Latest / Success Story with Scott Clary / Lessons - Love The Problem, Not The Solution | Uri Levine - Author, Entrepreneur, and Disruptor
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- 0:00In this lessons episode, you will discover powerful insights on navigating startup failures
- 0:05and finding true purpose in entrepreneurship. We explore how identifying a real problem and
- 0:09staying committed to it can create a roadmap for success, even when facing setbacks.
- 0:14Learn how to assess when it's time to pivot or let go and why falling in love with the problem,
- 0:19not the solution is key to building lasting impact.
- 0:32And let's ask you something about about failures because you mentioned something very important
- 0:36failing fast. So in that in that startup that failed, how did you know when it was time to
- 0:42call it? How do you fail fast? How did you fail fast? So let's separate between
- 0:49shutting down a company and failures or errors or mistakes throughout the journey.
- 0:58Because the journey is very important in the sense that you have everything that you would
- 1:06have in your roadmap. For me, it's a list of experiments that you're going to conduct and you
- 1:12will try with the first one that you think that is going to work and you will end with the first
- 1:18one that is actually working. There is a nice story that I heard about LinkedIn. I don't know how
- 1:24it is but for a second I would say let's assume for a second that it's true and if it's not true,
- 1:30then assume that it is true for the sake of the discussion. When LinkedIn started, they actually
- 1:38had 30 features that they wanted to develop and they basically said this is the minimum product
- 1:45and when they started to meet investors, everyone told them that 30 features is way too long and
- 1:49they need to reduce that list to less than that and they ended up with a list of 10 features that
- 1:54they said this is we cannot even launch the product without those 10 features. Obviously,
- 2:01LinkedIn started and eventually they were becoming public and then acquired by Microsoft and then
- 2:08becoming public again but the first time that they went public, how many of those 10 features
- 2:15they actually developed? And the answer is one, just one. So in that sense, they were lucky that
- 2:22they figure out the first feature that they need to develop at the beginning. I don't know how
- 2:26true this story is but for the sake of the discussions, let's assume that it is.
- 2:32The roadmap is eventually a list of features that you are going to develop.
- 2:38In each one of them has an objective to figure out product market fit and if they do, then
- 2:44the product development is done and if they're not, then you try another one.
- 2:50And that is the important part of the failures. So you don't stick with something that doesn't
- 2:55work. You keep on trying, you keep on trying different things. For the question, when do you know
- 3:01that it's time to shut down a company? Well, you eventually fall in love with the problem
- 3:09and once you start to build your team, this is your mission in life. You will never give up and
- 3:15never giving up. Reservance is the most important behavior for an entrepreneur. Not necessarily
- 3:22of a CEO, but for an entrepreneur, they don't give up. And if you would ask me, how do you know
- 3:29that it's time to give up? So number one, you never know. You don't know. Number two, I would add
- 3:34my advice that is basically saying, look, if one of the two following is happened, then you should
- 3:41give up. One is that the problem disappears. The first startup that we started in year 2000,
- 3:50it called Access Mobile and what we tried to do is actually provide an email access through
- 3:56WAP phones, right? So very, very long time ago. And the problem disappeared as soon as Blackberry
- 4:05started, right? So there was sort of a very different approach for the solution, which made our
- 4:11solution irrelevant. And to a certain extent, I would say the problem disappeared. So if problem
- 4:16disappears, you should quit. The other reason is if the team is not right and you're unable to
- 4:25change it. If you are the CEO, then you should be able in a position to change that, but in many
- 4:30cases, you don't. And then you end up with a place that might have the right mission, but not the
- 4:37right BNA. And you don't want to stay in a place like that. So this is time to shut it down.
- 4:44These are the only two reasons that I can figure out why you should quit. And in general, I would
- 4:55say look at entrepreneurs, they don't keep up. I know that's something. So I think that what I value
- 5:02that lesson so much because the concept of never giving up, it does conflict with the concept of
- 5:11of failing quickly. So it's good to have an understanding of what your organization is growing into
- 5:18what you're, again, the problem you're trying to solve is it's still there. And then the other
- 5:23point you mentioned the right people, but let's talk about, let's talk about the problem, right? I
- 5:28mean, you wrote a book. So you wrote, you know, I would say like, yeah, and I'm, I'm, I'm stopping you
- 5:35for a second. Okay. Yeah. Single is the sole right. When you go into this journey, there is a problem
- 5:42that you're trying to address, right? And, and this is becoming your mission, right? So for a second,
- 5:49I would say if the mission is right and the team is right, then you shouldn't give up. If one of
- 5:55them is going away, then you should start to consider if both of them, then definitely you should
- 5:59consider a token of giving up. But the, the journey of failures is not about the essence of the
- 6:06startup. The essence of the startup is about the problem that trying to solve the value that they
- 6:10are about to create. And it's about the way to get there. And the way to get there is a journey of
- 6:18failure. Understood. I understand. Okay. I want to understand the, the title of the book that you
- 6:27wrote, fallen love with the problem, not the solution. So we're, we're dancing around this now,
- 6:33but speak to me about what it means to truly fall in love with the problem. What problem did you
- 6:38fall in love with when you built ways? I hate traffic chips. It's a good one. It's because you know,
- 6:45end of the day, I, and I'm pretty sure that you have, have met many entrepreneurs. They all
- 6:55have a starting point that has, that touched them on a personal level, right? And, and not all,
- 7:03but most of them. And in many cases, this is about frustration. So you're running to something and
- 7:08you ended up being frustrated and then you tell yourselves, no, no, no, this is something that I
- 7:13am going to change. There is no way that this is how it works. And this is the key driver for most
- 7:19of my startups is running into situations that they tell myself, wait a minute, am I the only one
- 7:25that is getting frustrated because of that? And then you start to discuss that with or speak with
- 7:31other people until you realize that this problem is real or at least the perception of the problem
- 7:37is real. And so for me, you know, the journey is always about starting with a problem. So finding
- 7:44a problem, a big problem, something that it's worth solving, something that the world will become
- 7:49a better place if we solve that. And then the next thing that you really would like to do is ask
- 7:54yourself, so who has this problem? Now, if you happen to be the only person on the planet
- 8:00with this problem, then I would say, go to a shrink. It's much cheaper than building a startup.
- 8:07But if a lot of people actually have this problem, then go and speak with those people and understand
- 8:12their perception of the problem and only then build a solution. Now, if you follow this path
- 8:19and your solution works, it's guaranteed that you're creating value. If you start with a solution,
- 8:26you might be building something but nothing that no one cares. And that's really not a good idea.
- 8:33So when I say falling in love with the problem, what it really means is start with the problem,
- 8:41but there is way more into that. The problem then remains the north star of your entire journey.
- 8:49And every day you're asking yourself, if I'm making a progress towards addressing this problem.
- 8:54And so if the problem was for way down, the reason that we start is that we hate traffic jams.
- 9:01We evolved that into a mission to help drivers to avoid traffic jams. Because the solution for
- 9:08the problem is very easy, avoiding the problem, right? So getting rid of the problem, problem
- 9:13disappears or we are avoiding that or overcome that. And that makes it easy. As long as you
- 9:19cheap that as the north star of your company, then you increase the likelihood of being successful.
- 9:24And you increased the likelihood by basically saying, I know where I'm going. I don't know what's
- 9:31the next step or I do know what's the next step, but I have no idea what's the step after next,
- 9:36but I know where I'm going. The other part of it is that it makes your story so much easier to be told
- 9:45that your marketing is becoming easier. Your fundraising is becoming easier.
- 9:52Everything is creating or the entire story is much easier. Because if I will tell you,
- 9:59you know, I'll have a time machine. We will roll back in 2007. And I will come into this
- 10:04podcast. Well, that podcast wasn't here. I think in 2000. It wasn't. But I get the point.
- 10:10But that assumed that we are. And I will tell you, I'm building an AI crowdsource navigation system
- 10:19then you don't really care. But if I will tell you, I'm helping you to avoid traffic jams and
- 10:23all of a sudden you do care. And so the story is easier to be told. And usually story,
- 10:31you know, when you tell a story about the problem, then there is an emotional engagement for many
- 10:38of the people in particular, if they have experienced similar problem or the same problem.
- 10:44So falling in love with the problem, essentially, increase your likelihood of being successful,
- 10:49increase the likelihood of becoming a market leader through two main things, right? The North Star
- 10:56and therefore the mission of the companies is is clearer and easier and remains the
- 11:01same throughout the entire journey. And the story that tells is much easier. Thanks for tuning in.
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