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Rams Get Trounced, Drake Maye on Fraud Watch and WNBA "Sex Symbol" Nonsense · The Regulars

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The NFL is back and everyone's bad at football.
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LSU somehow skirted any type of punishment.
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And of course, we're having technical difficulties. Also,
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Shohei Ohtani's broken. Fuck. Tanya, how you
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doing? Great to see you. Happy Friday. This is the worst thing
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that's ever happened on 9/11. Cheers. Jesus.
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Like, no, we're trying really hard not to crash out right now.
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I need you guys to understand that, like, it's taking every single,
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every single thread of patience in our bodies not to crash
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out because this was, this was worst case scenario, like I said. Yeah,
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we, we spent 40 minutes. Maybe this is the second worst thing that's
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ever happened on 9/11. Maybe. I think that's fair. I think that's very fair.
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Um, genuinely though, uh, in regards to the fact that it is 9/11, I suppose
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we should acknowledge that.
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Um, not great. Wasn't a great time. No, it was not. I was
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a freshman in high school. Been 25 years. We were exactly the same age,
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right? Just starting high school. And, um, it's, uh, it's been
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25 years of like watching the country fall
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apart since. Yeah, we couldn't have known it when we were, you know,
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14-year-old kids. No, no, we had no idea that, that our, that our true,
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our childhood really was over. Yeah, so Uh,
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you know, we're drinking, we're drinking to that. I watched the new Netflix documentary
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on it. I, I took a long time off from
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9/11 documentaries. Yeah, because it was like, what? I can't— first
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of all, I can't do propaganda. No, I get it. Oh boy. You know,
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and then for a while it just like, it seemed sort of repetitive. Not that
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I didn't want to hear people's stories, but like, you know, um, but this
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one, this new one on Netflix, I think does it really, really well. I learned
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some stuff about what has happened with our military and what happened
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after we pulled out of Afghanistan, what the new generation of American
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soldiers are dealing with in the— in sort of like the,
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the kids who don't remember 9/11 or weren't even alive for it that are still,
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you know. So they do— they go all the way through it, and I think
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they did a really, really beautiful job of tying together the trauma of the event
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and not underplaying it in what we went through as Americans, but also
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understanding the imperialism that we
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sort of invited the rest of the world
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to like suffer from on our behalf, and then what happened in the aftermath,
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right? So they did a really good job. So I think that it's like,
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it's a— if you're a documentary person, then check it out. Pretty well done.
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I will definitely check it out on that. That— yeah, I remember it's so funny,
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we were talking about it before the show started. I remember certain things like vividly,
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like really, really vividly. Yeah. And, and I'm not positive
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that that I saw what I saw type of thing, you know? Like, I remember
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memories layer a lot of experiences over each other over time, and collective memories,
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right? Completely. It's like, it's almost like, it's almost like a confirmation bias from other
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people. It's like, yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I saw it too. Yeah. And that
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footage might not actually exist, and it's just something that we've all played. It exists.
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I think that's why we think we remember it, because it's so like in our
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memories now. Like, you can see this happening live on television.
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Yeah, there were some people who spotted it live. Do we— did we? I don't—
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I don't even know anymore. Yeah, I feel like I did. I feel like I
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did too. I remember vividly seeing the second plane hit, but it might
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not have been that. It might have just been a replay of something else.
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And, you know, keep in mind, 3 hours behind over here in Los Angeles.
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I was in Santa Monica and I was— it was like 6:04. Yeah, we would
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have— I was debating not going to school. And keep in mind, I was in
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school for all of one week in high school at that point. We had been
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through— I think we were on our second week of high school. Yeah, legitimately second
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week of high school. And, you You know, my high school in Santa Monica is
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huge. There's like 4,000 students that go there. So I was already
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feeling overwhelmed. And now this is happening. And it was funny because— well, not funny.
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I apologize. It was weird because I went to school that day. Now, my high
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school was the size of most small colleges. And it was empty. I was
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like one of what felt like 400 kids at the school, which 400
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kids at a school is probably a lot to most people. But in this particular
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school— Why did you— how come you went to school and everybody else didn't?
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Was it because your parents were working? And so you just got yourself to school
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and realized— I asked them, should I go to school? And they're like,
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yeah. And so they're like, I don't give a fuck. Like, who knows?
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School's not canceled. So I went and it became a— it was a very
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weird day. Yeah. Yeah. I truly did not know at the time that the world
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had drastically changed forever. Yeah. Well, there was a lot more stuff that unfolded because
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there was other crashes. There was. It was— it was a pretty crazy— and there
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was like a lot of— there was a lot of fear here at the time
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because people were like, well, are they going to come? All the big cities,
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Los Angeles, Chicago, like all that whole thing. It was supposed to be going— it
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was a Boston flight that was supposed to be going to LA too, I believe,
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that Flight 11, that original one. I don't know what the second one was.
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I'm not sure. Either way, they both came from Logan and they were supposed to
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be going to LA. So yeah, um, but a lot of— I grew up
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in Massachusetts. I know a ton of New York people and Massachusetts people who were
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really directly affected by it. So I always just try to,
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you know, send that out there. Um, friends and
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acquaintances who've gone over to the Middle East and died in the wars
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that were started after this. And my, my husband has a massive tattoo
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on his leg for his high school best friend who was
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killed by an IED over there as a,
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as a medic. And so, like, lots, lots of people's
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lives have been affected beyond just that day. And a whole generation of kids has
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grown up in the aftermath of it. So, well, we want to, we want to,
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of course, acknowledge anybody who was affected by that day and also, you know,
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acknowledge the great work that has been done this week, specifically that speech by Jon
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Stewart yesterday and the files that have been released and just You know, just everyone
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that was affected, especially first responders who have been dealing with the aftermath of
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it with their health issues and everything. I hope you get all of the everything
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you possibly could need to either get healthy or get the—
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or whatever. Just literally whatever. Just what a tragic, insane time
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it was. And, and we're also— we should also say for the record, because we
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are, we are that kind of podcast, we're not,
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we're not down with Islamophobia. Oh, God, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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Because here's the thing about that. That's, that's starting to pop back up. I'm glad
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you said that. Oh, start to pop up. It is out. It is flat out
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out there. We like, we're watching it with the Mondani shit, like from everybody,
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whatever the fuck. That weird, most Islamophobic 9/11
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that I, that I have. Other question. Remember since like the
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first couple? Yeah. Like it's really, you know what really upsets me the most is
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the phrase never forget. You know why? Because people have changed. Never forget what that
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actually means. Never forget what's supposed to be. Never forget the first responders,
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those who died and gave their lives to try to save so many people and
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tragically were lost. And of course, the people that were already tragically lost. Yeah.
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It's not never forget those who did this to us. And that's what you—
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a lot of you people have done. And really, I don't— there was,
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you know, I don't— I don't— that's not— that's not Muslims.
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That's not Islam. That's not— those are just terrorists. And that
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is what it is. It was just, uh, yeah, horrible. And let's— let's hope for
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a better future that is only going to last for 10 more years before AI
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kills us. Yep. Based on what we've learned this week. Oh yeah, Mocha, we only
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have 10 more years. 10 more years, buddy. Yeah, so don't worry about it.
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We're toiling away for 10 more. You're not even gonna make it to
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the age that Cody and I are right now. Then the fucking Cylons are coming
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for you, bro. So sorry. I'll be cybernetically enhanced.
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Oh, that's a nice way of going about it. If you could be cybernetically
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enhanced, like you didn't have a body anymore, but you were still your brain.
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Yeah, but like you had a robot body or something. Sure. You, you down
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for that? No. No, it's not all bad.
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No. What if you have all the same sensations? What if you can, like,
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still— like, you're a robot that can still fuck? Imagine cybernetic sports.
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No way. There's— I can't imagine. There's got to be a way. If I can't—
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if I don't have a functioning penis, I don't think I want to do this.
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Yeah, I don't want to be— What if you have a super penis?
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What if you have— what if I— what if— what if— what if Mocha and
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I have super penises? Well, you know what?
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That goes for every body part. For me personally. What if you have a super
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vagina? What if I have a super penis? Maybe you can. What? It's robot
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world. And we can all switch. We could switch. Oh, maybe. And maybe
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we could all actually get past some shit. By the way, congratulations, Dallas, for your
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Grindr network to fall— fail yet again. Oh, did it?
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Yeah. For the— I don't know if you heard, there's a Republican convention going there
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right now and it's— oh yeah, it's totally going to— it's going to— Grindr goes
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nuts. Yeah, it did. Grindr goes nuts. And you know what? I wish
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they would all just come out and embrace who they are. Would they? Would really—
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world would be so much easier. This whole— all of this mess wouldn't be happening.
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All right, speaking of messes, let's get into headline number 1, Cody.
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Let's get right into it. Rams, what the fuck was that? We had
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2 football games already, which is why I'm still— again, I'm gonna say it one
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more time— so pissed we don't have a fucking live show right now. But anyways,
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uh, the— we'll start with Thursday Night Football, the most recent game,
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49ers versus Rams in Australia. The first game ever in
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Australia, the first NFL game ever in Australia. The Australians were loving it. They were
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loving the vibe. There was a good time. The Niners
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had been there. So not only did the Niners get in, get themselves adjusted
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to the time zone, but they also became the darlings of the area.
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Right. Because they're in Melbourne. So like they became the BFFs with the
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Aussies. We just experienced this all over the country with the World Cup. I was
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getting some flashbacks. Yeah, like awesome flashbacks. Yeah. So like the
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San Francisco, the team and the fans and stuff that were there,
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You know, they just made, I think, a whole new group of fans in Australia.
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They did, really did. Um, meanwhile, the Rams participated
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in an overthinking ritual that I both can relate to and
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judge tremendously. Oh man, I can't wait to talk about this
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because I have, I have a lot of thoughts on this, and I even,
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I even have an excuse for the future of this. Great. Okay, so I'll
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give the quick recap of what happened. The Rams looked
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awful. Awful. This is a team that is, is stacked across the board with,
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as you know, as much talent. I mean, they have some holes, but they have
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everything you need to be a contender. They, they were, of course, the team we
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were talking about who had a reign that we didn't even know existed last year.
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And this reign has been epic. This reign has— it ended before
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it began. And Josh Allen's going to possibly end it. Maybe it ended before
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it began, but so do the Niners. The Niners, when they are healthy, are just
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as talented as, as most teams in the NFL. And what
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we saw was just an absolute, like, demolition of the Rams.
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It was, uh, their biggest loss in, I think,
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3 years. I think there was something like that. Yeah, it was awful. It was
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the lowest scoring game of Matthew Stafford's Rams tenure. Yeah, it was shit.
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He was shit. So the Niners won 35-7. And the— and the— at the
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heart of this, after the whole— after the game and during the game, was everybody
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talking about the same thing, which is that The Rams had this very bizarre plan
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to— for travel. Yeah. Now, to be fair, going— having to go to Australia
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to play a fucking NFL game is brutal. I'm happy for the Australians, but like,
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that fucking sucks. Let's not act like that's like normal. And really
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quick, this is also an in-division rivalry game, and it was a home game for
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the Rams, right? So the Rams lose a home game, so they're like, okay.
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So Sean McVay and his, his team of,
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of McVay people, like, for all of— for all of McVay's
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incredible qualities, he is a little bit ridiculous, as,
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as many are. Um, he overthinks it. He decides that—
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so they've spent about 15 months to 2 years with
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staffers traveling, studying sleep schedules,
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doing all this stuff. And so they do all of that. They've got like all
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these beds set up on the plane so they can all sleep at a specific
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time, and they're going to get them adjusted in, but they're going to stay in
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Los Angeles until 28 hours before the game. Yep.
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I think most everybody on planet Earth was like,
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that's a bad choice. It just— there was no world where any of us
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were buying it. And this is not Monday morning quarterback. Agreed. Like, we all kind
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of were like, there was a part of me that liked it and was more
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intrigued than anything else. But, but I want to explain
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why I like it. And I'm not— we're not there yet. I want to continue.
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All right. So, so they— the Rams
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have— the Niners have been there for a week. They're fully adjusted.
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They're feeling good. They are also, by the way, the delinquents
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of the offseason, right? Jed York, a disaster. Kyle Shanahan, a disaster.
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This team, which is rarely all healthy at the same time, destroyed by
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the— by their power plant practice facility.
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Like, I firmly believe the Rams were going to win 35-7.
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I really thought that. They've got a fake wide receiver that got arrested
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by feds. Wasn't their fault, but it is funny that he was a Niner.
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So funny. And they're finally healthy for the first time like that, that we just
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don't get to see all these— like Trent Williams healthy. Fred Warner's healthy.
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Like, all these dudes are healthy, right? Yes. And that's great.
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Even Christian McCaffrey, all these dudes. Yes. But we've had
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the Rams propaganda in our ear and it was— it was— and I'm part of
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it. I'm part of it. Okay. And I've been— I've been— I've been— I've been
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fucking carrying a Rams flag every single day because I've been excited for this.
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This has been like— I've been legitimately excited for the Rams.
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And when I tell you, they just looked like— they looked like
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a shell of themselves. As bad as the Patriots were in the 4th quarter
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on Wednesday night, which we will talk about, The Rams never even got it going
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enough for us to feel like they might have a chance. Like, it was pretty
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rough. Did it first at like very— at
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very first. You mean like the first play? Like the first quarter,
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it looked like maybe they were gonna start doing it. And once when
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they got that interception, I was like, here they go. And then it was just
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nothing. Well, so what it was was that the— I never thought the Rams
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looked good. I just didn't. We— it was before the 49ers got fully heated up.
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That's more what you're talking about. That is fair. You're right. The second for the
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49ers to heat up, and then as soon as that happened, it like, oh,
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the Rams aren't— it wasn't even a game. And so like Sean
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McVay said, he's, he's doubling down on the fact that the Rams travel plans were
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not the issue. He says, I know there's going to be a lot of narratives
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that appropriately put the blame on me and that then we'll move forward
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the right way. I don't believe the travel plan is why we didn't play well
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enough. I really don't. That's something that I'll always make decisions that I think are
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best for the football team. It's easy in hindsight to say it was a miss,
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but those are responsibilities that I'll take. Okay, well, it sounds like
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you're still not taking the responsibility, but that's fine. Um, my takeaway
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on this is not super harsh on Sean McVay. It's just
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something that I think all coaches— it's a, it's an odd situation
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to be going to Australia. I think that the 49ers had way
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bigger fish to fry and were like, we're gonna fucking fly out there and play
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the goddamn game. They don't have time for this shit. McVay had time to overthink,
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and he had, had, had been overthinking it. And I told the story. Did you
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see my video that I posted last night? I liked it. I was one of
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the many hearts you got. Thank you so much. You're welcome. That's my favorite one.
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I know yours was my favorite one. You didn't even fucking know I watched it.
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I'm never hearting your shit again. I can't tell with all the likes
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I get all the time. It's sometimes I can't see, you know what I mean?
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When Samuel L. Jackson's following you, it's so hard
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to tell. You are. But I— for
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anybody who didn't see, this is an issue that the 2007 Patriots experienced
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heading into the Giants Super Bowl. They had just played the Giants 4
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weeks prior. They were like all over the place. Bill Belichick made
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some choices with their sleeping situation in their hotels and
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keeping them away from their families to keep them really focused and really intense.
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And he thought that that was the plan and that was the way to go.
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And in the aftermath, he was just like, this was,
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this was just not— I fucked up. And the players were tense. They were
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edgy already, right? Like, this is a very tense,
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edgy situation. So this is not me being like McVay trash.
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I'm, you know, great coaches make these mistakes.
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Sometimes I think you're better off having a scandalous
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offseason where you just can't think about anything other than just getting to football and
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then playing like, you know, lights out. Sure, sure, sure. Tell that to Mike Vrabel.
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We'll get to it. Don't worry. Here's the deal. All right. So I have a
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lot of information and personal
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experience for this. So, um, I, I actually liked what the Rams
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did, but not for the reason you think. Like, I was intrigued by this entire
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concept. It really was. I was intrigued by the amount of— I just couldn't— I
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could not find myself doing it. No, no, no, I agree. Like, such a tryhard.
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On, on paper, you would think getting there and getting yourself acclimated is
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the way to go. Yeah, like, we know what works with jet lag. 100%.
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We know that on paper. Yeah, I, I appreciated— and I just want to only
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say I appreciated this outside-the-box thinking. Okay. However,
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17 fucking hours on a plane is 17 hours on a plane. Yeah. I don't
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care what kind of plane you're on. Yeah. Uh, reason why I have personal experience
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in this is because I played in the World Baseball Classic. I went from playing
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spring training in Arizona to having to go immediately play over
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in Korea. 17-hour flight, exact same shit,
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nightmarish type of thing. Having to get on a brand new other side
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of the world sleep schedule on a very short amount of time. We did arrive
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4 days before the tournament, kind of got ourselves acclimated and played.
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Here's what I do like, but here's also a thing I want to
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mention that might not work either. But this is
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why I— this is where I think the thinking really was coming up, and they
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are taking the blame for all this shit for game 1. I do think the
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plane flight had something to do with it. I don't think it's the end-all be-all
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excuse. I think it's a percentage. They all looked like they just got off a
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17-hour flight. They all looked like shit. Myles Garrett had no
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stat. Myles Garrett had no stat. Not a stat. When I posted— so
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I put that in our rundown and I was like, this— I had to double-check
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it. I was posting my NFL stats and I was like, I really need to
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like triple-check that he didn't have a tackle or a like—
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no pressure. It was zeros. It was so alarming
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that I was like, there's no way. Especially because next to it Fred Warner
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looked like he had the game of his fucking life, and I'm like, oh boy,
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right? I'm telling you, nothing. Yeah, nothing in it. Now, he also
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mentioned that his knee still isn't completely right, but guess what? As much as
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I want to say that— playing in the game, you're playing in the game.
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And also, if your knee's not right, I don't think you should have just flown
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17 fucking hours, because guess what? You gotta fly 17
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hours back. So these guys always have something that's not right, and they decide when
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they want to talk about it, when they don't. That's okay. Completely agree. Okay.
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But I'm just saying. Yeah. Now here's what I do
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like about it that might prove to be absolutely fucking
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nothing. Their next game is not until Monday night, the 21st.
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They got a decent amount of time off in between games since they already flew
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back. And I believe they probably already landed here in the States at
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this point. They technically never had to get on a different sleep schedule.
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Technically, I really am saying technically. I mean, so they come
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back and they're, they're kind of going to stay on the same circadian sleep schedule.
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Yeah, or closer to it than— yeah, the Niners do have to
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fly back and then reacclimate a second time.
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Now I think that was the thought process that they might have had
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going like, well, we'll come back and we're just going to stay on the same
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sleep cycle and we'll actually come back, we'll be better for the future games,
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and while the Niners are going to kind of struggle to kind of reacclimate.
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I think that's the overthinking portion. I like the idea
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of it. I don't think any of this fucking works.
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But I will tell you, coming back from Korea the way I did.
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Yeah, it took me a minute to reacclimate to everything
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to get back to the United States. But here's the problem. They got time off.
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Here's the problem, though. This was for them outside
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of each one of their games against, you know, their games against Seahawks. This is
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one of the most important games you're going to play. Completely agree. So that's why
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they prioritize the front end or the back end. You prioritize
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beating the Rams, you prioritize beating the 49ers. Whatever happens
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in week 2, get your shit together. Like I said, right? So that to me
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is like— for— I'm not saying that what you're thinking is, is crazy,
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but what I'm saying is be tired in the United States with a win rather
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than fucking tired in, in Australia and losing. Oh wow,
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you're rested to go in and you're 0-1. I personally
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think this was so much fucking— and you know what the other
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thing I think that caused this? The overthinking of this whole fucking thing, because I
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think they were feeling themselves from last year. Because when they went over to London
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and beat the living shit out of the Jacksonville Jaguars, they did something in front
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of all those goddamn Jaguars fans in London. London loves the Jaguars. I know they
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do. I know they do, for obvious reasons. But yeah, but I gotta make this—
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they beat the fuck out of them over there in London. Yeah, but the reason
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they did it, and I think they were thinking, man, we really got this shit
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figured out, is because that week they spent the entire week training in New York.
20:29
They did not go to London. They played in New— they stayed in the East
20:32
Coast. Trained in the East Coast, flew to London, beat them up, and then came
20:35
right back. So they didn't kind of get off everything. And they think they looked
20:39
at that going like, we understand sleep, let's figure out Australia
20:43
now. And I think they really thought they had something here. Gang, I hate to
20:47
break it to you, but as, as good as the Jaguars were last year,
20:49
they're not the fucking 49ers. They're not. And they're not your division
20:52
rivals. They're not. That's— this is Shanahan versus McVay is
20:56
a gauntlet every time. And he already has your number, McVay. Like, well, he has
20:59
for the last 2 seasons. Yep.
21:03
Whereas before that, McVay was kind of rolling against Shanahan,
21:06
but like, not these last couple of years. Yeah. And that's, that's the issue.
21:09
Now I'm just saying, I think that's where they kind of got a little big
21:13
for their britches. And also the fucking great vibes offseason they just had. I never
21:17
can tell if they're like big on— like, that's the, that's the biggest thing.
21:20
And, you know, we're going to get into the game against the Patriots
21:24
the night before, or the Patriots versus the Seahawks, the Super Bowl rematch.
21:27
But I think sometimes we see these performances
21:31
and we're like, well, were you overconfident? And I just— I
21:35
don't know that it's overconfidence as much as it is you
21:40
cannot replicate the urgency and the, like,
21:43
stress of needing to come in hot. And I think
21:46
that the Niners having a healthy team for the
21:50
first time in a minute with all those electric players
21:55
they had a sense of urgency that, that you can't manufacture, and that's
21:59
a very difficult thing. Listen, dude, I completely agree. I thought this was a huge
22:02
fucking— I didn't think it was a huge mistake at the time. I was just
22:05
kind of more like intrigued. I wanted to wait. The game went on, I was
22:09
like, oh man, I just ate like fucking raw meat. I went in there,
22:11
I'm like, I'm really excited to see how this goes. What if
22:15
the Rams fuck them up? Yeah, nope.
22:18
Way to, way to fuck up and reinvent the wheel. Fucking stupid.
22:22
Didn't work. And I immediately— today I even opened up
22:25
the show talking about it. Like, throw away your fucking Whoop band.
22:29
Yeah, throw away your— all your sleep data is all fucking
22:33
worthless. Yeah. Fred Warner's just been there fucking having,
22:36
having a time for a week and he just kicked you out. He's just been
22:39
drinking Foster's all week waiting for you to come in.
22:42
By the way, you know that my least favorite NFL fan base is the 49ers.
22:46
I'm safe to say this because there's no live— there's no live chat. So like,
22:49
whoever. And I actually have like a lot of good 49ers
22:52
fan followers, but you know how this is. It's a majority thing. It's not like
22:56
that there's not individually awesome fans in every fan base. I, I trolled
23:00
the fuck out. I never troll. I never troll because it never goes well,
23:03
but I had to do it. I was like, Fred Warner's too cool for the
23:06
49ers. I wish he was a Baltimore Raven. Oh dude, how great. They got so
23:10
mad. My girlfriend's a 49er fan, by the way, and that's the worst thing about
23:14
her. Do you know how many men were like this is why women shouldn't talk
23:17
about football. I was like, oh my God, cry, cry, cry,
23:20
crybaby. There's nothing more soft
23:24
as a man to get than like get it like, this is why women—
23:28
you're a fucking bitch. And like, also, I'm sorry,
23:31
I'm, I'm so, so, so sorry to break it to you, but like,
23:34
I've, I've worked with more NFL players than you can name off the top of
23:38
your head. Like, you're such a bummer. Like, you're bumming me out with your whole
23:40
thing. I've seen more NFL players naked than you
23:44
fucking can name. Honestly? Yeah. I hate the fact— I hate that fact that that's
23:47
true. I have as well, in various different situations. Me only in
23:51
one, the showers. Headline number 2. We're going to
23:55
stay in this realm. We're going to just go a night earlier and we're going
23:58
to talk about the Super Bowl rematch between the Patriots and
24:02
the Seahawks. More shit football. This is one of those things where I,
24:06
I went into it kind of assuming the Patriots were going to lose the game.
24:10
I did too. But then And this is how the Patriots have been losing games.
24:14
And it's really infuriating is like they're like, actually,
24:17
no, we can win it. We're, we're about to win it. Never mind.
24:20
Yeah. And that is the worst way if you're like a fan of a team
24:23
to watch, like just lose, just like look kind of crappy the whole time,
24:27
have it like completely not in your possession whatsoever, have no
24:30
way to win it and just fuck it. Why is it like this every time?
24:33
So the Drake Maye factor is a big part of that since
24:37
the playoffs last year where it's just like he kept getting lucky, lucky. I will
24:40
say, what I want on record is that both of these defenses played really
24:44
well. The Patriots defense was great. Their pass rush was
24:49
way better than I expected. Christian Gonzalez played like the best cornerback
24:53
in the NFL, which he got paid to be. He wasn't letting any shit happen
24:56
on his side of the fucking field. The Patriots defense looked great. The Seahawks defense
25:00
looked fucking great. The Seahawks lose Sam Darnold,
25:04
which blows, by the way, like in the 4th play
25:07
of the game. Yeah, it was fucking Sucks. Aaron Rodgers fucking 3 years
25:11
ago, except that was fun. They said his hip muscles are intact.
25:14
Thank God. Good news. By the way, I had that, that exact same thing that
25:18
happened the way his knee got driven, driven the ground with his hip. Same exact
25:21
thing happened to me. And was your hip muscle intact? I got very lucky,
25:25
but I, I had to miss 3 weeks, and I will tell you, it was
25:28
exceedingly painful. Oh my God. Yeah, he's— I mean,
25:31
you land and your knee lands like that and just pushes into your fucking hip
25:35
joint. It's your hips, it's your back, it's your— it's all bad. So I'm—
25:39
I'm— Drew Lock comes in. He— Drew Lock is one of those players
25:42
where like he's like Gardner Minshew or like some of those like Ryan Fitzpatrick where
25:47
you're like, he can play really well and he did play really well. But when
25:51
you are playing Drew Lock instead of Sam Darnold, you now should be winning
25:54
that game. Yeah. And the reality is that there
25:58
were many things wrong in the Patriots approach
26:02
offensively. Again, defensively they were great, but this looked like a team that was
26:06
unprepared. To take on a defense that had just beat them
26:10
in the Super Bowl. They just— the adjustments weren't there. AJ Brown gets hurt.
26:13
That changed the complexion of the offense for them. But also they
26:17
were missing their starting quarterback. So now that if they'd
26:21
lost AJ Brown and they— and the Seahawks still had Sam Darnold,
26:24
that's one thing. They lost their starting quarterback. You lost your starting wide receiver.
26:28
These 2 things are not the same. You got to still win that game.
26:31
Drake Maye throws 3 4th quarter interceptions. He threw 8
26:35
picks all of last season. This is, this is a
26:39
meltdown. One of them is a tip ball. Okay,
26:42
whatever. You can still say like there's still an issue there. But one
26:46
of them, there was a Romeo Doubs drop, right? That was a bad drop.
26:49
It was a bad drop. But also that was informed by the fact that there
26:53
were, they were missed connections between those 2 players the entire
26:56
4th quarter specifically. They had not developed a rapport.
27:00
They're leaning on Rhamondre Stevenson once again. Once again, the play calling sucks.
27:04
They're not going to the tight ends. There's all kinds of shit going on.
27:08
Here's the thing. And my, my, my big question
27:14
for you is like the— I wish it didn't
27:17
always come down to quarterback conversation, but there's a
27:21
lot of tension around the idea that Drake Maye was an
27:25
amazing regular season quarterback against an easy schedule last year. Looked a
27:28
lot less dynamic in the playoffs, makes the Super Bowl,
27:32
isn't— doesn't play well in the Super Bowl, and then doesn't play well today.
27:35
So it's been a minute— or this week, it's been a minute since we saw
27:38
Drake Maye play at that like MVP level, which he was at. Yeah, he was.
27:42
Do you think that this game specifically, in light of the playoffs,
27:47
is like we should be pressing the panic button on Drake Maye?
27:51
Like, are you starting to be like, this guy might not be he might not
27:55
be what we thought he was. Or if it's not that, what are— where
28:00
are you at with Drake Maye? So I've never been a huge Drake Maye guy.
28:03
I'll freely admit that. I do think everyone has
28:06
put him on a semblance of a pedestal that I don't think he necessarily
28:10
deserves to be on. I do think the narrative of the easy
28:15
schedule in the season he had is very real. I mean, he's not doing anything
28:19
to make it— yeah, to make it seem like that wasn't the case. That final
28:22
play of the game. Was something a truly
28:25
terrified rookie would make. And I was blown away by it.
28:29
By it. Like, truly blown away by it. Mainly because it was, what, 3rd and
28:32
5? So you have another down and you're already well in field goal range
28:35
in a 3-point game. It was a fucking— it's baffling. It's a
28:39
football, like, malpractice. Absolutely.
28:43
And absolutely cannot make that. Nothing about that
28:46
was mechanical. Nothing about that was scheme. That was just pure
28:51
fucking panic and you threw it up for no fucking
28:55
reason other than to do it. Time on the clock, field goal.
28:58
I wish I could say anything else. It was fucking insane that
29:02
I watched that happen. Yeah, I— that you would lose your mind if you saw
29:05
that in a high school game. Yeah. That being said, panic— it's
29:10
game 1 of the season. Yeah, he was just in
29:14
the Super Bowl. Sure, I'm gonna get— and you know how it is for the
29:18
first month, of the season. No one plays in the preseason. This is— we're in
29:21
the preseason for the next 4 weeks. Listen, the MVP didn't exactly play great either,
29:24
right? The MVP played like dog shit. In fact, the 2 MVP
29:28
candidates played like dogs. Would you like a fun stat about that?
29:32
I would. Uh, so this is the first time in NFL history
29:36
that the top 2 finishers in the MVP voting the previous season each had their
29:40
team score 10 or fewer points in the season opener. Um, which I— as I
29:44
was watching that, I had a feeling. So when I found that stat, I wanted
29:47
to include it because You and I have talked a ton about the weird conversations
29:51
around quarterbacks, the racism, the dog whistles, the way certain quarterbacks are spoken
29:55
about when they succeed, when they fail. You know, the, the leeway
29:59
certain people get. The word quarterbacky. Sure. And so for me,
30:04
this being— it's like we've got these 2 sort of great white hope types.
30:08
Matthew Stafford's put in the fucking time. He's a 17-year veteran,
30:12
you know, whatever. And then we've got the young guy. But let's be really honest
30:16
with ourselves. Like, there was a, like a sort of salivating
30:20
that was done by a segment of the media regarding these 2 being MVP
30:24
quarterbacks that felt a little bit yucky. This was a rough showing.
30:28
It was all offseason. They, they've been talking about Matt Stafford
30:32
being either the best quarterback in the NFL or one of the best quarterbacks among
30:36
the top 3 or 4, which I've never understood. Like, to me,
30:39
Matthew Stafford is like a 6th, 7th best quarterback in the NFL. Who happened
30:43
to have a great MVP season. I don't have an issue with him winning the
30:46
MVP, but like the, the inability to, to, to handle the nuance
30:50
of this is somebody who was a little underrated for a while and now
30:54
has become a little bit overrated. We can't have normal
30:57
conversations. But what I'm seeing is people saying like,
31:02
oh, Matthew Stafford's getting all this grace after he,
31:05
um, after he screwed up. Like he was awful in this game and everybody's like,
31:09
oh, he'll get his shit together or whatever. But everybody's saying that Drake Maye is
31:12
like a fucking bust now. These, like, they can't keep their,
31:15
their narrative straight and all that stuff. I would,
31:19
I would argue that the reason people are giving Matt
31:23
Stafford the benefit of the doubt is because he's been playing in the NFL since
31:25
2009. Yeah, I would argue that we have literally watched him
31:28
play football for 17 years. So when he has a really bad game, we have
31:32
a, a 16-year career that gives us a sense of like, how good
31:37
is Matthew Stafford? Let's be real. That's a first. He's a first ballot Hall of
31:39
Famer. He's not. He's not a first ballot. You don't think so? Fuck no.
31:42
Really? This is part of it. So this is part of the like, he's going
31:45
to be— no, this is part of the overreaction, right?
31:49
Of like how up until he won a Super
31:52
Bowl, Matthew Stafford had never regularly broken
31:56
into the top 8 of NFL quarterbacks. Yeah, but you had the Detroit narrative around
32:00
that. No, there was no narrative. He was throwing hospital balls to
32:03
fucking everybody. Like, no, he was Brett
32:07
Favre without the MVPs. Like, he was Brett Favre without— like, that was what
32:11
he was. He was a gunslinger. They call him a fucking cerebral quarterback last
32:15
night. Matthew Stafford, not a cerebral quarterback. He's got a big arm and he's tough.
32:18
That's what has always been his thing. But keep in mind, also last night's scheme
32:21
was dogshit as well. He's not a cerebral quarterback. They ran the ball
32:25
more times in that game than they have in like the last 4 years.
32:27
He doesn't touch— he doesn't touch Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers,
32:31
Drew Brees, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. He doesn't fucking touch them. He doesn't touch them.
32:36
Not in talent, not in statistical output, not in efficiency. Not in, in the
32:41
ability to elevate the players around him on a team like that. Like, no,
32:44
he is, he is an inarguable Hall of Famer.
32:48
He is an Eli Manning type Hall of Famer. Interesting. And that—
32:52
but the narrative around it, I under— and I'm
32:56
fine. I think Matthew Stafford, if in this, especially because
33:00
he had a late career renaissance with the team that could
33:03
actually utilize his skill sets the best, I think it's a good story,
33:07
and I think it— I, I wouldn't be mad if it ends up in the
33:10
Hall of Fame, but absolutely not. He's not even fucking— like,
33:13
it's, it's a genuine— I think he's going in the first ballot. He's not.
33:17
Eli Manning didn't, and he had— I know, but like, the greatest Super Bowl wins.
33:20
No, you're right about that, but Eli Manning had a whole thing where he,
33:23
like, his whole career, like, there was a very specific narrative around
33:27
it. What is your understanding of Matthew Stafford's, like, career statistics? No,
33:31
no, no, I, I know what his career statistics are, but he at least— he
33:34
had for that entire Detroit run, a full-on narrative that he
33:38
was put in— basically, he was put in the worst position ever.
33:42
Greatest wide receiver of a generation. He did.
33:45
He had Megatron. You're right, he was fine. I'm just telling you,
33:49
that is the narrative. That is the national narrative around— no, the narrative was that
33:52
this is his excuse for not making the playoffs. That's a— which is valid.
33:56
You can't make the playoffs. They threw out that he was a crash test dummy
33:59
all the time. He was running for his life at all times and had to
34:02
make throws that he didn't— wouldn't have made otherwise. I'm not saying it's right or
34:05
wrong. I'm just telling you that was what he said. He was throwing hospital balls
34:08
last, last season in the playoffs. This is what he does. He and, and Sean
34:13
McVay schemes him to throw situations that— in situations he shouldn't be throwing. Like,
34:16
he's— they're a match made in heaven. But, but Matthew Stafford
34:20
is a great quarterback, and we need to be okay with dudes being
34:23
great and not first ballot Hall of Famers. I'm so tired of everybody— but
34:28
like, I'm so tired of the, of the conversation boiling down to if they're
34:32
great they're a first ballot Hall of Famer. No, no, they're not.
34:36
They're not. Right. Like, arguably right now, Josh Allen's
34:40
not a first ballot. We're going to need to make a bet on this.
34:42
Not because I think you're wrong, but I just— what I do think there's a
34:46
narrative around specifically Matthew Stafford where I think he would be a first ballot Hall
34:49
of Famer because the voters— I think I'm telling you right now, it's not fucking
34:52
happening. I'm telling you right now, it's not fucking happening. I look forward to when
34:56
we enter an alternate universe It's not
34:59
fucking happening. You think we're not in an alternate fucking universe?
35:03
Well, you really think that? Good. I want to make this bet.
35:07
This is gonna be a great bet. Let's do it. I mean, listen, it's,
35:10
it's not one of those things where like, even if they did,
35:14
I would— it would be so pathetic. Like, if you look at
35:18
the list of who's actually been voted in first ballot at quarterback,
35:21
yeah, like he doesn't— he can't hold their jocks. Like,
35:24
it's Probably. But I got to say, probably if I had my
35:28
choice between holding their jocks or having the amount of money that Matthew Stafford has
35:31
made, because I think he's like 3rd all time in the NFL. Oh, I'm sorry.
35:34
We're talking about money now? Why not? I didn't— I'm not saying one equates to
35:38
the other. I'm just giving you all the facts. Why'd you bring it up?
35:41
Because I'd rather have that. I would too.
35:45
The end. That's a— that's like you just brought up a totally different thing.
35:48
It's relatively related. Well, I mean, I think Tom
35:52
Brady's doing well, too, with money. He's doing fine. Just so we're clear, he's doing
35:54
just fine. He's been able to buy like 4 new Jaws.
35:58
Yeah, well, you know, the job keeps— budget
36:02
is high. It's getting weirder and weirder.
36:06
Something that we both agree on is headline 3,
36:10
which is we're always right and never wrong.
36:13
Oh, weird. Isn't that crazy? I can't believe— never wrong. Can't believe
36:17
this happened. Can't believe that cooler heads prevailed
36:21
because I can't believe the threat of expelling LSU
36:25
didn't come to fruition. No way they didn't expel LSU.
36:29
You know, like one of their most popular teams that generates a fuck ton
36:34
of money for them, probably second in the entire conference. So the SEC
36:38
is not expelling. There's going to be no sanctions regarding
36:42
the meeting on the expulsion. The conference issued a statement following the highly anticipated
36:46
meeting on Thursday. That indicated they would decide
36:50
whether to terminate LSU from the SEC. According to the statement, the video conference
36:55
was meant to discuss recent matters involving conference expectations and responsibilities.
36:58
Those discussions will continue at the conference and its members' universities work
37:03
toward the appropriate resolution. The threat of expulsion had subsided in recent
37:07
days as the football program backed off its desire to add former NFL rookies Daquan
37:10
Wright and Xavien Harris to its roster. In a letter to SEC Commissioner Greg
37:15
Sankey. School President Wade Roos on Wednesday
37:19
said the Tigers complied with the conference rules by not rostering former pros,
37:23
calling the issue moot. I will say the SEC rules currently,
37:28
or the, the Louisiana judge had ordered that
37:32
they were cleared. Those players were cleared to go back and play college
37:36
football. So like the SEC being pissy about it didn't fucking
37:40
matter because the court had overruled it. But They still complied.
37:44
Fine. They're like, oh, we don't need— we, we absolutely slaughtered Dabo
37:48
and fucking Clemson. Fine, dude, we won't sign them. Are you happy?
37:52
And, and the SEC is like, oh, thank God. Now we don't have to pretend
37:55
that we're like— you guys were never going to kick them out anyway. This was
37:58
a fucking dog and pony show and an embarrassing
38:01
one to boot. I don't know.
38:05
Is there anything more embarrassing right now than the SEC and how they handled this
38:08
entire situation? And LSU for that matter. By the way, I don't necessarily think LSU
38:12
is in the wrong in this entire situation. Again, these are— they're not in the
38:15
wrong or the right. Like, like no one— I feel like everyone's like weirdly wrong
38:19
now. Like, the SEC sucks the most, but that's only because of
38:22
the systemic sort of like setup. It's not really because LSU is
38:26
like likable. This is like one of those situations where like, hey, the worst person
38:30
you ever met in your life just made a good point. Like, it's that shit.
38:32
It's lame Kiffin. And it's fucking lame Kiffin. Fuck.
38:36
Yeah, it's— it's— I hope they all eat
38:40
each other. Yeah. And between— so between all of this bullshit
38:43
and like what's been going on in the Big Ten and the Michigan stuff and
38:47
whatever, I am at the point now where as
38:51
long as— as long as these
38:55
major, you know, programs are going to continue
38:59
to be embroiled in scandal. Yeah. I, I,
39:03
I hope they all lose to Indiana again. Like, I hope that some—
39:07
all I want in the world is for some other random school to pop up
39:11
and ruin their lives and keep, and keep forcing us to,
39:14
like, face the reality that, like, even with the NIL money, these people
39:18
can't win. I can't deal with the,
39:21
with the whining about players getting paid when
39:26
the reigning champion is Indiana. The reason Indiana had
39:30
NIL money is because of the talent that they brought in. Like,
39:33
I— you guys are like, it's like, what are we supposed to do when they
39:37
can just— when Michigan— when Dave Portnoy can just pay for a quarterback?
39:41
Well, that quarterback fucking sucked in that game. And what
39:45
do you mean, what are you supposed to do? That none of these teams you're
39:47
worried about were even in the fucking title game.
39:50
What are we even talking about? The, the reigning champions
39:55
are Indiana. Yeah, the historical
39:59
football powerhouse. Why are we acting like football is broken?
40:03
Like, I'm so— can I actually say this?
40:07
Football, NCAA football was fucking broken for like 15 years and it
40:11
was an SEC. I'm sorry. Yeah. Like, I don't recall them ever getting a BCS
40:16
national champion. Can we all, can we all like knock this shit off? This was—
40:19
this is like the college playoff had turned into like this beat, this SEC fucking
40:23
thing. It was the same team every single
40:27
fucking year. Until Phil Knight bought Oregon, pretty much,
40:30
and then they added them into them. Like, like, I don't know what else
40:34
to say. And Cam Newton went to fucking Auburn. But this is like the same
40:37
fucking conversation we had like fucking a week ago, 2 weeks ago. Like,
40:41
what you guys are like, you have weird-ass nostalgia of some sort
40:45
of fucking universe that never happened. College football has been the most corrupt,
40:49
fucked up thing that exists in all of sports.
40:52
Like, it's fucking insane. It's, it's been borderline slave
40:57
labor. Fucking insane. And you guys all want to get it back to there.
41:00
It's fucking crazy. And, and right now, I honestly think we're dealing with more
41:04
parity now than we were in the past because more— there's more opportunity.
41:07
As much as I agree that JMU had no chance in hell of actually
41:11
going anything in the playoff last year, I don't give a fuck. Glad they're there.
41:15
We're getting— Indiana won the fucking title last
41:19
year. The fucking Hoosiers? I didn't know they had a fucking football team till
41:23
3 goddamn years ago. And that— and Curt Cignetti
41:27
is like, fuck, hilarious. Like a truly insane person. Um,
41:31
so like just evidence that just— yeah, I don't— I, I don't— I don't have
41:35
any issues. I, I don't care. I don't feel bad for the SEC. I don't
41:39
feel bad for the Big Ten. I don't feel bad for any of these fucking
41:41
conferences. I don't feel bad for any of these teams. I'm so sorry. We're Big
41:45
Ten people. We're UCLA people. You know why? Because we're going gonna be at the
41:48
Rose Bowl next week together. We are at the Rose Bowl. The Regulars is gonna
41:52
take a suite at the Rose Bowl and we're gonna fucking party.
41:55
Yes, and we might be doing it quite a bit throughout the season because,
41:58
uh, I am now an official season ticket holder.
42:01
I got a letter from the new acting AD today.
42:05
He— it was sent to everyone, but I felt it was a personal touch to
42:09
this one. And, uh, he thanked me for my donation. He was like, be sure
42:13
to bring your co-host. He's like, make sure you bring the hot one. Make sure
42:18
the hot girl's here to promote UCLA. No one fucking
42:22
cares that you did this if Tanya doesn't show up. This is nothing.
42:25
I'm gonna wear my Michigan gear there. Don't you fucking dare.
42:29
You're wearing— you don't need to wear anything UCLA, but wear
42:33
blue. Okay, I'll wear a tint of blue. I'll wear navy blue
42:36
and gold. I'm actually okay with that, which is Michigan colors,
42:40
but there is no M on Anywhere. Okay.
42:43
You can wear a Jordan logo. It is a Nike school these days. We were
42:47
Adidas when I was there and it was one of these— I'm a big Adidas
42:49
person. So am I, because of my sneaker situation. You and I both have the
42:52
same similar sneakers. Like, I'm a huge Adidas person. But you have to understand,
42:55
when I was at UCLA, because I had an Adidas deal during my baseball career
42:58
at one point. I talked about your cleats. We talked. Yeah, he had a Reebok
43:01
contract, which was— sorry, Adidas. The Reebok contract was the best.
43:05
Yeah. Then I had an Adidas contract, which is actually really good.
43:08
But when I was in college, we had— we were an Adidas school at UCLA.
43:12
Adidas wasn't doing anything in baseball. We were wearing spikes
43:16
from 1994. I mean, were you at least— you could at least
43:20
pretend you were like Jose Canseco if you wanted to.
43:23
Sure. But he, he, he, he was able to inject things that probably
43:26
took away a significant amount of pain to his feet that we could
43:29
not take away at the time. Well, you know, you win
43:33
some, you lose some. Then Adidas eventually made like the greatest spikes ever.
43:36
It just happened to be like 10 years after I was in college. So sorry
43:39
to hear that. So, you know, thanks. Good, good Adidas. I was also— I was
43:42
a soccer kid, so of course Adidas was like— no, and I love Adidas now.
43:45
Like, and I, I'm, I'm a, I'm a sneakerhead. I'm, I'm, you know, I prefer
43:48
Air Force Ones. That's my thing. But no, but for workout sneakers, the Adidas that
43:52
I wear are the only thing I've worn for so long. My favorite shoe of
43:56
all time. Like, I— and I have like 3 pairs of it, and I will
44:00
be more. Uh, the Adidas Ultraboost. That's what I wear. It's the single greatest shoe
44:03
ever made. Let's fucking go. The fucking— the Adidas Ultraboost are the the only fucking
44:07
sneakers I will work out in. Look at my fucking eyes. It's the greatest shoe
44:11
ever invented. It's so good. Ever invented. I don't— invented.
44:15
I, I like was suffering, suffering until— and every
44:18
iteration, by the way, they have not like— they've not gotten worse like every single
44:22
time. Because you know how they'll sometimes change it. Do you wear— do you have
44:25
the knit one? I have every— I've had every single— so have I, but I,
44:28
I, I only buy the knit currently. The ones that
44:32
I have right now are the knit I— they remember they were doing the
44:36
like, um, the piece of like rubber that had the—
44:40
yes, yes, yes, yes, the stripes on it. I liked that better. Now it just
44:43
has like a, a stripe. Yeah, I liked that when it had like the rubber
44:46
ingrain, but other than that— so I'm— I, I have— here's
44:50
the problem with it. I don't think it's a particularly attractive shoe. Yeah,
44:53
it's just such a comfortable shoe. I actually think the women's look
44:57
really good. I think the all-white one That's what I
45:00
have. You see, I have 2 pairs over the years. Like, it gets dirty so
45:03
easy. No. Oh, so hard to get— it's so easy. Well, you— do you
45:06
work out outside? No, no, I have one that I work out in, and those
45:10
are— those are dirty because I work out in them. I don't care. I have—
45:13
I have 2 pairs that are just walking around. Okay. And it doesn't
45:17
take much. Oh dude, but you— those things dry so fast. I know, but they
45:20
need to be pearly white. But you— I can get mine pearly white that I'm
45:24
sending them. You just need OxiClean. That I'm sending my shoes to you. I'll bring
45:27
them home with me. Done, done. Bring your stinky-ass sneakers home with me. No,
45:31
no, I wash all my shoes, make no mistake. Just the, the wash. I just
45:34
need you to help me. Okay, bring out the best of the whites.
45:37
A phrase I hope I never say again. Bring out the best in these whites.
45:41
We are trying to bring out the best. We are trying to. Never— a phrase
45:45
I'm gonna say a lot. Bring out the best in these whites. We gotta bring
45:48
out the best in these whites because these whites are fucking Racist.
45:53
These racist whites are not really doing it for us. We're trying to bring out
45:56
the best in them. I'm tired of these, these whites.
45:59
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Mocha hates a
46:03
dirty white. Yeah.
46:05
Yeah. Headline. Our final headline real quick. This is something I actually
46:09
just kind of wanted to ask you about. Ask me what you think. I think
46:12
it is interesting because even now, because some of us, some of us respect each
46:15
other's expertise in these spaces.
46:18
Right. I respect your baseball expertise. Thank you. Yeah, I was a major leaguer.
46:24
Oh, did you hear about the kid that— the 30-year-old that got called up after
46:28
12 years in AAA to the Mets? Good for him. Yeah, I'm really, really excited.
46:32
Um, his name is— he's— I'm sorry, it wasn't the Mets, it's the Blue Jays.
46:35
Uh, Rudy Martin Jr. You're my favorite fucking player,
46:38
Rudy Martin. Look at this motherfucker. Look how cool he looks too. Fuck yeah,
46:42
I know, Rudy, you're the fucking man. You're the fucking man. I thought you were
46:45
gonna love him, so I saved the fucking man, bro. 12 years,
46:50
drafted in the 24th round, which doesn't exist anymore. Nope, I was 22nd
46:54
round, my man. Yeah, so we're gonna— we're
46:57
all Rudy. Rudy, you're the— you're the real Rudy.
47:01
You're the real Rudy. Uh, so that was exciting, and I want to tell you,
47:03
I'm fucking— that made me happy. Thank you. Might have made my day. Yeah,
47:06
because everything else has been— I know. And so you can— you can refer Rudy
47:09
on the Blue Jays. My Cadillac's in the shop. Uh, no, we're not going to
47:12
talk about our car situations. No one wants to know what's happening Both of our
47:16
cars. Yeah. All right. Headline number 4
47:19
is this question about who's to blame in the
47:24
Shohei Ohtani injury saga. It's a good question. This take from The Athletic
47:28
is that it's everybody, everyone and everybody.
47:31
I'll read the quick little blurb and then I do kind of want
47:35
to hear your take. Nobody's blameless in the Shohei Ohtani injury
47:39
saga, not the Los Angeles Dodgers front office, which should have
47:42
been more proactive in protecting the team's biggest star, not Ohtani, who downplayed the severity
47:47
of his symptoms. And while hindsight is always 20/20, there were warning signs throughout the
47:50
last few weeks that suggested a stint on the IR— on
47:53
the IL was the safest course of action, and the organization
47:57
wanted to give its prized star the best possible chance at healing.
48:02
If they did that, that's what they would have been doing. As the Dodgers
48:06
prepare to be without Ohtani until September 23rd at the earliest, Their biggest concern
48:10
has become a reality. When Ohtani, who is expected to be placed on the IL
48:13
on Friday, does return, there's no guarantee he'll be in optimal
48:17
condition for the postseason. Now, you and I have talked a lot about where the
48:20
Dodgers have been at since the whole situation over the last couple
48:24
of months. We have definitely seen them backslide in a way that nobody
48:27
necessarily expected. Well, they have won 7 in a row, though. In fairness, they're playing
48:31
great now. Right. But I mean, like, they're also— there's also been like a lot
48:34
of struggles. There's issues. There have been issues. So happy to tell you any of
48:37
them. Number one, do you think that the Ohtani situation is a problem?
48:41
And if you do, who is there? Is there a reasonable
48:46
expectation that there could have— there could have been something more preventative in this situation?
48:49
Okay. I want to— who wrote this, by the way? The Athletic.
48:53
I would love their name because I know for a fact they're listening to
48:56
my fan show. Okay. I know for a fact. All right. They have to be
49:00
because this is Katie Wu. Katie Wu's listening to my show. Yeah. Um,
49:04
because Katie Wu is correct. This is exactly the take I have.
49:07
Um, no one and everyone is to blame at
49:12
the end of the day. So it is everyone. I mean, there is the— you
49:14
do believe there was a— there were measures that could have been taken? This has
49:18
been— I've been saying now for a week and a half, you need
49:22
to put Ohtani on the IL. Okay. There is clearly something wrong
49:25
with him. Okay. And I believed it was more of a shoulder issue than it
49:28
was knee issue because he was, you know,
49:31
shaking out his arm. And it was very clear he wasn't hiding that he was
49:35
hurt. And even Dave Roberts had to address it after a game. Here's the thing
49:38
about Shohei Ohtani and Shohei Ohtani's contract. He has Shohei Ohtani,
49:42
he has his people, and the Dodgers have Dave Roberts and they have their
49:45
people. And this has been a kind of a symbiotic conversational thing.
49:50
Shohei Ohtani is one of one in Major League Baseball. Shohei Ohtani kind of has
49:53
final say. He's the most powerful person, sort of like a LeBron type,
49:57
very much a LeBron type, but like, but very collaborative.
50:00
Everyone's working together. But I also— LeBron's like that too. But I also believe Shohei
50:03
Ohtani is not expressing exactly how much pain he's been in, because you have
50:07
to understand what Shohei Ohtani does. Like, the— I don't understand how it's even possible,
50:11
how much pain I was in just being an offensive player, let alone with
50:15
a subpar human. And you're just not— you're not built like Ohtani. Every major
50:19
leaguer is subpar in this sport. I'm obviously Obviously fucking— no, no, no, I'm agreeing
50:22
with that. I was definitely subpar, but now compared to Ohtani, everyone is. Because,
50:26
yeah, right. But no, there's, there's like, there's every normal athlete
50:29
that's a professional, then there's like Ohtani and LeBron and Serena Williams and
50:33
like Simone Biles and like their own category, right? Yeah. Um, at the
50:37
end of the day, it's Shohei Ohtani's decision and everyone's,
50:41
and Dave Roberts is going to adhere to it, and I
50:45
don't believe he has final say. I do think he has
50:48
an opinion. Do you think anybody in the Dodgers organization could say
50:52
to Ohtani, I really love that you want to keep playing? You're on the IL
50:56
right now. Yes, I do. I 100% think they do. But I do think
50:59
the final say would be coming from Shohei Ohtani. No, I honestly—
51:04
okay. I think they know sometimes you do this. You have to— you just said
51:08
2 things. No, no. Well, your question— my question is, is there
51:11
anybody in the Dodgers organization that can shut down Ohtani Regardless
51:16
of what he wants? Yes, but that—
51:21
who is it? Probably Andrew Friedman. Okay. The president of
51:25
baseball ops. But I got to say, he won't. I don't
51:28
think he would if Ohtani said no, because I
51:32
do think that was the— that's part of the premise of the conversation. No,
51:34
no, it's a fair premise. You're saying there's some— if there was anybody who would
51:39
try, it would be Andrew Friedman. Or Mark Walter
51:44
himself, right? But he's not— is he that involved? I don't know.
51:48
Yeah, but here's the thing, Mark Walter is busy trying to sell— he's got enough
51:52
problems. He's got a problem now. But I— you have to understand, there's also this
51:55
aspect that I do think is kind of lost in the translation. Like, I want
51:59
to make it abundantly clear, this is like— this is very confusing because there was
52:03
this preventable thing that could have happened. Shohei Ohtani played in a game about 4
52:06
nights ago. He should not have played in that game. In fact, He should have
52:09
gone on the IL about 5 days earlier. He took about 5 days off and
52:12
he came back for that one game. And I was thinking, what the fuck are
52:14
you guys doing? Put him on the IL, retroactive him back 5 games, give him
52:18
a goddamn month off. I'm at the point where I'm like, he should just shut
52:21
him down. And they freely have now admitted even when he comes back, he's not
52:25
going to be 100%. This has been,
52:28
I think, a lot of lost in translation, not because of Japanese or
52:32
anything. This has been more lost in translation. English perfectly,
52:35
perfectly well. This is more lost in translation, pardon the expression,
52:39
due to the idea that basically Shohei Ohtani is
52:44
superhuman. He knows he's superhuman and is, but he's not.
52:48
I know. So that's what we're seeing. Like Shohei had to miss seasons pitching.
52:52
He said like, this is not, you know, when I see this sort of superhuman
52:55
behavior, um, from— he's now 31
53:00
years old though. So it's which We're getting to real realistic
53:04
life. Okay, but you have to remember that like these are— this is, this is
53:07
the era where across sports players are able to
53:11
sort of sustain their bodies in ways that are different than they were before.
53:14
Now the pitching is going to go before the hitting. We all know that.
53:17
That's like a whole thing. I've expected him to not pitch after 2 years.
53:21
This is not a player that has been, that has been free of injury or
53:25
free of sort of taking specific time. Multiple Tommy John So what I'm
53:28
saying is like, we— I know why LeBron might overestimate
53:33
his body. I know why, like Serena, I know why,
53:38
uh, like, uh, somebody like Cal Ripken or Eli
53:41
Manning with these like crazy games played in a row
53:45
stats might overestimate their bodies and push because
53:49
they're like, I don't get hurt, right? I don't get hurt.
53:53
Here. Oh, Shohei gets hurt. Yes. Where is the arrogance?
53:57
Okay, though, the arrogance is coming from this because when he was hurt, he wasn't—
54:00
yes, he was hurt in that he had Tommy John surgery and couldn't
54:04
pitch. He won an MVP that year because
54:08
he was so ridiculous offensively because the Tommy John surgery didn't stop
54:11
him. The Tommy John surgery stopped him from winning a title? No,
54:15
he won a World Series with the Dodgers that year. So he didn't miss time
54:19
is what you're saying? No, not with the Dodgers. He got Tommy John surgery in
54:22
the offseason after the Angels. Then came to the Dodgers, wasn't able to pitch for
54:25
this first full year. He didn't— when became he— that's fine, he was
54:29
50-50 and won the MVP and a World Series. But what I'm talking about
54:32
is he didn't pitch, so just stop pitching. No, I agree, that is always going
54:36
to be the case. This is the problem: he had already stopped pitching. He was
54:39
trying to come back to pitching, and the problem is everyone was saying bicep injury.
54:43
I, I want to make it about— bicep is not the injury, it's bicep tendon.
54:46
A bicep injury goes into your shoulder. He has a shoulder injury.
54:50
The shoulder injury is fucking everything up. That's the problem.
54:53
Now it's becoming a neck injury. He can't pitch anymore. In my
54:57
opinion, he shouldn't have been fucking trying to pitch after he
55:01
stopped pitching like 2 months ago. There is a bit to me there. What all
55:05
you're doing is convincing me that there is a bit of Shohei imposing
55:09
his, his personal ambition. Yes.
55:13
Onto a team that is trying to win a fucking title. His personal
55:16
ambition this year was about winning a Cy Young. They were not quiet about it
55:20
and he was not quiet about it. And he wanted to get back to doing
55:22
it, which I will say. And he was on his way to doing it.
55:24
A lot of players would get lambasted for that, but he was on
55:28
his way of doing that. And when he— but, but hear me out. After he
55:31
came out of doing that, he was still offensively playing like the
55:35
MVP as time went forward. And when you were Cy
55:39
Young, though, the MVP is not the Cy Young. Agreed. And he didn't want the
55:41
MVP anymore. He wanted the Cy Young. And I understand he won a Cy Young.
55:44
No. No, he hasn't. So this was like— and he was on track for it.
55:48
I'm starting to get a little bit suspicious of Shohei's ambition. His ambition was very
55:52
specific. But you have to understand that also, just hear me out. I'm not
55:56
hearing— you're not the issue. Shohei's the issue. You can say whatever you want.
55:59
The Dodgers also live a very charmed life during this entire process. While Shohei
56:03
has been a little down and not even hitting well, the Dodgers still have the
56:07
2nd best record in Major League Baseball by a game and a half. They are
56:11
still on pace to win another 100 games. They actually don't even need Shohei to
56:14
win a title. They do not. In fact, since Shohei's been on— not even
56:17
on the IL, since he's been sitting down, the Dodgers have won 7 of those
56:21
8 games. They've won 7 in a row. They're playing great without Shohei. Their,
56:24
uh, entire roster is perfectly fine. Like, if, if Shohei is,
56:27
is at his best and he just puts them over the top to
56:31
100%, undeniable. But like, so I— my thoughts was he needed to be
56:35
shut down a couple of weeks ago. If he's a fucking DH, I've been saying
56:39
it all along. Shohei should have been shut down a couple of weeks ago.
56:41
This is just— but here I think this is a combination of a lot of
56:45
things, and I'm not trying to make excuses for Shohei, the Dodgers, or anybody.
56:48
I'm just saying, they finally— this is the first time I've raised my eyebrows at
56:51
like, Shohei, what are we doing? Shohei was going for certain things. I think
56:56
he thought he had more in the tank than he did. That is some privileged-ass
56:59
shit. That's like, I'm on the Dodgers, I make more money than any human's ever
57:04
made in sports, and You know what? I want a Cy Young. And the last
57:07
time I was hurt, I won an MVP anyways. I like— it's just this
57:11
isn't like— it's not that, but it's not that going specifically for a Cy Young.
57:15
Oh, he was— is like, so for somebody whose
57:19
pitching has been like— he's been amazing when he's been a great pitcher,
57:23
but like, that's a skill set that's going to decline really quickly.
57:26
Yes. To like prioritize that is— is that
57:30
if I were a Dodgers fan, I'd be so frustrated with it. But also
57:34
it's Shohei Ohtani. How mad can you possibly be at somebody who's like literally
57:38
created your team into a dynasty? It's almost like
57:42
you almost got to be like, yeah, kind of. If you're a Dodger fan,
57:45
you're like, you're like, look what he's done for us. We kind of got to
57:48
let him try, right? You know, I think what's happening in my brain right
57:52
now is I am equating him to LeBron, and I'm thinking
57:55
about the, the 20-plus years of LeBron is
57:59
selfish. LeBron only cares about himself. LeBron only cares about this, that, and the other
58:03
thing. While watching him absolutely fucking put his whole body
58:08
on the line, play more minutes than anyone's ever fucking played in any fucking sport.
58:12
We've never seen anything like it. He's played so many more minutes
58:16
than any other NBA player. Um, and him going and,
58:19
and carrying these teams for like years
58:23
with no fucking help on the Cavs. And then, oh, so much shit
58:27
just because he wanted to play with Dwyane Wade. So much shit because when he
58:30
went back to the Cavs he had Kyrie. Oh, thank— like, God forbid he not
58:34
have to carry Zydrunas Ilgauskas and a bunch of people we don't remember to fucking
58:38
Finals, right? And it's just like, over— I've been listening to it for 20-plus
58:43
years that he is just this selfish person who only cares about his fucking performance,
58:46
which is not true. It's— he's the ultimate team
58:49
player. He can play all these positions. You don't want— he doesn't— he— oh,
58:53
we don't need him to score tonight? He'll just be the best point guard in
58:56
the league. Oh, you don't mean he'll just be the best rebounder in the league.
58:58
And so when I, when I hear this, the excuse-making
59:01
for like a player who might have— and by the way,
59:05
this is more— this is less about Ohtani and more about the way people
59:08
talk about sports, where it's like, he get— who gets the passes? And he's
59:13
getting the pass, right? Here's the thing, okay, I don't know what it is.
59:14
I'm not even mad at Ohtani. No, no, I'm sure you know that there's like
59:18
a part of this that was like, I hear what— how you're even pointing this
59:21
out, and I fucking totally hear Yeah,
59:26
I wanted to see it. I really did see what I wanted
59:30
to see him get. That's— I wanted to see him go for the Cy Young.
59:32
And I wanted it. So I too, I just wanted it.
59:35
And even though it was possibly hurting the Dodgers, it would have been really
59:39
cool, but not at the expense. You are right. But again,
59:43
what expense? The Dodgers are primed and ready to make another October
59:47
run. They're not going to win. I honestly do not think they're
59:51
going to win the NL. I honestly do not think they're going to. They can
59:54
and they should, but I don't think they're going to. Yeah, I think there are
59:57
too many teams in the National League that, one, have their number.
1:00:00
Yeah. By the way, the Diamondbacks are fighting for a spot. If the Diamondbacks played
1:00:04
the Dodgers in October, the Diamondbacks are knocking out the Dodgers. And the Diamondbacks
1:00:08
have the Dodgers' number. They— when they went to the— when they fucking own them—
1:00:12
when they went to the World Series, they beat the Dodgers and they Pretty easily.
1:00:15
But I'm telling you, if the Diamondbacks make October and play
1:00:19
against the Dodgers, I firmly believe the Dodgers will be knocked off. Bringing that up,
1:00:22
by the way, because if the— if— and it's an if.
1:00:26
No, this is a very small chance, but like the
1:00:30
smallest of chances. First of all, the Diamondbacks need to make the playoffs. But if
1:00:32
they do, and some way, somehow the universe collides
1:00:36
where it's Diamondbacks-Red Sox in some way, shape, or form, I need
1:00:40
to live here. For like a week and a half. I want— that's fine by
1:00:44
me because you have to understand something. I don't know, because I'll
1:00:48
be conflicted for that series. It doesn't matter what you care about. I know your
1:00:51
husband is a diehard Diamondback. No, you can root for whoever— what I'm saying is
1:00:55
you can root for whoever you want. We can watch games together, whatever. But you're
1:00:57
gonna— I lit— I don't— it's— I love the Diamondbacks so much.
1:01:01
So do I. And, and he also loves the Red Sox, but the Diamondbacks
1:01:05
are like his fucking team, right? Yeah. And like, I was like, Chris, I don't
1:01:08
know that I can do that. Like, we— I want to
1:01:12
root for the Diamondbacks so bad, but you can't get— but my brain,
1:01:16
my body's gonna take over. I get it. Like, my favorite player is on the
1:01:19
Diamondbacks, my favorite baseball player is on the Diamondbacks, but my body will take over.
1:01:23
We got an extra room for you, you're fine. I mean, the studio's got a
1:01:26
fucking— you can pull out that right there. You have a pull-out bed in the
1:01:29
studio. Yep, we have everything here. Yeah, no, no, guys, we have everything.
1:01:33
We have everything, and we're going to be showing you everything Hopefully live if our
1:01:37
fucking system doesn't fucking do what it did today. Yeah,
1:01:40
seriously, I'm gonna have some very angry conversations with a company soon.
1:01:44
Um, we— before we head out, we do need to do a little bit
1:01:47
of media corner here because— oh, I saw this. This— holy
1:01:51
shit, I saw this. I fucking couldn't believe what— I'm having a little
1:01:55
bit of an identity crisis, dude. He needs you back so bad. It's so
1:02:00
bad. No one's needed— I need Tanya. No one needs Tanya
1:02:04
more than fucking Colin Cowherd needs Tanya. I— all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
1:02:08
preface this with, uh, so Cowherd interviewed Sophie Cunningham on his podcast.
1:02:11
Gross. Um, and before we get into what that entailed, that everybody
1:02:16
needs to know that I worked on Colin Cowherd's, uh, show The Herd on Fox
1:02:20
Sports 1 for 6 and a half, almost more than 6, almost 7 years.
1:02:23
I really like Cowherd,
1:02:26
liked Cowherd. I enjoyed working with him. He was a good person.
1:02:30
He seemed to work hard. He listened to his production staff.
1:02:34
He was collaborative. He was still a white guy
1:02:38
of a certain generation, and he had his predispositions, but he was certainly
1:02:42
willing to have conversations. And,
1:02:46
and I've worked with a lot of fucking people. I've worked with everybody
1:02:49
that you could possibly think of. I've probably worked with them or know somebody who
1:02:52
has. And I like Colin. I don't
1:02:57
know what's happening here, but this was like a, a, a twist
1:03:01
that like genuinely made me feel a little bit gross. It was not good.
1:03:04
So he had Sophie Cunningham on his podcast, the WNBA
1:03:08
player who started the whole trans panic in the WNBA. Yep.
1:03:11
Who already is on our bad side. And the fact that she's on his podcast
1:03:16
is quite literally only because she's become this sort of white
1:03:20
America anti-trans phenomenon. She's not a great WNBA player.
1:03:24
She's a passable bench player. Yeah. Um, and that's fine,
1:03:28
and that's fine. There's room for that. But that's what she is. So in this
1:03:32
conversation, he has this weird moment where he's
1:03:36
like, I, you know, I don't know how to bring this
1:03:40
up or how to say it, but, uh, you're like the WNBA's
1:03:44
like sex symbol. No, she's not.
1:03:48
There's so much wrong with— and she's like, just say it. That made me sick,
1:03:51
by the way. She's like, just say it, just say it, I don't care,
1:03:52
I don't care. And she was anticipating being called like a transphobe
1:03:56
or something, so she was like relieved that all he said was, yeah, you're hot.
1:04:00
And he had to say, no, you're really fucking hot. You are
1:04:04
so gross. Like, it was— and he was like looking off, and he— it was
1:04:07
like he was uncomfortable to say it, but then he said it anyway. The whole
1:04:10
thing was odd. And she was like, no, no, it's cool, whatever. And I didn't
1:04:13
even watch her response. Like, I literally had to clock out. But here's the thing,
1:04:17
Sophie Cunningham— I— what I will say is that there is a segment
1:04:22
of white supremacists who very specifically have used Sophie Cunningham
1:04:26
as this, uh, like, she's so beautiful
1:04:30
and that's why everyone hates her, because she's like a tall white blonde woman,
1:04:33
and so everyone's jealous. They've decided that that's what it is with Sophie,
1:04:37
and they're so grateful that Sophie exists because Nobody— they weren't really selling it with
1:04:40
Caitlyn. But the thing is,
1:04:43
um, and you and I have talked about this, so sex
1:04:48
sim— so beauty's in the eye of the beholder. I actually do agree with that.
1:04:51
I actually do. Like, there— I was just talking on the internet today about
1:04:55
how I've had a crush on Oliver Platt since I was a child. Beauty is
1:04:58
in the eye of the beholder. I'm not deadass— I would, I would do—
1:05:02
I would, I would tomorrow. I would Oh,
1:05:05
right now, Oliver Platt. You know what, Oliver Platt has so much
1:05:09
fucking good sexual energy. He's hot. I don't know what it is. So my
1:05:14
point is, I don't just say that. Nice. Okay,
1:05:16
but on the flip side, sex symbol is a,
1:05:21
is a very specific— like, we all have to agree
1:05:25
on it. That's fucking nuts. Sex symbol is Halle Berry,
1:05:29
you know, like talent and hotness, whatever. I'll even give you Sydney Sweeney.
1:05:34
I'll, I'll give you that. I'll give you that. I, I am personally— she's not
1:05:37
for us, but she's not my— honestly, I think Sydney Sweeney is like, yeah,
1:05:41
she's attractive, but she's not like— I don't look at Sydney like— I don't even
1:05:44
think she's attractive. Like, she's— I quite literally don't think she's hot.
1:05:48
But also, she is a sex symbol because of the, like, the pervasiveness of her
1:05:52
being very much so. Great body. Like, I think she's like— I think she's a
1:05:55
good body. She's just not for me. Like, she's not my style. I'm not She's
1:05:59
not my type. And if she came to me and said, let's have sex,
1:06:00
I would probably say absolutely. But I mean, let's just give it a shot.
1:06:04
But you should see my list. Yeah, but like,
1:06:09
that's a broad statement. And the biggest problem I have
1:06:13
with it is that by far the WNBA
1:06:17
has the biggest like group of like
1:06:20
beautiful, could-be-model athletes Yeah,
1:06:25
that we have. Like, they're all tall and
1:06:29
like incredible shape and really, really hot. And one of my
1:06:33
biggest crushes right now is a WNBA player. Which one? I don't know.
1:06:36
You don't want to say? No, I'm not doing this. Wait, really? Well, you know,
1:06:40
you know, okay, you don't want to— time, you know, my all-time is Candace Parker,
1:06:44
right? Yes. Yeah, I think Candace Parker is like one of the
1:06:48
most attractive human beings that has ever existed. Planet Earth. But you don't know— but
1:06:51
you're right now, you can't say we shouldn't. We don't need to do this.
1:06:54
Why? Do you know— do you
1:06:58
know who Ray Burrell is? What did you say? Doesn't matter, it's not
1:07:01
important. No, wait, she's a member of the Sparks. She's on the Sparks.
1:07:05
Oh, she's on the Sparks, so you don't want to get— you're— it's too proximate
1:07:08
to you. It's close by. Okay, close by. I see what's happening. Just— just— do
1:07:12
you know Ray Burrell? Yeah. Okay, do you know who she is? Okay, yes,
1:07:15
yes, she's a good basketball player. Okay. He's a great— and by the way,
1:07:18
I talk, I talk, and that's all. She's a good basketball player and I respect
1:07:22
that. I respect her. I have every ability to
1:07:25
say someone is extremely hot and good at basketball and we can talk about both.
1:07:29
She's really— she's, she's also attractive. Yeah, like I
1:07:33
have, I, I have a million crushes on
1:07:37
WNBA players. Yeah, but the thing is that
1:07:41
the— no, you have more than one right now. I got one.
1:07:44
Okay, you got laser focused. I am. I, I can't— tunnel vision.
1:07:47
Okay, actually admirable. Yeah, sorry, it's how I get it. I,
1:07:51
I'm that guy. I am a member
1:07:54
of the tall blonde white woman community.
1:07:57
You are. This is true. I do know, right? So I am, you know,
1:08:02
we don't sign up for it, although some of us do. Some people dye their
1:08:06
hair. Sophie actually is, I think, a natural blonde. I think so. I don't think
1:08:09
it's that exact shade, but I do think she's actually a natural blonde, which is
1:08:11
quite rare. And here's the thing, I don't
1:08:15
appreciate— I don't appreciate that being the bar. I don't appreciate Sophie
1:08:19
Cunningham being the bar. I think she's fine. I don't think
1:08:23
she's ugly. She's cute. She's done a lot of work. I think she's pretty.
1:08:26
She's had a lot— she's had to throw a lot of filler into the lips.
1:08:30
She's had to throw a lot of, like, you know,
1:08:32
eyebrow lifting. But I don't begrudge anybody.
1:08:35
I do when they're transphobes. Oh, that's a different— when they're doing
1:08:39
gender affirming— oh no, no, no. That's the conversation you're having.
1:08:43
Oh no. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, fuck you. No, that's a different conversation altogether.
1:08:46
Yeah. I thought you were saying just in general, people doing
1:08:50
things to make them feel better or how they look. No, I don't care about
1:08:52
that. I'm on board with you getting all the fucking filler and anything that makes
1:08:55
you feel good about yourself. Yeah. So because you're a transphobe,
1:08:58
fuck you. Yeah. So you and your gender-affirming care that has
1:09:02
made you, I would say on a, on a good day,
1:09:06
I'm going to go, you're We're in LA, so the bar is high.
1:09:10
Bar's pretty— so the— an LA 10 is one of the hottest people you've ever—
1:09:13
like, you might not be able to look at them straight in the eye,
1:09:15
right? It's a different conversation. So that, that's Kate Beckinsale. I'm gonna— not anymore.
1:09:20
I didn't say today. Yeah, I'm saying the time I saw her in Ursula's on
1:09:24
Wilshire Boulevard. We have a big problem with small body— with people who are too
1:09:27
small. Like, in my, in my neck of the woods, when people are too short
1:09:31
and too small— she's like 90 pounds. But I will tell you, there's only 2
1:09:34
people I've ever seen in public. She was Where I'm like, what the fuck?
1:09:36
That's not real. Her— Issa Rae,
1:09:39
I'm telling you. Oh, why are you saying that like that? No, no, no,
1:09:43
no. Like, she is so hot. No, no, she's so hot it hurts.
1:09:46
But the problem is her on camera doesn't—
1:09:51
that's how everybody is close. That's how everybody is. I was—
1:09:54
was it— who was it that saw? I thought I looked at the sun.
1:09:58
I think I had to turn away. I think it was Chris saw
1:10:02
Kim Kardashian one time and he was like, oh, like, she's so small.
1:10:07
Like, I don't think people understand how— I've seen Kim multiple times and
1:10:11
there's nothing about Kim that even made me look twice. But you can't tell how,
1:10:14
like, hot people are or how small they are, or like— I saw— you're so
1:10:18
tiny. No, Issa Rae is ridiculous. I thought I was— I literally
1:10:22
turned away. I'm like, I— it was like looking at this. No, that's a lot.
1:10:24
I'm like, that's a problem. That's— I think I can't be here. But there's a
1:10:27
lot of WNBA players that are that. And Sophie
1:10:31
Cunningham is just like— I, I'm gonna go back
1:10:34
to the LA scale. I'm gonna go 6.5. Wow. There's a lot
1:10:38
of tall blonde women, um, in LA, and like, she just would
1:10:42
never be the one that I was looking at. Like, she just— that's fair,
1:10:45
you know? It's just like, oh yeah, would I ever be like, ew?
1:10:48
Like, of course not. But like, is she in the same— if I— is she
1:10:52
in the same bar as Ray Barrow? Yeah. Then guess who I'd And I— if,
1:10:56
if, if this is there and Ray Burrell's over here, I'm— my,
1:10:59
my back is turned and I'm looking at this direction, but not looking at
1:11:03
Ray Burrell. I'm looking in this direction. The bigger issue is I gotta use my
1:11:06
periphery. I can't be that creepy guy that's looking directly at her. I have
1:11:09
to look— you can't be Colin Cowherd fucking being like, sex symbol? So you're a
1:11:13
sex symbol now? By the way, great job on challenging her on anything,
1:11:17
you fucking old-ass nothing now.
1:11:20
What the fuck happened to fucking Colin Cowherd? No,
1:11:23
that's what— that was the bigger part of this is, which is this, like,
1:11:27
there's nothing— what are we doing anymore? I, like, there's— there—
1:11:31
we have never sat down and had a conversation with, like, some 7th man off
1:11:35
the bench and been like, you know you're the hottest guy in the league,
1:11:37
right? Yeah, we did. What are we fucking— we did this with Rick Fox here
1:11:40
in LA for years. He was, he was very attractive.
1:11:45
Um, Rick Fox, he was good. One of the hottest.
1:11:49
But he was so fucking hot. I firmly believe he
1:11:53
was a Laker for that run. Because of how hot he was.
1:11:56
So that's a perfect example of like the level of attractive you should be
1:12:00
if like people can't not talk about it. Yeah, Sophie Cunningham is
1:12:04
just a girl. Yeah, Rick Fox— if I had my choice between
1:12:08
sleeping with Sophie Cunningham and Rick Fox, yeah, I'm sleeping with Rick Fox
1:12:11
10 out of 10 times. Like, you need to be the kind of like attractive
1:12:15
that's like distracting, to be like— have that be like a point
1:12:19
of conversation in sports podcast situation.
1:12:23
Like, you know what I mean? Like, by the way, I'm so glad I said
1:12:24
Rick Fox and you immediately agreed. We all agree that Rick Fox was stupid attractive,
1:12:29
right? I gotta bring this up with Fish at some point. I'm like, was it
1:12:31
awful being in a room with that guy? My family, Rick Fox.
1:12:35
Um, but dude, do you know Rick Fox? Uh, yeah,
1:12:39
but like, do you remember how handsome he was? Uh, I was a kid,
1:12:43
dude. Google it, it's fucking stupid. Prime Rick Fox was, um, it was— wasn't he
1:12:47
married to— he was married to somebody famous. Yeah, he was married to somebody famous.
1:12:49
Um, Vanessa Williams, maybe? That might be right. And then this
1:12:54
was like when Vanessa Williams was like— Vanessa Williams, also one of the more distractingly
1:12:58
beautiful people. Um, this was a time in life. This is what I'm talking about,
1:13:01
like where I don't— I'm not so stupid that I can't understand that people are
1:13:04
distractingly beautiful, that where you can't not talk about it. I'm not— yeah,
1:13:08
but Sophie Cunningham's not— we're just not— come on. Like, I'm sorry,
1:13:11
that's just not the case. Like, she's no Ray Burrell. Let's be real. Okay.
1:13:15
I'm glad. I like how you weren't gonna say the name, but now you said
1:13:18
it 90 times. I don't know what you're talking about.
1:13:22
Maybe, maybe she'll be at the UCLA game.
1:13:25
No, no, no, I would, I would have to leave the UCLA game.
1:13:30
I'm like, no, Tyler, we gotta go. I can't be here. I cannot be here.
1:13:34
I'm gonna keep looking over there and someone— security is gonna grab me at
1:13:38
some point. I'm like, I swear he's not a creep. I swear to God,
1:13:41
I'm just looking for field peripherals. Listen, yeah, you gotta play,
1:13:44
you gotta learn. No, it works. Like, you're looking this way, like, and when they
1:13:47
walk this way, you do one of those. Oh my God, that's so crazy that
1:13:50
I was just looking this way. That's like wild how I was just looking that
1:13:53
way for no reason. Anyways, I'm looking forward to my restraining order. Continue. Um,
1:13:56
so yeah, anyways, uh, we're, we're keeping an eye on— we're on coward watch,
1:14:00
I think, at this point, which is like, he's— he has taken a turn into
1:14:04
a space that makes me a little bit uncomfortable. Yeah, it's weird. And I
1:14:08
said to somebody in a group chat earlier today where I was like, I,
1:14:13
I know Colin, like I, I worked with him long enough to understand that like
1:14:17
this is just not who he was. And you know, the, the old creepy
1:14:21
white guy comes for all, all these dudes. I guess Chicago changed
1:14:25
him. I guess I, I think what changed him is just like really understanding
1:14:30
that there's a specific thing you have to do to stay relevant in this media
1:14:33
market at at his age and stage, and he's decided that this is what it
1:14:37
is. I, I'm disappointed. I thought— and I am rarely disappointed.
1:14:41
I am very— I need people to understand, I'm very rarely like,
1:14:45
wow, I expect like a little bit better. I didn't expect Colin Cowherd to be
1:14:49
this like woke, like elder Gen X bro, but like I expected
1:14:54
more than like, you're a sex symbol, now you're creepy old
1:14:57
white guy. Even having Sophie Cunningham on his podcast, like nobody's having Sophie
1:15:01
Cunningham on their podcast. This is not like a regular thing. Here's the thing,
1:15:04
I would have been okay with it if he at least had the balls to
1:15:08
challenge her on the actual important topic and then have that conversation.
1:15:12
But he's not that guy. Uh, the thing, you know what I liked
1:15:16
about Colin forever? He was kind of like nice and bubbly, but he was also
1:15:19
fairly intelligent. And I don't— that's not what we're
1:15:23
leading with anymore. And now we have this and
1:15:27
that and Listen, that's why you got the regulars. We're,
1:15:31
we're fucking— we're so much smarter than everybody else. Problem is we're also drinking a
1:15:35
lot though. I mean, you know, moderately. I mean, moderately,
1:15:39
moderately, moderately. Uh, we, we keep it classy,
1:15:43
I think. I think so. Unless you bring up Ray Barone. Mocha, do you think
1:15:47
we keep it classy? Yeah, actually, that's a fair point. Mocha, what do you think?
1:15:49
Of course you guys keep it classy. Thank you.
1:15:53
I feel like maybe it felt a little bit Pandora.
1:15:58
Of course you guys keep it— no, Mocha actually is kind
1:16:02
of— you're never sloppy and yelling and— oh, I've been—
1:16:05
wait, wait, wait, wait, I've been sloppy and yelling on this show many times.
1:16:08
I'm not going to sit here and— never, never. I was sloppy and yelling fucking
1:16:12
on Tuesday. Utmost professionalism
1:16:16
from, uh, fucking gaslighting
1:16:19
shit. Well, but I will say Mocha is he's on— he's been like
1:16:23
on a, on a marijuana sort of sobriety journey. I know, he hasn't
1:16:28
smoked marijuana in a while. So how's it going for you?
1:16:31
Um, it's better than smoking every
1:16:36
day. Really? Yes. Oh, fuck. But that's it. I'm not gonna do it. That is
1:16:39
it. I don't know, I can't really tell. It is a personal— no, it is
1:16:42
though, because you can't tell. I hope so. My mom— my sister and her husband
1:16:45
go through this all the time where they're like, I think I need to take
1:16:47
a break and I need to like like whatever, and they'll take breaks and then
1:16:49
they'll interrupt it or whatever. The, the— it— which sister? The,
1:16:53
the youngest one. Youngest one's married? My youngest sister, yeah.
1:16:57
Dude, your youngest sister I think has some cool-ass style, by the
1:17:01
way. Oh, she's so cool. She is so fucking cool. No, she's actually become like
1:17:05
one of my favorite follows on Instagram. She's just got like this— she's got a
1:17:08
cool vibe. Yeah, yeah. She looks like you but like is also so
1:17:11
different than you. She looks like both of us a little bit. It's like if
1:17:15
we morphed into one She looks like our child. She does.
1:17:20
She's like covered in tattoos. Yeah. And I'm like, this is a cropped haircut.
1:17:24
She's so different. Like, but she's like, I— she's— your sister's got like one of
1:17:27
the cooler vibes I've ever seen. Yeah, it's very cool. We love— and that's Angel.
1:17:31
Yeah. Uh, she's a professional ballroom dancer. Of course she is. And a barber.
1:17:36
Of course she is. She's the coolest person alive. That's so fucking cool.
1:17:39
Yeah. So, uh, way cooler than Colin Cowherd. We can say that.
1:17:42
Um, do you have anything that you need to get off your chest pop culture-wise?
1:17:45
Before we, uh, head out. The, the Emmys are coming
1:17:48
up. I've been catching up on the show. Have you heard of the show Task?
1:17:52
No, what's Task? It's Ruffalo, who I will support. Oh,
1:17:55
I do know about this show, but I haven't watched it yet. I heard it's
1:17:58
really good though. It's Ruffalo, Tom Pelphrey. Big Mark Ruffalo fan.
1:18:02
Did you watch it? By the way, just real quick, I'm Jewish. Big Mark Ruffalo
1:18:05
fan. Yeah, right, exactly.
1:18:09
Um, Tom Pelphrey from— I originally saw him in Ozark,
1:18:12
Yeah, um, good actor. He's amazing. Yeah,
1:18:15
really good. Uh, we've got a bunch of— we got a bunch of people in
1:18:18
this, but it's, um, it's like a dark drama type situation. I'm watching it
1:18:22
purely to support Mark Ruffalo. Always. He is nominated.
1:18:26
Always. I feel like it's getting real weird out there for Mark. Hope he wins
1:18:29
so he can give a speech. Yeah, which they won't let him do. There's no
1:18:31
way it happens. Um, make it an hour. Yeah.
1:18:34
And but like, I'm still whatever. So I'm like, that was my big thing was
1:18:38
first of all, he's always in great stuff and I love these guys and also
1:18:41
whatever. So I'm, I'm, I recommend that. It's been like, it's gritty,
1:18:44
it's interesting. This, this is great acting. Oh, you know who else is in it?
1:18:48
Um, Mocha, you know who's in it is, um, so they're doing this like Delco
1:18:51
like accent that's like that area, that like Philly Delco
1:18:55
area accent. And Criston Cole from
1:18:59
House of the Dragon plays this like Philly FBI agent.
1:19:04
Yeah, Christian Cole, you know who I'm talking about? Yeah, of course. And he's
1:19:08
doing it like, he's like really doing it. He's doing the accent like he's a
1:19:11
totally different type of character. And I found
1:19:15
it, found it fascinating because like he was so embedded in my brain as
1:19:18
Christian Cole. So underrated. Yeah. No, uh,
1:19:22
by the way, you need to shine more. Was you telling me to watch Widow's
1:19:25
Peak as well? Yes. So I have to watch that.
1:19:29
Uh, have you watched that, Boca? Because I heard it's the shit.
1:19:34
I really have. It's really good. I'm a big old horror fan too. You both
1:19:37
would like it. Yeah, I know, dude. I know. I fucking— yeah, you really both
1:19:40
would. It's called Widow's Bay. It's like a comedy horror
1:19:45
thing. It's like, it's a comedy, uh, with a little bit of elements
1:19:49
of horror and like genre to it, but it's, um, it's also
1:19:53
like shot as if it's like a prestige coastal HBO show.
1:19:56
Yeah, like it's, it's like basically like How I've heard it described to
1:20:00
me in like the best way, it's like what American Horror Story wishes
1:20:05
it was type of thing. Like it's a parody and
1:20:09
a horror and a comedy. Really, really good. Like I can't
1:20:13
wait to watch it. Yeah, it's really, really good. Yeah. Um, where can I watch
1:20:17
it? It is on Apple TV. Apple TV. Apple Plus. Oh shit,
1:20:21
really? That's one you don't have? Pirate it. You don't have it? I'm gonna pirate
1:20:23
it. I don't know. He's not— he's not— you're in my family. No, I don't.
1:20:27
You're in my family. He's a Gen Z He knows how to pirate everything.
1:20:29
Fair. Never mind. Yeah, you're not my family. You got this. Yeah, he's— he— they
1:20:33
all— they don't need these. What is the gen— what is the Gen Z
1:20:37
fucking LimeWire? What is it? Um, wait, there's like—
1:20:42
no, you can't. Don't. Yeah. Oh yeah, no, no, don't, don't let it put you
1:20:45
guys on game. Yeah, you need to— you need to gatekeep that. Yeah, whatever your
1:20:48
LimeWire is, good job. Yeah, gatekeep that. We couldn't steal shows,
1:20:51
we just stole— you know why I don't use streaming
1:20:55
services because every time I log on it's like,
1:20:58
are you really the owner of this account? I'm like,
1:21:02
okay, fuck you. Yeah, dude, I have it all the time because
1:21:06
my brother uses some of my shit. Exactly. Florida. And like, I have to like
1:21:10
constantly redo my shit. It's a— it's like,
1:21:13
I would pay if you guys make it so annoying. Yeah, no, exactly.
1:21:16
I've gone through so many times that I've reached the point where I'm You know
1:21:20
what, I'm not gonna call my dad to ask for the password. Thank God.
1:21:23
Tax write-off, dude. It's— yeah, I don't know.
1:21:27
Yeah, so it's like you leave me no choice. I'm taking—
1:21:31
I'm taking what I support. I support any sort of, uh,
1:21:35
getting around streaming platforms anyway, so I'm on board anyway. So it's made
1:21:39
it easier. Yeah, I don't pay for this. But just
1:21:43
for— just for the record, I don't have anything on Pop Culture Corner that I
1:21:45
need to get off my chest. I do have something I want to get off
1:21:47
my chest, but I don't want to do it today. I want to do it
1:21:50
on Tuesday when we're back live and streaming. And I, and I have some questions
1:21:53
for you. I want to know how everybody in this room deals with
1:21:59
exes. Okay. When, when,
1:22:02
when you don't trust what's taking place. Okay. Oh, I love this. And I
1:22:06
don't want to do it today because we're not live and I want the chat.
1:22:08
No, we need the chat involved. We need the— we can't be doing juicy drama
1:22:12
stuff when there's no juicy drama. I'm just interested in how people handle exes,
1:22:17
and I'm not— it's not specific. I'm just interested in like— I have like
1:22:21
stories that I want— I, I just have so many questions. Okay, all right,
1:22:24
let's do that. Uh, Mocha, if we forget, we're all talking about our exes on
1:22:27
Tuesday. Tuesday, I need you to get all, all your fucking ducks
1:22:31
in a row, and I want to know what you got. Yeah, yeah, you know,
1:22:35
because, you know, is your ex— by the way, When you work with somebody,
1:22:38
does any of your exes like, uh, block like,
1:22:42
say, your co-host on, on every social platform?
1:22:47
Not a problem I've encountered. Wasn't a problem for me either. It's not in
1:22:51
my field. But I know that definitely didn't happen to us. I just have questions.
1:22:53
That definitely didn't happen to us. I— because weirdly, in the last
1:22:57
week, some weird shit has taken place, and I— and it
1:23:02
makes me think I'm gonna get like served papers soon for something.
1:23:05
Listen, I, I, I can't say anything other than
1:23:10
I was a little surprised myself. That's neither here nor there.
1:23:13
Such embarrassing behavior. We'll get into it on Tuesday. It's a good sign for you
1:23:17
that you're doing something right. Yeah, maybe. Oh well, they're going out
1:23:21
of their way to keep tabs on you. Yes, in some sort of way.
1:23:25
I just have questions and I'm looking very forward to Tuesday's show. Hey, I would
1:23:28
love to spill some tea on Tuesday's show. In the meantime, Cody, what do you
1:23:31
got for us? Uh, listen, Listen, like, share, and subscribe. Like, share, and subscribe.
1:23:35
Like, share, and subscribe. YouTube, we're really sorry that you didn't get to be a
1:23:38
part of this. This was fucked up today. Really fucked up. If we don't get
1:23:41
to talk about football on Tuesday live, I will end it all. Tanya,
1:23:45
question for you: do we want to do our first live Monday, or we want
1:23:49
to hold off on that? Because we've got to get to 1,000 followers. We got
1:23:52
to get to 1,000 subscriber base. This all comes down to that. We need to
1:23:56
hit 1,000 followers and people can subscribe, throw us a little money so
1:23:59
that we can put on a show for them in a way that like that
1:24:02
really benefits everybody. Um, until then, like, it's too much work for
1:24:05
us, quite honestly. Like, we're trying our best to put out free content that for
1:24:10
everybody, but we do— we can only do so much. So we're gonna, um,
1:24:12
I'll— I will— if you subscribe to my Substack, I'll be doing a live chat
1:24:16
on Mondays before Monday Night Football. Subscribe to that to just,
1:24:20
uh, chat about the— that week's games on Sunday. So I'll be doing that this
1:24:23
Monday if you want join me for that. Um, Cody, you're of course welcome to
1:24:27
join. Thank you. I am already— I am a subscriber. Yeah, that's good.
1:24:30
So, uh, so we'll be chatting about that, and then,
1:24:33
you know, hopefully you'll be seeing Cody and I in a couple of weeks starting
1:24:37
to do some live watches. Yeah, Monday Night Football. Not to mention, uh, like,
1:24:40
uh, in a week— literally in 8 days, we're gonna be live
1:24:44
at the Rose Bowl. We'll do some shit with that. We're gonna have some fun
1:24:46
there. The regulars at the Rose Bowl for the UCLA game. And, uh,
1:24:50
Honestly, Tuesday we will be back live. Uh, I apologize that we were
1:24:54
not live tonight. That is a system error and we will,
1:24:57
we will be fixed. I think it— I'm personally blaming it on Mocha.
1:25:00
I have a feeling it was Mocha's fault because I had everything set up.
1:25:02
I had everything set up till he fucking showed up. It was— I just assume
1:25:06
he, he sat on something, hit a button, and we're gonna blame him. He's a
1:25:10
savage. It was my aura. I walked into the room and
1:25:14
everything went fucking haywire. Well, seriously, like, share, and subscribe.
1:25:17
We appreciate you guys hanging with us and listen, We got— the future's
1:25:21
bright. The future's bright. We are. We're here.
1:25:24
We've finished all of our drinks. It's time for us to go eat food somehow.
1:25:28
And before we go, we need to always— we
1:25:32
didn't get to Curt Schilling tonight. But here's the thing. I want to make that
1:25:34
abundantly clear. Oh, Curt, I know you watch
1:25:38
this show. Like, you know, because you're about to talk about how the bloody sock
1:25:42
was real. No, it was not real. And also, but whether or not
1:25:46
it was real or not, I have met Curt Schilling, and fuck Curt
1:25:49
Schilling. Oh, absolutely fuck Curt Schilling.