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Patriots Unfiltered 10/9: Maye Day, Texans Preview, Practice Report · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: The World's a vaginal podcast. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: it was. It was a jail break up. The a
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  Speaker 3: gaps like that, having.
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  Speaker 4: Probably more geared to Evan, because I know you watched
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  Speaker 4: the film, Mike, I did grind it again yesterday? Did
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  Speaker 4: you grind it again? I'll open it to you. Good
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  Speaker 4: for you.
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  Speaker 3: Now, did you get announced when you walked into the arena?
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  Speaker 1: No bill back Champion Mike dassaults.
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  Speaker 4: The thing that you've been most impressed about with Brissette
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  Speaker 4: through the Five Gays, toughness, right, So that's perfect. Finally
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  Speaker 4: I asked her question and he got it right.
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  Speaker 1: I always get scared when you asked me a question like
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  Speaker 1: what road are you trying to.
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  Speaker 3: Walk me down?
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  Speaker 1: Paul, I'm not going to Mount.
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  Speaker 4: Cooks with you bring high comedy generally, Paul. You know,
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  Speaker 4: like when you insist that Christian Ellis didn't interfere with
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  Speaker 4: that guy.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the ball was whizzing by. I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was well timed.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's like eight yards.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't have to tackle.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here
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  Speaker 3: at Gillette Stadium, and never a dull moment.
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  Speaker 4: Hupaul to busy Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: Busy Wednesday. Uh, we're gonna talk all about it. Of course.
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  Speaker 3: The main headline is Evan's not here. No, I'm only kidding.
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  Speaker 3: The main headline is Drake may Era has begun.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna bow to you, mister Curtis.
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  Speaker 3: He listen to Blind Squirrel, Blind Squarel finds a nut
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  Speaker 3: every Sunday postgame.
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  Speaker 4: And then yesterday for PU you were on this. You
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  Speaker 4: thought that all the signs were coming. Obviously we all
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  Speaker 4: knew it was coming sooner or later, but you nailed
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  Speaker 4: when it was coming. I thought it would be another week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well listen, I thought it was gonna be week one,
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  Speaker 3: So I'm off by six weeks.
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  Speaker 4: I was hoping for a week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, listen, I'm excited, anxious, nervous. I
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  Speaker 3: can only imagine how he must feel. I can only
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  Speaker 3: imagine how the coaches must feel.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, how you can't feel excitement at least. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about nervous or anything like that. But
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  Speaker 4: you took a guy third. Overall, you're gonna get a
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  Speaker 4: chance to watch him play for the first time. That's exciting.
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  Speaker 3: No, it is exciting, But like I said, there is
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  Speaker 3: there is some to me, some anxiousness and nervousness to it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know how he's gonna play, you don't know
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  Speaker 3: how the line's gonna perform, you know. So there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of unknowns here. But I think it's the right time. Like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if I thought week one was the right time,
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  Speaker 3: then I certainly think this is the right time. I
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  Speaker 3: know that everybody's out there, Oh, how can they do this?
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  Speaker 3: It's a Texans and blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: Talking with Mike about it, It's like for about two
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  Speaker 4: at least two or three weeks, it's been like what
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  Speaker 4: are they waiting for? Like, you know, let's go Finally
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna he's gonna play, not now, and then he
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  Speaker 4: gets named the starter. Everybody's like, what are they doing?
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  Speaker 3: I thought they had a plan? Well, and that's what
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  Speaker 3: you bring up the plan, you know, could the plan
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  Speaker 3: have simply been we're gonna you know, develop as much
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  Speaker 3: we can. When we think he's ready, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: put him in and maybe, you know, then the plan
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  Speaker 3: hits the fact that this offense just looks abysmal, and
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  Speaker 3: Gerard finally said after the Dolphins game, I mean, I've
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  Speaker 3: seen enough. Put him in. I mean it could be
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  Speaker 3: that simple. Everyone's looking for all this nefarious stuff like
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  Speaker 3: you know, oh marketing called down and said we have
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  Speaker 3: to sell more, you know, like it's it's like like
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  Speaker 3: it could be just simply they were waiting for when
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  Speaker 3: he's ready, you know, and Gerard finally had seen enough
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  Speaker 3: and just said, okay, let's put him in. This offense
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  Speaker 3: is abysmal. It can't be any worse the.
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  Speaker 4: Offense.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just get him in.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what makes sense when you go in. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's like, are you going to say, well, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to start in week six? Like we all know
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  Speaker 1: how quickly this league changes, and right, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: think we said it before the season started, where it
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  Speaker 1: was like, all right, everything's great right now, like we
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  Speaker 1: girawed Ellie, Well, no one's had any kind of tough
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  Speaker 1: times or controversies or anything. This was all the fresh
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  Speaker 1: new staff, and you know, all of a sudden, here
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  Speaker 1: we are five weeks later, and you know, one of
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  Speaker 1: the questions in the press commerce we just came from
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  Speaker 1: with Gerar was like, you know, was this the plan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I would assume that the plan was
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  Speaker 1: to be a little flexible, like we're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever the plan was, it had to be open ended. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: let's look at the other side. What if the Patriots
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  Speaker 3: were six and oh now or five and oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and Jacoby Brissette, that's.
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  Speaker 1: The plan I gotta put them in right now.
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  Speaker 3: The plan, the plan has to be flexible.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I love the fred optimism. They've played five games.
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  Speaker 4: What if they were.
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  Speaker 3: But like, you get my point absolutely. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: was talking to somebody today. You're you're building a house
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  Speaker 3: and or renovating your house, and you have a plan
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  Speaker 3: for when it's going to be finished, and you tear
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  Speaker 3: down a wall there's asbestos. Well, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: the plan has changed. Right now, I'm in you know,
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  Speaker 3: like that turned to a darkness, right, Like you know
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, of course it has to be
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  Speaker 3: open end. You're talking about human beings, not chess pieces.
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  Speaker 4: And I think you know, like and a lot of these.
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  Speaker 3: You know Bobo's out there who thinks that you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're general managers? Uh, you know which if they were
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  Speaker 3: so good at it, I don't know why they're doing
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  Speaker 3: what they're doing the media and they're not they're making
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  Speaker 3: the money being a general manager. Like you're dealing with humans,
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  Speaker 3: you're not dealing with chess. Piece.
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  Speaker 4: I agree, and I think it's really as simple. And
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  Speaker 4: there's a couple of things that we said yesterday and
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  Speaker 4: I still agree with. But like it, to me, this
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  Speaker 4: was all about when Drake May was ready, so like
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  Speaker 4: short of being five and zero or something like that,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't really matter what, you know, the fact that
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  Speaker 4: the offense was bad to me doesn't really accelerated in
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  Speaker 4: my mind. And only they know the answer to that,
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  Speaker 4: the true, honest answer. Drod Mayo, Alex van Pelt, all
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  Speaker 4: the offensive staff that Mao said he met with, they
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  Speaker 4: were all on board. Elliott Wolf. They're the only ones
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  Speaker 4: that know, honest, honestly, how they feel. I feel like
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  Speaker 4: they feel that May is ready and even if the.
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  Speaker 3: Office like he's ready enough.
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  Speaker 4: I heard a lot of people and including Zoe on
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  Speaker 4: the on the call went before the polk touchdown go
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  Speaker 4: to overturned Perssette may have just saved his job. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think so. I don't think so. Like if that's
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  Speaker 4: a touchdown and they were this close to making the move,
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  Speaker 4: I think the move would have been made anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I do too.
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  Speaker 4: I do too, And you know ready I can tell
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  Speaker 4: you no, no, you and you point that out.
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  Speaker 1: I think now that we have this eye line, you
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  Speaker 1: sometimes catch me. But no, I just think the sustainability
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  Speaker 1: thing from last week, when Mayo said.
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  Speaker 4: That Fred was all over it, that was Fred's Fred
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  Speaker 4: took that out of the press conference. I gave him
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  Speaker 4: credit for that. Last week. He thought I was mocking him,
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  Speaker 4: and I really wasn't. I've used it several times since
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  Speaker 4: to to sort of indicate this I think was coming.
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  Speaker 4: And then Fred was even stronger in the postgame show Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: I gave him a little bow because he nailed it.
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  Speaker 4: On Sunday. He said he said this was the week
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  Speaker 4: it was going to happen. And I did the one
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  Speaker 4: thing that I keep pushing back on and I keep
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  Speaker 4: saying the same thing. You want to be patient, that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: You want to start him week one, that's fine. The
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  Speaker 4: only thing I completely rejected as out of hand is
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  Speaker 4: you can't play him against this defense? Yeah, or that defense?
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  Speaker 4: Or why didn't they play against my Like.
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  Speaker 3: The weather's not going to be good that weekend. We
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  Speaker 3: can't do that week Why is it? You know?
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  Speaker 4: First of all, the NFL is hard, yeah, right, so
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  Speaker 4: the so there's there's tough there's tough games, you know,
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  Speaker 4: And I understand Miami's defense in Jacksonville's defense, neither one
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  Speaker 4: of them is what you would consider a great defense.
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  Speaker 4: Houston's is it's pretty it's pretty good. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if it's great. It's pretty good, right, So what are
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  Speaker 4: we gonna do, just like pick and choose? Well, this
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  Speaker 4: team's not any this isn't college. We can't play him
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  Speaker 4: on homecoming against the one double A team. We don't
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  Speaker 4: have that luxury, right, So to me, it's when you
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  Speaker 4: think he's ready, you play him. Like, So, if he
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  Speaker 4: had beaten Miami me last week, and then things didn't
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  Speaker 4: go well against Houston because Houston's a better team this week,
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  Speaker 4: would you feel better or worse? I feel I feel
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  Speaker 4: exactly the same.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'd feel better that they had started the process
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  Speaker 3: a week early. Oh, okay, all right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean just in terms of his performance, Like let's
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  Speaker 4: let's just say for argument's sake, he beat Miami, lost
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  Speaker 4: to Houston, and now they're gonna do it this way
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  Speaker 4: and they're gonna lose to Houston and beat Jacksonville. Like
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  Speaker 4: just hypothetically, what's the difference?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Who cares? Like his first game didn't go so well, So,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, this guy is falling. Right, That's the
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  Speaker 4: only part of this the criticism, I don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: If you and if you're worried about him, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: getting you know, extreme pressure from Houston, it would happen
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  Speaker 3: whether you if you start him in Miami, He's gonna
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  Speaker 3: still get extreme pressure in Houston.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's my point. Nothing changes, nothing changes. Oh, he'd
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  Speaker 4: be better because it would.
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  Speaker 3: Be Listen, we can say he's as ready as he
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  Speaker 3: can be, but probably and I don't even the number
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  Speaker 3: is above fifty percent of things he's not going to
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  Speaker 3: be ready for until he sees them the first some.
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  Speaker 4: Of the things he said too, We got a chance
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  Speaker 4: to listen how you were there, and I'm curious to
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  Speaker 4: get you, curious to get your thoughts on it. But
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  Speaker 4: some of the comments he made about wanting to make sure,
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  Speaker 4: you know, kept his feet, didn't escape the pocket, two
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  Speaker 4: point on time, staying on time, not looking for off
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  Speaker 4: platform stuff, just playing football and let that happen, if
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  Speaker 4: it happens. But I think, you know, he's thinking about
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  Speaker 4: the process, like making sure he's running the office here.
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  Speaker 3: He's gonna look bad at times. I can guarantee it,
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  Speaker 3: for sure, I can guarantee it. But like I said,
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  Speaker 3: most of what he's going to see out there, he's
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  Speaker 3: never experienced before at that speed, and it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be the first time. But he's going to get it
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  Speaker 3: under his belt and he's going to build on it.
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  Speaker 3: And if he has a horrible game against the Texans,
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  Speaker 3: then I hope they go back in the film room
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  Speaker 3: and they look at it constructively and here's what you
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  Speaker 3: could have done better, here's what you need to improve on,
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  Speaker 3: and then we go to Jacksonville. And that's the process.
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  Speaker 3: That's the process. It's not the end of the world
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  Speaker 3: if he looks like if he looks terrible again in
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  Speaker 3: this game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking back to you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to compare to Tom Brady, but Tom
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  Speaker 1: Brady's first start was against the Colts, right and Peyton
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  Speaker 1: Manning C. J. Stroud in the Texan's probably gonna be
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  Speaker 1: around for a while. And if you want to be
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  Speaker 1: an AFC team, and I'm not saying that, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is a proving ground kind of thing, but you're
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  Speaker 1: getting him to face a team that down the road,
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  Speaker 1: you'd love to say, this is a team you might
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  Speaker 1: have to see in the playoffs. This is you know,
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  Speaker 1: Demico Ryans, this defense that he's running right now, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get a little taste of it right now. So
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of get a little
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  Speaker 1: applying too, like and I know it's a long ways
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  Speaker 1: out and you're you know, projecting positively, but this is
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  Speaker 1: a good team.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't that the idea? Like to think, like, Okay, we
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  Speaker 4: have a third overall pick. We want this guy to
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  Speaker 4: be our franchise quarterback. It's not going to hurt him
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  Speaker 4: to get some experience against a team that very well
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  Speaker 4: could be a part of the AFC picture for the
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  Speaker 4: next five years.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: Like what's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: What's wrong?
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  Speaker 3: What's wrong with it? And you know the whole thing
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  Speaker 3: about you know, he gives us the best chance to win.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even care about that. I know Gerard said
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  Speaker 3: that and that's why he's in. And you know you
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  Speaker 3: kind of have to say that because it's a meritocracy
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  Speaker 3: and you know, you put the players in that gives
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  Speaker 3: you the But like whether they win or lose, like
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  Speaker 3: right now, to me, is irrelevant. It's how he plays
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  Speaker 3: and how the team plays around him. That's what I'm
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  Speaker 3: focused on. I'm not it'd be great if they win.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know what, we have all kinds of things
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  Speaker 4: that we do content wise. We need a lipstick camera
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  Speaker 4: on Fred Sunday. Fred's gonna ride the roller coaster on Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a mess. I'm probably gonna be a mess.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, i gotta be.
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  Speaker 3: Like, my son's out there and I'm like watching him play.
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  Speaker 1: I felt I felt similarly listening to him talk, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, he came out and it's just like, oh God,
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  Speaker 1: please let this be the guy. You know, Like that
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  Speaker 1: was just the feeling of he's a good kid. You
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  Speaker 1: can he commands the room. He's got a presence about him.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's just extremely likable. And you know, Jerrod
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  Speaker 1: talked about all the f like telling he has and
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  Speaker 1: I just think, I mean, we were pulling from act two,
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  Speaker 1: like I was pulling from act two.
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  Speaker 4: But about Jacoby Brissett, like you you watched him, he
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  Speaker 4: is like and I call them kids because there's so
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  Speaker 4: much younger than me. Like he's a good kid too,
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  Speaker 4: Like you could tell there's a difference with some of
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  Speaker 4: these guys. You can just tell, Like you there are
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  Speaker 4: people Bersett may there are people you wanted to root for.
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  Speaker 4: You could just you could just kind of feel it, right,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Their team guys, they they're they're nice guys. You know,
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  Speaker 3: not so much. Well, the people got rubbed the wrong
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  Speaker 3: way with him right from the start. I wasn't one
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  Speaker 3: of them because I was looking through rose colored glasses.
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  Speaker 3: I'll admit I wanted to only see the best in him.
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  Speaker 3: But like people said right from the start, like he
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  Speaker 3: was a little abrasive and a little bit you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that you know, that's not why you know,
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  Speaker 4: if he played good quarterback, you know, like, right, I
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  Speaker 4: don't like him, but recognize that he's a great quarterback. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, but if Jones panned out, I would.
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  Speaker 3: I doubt Aaron Rodgers. I doubt Aaron Rodgers was like
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  Speaker 3: that the first year he is with the Packers, sitting
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  Speaker 3: on the bench with five you know, knowing.
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  Speaker 1: Him, maybe he was I could do that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was probably telling them, right, let me show
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  Speaker 4: let me, let me show you.
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  Speaker 3: What you So that's that's the big news today. You're
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  Speaker 3: the news that broke today. Jabrill Peppers put on the
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  Speaker 3: commissioner's exemp list.
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  Speaker 4: So it's good, which is really good for the team
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  Speaker 4: because now it just gives you some time. You know, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he can't he can't practice, he can't play.
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  Speaker 3: It takes it out of your hands and now we'll
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  Speaker 3: let the process take its course.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you I mean, I give him credit for
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  Speaker 1: coming out and leading with that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean leading with that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's here really to talk about Drake Bay.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think for Gerard to come out
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  Speaker 1: strong against you know, domestic violence, I have daughters, all
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  Speaker 1: those kind of things that he he led with, I
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  Speaker 1: thought it sent a good message.
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  Speaker 4: And he also said that he Peppers is not expected
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  Speaker 4: to be in the building in the near I think
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  Speaker 4: is the term he used was near term. Yeah, yeah, right,
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  Speaker 4: I get that, right.
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  Speaker 1: Your future, well.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see, you know, this process. So so that's that's
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  Speaker 3: behind this in terms of like how it affects the
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  Speaker 3: team in the field. Obviously it's a negative. You've lost Dugger.
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  Speaker 3: Now you've lost Peppers in this once.
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  Speaker 4: Probably Dougger can do Maybe Dougger when Evan comes back
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  Speaker 4: from practice, we'll see if Duggar or I was able
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  Speaker 4: to do anything today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a loss on the field with Peppers,
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  Speaker 1: but when with Mapu coming back, and you know last
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  Speaker 1: week with del pattis getting a little bit of it.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I know, and you know, like Ale to make so
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: you can look at it that way, but it's the
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: domino effect. You know, the two best guys are out,
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: so yes, people need to step up, but they weren't
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: as good as those two guys, and so every time
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: somebody in front goes out, you get a little bit less.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: And you got to get Dougger back, You got to
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: get Thugger backets. I mean, as much as I was
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: impressed with Mapu's workload, like he is the guy that
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: you need out there, so hopefully he's out there when
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: when Evan comes.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: There with the lost you know, big test for Brian
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: Belichick to uh yeah, you know, get these guys coached
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: up and yeah.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hawkins too. I mean, you know they have some
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: depth there. This is you know, as much as Peppers
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: was a captain and an impact player, you know, I
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: think that they at least have some pieces where it's
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: not Yeah, it went right to del Paddick, but had
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: to go right to the undrafted rookiees.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: And I did think that was Hawkins' best game, you know.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: I thought he made a number of sure tackles that
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: prevented big plays. Yeah, big hit, like he was kind
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: of like, you know, the safety, the last line of defense,
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: and he was sure tackle.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: I think he was some of those run hust the
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: running back. Oh yeah, yeah, he came flying over hard
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: hard lick.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: That wasn't one of the ones I was talking about because.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: So the the was Paul Curse hit Houston a little bit.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: We captains.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: No, we got some news out there with wide receiver
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: isn't going to be playing with the hamstring.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sixty seven yard touchdown and didn't play another play
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: in that game for Nigo Collins, So that's a plus. Yeah,
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: he's by far their their best receiver and he's been
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: probably one of the best five receivers in football so far. Yeah,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: but like knocking on the door six hundred yards already.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Stefan Diggs.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Diggs has been a problem, but they're gonna need
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: something out of Tank Dell. He's getting quiet pointing right.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I've been reading a little bit that that they've been
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know we got hurt last year, but
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: that he hasn't really done much coming back off.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: He only has thirteen catches so far.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Do you have anyone with thirteen catches?
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: All right, See, that's just what happened.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no, no, what happens dark to dark to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: So sorry, I'm in a good place, so I gotta admit, like,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: just like just seeing Drake up there, I'm like, all right,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Like I feel a little refreshed after the last week
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: we've had. It's good to just turn the page. Something new,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: something new to watch this weekend for the game. I'm excited.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: My inlaws are going to go to their first NFL
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: game this weekend, so I'm.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: My niece is going. She's got a big group of people.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I got twelve tickets for my niece and she gets
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: to see Drake May's debut.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: So I thought about that too, this will make Paul
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: uh gafa. But Drake was like, oh, you know, the
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: throwback uniforms, the home crowd, best fans, and the cut
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: you know in the league. So he was saying all
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the right things. Yeah, he's saying the right things. I
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like I said, I'm gonna be.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Such a goofball. He's gotta be good.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Now, I mean to friend's point, like I kind of assume,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: like this is what my impression is, that he's gonna
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: make two or three maybe one, but two or three
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: hopefully like whoa plays that maybe aren't even completed, but
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: he'll just huck.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: It down the field.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Then there's gonna be probably five or six plays. You're like, Drake,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: don't die, you know, like he's gonna get smoked because
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: he doesn't see something coming. Or but I'm just hoping
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: that we see a little bit of what he talked about,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: playing on time, getting the ball out quick, understand, you know,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: just seeing the process. Like we know he can throw
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the ball down the field, you know, and we know
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be mistakes and things he misses, and de
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Miko Ryans will take advantage of some things and confuse
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: him and put some new things that they haven't shown
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: on tape. But you know, is there enough plays? Are
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: there enough plays that you say he's playing on time's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: he understands what they're trying to do, He's getting the
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: ball to the right guy at the right time. You know.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I just that's what I want to see out of him.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: And I don't know that we will, like, I know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: we'll see probably a couple big throws, and you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: we'll definitely see a couple like, oh crap, he just
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: got decked. But can he have those, you know, good
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: execution plays and complete some passes.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: So we don't know what we'll see. Does Houston know
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: what they'll see? And I asked that because Devin mccordy
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: tweeted out yesterday, you know, why couldn't they wait? Why
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: do they have to tell the Texas? What do you
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: think about that?
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I think it's the dumbest thing I heard yesterday. Honestly,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I have no offense to Devin because I didn't just
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: hear from Devon. There are a couple of people are like,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: why didn't they wait? Well, for first of all, how
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: could they wait? Like everyone's gonna know, like they're gonna
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: go out there and see raps like then they have
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: to do all this other subster views and like, is
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Houston really gonna be like, oh my god, it's Drake May.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: What a rookie has never played a game? What are
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: we gonna do? Like, I don't think it's that big
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: of a switch going from you know, Jacob from a
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: defensive standpoint. If I'm Demico, Ryan's like, we're just gonna
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: do what we do. These guys can't really block. We're
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: gonna attack no matter who.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: The quarterback is.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's no I know that. And I had
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: you know, a couple of people were like me today.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: One in particular, was having some fun with me. He's like, oh,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: just Devin. Not nobody's talking about either, And I'm like, no,
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: well can't we disagree like without it being like, you know,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: one guy doesn't know what he's talking about and another guy,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: you know is I just don't think it's really done
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: that way with quarterbacks. I think in general terms, quarterback,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: when you make a quarter you know, like when and
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: I know this is Carolina, every's gonna say, well, that's
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: why they shuck. You know, Carolina didn't say, oh, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: don't know it could be Bryce Young this week or
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Randy Dalton. No, they made him switch. Yeah, it's nice
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: you let everybody know.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like you're, you know, starting a safety.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: That's different.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Quarterback. You know you're gonna have to now devote the
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: entire week in practice to this guy. You got fifty
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: three guys, you got coaches, you got assistants. The news
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: is going to get out there. If I'm a coach,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I'd rather have the news come from me than from
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: somebody else and then have it all speculation all week.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Just just get it over with, you know.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: And I just I think back Belichick was as secretive
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: about absolutely every element of his football team as you
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: could be, and he didn't do it that way either.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: He generally announced his quarterback.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: What's the most famous one? Super Bowl Week? He announced
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Brady's gonna be the quarterback.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah. He could have waited, he could have, But that one,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: to me, was more for his team, Like there is
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: no there's no debate here.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: It's Tom Well and that's what he's doing too. It's
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: for his No.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: No, I agree, I'm agreeing with you, bro. Bro, We're
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: all on the same side.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Ye.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: No, But I just think It's one thing to say
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: at the Super Bowl that Tom Brady's ankle is okay
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: and he's gonna play. He did it with Cam Newton.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Every week he said, no, Cam's the quarterback every week
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: because every week he was asked. In twenty twenty, the
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: offense was every bit as bad as it's been right now,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: and every week, no, no, no, Cam's the quarterback. Cam's the
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: starting quarterback, right not Jared's did. It's going to be Cam?
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: He did it. That was Belichick, who wouldn't tell you anything,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: you know, because for fear that it was given the
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: opponent an advantage.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: And maybe one of our fans who knows. But I
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: don't know of a situation where you know, a team
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: went from you know, a a bench you know, a
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: backup to now their new starting quarterback or reverse, you know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the established starting quarterback is now being benched and that
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: was a game day decision. Like Ben McAdoo, for example,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I think when he benched, he announced that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure that people can come up with an example.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: That's why, like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I always
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: use the words no one, you know, like absolutes and
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: someone always I don't mean that it's never happened in
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: the history of football. I'm sure it has and I
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: just don't remember it, but not not exactly the same example.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: But Belichick told the story recently on one of his
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: shows about Terrell Owens in Super Bowl thirty nine, and
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Bill talked about, I'm talking to my doctor on the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: team and he's saying, like, there's no way this guy's
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to play, and then he said they
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: got out there and you guys remember what he did
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: in that game, And it was like Belichick said, we
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: had to redo our whole game plan like that, Like
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: that's an example, but it's not the quarterback, you know,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: but an example of all of a sudden the guy
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: is that you weren't expecting a superstar.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: But that's also a different thing. That's an injury. And
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I like Bill was very secretive with injuries, and I
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: can you know, I didn't agree with it, but I
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: could completely understand that you're you're leaving the other team
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: more to prepare for, like you're only preparing for one quarterback.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: You know, it's either gonna be Brissett or it's gonna
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: be May Like it's the offense is all you know.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: It's not like, right, Lamar Jackson's playing on Sunday or
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady's playing, which is two entirely different, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: game plans, right, that's my You know, we all know
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: that May brings more athleticism to the table than Bresett.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: But he's gonna run the same offense that you've seen
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: the five. Hopefully better, but he's gonna run the same offense.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Now, there was that game, uh, the Wildcat game against
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Miami where Miami came in and threw a loop. You know,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: they threw a curve ball to the Patriots. The Patriots
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: were not prepared with.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: The game plan. Right that Pennington was the quarterback, Right,
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: that was a game plan.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: You know, Sephanie was running out wide, and Ricky Williams
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and what was Ronnie Brown?
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Ronnie Brown had running all over. Ronnie Brown had five touchdowns,
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: four rushing touchdowns, and he threw one to death. Was unbelievable.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: We were just completely stunned in the press.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: It reminded me of that Alabama Vanderbilt game. They just
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: couldn't stop it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Because and I remember correctly, Brady got his towards a
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: cl They went and beat the Jets the next week
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: and then they came back for that was that week three,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I think, and that was around I want to say
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: about that, It's about right. He kind of felt Miami
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: was brutally bad in the first games and the Patriots
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: couldn't like stop it.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: They couldn't figure it out.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And they had such an experienced defense too.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: It was so frustrating they would.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Have been able to get it. Like you must have
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: thought after that Jets game, like, no, Brady, like we're
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: still gonna be competitive, and then all of a sudden,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: like the defense gets exposed like that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Like that was like thirty eight to thirteen or something
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: like that. That game was not.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna have to leave early today.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: I'm just warning everyone.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just glad you're here to Startford. I was worried.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: We got so much going on today.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure I'm okay with you leaving early.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I finally a big show.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: It's a big day.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to leave early.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Some people were calling for an emergency podcast last we.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I told them the emergency podcast will be at
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: noon tomorrow.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but now you'll leave it. I can't do it
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: without our fearless leaders.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Let's let's get to the listeners, and Evan will be
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: by at some point.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Right, he's in the locker right now that they're gonna Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: So usually the last half hour or so on Wednesdays,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: we should.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: By the way, Uh, Matt, did you get the new
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: song the locker?
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: Uh?
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Back from practice? Locker room song?
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: You guys can hear me? Oh gee, we got a
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: new song.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't play it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just teasing it. Okay, boy, I'm teasing it.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Okay, feedback now.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's go to the TPX outline. Chris
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: is and California.
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: What's up, Chris, Chris, Yes, hey, yes, this is Patriotson
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: filter Chris.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's it for Chris.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I'm I mean like, you got to be ready, come on,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: we could hear yeah, no, you got to be ready.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: What I caught I of calling out Mike as a
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: subject on an email, and I feel like I may
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: want to maybe want to hear it. Maybe I don't.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Backup like that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I know what's that calling out Mike? I just see
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: an email there with a title not down one down
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to there you go, Tony. Tony's calling me out?
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Want me to read it. He says. I emailed a
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago to say my expectations for the
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: season were low, but I did expect me to be
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: playing and learning. Mike responded, and I'm getting there, but
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: not until November, and Fred responded with things about playing
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: him early in money, which I don't understand. So my
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: question is, what has changed so much in the seven
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: days since I email held in to make such a
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: shift in Mike and Fred's views. Views haven't changed. I
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: wanted to play Week one.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I did too, but you thought he would play Week one.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: That's what yeah, I think For me, it was the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: last three games of the same exact watching the same
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: thing over and over again. And I mean, I said
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: November was when I would start to get the itch,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: but the itch came early with watching those games like
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: unfold the way they did. It just didn't feel like
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: it was going to get better at that point, especially
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: with this last game.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, well, and that's what I'm hoping happened,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: is Girodd said, Listen, we're in mud here. It's just
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: not going to get better. He's ready enough. Put him in,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: you know. I'm hoping that's how it went down.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I think that's quite reasonable.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Sounds about right.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Let's see everyone's emailing in about Drake May as as expected.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Guy writes in that's his name.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Guys, not just a guy.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Drake May is a talent. But my prediction May will
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: be sacked seven to eight times a game, if not more,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: and will be seriously injured in the next five weeks.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Well Brissette wasn't anyway, Teams are gonna blitz him constantly.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: Patriots are giving up ten to fifteen years of a
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: franchise quarterback for a couple more wins this year.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, So why a lot of what he says. I
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: do expect May to get sacked more than Brissette was,
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: because I think young quarterbacks get sacked a lot. But
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: why is that sacrificing ten or fifteen years, like by
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: playing a couple of extra games, because like again, I
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: will get more down. This is one I want someone
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to This is a project. And I know, like Boston,
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: you know the guy that on Twitter, Boston Sports Info,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: who is phenomenal with this stuff. And I don't know
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: if he listens to our shows or not. I'd like
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: an example of a young quarterback who played who you
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: deemed played too soon, who suffered a career ending injury.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I'd like someone to give me that, Like I'm not
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: talking about like Anthony Richardson hurt himself and yeah, right back,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: wasn't like a career ending injury, right, you know, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: the whole, like you guys know this, I'm a broken record,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: like the whole like ruined, he got ruined, he played
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: too early, he got ruined. And you know there's there's
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: various guys that get thrown out there. So like Mac Jones,
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: let's keep it. It's close something that we're all familiar with. Right,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: So Mac Jones played as a rookie in twenty twenty one,
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: and by twenty twenty four he was a Jacksonville Jaguar. Okay,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I think they did a lot of things to hurt him.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I'm not arguing that. But what did they do to
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: hurt him that involved playing him too early?
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: What?
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: What did you think that he was in twenty twenty one?
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I think they stunted his growth in twenty one by
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: coddling him on the field.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: But what do you think what do you think that
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: he like when he was playing in twenty one? I
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: think most Patriots fans would say, it's a pretty good year,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: made the playoffs, won ten games. He you know, stood
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: firm in the pocket, played played, you know, not an
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: instrumental role in a lot of wins. But he was
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: okay as a rookie. People were saying they got the
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: best out of the fire, that rookie class. So it
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: all fell apart in year two. In year three for
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: a lot of reasons, Matt Patricia, you know, offensive line,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: you know, strife with the head coach, we all know
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: all the things. But what specifically about playing him too
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: soon led to the downfall of mac Jones's Patriots career, right,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: But yet that's that's gospel, yeah right. They played him
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: too soon, they ruined him when the best part about
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: him as a Patriot was that first part that was
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: the best we saw of mac Jones, was him playing
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: right away. Then the league adjusted to him and he
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: was no longer effective. Then they did some things that
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: didn't support him, and he was no longer unaffected.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's what it's more cautionary tale for. It's
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: in year two, do you support the quarterback? You give him,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you know, those take to the next level kind of
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: pieces and give him, you know, not change his offense
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: up on him, trying to personally.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Think that he's not that good. But I'm gonna I'm
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: gonna make the argument for him and say he was
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: very good and he would have been very good for
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: years to come if they didn't screw him up. But
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: it had nothing to screw him up. Part had nothing
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: to do with playing too soon.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Right, That was the right, Right, that was the good part.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: That's you know, like the whole like chicken little thing,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: like you can't play him like Mike Lombardi. By the
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: way he's he's gotta getting worse and worse, and he's
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: getting worse and worse, like by the week. You'd be
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: crazy to play be crazy to play him like you
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: it'd be insane. I think he called it insane if
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: you play if you decided to put him in. This
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: was like four days ago, so and then he starts
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: rattling our teams, you know, like you got to have
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: an offensive line, you got to protect the you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: why do you think Jared Goff is successful in Detroit?
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: And Okay, yeah, he's got a great offensive line. And
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: I do think Jared Goff is one of those guys
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: that as long as you protect him, he's gonna be
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: really good. You don't protect him, he can't do it. Yeah, Okay,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: then he goes. Well, look what's happened into Cincinnati now
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: because they can't protect him. They should have taken as
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: good as great as Jamar Chase is. They should have
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: taken Penny Seol. They'd have a left tackle, Hall of
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Fame left tackle. They might have a Hall of Fame.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Receiver, like thirty five points a game, thank you, Fred Kirsh.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like they can't get they haven't been stopped the
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: last three weeks, right, the defense has gone to hell.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Everybody got healthy and now they're and they're all out.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: The defense has gone to hell, and they can't win games.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: But they lost forty one thirty eighth, right against a
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: good team. But this is like when these guys just
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: like they scream into the ether and people just buy
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: it like that has nothing to do with Cincinnati struggles.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Right now, Their offense is in gear, their defense has
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: fallen apart. Like, you can't play much better than Joe
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Burrow's played the last three games and they one and
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: two win those three games. Yep, But you know, gotta
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: have an offensive line.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Well, Lombardi seems like he's taking every shot he can
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Time, and then every time he's you know, I didn't
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: ever get into this.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: They're fun, they're nice.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're nice, you know, and I know like they
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: want to blame all their problems on Belichick, but like
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: like these little asides in the middle of his rants,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: please please at least with like like Bill right, if
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Bill's bitter, I could understand it. Bill has accomplished so much,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Like I could understand if he's bitter and maybe you know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: like has a sardonic side that he's sort of enjoying,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: you know, the shot and freuder like what's going on?
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I could get that. But it's the guy that won
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: six titles for the Patriots. What has Mike Lombardi ever
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: done other than drive the the like the uber to
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: pick up these these great people at the airport, like please.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Ron and Conway, New Hampshire. I don't have to say
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: too much as it's me time now. I just wanted
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: to ask one weird question regarding the decision. Supposedly, Mayo
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: said in his presser that he was disappointed that the
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: story broke before he told the team my question is,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: why the hell would Mayo have not told the team.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, if Mayo and the staff knew, why didn't
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: they tell the team sooner. I had felt for months
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: since the end of camp that Mayo wanted to start
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: May but got resistance from AVP and Wolf, and that
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: it was a power struggle between them. Also, what the
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: hell is with Arlovsky? He's being such a wine ass
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Orlofsky praises Williams and the other rookie quarterbacks, but now
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: it's such a problem with may I'd love to hear
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: your thoughts. Excited to see may So on the not
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: telling the team. You know, Wednesday I think was the
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: first time the team would all be in the buildings,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: so I think he was waiting for that, and I
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: think it is is disappointing that it got leaked out,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: and I don't know.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Who did it right. He could have talked to they're.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Not all in on Monday. Some are, but I don't
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: think they're all in, and there's certainly not all in
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: at the same time.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: They're not in on Tuesday, like Tuesday play Tuesday, they're in.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: He said that he spoke to u Brissett in May
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: on Tuesday right, and that's you know, then what did
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: he say, Like some of that was like supposition or
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: something like that.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I kind of I don't know, I miss some of
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: this because my recollection was like it was he was
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: okay with it just getting out, like he told the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: guys that needed to get out, and the guys weren't
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: here yesterday and I don't know this morning.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Script. Yeah, he told the team this morning that he
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: said specifically, but he talked to May and Brissette Tuesday
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: and then it got out and then it got out.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Right, So it could have been anyone leaking it. It
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: could have been could be no, it could have been
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Drake May telling a family member and a family member
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: telling somebody and then you know, like who knows how
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: it got out, but it's it is unfortunate to got out.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: And that's you know, one of the one of the
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: tough things about being a head coach is dealing with
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: And people have made a big deal because in training camp,
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: at the end of training camp after the Washington game,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Gerard was really adamant about telling the team before he
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: told the media. If you recall, yeah, so I think
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: that's why people saying well, why shift? But I don't
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: think this was the way Gerard wanted it to be. Yeah,
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: sort of emanated, disseminated, I should.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Say, yep, Brandon and Hickory North Carolina. Has there ever
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: been a team that, like five of the six elected
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: captains are no longer on the field.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Unreal.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: This season has just been a train wreck from the start,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: and it's nice to finally have something as a fan
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: to be excited for on Sunday. I'm pumped to get
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: to see Drake start, and I think it's a perfect matchup.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: We will see how he handles the pressure of going
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: up against another young, really good quarterback. Also, I think
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: the receivers may have an extra burst of energy this
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: week for Drake Pat's twenty seven Texans twenty four. Drake
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: leads the team to a walk off touchdown drive, Go
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Pats and loveless. If that happens, the shirt's coming off.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: The shirt is coming off of that for one game,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: For one game.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: You think it's ridiculous that they could win Sunday that way.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: That that's that's story, that's Hollywood, that's.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Hollywood, Like was it Hollywood that Brady? Well, I suppose
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: you could say it was like, you know that game
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: that Mike talked about, they won like forty one to thirteen.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what seems Hollywood is all the captains
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: dropping like flies. And that's and that already seems like
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: in a bad way.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: It's amazing. Who's left?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise wows man standing.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Imagine him like you're walking around, You're just like looking
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: around and see if ane's gonna fall on you at
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: any second.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Chris and Kentucky wants to know who's Drake going to
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: be most like Josh Allen, Herbert Mahones, Burrow or maybe
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: a Sam Darnold Baker Captain Kirk. Who do you think
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: he'll be most like?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Probably that Herbert Ish. I think I don't think he's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the freight train that Josh big enough.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not taking for the Josh.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: He's got the big arm like Herbert does.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: And yeah, I think that's probably. I mean, he's athletic
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: like Herbert is. Yeah, I kind of like that one. Yeah,
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: it's probably the closest.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I hate everything's got to be a comparison,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that's that's probably the good size.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: That's what we do.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Big arms.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh Chris in South Carolina says he's stuck at
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: work but can't wait for the drive home to listen
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: to your takes on the switch at quarterback. I just
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: want to say that I think Drake handled himself extremely
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: well during the beginning of the season, maturely and responsibly
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: waiting for his chance to get his career started. I
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: have a really good feeling about him as a player
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: and a person, and I think there's good things in
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: store for us over the next decade as we continue
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: to build and rally around him.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: I know that dude. I know Chris.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He's a writer back in the Bleacher
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Report days with myself as well, so for free work.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Now that you know him, I just recognize his name.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'd be curious as to what he like, what
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: specifically was he impressed with how Drake May handled himself
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: in the first five.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Weeks, Like he didn't say anything.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you think he should have been like
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: storming the best deal to tell Gerrod that he should
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: be starting, because nobody would do that standing there looking
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: cool on the third overall pick, I'm a rookie in
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: I'm going to wait my turn, right, I did I
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: did really like some of this as a complete aside
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: that question that we've gotten frequently about Drake May on
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: the sideline, his you know, where he is, his demeanor,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: why is he not listening to the coaches, blah blah
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah. He was asked directly that today and
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: he gave the exact answer that the four of us,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: you know, I'll include Evan, have given, you know, as
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: our thoughts as to why, you know, he likes the
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: vantage point of where he is. He's trying to get
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: behind the offense, behind the quarterback, reading the defense, reading
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: the safeties, sort of checking the coverage and all the
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: all the while he's listening to everything. So I thought
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: that was a yeah, right, exactly what we thought. And yeah,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: because that's that's what we've been saying, right, you know.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: I was glad to hear that. But yeah, he addressed.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: That as close as you can get to really actually
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: see in the defense.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: And Barton Poland, I got to say, starting May versus
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Houston may not be the smartest idea. However, as someone
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: who's going to his first NFL game next week in London,
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: I'm selfishly loving it. I really like Jacobe but my
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: first NFL experience being whatever that offense was in the
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: first five weeks wouldn't have been ideal. Even if the
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: offense doesn't look great initially with Drake Trevor Lawrence versus
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Drake may probably my two favorite quarterback prospects the last
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: five years. Looks absolutely great for me.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Nice we go.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Definitely some fans over there cited for sure.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely should be. That'd be great.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Are you, Fred, I've got a couple questions. Are you
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: gonna do anything over there? You're gonna do any? Meet
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Fred kirsch Well.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I will say that there'll be a party on Saturday
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: night at the Greenwood Pub in London. I'm not exactly
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: sure where in London it is, but I will be
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: the host. WHOA, I will be on stage hosting it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: You bring in the talks because no one else would
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: do it, really no, but I am going to be
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the person on stage doing it, so I'll be uh,
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I'll be uh running the program.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: I will say, my London is fun. Yeah, like you know,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: we got a chance to go to Germany too, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: you know, but in terms of just you know the experience,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: think of the Friday night in Germany on steroids. That
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: was London.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: That's fun London.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, our fans in London are great. They are and
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: they've been and they've been fans for a long time.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Big President. It's going to be a home game. I know.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: It's a road game for the Patriots, you know, technically,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: and Jacksonville's got that market. They're playing actually this week
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: in London too, but it's going to be like a
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: home game for the Papriots.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: The first year they played there, oh nine nine yeah, right.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Tampa, Yeah, played Tampa again. You know who I
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: think played quarterback that day for the Bucks, Josh Johnson,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: who I believe is still in the league. You might,
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: you might not still be in Laboy fifteen years.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, you gotta take a break. I gotta,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I gotta take off.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I can't believe you.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta take off.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: You guys take Deuce's creativity now because he's got a host,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: because I won't host.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna hijack the show.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to. I have to take off, So
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: I supposed to. That's my email. I don't want, you know,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: use your own email. So Paul Paul Evan, I mean
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Paul Deuce Evan will be here. Yeah, so they'll be
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: here until two o'clock.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Have no fear And obviously we're taking your reaction to
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Drake May. Give us a call, let us know what
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: you think and if you know what, we've been really positive,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: you know, in this show, and we're gonna continue to be.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: But you guys might not agree with the move, So
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: that you can let me know those opinions upon welcome
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: We'll call in.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I Orlowski just thinks it's a bad situation. I
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: don't think he has anything against Drake May. Let's address that.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: If if he was being put in the game, I
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: can understand why he would think that because he doesn't
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: have the tools that Drake May has.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and or Loss. He came out in the summer about.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Uh needed to sniff after that one.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I jumped in on that. But he had said in
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the summer about he was concerned about Drake May's footwork
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: how far he had to go.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: He's the anti Patriots Twitter guy. He shows clips of
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: plays that everybody is completely blanketed. Everybody else shows these
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: these plays where like evidently they've like superimposed the defensive
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: backs out of the off off the screen, like there's
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: nobody covering anybody for the Patriots on on the plays
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: that the Patriots Twitter Twitter likes to put out there.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: All right, Uh, Matt, let's do a quick break and uh,
• 42:56
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  Speaker 4: Gray, Just a thought on what your reaction was to
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: getting news when your first NFL started. How excited are
• 44:38
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• 44:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I think it's a great opportunity. Let
• 44:42
  Speaker 11: me drive of you know, getting your first start in
• 44:43
  Speaker 11: the NFL. So we excited to get out there with
• 44:45
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• 44:48
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• 44:50
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  Speaker 3: You just said the word opportunity.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: It is a big opportunity.
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: How much more comfortable are now?
• 44:58
  Speaker 10: Several weeks, don't see having watched and learned a little
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: bit about the system, take advantage of this opportunity, then
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: maybe he would have been earlier in the season.
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think.
• 45:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Now we're in week six, so you get I
• 45:11
  Speaker 11: had five games of sitting on the sideline hearing the
• 45:12
  Speaker 11: play calls, preparing for the game, prepared for a Thursday
• 45:16
  Speaker 11: night game, or preparing for a Sunday night or Sunday
• 45:18
  Speaker 11: afternoon game. So I feel like we've bounced a lot
• 45:21
  Speaker 11: of different things throughout the week and had to prepare
• 45:24
  Speaker 11: and just trying to tag along from Jacoby. I'm a
• 45:26
  Speaker 11: veteran this league who's does a great job of learning
• 45:30
  Speaker 11: so much from him and seeing how he goes about practice.
• 45:32
  Speaker 11: So that's been probably the best thing of watching Jacoby
• 45:35
  Speaker 11: and watching how he handles, you know, the whole nine yards,
• 45:37
  Speaker 11: whether it's preparing, handling teammates, handling, handling y'all, and just
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: he's been great and a great mentor you.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Had in the offense. Has changes movie before and or
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: the game playing coming off.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: The first Sunday.
• 45:52
  Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I think the biggest thing is just
• 45:56
  Speaker 11: just just me playing on time, playing rhythm and and
• 46:00
  Speaker 11: then trusting the guys around me. I think you know
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: the game plan that can change, you know. I think
• 46:04
  Speaker 11: obviously you got a break quarterback going out there. But
• 46:06
  Speaker 11: at the same time, you know what we're doing offense,
• 46:08
  Speaker 11: what we're doing offense, So not trying to give too
• 46:10
  Speaker 11: much hints, you know, towards game plan. We got a
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: gaming play Sunday, but uh, just looking forward to.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: It, like like these concepts or plays or things of
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: that name.
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that happens every week. You know, a VP comes
• 46:20
  Speaker 11: to us at the end of the week. We came
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: to Jacobe, you know, the first five weeks and what
• 46:24
  Speaker 11: do you like? And hey, you know this is my
• 46:26
  Speaker 11: favorite third down or my favorite drop back. So we
• 46:28
  Speaker 11: do that every week.
• 46:31
  Speaker 12: Think you are you have the capability of the last
• 46:34
  Speaker 12: SA plays well platinum plays bringing.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Down also be too.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: How do you balance that to start cooking against the.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: NFL game was different as we're very good.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how will you processed? Be careful?
• 46:53
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think early on just try to take take
• 46:55
  Speaker 11: it and gave me find completions. I think that's the
• 46:57
  Speaker 11: biggest biggest thing for your young quarterback going in there,
• 47:00
  Speaker 11: and then from there just don't try to hunt up
• 47:02
  Speaker 11: you know, off the platform or off off play off
• 47:06
  Speaker 11: schedule throws. I think just kind of feel it out
• 47:08
  Speaker 11: and just play football.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 11: I think the biggest thing sometimes is just you try
• 47:12
  Speaker 11: to get outside of pocket you don't need to, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 11: and little things like that. So just play within the
• 47:15
  Speaker 11: pocket and trust my feet and uh just should go
• 47:18
  Speaker 11: out there and play.
• 47:19
  Speaker 12: What do you say like you've thrown the most dangerous.
• 47:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think just just really is what comes with
• 47:27
  Speaker 11: you know, kind of learning you know the NFL quarterback
• 47:30
  Speaker 11: and uh kind of what comes with you're really the title,
• 47:32
  Speaker 11: you know, handling shoot leadership, learning from Tacobe what he's done.
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: He's a great leader guys, you know one you know,
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: biggest leaders on the team. How you know the.
• 47:40
  Speaker 11: Verbage of you know, calling the huddles. Just had you know,
• 47:43
  Speaker 11: first walk through and I feel pretty good with the
• 47:45
  Speaker 11: verbage there. So other than that, just uh, excited for
• 47:49
  Speaker 11: excite for these guys. I think it's opportunity to it's
• 47:51
  Speaker 11: a good football team to go out there and you know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 11: prooves people wrong.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: The conversation was.
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: Like twin you and Chapobe after you've got the news
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: and what.
• 47:58
  Speaker 11: The does the channel down in front of Kobe. You know,
• 48:01
  Speaker 11: he's the idea that you make, you know, ideal You've
• 48:03
  Speaker 11: got to be in the room with the quarterback.
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 48:05
  Speaker 11: I think the biggest thing is you hate it for
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: you hate it for him, you know, I think you
• 48:09
  Speaker 11: know Jacobe, you know, fought, fought his butt off, you know,
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: got up you know every time he's getting hit. And
• 48:15
  Speaker 11: not only that, it just kept kept that that mindset
• 48:17
  Speaker 11: of hey, it's gonna be the next play. You know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 11: got this drive coming. Just see him on the sideline
• 48:22
  Speaker 11: and uh, you know how it was the positive vibes.
• 48:25
  Speaker 11: So he kind of kept and brought to this team
• 48:26
  Speaker 11: and we'll still bring to this team. You know, he's
• 48:28
  Speaker 11: a great mentor great friend. And I was trying to
• 48:31
  Speaker 11: do everything I can to help him and I'm sure
• 48:34
  Speaker 11: to do the same.
• 48:35
  Speaker 12: Watching Jakobe in games, look at you on the sideline
• 48:39
  Speaker 12: while he's out there, it seems like off the times
• 48:42
  Speaker 12: your batage point just down the sideline, we'll be you
• 48:45
  Speaker 12: gaining for.
• 48:45
  Speaker 13: That point of view, and how did.
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: It match up what you were saying what you.
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: Saw one yeah, kind of down the side. You gotta
• 48:51
  Speaker 11: get a more view of the defensive structure, trying to
• 48:54
  Speaker 11: see techniques up front from the defensive line, trying to
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: see shafeties, trying to see of back end stuff, and
• 49:00
  Speaker 11: at the same time kind of get the back few
• 49:02
  Speaker 11: quarterbacks thinking. So that was I tried to do that
• 49:05
  Speaker 11: or or try to kind of stand behind Jacobey. I
• 49:07
  Speaker 11: think that was kind of kind of my mindset. He's
• 49:09
  Speaker 11: trying to get a feel of, you know, playing back
• 49:11
  Speaker 11: there behind him, what it'd be like, and you don't
• 49:13
  Speaker 11: get a great views as you do in practice and
• 49:15
  Speaker 11: standing right behind him, So just trying to reprocate that
• 49:18
  Speaker 11: and play play the game along the sideline made a
• 49:22
  Speaker 11: lot of some of the best quarterbacks in the league
• 49:24
  Speaker 11: on the scout team most wondering are there any specific
• 49:26
  Speaker 11: lessons you.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Were able to learn from, you know, emulating Burrow Rogers
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: or any of those guys.
• 49:31
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, uh, just the timing that they play
• 49:35
  Speaker 11: with in the routes. I think, you know, our our
• 49:37
  Speaker 11: defense coaches speak on that, kind of the rhythm and
• 49:39
  Speaker 11: the timing of you know, hey, this this ball throwing
• 49:41
  Speaker 11: before they're looking, and anticipation and you know, throwing guys open.
• 49:45
  Speaker 11: I think that's the biggest thing, and I've tried to
• 49:46
  Speaker 11: take a new Scout team, as you know, trying to
• 49:48
  Speaker 11: you know, throw guys open and maybe throw throw the
• 49:50
  Speaker 11: ball out. I may not have in my life before
• 49:53
  Speaker 11: if I see something, So I think that's the biggest thing.
• 49:55
  Speaker 11: And yeah, we've we've on Scout team. We've kind of
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: wrapped some some pretty good quarterbacks and some fun offenses
• 50:00
  Speaker 11: to to throw the football in on Scout. So, uh,
• 50:03
  Speaker 11: it's been it's been cool to see how similar the
• 50:05
  Speaker 11: offenses are and kind of some stuff that we have
• 50:07
  Speaker 11: and some stuff they do differently.
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: So it's been pretty pretty cool that you can only.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: Control where you can.
• 50:11
  Speaker 12: Did you feel over the last couple of weeks maybe
• 50:13
  Speaker 12: that this was heading in the direction that it's in
• 50:15
  Speaker 12: this week? Did you maybe get you know, more reps
• 50:17
  Speaker 12: in practice? Did you just feel like we're heading in
• 50:20
  Speaker 12: this direction to start this week this early?
• 50:23
  Speaker 11: You know, really, I just trying to prepare and instead
• 50:25
  Speaker 11: try to stay ready every week. You know, I think
• 50:27
  Speaker 11: that's the thing about this league. You never know what
• 50:29
  Speaker 11: your numbers gonna get called, so try to stay ready.
• 50:32
  Speaker 11: And I think, you know, like I said earlier, Jacoby,
• 50:34
  Speaker 11: I think he did all he could. I think he
• 50:36
  Speaker 11: you know, battles his butt off and was a great leader.
• 50:39
  Speaker 11: So I think kind of the biggest thing is, you know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 11: it's the winning league. You know, we're sitting here at
• 50:44
  Speaker 11: one and four, and I think, you know, those guys
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: around here want to win for yourself. Yeah, I think
• 50:52
  Speaker 11: you'll go out there and just try to make some plays.
• 50:54
  Speaker 11: I think the biggest thing I must tell them some
• 50:56
  Speaker 11: of those guys is, you know, probably meet a little
• 50:57
  Speaker 11: nerves at the beginning. But I think the thing once
• 51:00
  Speaker 11: we settle down, we got a chance to move to
• 51:03
  Speaker 11: football and just have fun out there. Back to having
• 51:05
  Speaker 11: fun going out there. Thinks that is what this game about.
• 51:07
  Speaker 11: Don't make it too big or the spotlight too big,
• 51:09
  Speaker 11: and uh, just go out there with those guys that
• 51:12
  Speaker 11: should we've been battling for the three months in training camp.
• 51:15
  Speaker 7: Go out there and try to make some plays open
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: to get home.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: In front of the fans here. And also, will you
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: have an entire may family section coming at the game?
• 51:24
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think, you know, I think a few of
• 51:26
  Speaker 11: my brothers and my parents would be here, but uh,
• 51:28
  Speaker 11: nothing in particular. But I think pretty Sweeten and the
• 51:31
  Speaker 11: red throwbacks may me that would be pretty cool to
• 51:34
  Speaker 11: get out there in my first art and especial in
• 51:36
  Speaker 11: front of these fans, and I think Patriots fans the
• 51:39
  Speaker 11: best fans in the league and looking forward to you know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 11: playing Gillette in front of them.
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 51:59
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  Speaker 4: And now great moments in.
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: History.
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: So in Sync is playing at the old stadium and
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: like my wife is going, she's taking my nieces and stuff.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: The webmaster who rickames, he took this piece of cardboard
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: and somehow like butt this wire and it's like honk
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: if you love in sync.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: But it he rigged it up in such a way
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: that Paul wouldn't see it when he got in his car,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: but once he started driving.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: It down down.
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: So I was driving.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: And everyone and I'm meeting bet at like Papa Gino's
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: and like everybody's beeping and I'm like what. I'm like,
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: I'm driving like ten miles.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Hey, ass man, exactly, you got that right.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: I looked at it. I was like, oh, that's that's
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: just too perfect. Everybody, every single person in the building
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: knew about it, and they all like, were what And
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: they couldn't wait for me to get back because I
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: was going down to meet Beth and my nieces and
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: I was coming back and they were like, I bet go.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: That's another great moment from.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: That was a classic.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: All Right, we're back here with a in SINC super fan,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Paul Perillo.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: I do like him. You know what, it's gonna be mad,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be made perfect.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: How perfect is that?
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: Paul?
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Well, we're riding with Peepy and the Deuce here as
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Fred left us alone. So now I get to hide and.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Even Fred Leven's not going to get us out of
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: good moods. We're just excited, No, we are.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: There was a funny email. I don't I'm not to
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: go back to it, but somebody said, he's like I
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: love Duce, He's like all Monotona depressed on Tuesday, the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: post game show on Tuesday, and then he comes in
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: today and I'm.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Like, everything Sunday. Sunday was a wellness check on Douce. Yeah,
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: you know, that was a particularly tough loss for you
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: because you put a lot into that one.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I had a rank in camera and everything. I took
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: my one like Fred does, and I was like, you know,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: try to rally the troops. They didn't listen to me, though, No,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: but you know, that was just feeling like you had
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: maybe a chance to put Miami into more of a
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: spiral and maybe put them below where you're going to
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: be at the end of this year.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously there's so many injuries and things
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: that I had to play out, but you know, just
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: to see the same game again, it goes back to why.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: The division has some issues. I mean, there's no question
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Miami certainly didn't fix anything with that win.
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: The other day.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Obviously the Jets. I don't know how much talk do
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: we talk about sala I don't think so gone he gone, yeah,
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: so yeah. The division in a little bit of a turmoil,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: it is, I mean, and Fred will tell you the
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: bills are done anyway, So right window clo closing.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: So Paul, I'm want to read this email here because
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's a good one from John in Utah
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of what I kind of how I
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: feel a little bit.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Congratulations on the win last night for the hockey club.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Oh and he actually mentions that in his email, but
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: he says, I'm trying not to get premat at fans
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: for calling Drake May a bust in December when the
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: team only has three wins and the offense is only
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: marginally improved. I'm glad he's going to get some experience
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: seeing and doing everything firsthand and said on the sideline.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: He also adds, you know, Jacoby Resenters deserves the NFL's
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: purple heart for standing in behind that offensive line and
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: taking shots constantly. Hopefully they'll be able to improve a bit,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: but regardless, it'll be a learning experience for Drake. Excited
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: for a new hour and he says he was at
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the game last night in Utah for the Utah Hockey Club.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Are they sticking with that? They gonna change it?
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: I think for the year anyway, that's for the year.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: That's a new thing they do. They like, you know,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: you soft launch your your mascot.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: If you were a team, would you just put a
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: mascot out there sight unseen?
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, I bet it for listen right, Well,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I like the Fleet. Our own PWHL team went with
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: the Fleet. And I know I'm usually against the singular,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: but fleet does imply many of ships, so I guess
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. Okay, But I like Utah's colors.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: I think I like like that that light blue like
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I've always liked main Sorry, I know your hockey's guy.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I like those light blue, dark blue kind of combinations.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I think they went with a good choice. It wasn't
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: anything too crazy, like you know, those crazy teals and stuff.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: But but go back to the email, Paul, That's just
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: what I'm worried about. It's like, how do we know
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: the difference without wins and losses of it was good
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: for Drake May versus it wasn't as good as we
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: thought it would be, you know, and I want to
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: be fair to him. Yeah, and it's going to be
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: easy to react to wins and losses. But you know,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: we talked about ninety three, brought up a couple of
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: times we bled so where they won the last four games,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: and I mean they won five games all year. They
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: were five and twelve or sorry, five and eleven. See
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: the seventeen games got on my head.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: Five and eleven, but there was excitement.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: And obviously you beat Miami and over you you know,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: you win, and it was overtime too, right as a
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: walk off touch down win to end the season. You
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs?
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: Who cut the touchdown pass?
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: You have?
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: What come on? You discussed? I don't know, Michael Timpson.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Timpson and I wouldn't have gotten that one. But obviously
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: that's the clear example of like that's great, right, Like
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: you won your last four games. I'm sure you can
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: tell us how exactly Bledsoe was playing in those games.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it might not be like that. He was
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: a typical rookie quarterback. He had his UPSTATECE. I think
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: he had fifteen touchdowns, fifteen picks or something like that.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: It was right it was, you know, a very mediocre season,
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: but there were games that you saw along the way
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: that you were like, Okay, I can see what they see. Certainly,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: you know, you could make an argument that that last
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: game against Miami that you were talking about was the
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: best game. You know, I think they I think it
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: was like thirty three twenty seven in overtime, Like it
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: was a high scoring game.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: You could score more than thirty points.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: That's yeah, yeah, so you saw. I always say that
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: particularly or not that we need to go back into
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: the nineteen ninety three time machine, but historical comparison, there
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: was a game that he was absolutely off, probably his
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: worst game he played at Pittsburgh, and I think he
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: threw five interceptions. But what I came away that was
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: the most, that was the most convinced that I was
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: that he was going to be a good player, because
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: it was awful. It was three Rivers Stadium. Nothing was
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: going right. He was making all kinds of mistakes, and
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: they got the ball back at the end of the game.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: I want to say, they were down seventeen to fourteen,
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden he put together a drive
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: and they went all the way down the field. They
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: had the ball inside the one yard line, they went forward.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Instead of kicking the field goal to tie, they went
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: for the win on a quarterback seat. He got stuffed.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: But I was like, you can play that bad as
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: a rookie, and yet with the game on the line,
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: you put together a drive and you know, obviously they
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: fell short. It was kind of a big thing with
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: Parcels and Led so about the quarterback sneak. Parcells didn't
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: want to do it. Juice that I can get in
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: the whole thing, but like, no, he didn't get in.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: But I was just like if like I always say,
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: you know, pitchers, like you know, I used to say,
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: like anybody can get guys out when they have their stuff,
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: what do you do when you don't?
• 59:13
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Same for a quarterback. You know, when you go out
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: and like the first two drives, you go right down
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: the field and it's fourteen. Not anybody can play great
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: the rest of the game that way, But what do
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: you do when you stink for three quarters but the
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: game is still winnable. That's why I give Brissette a
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: little credit. I thought some of his best throws in
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: the five weeks came in that last drive last week.
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: That's hard. That's hard to do mentally to overcome all
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: that adversity that a lot of which is brought on
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: by you and your performance. How do you respond to that?
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: So those are the kinds of little things that I'll
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: be looking for with Drake May. I'm not expecting him
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: to do what Jayden Daniels is doing. Like if that happens, obviously,
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: you know we'll do the fred shirt off thing in
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: the press. No, not only one of us that's in shape.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you do it?
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I need to horrify everyone in the past box Pall.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: That's true. We've got enough going for it.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Like it'd be great if he was so good that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: we can all see it. It's obvious to anybody. But
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: more likely it's going to be more of a thing
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: where you know, there's some subtleties that he's he's doing
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: some things better than he had been doing, you know, incrementally,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: and the offense looks incrementally better than it was with Brissette.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: And you know, like something that you said before we
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: took the break, you know, is the ball coming out quick?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Is it coming out to the right place? The easy stuff?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: And I think he mentioned that to me, something about,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: you know, the easy throws, and you had made the
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: comment I just wish we could get the easy stuff
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: with Brissette, and I said, well, what's what's easy? Yeah,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: like that kind of stuff. It might not translate to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: more production and more points and all that, but I'd
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: like to see some of those quick throws be completed
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: more often than they have been.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Do you think though, I mean, I feel like it's
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: most likely going to be nuanced and it's not going
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: to be a box score like look at the box score,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: and you know, you know, like and I think that's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: one of the things that like you're good at because
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: sometimes people it feels like just read the box score
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: and then they say it and then you come and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: like rattle off the play sequence and you're like, well, actually,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: you know, and I said.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Like, how many holding calls did they get in the
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: game the other day that wiped out running plays? Yeah?
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: I know that kind of stuff.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Is there any chance that he's even better than we're expecting?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know we're not super you know, over
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: the top positive.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: I think there's a big I think there's a really
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: good chance he's better than I'm expecting. Because I'm not
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: expecting much at the start.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to temper expectations. But you know, that's what
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I just want to set reasonable. I felt like I
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: was reasonable, Like someone wrote in and said, you know,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I felt like, get to November, that's when I was
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: going to start to get the itch. I felt like
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: that was reasonable. And I want to be you know,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: reasonable in my expectations of what he can do. But
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I think the only thing that will disappoint me, though,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: is that if we don't see those glimpses of the talent,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: you know, the athleticism, the army. But to be fair,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like those things were on display from the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: word go this spring when we first got him out there,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: and he was just you know, not all of them complete,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: but not afraid to chuck the ball down the field,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: to throw the ball where he's you know, in the air,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: and and you know, off platform, all that stuff. Like
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: he just he didn't hesitate from any of that stuff.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: I want to see some offense that just looks natural.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: Patriots think of Patriots Patriots plays. I want to see
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: offense that looks normal.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: All right, let's jump over to the phones here. Check
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: out Mike Vermont the TPX Hotline. Thanks for reminding me,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Mike and Vermont. He Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not a phone dropper. You gotta come on. But
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: all right, you're out jumping down to Vegas, Vinnie, Vegas.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: Ay, Anny, Hey guys, how's been going? Hey?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: Uh, I am.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 8: I'm excited for Drake. I don't have a lot of expectations.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: I just wanted to start going on his development. I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 8: did actually listen to some of the Pole's shows the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 8: other day, and you know, they brought out that they
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 8: they felt like the move was a panic move, and
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 8: I don't I don't fully disagree with it. What I
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 8: do disagree with is that the Houston Texans are you know,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 8: the worst time to do it, you know, a month
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 8: ago when they say that the plan was made, there
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: was no soft landing spot for Drake on the first
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 8: you know, six weeks. I mean you had you know,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: at that point, the Dolphins had their quarterback, right, I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 8: mean that that was going to be a game that
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 8: we were going to lose a home, right, And so
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 8: I don't fully agree that, you know, if the plan
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 8: was made a month ago, that they were they should
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 8: have been starting before now like that. That doesn't go
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: with me. And I do have a question for you guys.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: How big of a deal it is that Kendrick Bourne
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 8: is going to be able to play and as a
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 8: full goal.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: Gotcha, thanks for many appreciate the call.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Uh another guy? Yet another guy?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, another another option in the passing game? Are
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: they they need more?
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Start to ramp up to a little bit more. I mean,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: he didn't didn't play a lot, and he said, what
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: do you say?
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: He probably felt like you needed another couple of weeks
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: before that was going to happen. But yeah, I think
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: he's a better player than the guys that are not
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: going to be playing now, So I think that helps.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Sticking with the.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: TPX hoighline, Patty's up.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: Dan, Hey, I got typ one.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 14: Yeah, so PAULI I got Michael Timpson when you said that,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 14: I got I got that right away. I'm like, how
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 14: the hell does Douce not know that that was Michael
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 14: Timpson who he.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: Was just blogging at the time.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 14: I'm Mike, I don't know what to say o that.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 14: I'm excited. I can't wait. And the bigger question I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 14: wanted to ask you guys, and well, it's not the
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 14: bigger question. The smaller question I wanted to ask you
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 14: guys is do you think do you guys have any
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 14: interest in Devin Waite, who has been recently released due
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 14: to the attrition that's been on the team and on
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 14: the deep and specifically up the middle of the defense.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I think he'd be.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 14: A good ad. I'd love to seem in Patriots blue.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 14: I don't know what you guys think.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thanks Paddy, I I'd be all for it.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: I first thought was why is he released?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that is a question, and I don't
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: know why he hasn't played, isn't dressed for a single
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: game in Philly. But I don't know. I'm always intrigued
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: because just because they don't have anybody right now, and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I you know, and I'm.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Not I wouldn't kill him for doing it, you know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: But my guess is he's done?
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: What's he have left? Yeah, I mean it's fair to wonder.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know enough about him, But it's just when
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: these names get released, like a guy is a good
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: and then for eternity, it's.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: I absolutely loved dev Devin White and Tampa was a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: great player.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: How did he fall off so quick?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Because I just think there's a lot of wear and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: tear at that spot, like a little so there was
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: a trend in the league that really went wide widespread
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: with that, you know, that undersized athletic inside linebacker types.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: It was you know, Patrick Queen and Roquan Smith and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Kenneth Murray and Devin White, Devin Bush. I think in
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh there were a lot of guys like that, and
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: I loved them. I thought it was sort of a
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: new way. And Belichick wasn't enamored with those guys. They
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: were too small for him. Devin White's a guy that
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: was really really good. I just think there's probably a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: lot of wear and tear being a little undersized.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, even not being undersized. Look at j Want Bentley,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I mean he's getting a little bit wear in tear.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Darren Side as.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: Well, But I do I mean, I would have no
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: problem with taking a flyer on a guy like that
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: obviously had the ability to be an impact player in
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: the league. Whether or not he could still do it,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: who knows, you know.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Sticking with the TPX hotline, it's very hot on the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: hot line today, Kendall, North Carolina.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: Hey Kendall, go on, what's.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: Up when you when do you think you know what?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: You had?
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 14: Take a year?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: About two years?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 16: And then my facond question is are.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: You saying.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: I said I didn't?
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: When when do you think you'll know about the quarterback?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: And I would say around this time next year, you'll
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: probably have a pretty good clue, just assuming he plays
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: all the games like that get hurt, Like if he plays,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: you know whatever, what do they have left till twelve?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: We have twelve games left, So if he plays twelve
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: and then you know another, you know, half dozen or
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: so next year, you probably have a good idea of
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: where he.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Is, and you'll see how they are, what the new
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: pieces are doing, you know, is their round tackle?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: Like it's never perfect, Like Trevor Lawrence, Like he played
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: his rookie year and it was a disaster with urban
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: Meyer and all that mess that went on there. And
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: then he took a second year, and then as the
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: second year sort of was wrapping up, it looked like
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: he was getting really good. And then third year he
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: looked like he was phenomenal, and then all of a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: sudden he hurt his ankle and he lost nine games
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: in a row and finally snapped that streak last week.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: So certainly, if you went halfway to the second year
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: for Trevor Lawrence, you'd be like, Oh, we got something here.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: He's he's definitely on the rise. And I still think
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: he's good to me too. I know, I don't think
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: he's great.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I know it scares me. I mean, I guess is
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: the path to greatness always I mean, I know it's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: a little bumpy, but is it generally up? I mean,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: with him, it seems like it's you know, I don't
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: know if he's still on that path of greatness.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: And Kendall, I would just say the wide receivers are
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: probably what you saw on Sunday. I think it's Douglas Polk.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: I think it's Douglas Polk born with some some booty
• 1:08:21
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• 1:08:23
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  Speaker 1: of the New England Patriots. Heading out to Toronto, Brad,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I think the Maple Lice got off to a good
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: start last night today, did they didn't?
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: I didn't care they played.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't tonight.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: Come on.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: There's just a lot of hype, a lot of I.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: Know, Brad, I got it with mister hockey here.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Sorry. Yah, he doesn't even know what's going on up
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: in Toronto.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 16: Oh nothing, really, I just got a quick question talking
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 16: about starting May. Would it autun made sense to start
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 16: him last week? Considered it's a short week going to London.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 16: They got the Jags, so I didn't know what the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 16: schedule is. Yeah, you would think that it'll be a
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 16: shorter week this week, coming up after Houston.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Brad.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: I just I think we've been saying it for so long,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: POULI it's like it's never gonna be perfect, Like there's
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: always gonna be something you can point out to be
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: like it shouldn't be this week?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: And would he just like what Brad just said. Yeah, like,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: I think you could make an argument you should have
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: played last week. I think you could argument they could
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: have waited un till next week, and then you could say, well,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: why would you do it next week when it's going
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: to be London and all that. So yeah, I mean
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: there's there's no perfect time. I'm just excited that it's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: it's time.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean maybe it's a good thing.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe you spin it that way of all right, Well,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: like I said earlier, you're getting him to face against
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: a young, up and coming team that seems like it's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: going to be in the mix for a while. And
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: then you know, Jackson it's been up and down, but
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: you know, still has kind of a teeter with that,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you know, with that up and coming thing for a
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: little bit. I mean they know that they've fallen back
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but you know, and he gets an
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: opportunity to go on a you know, a foreign stadium,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: and you know, all the.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: Thing is interesting. It's another one like we don't have
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: to turn it into like Jacksonville podcast. But they were
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: a disaster then all of a sudden, they they won
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: a division at nine and eight. Then they won a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: playoff game with an unbelievable comeback against the Chargers. Yeah.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: Then they were eight and three last year, number one
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: seed in the AFC, and then Trevor Lawrence turned his
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: ankle and they never won to get they won one game,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: I believe they beat Carolina without Trevor Lawrence and that
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: was it and they ended up losing out in the
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: playoffs and then they will you know what, they lose
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: four in a row to start the year until they
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: won the other day. I still think that's a good
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: football team, that's a talented team, that's, you know, got
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: some problems. Obviously they won in four. They have problems,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: but I still think they have some talent.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, danon Virginia, I mean, I don't really want to
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: read this one because he's talking about, like with Drake starting.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: It removes the fear I've had while seeing Jacoby take
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: a beating. If Jacoby were to sustain a long term
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: or season ending injury, he wo'll be the backup to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Drake should he, god forbid, suffer a similar injury. Joe
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Milton Mayo said today that it would be said to
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: be Jacoby, but is that what people are afraid of?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Is that what they're afraid of its long time because
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: they're just afraid of him getting hurt by a really
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: good time.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: That's what I mean. I know I'm picking on Mike Lombardi,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: and I know he was a general manager in the league,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: So you know, what have I ever done? Nothing that's accurate.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: You guys are accurate to point that out.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: But I just.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: You can't operate in fear of injury in that league.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: Everybody like injuries. Everybody's dealing with them. People are going
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: to get hurt, you know, no one wants them to happen.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: But like if you had to say, Mike, if you
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: had to say, do you think Kobe Brissett would have
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: started seventeen games physically?
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: No, no way.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: Do you think Drake may is going to start the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: last twelve? God? I hope so, but probably not right
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: because it's just like that's what happens. I know, like
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: there's a reason that almost none of the quarterbacks will
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: start all seventeen games for their teams. You just pray
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: it's not acl or you know, maybe like he sprains
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: his shoulder or something, and you know, like he has
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: left shoulder. I guess the miss a week and not
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: like the season, but that's what the unfortunate fact of
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: the matter is is these guys are probably going to
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: get hurt.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, well, I think that's what's scary is
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: is you get into the game and all of a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: sudden it looks like that Eagles joint practice did where
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: you're just like, he can't do any I mean, what
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: do you want to do? Like they're right in his
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: face every you know, that's what's scary. And then is
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: the hit start to add up? Does it? You know,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: that is something to watch over the long term of
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: does the tonnage catch up with him? Does he start
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: to get sped up?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: That's as they start watching the rush and instantly bailing,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: which is I think with the line of demarcation came
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: with Mac Jones.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah right right, just kept catching up but fingers crossed.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: We'll see TPX outline. Matthew Arizona.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 7: Matthew was going to.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 13: Get here man. Yeah right, So yeah, I'm really excited
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 13: for for Dreak to start kind of thinking back and
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 13: what you guys are talking about, like a blessed his
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 13: first year, we won five and eleven. Correct me from
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 13: long but.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 17: I think it was like eight of the eleven maybe
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 17: the eight eleven games, like, you know, we're close to winning.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 17: So I think with Drake and looking at like progression
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 17: more than evening like that he didn't need Brady because
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 17: Pluso was getting Jack so much that he can get hurt.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 17: He got injured during a Lesso came it was able.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 13: To win it, so you have to fear of injury.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 13: But that progressing in.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: The NFL, Yeah, I didn't hear a lot of that.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: I know he's right about the ninety three seasons. It
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: was very lot was very competitive, like they lost a
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: lot of close games. They were you know, I want
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: to say, like it was like one in six and
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: then like seven, eight nine, Like they were like one
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: score games like over and over and over. They just
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: couldn't find a way to win one of them. And
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: then they played really well finally in December and I
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: think they beat I want to say, they beat the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: Colts like thirty eight to nothing, you know, in one
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: of those games. And obviously the Miami game that we
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: talked about. But the one thing that Parcels did a
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: really really good job of. He said, I'm gonna put
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: this kid, I'm gonna throw him to the Wolves. But
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: he made sure that he was protected. That's the one
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: thing that really one glaring thing difference, especially Bledsoe. Right, Well,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: Drew didn't get first of all, this is like you
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: knew that he wasn't exactly like Lamar Jackson back there,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: but when he came out, he wasn't the guy what
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: did Ernie Adams call him in the documentary the wounded
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: wildebeest or something like that. He wasn't that at that time.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like shake a little bit.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: He never got sacked his first like when Parcells was
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: the coach, that was what four years. He never got sacked.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: He didn't start getting sacked until Parcells left. And I
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: think it was part of coaching with you know, when
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: Carol came in, like it wasn't the same sort of
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: dedication to protecting the passer because they had gotten sacked
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: like an absurd amount of times in ninety two and
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: Parcells came in and said, we're going to cut that
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: number down significantly, and they did.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: And how did they do it? Did they?
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: I mean because that's he signed he signed some of
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: his guys like he got. I think William Roberts came
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: from the Giants as one of the gods. I think
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: Bob cratch Yeah might have come cratche Yeah. I hate
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: when you look at me like that. It's funny because
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: it makes me feel so bad about myself.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: These names, and then all of a sudden, I can
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: just like picture the name.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: Do you have this at me?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 8: Like what?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: That's my kind of a person, that's that kind of minutia.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: That's my memory because I went to that.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: That's when it all happened. For Like, I was always
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: a Patriots fan, but when they drafted him number one overall,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: I said, I'm in. I'm a season ticket holder. Now
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: I'm with you. Now, Pop, I'm in Wellntal And that
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: was it. That was the That was the start for me,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: hopefully passion.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: People like Steven Scottsdale, who are sorry, no, this is
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: the wrong email. I jumped to the wrong email. Sorry, Steve,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna read this one real quick. Though's a little
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: inside baseball. But he said, you guys have two new sets.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: I've seen the one year in now and the other
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: one with the table sort of look like the old setup.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: I got to say that today's set reminds me of
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: sitting in the doctor's office trying to make conversations with
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: other patients.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: I totally agree.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: It's just as uncomfortable as that.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: No.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we do have in our beautiful studio, which
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: I'm not no sarcasm at all. This behind us here,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: the great, great job that that our staff did transforming
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: the state that it was badly needed because the old
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: the old studio is in disrepair. Shall we say?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: I think he's just he just likes the blood. See
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: picture I do.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: That's my favorite. iHeart Drew. You know you can see him.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: Actually he's so. But there Paul, learn how learn how
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: things work on TV. It's a mirror image.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: There he is, there they are.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: So we do have two different sets though. We have
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: this more casual podcast, look that Mike and I are
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: coming at you from today, and then when we do
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: like pre and post game, I think Evan and Alex
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: to Catch twenty two, a little bit more of a
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: desk and you know.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah a little bit more serious like the desk, Like
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: the desk.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: I like the desk too.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: This is all right.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: I feel like that's why I don't eat anymore.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: But we got a new table too.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: Looks Paul's food hasn't been here for a while. If
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: you guys haven't noticed because you can't eat on this thing.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: That's been the biggest benefit of PSI though, Man, Carson,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the TPX highline. Johnny in law. Are
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: things off? Johnny l in my old la stomping around? Johnny,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: what's going on out there?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how's it going?
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 7: Good?
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: Good?
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm up in the All States?
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: Wow, beautiful?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 14: Yeah yeah, wish Uh.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Next time you're here, let's watch a game at Sonny McLean's.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: I've been there many times.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: Be happy.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: And I probably won't be there for a game because
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: I'll be here, but but I'm sure i'll be back
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: there soon.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Lots of good memory, PAULI, Uh, guys, I wanted to
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: come to Evan's defense real quick.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, you know, Evan got.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Flaughtered for his his comment and uh, you know, the
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: whole the whole mutiny thing. First of all, I think
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Evan does an amazing job. And I'm not even one
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: of the dorks who gets into the minutia he does.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: I just think overall, he's he's a really good writer,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: he's a very he cares about football a lot. I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: think he does a great job.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 13: I I.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: Didn't think it was that big of a deal what
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: he said, it's sports, Like, who cares, you know, if
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: the people, if the Patriots have an issue with what
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Lazarre said, my advice to them is stop stucking. You know,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: like you you've you've stunk for the better part of
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: five or six years now, And if you want people
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: to say great things about you, then start playing better football,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Start hiring better coaches, start making better decisions, stop doing
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: stupid things like making defensive coordinators your offensive coordinator the
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: whole like you've stunk for a long time. If you
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: don't want reporters saying there's a mutiny in the locker room,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: and if again, if Lazar said it, there's some truth
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: to it, then be better. Do better. You've you've stunk,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: that's on you.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I would just say, obviously, there's a
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: difference between the things that you're saying about the team's
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: lack of success that's subjectively fact, like they haven't been
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: successful since twenty one. Really, they haven't had a winning
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: season since twenty one, right, thanks Shannye. But that's not
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: the same as saying that the players no longer want
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: to play for the coach so obviously Evan, you know, apologized.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: He apologized on the show yesterday and we talked about it.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: He's not here to sort of add any more to that,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: but I think we would all agree that, you know,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: we all are in the opinion business. We all say
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: things sometimes and I've been in you know, probably not
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: in that hot of water, but we've all said and
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: done stupid things and sometimes you got to walk them back.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: And Evan walked it back, and you know, we moved on.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it was it was a little too far. Yeah,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: I would say, you know, but you know, we did it,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: we owned it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: And we move on.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I give Fred a lot of credit for those are
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: so much speculation about the taking down of the video,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: and it's like, here it is Fred did it. Fred
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: told you he did it, and you know the reasoning why,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: and that he you know, thought it was a mistake.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: So you know, we try to be transparent, but I
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: think we realize we're under a microscope here. And I mean, look,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: I came from the outside and it's such a it's
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: such a unique position to be and I'd say somebody
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: at one point, I'm not sure who it was, it
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: might have been Andy described it as the team sees
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: you as the media, but the media sees you as
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: the team, and so you're kind of in this nether
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: world and you're you know, trying to be respectfully critical
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: of the team, and you know, but you're also trying
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: not to it's perfectly put, trying not to take a
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: blow towards to you know, a specific player, you know,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: or I mean I find that's for me, is the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: easiest place to live is look at the third down defense.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: Don't look at player at at defensive end who got
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: blown up seventeen times, you know, those kinds of things.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: But just I love that phrase that the team sees
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: us as the media, and the media sees us as
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: the team. The team is right, the media is wrong. Right, Like,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: we're not the team. We work for the team, but
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: we're not part of the team. And there's a big difference.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: We're hired to analyze the team just like everybody else.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, technically we work for Craft Sports and Entertainment. We
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: are not you know, I'm not a Patriots employee. I
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: don't I can't get into the locker room, you know,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: or into the you know, into their facility, all those
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: kinds of things, So there is some nuance to it
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: that seems lost on some people in.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: The like Listen, no one feels bad for us. We
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: have a very fun job, and you know, I wouldn't
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have been here for twenty This is my
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: twenty sixth season. You wouldn't stay at something, you know,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: that long if you didn't enjoy it. I enjoy it.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: And yes, there's a fine line that we have to
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: walk at times, but you know, grow up.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's part of your job, It's part of life.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: There are a lot harder jobs. They're a lot a
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: lot harder jobs.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: I've said a million times at Beach working for a limit, Yeah, totally.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: And I love this show, believe me.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: See what Dan thinks done in Daytona Beach. Dan, what's
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: the weather down there?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 13: For you?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: They Hey, ho, was are going Paul and induced it's
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 6: pretty crazy down here in Florida. It's uh, it's pouring
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: right now at the current moment, but it's supposed to
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: be getting worse tonight. I appreciate that Paul I was
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: wondering to Fred and the rest of the crew on
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: and Evan to get my take on this, but it's
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: kind of going to be beaten a dead horse again.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: But I think I'm happy to see may play. That's
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: that's awesome. But at this point, I mean it was getting,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 6: you know, pretty boring and just it was it just
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: was unwatchable, you know, with the whole Uh, Jakobe Brissett
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: and just Alex n Felton, I've been greative and I've
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: been watching You've been watching your guys to show, Paul, uh,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: you know, Felgard Masks and ninety eight point five, and
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 6: they were talking about how they think Alex Vnfelt needs
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: to go, and I gotta agree with him. I think
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: he's He's called a very vanilla. It almost looks like
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 6: a preseason game every time I watched it. So I
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: don't know, maybe Mayo needs to move on or I
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: don't know what he needs to do, but I think
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: that he needs to bring a I think a younger,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: more innovative like a Ben Johnson or Bobby Slower from
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: the Sexton then too, not them, but somebody liked them
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 6: that's young and innovative, that can run still run the
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 6: wise zone scheme that they want to run, or maybe
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: bring in Josh McDaniels back. I don't know. I think
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: Josh would be perfect for May. To be honest, it'd
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: be he can kind of run a similar offense to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: what Drake ran and didn't see, you know, a little
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: bit more shotgun, and you know, it'd be more pressure
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: on him, but he'd have to learn the system. But
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: I think May smart enough to handle that. But none
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: of that can happen unless they they go out. My
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: last thing is unless they go out and they build
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: an offensive line. I think as you look back in history,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: the main problem in the elephant in the room of
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: the Patriots. They don't have a great office line. It's
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 6: a and they'll never be good until they actually fully
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 6: invest into the line. And I think what they need
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: to do next year is use most of their draft
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: capital to go after offensive line. I know that doesn't
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: sound faun or entertaining the people, but you can't do
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: anything on offense unless you have solid tackles and solid
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: guards and a good center. I don't see David Andrews
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: coming back anytime soon, and in my honest opinion, I
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: think David Andrews is probably going to hang it up
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: after this year. I've been watching this podcast and I
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: just I don't. I don't know if he's gonna come back.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: So I think they need to go after a center.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: They need to go get guards, and they need to
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 6: get tackles.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would agree with that. I mean,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: I think that Andrews sounded like you want to at
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: least give it a try. Yeah, but yeah, they need
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: They need to fix their offensive line. There's there's no secret.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: And I think Dan like, to me, that's why I
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: don't really focus as much on the coaching mic is
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: because I feel like they're lacking in the personnel area
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: on offense almost across the board. They have some I'm
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: not telling you that every player can't play like they have.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: Some players, you know, you know, Douglas and Polk, you know,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: look like they can make some plays for you. I
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: like the idea that going to be back maybe to
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: look a little bit better, they needed an alpha. They
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: need a big receiver, a big you know, I don't
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: mean size wise, I just mean a big target that
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: will occupy the other team's focus and be able to
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: make plays because he's better, you know, And they got
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: to fix the offensive line obviously outside speed.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: To me is it's just that's what they're crying for
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: and you know, you had that element. I think it
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: maybe makes some of those other guys better. But I
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: agree with his take on Andrews though, based on what
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: he said, I mean, it sounds dicey.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: If I don't think it's I don't think it's any
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: I think, how did he put it? Like doing it
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: this way it gives me the best chance, the chance
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: to be able to continue my career. But I think
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: that's his like desire just to come back for another year.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: And then they just signed to the Hainsworth Sincere Hainesworth.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: Just gonna say it's a great name.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Sincere excuse me, geez made me cough, but not not
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: related to Albert hands or I'm kissing. But you know
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: they have the guy in the practice squad as well,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: So I mean they've got a couple of centers. I
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: mean it seems like it's it's on their mind. That's
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: a really important position too. And you know it made
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: me think too, we're talking about going back to Josh.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge jump. Josh wants to put
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: it all in the quarterback. He wants a quarterback to everything.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying from a schematic standpoint, that's a heavy lift.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: But by the same token, there's a lot more on
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: the center in this offense. So that's a very important
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: position too, So they need to figure that out long term.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think in a perfect world, you're I
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: don't know if Kiden Wallace can come back, but Kiden
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: Wallace and when you and one of these guys, whether
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: it's City so Leyden Robinson, even Cold strange, if one
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: of those guys can be an okay left card, you know,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: maybe it's not we have to dedicate five draft picks
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: to because you've got needs on defense too. You're gonna
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: have needs on that side of the ball. I hate
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: to tell everybody, but you're you're gonna have to figure
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: out the edge I mean, and I mean those and
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: those are that, you know, the sides of the defense
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: I mean and throw in peppers. We don't know what
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: his future could be. I mean, he might be done,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: like we might have to, you know, have another starting safety,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: depending on how you feel about Martine Apu as well.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: So you know, there's there's a lot, a lot of questions,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: but hopefully over these last twelve games we can get
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: you know, at least a couple guys to step up
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: and say, you know, look, I feel really good about it.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is probably the most unlikely one. Caden
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Wallace at right tackle. I don't even know if he's
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: going to be back, but you know, just taking a
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: couple things off the plate of we have to check
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: this Bux and this bucks and this bus, you know,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: feel good about a couple things. I mean, you mentioned
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Polkin and and Pop Like I like those guys. I mean,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think alone they're able to do it. They're
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: not enough for sure, but like I said, at the top,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: once you get going, maybe they're there. They look a
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: little bit better with that.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: I had a guy, you know, if you could add
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: you know, a free agent addition, one of the top
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: flight guys, you know, like they tried with Ayuk. You know,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: I think those other guys would look a little bit better. Yeah,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: that's what.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: You're hoping for, drawing some attention away from them.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: And if it's T Higgins or someone I know, like
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: you know, Matt, you know, our our home for pre
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: and post game. He doesn't like T Higgins as much
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: as I do, but I kind of get the impression
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: from listening to Matt a little bit the last few
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: and don't really like a whole lot, Like, you know,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: no one's really any good, you know, so I just
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: feel like they're going to have to figure out somebody
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: that they think is worthy of that and add him
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: to the list, because it can't be these are the
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: best guys you have. That's not good enough. Maybe it's
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: it's not fair to them, it's not fair to to
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: Mario Douglas that, you know, sort of a smaller slot
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: receiver is the best you have right now.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: If you need more than that, yeah, look at Jahim
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Bell too. I mean I think Austin Hooper has been okay, well,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: you know a little more athleticism. I mean, you always
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Paul bring up David Nijoku from Cleveland and how successful
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: he was in this offense. To really have, you know,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: no disrespect to Hunter Henry. I mean, I think he's
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: a reliable, you know, steady kind of a guy, but
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's really like a game changer, you know,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: real problem in the middle of the field. And I'm
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: intrigued by Jahim. We didn't see a lot of him
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: this summer, but I did see him run pretty well
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: and That's like one thing that I feel if you
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: really got a you know, a tight end that can
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: threat and the seam a little bit more. I think,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: you know, Hunter, Henry, great, find the soft spot in
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: the zone first down, you know, not a run after
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: threat or run after your catch threat though, but you're.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: Gonna have these guys back the hole. That's another one
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: put on the list.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tight end.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like this holes, like even if Bell like
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: panned out to be something like, you still need tight ends.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: How long do you think Henry and Hooper are going
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, Hope's just a one year deal too, so
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: I mean he's he's going to be gone. But maybe
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: that opens up the opportunity for Bell next year. And
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: I mean it sure seems like this regime is very
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: invested in playing their draft picks. Whereas I don't know,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Bill would always say, once you get here, everybody's here.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where you were drafted, how big your
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: contract is. But I think that this regime maybe takes
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: just a little bit more, like it puts a little
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: bit more on the guys that they draft and said, look,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: even if these guys maybe don't burst out of the
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: gate on fire. We need to get them snaps, we
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: need to get them involved. We need to know what
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: they can do, like a Marcel's Dial for example, who
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: didn't think blew up anything. You know, was kind of
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: marginally involved on defense this winter but in the summer,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: but was able to get in there and made the
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: team and you know now is playing special teams. But
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: you know, did he really is he really better than
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: some of those others. I don't know how they go.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: I would counter with that if it weren't so, you know,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: we got other things on it, you know, like's Javon
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 4: Baker jahem bell actively yeah, right right, that's what Bill
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: would do.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Javon Baker is another one though, like
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: maybe it starts to click for him in the offseason
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: and you know he starts to come back and you know.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: Offers some some juice.
• 1:31:38
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• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: don't know if there's a new song. Somebody was teasing
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: maybe that's a locker room one, but yeah, oh is
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: it really did? Did did Jill come through a song?
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  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: It's a real song?
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  Speaker 7: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Great, that's that's nice. I'm I'm excited, but I won't
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: be able to hear it today. Is I didn't go
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: to locker right? All right? Good, good, fair enough.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: I'm not jealous at all.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: You got no songs?
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: Pot, I don't you get a song? I don't need
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: a get them in ai.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: I need a car put in you.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: Work out a car deal for me because.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Put in things about diet, PEPSI, car inspection.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: No, I just need a car. I don't need any song.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Northeastern sports in general, anything else. Those are your biggest hits.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: This is where you said, didn't you go to be you?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: I won't bring that up.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: That's beautiful. By the way, so my son tells me.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: We're going around the world to Greece and Alex Hay else.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 15: Hey, guys, can hear me? How's it going?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, fine, what's your question?
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 15: I had a quick question. I just wanted to get
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 15: your guys' take on on something other than Drake May.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 15: I know the focus is on May obviously. You know
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 15: May is gonna grow there, He's gonna play. He's either
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 15: going to be good or you know, he's going to
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 15: struggle in the beginning. My my concern, honestly the last
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 15: few games has been the coaching a little bit. And
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 15: I know it's in new regime and I know this
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 15: roster isn't up to part, but there's just a lot
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 15: of decision making in games, a lot of this coaching
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 15: problems I've seen. And my question to you guys is
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 15: do you view the coaching separately from Drake May's performance? So,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 15: regardless of how they plays, are you still going to
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 15: be looking at this coaching stass and giving them, giving
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 15: them a pass and going, you know, it's year one,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 15: or are you guys going to be saying if May
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 15: plays well or bad kind of irregardless, you know that
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 15: they didn't perform well this year. So I just wanted
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 15: to get your guys' take on that and how you
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 15: view those two different entities that sort of thing.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good question. It's a really good question. I mean,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: I think it relates into what you know, we're kind
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: of saying, like what's reasonable with May and how does
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: it reflect on the coaching staff? And I would agree
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: with the point. I think some of the stuff that situationally,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: play calling, you know, those kind of things need to
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: get better. And I think willing to offer a little
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: bit of you know, grace at the at the beginning
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: stages for a whole new coaching staff, a lot of guys,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of different pieces from different areas kind of
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: all brought together. But I think it's a it's an
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: excellent point. There's more than just May throwing a.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: Couple of deep balls, and that's say. But I agree
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: with you, Mike, and I would say that I don't
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: think that we're giving the coaches a pass because they're
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: in their first year. I think, you know, when you
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: sort of see some mistakes, you can say, well, yeah,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: those are mistakes. You know, first time coach, he's going
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: to learn from them. But when you see the same
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: mistakes get repeated a couple of weeks later, like the
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: the sequence at the end of the half that we
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: talked about, that's cause for concern, you know. And I'm
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 4: not taking it off the coaches because they don't have
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: what I would consider, you know, elite talent across the board.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: But I'm also not putting it all on, you know,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: the players if I don't think they're always being put
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: in the right positions to succeed. So it's one of
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: those kind of feel things like I don't think they
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: were put in the best particular spot at the end
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: of the first half against Seattle and against Miami, Like
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: I think that was a coaching issue. I don't blame
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: the coaches for the fact that they can't figure out
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: a way to score more points than they have because
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: I think that's a player issue more than the play
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: calling that has been getting so much of the heat
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: right now. So it's hard, but it is a good
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: question that Alex brings up. It's I think everything should
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: be a fit evaluated, Like you should be able to
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: look at it and say, well, you know what, I thought,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: they had a really good game plan this week. You know,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: it worked really well early in the game. The other
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: team sort of figured it out, adjusted and they were
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: able to shut you down.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should be able to see that. Yeah, And
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: I mean at her point you said this before of
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: you brought up past regime, would be able to adjust,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: you know, or you'd I like, And it's funny when
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: you brought it up too, because it's so struck home
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: for me. It was kind of like one of my
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: credos when I was a blogger of just like, don't
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: overreact to the first drift. Don't overreact to it good
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: or bad. Like, don't overreact because even if they picked
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: their way down the field and you know, have a
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: nice drive score, you know, hopefully a touchdown off in
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, would you know, let them go eighty eighty
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: yards and then they'd stop them and force a field goal,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: But you know, what are those adjustments that they were
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: able to make in game and you know now we're
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: seeing something different. I'd also just point out stuff like
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: twelve men on the field. Yeah, you know, sideline communication
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff, which I don't think has been a
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: huge problem like this early part. But I mean last
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: year was a problem too.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, no problem the last couple of years ago. Check
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: the substitutions on defense were a huge problem. Hasn't really
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: been a problem, Yeah, I don't think so fun that
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 4: was a special team's one. Yeah, it's a special teams issue,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: but I don't think that's been as big a problem
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: in the five games as it was like the last
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: two years as an example. So yeah, all those kinds
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: of things we're trying to watch and evaluate, you get
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: to learn from them.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: Do you know? Quite a few emails here that I appreciate,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: which is like from Wisconsin just saying I've noticed that
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who are afraid of breaking may
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: are the same people who thought Mac was going to
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: be great, which is say they aren't ball knowers. Let's
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: go let the drake may excuse me rap begin, but
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of emails that I think echoing
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: what we talked of, like people are just afraid he's
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: gonna get hurt, Like they're afraid to play him against
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: the defense that you think has an overwhelming amount of
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: pass rush that they're not going to be able to start.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: I would just say to those people, like I'm always
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: concerned that players are going to get hurt, But like,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: what's the It's not the end of the world if
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: a guy gets hurt. Yeah, it's just not like if
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: you have Super Bowl aspirations and your quarterback gets hurt,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: that's that's way different. But I just don't think that
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: that necessarily ends the Drake May era if he plays,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: even if he got hurt Sunday, Like that would suck
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: because it would suck because we don't get a chance
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: to watch him. But I don't think that it ends
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 4: the career of Drake May. Like he can rehab and
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: come back next year and be the starter and we'll
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: figure it out.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: But like.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: You can just not play him and not get any
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: development too, what's the like Like that to me is
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: the difference, Like what so if he if he plays
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: and gets hurt and he doesn't play the rest of
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: the way, what's the difference if he doesn't play the
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: rest of the way like other than you know, easy
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: for me to say, other than the pain that Drake
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 4: may is suffering from, or whatever the injury happens to be.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: I just like I said, I put it out there.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: Can someone give me an example of a career ending
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: injury on a quarterback who played too soon?
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: You know, David from Madrid echoes that a little bit.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: The taking scare getting hurt versus good team doesn't make sense.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: He can equally get hurt against a bad defense. Last Sunday,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins didn't have any top brass rushers and Levertt
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: somehow gave up ten pressures. You just have to play
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: the kid and roll the dice. Even the best old
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: lines give up hits every week. I mean I've set
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: up before I point to eight where no Brady. I
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: mean what first quarter of the game. I mean Bernard
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: Pollard dives into his knee and you know it's all
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: It's all over for that year. So it can it
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: can happen even to those kind of teams too. I
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: agree though, and I just I just hope he can
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: do enough to kind of stem the tide because been
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: through a lot. We've been through a lot the last
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: couple of years. We changed everything this offseason, you know,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: and you had some good energy going through camp, and
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: you know that's more the energy the unknown, because you
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: just haven't really seen good or bad yet. But then
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: it's like injuries and you know, off the field stuff,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: and you know you've lost all the captains, and you know,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: and and and Jakobe just can't really seem to get
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: anything going, and you know, it's just it's been a
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: really trying try and start on.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: A number of a lot of unforeseen things like they
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: you know, Jeri keeps saying, we kind of knew that
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: we were gonna have some bumps along the way, but
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody could have foreseen the amount of adversity.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about injuries. Everybody has injuries, but
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: it's it's like the types of you know, blood cloths,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: losing your you're arguably your best player to blood clots
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: before training camp really even starts like that's different than jeez,
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 4: you know, we lost Tour to a concussion. Devastating from Miami.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: I'm not making light of it, but devastating what happened.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: Like he was on the field and he got hit
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: and he and he's had some history and he got concussed,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 4: you know, And it's like you said, it's all your captains, Like,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think most teams probably feel like,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: you know, the leadership of your team is pretty important.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: And to lose Dugger and Pappers and you know, for
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 4: different reasons, and then you know Andrews and all the
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: you know, Bentley, all those key guys. That's that's like
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: I understand teams have as many and more injuries, but
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: those are really specific injuries that really hurt right down
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: the middle, like what supposed to be like the strength
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: of your team center, inside, linebacker, safeties.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: Right in the middle, and a lot of coaches will
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: tell you build from the middle out. But we're excited
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: here on PP and the deuce to be joined by Evan.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Lazar has turned has turned all right, Evan's back. In practice,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: I'll be playing the part of Frank Kersch here.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: Asking Evan smells like outside. You smell like the fall.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: It's like a fault, like no, no, no, no, you
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: smell like you just came in from outdoors, like.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: Beach, like beach. Follow Well, what were you doing out there.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 18: I was rolling around in the leaves like I was
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 18: eight years old.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: No, uh, this is weird. This is I I don't
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: even know what sorry as you weird question. So, Evan,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: what did you see out there?
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 18: So, some good news, some bad news for the Patriots
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 18: at practice. I'll start with the bad. No, Kyle Dugar
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 18: still he still thought that was going to be the
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 18: good He's still not out there. And no Remondre Stevenson
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 18: who left Sunday's game with a helmet to the calf
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 18: like a s I said calf in post game, and
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 18: so he's not out there today for the Patriots at practice.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 18: The good news is that the offensive line seems like
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 18: it made it through healthy, so maybe we'll get some
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 18: continuity up front on the offensive line. And the really
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 18: good news is that Drake May has taking all the
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 18: first team.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: Round surprised that he's any of the other and that
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: was a really good news.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 18: But uh, you know, some some things that maybe we'll
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 18: all share off the air that I don't know if okay,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 18: you know right now I'm trying to Yeah, but some
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 18: interesting things happened.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Well, what would you say was the move that's a
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: little early finish sorry, yeah, I mean really passed as
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 18: Pads on pads on Wednesday seems to be the theme
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 18: under Mayo. It seems like that's the way that's going
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 18: to be for the foreseeable future. Maybe they start winning
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 18: some games, maybe he gives them, gives them a reprieve.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 18: But right now, pads on Wednesday is an automatic. It's
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 18: so far. And the mood was, I mean, this media contingent.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 18: I don't know if you guys already talked about this,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 18: but this was like Brady Day level people. There was
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 18: a lot of today, a lot of people, good crowd,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 18: good crowd, out of practice, nice weather.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: So it was it was an interesting day. So there
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: was no grousing. No there there is no grousing at all. No,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: there is no grousing at all.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: This was all good grousing, placement.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Happy. We were looking for all the big jay journalists
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: who come down like on these days and that's the
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: hard questions, but there weren't any of those.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: It was just they also have the voice.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hi, Jerrod Rush in the back.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: Uh, what would you say to the fans that demands
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: that Jacoby Brissetts, it remains the starter.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: That's good Paul got around the blox a few times. Evan,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I was saving this email for when you got in.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: So this is from David Hingham, I said over the
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: past this is the first time, longtime listener, first time emailer,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: I said. Over the past few years, Fred has made
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: a point of calling out how balance and fair you
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: collectively are in your approach to covering the team. I
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: agree this recent recent Evans situation and how you've all
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: responded the ups and downs is a cost of doing business.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: You all have the best intentions. There's no better way
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: to honor Evan and show my support than buying you
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: all lunch so you can take a break from when
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: pull Paul's food gets there.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: WHOA wow?
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: So theres Matt write that down Jersey in order of yes,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: I appreciate, So Evan you were there. Just what do
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: you think of the of the press conference today with
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: with Mayo and Drake.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 18: Yeah, for that matter, don't forget about your shirt.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: I would say.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 18: The biggest thing that I keep hearing about this was
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 18: that knee jerk reaction like this wasn't the plan. They're
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 18: only doing this because they're one and four and there's
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 18: some bad publicity around the team and they're just trying to,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 18: you know, get some some juices, you know, some marketing
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 18: juices out of it. And I gotta be honest, I
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 18: just I don't really see it that way, and I
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 18: don't think that's what Grod Mayo said either. And I
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 18: think a lot of people to me are kind of
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 18: speaking out of both sides of their mouths. Because the
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 18: games go on and then on Mondays, all I hear
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 18: on Paul's shows for eight straight hours is how awful
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 18: the team is and how Girod doesn't know what he's doing,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 18: and they have no offer offence and the AVP stinks
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 18: and the passing offense stinks, and now we're gonna put
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 18: the you know, put Drake may in there to try
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 18: to make all of that better. And now that's the
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 18: wrong move too. So it's like the guy can't win,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 18: Like if he doesn't play Drake may then he gets
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 18: killed every week because they're not playing well on Sundays
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 18: and they're losing games and they're not scoring any points.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 18: If he does play Drake May, well, you can't you
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 18: can't put him into this situation. This is what are
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 18: they doing.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 4: I had that rant in the first ten minutes. I
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: was like, you know, what are they waiting for? What
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: are they doing? They can't move, they can't move the ball,
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: they have no offense. Just put May in there. Drake
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: May is the starting quarterback? What happened to the plan?
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 10: Like?
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 4: Why are we rushing it? Why against Houston? He's gonna
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 4: get hurt? Like and I don't know how they could win.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: I really don't know how they can win this one.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 4: There's no perfect time to make this move right.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 18: And the other thing you just mentioned Houston. I'm hearing
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 18: so much about how terrible of a matchup this is
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 18: against Houston. If Drake May gets broken because of one game,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 18: his very first start in his NFL career, and he's
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 18: already a lost cause because he saw a good pass
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 18: rush in his open his first.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: Guy had a great point about how he thinks Houston
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: could be a really good game to get under his belt.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: Let Mike was just saying, this is a team that
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: is going to probably be a contender in the FCV.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: While if you're gonna if you're serious about getting winning
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, getting in the super Bowl, this is
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: a team you're gonna have to probably be beat it.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: Same and wouldn't that be like beneficial if this guy
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: that you want to put you a quarterback for the
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: next ten years, the Houston Texans more than likely going
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: to be a player in the AFC for I don't know,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: let's just say five years. Yeah, right, what's wrong with that?
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: What's wrong with that is Bob I.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 18: Used to say, Well, it's just so we all are
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 18: in agreement that last week against Miami would have been
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 18: fine for him to play his first game problem, which
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 18: means that he was going to play Houston this week,
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 18: right and ready then and then we're all.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: It would have been his second game under his belt, right.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 18: And then we all are in agreement that next week
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 18: against Jacksonville would be okay too, because you know they
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 18: it's in London, and they're not a good defense, and this,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 18: that and the other thing. So what you're really whittling
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 18: it down to is that one game against the Texans
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 18: is going to derail his entire NFL career. And if
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 18: that's the case, then he's not the guy. Like if
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 18: he gets broken from one game, then you're in. Then
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 18: you didn't draft the game, Yeah, And I just kind
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 18: of that's just frustrating because, like you know, I can't win.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 7: You can't win.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 18: And I thought what he said today about look at
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 18: it's a results based business. Basically he said, we're in
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 18: a winning league and right now we're one and four,
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 18: and the guys in the locker room.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: Want to win.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 4: And that was basically the crux of what I was trying.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 18: To say last week before I've lost my mind, And
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 18: that's exactly what I was getting at, was that at
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 18: some point, the eye and the sky don't lie, like
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 18: whether it's on the practice field or it's in the
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 18: games on Sundays. You can't go in there with the
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 18: straight face and then continue to tell people that this
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 18: that Jacoby resect gives you the best chance to win
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 18: when everybody behind the scenes knows what's happening at practice
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 18: and knows what's happening in the games. At some point,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 18: like Gerrodmeo said, Drake May gives us the best chance
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 18: to win.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: And that point is now what was going on in
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: the locker room. I didn't get in there. Who who
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: got interviewed?
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 18: There was a lot of interviews obviously on the offensive
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 18: side of the ball, as you could imagine, and uh,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 18: you know, it was. I thought it was the same.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 18: I'm trying not to be too careful about, you know,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 18: my opinions on locker rooms right now, but I thought
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 18: it was all positive messaging coming out of the locker
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 18: room in respect to both quarterbacks. You know, if they
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 18: had stuck with Brissette, it seems like the guys would
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 18: have been behind that. Yeah, but they are also excited
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 18: about what's to come.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 4: With uh Jacoby around it all. He was did he speak? No, No,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 4: he did not. He did not.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 18: But you know, one of the things I think that
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 18: really stands classy guy, really classy guy. And one of
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 18: the things that stands out to me about him is
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 18: that it seems as though just being out of practice
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 18: briefly like his role as mentor, he has not stopped
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 18: fulfilling that role.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, Drake said that. Yeah.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: Do you think there's impressive relief a little bit for
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette of just like getting your doors beaten in
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: for five straight weeks and being like, oh God, thank god,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: I can just have a weekly take to gather myself.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: You know, I think he wants to play.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: Probably that's how the nflers are question here from Cole
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: on Cape Cod. Uh, is this not what we expected
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: the season to be. The team is super young, a
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: whole new staff, tons of adversity. Everyone knew this season
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: from the beginning was not going to be a deep
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: playoff run, even playoff team. I think we need to
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: spin the light here and see see it in the
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: aspect of this team is super young. They're gaining invaluable
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: experience and setting a foundation for the future. All of
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: our captains are down, Okay, cool, so who steps up?
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: There's so much opportunity for the young guys and staff
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: that we have to learn and set a foundation for
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: the future. Face the adversity now and build a team
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: for the future. I mean, I kind of generally agree,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: but it's it's been a lot.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: It's been like more than I even expected of. I
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: couldn't argue with any of the facts that he just
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: put forth. I just think you're glossing over, like, yeah,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: I think we all kind of expected to not be good.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: Did you expect him not to be able to score
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 4: at all?
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: You know, And yeah I get it. They they got younger.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 4: They because they were one of the oldest teams in
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 4: the league. You know, not every year of the last
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 4: five years, but among the last five years, and they
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 4: over they overturned some of that and they got a
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: little bit younger. They kept the entire draft class. But
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 4: how many of those guys are really playing important roles?
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: You know, we talked about some of those guys toward
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: the bottom, you know, Polkis and now May's in there,
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 4: Wallace and rob and Robinson's been a starter for you.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: You know, Wallace is hurt, he's not playing, Baker's inactive
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 4: every week, Bell's in active most weeks, dials a special
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: team or so like, you're not getting a tremendous amount
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: out of those young guys, you know, the rookies, I
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: should say, not the young you know, like Mapu came in,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: second year guy, he's a young guy. Played the whole
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: game the other day.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: So Pettis played a little bit too. I mean he got,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: you know, some opportunities. That's just what I would hope
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: is that some of these guys take advantage of those
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: and and like to the emailer's point, take advantage blossom
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, you weren't expecting
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: del Pettis to maybe be that third safety, but you know,
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: maybe there's something there I don't I'm just don't using
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: them as well.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 18: I feel like that email is z accurate now, like,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 18: now that Drake May is playing, I'm still not expecting
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 18: them to all of a sudden go on a ten
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 18: game winning streak and made the playoffs. So now we
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 18: can sort of grade it out as is their progress,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 18: is there upward trajectory to the offense and to his
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 18: play and all that kind of stuff, and not necessarily
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 18: harp so much on wins and losses. I think what
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 18: was going on in the first five games is just
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 18: that it was like a road to nowhere. You know,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 18: they weren't playing Drake, they weren't scoring on offense, they
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 18: weren't competitive in a lot of these games.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 4: If it's the same exact game Sunday, you'll feel better, Yeah, right,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: even if they like if they lose fifteen to ten,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: but you know you'd feel better about it.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so long a stream doesn't get hurt.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: Right, as long as he played and you got hurt
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: because I love the road to nowhere. Comment like, if
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: it's a road to nowhere, at least you're getting your
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: quarterback his feet. Well, like, if we're not going to
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: move the ball, then why not play the rookie quarterback?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: You know, and it's like every single rep hass value,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: like every single play has some kind of value to
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: him of experience or you know, just playing against these defenses,
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: playing in different locations. I mean, that's that's the biggest thing.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: For me is just you know, the rookies.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 18: I mean, there's just so much talk about like the
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 18: why now and what's what's the point in such a
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 18: terrible situation. They have one hundred and nineteen passing yards
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 18: a game through five weeks. One hundred and nineteen like that's.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: You know, that ranks my probably close to the bottom
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: of the thirty two. That's not NFL offense.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 18: Yeah, so when you look at some of these other
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 18: players that are around the quarterback, you can't go through
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 18: an entire season like that.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: That's fair, You really just can't. Christ new Hampshire says
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: the sickle on me wants the Jets to hire Bill.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: The chaos that would erupt would be wildly entertaining. The
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: Bill simps versus the Bill haters would be so much.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: Football is about entertainment. Let us enjoy ourselves. Chaos is fun.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of agree I don't think Bill simps the Billuminati.
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  Speaker 4: The Billuminati, that's my that's my new one.
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  Speaker 1: The bill Uminati. Yeah, they're God bless them though. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's you know, it's a new faction. They just
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  Speaker 1: formed in this past year. You know, you didn't really
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  Speaker 1: hear much from those guys. I mean, I guess you did.
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  Speaker 1: They were more though the anti media defend the Wall,
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  Speaker 1: the wall anti media against you know them saying that
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  Speaker 1: they didn't like Bill's press conferences and now it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: everything was was better last year, which I take issue
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  Speaker 1: with Bridge. Uh did you hear this one from Spi
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  Speaker 1: and Fresno? Obviously, psych for the Drake, a lot is
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  Speaker 1: on the kids shoulders. Ideally, Mayo at Hall would have
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  Speaker 1: succeeded better in establishing a foundation for success, but they haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Are you concerned that Mayo's regime hasn't been very successful
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  Speaker 1: so far? Or maybe to ask it differently, given what
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  Speaker 1: you've seen thus far, how many games will you give
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  Speaker 1: Mayo to write the ship before you really doubt his
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  Speaker 1: coaching ability?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean I think that's kind of unfair, like
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  Speaker 4: we're just we're just getting started here now. I mentioned
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  Speaker 4: about a half hour ago about kind of the in
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  Speaker 4: game mistakes that we've seen. I don't want to see
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  Speaker 4: those continue to get repeated. That would that would cause me, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that would cause me some concern, that would sort of
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  Speaker 4: rattle my confidence a little bit. But it's five games. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: Now you're just sort of getting to what you want
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  Speaker 4: to see, right with the with the new quarterback, Let's
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  Speaker 4: kind of see how it unfolds before we worry about
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  Speaker 4: putting a ticking clock on it.
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  Speaker 1: I also just look at now.
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  Speaker 18: To me, now it really begins for Alex van Pelt,
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  Speaker 18: like what you have the quarterback now that you want
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  Speaker 18: it in there? Who has all the physical talent in
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  Speaker 18: the world, and not even just from a fundamental standpoint
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  Speaker 18: like footwork and all that kind of stuff, Like show
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  Speaker 18: me something like you schematically, show show me something, Show
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  Speaker 18: me what you got. You know, what is it that
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  Speaker 18: you envisioned when you drafted Jake May, Drake May and
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  Speaker 18: the and the April. You can't tell me that him
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  Speaker 18: and Ben McAdoo haven't been thinking about what are we
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  Speaker 18: gonna call?
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  Speaker 4: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: How are we gonna run this offense?
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  Speaker 4: Like what's the design of the offense gonna be?
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  Speaker 7: Like? Now?
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  Speaker 18: We get to really see what is it that they
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  Speaker 18: had this vision with Drake and can van Pelt live
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  Speaker 18: up to it? Like is does he have the chops
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  Speaker 18: to live up to it?
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  Speaker 1: Is there one thing you would say, just off the
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  Speaker 1: top of your head of that you think Alex van
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  Speaker 1: Pelt should do maybe a little differently with Drake may now.
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  Speaker 4: In there pistol?
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, I really feel strongly that they need to operate
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  Speaker 18: instead of operating from true under center in the run game,
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  Speaker 18: is putting him in the pistol like he was in
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  Speaker 18: North Carolina And you see that in different places in
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  Speaker 18: the NFL now too, because that's that, to me, is
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  Speaker 18: a compromise, Like he might not be one hundred percent
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  Speaker 18: comfortable yet with running under center. We saw some ups
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  Speaker 18: and downs with it in the preseason and in training camp.
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  Speaker 18: So let's compromise and we can still run a lot
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  Speaker 18: of the same under center plays that we would run traditionally.
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  Speaker 18: Let's put him in the pistol like Miami does, like
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  Speaker 18: Tennessee is doing with Will Levis, like Atlanta does, Like
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  Speaker 18: there's so many teams that do this across the league now.
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  Speaker 18: And if they come out on Sunday and all their
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  Speaker 18: under center players are now out of the pistol. I'd
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  Speaker 18: give him all sorts of flowers for that, Like, that's innovative.
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  Speaker 4: And you might disagree with this, but the whole Stevenson thing,
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  Speaker 4: if that happens, that might be a blessing in disguise
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  Speaker 4: if he's maybe a little banged up, because I think
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  Speaker 4: Gibson's better suited for that to run out of that
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  Speaker 4: than steven Yeah, you know, I mean it's probably not
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  Speaker 4: a huge difference, but yeah, I like Remondre like running
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  Speaker 4: you know, that's the under center runs. I like him
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  Speaker 4: better moving forward, whereas I think Gibson's probably a little
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  Speaker 4: bit maybe quicker and can operate with that.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's interesting to me. Like if they if they
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  Speaker 4: change the way they run the ball for Drake, may
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  Speaker 4: you know, like you don't necessarily that's not that wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: be the first thing that comes to mind. So that's
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  Speaker 4: a different thing.
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I know we don't have much much
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  Speaker 18: time left, but just the mechanics of the pistol is
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  Speaker 18: basically the same as running it from under center, except
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  Speaker 18: obviously the quarterback's catching the snap instead of being under center.
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  Speaker 18: You can still add gaps onto the line of scrimmage
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  Speaker 18: because the back is behind the quarterback, and the quarterback
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  Speaker 18: can also still turn his back to the defense and
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  Speaker 18: play action fake out of it, and you can run
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  Speaker 18: quarterback option out of it too. So there's just all
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  Speaker 18: sorts of different things that you can do out of
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  Speaker 18: the pistol that don't exist in an an under center.
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  Speaker 18: But he's a traditional under center guy, so is he
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  Speaker 18: willing to pivot out to that?
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