Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Payment Apps - TPR's In Focus - Oct. 6, 2026
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- 0:16From Troy Public Radio, this is In Focus,
- 0:20and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson. Payment apps are convenient
- 0:25for consumers, but scammers have found ways
- 0:28to steal the money. Amanda Senn, Director of the
- 0:32Alabama Securities Commission, visits The Exchange to
- 0:36tell us how they operate and the red flags to look
- 0:40for. Amanda,
- 0:44welcome back to Troy Public Radio. Thank you,
- 0:48Carolyn. Always glad to be here. Well, it's always great to have
- 0:52you on The Exchange. So what are your concerns today
- 0:55to share with the listeners? Well, Carolyn, we have received an influx
- 0:59of complaints. One of them involves a payment app
- 1:04and the other one involves electronic invitations.
- 1:08Yeah, these payment app ads are really pushing the convenience
- 1:13of using them. Payment apps can be convenient. It's like having your
- 1:17wallet built into your cell phone. Some of them are
- 1:21in the form of mobile apps. Sometimes you can log into websites. You're familiar
- 1:25with them: Venmo, Cash App, PayPal,
- 1:28Apple. They all offer payment services. And for people
- 1:32who don't carry around a lot of cash, when you owe a friend
- 1:36for grabbing your coffee or splitting
- 1:39costs associated with a shower or a party, it's easy
- 1:43just to use one of these payment apps to provide
- 1:47the reimbursement rather than going to an ATM
- 1:50and pulling out cash or writing a check. So they can be convenient, but they
- 1:54also, like with any form of payment carry
- 1:57some risk. So what are the vulnerabilities?
- 2:01Well, for some of these payment platforms, as with any
- 2:04technology, fraudsters have been exploiting them.
- 2:08Some of our complaints have involved fake payment
- 2:12requests, fake pop-up support messages that
- 2:16come in— or say pop-up if you're online on your computer,
- 2:19via text message if you're on your phone. Some of
- 2:22them have reported that they have received as a
- 2:26user of an app a notification from a user
- 2:31that looks like someone they should know or perhaps has a name
- 2:34very similar to someone they know, and it is asking you to
- 2:38accept a request for a transfer or to initiate
- 2:42a payment. So hackers have been able to manipulate information that
- 2:46seems similar to regular and routine payments. Some have
- 2:50reported impersonation, when somebody impersonates
- 2:54someone you know, or a criminal impersonates someone you know, maybe resembling
- 2:57a friend. And then fake purchase situations.
- 3:01These fraudsters may claim that you've made a purchase. For example,
- 3:05in PayPal, if you thought you were purchasing a new
- 3:10kayak paddle and you wanted to pay for
- 3:13PayPal, since several websites allow you to do that, It might show up in
- 3:18your purchases and you think, well, I never purchased a paddle. But sometimes
- 3:22people in a hurry, and friends have reported, they don't remember those
- 3:26late-night purchases they made. So some of our
- 3:29reports have come in and identified purchases that they didn't actually make
- 3:33or requests for purchases. And these are just fraudsters trying to get access to your
- 3:38hard-earned dollars. So Amanda, when it dawns on a person
- 3:42that, no, I didn't do this, Is it too late to get the
- 3:45money back? Sometimes it is. It depends on how quickly you
- 3:50contact authorities after initiating the payment.
- 3:53So hopefully you'll have recognized a suspicious request
- 3:58or activity. But if you have already clicked on a link or
- 4:02authorized a payment, you can contact the platform.
- 4:06I would contact them immediately because sometimes there are holds or delays
- 4:10in those transactions and they don't clear. So there's some time. Cancel or
- 4:14withdraw. In some cases, the financial service provider
- 4:18will be able to recall the money beyond that window,
- 4:22and it depends on how the hacker or the cybercriminal accessed
- 4:26the platform. Sometimes it's not always the consumer's fault.
- 4:30In other words, they're not the ones that accidentally clicked on it, but it may
- 4:33be a problem with the financial service provider's platform,
- 4:37and they may reimburse you if it's something that they should have been responsible for.
- 4:41But most of the time these things happen because of a consumer
- 4:45or user error. And again, there's a possibility
- 4:48you can restore the funds to your account or recall information.
- 4:53But in many of our cases, the money is gone and it's too late to
- 4:56retrieve the funds. You have to be vigilant. It's like the clock
- 5:00is ticking. What are some red flags so that you don't
- 5:04do this? Always check for suspicious requests.
- 5:07Or activity. If you open your Venmo account or PayPal
- 5:11account and see a request for payment or a fund retrieval,
- 5:16whether it's somebody sending you a request or you initiating one,
- 5:19always be sure that you know the recipient. And if the request is coming to
- 5:23you, you can pick up the phone and call your friend or family member and
- 5:27ask directly, say, hey, did you send me that payment request?
- 5:30And just verify their username because they don't always match.
- 5:34Some fraudsters will use a play on someone's name or
- 5:38their email address, so just confirm that that's the actual sender.
- 5:41You want to make sure again the username matches the person.
- 5:44Is someone pressuring you to act immediately? If there is a payment
- 5:49request sitting out there, are you also receiving a text message about it?
- 5:52That would be unusual. Or is the request coming
- 5:56in from an email, which would be unusual? If they are
- 6:00asking you to provide a separate release or
- 6:04a verification, these are all activities that are not typically
- 6:09conducted in a payment app. So there would be things that
- 6:13are a little out of the ordinary, except fraudsters are getting so sophisticated
- 6:17with new tools. I would encourage everyone, if they're not expecting it,
- 6:21or even if they are, pick up the phone to verify, especially if it's peer-to-peer
- 6:25and not through a business. So speaking about electronics,
- 6:29what about the electronic forms of invitations?
- 6:32Should we be aware of some problems there?
- 6:36Yes, Carolyn, this is the first we've seen of these electronic
- 6:40or evite scams. I received one in my inbox
- 6:44and it was from a person who was a friend and I recognized the
- 6:48name and it appeared to be from this person's legitimate email address,
- 6:51but upon further inspection, I realized that it
- 6:54was a fraudulent, malicious phishing email that
- 6:59had come through. Some companies have already put warnings out on their website.
- 7:03Evite did, and some of the others have begun taking
- 7:07down the images. For example, when I went back through
- 7:11my email to review it 2 weeks later— I didn't open it though— I noticed
- 7:16that it had— the company had replaced the fraudulent
- 7:19attachment with a warning sign. So they must have internally fixed
- 7:24the problem with that platform, but right now
- 7:28exercise caution when receiving eVites because we've seen
- 7:31several reports come in about these fraudulent emails recently, and we wouldn't want
- 7:35anybody to click on a malicious link and open a virus on
- 7:39their phone or computer. You have told us before
- 7:42that when you're getting a communication, hover your mouse
- 7:46over that person or entity and
- 7:50see if it's really who you think it is. If you're
- 7:53operating on your computer, you can right-click on the email address
- 7:58and expand it, hover over URLs to expand them,
- 8:01and there are certain properties you can view. It's much easier on your computer.
- 8:06On your cell phone, you can do that as well. It's a little more tricky,
- 8:09but check your emails on your computer and you can expand those
- 8:13fields to see very clearly whether it's from an email address that you recognize
- 8:17or a fraudster fabricating an email just to trick
- 8:20you into clicking on it. So finally, Amanda, can your listeners go
- 8:24to the Alabama Securities Commission website and
- 8:28learn more about these tricks? Yes,
- 8:31Carolyn, we have a scam alert on our homepage and it's
- 8:36asc.alabama.gov, or you can type in just Alabama Securities
- 8:40Commission and it'll pull up our website. You can click on the scam
- 8:43alert link and we include all the information about the scams that
- 8:47we're seeing and new scams. Thank you for the alerts to your
- 8:51listeners so that they won't become victims of the latest
- 8:55scam. Thank you always for promoting awareness of these scams.
- 8:59We want to keep our Alabama dollars in state. And thanks to
- 9:02the ASC for helping us do that. That's right. We're always here
- 9:06for our public. Joining us on The Exchange was Amanda Senn,
- 9:10Director of the Alabama Securities Commission.
- 9:14More information about scams related to payment apps can be
- 9:18found at the asc.alabama.gov website,
- 9:23and the ASC phone number is 1-800-222-1253.
- 9:31Thanks for joining us today for In Focus, which is
- 9:34a podcast wherever you get your podcasts, and feel
- 9:38free to get in touch at infocus@troy.edu.
- 9:43I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is listener-supported Troy
- 9:48Public Radio.