Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / When Did Ghislaine Maxwell Stop Associating With Jeffrey Epstein?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well stated in court recently that she had not seen
- 0:03Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein in over a decade. Well, we know we
- 0:07Speaker 1: have the emails that prove that statement false. But now
- 0:11Speaker 1: we also have an eyewitness who has come forward and
- 0:15Speaker 1: said that he saw Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell together
- 0:19Speaker 1: at a restaurant in Palm Beach in two thousand and sixteen.
- 0:27Speaker 1: We all know that Gilainne Maxwell is a liar, but
- 0:31Speaker 1: what this does it adds more meat to the bone,
- 0:36Speaker 1: more context, and it goes to prove once again that
- 0:44Speaker 1: nothing that comes out of this lady's mouth can be believed.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Our article tonight is from the Daily Mail. The author
- 0:53Speaker 1: of the article is Barry Averrich. The headline I was
- 0:58Speaker 1: sitting next to Bonnie and Clyde of child abuse. Filmmaker
- 1:01Speaker 1: tells how after spotting Epstein and Gilainne Maxwell dining in
- 1:05Speaker 1: Palm Beach, he began film. He began a film about
- 1:08Speaker 1: the pedophile until he was threatened. And we know that
- 1:12Speaker 1: that was an mo for Epstein and company. They liked
- 1:16Speaker 1: the threatened journalists, they liked the threatened filmmakers, and they
- 1:19Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that they were in control of
- 1:21Speaker 1: whatever the narrative was at all times. And if you
- 1:25Speaker 1: are a filmmaker like mister Averrich here, well, you're not
- 1:30Speaker 1: going to seed control to people like that, especially if
- 1:33Speaker 1: you're doing an explosive x bose on their behavior. So
- 1:38Speaker 1: of course Jeffrey Epstein would threaten him. It was December
- 1:45Speaker 1: twenty sixteen in Palm Beach, Florida. I was having lunch
- 1:49Speaker 1: with my family at an upscale restaurant tucked away in
- 1:52Speaker 1: one of the many alleys off the famed Worth Avenue
- 1:55Speaker 1: when Jeffrey Epstein and Elaine Maxwell were shown a table
- 1:59Speaker 1: that was far away from the usual Palm Beach a listers,
- 2:03Speaker 1: that's for sure. Look, Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell, they
- 2:08Speaker 1: were not sitting around just your run of the mill
- 2:11Speaker 1: a lister, of course not. They had to have their
- 2:14Speaker 1: own little section. They had to be sectioned off in
- 2:17Speaker 1: an area where they could talk in private, they could
- 2:20Speaker 1: discuss their disgusting deeds and that they could have a
- 2:24Speaker 1: little bit of privacy. So this is the kind of
- 2:29Speaker 1: thing that you see at restaurants a lot of times,
- 2:32Speaker 1: at high end restaurants, there'll be certain portions of the
- 2:35Speaker 1: restaurant that are dedicated to just housing people like Jeffrey
- 2:40Speaker 1: Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell. When they show up, Epstein did
- 2:46Speaker 1: not want to be noticed, nor did he acknowledge the
- 2:48Speaker 1: rich and powerful in the room. Yeah, well, he probably
- 2:51Speaker 1: had them all under his thumber ready. I had no
- 2:54Speaker 1: idea that I was sitting next to the alleged Bonnie
- 2:56Speaker 1: and Clyde of child abuse. It was nearly three years
- 3:00Speaker 1: before Epstein's death and eight years after he quietly pleaded
- 3:03Speaker 1: guilty to Florida state charges one of two of procuring
- 3:07Speaker 1: miners for the purposes of prostitution. This is a huge
- 3:12Speaker 1: failure and the black eye on the legacy media. They
- 3:17Speaker 1: did their job so piss poorly that a famous director
- 3:22Speaker 1: and filmmaker had no idea who Jeffrey Epstein and Gilaine
- 3:26Speaker 1: Maxwell really were. You would think that the legacy media
- 3:31Speaker 1: that loves to tear people down would have been all
- 3:35Speaker 1: over this case, but they weren't. And then you look
- 3:40Speaker 1: around at the people that were hanging out with Epstein
- 3:42Speaker 1: and you start to understand why. Katie Kuric, George Stepanopolis,
- 3:48Speaker 1: Mike Wallace. You know, the list goes on of movers
- 3:52Speaker 1: and shakers in the world of the news, and these
- 3:57Speaker 1: are the people that we're supposed to trust to tell
- 3:59Speaker 1: us the truth. These are the people that were supposed
- 4:02Speaker 1: to trust to bring us to a point where we
- 4:06Speaker 1: can kind of understand what's going on. Unfortunately, folks, we
- 4:12Speaker 1: can't trust them. And it has been proven over and
- 4:16Speaker 1: over again. And this right here is just another glaring
- 4:20Speaker 1: example of how the legacy media shit the bed. Surprisingly,
- 4:28Speaker 1: most convicted sex offenders in Florida are set to state prison,
- 4:32Speaker 1: Yet Epstein negotiated a brief eighteen month sentence housed in
- 4:37Speaker 1: a private wing of the Palm Beach County Stockade. Now,
- 4:40Speaker 1: let's remember he only served thirteen months of that, and
- 4:43Speaker 1: most of it he was out running the streets abusing
- 4:47Speaker 1: other girls, acting like Jeffrey Epstein. It was like he
- 4:51Speaker 1: wasn't even being punished for what occurred. Not only was
- 4:56Speaker 1: it the shitty non the nonpro execution agreement, but it
- 5:01Speaker 1: was also the fact that this dude didn't even serve
- 5:04Speaker 1: any real time in jail. What he did was not
- 5:06Speaker 1: time in jail. Folks, might as well have been at
- 5:09Speaker 1: a halfway house somewhere. He was a billionaire pedophile with
- 5:14Speaker 1: a circle of high wattage friends, and yet his admission
- 5:17Speaker 1: of guilt to detestable crimes, including unlawful sex with minors
- 5:22Speaker 1: and sex abuse, received very little media attention and were
- 5:26Speaker 1: largely unknown to the general public. Again, I can't stress
- 5:31Speaker 1: this enough. The legacy media shit the bed. They were
- 5:35Speaker 1: absolutely negligent in their job. These girls went to the
- 5:42Speaker 1: legacy media, they reported what happened, and nobody None of
- 5:47Speaker 1: these journalists could be bothered to dive in, well, not
- 5:51Speaker 1: until a Costa showed up, right, and then then it
- 5:54Speaker 1: was game on once they thought that they had an
- 5:56Speaker 1: inn on one of their political opponents, while it was
- 5:58Speaker 1: a feeding frenzy. But what happened leading up to that point?
- 6:05Speaker 1: Where was the legacy media? Why weren't they doing their job?
- 6:08Speaker 1: Why weren't they making the general public aware of the
- 6:13Speaker 1: sort of scoundrel that was moving amongst us? A few
- 6:19Speaker 1: tables away at the popular Italian restaurant, a well known
- 6:22Speaker 1: cnb C eatery called Vice Restaurante, I was immediately intrigued
- 6:28Speaker 1: by Epstein. Yeah, I could see I could see why, right,
- 6:31Speaker 1: I mean, I know that if I was a documentary
- 6:34Speaker 1: filmmaker in twenty sixteen and I saw Jeffrey Epstein at
- 6:38Speaker 1: a restaurant, I'd be interested in what was going on,
- 6:41Speaker 1: and I might even want to talk about doing a project,
- 6:43Speaker 1: because sometimes that's where when you're a creative person and
- 6:46Speaker 1: you work on creative projects, you get inspiration from all
- 6:49Speaker 1: kinds of crazy situations. So I would not be shocked
- 6:53Speaker 1: if somebody was having dinner with their family and they're
- 6:55Speaker 1: a creative film director and they see Epstein in Maxwell
- 6:59Speaker 1: and they decide, Hey, you know what, I'm gonna do
- 7:02Speaker 1: something about these two. I'm gonna do a project involving
- 7:05Speaker 1: Epstein's criminal enterprise. Perhaps it's the documentarian in me. I
- 7:11Speaker 1: needed to know who he was. My wife kept telling
- 7:14Speaker 1: me not to stare. The waiters knew what to bring
- 7:17Speaker 1: him without him ordering, and his conversation was hushed in
- 7:20Speaker 1: an intimate way as he kept his head down. All right,
- 7:23Speaker 1: So that's pretty interesting, right. If the restaurants, if they'll
- 7:26Speaker 1: excuse me, the waiters and waitresses knew exactly what to
- 7:29Speaker 1: bring him without even asking him. That means he was
- 7:33Speaker 1: a regular there all the time, and that some of
- 7:36Speaker 1: the employees there might know a thing or two about
- 7:39Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and who he was associating with while he
- 7:42Speaker 1: was eating. So it's certainly another avenue to explore. He
- 7:47Speaker 1: was deeply tanned, casually dressed, and avoided the prerequisite Palm
- 7:52Speaker 1: dress code of jungle chick or garish green or salmon
- 7:56Speaker 1: colored pants. And he always dressed how he wanted right.
- 7:59Speaker 1: He always had had those stupid ass sweatpants on, those
- 8:02Speaker 1: idiotic slippers with the stupid screws on them. He was
- 8:06Speaker 1: just an absolute clown, in my opinion, one of these
- 8:10Speaker 1: guys that thought he was way cooler than he was.
- 8:16Speaker 1: On the way out of the restaurant, I pressed a
- 8:18Speaker 1: twenty dollars bill in Francesco's hand, the white jacketed maitred
- 8:21Speaker 1: d to get some information my kind of guy. That's
- 8:25Speaker 1: very Italian of you there, mister average. That is exactly
- 8:28Speaker 1: how you get information, A nice twenty folded up in
- 8:32Speaker 1: your palm. You walk up, shake hands, then you start
- 8:36Speaker 1: asking some questions. But I think that you probably should
- 8:40Speaker 1: have put a C note in your hand. His response
- 8:43Speaker 1: was a little ominous in his thick Italian accent. That's
- 8:46Speaker 1: mister Epstein and his girlfriend. I wouldn't bother saying hello.
- 8:50Speaker 1: And it's interesting again how the public thought of Gilaine
- 8:53Speaker 1: Maxwell as Jeffrey Epstein's girlfriend it was a great cover
- 8:58Speaker 1: story for him. People thought he had this girlfriend. It
- 9:01Speaker 1: was his cover story. And if he has this girlfriend,
- 9:05Speaker 1: then well, oh, come on, this story is about him
- 9:07Speaker 1: abusing people are absolutely untrue then right, because Gelaan Maxwell
- 9:10Speaker 1: would never allow it. I mean, this hoity toity British socialite.
- 9:15Speaker 1: There's no way until people find out that she's just
- 9:18Speaker 1: as bad as Epstein, that she's just as big of
- 9:21Speaker 1: a monster. The minute I returned back to the hotel,
- 9:25Speaker 1: I dug into the mysterious world of Jeffrey Epstein. I
- 9:29Speaker 1: was astounded by what I uncovered and even more shocked
- 9:31Speaker 1: on how he used his political connections and vast wealth
- 9:35Speaker 1: to essentially get a slap on the wrist for rape
- 9:38Speaker 1: and the sexual abuse of miners. Yeah. I had the
- 9:41Speaker 1: same reaction when I started digging into this case. It
- 9:44Speaker 1: is very eye opening when you have no idea that
- 9:49Speaker 1: something like this is occurring and then it all drops
- 9:52Speaker 1: into your lap. It was a lot to take in.
- 9:55Speaker 1: There has been a lot to go over, and it
- 10:01Speaker 1: is one of the most disgusting situations that I personally
- 10:05Speaker 1: have ever dug into. I don't even understand, honestly, I
- 10:10Speaker 1: truly don't understand how the people in the legacy media
- 10:13Speaker 1: at all of these outlets, Fox, CNN, none of these
- 10:17Speaker 1: places thought it was a good idea to start an
- 10:22Speaker 1: investigative series into Jeffrey Epstein. Who Are You Protecting? I
- 10:29Speaker 1: reached out to Vanity Fair writer Vicky Ward, who had
- 10:32Speaker 1: previously interviewed Epstein, and she helped fill in the blanks
- 10:35Speaker 1: for me on Epstein's notorious yet shielded reputation. And we
- 10:40Speaker 1: all know how I feel about Vicky Ward here right,
- 10:43Speaker 1: Vicky Ward and Grayden Carter, they are very responsible in
- 10:47Speaker 1: my opinion, for what occurred. They should have ran that story.
- 10:51Speaker 1: They should not have been intimidated by Epstein. Instead, they
- 10:54Speaker 1: sent out a puff piece when they knew the deal,
- 10:57Speaker 1: when they had been contacted by survivors. Vicky Ward is
- 11:01Speaker 1: not a reporter. She's a faker who so desperately wants
- 11:06Speaker 1: to be part of polite society, not like us folks,
- 11:12Speaker 1: like us people listening to this podcast, independent content creators, Oh,
- 11:16Speaker 1: we don't want to be part of polite society. We
- 11:18Speaker 1: want to burn it to the ground. If indeed it
- 11:23Speaker 1: was Maxwell that Epstein was lunching with, as I believe
- 11:26Speaker 1: it was, that would prove to be quite revelatory. Her
- 11:31Speaker 1: lawyers claimed in court that she had not been in
- 11:33Speaker 1: contact with the disgraced financier Pedophile in over ten years.
- 11:37Speaker 1: That was later disproved as unsealed documents exposed a continuing,
- 11:41Speaker 1: long email thread between them, and that was the email
- 11:45Speaker 1: that I referred to earlier. Look, there are a lot
- 11:49Speaker 1: of ties that connect them throughout the years, even when
- 11:52Speaker 1: she says they were not associating, And when we have
- 11:57Speaker 1: this eyewitness coming forward like this, it is just a
- 12:01Speaker 1: backbreaker for Maxwell and her whole entire narrative. If she's
- 12:05Speaker 1: lying about this, what else is she lying about? Folks?
- 12:12Speaker 1: And in my experience researching partners in crime, their perversity
- 12:16Speaker 1: and determination rarely dissipates. Yes, they were connected at the hip,
- 12:21Speaker 1: they shared a brain. Basically, this wasn't a situation where
- 12:24Speaker 1: Gilaine Maxwell was desperately trying to get out of the
- 12:27Speaker 1: clutches of Jeffrey Epstein. That couldn't be further from the truth.
- 12:31Speaker 1: She was a co boss here of folks. I don't
- 12:34Speaker 1: think people are understanding that in the legacy media yet.
- 12:37Speaker 1: She wasn't just a two bit player or a madam
- 12:40Speaker 1: or some pimp she was a co creator of what
- 12:45Speaker 1: was occurring. But what would happen next would shake me
- 12:50Speaker 1: to the core. The house was I had my wife
- 12:56Speaker 1: drive me to Epstein's house on three point fifty eight
- 12:59Speaker 1: El Brio Way and Palm Beach in the hopes of
- 13:02Speaker 1: getting a closer look. The house was carefully set back
- 13:05Speaker 1: behind enormous shrubbery and a huge steel fence that prevented
- 13:09Speaker 1: any way to look in. And I again, I totally
- 13:12Speaker 1: understand his desire to go and check out this house.
- 13:15Speaker 1: That's what brought me all the way to Zoro Ranch
- 13:17Speaker 1: from Las Vegas. I went there because I had to
- 13:20Speaker 1: see it for myself. We sat outside for a while
- 13:25Speaker 1: and contemplated the lurid crimes and wondered if he was
- 13:28Speaker 1: still up to his old tricks. The next day, I
- 13:31Speaker 1: walked back to the house and I was beyond shocked.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Two young teenage girls were exiting the house. Folks, here
- 13:38Speaker 1: you go. This witness is saying that in twenty sixteen,
- 13:42Speaker 1: he witnessed two young girls exiting the house of sex
- 13:45Speaker 1: offender Jeffrey Efing Epstein. Are you not embarrassed yet? Florida
- 13:53Speaker 1: State Prosecution, Mister Acosta, Department of Justice, Department of Corrections,
- 14:00Speaker 1: and all for presidents that have been around during this
- 14:05Speaker 1: guy's watch. Are you not disgusted with yourselves? You should be.
- 14:11Speaker 1: They had girl next door looks and we're simply dressed
- 14:13Speaker 1: in shorts and tank tops. I absolutely had no proof
- 14:17Speaker 1: these girls were abused or a part of Epstein's documented
- 14:19Speaker 1: seduction of girls from low income neighborhoods who took his
- 14:23Speaker 1: money in exchange for depravity. But I did notice that
- 14:26Speaker 1: they had vacant and sad expressions. This is brutal, guys,
- 14:30Speaker 1: you know. I hate these kinds of stories. I really
- 14:33Speaker 1: really detest it, and it makes me so mad to
- 14:38Speaker 1: know that the legacy media could have done something about this.
- 14:42Speaker 1: They could have acted and pressured the authorities into action
- 14:47Speaker 1: the same way we see now. They waited for so long.
- 14:51Speaker 1: So when they come onto TV or they make posts
- 14:56Speaker 1: about the Jeffrey Epstein case they write articles about it,
- 15:00Speaker 1: always remember who you're dealing with. I also had a
- 15:04Speaker 1: look at the flight manifest of his jet the media
- 15:07Speaker 1: called the Lolita Express that he used to transport his
- 15:10Speaker 1: inner circle and alleged survivors to his private Caribbean island
- 15:14Speaker 1: and his wealthy party guests. The names were staggering. I
- 15:19Speaker 1: decided then in there that I would make a documentary
- 15:22Speaker 1: and try to catch him in the act. I've never
- 15:24Speaker 1: heard any of this story before. This is good stuff,
- 15:28Speaker 1: and this filmmaker is my kind of guy. Right sees
- 15:33Speaker 1: something like this, knows that he has the resources to act,
- 15:37Speaker 1: and starts, you know, digging in. After consulting with a
- 15:42Speaker 1: criminal lawyer, I devised a plan that would include sending
- 15:45Speaker 1: a legally aged woman into Epstein's house, but have them
- 15:48Speaker 1: appear much younger. I would wire them with sound and
- 15:52Speaker 1: hidden cameras and hopefully film him confessing his depraved preferences
- 15:56Speaker 1: and potentially soliciting them to find other underage girls. You know,
- 16:01Speaker 1: it's crazy, mister average here is more enterprising than the
- 16:04Speaker 1: FBI ever was. When you have people are that make films,
- 16:09Speaker 1: documentaries and directors and independent journalists who are more worried
- 16:15Speaker 1: about what occurred at Jeffrey Epstein's and Gilaine Maxwell's hands, folks,
- 16:20Speaker 1: we have a much bigger problem on our hands. This
- 16:25Speaker 1: was something he and his partner in crime, Gilane Maxwell,
- 16:28Speaker 1: allegedly tended to do. I was genuinely concerned about the
- 16:33Speaker 1: safety of these women so I reached out to a
- 16:35Speaker 1: retired police detective and a security firm to partner with
- 16:39Speaker 1: in case things escalated or became violent. While I was
- 16:43Speaker 1: planning my film, the book Filthy Rich was published, exposing
- 16:46Speaker 1: Epstein's expedited and lenient journey through the justice system. The
- 16:51Speaker 1: same book would be the basis of the Netflix series
- 16:53Speaker 1: that was recently launched. And then when that book, when
- 16:58Speaker 1: it explained all of the the disgustingness that occurred again,
- 17:02Speaker 1: you would think that the legacy media would be all
- 17:05Speaker 1: over it, but we hardly heard a thing at the time.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Although silicious and filled with a who's who of alleged
- 17:15Speaker 1: co conspirators, the book did nothing to spook Epstein or
- 17:19Speaker 1: cause any real interest in the scandal. That's because the
- 17:22Speaker 1: book didn't delve deep enough, right Patterson gave you a
- 17:25Speaker 1: very whitebread version of what went on. Sure, we got
- 17:28Speaker 1: a decent inside look of what happened in Palm Beach,
- 17:31Speaker 1: and the whole grooming situation and recruiting situation was explained,
- 17:37Speaker 1: but there was no meat on the bone. As far
- 17:39Speaker 1: as the blackmail angle, the angle that Jeffrey Epstein was
- 17:44Speaker 1: being run as an asset. None of the deeper situations
- 17:48Speaker 1: of this whole entire case were really dug into. I
- 17:54Speaker 1: decided I needed to turn up the heat on the film,
- 17:56Speaker 1: and I leaked my plans to make a documentary in
- 17:58Speaker 1: the New York Post page. What happened next was extraordinary.
- 18:04Speaker 1: I was flooded with calls and emails from Epstein's survivors
- 18:07Speaker 1: and anti sex trafficking groups and others actually offering to
- 18:11Speaker 1: fund the film. A few of the survivors that reached
- 18:15Speaker 1: out to me remain Jane does fearing Epstein, but described
- 18:18Speaker 1: disgusting behavior that ran the gamut from gang rapes to
- 18:22Speaker 1: pathetic pleading for sexual gratification and to forced abuse. They
- 18:27Speaker 1: were miners. Look, I myself have talked with several of
- 18:33Speaker 1: the survivors, and to hear the stories directly from them,
- 18:37Speaker 1: it is just heart wrenching. And if you're somebody that
- 18:41Speaker 1: has it within their power to do something anything, and
- 18:45Speaker 1: you don't act after hearing their stories, then you, my friend,
- 18:49Speaker 1: are also a piece of shit. One of them told
- 18:56Speaker 1: me that Maxwell was present and that she offered cash
- 18:58Speaker 1: bonuses if they could pro here are other girls. Another
- 19:02Speaker 1: Jane Doe, claimed Epstein threatened to harm her and her family.
- 19:05Speaker 1: If she ever disclosed what happened, She went back numerous
- 19:08Speaker 1: times and was abused each time. The groups that were
- 19:13Speaker 1: represented survivors were delirious that someone was finally going to
- 19:17Speaker 1: take Epstein down. They recounted frustrating stories of how his
- 19:21Speaker 1: well oiled sex abuse machine was protected and yet not
- 19:25Speaker 1: unknown by both journalists and the police. Look, it's not
- 19:30Speaker 1: me saying this about the journalists, right, It's not just
- 19:32Speaker 1: my opinion. This is a fact, folks. The legacy media failed.
- 19:36Speaker 1: They failed them, they failed us, and they failed at
- 19:40Speaker 1: their jobs. This was beginning to sound like a clockwork
- 19:45Speaker 1: orange meets eyes wide shut double bill. A day after
- 19:50Speaker 1: the item ran in the post, I received a haunting
- 19:52Speaker 1: call from a retired Palm Beach police officer. He warned
- 19:56Speaker 1: me that I was playing with fire and that Epstein
- 19:58Speaker 1: had the resources and can to hurt me, both physically
- 20:02Speaker 1: and financially. He told me that Epstein used private security
- 20:06Speaker 1: firms that played dirty. He scared me sufficiently, but in
- 20:09Speaker 1: the coming months I never heard from Epstein. And this
- 20:12Speaker 1: was the typical move of Epstein right to intimidate people,
- 20:16Speaker 1: to threaten people and folks. It is just another crime
- 20:21Speaker 1: that can be put into the RICO statutes. This is
- 20:24Speaker 1: another issue that should be RICO. They were threatening people,
- 20:28Speaker 1: paying people off, intimidating people, and it was just allowed
- 20:33Speaker 1: to occur. The authorities knew, the legacy media knew, all
- 20:40Speaker 1: of the other enablers knew, and none of them lift
- 20:43Speaker 1: a single finger to help these survivors. I continued my
- 20:49Speaker 1: research and was uncovering beyond discussing details about lured abuse
- 20:52Speaker 1: and the gang rapes of so many children. I was
- 20:55Speaker 1: horrified that Epstein put on a tuxedo and attended Gallas
- 20:58Speaker 1: with Maxwell, and then I went home to one of
- 21:00Speaker 1: his many houses of horrors and abuse children. Nothing satiated Epstein,
- 21:06Speaker 1: and I was beginning to wonder who the audience was
- 21:08Speaker 1: for this film. Yeah. Uh, that's something you shouldn't have
- 21:12Speaker 1: to wonder about, especially now, because there are plenty of
- 21:15Speaker 1: people that would love for your film to come out, sir.
- 21:18Speaker 1: There are plenty of people who would love to see
- 21:21Speaker 1: you put these people on blast. Regardless of the offers
- 21:27Speaker 1: to finance the film through various sources, I wanted a
- 21:30Speaker 1: premium studio or streamer to partner with. I would soon
- 21:34Speaker 1: find out that Hollywood at that time only four years
- 21:37Speaker 1: ago had very little appetite for this film. I wonder why.
- 21:41Speaker 1: I wonder why Hollywood is an effing cesspool filled with abusers,
- 21:48Speaker 1: rapists and sex traffickers. That's not some conspiracy theory. Okay,
- 21:54Speaker 1: that's not some ridiculous, far out conspiracy theory. It is
- 21:58Speaker 1: a fat as. I would make the rounds to the
- 22:04Speaker 1: usual suspects. The general response was that the infamous Jeffrey
- 22:07Speaker 1: Epstein was not in fact famous enough, and so without
- 22:10Speaker 1: a real hook, despite his famous friends and enablers. They
- 22:13Speaker 1: passed because they were busy protecting those friends and those enablers,
- 22:19Speaker 1: just like Nancy Pelosi's daughter said, folks, some of our
- 22:22Speaker 1: faves are going to be caught up in this. One
- 22:26Speaker 1: powerful agent recommended that I partner with a producer who
- 22:30Speaker 1: had just been nominated for an Oscar for Thirteenth, a
- 22:33Speaker 1: twenty sixteen documentary by director Ava Duverne. The day I
- 22:39Speaker 1: met him, he was in a surly mood. The Academy
- 22:42Speaker 1: allowed OJY Made in America to compete despite its television window,
- 22:46Speaker 1: and it beat his film perfect timing. I pitched the
- 22:50Speaker 1: project and he quickly told me he was not going
- 22:53Speaker 1: to Sullya's reputation and follow an Oscar nominated film with
- 22:57Speaker 1: a film about a pedophile. Isn't that nice? What a
- 22:59Speaker 1: hell guy? I don't want to sully my reputation by
- 23:03Speaker 1: talking about one of the biggest problems in the world.
- 23:06Speaker 1: So yeah, you know what pounds in beat rocks. I'm
- 23:09Speaker 1: going to make another profile, another film instead. These people
- 23:12Speaker 1: are sick f Hollywood. If anybody who supports the people
- 23:15Speaker 1: in Hollywood and all of their loud mouths, oh where
- 23:19Speaker 1: me too? Where this were that? Where the no, you're not, No,
- 23:23Speaker 1: you're not You're all sick and disgusting. And the only
- 23:25Speaker 1: reason any of you ever spoke up and came to
- 23:28Speaker 1: the defense of the females that you know or your
- 23:31Speaker 1: fellow female colleagues, is to rebuild and to fix your
- 23:35Speaker 1: own reputations, to make sure that you keep your teflon on.
- 23:42Speaker 1: My Uber was longer than this meeting, and this was
- 23:48Speaker 1: how the story played out all over town. There was
- 23:51Speaker 1: no appetite for a film. One streamer actually said to me,
- 23:54Speaker 1: if the guy kills himself, you have yourself a feature.
- 23:57Speaker 1: But not now. How prophetic? Again, I don't understand how
- 24:03Speaker 1: these streamers and these Hollywood studios they love solicious shit
- 24:09Speaker 1: like this. They love digging into politicians and tearing down
- 24:13Speaker 1: people who have made money. But in this case, all
- 24:17Speaker 1: of a sudden, this isn't silicious enough. All of a sudden,
- 24:20Speaker 1: there's not enough there for you to dive in. Not
- 24:26Speaker 1: having a presale has never stopped me before. But what
- 24:29Speaker 1: was now giving me pause was a combination of the
- 24:31Speaker 1: faces that belonged to the disgusting stories of grotesque abuse
- 24:36Speaker 1: and the innocence and lives this man destroyed, and the
- 24:39Speaker 1: complete disappearance of Gilean Maxwell. From what we understood even then,
- 24:44Speaker 1: Maxwell was Epstein's well documented partner in crime, and as
- 24:47Speaker 1: we know, she was eventually charged with four counts relating
- 24:51Speaker 1: to procuring and transporting minors for illegal sex acts. Well,
- 24:55Speaker 1: at least he gets a right and calls her as
- 24:56Speaker 1: her partner in Epstein's partner in crime and not you know,
- 25:00Speaker 1: a pimp or a madam. When I finally got her
- 25:03Speaker 1: cell phone number from a source, she told me to
- 25:05Speaker 1: screw off and hung up. Ultimately, what made me decide
- 25:09Speaker 1: to abort this project was that I found it difficult
- 25:12Speaker 1: to keep reading the horror stories I look at and
- 25:15Speaker 1: look in the eyes of my twelve year old daughter. Look,
- 25:18Speaker 1: I get that one hundred percent if I had a daughter,
- 25:21Speaker 1: if I had children in general, I think this would
- 25:23Speaker 1: be a lot harder for me to cover. I think
- 25:25Speaker 1: that this would be the sort of thing that I
- 25:28Speaker 1: would look at and it would make my stomach turnover
- 25:33Speaker 1: and it would make me sick. But at the end
- 25:36Speaker 1: of the day, this is a story that needs to
- 25:38Speaker 1: be told. This is a story that cannot be swept
- 25:42Speaker 1: under the rug, and this is a situation that must
- 25:45Speaker 1: be met head on. I decided to drop the project
- 25:50Speaker 1: and make Prosecuting Evil, a more noble film about a
- 25:53Speaker 1: legendary prosecutor who was successfull successfully prosecuted Nazis. In reflection,
- 25:59Speaker 1: it became obvious that making this filmer series on Epstein
- 26:02Speaker 1: would involve having to do almost the inconceivable task of
- 26:06Speaker 1: untangling the devious web of conflict of interests that kept
- 26:10Speaker 1: Epstein virtually untouchable for decades. Well, look, man, not for
- 26:15Speaker 1: nothing but myself, Jen and Lisa over at the Prince
- 26:19Speaker 1: in the Pervert podcast, which is fantastic. If you don't
- 26:23Speaker 1: listen to that, you need to do that. That's what
- 26:25Speaker 1: we've been doing here. We've been using our own resources,
- 26:29Speaker 1: spending our own time to dig deep into this case.
- 26:32Speaker 1: So if I was a powerful filmmaker who had a
- 26:36Speaker 1: bunch of resources and people offering to make this film,
- 26:40Speaker 1: I don't care how depressing the topic is. I don't
- 26:43Speaker 1: care how much it's disturbing. I would dive in and
- 26:47Speaker 1: I would do my absolute best to bring the truth
- 26:50Speaker 1: to the masses. This included as powerful and rich friends,
- 26:58Speaker 1: politicians like a circuit court judge who continues to refuse
- 27:01Speaker 1: to unseal grand jury records related to Epstein's charges in
- 27:04Speaker 1: Florida almost fifteen years ago, and people like Alex Acosta,
- 27:08Speaker 1: who served in Donald Trump's cabinet with William Barr. Acosta
- 27:13Speaker 1: was the US attorney in Miami, where Epstein received a
- 27:15Speaker 1: shameful plea deal. Barr's father was the head master of
- 27:19Speaker 1: an elite New York school that hired college dropout Epstein
- 27:22Speaker 1: to teach math. I mean, really, how are you a
- 27:25Speaker 1: college dropout but you're getting a job at an elite
- 27:28Speaker 1: school like Dalton to teach math? I diagno, you did
- 27:32Speaker 1: it all on your resume, right. You didn't have anyone
- 27:35Speaker 1: helping you out. Darth. Barr's dad didn't pull any strings
- 27:38Speaker 1: for you or anything. Huh. On the day Epstein killed
- 27:42Speaker 1: himself allegedly, I was not surprised, and I do not
- 27:46Speaker 1: subscribe to any theory that he was murdered. In fact,
- 27:49Speaker 1: I was told by well placed sources that the jail
- 27:51Speaker 1: guards were paid off through his associates to look the
- 27:54Speaker 1: other way Wiley killed himself. Since the Filthy Rich series
- 27:58Speaker 1: has premiered, so many many people have asked me if
- 28:01Speaker 1: I feel I missed the opportunity or made a mistake
- 28:04Speaker 1: not pursuing the film. Well, that's fine. You can believe
- 28:07Speaker 1: that he wasn't murdered, and that's great. If you're going
- 28:09Speaker 1: to believe you're well placed sources. You know, I don't
- 28:12Speaker 1: know their names. I don't believe them. If I can't
- 28:15Speaker 1: vet it, I don't believe it. Folks, all right. Since
- 28:20Speaker 1: the Filthy Rich series has premiered, so many people have
- 28:23Speaker 1: asked me if I feel I missed the opportunity or
- 28:25Speaker 1: made a mistake not pursuing the film. My response is simple,
- 28:30Speaker 1: I am happy with how the story ends. Well, the
- 28:33Speaker 1: story is far from over, sir, so you might still
- 28:35Speaker 1: have a chance to dip your toes in if you're
- 28:38Speaker 1: not being scared. If you're not going to shy away
- 28:42Speaker 1: from the hard work, if you're willing to jump in
- 28:45Speaker 1: and make a documentary, then I am sure the survivors
- 28:49Speaker 1: and everybody else researching the case would be thankful. But
- 28:54Speaker 1: what this article really goes to show is that Gilen
- 28:58Speaker 1: Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were most certainly hanging out in
- 29:06Speaker 1: the timeframe when Maxwell said that they were not. It
- 29:09Speaker 1: establishes that she is a liar once again, and it
- 29:14Speaker 1: also tells us just how complicit Hollywood was in this
- 29:20Speaker 1: whole entire thing. They didn't want to even talk about it.
- 29:24Speaker 1: When your uber ride is longer than your meeting with
- 29:27Speaker 1: somebody you're pitching a film to, then you know the
- 29:31Speaker 1: fix is most certainly in. If you'd like to contact me,
- 29:36Speaker 1: you can do that at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 29:39Speaker 1: That's Bobby underscore cap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com.
- 29:45Speaker 1: You can also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore
- 29:49Speaker 1: cap u Cci. The link for this article is in
- 29:53Speaker 1: the description