure, Yeah, this stuff.
- 22:30Speaker 1: I really appreciate you saying that because this stuff is
- 22:32Speaker 1: all mechanical. There's no there's no sort of electronic wizardry
- 22:37Speaker 1: or sorcery going on here. We also want to tell
- 22:40Speaker 1: you about just a couple of the other items. No,
- 22:43Speaker 1: I think you mentioned that army mess kit that does
- 22:46Speaker 1: look like a crock pot. They also had a motor
- 22:50Speaker 1: oil can with explosives inside. You know, maybe not, Maybe
- 22:54Speaker 1: that's a little too on the nose, since motor oil
- 22:57Speaker 1: is already a dangerous thing around by or uh. One
- 23:01Speaker 1: of the ideas, going back to the history in Nigel West,
- 23:04Speaker 1: that Germany was focusing on was destroying ships that would
- 23:09Speaker 1: reach the United Kingdom so they could deprive Britain of
- 23:13Speaker 1: food stuffs. And this would be you know, this is
- 23:16Speaker 1: almost like a siege mentality at that point. And we
- 23:20Speaker 1: say this because sure, killing the prime minister of an
- 23:24Speaker 1: enemy country would be a setback. Yeah, to say the least,
- 23:29Speaker 1: it's a tremendous coup, right, But if you really want
- 23:34Speaker 1: to shut down the entire country, then do something that
- 23:38Speaker 1: affects everybody. So they were really focusing on trying to
- 23:41Speaker 1: sink or destroy the ships while they were out at
- 23:44Speaker 1: sea and um. According to an article on the BBC
- 23:49Speaker 1: that we found from Nick Higghum. The chocolate bar might
- 23:53Speaker 1: have been the most bizarre explosive device that they found
- 23:57Speaker 1: in these drawings, but the one that was probably potentially
- 24:00Speaker 1: the most effective involved the timer, very intricate timer that
- 24:05Speaker 1: would go off after twenty one days and involved a
- 24:08Speaker 1: rotating disk. And at the top it says in bold letters,
- 24:12Speaker 1: do not unscrew here, and at the very bottom equally
- 24:15Speaker 1: bold according to this article, unscrew here first. So, you know,
- 24:20Speaker 1: very important to get those timers right, to assure that
- 24:23Speaker 1: the ship went down well out of range of any
- 24:26Speaker 1: kind of help. Yeah, and devious, right, ingenious time. Uh.
- 24:31Speaker 1: And you know, if we're being objective about it, that's
- 24:34Speaker 1: some really impressive engineering. We we do have. I think
- 24:38Speaker 1: a cool place to close here, uh that I think
- 24:41Speaker 1: you will enjoy. One of these things might be a
- 24:43Speaker 1: surprise for funeral. You will be happy to know, friends
- 24:46Speaker 1: and neighbors that Lawrence Fish went on to become quite
- 24:50Speaker 1: a successful designer graphic artist, right, and he had a
- 24:56Speaker 1: longer rewarding career. What I probably a police should have
- 25:00Speaker 1: mentioned at the top, and this is going to be
- 25:02Speaker 1: the last fact for me regarding this story, is that
- 25:06Speaker 1: Winston Churchill himself believed he had another layer of protection
- 25:11Speaker 1: in addition to the state security forces, in addition to
- 25:16Speaker 1: the power of the ninety Kingdom's military. You see, Winston
- 25:22Speaker 1: Churchill believed that he heard voices and he would obey
- 25:27Speaker 1: what those voices told him to do when he was
- 25:29Speaker 1: convinced on several occasions that it had saved his life.
- 25:33Speaker 1: And it's a very it's a very strange kind of
- 25:35Speaker 1: HALLOWEENI anecdote to add their uh. He would hear the
- 25:40Speaker 1: voices telling him in the sort of a bicameral mind thing,
- 25:42Speaker 1: almost sit here, do this, scoot over here, and followed
- 25:47Speaker 1: it without question. I would call that intuition, but that's
- 25:52Speaker 1: just me. He was very specific that it was a
- 25:55Speaker 1: golden voice that he would hear. Interesting. I wonder if
- 25:58Speaker 1: it told him to keep drinking. Probably did. And I
- 26:01Speaker 1: wonder if it plays into um Gary Oldman's depiction of
- 26:05Speaker 1: him in this upcoming film Churchill, which we will have
- 26:08Speaker 1: to go see. Yes, we can only hope. We are
- 26:11Speaker 1: off today to fanboy a little bit about the flawed
- 26:16Speaker 1: but amazing historical figure known as Winston Churchill, who famously
- 26:22Speaker 1: and perhaps unnoyingly to himself avoided death by chocolate. Oh,
- 26:28Speaker 1: I was holding on to that reference for a while.
- 26:30Speaker 1: It's good. I think there's like a that's like a
- 26:31Speaker 1: fancy like T G I Friday's style. Uh, you know,
- 26:35Speaker 1: molten lava chocolate cake. I think because that's death by chocolate.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Absolutely that exists as a thing. Yeah, what's your favorite
- 26:42Speaker 1: delicious treat? Um, explosive or otherwise? Write us that ridiculous
- 26:46Speaker 1: at how stuff works and let us know. You can
- 26:47Speaker 1: also find this on Facebook, on Instagram. Still working on
- 26:51Speaker 1: that vision board for Pinterest. It will come one day, um,
- 26:54Speaker 1: but not today, my friends, and we hope you join
- 26:58Speaker 1: us on another day for another installment of ridiculous history.
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