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The Kenny Report | 7 August · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 3: Our frank admission that vaccine mandates were wrong from a
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Speaker 3: former premier who imposed them. We need a royal commission now.
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Speaker 3: The move to get New South Wales public servants back
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Speaker 3: to the office. I warned you it'd meet some resistance.
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Speaker 2: I'll check in on that debate in a moment too.
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Speaker 3: The Hummas terrorists who orchestrated the October the seventh atrocity
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Speaker 3: is the Islamus extremist.
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Speaker 2: Group's new leader.
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Speaker 3: In the US politics continues to deal in personal abuse,
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Speaker 3: but the ghost of Ronald Reagan elevates the tone. Pauline
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Speaker 3: Hansen joins me Claire Lehman on the boxing, gender wars
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Speaker 3: and the Wednesday Rangle with Liz and Justin.
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Speaker 2: Let's get into it tonight.
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Speaker 3: I want to highlight a brave and important admission from
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Speaker 3: a former state premier about the draconian but worthless vaccine
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Speaker 3: mandates that were imposed on most of us. So much
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Speaker 3: of what we're dealing with today, certainly the cost of
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Speaker 3: living crisis, the rampant inflation, the unsustainable government spending, our
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Speaker 3: lack of productivity growth, our mental health issues, our education crisis,
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Speaker 3: and our reckless immigration levels.
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Speaker 2: So much of this can.
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Speaker 3: Be traced to our overblown COVID pandemic response. You can
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Speaker 3: add to that our understandable mistrust of governments and the
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Speaker 3: disconnection between citizens.
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Speaker 2: And the media.
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Speaker 3: This has all been exacerbated by the way governments mistreated
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Speaker 3: us during the pandemic and the way they were encouraged
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Speaker 3: by mainstream media pumping out fear porn. This is why
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Speaker 3: we need a Royal commission into our COVID response. The
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Speaker 3: ab and easy labor government's pathetic excuse for an inquiry,
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Speaker 3: a superficial limited review conducted by hand picked insiders, represents
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Speaker 3: a broken promise and a slap in the face to voters.
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Speaker 2: Voters were good.
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Speaker 3: Enough to be locked down, apparently, good enough to have
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Speaker 3: their kids barred from school, good enough to have their
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Speaker 3: businesses shut down. Voters were good enough to have vaccines
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Speaker 3: forced on them, and good enough to be banned from
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Speaker 3: going to work, or going to the park, or crossing
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Speaker 3: state borders to see loved ones, or even from going
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Speaker 3: outside without a mask. They were good enough for all
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Speaker 3: these unscientific and illiberal restrictions. But voters apparently are not
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Speaker 3: good enough to get a proper inquiry to look at
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Speaker 3: what worked and what didn't, what was worthwhile and what
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Speaker 3: should never be contemplated ever again.
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Speaker 2: As you know, I've.
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Speaker 3: Been pushing for a royal commission for years, but neither
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Speaker 3: of the major parties nor most of the media want one,
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Speaker 3: because most of them will be embarrassed by what it uncovers.
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Speaker 2: Here on, this program highlighted.
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Speaker 3: So much of the overage over so many years, and
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Speaker 3: it was obvious from early on there never should have
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Speaker 3: been school closures.
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Speaker 2: There never should have been curfews, never.
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Speaker 3: Should have been mask mandates, and there never should have
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Speaker 3: been blanket state border closures. And of course there never
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Speaker 3: should have been vaccine mandates. Let me just refresh your
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Speaker 3: memory about some of the nonsense we were fed on vaccines.
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say to someone, I look, just
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Speaker 4: wait us out with you. Just just wait four or
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Speaker 4: five weeks and then you're about to go to the pub. No,
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Speaker 4: if you make the judgment to not get vaccinated and
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Speaker 4: you reckon, you can wait out us or the publican
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Speaker 4: or whoever you want to think you're waiting out. You
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Speaker 4: won't wait out the virus because the virus will be
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Speaker 4: here for a long time and your only protection against
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Speaker 4: it is being vaccinated.
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Speaker 5: We're urging everybody to come forward and get vaccinated. And
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Speaker 5: even if you've been vaccinated, please contact your loved ones,
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Speaker 5: check on them, ask them whether they've been vaccinated. Even
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Speaker 5: one dose protects them against severe disease, but also protects
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Speaker 5: everybody else because the transmissibility, their ability to spread it
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Speaker 5: more readily is vastly reduced.
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Speaker 6: Through The other change is in relation to mandatary vaccinations.
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Speaker 6: So are there a number of workers here in New
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Speaker 6: South Wales that we have deemed to be in high
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Speaker 6: risk settings. In those circumstances we have mandated vaccinations. We
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Speaker 6: will be moving to those mandates, including a booster shot.
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Speaker 2: It was all absolutely rubbish.
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Speaker 3: Of course, the vaccines did not stop the disease being
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Speaker 3: transmitted and they didn't stop us being infected. That's why
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Speaker 3: the mandates were absolutely pointless. The vaccines lessened the chances
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Speaker 3: of severe illness, of course, vital for the elderly and
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Speaker 3: the vulnerable, but the data was clear from early on
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Speaker 3: that healthy young people didn't need them, and that they
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Speaker 3: didn't The vaccines didn't stop the disease from spreading.
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Speaker 2: Therefore, the mandates.
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Speaker 3: Were absolutely pointless, an overreaction that costs some people their
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Speaker 3: good health with vaccine injuries forced many people to do
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Speaker 3: what they didn't want to do, and they forced others
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Speaker 3: out of their job. Nurses, teachers, police, firefighters. So many
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Speaker 3: people were forced to get the JAB to keep their job.
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Speaker 3: And then there was the rest of us. Remember we
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Speaker 3: had to get vaccine passports. We had to show our
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Speaker 3: vaccine status to get into places.
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Speaker 2: What a disgrace. I think I've still got mine here
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Speaker 2: on my phone, just to remind.
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Speaker 3: Me about how quickly we can cave into authoritarian governments.
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Speaker 3: I used to say on this show that the vaccine
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Speaker 3: should be available to everyone, but forced on nobody, and
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Speaker 3: that was based on expert advice that was available at
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Speaker 3: the time. The politicians didn't listen. Then they were caught
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Speaker 3: up in their own power. But at least yesterday, the
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Speaker 3: former Premier of New South Wales, Dominic Perrote, in his
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Speaker 3: farewell speech from Parliament, admitted that the mandates were wrong.
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Speaker 3: Perote says government's got more right than they got wrong,
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Speaker 3: but he says one major mistake was the strict enforcement
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Speaker 3: of vaccine mandates.
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Speaker 6: Health officials and governments were acting with the right intentions
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Speaker 6: to stop the spread. But if the impact of vaccines
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Speaker 6: on transmission was limited best as is now mostly accepted,
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Speaker 6: the law should have left more room for respect of freedom.
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Speaker 6: Vaccines saved lives, but ultimately mandates were wrong. People's personal
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Speaker 6: choices shouldn't have cost them their jobs. When I became premier,
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Speaker 6: we remove them all the ones we actually could. But
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Speaker 6: this should have happened faster, and if a pandemic comes again,
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Speaker 6: we need to get a better balance. Encouraging people to
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Speaker 6: take action was at the same time protecting people's fundamental liberty.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, said dominic Perrote. There's more self, self reflection
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Speaker 3: and truth in those few words than we've heard from
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Speaker 3: any other politicians since the COVID pandemic. My only equivalent
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Speaker 3: is that he says, all this is clear with hindsight. Well, sure,
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Speaker 3: it's unarguable now, but it was pretty obvious at the
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Speaker 3: time if you bothered to look into it. Remember, there
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Speaker 3: are still people in this country kept from their jobs
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Speaker 3: by vaccine mandates right now. It's outrageous, it's unfair, it's stupid, counterproductive,
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Speaker 3: and it's a blatant infringement of individual rights. We need
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Speaker 3: that Royal Commission. So long as the politicians refuse to
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Speaker 3: hold a COVID royal commission, they are telling us that
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Speaker 3: they're not worthy of our trust. Now across sit in
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Speaker 3: the United States, Kamala Harris, the current Vice president and
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Speaker 3: now the Democrat candidate.
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Speaker 2: For the presidential election.
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Speaker 3: She's chosen her running mate, and it's a bit of
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Speaker 3: a surprise. Harris has opted for someone as left wing
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Speaker 3: as she is, or liberal as the Americans would say.
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Speaker 3: And he is Tim Waltz, the governor of Minnesota, which
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Speaker 3: isn't even a swing state. Waltz is from the liberal left,
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Speaker 3: the big government and socially progressive wing of the party.
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Speaker 2: So they call it hard left or green left or
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Speaker 2: uber liberal.
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Speaker 3: This Democrat Democrat ticket is going to be the most
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Speaker 3: left leaning in decades, reflecting the sort of values that
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris has spouted for years.
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Speaker 7: You know, we have to stay woke, like everybody needs
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Speaker 7: to be woke. And you can talk about.
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Speaker 8: If you're the wolkist or woker, just stay more woke
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Speaker 8: than less woke.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we've got to be woken. Laugh a lot.
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Speaker 3: The big question for the Democrats is whether a woke
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Speaker 3: ticket will actually attract enough mine mainstream votes, which is
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Speaker 3: why the selection of Waltz as a running mate seems
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Speaker 3: pretty odd. He's been governor in Minnesota for five years
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Speaker 3: and doesn't have a strong record, but at least he's
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Speaker 3: run a government, which is more than Harris has ever done.
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Speaker 3: Of course, perhaps his age and experience are important for
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Speaker 3: the electoral optics. His state of Minnesota, at least is
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Speaker 3: in the Midwest, neighboring some of the swing states. It's
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Speaker 3: where the Black Lives Riot Blackslves Riots began, of course,
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Speaker 3: four years ago after the murder of George Floyd by
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Speaker 3: police on a Minneapolis street, and Waltz has been criticized
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Speaker 3: for being too slow to bring in the National Guard
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Speaker 3: back then, so he'll be attacked on law and order
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Speaker 3: for sure. The more logical choice would have been Pennsylvania
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Speaker 3: Governor Josh Shapiro. His state is so crucial and could
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Speaker 3: well decide the election, so we'll have to speculate about
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Speaker 3: why he wasn't chosen. Many believe it's because he's Jewish
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Speaker 3: and has spoken out in support of Israel, something that
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Speaker 3: hard left Democrats find hard to stomach. Others argue he
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Speaker 3: might be a little too dynamic and could have shown
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Speaker 3: up Harris either way.
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Speaker 2: He was happy to host and.
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Speaker 3: Introduce Harris and Waltz in his own state for the
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Speaker 3: VEEP announcement. But I want to show you a few
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Speaker 3: clips from that event, and I think they just show
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Speaker 3: you how toxic American politics has begun, it has become,
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Speaker 3: and also just how little the Democrats have to say.
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Speaker 3: Introducing the ticket, the presidential campaign ticket, Shapiro referenced Waltz's
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Speaker 3: assessments of Donald Trump's running mate JD.
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Speaker 2: Vance sim Walls.
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Speaker 6: In his beautiful, Midwestern and clean spoken way, he summed
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Speaker 6: up JD.
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Speaker 2: Vance the best. He's a weirdo.
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Speaker 3: Really, he's a widow. And the crowd chance he's a
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Speaker 3: widow and they laugh about it. That's not political debate.
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Speaker 3: That's not policy proposals or political points scoring, is it.
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Speaker 3: That's just abuse, personal abuse, pure and simple. And when
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Speaker 3: it was time for Waltz to speak, he turned his
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Speaker 3: sights on Trump's record as president on law and order.
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Speaker 9: Violent crime was up under Donald Trump. That's not even
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Speaker 9: counting the crimes he committed.
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Speaker 3: Okay, some reference to issues and facts there, I guess,
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Speaker 3: but still overwhelmingly that's about abuse. He's talking about violent crimes.
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Speaker 3: It's about abuse and demonizing Trump as a criminal, which
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Speaker 3: of course is why so many Democrat prosecutors works so
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Speaker 3: hard to prosecute Trump over something, over anything. And then
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Speaker 3: came the Democrats presidential candidate, riffing again off her previous
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Speaker 3: career as an attorney and prosecutor.
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Speaker 7: So in those.
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Speaker 8: Roles, I took on perpetrators of all kinds, Predators who
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Speaker 8: abused women, fraudsters who scammed consumers, cheaters who broke the rules.
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Speaker 7: For their own game.
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Speaker 8: So hear me when I say.
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Speaker 7: I know Donald Trump's type.
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Speaker 3: She keeps coming out with that line. It's just abuse, though,
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Speaker 3: isn't it. It's just abusing Trump.
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Speaker 2: That's all it is. Now.
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Speaker 3: I don't expect anyone to be shedding a tear for
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump. I don't think anyone should be worried about
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Speaker 3: hurting his feelings. Trump doesn't mind throwing around a bit
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Speaker 3: of ugly personal abuse himself. And I'm certainly no apologist
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Speaker 3: for Trump. But for more than eight years now, the
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Speaker 3: Democrats have said they claim the high moral ground.
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Speaker 2: So there's two points.
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Speaker 3: Worth making here. The first is about hypocrisy. If the
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Speaker 3: Democrats are going to claim that they stand for better
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Speaker 3: values in politics, for civil debate, for protecting democracy, then
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Speaker 3: they ought to practice what they preach, not just engage
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Speaker 3: in personal abuse and character assassination. Especially after the assassination
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Speaker 3: attempt on Trump, the Democrats were supposed to be talking
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Speaker 3: about lowering the temperature and taking the menace out of
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Speaker 3: public debate.
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Speaker 2: Well that didn't last too long at all, did it.
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Speaker 3: And second, it's about being smart, it's about adopting an
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Speaker 3: electoral strategy that might work. And the Democrats have been
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Speaker 3: abusing Donald Trump for more than eight years. Their personal
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Speaker 3: attacks and unrelenting smears didn't stop him being elected in
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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, did they. The attacks probably didn't even hurt
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Speaker 3: him in the twenty twenty election when his vote went up,
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Speaker 3: but he lost because the Democrat vote went up even higher.
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Speaker 3: And in the four years since then, the Democrats constant
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Speaker 3: abuse hasn't stopped him from winning the nomination again, or
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Speaker 3: leading in the polls, or seeing off Joe Biden, who's
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Speaker 3: had to withdraw. So if abusing Donald Trump hasn't worked
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Speaker 3: for the Democrats in the past, if it's actually been
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Speaker 3: wind beneath Trump's wings, then maybe they need to find
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Speaker 3: something else to say. By the way, I want to
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Speaker 3: show you the latest Republican ad and it kind of
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Speaker 3: goes in the opposite direction. It avoids the abrasiveness of
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Speaker 3: Trump by using the words of Ronald Reagan from an
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Speaker 3: old Reagan ad with pictures updated to twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 10: Is there more or less unemployment in the country than
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Speaker 10: there was four years ago? Is America as respected throughout
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Speaker 10: the world as it was? Do you feel that our
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Speaker 10: security is a set that we're as strong as we
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Speaker 10: were four years ago? If you don't think that this
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Speaker 10: course that we've been on for the last four years
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Speaker 10: is what you would like to see us foll owver
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Speaker 10: the next four then I could suggest another choice that you.
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Speaker 2: Have and Trump he'll make America greet again.
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Speaker 3: How about that? One more for the Gipper from beyond
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Speaker 3: the grave? Pretty smart ad man. Wouldn't it be good
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Speaker 3: to get Ronald Reagan back. Let's go to Queensland now
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Speaker 3: and catch up with One Nation leader. Pauline Hansom joins
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Speaker 3: us from Scenic Grim. Good to talk to you, Pauline. Now,
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Speaker 3: I've got to get your reaction to what Dominic Perete
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Speaker 3: has confessed to. He's a man who imposed vaccine mandates.
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Speaker 2: Now admitting it was wrong.
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Speaker 3: Good on him for doing that, But what are these
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Speaker 3: politicians doing to fix it. There are still mandates in place,
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Speaker 3: there are still people kept from their jobs, and nobody
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Speaker 3: wants to actually talk about it.
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Speaker 11: Good arning for saying it now, but it's a little
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Speaker 11: bit too little, too late, especially when he's got a
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Speaker 11: good job, international job now overseas and he's going to
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Speaker 11: be out of the country. The whole fact is the
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Speaker 11: politicians are not made being made accountable for their comments
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Speaker 11: or for.
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Speaker 7: Their mistakes that they make.
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Speaker 11: And you know, I was held down for my stance
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Speaker 11: on this, Chris constantly, time and time again. And the
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Speaker 11: fact is people knew. They weren't listening to people. They're
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Speaker 11: not following the right advice. How Come I could get
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Speaker 11: advice about having the JAB, the mandates, the lockdown of
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Speaker 11: the borders, and all the rest of it, And yet
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Speaker 11: they have all their advisors, all the health officials, everyone
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Speaker 11: else around them, and they can't get it right. It
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Speaker 11: just thinks to high heavens about politics being played out here.
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Speaker 11: It's about controlling the people, and that's what people are
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Speaker 11: fed up with. The politicians making false promises. Then once
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Speaker 11: they're not in the position anymore. We're saying, oh, well, sorry,
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Speaker 11: I got it wrong to so what you know, get
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Speaker 11: on with our lives.
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Speaker 7: No, it's not good enough. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: It's just a problem that there's no push for a
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Speaker 3: proper royal commission. Neither of the major parties is very interested.
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Speaker 3: As I say, most of the media are not interested.
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Speaker 3: And I've got to say most of the public.
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Speaker 11: It's not it's not and I'll tell the public this right.
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Speaker 11: There has to be accountability for what happened in Australia.
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Speaker 11: I'm still fighting for the firefighters from New South Wales
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Speaker 11: and Victoria who lost their jobs over this. The mandates
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Speaker 11: were not imposed on the firefighters still working, yet they
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Speaker 11: couldn't get their jobs back. I'm still seeking a nurse's
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Speaker 11: health professionals, even doctors and other ones who lost their
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Speaker 11: professions because of the decisions made by these premiers and
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Speaker 11: by this Prime Minister at the time and the cabinet.
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Speaker 7: No, there has to be accountability, Chris.
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Speaker 11: If we don't push for this, they can do whatever
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Speaker 11: they want to know and they can walk away and
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Speaker 11: just wash the hands of it.
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Speaker 2: It's not good enough.
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Speaker 11: I will keep pushing until we get a Royal commission
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Speaker 11: and hopefully after the next election, and I will promise
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Speaker 11: people this, if one nation has a balance of power
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Speaker 11: in the Senate, I will push to have that royal commission.
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Speaker 11: And we're going to try and get a commitment out
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Speaker 11: of the government because I'll have the balance of power.
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Speaker 7: Good for it, because the people deserve it.
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Speaker 2: They sure do. The country needs it. That people deserve it.
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Speaker 3: And let's see if we can get the coalition to
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Speaker 3: make make it an election promise. Perhaps I just want
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Speaker 3: to bring you back to state politics in your home state,
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Speaker 3: and this Stephen Miles character, he comes up with all
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Speaker 3: sorts of weird and wonderful ones. Now he's going to
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Speaker 3: have government owned petrol stations. Are you looking forward to that?
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Speaker 7: But an absolutely joke he is.
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Speaker 11: You know, all this wish list that they're throwing around,
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Speaker 11: you know the fifty cents that they've started, now the
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Speaker 11: transport putting the state what six billion dollar debt that's
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Speaker 11: going to you know, robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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Speaker 7: The taxpayer is going to have to pick up the bill.
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Speaker 12: Here.
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Speaker 11: They are desperate, they are so desperate to win this
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Speaker 11: next election. And I hope people don't fall for this
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Speaker 11: false promises. He needs to be held to account. There's
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Speaker 11: no business model for it. It was not costed. They
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Speaker 11: can't afford. You know, the government can't go and set
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Speaker 11: up their own service stations.
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Speaker 7: It is absolutely ridiculus.
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Speaker 3: The the wa't governments runs.
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Speaker 7: I knint of run the ambulances.
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Speaker 3: Exactly the way governments run things. We'll all run out
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Speaker 3: of petrol before too long. But he's going to get
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Speaker 3: He's not going to go down without trying everything, throwing
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Speaker 3: everything at it.
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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing though. Thanks for joining us, Paulker.
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Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: Come on, I've just done an editorial, so we can't
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Speaker 3: just have political abuse next place.
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Speaker 2: You've got to do better than wanker. That's me.
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Speaker 7: That's me, Chris, So, that's me, and I say well,
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Speaker 7: I think.
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Speaker 3: Well, I reckon he's putting up a lot of crazy ideas,
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Speaker 3: and I reckon he's hopeless. I reckon he's putting up
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Speaker 3: crazy ideas and I'd love to talk to him sometimes.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Pauline Hanson. There one nation leader
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Speaker 3: joining his life from Queensland. I want to go to
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Speaker 3: New South Wales. Politics now and a move here that
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Speaker 3: affects the whole country. I talked about it earlier this week,
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Speaker 3: a couple of times actually, and the Labor Premier and
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Speaker 3: New South Wales Chris Min's has decided to put out
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Speaker 3: a call to bring all the New South Wales pub
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Speaker 3: servants back to the office.
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Speaker 2: They're supposed to turn up back in the office. I
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Speaker 2: told you though, it wouldn't.
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Speaker 3: Go down completely smoothly, and already there is resistance. I'm
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Speaker 3: joined now by the Shadow Treasurer, Damien Tudor.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Damien. First up, you'd welcome Chris
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Speaker 2: Bins's move here, wouldn't you say?
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Speaker 13: This?
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Speaker 2: All right? Pandemic is ancient history.
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Speaker 3: Now the onus is on you now to turn up
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Speaker 3: back at the office for your job.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: I welcome the idea that people should have a workplace
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Speaker 1: where they're going to but this is a thought bubble announcement.
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Speaker 1: If you don't do the work before making the announcement,
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Speaker 1: all you're going to do is create confusion both for
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Speaker 1: businesses and for employees in relation to what is expected
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Speaker 1: of them.
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Speaker 2: We have created a.
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Speaker 1: Circumstance where we have gone out governments rightly or wrongly,
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Speaker 1: and marketed more flexibility in the workplace and in those circumstances,
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Speaker 1: people have made lifetime decisions relating to those work choices, luting,
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Speaker 1: potentially moving home, potentially getting childcare arrangements and cost of
21:05
Speaker 1: living factors which they have built into their lives based
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Speaker 1: on a flexibility which surrounds working arrangements now, but this was.
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Speaker 2: Brought in COVID.
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Speaker 3: People shouldn't assume that this is going to go on
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Speaker 3: forever and no one and there's still going to be flexibility,
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Speaker 3: as is clear.
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Speaker 2: But the onus is generally you have a job, you
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Speaker 2: turn up where that job.
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Speaker 1: Is, and the job for many people is where they
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Speaker 1: currently are residing. And I'll give you an example, Chris,
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Speaker 1: when I was the minister, we had revenue New South
21:37
Speaker 1: Wales made decisions in respect of how they would operate
21:40
Speaker 1: and working from home became an opportunity for many people
21:44
Speaker 1: to adopt more flexible arrangements in relation to their work situation.
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Speaker 1: The true test is is whether they are productive, not
21:52
Speaker 1: whether exactly necessarily are in a different workplace. But you
21:55
Speaker 1: can be productive working from home. And we used to
21:58
Speaker 1: have metrics you could apply the number of calls which
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Speaker 1: you had made, the number of issues which you had
22:04
Speaker 1: followed up and you could track it in terms of
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Speaker 1: ensuring productivity, so the test should be productivity before in fact,
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Speaker 1: just making the announcement now we had today are farcial
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Speaker 1: circumstances where the Minister but Women hadn't been consulted in
22:18
Speaker 1: relation to this amountment. The Treasurer had done no modeling
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Speaker 1: in relation to this announcement. The research hadn't been done
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Speaker 1: or consultation.
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Speaker 3: Give me a break, there There was no modeling or
22:33
Speaker 3: research when they did this. They just said everybody stay
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Speaker 3: home and you have to work from home, and it
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Speaker 3: was brought in from COVID. Of course, of course there's
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Speaker 3: flexibility there now that people need to use. But you
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Speaker 3: can't tell me surely that the coalition parties now the
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Speaker 3: parties of private enterprise and small government, are going to
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Speaker 3: be backing in the public sector unions saying everybody can
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Speaker 3: do their job from home.
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Speaker 1: I am not saying that at all, and you should
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Speaker 1: know that because what I'm saying is that you don't
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Speaker 1: have policy by a media release. You do the work
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Speaker 1: beforehand to make sure you take your workforce with you,
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Speaker 1: and that is exactly what has not happened in this place.
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Speaker 1: We haven't talked to those people who have moved to
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Speaker 1: the Central Coast order Wollongong to ascertain what their view
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Speaker 1: is in relation to making sure that they can get
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Speaker 1: to their workplace in the way that we are directing.
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Speaker 2: Them to do. All right, well, you spend should have
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Speaker 2: been done and what we have, what do we have?
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Speaker 7: We have.
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Speaker 1: The secretary of the Transport Department saying forget about the announcement,
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Speaker 1: We'll work the same way we are. We're seeing Phil
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Speaker 1: Min's who's the uncle of the premier, saying don't worry
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Speaker 1: about the announcement.
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Speaker 2: We've got to work through this.
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Speaker 1: We've seen union's New South Wales also discrediting the announcement.
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Speaker 1: Whilst I agree with you that return to the workplace
23:43
Speaker 1: is desirable, what you have to do is think it
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Speaker 1: through before you make your media release.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I get your point, but I think mens
23:52
Speaker 3: might be a bit smarter than that, because as soon
23:53
Speaker 3: as you raise this issue, all those groups you just
23:56
Speaker 3: mentioned and all the unions would have been arcing up.
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Speaker 3: But I reckon better just to put out the principal
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Speaker 3: and then work backwards to put it in place. But
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Speaker 3: I appreciate your input, Damien, thanks for joining us. Damien
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Speaker 3: tut I Hope, who's the shadow treasurer in New South Wales.
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Speaker 2: Let us know what you think of this issue.
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Speaker 3: I know everyone loves flexibility, that'll be there forever, but
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Speaker 3: the owners should be turn up to work.
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Speaker 2: That's the starting point.
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Speaker 3: Your job is where the job began, where you applied
24:20
Speaker 3: for the job, where you were appointed. Now we're going
24:22
Speaker 3: to have a break on the other side of that,
24:23
Speaker 3: we're going to buy into this gender controversy at the
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Speaker 3: Olympic Olympics, the women's boxing controversy. Now at the Olympics,
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Speaker 3: the controversial Algerian boxer in Main Khalif will now fight
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Speaker 3: for the gold medal on Saturday morning, our time in
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Speaker 3: the women's sixty six kilogram final from the center of
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Speaker 3: a gender storm where Khalif was banned by boxing authorities
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Speaker 3: because test showed X and Y chromosome's giving her a
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Speaker 3: manly testosterone advantage, but it has now been allowed to
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Speaker 3: fight at the Olympics as a woman.
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Speaker 2: She's now guaranteed least a silver metal.
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Speaker 3: The founding editor of collect magazine and columnists at The Australian,
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Speaker 3: Claire Lehman, has written about this with some insights.
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Speaker 2: She joins me now clear this is a difficult issue,
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Speaker 2: isn't it, Although you have very clear views on it.
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Speaker 3: But we've had these transgender inquiries and controversies where biological
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Speaker 3: men effectively are playing against women.
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Speaker 2: This is different, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: She seems to that they don't give us all the details,
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Speaker 3: but she falls into an intersex category.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a tricky one because athletes who are intersex,
25:34
Speaker 12: or the more up to date term is athletes who
25:37
Speaker 12: have disorders of sexual development. They have grown up thinking
25:41
Speaker 12: that they are female biologically female. So the disorder of
25:47
Speaker 12: sex development that is most commonly seen in athletes is
25:51
Speaker 12: a disorder. There's two disorders. They're disorders of male development.
25:55
Speaker 12: So what happens is when a baby is growing in utero,
26:00
Speaker 12: a certain protein gets switched off, which means some of
26:03
Speaker 12: their male physiology doesn't develop.
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Speaker 2: Like it should.
26:07
Speaker 12: So when they're born, they appear female on the outside,
26:10
Speaker 12: so they're raised as girls. But then when they hit
26:15
Speaker 12: puberty they have internal testes. These start pumping out testosterone
26:20
Speaker 12: and other androgens, which gives them a masculinized skeletal structure,
26:26
Speaker 12: big muscles, bigger lungs, bigger heart, all of the advantages
26:30
Speaker 12: that men have when it comes to sports performance. So
26:33
Speaker 12: this is extremely vexed issue. On the one hand, we
26:36
Speaker 12: want to be sensitive to these athletes who aren't actually
26:39
Speaker 12: cheating and they're not breaking the rules. On the other hand,
26:42
Speaker 12: we have to think about why we have the female
26:45
Speaker 12: category in sports in the first place, and what does
26:49
Speaker 12: it mean to have a female category.
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Speaker 2: No, I think that's important.
26:52
Speaker 3: You have sympathy, especially in this case for the athlete,
26:54
Speaker 3: because people are saying, this is sort of a trans
26:56
Speaker 3: athlete who is essentially getting around the bios. She falls
27:01
Speaker 3: into this difficult area, as you say, but you still
27:04
Speaker 3: have the situation where she's clearly has a gender advantage
27:08
Speaker 3: and the women competitors clearly are at a disadvantage, and
27:11
Speaker 3: we've seen that play out very dramatically and emotionally, and
27:15
Speaker 3: common sense has to be on the side of keeping
27:18
Speaker 3: the integrity of the woman's competition.
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Speaker 12: I think, and I think the key thing in this
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Speaker 12: situation because this has been a situation that has played
27:25
Speaker 12: out in athletics before, but now we're talking about boxing,
27:29
Speaker 12: and if you put a female boxer in the ring
27:33
Speaker 12: with a male boxer, she can get killed. And so
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Speaker 12: the issue isn't just about you know, fairness and inclusion
27:40
Speaker 12: and being sensitive. It's actually about safety. And I personally
27:44
Speaker 12: think that the IOC and not having more strict rules
27:47
Speaker 12: in place about who can participate in the female category,
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Speaker 12: i e. They don't do a genetic test, they don't
27:53
Speaker 12: do any tests other than look at your passport, which
27:55
Speaker 12: can be forged you b way. Because the IC have
27:59
Speaker 12: such like basic or substandard rules, I think they're really
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Speaker 12: actually putting women's sport at risk and women's safety at risk.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is what the boxing authorities say, because while
28:11
Speaker 3: the Olympic Federation happy to say there's a female passport
28:15
Speaker 3: so you can compete, the boxing authorities have Banker Leaf
28:19
Speaker 3: and others have a look as how they describe.
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Speaker 13: It to the Unfortunately, we are witnessing the feilure the
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Speaker 13: death of women female boxing.
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Speaker 2: And that's not an overstatement.
28:35
Speaker 3: I would have thought that it has to be the
28:37
Speaker 3: death of female boxing. If you go in there against
28:40
Speaker 3: someone who's physiologically male, Yeah.
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Speaker 12: I mean who's going to train, Who's going to spend
28:46
Speaker 12: all of that time training trying to get to the
28:49
Speaker 12: Olympics if they know they can just step in there
28:52
Speaker 12: with someone who has the equivalent advantages of doping of
28:55
Speaker 12: taking steroids, but they're allowed to and the testing is.
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Speaker 3: There, the tests have been we know the physiology. Why
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Speaker 3: the Olympic Committee or the Olympic Federation wouldn't just accept
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Speaker 3: that is beyond me.
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Speaker 12: I agree, I definitely agree, and let's hope the situation
29:11
Speaker 12: gets resolved soon because we really don't want to see
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Speaker 12: more women getting punched in the face by people with
29:17
Speaker 12: X Y chromosomes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Thanks for joining us, Claire. I really appreciate
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Speaker 2: Claire Lemon that.
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Speaker 3: You can read her stuff in The Australian and in
29:24
Speaker 3: Collette magazine. We're going to get to a break on
29:26
Speaker 3: the other side, we're going to be heading to Paris
29:28
Speaker 3: to get the latest on the Olympic Games.
29:29
Speaker 2: Also going to catch up with Michael Schubridge as Hummus.
29:32
Speaker 3: Announce as their new leader after the assassination of Ismael Hunya.
29:42
Speaker 3: There was more gold for Australia overnight and last I
29:45
Speaker 3: saw we were still ahead of the host nation on
29:48
Speaker 3: the metal tally. Let's cross straight to Paris now and
29:50
Speaker 3: catch up with Fox Sports News reporter Luke Doherty. Thanks
29:52
Speaker 3: for joining us again, Luke, and last night, as far
29:56
Speaker 3: as Australia is concerned.
29:57
Speaker 2: It was all about teenagers and their skateboard.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: Indeed, who would have thought that we'd be celebrating skateboarding
30:08
Speaker 14: gold at the Olympics. And it's actually the second straight
30:11
Speaker 14: games that it's happened. We could have another one tonight
30:13
Speaker 14: with Keegan Palmer as well, but today is all about
30:17
Speaker 14: fourteen year old Arissa True. I don't know what you
30:19
Speaker 14: were doing at fourteen, Chris, but I certainly wasn't winning
30:22
Speaker 14: gold medals or have the maturity to handle the pressure
30:25
Speaker 14: that comes along with winning gold medals either. She fell
30:27
Speaker 14: on her first run too, so then she had to
30:30
Speaker 14: be absolutely clinical in her second and third runs, and
30:33
Speaker 14: she was just that in front of skate legend Tony
30:36
Speaker 14: Hawk as well, no less, who says that she has
30:39
Speaker 14: tricks in her bag that just simply no other competitor has.
30:42
Speaker 14: She was a red hot favorite for gold as well.
30:44
Speaker 14: She came in with a first and a second placing
30:46
Speaker 14: in the Olympic Qualifying Series events prior to these Games,
30:49
Speaker 14: where these skaters booked their spot at Paris twenty twenty four,
30:52
Speaker 14: so not totally unexpected, but you still have to get
30:54
Speaker 14: the job done, and this is what our Golden girl,
30:57
Speaker 14: our fourteen year old had to say of it all, it.
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Speaker 15: Feels amazing having the gold medal around my neck. It's
31:04
Speaker 15: been like my goal since watching the Tokyo twenty twenty Olympics.
31:08
Speaker 15: Just like that inspired me and wanted me, made me
31:10
Speaker 15: want to come to like this Olympics and just like
31:14
Speaker 15: get to the podium, which is like amazing.
31:17
Speaker 2: Oh I love that, Luke I saw it go to
31:19
Speaker 2: it earlier.
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Speaker 3: She's talking about her long term goal of three years ago.
31:23
Speaker 2: Three years seems a long time when you're fourteen.
31:26
Speaker 3: Just fantastic stuff for fantastic indeed, And.
31:29
Speaker 2: In the velodrome, a world record to the Gaussies. Yeah
31:36
Speaker 2: and day.
31:36
Speaker 14: This is our men's team for shooters and it was
31:38
Speaker 14: against Italy as well, the previous world record holders. So
31:42
Speaker 14: there's a little salt in the wound for the Italians
31:45
Speaker 14: on the way through for our Aussie men as well,
31:47
Speaker 14: and they're going to ride for gold in the early
31:50
Speaker 14: hours of tomorrow morning.
31:51
Speaker 2: And this one is going.
31:52
Speaker 14: To be blockbuster stuff because it is against our fierce rivals,
31:56
Speaker 14: Great Britain Chris, so it's going to be the ashes
31:59
Speaker 14: on so that is going to be fantastic. We also
32:02
Speaker 14: had bronze yesterday and the men's team sprint to the
32:05
Speaker 14: last time our Ossie team sprinters for man one bronze
32:09
Speaker 14: was at Sydney in two thousand and it's been twenty
32:11
Speaker 14: four long years, five Olympic cycles of coming fourth, just.
32:16
Speaker 2: Off the podium.
32:17
Speaker 14: So they've broken the hoodoo.
32:18
Speaker 3: Fantastic stuff, but up against the Poms, you beauty. I
32:23
Speaker 3: got to say, I watched a bit of the basketball
32:25
Speaker 3: last night and the Boomers were going great guns.
32:28
Speaker 2: Paddy Mills was on fire. They were about twenty points
32:31
Speaker 2: up or fifteen points.
32:32
Speaker 3: Up when I told Loffer it all went pear shaped.
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Speaker 14: Later on though, yeah, you got to keep watching Chris,
32:42
Speaker 14: that might be the trick never changed the channel. I
32:45
Speaker 14: was there at the Bercy Arena, that is for sure,
32:47
Speaker 14: and it was in the second quarter they were up
32:50
Speaker 14: by twenty four points. Will come and Hoes. The mood
32:53
Speaker 14: amongst all of everyone in the crowd was that this
32:55
Speaker 14: is done. The Aussies are through to the semi finals.
32:58
Speaker 14: But they had a shocker of a third quarter, gave
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Speaker 14: up the biggest lead in Olympic history to crash out
33:04
Speaker 14: of this competition. In questions now asked around the future
33:07
Speaker 14: of the veterans have been the backbone of this side
33:09
Speaker 14: for so long. Paddi Mills, Joe Ingles, Matthew Delabadover. Paddi
33:13
Speaker 14: Mills wouldn't say yesterday whether this was he going to
33:16
Speaker 14: be his last games, but it's going to be around
33:19
Speaker 14: about thirty seven thirty eight by the time the next
33:21
Speaker 14: game's roll around in La So scenes unlikely, but no
33:23
Speaker 14: one would rule him out. Yesterday he had twenty six points,
33:26
Speaker 14: was the star of the show, leading all scorers in
33:29
Speaker 14: a defeat, so who's to rule him out, But it
33:31
Speaker 14: does look unlikely.
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Speaker 3: Unbelievable stuff. Thanks so much, Luke, appreciate it. Luke Doherdy,
33:36
Speaker 3: you're live in Paris. About the talking about the fourteen
33:39
Speaker 3: year olds and the thirty seven and thirty eight year olds.
33:42
Speaker 3: Now let's get back to some of the worrying situations
33:44
Speaker 3: in global affairs, and particularly in the Middle East, when
33:48
Speaker 3: it becomes when we talk about Iran and what they're
33:50
Speaker 3: planning to do in retaliation to Israel.
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Speaker 2: I'm joined now by.
33:54
Speaker 3: Michael Schubridge from Strategic Analysis Australia.
33:57
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you again, Michael.
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Speaker 3: World of waits, of course, what Iran will do to
34:04
Speaker 3: make Israel pay for the assassination of the Humus leader
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Speaker 3: Ismael Hanya in Tehran. At the same time, Hamas have
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Speaker 3: named their new leader, and it's Jaya Sinowa, who of
34:16
Speaker 3: course will know is as the leader of the of
34:20
Speaker 3: the terrorist operation in Gaza. Does the Sinewa leadership surprise
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Speaker 3: you and he is he known to be still in Gaza?
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Speaker 16: Well, it surprises me that Hamas really want to double
34:33
Speaker 16: down on violence as the answer. But then it's in
34:37
Speaker 16: their charter that they want to exterminate Israelis and the
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Speaker 16: state of Israel, So I suppose it's not that surprising.
34:44
Speaker 16: I think it sends a signal that there is going
34:47
Speaker 16: to be no negotiation anytime soon. Simwa was the leader
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Speaker 16: of the seventh of October attacks. He's got a history
34:55
Speaker 16: of violence. He's a true terrorist, and it's interesting everyone's
35:00
Speaker 16: getting very nostalgic about Ania, the guy that the Israelis assassinated.
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Speaker 16: But he wasn't a moderate either. Looking for moderation in
35:11
Speaker 16: a terrorist organization is like looking for sunlight at night.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is ludicrous, But he is in Gaza. Isn't
35:21
Speaker 3: he Sinoara leading your operation? Unless he's escaped through a
35:24
Speaker 3: tunnel to Egypt or whatever.
35:26
Speaker 2: He will be in Gaza.
35:27
Speaker 3: And obviously he's a prime target for the Israeli defense
35:32
Speaker 3: forces and has been all along, but they'll be even
35:35
Speaker 3: more important. He'll be even a more valued target now surely.
35:39
Speaker 16: Well, yes, he was already on the top of Israel's
35:43
Speaker 16: most wanted list. He's listed as a terrorist leader by
35:47
Speaker 16: the US, so it's not a news threat to him.
35:51
Speaker 16: But it's hard to really see a leader that can't
35:54
Speaker 16: show his face being any part of peace negotiation. So
35:59
Speaker 16: this isms trying to dictate to Iran and his Bolla
36:04
Speaker 16: that they want a wider war. But Iran doesn't seem
36:10
Speaker 16: interested in a wider war, and they seem quite confused
36:13
Speaker 16: about what response they need to make.
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Speaker 3: This is where we need a strong America, right and
36:19
Speaker 3: let's hope strong enough at the current time.
36:21
Speaker 2: But Iran, we don't want them to be.
36:25
Speaker 3: Tempted into taking such a dramatic action against Israel that
36:29
Speaker 3: it sparks a wider war as time goes on. Are
36:33
Speaker 3: we more confident that an Iranian response might be more measured?
36:39
Speaker 16: Well, I think the fact that the Iranians haven't acted
36:42
Speaker 16: quickly and just reacted in shock and anger tells US
36:47
Speaker 16: they know they have to calibrate what they do. They've
36:50
Speaker 16: already said they don't want a wider war. They're a
36:53
Speaker 16: very unpopular regime at home and a war is not
36:57
Speaker 16: going to help that. So I think the Iranians are
37:00
Speaker 16: trying to find a way of attacking Israel that somehow
37:06
Speaker 16: ends the embarrassment of not being able to control security
37:10
Speaker 16: in the middle of Tehran, but doesn't provoke a wider war.
37:14
Speaker 16: So apparently the Iranians have been talking to a whole
37:16
Speaker 16: bunch of regional countries and leaders are trying to signal
37:20
Speaker 16: to them that they don't want a wider war. So
37:23
Speaker 16: Iran's actually in a pretty weak position right now.
37:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that is heartening in a way in a
37:29
Speaker 3: witch's brew of issues, it's heartening to hear that they're
37:33
Speaker 3: looking at being constrained or restrained.
37:35
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us, Michael.
37:37
Speaker 3: I appreciate Michael Shibridge there from Intelligence Analysis Australia.
37:41
Speaker 2: We're going to get to a break on the other
37:42
Speaker 2: side of that is Wednesday Range. All time I talk about.
37:45
Speaker 3: The police bracing for another day of disorder in the UK. US,
37:49
Speaker 3: we'll get into this US politics again and show you
37:53
Speaker 3: a bit more of Kamala and JD and the new
37:56
Speaker 3: Waltz character. Let us wrangle with Liz and Justin go
38:06
Speaker 3: my news host Liz Storer from the late debate here
38:09
Speaker 3: on the desk with me and in Melbourne as ever
38:11
Speaker 3: Justin Smith, broadcaster, author.
38:13
Speaker 2: And man about town. Whatever that means. I'd just hope
38:19
Speaker 2: it's not defamatory. Now let's talk about let's talk about
38:23
Speaker 2: US politics. And I'm interested to get your thoughts on this, Justin,
38:27
Speaker 2: Why don't we get into it?
38:28
Speaker 3: What I love is a couple of times Kamala Harris
38:30
Speaker 3: has done announcements.
38:31
Speaker 2: They've done these faux phone call things that they film
38:35
Speaker 2: for social media. They are so tweet it's so fake.
38:40
Speaker 2: Have a look at this one.
38:42
Speaker 16: Would you be my running mate and let's get this.
38:44
Speaker 7: Thing on the road.
38:46
Speaker 9: I would be honored, Madam Vice President.
38:50
Speaker 3: Have you ever had a phone call as abusinally inauthentic
38:53
Speaker 3: as that?
38:54
Speaker 2: Justin?
38:56
Speaker 17: I know I don't like those. I really wish they
38:59
Speaker 17: would stop. I've seen them do that a few times
39:01
Speaker 17: and I think it is just a pulling. She's got
39:04
Speaker 17: a great chance at running a really good campaign here,
39:07
Speaker 17: a really strong campaign and getting herself into the White House.
39:11
Speaker 2: I'd love to see it sort of.
39:12
Speaker 17: Done in a very genuine fashion when they're talking about
39:15
Speaker 17: real things that are going to affect their people and
39:18
Speaker 17: what they can fix and how they can attack the
39:21
Speaker 17: other side. And I'd love to see a little bit
39:24
Speaker 17: more of that and a little less of the fake
39:26
Speaker 17: garbage the stage.
39:29
Speaker 3: It's like the old speaker phone thing, you know, It's
39:31
Speaker 3: like people are answering, you answer the phone in the car.
39:34
Speaker 2: Just let you know the kids are in the car.
39:41
Speaker 3: But this is so pathetic, and the thing is Justin's right,
39:45
Speaker 3: let's have a proper debate here. She hasn't done a
39:48
Speaker 3: press conference, she has even done an interview. And now
39:51
Speaker 3: you can get away with that for a long while
39:52
Speaker 3: in America, but at some stage she's going to have
39:54
Speaker 3: to front up right.
39:55
Speaker 18: I think she's waiting for the DNC that'll give her
39:57
Speaker 18: a big boost of popularity while everyone celebrating the new
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Speaker 18: presidential nominee and VP nominee. What's really surprising about this pick, though,
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Speaker 18: is obviously, when it comes to VP picks, you're looking
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Speaker 18: for someone who's a bit of a yin to your yang,
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Speaker 18: and instead what she's picked is just a mirror image
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Speaker 18: of herself and has created a real power couple association,
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Speaker 18: another mirror power couple. These are two people who openly
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Speaker 18: talk about how wonderful socialism is and how it should
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Speaker 18: be interplemented and the ways that we can do that
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Speaker 18: in modern society and help out her everyday man. She's
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Speaker 18: basically picked a fat Bernie Sanders.
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Speaker 19: And this guy doesn't even have ties, he doesn't have
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Speaker 19: any ties to us. When Minnesota has not supported a
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Speaker 19: Republican presidential nominee since Nixon in seventy two, this is
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Speaker 19: a very, very blue state.
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Speaker 7: So I'm scratching my head.
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Speaker 18: Because he just doesn't tick any of the normal boxes
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Speaker 18: that a president looks for in a potential.
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Speaker 17: I'm loving I'm loving the attacks on that camp. I'm
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Speaker 17: loving the attacks that are going on on that side
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Speaker 17: because they some of them are so lame. It sort
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Speaker 17: of shows how much of a threat that Carmala Harris
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Speaker 17: really is to people who've got to dig out the
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Speaker 17: fact that she.
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Speaker 2: Laughs too much.
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Speaker 17: And I knowed a couple of weeks ago, as you
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Speaker 17: mentioned a story. You mentioned a story about how Carmla
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Speaker 17: Harris had an affair with a married man. Anyone with
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Speaker 17: access to Google would be able to find out that
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Speaker 17: Willie Brown had actually been separated from his wife for
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Speaker 17: ten years. He had a relationship with Carmla Harris. So
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Speaker 17: come on, I meaning.
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Speaker 3: That, hang on a second, but justin we don't need
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Speaker 3: to go down that particular rabbit burrow to be able
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Speaker 3: to discuss the fact that Carlala Harris says got no
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Speaker 3: achievements as vice president. In fact, she's a failure and
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Speaker 3: the only job she was given to fix the border
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Speaker 3: crisis that she does laugh at embarrassing moments when she's
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Speaker 3: got nothing to say that She's had nothing to say
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Speaker 3: in terms of press conferences or interviews since since she's
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Speaker 3: been running for the top job again.
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Speaker 2: She never had a disagree.
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Speaker 17: She talked about abotion, abortion, she talked about the banning. Look,
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Speaker 17: she can speak, that can speak up for themselves. But
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Speaker 17: I think you're wrong. I think the attacks on her
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Speaker 17: have been wrong. She talked about the banning of assault weapons,
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Speaker 17: she talked about abortion, giving the rights back to women. There,
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Speaker 17: you can't say that she hasn't been talking about why
42:39
Speaker 17: don't you go off to Trump the same life.
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Speaker 3: What I'm saying is she's not talked sense on anything
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Speaker 3: she doesn't expose herself to interviews in press. Cotton to
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Speaker 3: your interview, hasn't said what you wanted her to that
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Speaker 3: it is made, you won't be able to find an
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Speaker 3: example of her making a decent contribute contribution to the
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Speaker 3: American political debate.
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Speaker 2: Let us know about it. We'll include it in the
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Speaker 2: show next week. In the meantime, if you.
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Speaker 17: Want to talk about I've been doing magnificent things.
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Speaker 3: Well, if you want to talk about here's the point,
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Speaker 3: then you want to talk about their lame attacks on
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Speaker 3: the Democratic ticket, Let's have a look at the Democrat
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Speaker 3: attack on JD.
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Speaker 2: Evans. Here it is, we'll run it for you.
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Speaker 10: And is there more or less unemployment in the country
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Speaker 10: than there was four years ago? Is America has respected
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Speaker 10: throughout the world as it was? Do you feel that
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Speaker 10: our security.
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Speaker 3: Is s c That is the great Ronald Reagan, the
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Speaker 3: voice thereof in a trumpet.
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Speaker 2: I can't show you this grab.
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Speaker 3: I showed it to you the editorial at the top
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Speaker 3: of the program where Waltz just gets up there and
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Speaker 3: says JD. Vance is a wido, and the whole rally
43:57
Speaker 3: chance he's a wido.
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Speaker 2: He's a wido. The hell is I don't like that.
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Speaker 2: I don't like that. It's just nothing, it's just personal abuse, right.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, I don't I don't like that, and that sort
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Speaker 17: of really started. I'm really not trying to push this
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Speaker 17: back onto Trump here because I don't like that. I
44:13
Speaker 17: agree with what you're saying, but Trump has really fired
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Speaker 17: that up with this sort of name calling. And I
44:18
Speaker 17: don't see why someone like Waltz or Harris needs to
44:21
Speaker 17: actually try to out Trump Trump. I agree if they
44:24
Speaker 17: try to, this is what I'm saying, If they try
44:25
Speaker 17: to have a far better debate here, it would be
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Speaker 17: it would be fantastic, so refreshing because there's such an
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Speaker 17: important ally.
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Speaker 2: We will see them get this one you wanted to.
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Speaker 3: But the point is the reason that I got my
44:36
Speaker 3: back up there with justin no doubt with you as well.
44:39
Speaker 3: Is this idea that this criticism of Kamala Harris is unfair.
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Speaker 2: She is legitimately appalling candidate.
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Speaker 3: I mean the Democrats showed that at at the last
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Speaker 3: primary when she had to pull out before she even
44:51
Speaker 3: got to vote.
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Speaker 7: Exactly.
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Speaker 18: She's unpopular in the lay party, She's extremely unpopular in
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Speaker 18: America at large.
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Speaker 7: Look at the polling.
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Speaker 18: She is the most unpopular VET in the history of
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Speaker 18: the United States, Justin and.
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Speaker 2: That is for good.
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Speaker 17: She's got since she's been named as the candidate, and
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Speaker 17: how much money she is raised. I mean, I know
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Speaker 17: she's not home and host and again back say that's.
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Speaker 18: About anti Trump vote. That's all she's got.
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Speaker 7: Going for her.
45:21
Speaker 18: And even if you're a supporter of her, you have
45:25
Speaker 18: to agree she hasn't mounted any proper policies. She's not
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Speaker 18: even going after the Trump campaign's policies.
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Speaker 7: The campaign widows they're the ones doing the name calling.
45:36
Speaker 18: It's the Trump campaign who is rolling out a suite
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Speaker 18: of extremely good, iron clad policies that are appealing to
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Speaker 18: the everyday person on the street, cracking down on all
45:48
Speaker 18: the immigration she presided over over the last four years.
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Speaker 3: We can't spend all the wrangle over US politics all night.
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Speaker 3: I want to get to bring it back the domestic
45:59
Speaker 3: politics and one issue in particular, I'm going to get
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Speaker 3: both your perspectives on this, and this is getting public
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Speaker 3: servants back to work. Justine New South Wales is laying
46:08
Speaker 3: down the edict.
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Speaker 2: It's going to be hard to follow through, but they're
46:10
Speaker 2: saying public.
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Speaker 3: Servants should turn up at the office Victoria says, don't
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Speaker 3: bother come to Victoria and you never have.
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Speaker 2: To go to the office. It's fascinating. Yeah, come here,
46:20
Speaker 2: come here.
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Speaker 17: You can work from home a bit, but when you've
46:23
Speaker 17: got to work from home, you must work from a home.
46:25
Speaker 17: In Victoria, we need you actually here. You can't just
46:28
Speaker 17: work from a home in New South Wales. You will
46:31
Speaker 17: need to come here. But I would say good luck
46:33
Speaker 17: to Chris Men's actually trying to implement this, because he
46:35
Speaker 17: hasn't done it yet. Yes, he's talked tough and he's
46:37
Speaker 17: tried to hand it down, but it hasn't actually happened yet.
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Speaker 17: I think in what we're doing in Victoria, no, it
46:42
Speaker 17: is not perfect. But I don't think that these businesses
46:46
Speaker 17: that are worried about getting people into the office, I
46:48
Speaker 17: don't think they're going to the wall just because people
46:51
Speaker 17: are working from home for a couple of days.
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Speaker 2: Of the week.
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Speaker 17: You know, we're in a bad economy and we're still
46:57
Speaker 17: coming out of COVID here. Most big businesses are to
47:00
Speaker 17: get people back into the office. And think in Victoria
47:04
Speaker 17: is there's no incentive to leave home anyway, right, A
47:07
Speaker 17: temptation to go down to the beach or anything.
47:09
Speaker 18: I always said lockdown was way worse for people living
47:13
Speaker 18: in Cyny because you've got so many reasons one to.
47:16
Speaker 2: Live runing outside anyway. We're just like, you know what,
47:19
Speaker 2: this is back bad.
47:21
Speaker 18: But this whole working from home business and men's ordering
47:25
Speaker 18: everyone back. As far as I'm concerned, the state can
47:27
Speaker 18: get stuffed. They're the ones who locked down millions of
47:31
Speaker 18: healthy people inside their homes. Now people have discovered a
47:36
Speaker 18: better work life balance. They're like, hey, if that gives
47:39
Speaker 18: me two hours back in my day instead of commuting
47:42
Speaker 18: to and from work, if I'm still doing my job
47:44
Speaker 18: and smashing my KPIs, I get to see more of
47:47
Speaker 18: my kids, I get a bit more of a yoga.
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Speaker 7: Session in the morning.
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Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying, just for it.
47:53
Speaker 3: I'm all in the private economy and where that happens,
47:56
Speaker 3: but I'm not all for federal and state public servants
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Speaker 3: who have no productivity anyway.
48:02
Speaker 2: Take it having a lend of all of us. We're
48:05
Speaker 2: working from home, so they're going to be more productive.
48:08
Speaker 2: Won't just keep paid.
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Speaker 7: They get to do nothing.
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Speaker 17: I just want to know, Yeah, God, for God forbid,
48:18
Speaker 17: people in the public payroll get to have a work
48:20
Speaker 17: life balance.
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Speaker 3: For I have had a bit of experience in the
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Speaker 3: public sector and I'm here. I'm here to tell you
48:27
Speaker 3: the work life balance. The thing is is a little
48:31
Speaker 3: favorous life, a little more than work.
48:33
Speaker 2: But we'll get onto that topic another time.
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Speaker 3: If you are working from home as a public servants,
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Speaker 3: thanks for watching tonight.
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Speaker 2: We love many of you. Justin and Liz, thanks very much.
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Speaker 2: We are out of time. In fact, I better hand
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Speaker 2: over to Peter Credline next. I'll see you next week.